Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 NAMASTE Dear Guruji Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my wife and daughter since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce proceeding status. because of many problems between my wife and her controling parents who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for divorce becase of bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of weeks going by, i wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our marriage and she too wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now her parents are totally against her coming back and saving our marriage. my wife does not want to go aginst her parents and come back to me so she says thats it better to divorce and not work anything else. i have tried hard to convince her but nothing. we have been married for 5 years, on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september 8, 2006. i have been told by many astrologer that neither have divorce or 2nd marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and will my marriage survive this current divorce status and me and my wfie getting back together. please advice as i need all the advice and help i can get to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen as to my marriage- divorce or us reuniting???? thank you God bless amir amir patel biodata- february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india bijal patel biodata october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dear Amir, Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in the month of Feb/2008. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishraphillyanyone <phillyanyone wrote: NAMASTEDear GurujiMr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my wife and daughter since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce proceeding status. because of many problems between my wife and her controling parents who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for divorce becase of bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of weeks going by, i wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our marriage and she too wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now her parents are totally against her coming back and saving our marriage. my wife does not want to go aginst her parents and come back to me so she says thats it better to divorce and not work anything else. i have tried hard to convince her but nothing. we have been married for 5 years, on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september 8, 2006. i have been told by many astrologer that neither have divorce or 2nd marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and will my marriage survive this current divorce status and me and my wfie getting back together. please advice as i need all the advice and help i can get to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen as to my marriage-divorce or us reuniting???? thank youGod blessamiramir patelbiodata-february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, indiabijal patelbiodataoctober 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dear Ramesh, namaste iam not confused as you have told me in last email that there is No divorce nor or future. iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for consults and you have beening gicing me predictions. so are you now saying that we will divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur there will not be any chances of reunion since i cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she reunite with me after it ?? thank you amirramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Amir, Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in the month of Feb/2008. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishraphillyanyone <phillyanyone > wrote: NAMASTEDear GurujiMr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my wife and daughter since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce proceeding status. because of many problems between my wife and her controling parents who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for divorce becase of bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of weeks going by, i wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our marriage and she too wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now her parents are totally against her coming back and saving our marriage. my wife does not want to go aginst her parents and come back to me so she says thats it better to divorce and not work anything else. i have tried hard to convince her but nothing. we have been married for 5 years, on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september 8, 2006. i have been told by many astrologer that neither have divorce or 2nd marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and will my marriage survive this current divorce status and me and my wfie getting back together. please advice as i need all the advice and help i can get to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen as to my marriage-divorce or us reuniting???? thank youGod blessamiramir patelbiodata-february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, indiabijal patelbiodataoctober 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dear Amir, How confident are you of your wife’s birth time? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of jay shanders Tuesday September 18, 2007 8:01 AM Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Ramesh, namaste iam not confused as you have told me in last email that there is No divorce nor or future. iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for consults and you have beening gicing me predictions. so are you now saying that we will divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur there will not be any chances of reunion since i cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she reunite with me after it ?? thank you amir ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Amir, Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in the month of Feb/2008. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra phillyanyone <phillyanyone > wrote: NAMASTE Dear Guruji Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my wife and daughter since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce proceeding status. because of many problems between my wife and her controling parents who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for divorce becase of bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of weeks going by, i wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our marriage and she too wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now her parents are totally against her coming back and saving our marriage. my wife does not want to go aginst her parents and come back to me so she says thats it better to divorce and not work anything else. i have tried hard to convince her but nothing. we have been married for 5 years, on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september 8, 2006. i have been told by many astrologer that neither have divorce or 2nd marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and will my marriage survive this current divorce status and me and my wfie getting back together. please advice as i need all the advice and help i can get to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen as to my marriage- divorce or us reuniting???? thank you God bless amir amir patel biodata- february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india bijal patel biodata october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dear Amir, Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all your answers. I had asked you before also the correctness of birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same data. Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts will be useless. This I have already pointed you out.I think now you understand it. Ramesh Mishra --- jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > namaste > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > that there is No divorce nor or future. > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > consults and you have beening gicing me > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > reunite with me after it ?? > thank you > amir > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Amir, > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > the month of Feb/2008. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone wrote: > NAMASTE > Dear Guruji > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > wife and daughter > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > proceeding status. > because of many problems between my wife and her > controling parents > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > divorce becase of > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > weeks going by, i > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > marriage and she too > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > her parents are > totally against her coming back and saving our > marriage. my wife does > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > me so she says > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > else. i have tried > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > married for 5 years, > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > 8, 2006. i have > been told by many astrologer that neither have > divorce or 2nd > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > will my marriage > survive this current divorce status and me and my > wfie getting back > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > help i can get > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > as to my marriage- > divorce or us reuniting???? > thank you > God bless > amir > > amir patel > biodata- > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > bijal patel > biodata > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dear Mr. ramesh how are you?