Dear Ash et All :On the Creation of Universe and Cosmology as applicable to

September 13, 2007

Resp. Ashji,

more over current antra of rahu samdhari to venus and mars.

mars have more points for 12th compared to 11th.

venus has 20 for 11th and 17 for 12th.

rahu in 9th house triggers 12th and 4th house.

so mars points in ws and rahu's position points to more expenditure in

current antra.

moreover antras of mars,saturn,moon,mercury and sun have less points

in worsheet for 11th house compared to 12th.

only jupiter and venus have a just little more points in 11th compared

to 12th.

plus the sav in 12th is more than 11th.

dont we take mean of sav from sun,moon and lagna ?

anything wrong in my thinking?

thanks/regards

harjeet

, " Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Amit,

>

> With this data u have given,

>

> 19th May 1986

>

> 12:10 PM

>

> New Delhi

Planet

>

> Degrees

>

> As

>

> 5 Le 38

>

> Su

>

> 5 Ta 14

>

> Mo

>

> 2 Vi 38

>

> Ma

>

> 27 Sg 51

>

> Me

>

> 0 Ta 39

>

> Ju

>

> 25 Aq 40

>

> Ve

>

> 4 Ge 28

>

> SaR

>

> 14 Sc 17

>

> Ra

>

> 5 Ar 44

>

> Ke

>

> 5 Li 44

>

House

>

> 1

>

> 2

>

> 3

>

> 4

>

> 5

>

> 6

>

> 7

>

> 8

>

> 9

>

> 10

>

> 11

>

> 12

>

> Sun

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!T

> 7#BAV!T7>

>

> 10

>

> 3

>

> 3

>

> 4

>

> 5

>

> 5

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 3

>

> 1

>

> 4

>

> 6

>

> 6

>

> 48

>

> Moon

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!A

> J7#BAV!AJ7>

>

> 2

>

> 4

>

> 6

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 6

>

> 5

>

> 3

>

> 4

>

> 2

>

> 3

>

> 49

>

> Mars

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!D

> 34#BAV!D34>

>

> 5

>

> 2

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 2

>

> 4

>

> 3

>

> 3

>

> 1

>

> 3

>

> 3

>

> 6

>

> 39

>

> Mercury

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!T

> 34#BAV!T34>

>

> 10

>

> 4

>

> 7

>

> 5

>

> 2

>

> 4

>

> 6

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 3

>

> 5

>

> 6

>

> 54

>

> Jupiter

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!A

> J34#BAV!AJ34>

>

> 7

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 5

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 6

>

> 5

>

> 7

>

> 4

>

> 5

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 56

>

> Venus

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!G

> 61#BAV!G61>

>

> 11

>

> 5

>

> 6

>

> 6

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 3

>

> 5

>

> 5

>

> 2

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 52

>

> Saturn

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!T

> 61#BAV!T61>

>

> 4

>

> 2

>

> 2

>

> 3

>

> 5

>

> 3

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 3

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 3

>

> 2

>

> 39

>

> Totals

>

> 24

>

> 32

>

> 31

>

> 28

>

> 26

>

> 32

>

> 29

>

> 30

>

> 22

>

> 25

>

> 27

>

> 31

>

> 337

>

> The points in 12th are more than 11th.

>

> In any case, let it be.

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

> On Behalf Of planck12

> Wednesday September 12, 2007 7:58 PM

>

> Re: Dear Ash et All :On the

Creation of

> Universe and Cosmology as applicable to

>

> Dear Ash,

> Yes, I completely concur and thats all I wanted to clarify from my

> end. Again before I leave I have another chart if anyone wants to use

> from educational stand point.

>

> 19 May 1986

> 12:10pm

> new delhi.

>

> Again i decided to relate the 11/12th house points, in this chart

> again the worksheet decided to give more points in 11th house than

> 12th. But the girl has no savings, he is quite spendrift and have

> numerous expenses as compared to her income.

>

> Also to double check other things, i decided to check other factors,

> her brillancy for that matter. I think she has two parts in saturn

> degrees as shown with the work sheet. But she is not very intelligent,

> again a decent girl who is quite jovial, but she has done a

> certificate course and works in a local bank. As I understand it from

> the notes if one part is in saturn then person has odinary

> intelligence and if two he/she has good intelligence. In her case she

> is normal like anyone else who has no part in saturns division.

>

> Feel free to check, incase there are other things required, as is

> always the case in terms of details.

>

> 1. The girl is unmarried

> 2. Wheatish complexion

> 3. works in a bank as teller

> 4. From a middle class family

> 5. Has good morals, but tends to be energetic and hyper at times

>

> regards

> Nicked Vish (Amit) I prefer Vish

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Amit / Vishy (?),

> >

> > Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and All the more reason we

> should

> > get back to KAS :-)

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of

> astroquery12

> > Wednesday September 12, 2007 7:11 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Dear Ash et All :On the

Creation of

> > Universe and Cosmology as applicable to Astr

> >

> > Hi,

> > Hope you are doing well. This is Amit again, had posted under a

> > different name prior but that account did not seem to work and had to

> > create a new id.

> >

> > I have been following the lessons for a while and again I see many

> > in-consistencies with the system. My intention is not to refute or

> > accept the system but purely to learn it and see it practicality and

> > in the process provide my thoughts in opinions (after all the

> > astrology forum is a free form for discussion). Some of my doubts have

> > cropped up again with the usual, 11th house points vs 12th house

> > points and the actual condition of the charts (again this is only

> > treating the chart with KAS)as opposed to mixing parashra or k.p etc.

> >

> > On another note, perhaps I can take the liberty to explain again on

> > why this happens and hopefully you concur with my points and facts.

> > After all astrology will make more meaning if we understand it from

> > all angles. You are a computer scientist (a man of science) yourself

> > and perhaps this description will make sense and will take a purely

> > scientific approach to it:

> >

> > I am sure you are familiar at least on the basic level with Einstein's

> > relativity and the other theory called Quantum Mechanics. During the

> > creation of the universe at the point of big bang it is widely

> > believed that there were four fundamental forces in the universe:

> > Gravity, electromagnetic, weak nuclear and strong nuclear. It is also

> > now very well accepted that relativity explains Gravity very elegantly

> > and that the theory has been tested to the point of calculations

> > pertaning to perhilion of mercury (closest pass to the sun) with

> > accuracy. On the other hand Quantum mechanics has done well in

> > unifying the other three forces of the electromagnetic and nuclear

> > nature. BUT a BIG TWIST comes into the picture.

> >

> > Realivity claims that events (spacetime continum is 4D) are all

> > associated together and there is no concept of past and future or

> > present and in simple terms the destiney is already written and

> > nothing can change it, so given the right set of laws one can predict

> > the course of life and the cosmos (relativistic conditions on

> > cosmology)to a complete accurate picture based on fundametal field

> > equations of einstein. Again Einstein spent much of his life finding a

> > Unified theory that would unify electromagnetics with gravity BUT

> FAILED.

> >

> > On the other hand QUANTUM MECHANICS claims that nothing in life is

> > predictable infact everything is a probability. And QM explains atoms

> > etc the world of sub atomic very well (this would include the brain)

> > the body etc, after all brain is essential a complex neural network

> > working on neurotransmitters signals which are electrical in nature.

> > So it is quite justified that QM is applicable to us as well since we

> > are made of atoms, eletrons etc. But the problem you run into with QM

> > is that nothing is certain and that everything is described as a

> > probablity wave function of something called the scrhorodingers

> > equation. I would want you to refer to the thought experiment termed

> > " Schroender's Cat " which is hard for me to explain on this fourm but I

> > am sure you will take the initiative of reading it, in short every

> > observation made my an reference observer will change the course of

> > this obervation directly or indirectly depending on the observation

> > being made. Simply put, there is too much random ness existent in this

> > universe to be able to describe anything in any accruancy, especially

> > when it comes to life or the atomic scale.

> >

> > Now applying the above theories to describe astrology, many of the

> > General predictions we make about the past or even the future at times

> > happen to come true, yet there are many more predictions we made that

> > do not come true at all. Because we are juggling between certainity

> > and chaos and that is not the fault or positive aspect of anyone

> > astrological system but rather the law of nature (God if you may call

> > it). You have claimed in your past emails that KAS is very accurate

> > however on my sincere application of these principles I have found it

> > smiliar to any other system because the rate of predicition does not

> > change much as compared to prashara or k.p or jaimini for that

matter.

> >

> > It is however a different story if we only look at the positive aspect

> > and not realise the shortcomings of any system. My approach is to look

> > at the short comings of this system simply because it might help

> > improve the system in some other way (again thats not job). My sole

> > intention for this posting has been to again reiterate on a scientific

> > ground the limitations of astrology and that of human mind and that no

> > matter how hard we try we will be bound by many contraints. You might

> > claim that KAS predictions have come true, but I have applied basic

> > principles of many charts some of which have yielded results but again

> > some of them have not yielded the correct results (this I see with an

> > open mind) leading me to believe and again affirm with the view that

> > astrology has limitations on what can be predicted. Any when we are

> > bound by such limitations then ethically we should take a more

> > cautious approach in predicting in the first place and perhaps a more

> > understanding, less materialistic (making money out of astrology)

> > attitude in researching things. This would also involve being open to

> > genuine thoughts weather pro or against any system in the betterment

> > of knowledge.