/ thank you so much for your reply as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and prediction as to my current divorce proceeding my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting marriage ?? please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? thank you amirramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Amir,Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find allyour answers.I had asked you before also the correctness ofbirthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you samedata.Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all effortswill be useless.This I have already pointed you out.I think now youunderstand it.Ramesh Mishra--- jay shanders <phillyanyone > wrote:> Dear Ramesh,> namaste> iam not confused as you have told me in last email> that there is No divorce nor or future.> iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> consults and you have beening gicing me > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> there will not be any chances of reunion since i> cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> reunite with me after it ??> thank you> amir> > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Dear Amir,> Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> the month of Feb/2008.> Thanks and regards.> Ramesh Mishra> > phillyanyone <phillyanyone > wrote:> NAMASTE> Dear Guruji> Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> wife and daughter > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> proceeding status. > because of many problems between my wife and her> controling parents > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> divorce becase of > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> weeks going by, i > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> marriage and she too > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> her parents are > totally against her coming back and saving our> marriage. my wife does > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> me so she says > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> else. i have tried > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> married for 5 years, > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> 8, 2006. i have > been told by many astrologer that neither have> divorce or 2nd > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> will my marriage > survive this current divorce status and me and my> wfie getting back > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> help i can get > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> as to my marriage-> divorce or us reuniting???? > thank you> God bless> amir> > amir patel> biodata-> february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india> > bijal patel> biodata> october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you> sell. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 NAMASTE Dear Ash thank you so much for your reply well, my wife had told me that her birth time is 8:30 AM but according to a copy of her indian birth registry it has 9:36 AM so i honelst dont know which one is accurate. can you use both and see what you get. i would be so gratful if you can tell me anything as to our marriage. i know my birthtime is accurate and i have been told that i have No divorce or 2nd marriage in my charts but i also was told same for my wife too so i dont know what will happen in reality as to ud and the current divorce proceeding. if there is no divorce does that mena that in reality we will not be diroce no matter what, that divorce can only go through if its in the birth charts?? iam just tyring to get accurate prediction as to what will really happen. is there 2nd marriage for either of us?? any advice would be greatly appreciated thank you amirAsh <kas wrote: Dear Amir, How confident are you of your wife’s birth time? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of jay shandersTuesday September 18, 2007 8:01 AM Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Ramesh, namaste iam not confused as you have told me in last email that there is No divorce nor or future. iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for consults and you have beening gicing me predictions. so are you now saying that we will divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur there will not be any chances of reunion since i cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she reunite with me after it ?? thank you amirramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Amir, Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in the month of Feb/2008. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishraphillyanyone <phillyanyone > wrote: NAMASTEDear GurujiMr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my wife and daughter since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce proceeding status. because of many problems between my wife and her controling parents who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for divorce becase of bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of weeks going by, i wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our marriage and she too wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now her parents are totally against her coming back and saving our marriage. my wife does not want to go aginst her parents and come back to me so she says thats it better to divorce and not work anything else. i have tried hard to convince her but nothing. we have been married for 5 years, on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september 8, 2006. i have been told by many astrologer that neither have divorce or 2nd marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and will my marriage survive this current divorce status and me and my wfie getting back together. please advice as i need all the advice and help i can get to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen as to my marriage-divorce or us reuniting???? thank youGod blessamiramir patelbiodata-february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, indiabijal patelbiodataoctober 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dear mr. Ramesh i just wanted to clearify this, so are you saying that we will be divorced with likely chances of reunion in feb or we will not get divorced but stay separated with chances of reunion then as i dont think my divorce proceeding will last til feb as its been 6 months so my wife can sign the papers at her will within the next couple of months so please clearlify?? thank you amirramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Amir, Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in the month of Feb/2008. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishraphillyanyone <phillyanyone > wrote: NAMASTEDear GurujiMr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my wife and daughter since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce proceeding status. because of many problems between my wife and her controling parents who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for divorce becase of bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of weeks going by, i wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our marriage and she too wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now her parents are totally against her coming back and saving our marriage. my wife does not want to go aginst her parents and come back to me so she says thats it better to divorce and not work anything else. i have tried hard to convince her but nothing. we have been married for 5 years, on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september 8, 2006. i have been told by many astrologer that neither have divorce or 2nd marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and will my marriage survive this current divorce status and me and my wfie getting back together. please advice as i need all the advice and help i can get to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen as to my marriage-divorce or us reuniting???? thank youGod blessamiramir patelbiodata-february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, indiabijal patelbiodataoctober 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dear Amir, i am just learning KAS... taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. Ashji please guide on this one.. i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to 2006 apr. also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. sun in 7th house. moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause you to take hasty steps. cant go more as out of time.. try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. thanks/regards harjeet , jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote: > > Dear Mr. ramesh > how are you?/ > thank you so much for your reply > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting marriage ?? > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > thank you > amir > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Amir, > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > your answers. > I had asked you before also the correctness of > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > data. > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > will be useless. > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > understand it. > Ramesh Mishra > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > namaste > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > reunite with me after it ?? > > thank you > > amir > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Amir, > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > the month of Feb/2008. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone wrote: > > NAMASTE > > Dear Guruji > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > wife and daughter > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > proceeding status. > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > controling parents > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > divorce becase of > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > weeks going by, i > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > marriage and she too > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > her parents are > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > marriage. my wife does > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > me so she says > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > else. i have tried > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > married for 5 years, > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > 8, 2006. i have > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > divorce or 2nd > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > will my marriage > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > wfie getting back > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > help i can get > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > as to my marriage- > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > thank you > > God bless > > amir > > > > amir patel > > biodata- > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > > > bijal patel > > biodata > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > > sell. > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > > > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Dear Harjeet and All, Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the points are less in 7th house so results are showing. Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. So here results are more severe. Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects of 6th lord. So only Moon is good for timing and quality. From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and 2:12. Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve. Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can’t give full happiness. After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start afresh for the child. The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. Otherwise it’s very difficult. On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman’s wife’s chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even in the ball park. I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he questioned the authenticity of birth time. Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Amir, i am just learning KAS... taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. Ashji please guide on this one.. i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to 2006 apr. also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. sun in 7th house. moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause you to take hasty steps. cant go more as out of time.. try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. thanks/regards harjeet , jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote: > > Dear Mr. ramesh > how are you?/ > thank you so much for your reply > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting marriage ?? > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > thank you > amir > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Amir, > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > your answers. > I had asked you before also the correctness of > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > data. > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > will be useless. > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > understand it. > Ramesh Mishra > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > namaste > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > reunite with me after it ?? > > thank you > > amir > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Amir, > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > the month of Feb/2008. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone wrote: > > NAMASTE > > Dear Guruji > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > wife and daughter > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > proceeding status. > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > controling parents > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > divorce becase of > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > weeks going by, i > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > marriage and she too > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > her parents are > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > marriage. my wife does > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > me so she says > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > else. i have tried > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > married for 5 years, > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > 8, 2006. i have > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > divorce or 2nd > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > will my marriage > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > wfie getting back > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > help i can get > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > as to my marriage- > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > thank you > > God bless > > amir > > > > amir patel > > biodata- > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > > > bijal patel > > biodata > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth. And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Ash Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM RE: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Harjeet and All, Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the points are less in 7th house so results are showing. Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. So here results are more severe. Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects of 6th lord. So only Moon is good for timing and quality. From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and 2:12. Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve. Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can’t give full happiness. After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start afresh for the child. The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. Otherwise it’s very difficult. On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman’s wife’s chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even in the ball park. I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he questioned the authenticity of birth time. Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Amir, i am just learning KAS... taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. Ashji please guide on this one.. i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to 2006 apr. also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. sun in 7th house. moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause you to take hasty steps. cant go more as out of time.. try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. thanks/regards harjeet , jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote: > > Dear Mr. ramesh > how are you?/ > thank you so much for your reply > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting marriage ?? > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > thank you > amir > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Amir, > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > your answers. > I had asked you before also the correctness of > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > data. > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > will be useless. > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > understand it. > Ramesh Mishra > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > namaste > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > reunite with me after it ?? > > thank you > > amir > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Amir, > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > the month of Feb/2008. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone wrote: > > NAMASTE > > Dear Guruji > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > wife and daughter > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > proceeding status. > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > controling parents > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > divorce becase of > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > weeks going by, i > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > marriage and she too > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > her parents are > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > marriage. my wife does > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > me so she says > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > else. i have tried > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > married for 5 years, > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > 8, 2006. i have > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > divorce or 2nd > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > will my marriage > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > wfie getting back > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > help i can get > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > as to my marriage- > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > thank you > > God bless > > amir > > > > amir patel > > biodata- > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > > > bijal patel > > biodata > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in respect of his spouse are followings. 