> >

> > To end it Einstein once said " God does not play dice with the

> > Universe " on seeing Quatum Mechanics back in the 30s he was

> > diasspointed with QM because he felt there was no free will and that

> > there was no such thing as probablity. A famous Quautum Theorist (I

> > will let you figure out who) responded by saying " Not only does God

> > play dice with Us, He also puts it in places where we cannot find

it " .

> >

> > I hope you see this message not as a threat to your system but

> > rather as an open ended question to ponder on keeping aside

> > ego,predjuice or any other negative emotions.

> >

> > regards and Best

> > Amit

> >

>

September 13, 2007

Dear Harjeet,

J

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi

Thursday September 13, 2007

11:19 AM

Subject:

Re: Dear Ash et All :On the Creation of Universe and

Cosmology as applicable to

Resp. Ashji,

more over current antra of rahu samdhari to venus and mars.

mars have more points for 12th compared to 11th.

venus has 20 for 11th and 17 for 12th.

rahu in 9th house triggers 12th and 4th house.

so mars points in ws and rahu's position points to more expenditure in

current antra.

moreover antras of mars,saturn,moon,mercury and sun have less points

in worsheet for 11th house compared to 12th.

only jupiter and venus have a just little more points in 11th compared

to 12th.

plus the sav in 12th is more than 11th.

dont we take mean of sav from sun,moon and lagna ?

anything wrong in my thinking?

thanks/regards

harjeet

,

" Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Amit,

>

> With this data u have given,

>

> 19th May 1986

>

> 12:10 PM

>

> New Delhi

>

> Planet

>

> Degrees

>

> As

>

> 5 Le 38

>

> Su

>

> 5 Ta 14

>

> Mo

>

> 2 Vi 38

>

> Ma

>

> 27 Sg 51

>

> Me

>

> 0 Ta 39

>

> Ju

>

> 25 Aq 40

>

> Ve

>

> 4 Ge 28

>

> SaR

>

> 14 Sc 17

>

> Ra

>

> 5 Ar 44

>

> Ke

>

> 5 Li 44

>

> House

>

> 1

>

> 2

>

> 3

>

> 4

>

> 5

>

> 6

>

> 7

>

> 8

>

> 9

>

> 10

>

> 11

>

> 12

>

> Sun

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!T

> 7#BAV!T7>

>

> 10

>

> 3

>

> 3

>

> 4

>

> 5

>

> 5

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 3

>

> 1

>

> 4

>

> 6

>

> 6

>

> 48

>

> Moon

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!A

> J7#BAV!AJ7>

>

> 2

>

> 4

>

> 6

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 6

>

> 5

>

> 3

>

> 4

>

> 2

>

> 3

>

> 49

>

> Mars

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!D

> 34#BAV!D34>

>

> 5

>

> 2

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 2

>

> 4

>

> 3

>

> 3

>

> 1

>

> 3

>

> 3

>

> 6

>

> 39

>

> Mercury

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!T

> 34#BAV!T34>

>

> 10

>

> 4

>

> 7

>

> 5

>

> 2

>

> 4

>

> 6

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 3

>

> 5

>

> 6

>

> 54

>

> Jupiter

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!A

> J34#BAV!AJ34>

>

> 7

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 5

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 6

>

> 5

>

> 7

>

> 4

>

> 5

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 56

>

> Venus

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!G

> 61#BAV!G61>

>

> 11

>

> 5

>

> 6

>

> 6

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 3

>

> 5

>

> 5

>

> 2

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 52

>

> Saturn

>

<file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\ENagawkar\Desktop\KASMaster.xls#BAV!T

> 61#BAV!T61>

>

> 4

>

> 2

>

> 2

>

> 3

>

> 5

>

> 3

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 3

>

> 4

>

> 4

>

> 3

>

> 2

>

> 39

>

> Totals

>

> 24

>

> 32

>

> 31

>

> 28

>

> 26

>

> 32

>

> 29

>

> 30

>

> 22

>

> 25

>

> 27

>

> 31

>

> 337

>

> The points in 12th are more than 11th.

>

> In any case, let it be.

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of planck12