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined delay caused by Sa and Ju both. This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara who is SD to Mo. Ma is also 6th lord. 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. 3.There is no blessings in the chart. 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in navamsa. This may indicate the separation and then divorce. But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This is not present in her husband chart. I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her husband chart. This may be due to wrong birth time. When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except navamsa. You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraAsh <kas wrote: Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth. And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of AshTuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: RE: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Harjeet and All, Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the points are less in 7th house so results are showing. Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. So here results are more severe. Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects of 6th lord. So only Moon is good for timing and quality. From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and 2:12. Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve. Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can’t give full happiness. After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start afresh for the child. The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. Otherwise it’s very difficult. On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman’s wife’s chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even in the ball park. I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he questioned the authenticity of birth time. Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshiTuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Amir,i am just learning KAS...taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahusamdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dontwish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is alsosamdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.Ashji please guide on this one..i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdharito 6th lord saturn gave marriage.also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to2006 apr.also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswellas 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.sun in 7th house.moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might causeyou to take hasty steps.cant go more as out of time..try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective ofbirth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspectsher mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strongattraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor.thanks/regardsharjeet , jay shanders<phillyanyone wrote:>> Dear Mr. ramesh> how are you?/> thank you so much for your reply> as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to giveyou a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice andprediction as to my current divorce proceeding> my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy ofher indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestlydont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. canyou use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM youhave said that there is no divorce now or future, does that stillhold. i just want to know that even though iam going through thedivorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and usdivorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time isaccurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? ijust want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lastingmarriage ??> > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a personsave his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so muchabout. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated??> thank you> amir> > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> Dear Amir,> Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> your answers.> I had asked you before also the correctness of> birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> data.> Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts> will be useless.> This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> understand it.> Ramesh Mishra> > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote:> > > Dear Ramesh,> > namaste> > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > consults and you have beening gicing me > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > reunite with me after it ??> > thank you> > amir> > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> > Dear Amir,> > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > the month of Feb/2008.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone wrote:> > NAMASTE> > Dear Guruji> > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > wife and daughter > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > proceeding status. > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > controling parents > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > divorce becase of > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > weeks going by, i > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > marriage and she too > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > her parents are > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > marriage. my wife does > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > me so she says > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > else. i have tried > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > married for 5 years, > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > 8, 2006. i have > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > divorce or 2nd > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > will my marriage > > survive this current divorce status and me and my> > wfie getting back > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > help i can get > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > as to my marriage-> > divorce or us reuniting???? > > thank you> > God bless> > amir> > > > amir patel> > biodata-> > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india> > > > bijal patel> > biodata> > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ramesh, I am gettind Asc 6Sc38. Your explaination so nice. But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned. Regards Anup ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in respect of his spouse are followings. 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined delay caused by Sa and Ju both. This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara who is SD to Mo. Ma is also 6th lord. 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. 3.There is no blessings in the chart. 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in navamsa. This may indicate the separation and then divorce. But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This is not present in her husband chart. I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her husband chart. This may be due to wrong birth time. When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except navamsa. You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraAsh <kas wrote: Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth. And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of AshTuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PMTo: Subject: RE: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Harjeet and All, Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the points are less in 7th house so results are showing. Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. So here results are more severe. Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects of 6th lord. So only Moon is good for timing and quality. From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and 2:12. Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve. Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can’t give full happiness. After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start afresh for the child. The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. Otherwise it’s very difficult. On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman’s wife’s chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even in the ball park. I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he questioned the authenticity of birth time. Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshiTuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Amir,i am just learning KAS...taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahusamdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dontwish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is alsosamdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.Ashji please guide on this one..i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdharito 6th lord saturn gave marriage.also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to2006 apr.also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswellas 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.sun in 7th house.moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might causeyou to take hasty steps.cant go more as out of time..try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective ofbirth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspectsher mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strongattraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor.thanks/regardsharjeet , jay shanders<phillyanyone wrote:>> Dear Mr. ramesh> how are you?/> thank you so much for your reply> as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to giveyou a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice andprediction as to my current divorce proceeding> my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy ofher indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestlydont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. canyou use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM youhave said that there is no divorce now or future, does that stillhold. i just want to know that even though iam going through thedivorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and usdivorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time isaccurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? ijust want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lastingmarriage ??> > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a personsave his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so muchabout. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated??> thank you> amir> > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> Dear Amir,> Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> your answers.> I had asked you before also the correctness of> birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> data.> Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts> will be useless.> This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> understand it.> Ramesh Mishra> > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote:> > > Dear Ramesh,> > namaste> > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > consults and you have beening gicing me > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > reunite with me after it ??> > thank you> > amir> > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> > Dear Amir,> > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > the month of Feb/2008.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone wrote:> > NAMASTE> > Dear Guruji> > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > wife and daughter > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > proceeding status. > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > controling parents > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > divorce becase of > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > weeks going by, i > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > marriage and she too > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > her parents are > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > marriage. my wife does > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > me so she says > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > else. i have tried > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > married for 5 years, > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > 8, 2006. i have > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > divorce or 2nd > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > will my marriage > > survive this current divorce status and me and my> > wfie getting back > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > help i can get > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > as to my marriage-> > divorce or us reuniting???? > > thank you> > God bless> > amir> > > > amir patel> > biodata-> > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india> > > > bijal patel> > biodata> > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 NAMASTE Dear fellow member, thank you so much for taking the time to analyze my and my wifes charts as i honeslty dont know which birth time 8:30 AM or 9:36 AM is accurate for my wife but my birth time of 7:15 PM is accurate so what would be the over all outcome as to my current divorce situation- will the divorce go though and us divorceed with my chancea or reuniting afterwards ????? any 2nd marriage for either ?? or will the divorce not happen and us reuntiing and staying married?? i just want to know what to really expect as to my current divorce proceedings?? since my birth time is accurate then all my events in life will fall into place right?? what can i expect as to my life events as to now and the future in terms of marriage ??? i would appreciate all advice possible. GOD bless amir"Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote: Dear Ramesh, I am gettind Asc 6Sc38. Your explaination so nice. But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned. Regards Anup ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in respect of his spouse are followings. 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined delay caused by Sa and Ju both. This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara who is SD to Mo. Ma is also 6th lord. 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. 3.There is no blessings in the chart. 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in navamsa. This may indicate the separation and then divorce. But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This is not present in her husband chart. I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her husband chart. This may be due to wrong birth time. When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except navamsa. You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraAsh <kas wrote: Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth. And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of AshTuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: RE: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Harjeet and All, Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the points are less in 7th house so results are showing. Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. So here results are more severe. Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects of 6th lord. So only Moon is good for timing and quality. From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and 2:12. Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve. Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can’t give full happiness. After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start afresh for the child. The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. Otherwise it’s very difficult. On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman’s wife’s chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even in the ball park. I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he questioned the authenticity of birth time. Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshiTuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Amir,i am just learning KAS...taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahusamdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dontwish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is alsosamdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.Ashji please guide on this one..i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdharito 6th lord saturn gave marriage.also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to2006 apr.also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswellas 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.sun in 7th house.moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might causeyou to take hasty steps.cant go more as out of time..try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective ofbirth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspectsher mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strongattraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor.thanks/regardsharjeet , jay shanders<phillyanyone wrote:>> Dear Mr. ramesh> how are you?/> thank you so much for your reply> as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to giveyou a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice andprediction as to my current divorce proceeding> my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy ofher indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestlydont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. canyou use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM youhave said that there is no divorce now or future, does that stillhold. i just want to know that even though iam going through thedivorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and usdivorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time isaccurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? ijust want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lastingmarriage ??> > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a personsave his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so muchabout. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated??> thank you> amir> > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> Dear Amir,> Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> your answers.> I had asked you before also the correctness of> birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> data.> Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts> will be useless.> This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> understand it.> Ramesh Mishra> > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote:> > > Dear Ramesh,> > namaste> > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > consults and you have beening gicing me > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > reunite with me after it ??> > thank you> > amir> > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> > Dear Amir,> > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > the month of Feb/2008.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone wrote:> > NAMASTE> > Dear Guruji> > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > wife and daughter > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > proceeding status. > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > controling parents > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > divorce becase of > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > weeks going by, i > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > marriage and she too > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > her parents are > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > marriage. my wife does > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > me so she says > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > else. i have tried > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > married for 5 years, > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > 8, 2006. i have > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > divorce or 2nd > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > will my marriage > > survive this current divorce status and me and my> > wfie getting back > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > help i can get > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > as to my marriage-> > divorce or us reuniting???? > > thank you> > God bless> > amir> > > > amir patel> > biodata-> > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india> > > > bijal patel> > biodata> > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Anup, You are correct with lagna and your statement of SD also. After writing mail I noticed Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship. so Ma can not be SD to Mo. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra"Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote: Dear Ramesh, I am gettind Asc 6Sc38. Your explaination so nice. But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned. Regards Anup ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in respect of his spouse are followings. 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined delay caused by Sa and Ju both. This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara who is SD to Mo. Ma is also 6th lord. 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. 3.There is no blessings in the chart. 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in navamsa. This may indicate the separation and then divorce. But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This is not present in her husband chart. I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her husband chart. This may be due to wrong birth time. When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except navamsa. You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraAsh <kas wrote: Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth. And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of AshTuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: RE: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Harjeet and All, Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the points are less in 7th house so results are showing. Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. So here results are more severe. Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects of 6th lord. So only Moon is good for timing and quality. From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and 2:12. Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve. Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can’t give full happiness. After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start afresh for the child. The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. Otherwise it’s very difficult. On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman’s wife’s chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even in the ball park. I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he questioned the authenticity of birth time. Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshiTuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Amir,i am just learning KAS...taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahusamdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dontwish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is alsosamdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.Ashji please guide on this one..i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdharito 6th lord saturn gave marriage.also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to2006 apr.also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswellas 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.sun in 7th house.moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might causeyou to take hasty steps.cant go more as out of time..try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective ofbirth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspectsher mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strongattraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor.thanks/regardsharjeet , jay shanders<phillyanyone wrote:>> Dear Mr. ramesh> how are you?/> thank you so much for your reply> as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to giveyou a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice andprediction as to my current divorce proceeding> my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy ofher indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestlydont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. canyou use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM youhave said that there is no divorce now or future, does that stillhold. i just want to know that even though iam going through thedivorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and usdivorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time isaccurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? ijust want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lastingmarriage ??> > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a personsave his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so muchabout. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated??> thank you> amir> > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> Dear Amir,> Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> your answers.> I had asked you before also the correctness of> birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> data.> Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts> will be useless.> This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> understand it.> Ramesh Mishra> > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote:> > > Dear Ramesh,> > namaste> > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > consults and you have beening gicing me > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > reunite with me after it ??> > thank you> > amir> > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> > Dear Amir,> > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > the month of Feb/2008.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone wrote:> > NAMASTE> > Dear Guruji> > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > wife and daughter > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > proceeding status. > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > controling parents > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > divorce becase of > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > weeks going by, i > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > marriage and she too > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > her parents are > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > marriage. my wife does > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > me so she says > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > else. i have tried > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > married for 5 years, > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > 8, 2006. i have > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > divorce or 2nd > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > will my marriage > > survive this current divorce status and me and my> > wfie getting back > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > help i can get > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > as to my marriage-> > divorce or us reuniting???? > > thank you> > God bless> > amir> > > > amir patel> > biodata-> > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india> > > > bijal patel> > biodata> > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ramesh, Moon and Mars are in 4:10 relation in navamsa.So even then this sld not be Samdharmi.So, in navamsa if planets are in 4:10 ratio, they cant be SD. I think this rule is applied for a Rasi chart. Plz correct me if i am wrong. Regards Anup ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Anup, You are correct with lagna and your statement of SD also. After writing mail I noticed Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship. so Ma can not be SD to Mo. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra"Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Ramesh, I am gettind Asc 6Sc38. Your explaination so nice. But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned. Regards Anup ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in respect of his spouse are followings. 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined delay caused by Sa and Ju both. This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara who is SD to Mo. Ma is also 6th lord. 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. 3.There is no blessings in the chart. 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in navamsa. This may indicate the separation and then divorce. But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This is not present in her husband chart. I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her husband chart. This may be due to wrong birth time. When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except navamsa. You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraAsh <kas wrote: Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth. And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of AshTuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: RE: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Harjeet and All, Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the points are less in 7th house so results are showing. Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. So here results are more severe. Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects of 6th lord. So only Moon is good for timing and quality. From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and 2:12. Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve. Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can’t give full happiness. After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start afresh for the child. The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. Otherwise it’s very difficult. On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman’s wife’s chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even in the ball park. I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he questioned the authenticity of birth time. Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshiTuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Amir,i am just learning KAS...taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahusamdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dontwish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is alsosamdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.Ashji please guide on this one..i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdharito 6th lord saturn gave marriage.also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to2006 apr.also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswellas 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.sun in 7th house.moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might causeyou to take hasty steps.cant go more as out of time..try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective ofbirth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspectsher mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strongattraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor.thanks/regardsharjeet , jay shanders<phillyanyone wrote:>> Dear Mr. ramesh> how are you?/> thank you so much for your reply> as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to giveyou a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice andprediction as to my current divorce proceeding> my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy ofher indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestlydont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. canyou use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM youhave said that there is no divorce now or future, does that stillhold. i just want to know that even though iam going through thedivorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and usdivorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time isaccurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? ijust want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lastingmarriage ??> > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a personsave his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so muchabout. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated??> thank you> amir> > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> Dear Amir,> Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> your answers.> I had asked you before also the correctness of> birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> data.> Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts> will be useless.> This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> understand it.> Ramesh Mishra> > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote:> > > Dear Ramesh,> > namaste> > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > consults and you have beening gicing me > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > reunite with me after it ??> > thank you> > amir> > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> > Dear Amir,> > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > the month of Feb/2008.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone wrote:> > NAMASTE> > Dear Guruji> > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > wife and daughter > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > proceeding status. > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > controling parents > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > divorce becase of > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > weeks going by, i > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > marriage and she too > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > her parents are > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > marriage. my wife does > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > me so she says > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > else. i have tried > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > married for 5 years, > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > 8, 2006. i have > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > divorce or 2nd > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > will my marriage > > survive this current divorce status and me and my> > wfie getting back > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > help i can get > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > as to my marriage-> > divorce or us reuniting???? > > thank you> > God bless> > amir> > > > amir patel> > biodata-> > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india> > > > bijal patel> > biodata> > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ashji, Amir has more points in 7th house compared to lagna.. so his wife should be considered somewhat stubborn as the points are 29 and not more than 30. again my same question : this should be reflected in the lagna of Amir's wife ? should lagna be more than 28 points ? so can we judge if time is correct or not from this criteria too ? thanks/regards harjeet , jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote: > > NAMASTE > Dear fellow member, > thank you so much for taking the time to analyze my and my wifes charts as i honeslty dont know which birth time 8:30 AM or 9:36 AM is accurate for my wife but my birth time of 7:15 PM is accurate so what would be the over all outcome as to my current divorce situation- will the divorce go though and us divorceed with my chancea or reuniting afterwards ????? any 2nd marriage for either ?? or will the divorce not happen and us reuntiing and staying married?? i just want to know what to really expect as to my current divorce proceedings?? > since my birth time is accurate then all my events in life will fall into place right?? what can i expect as to my life events as to now and the future in terms of marriage ??? i would appreciate all advice possible. > GOD bless > amir > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > > I am gettind Asc 6Sc38. > Your explaination so nice. > But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned. > > Regards > Anup > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in respect of his spouse are followings. > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined delay caused by Sa and Ju both. > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara who is SD to Mo. > Ma is also 6th lord. > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in navamsa. > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This is not present in her husband chart. > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her husband chart. > This may be due to wrong birth time. > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except navamsa. > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Ash <kas wrote: > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth. > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the points are less in 7th house so results are showing. > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. So here results are more severe. > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects of 6th lord. > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and 2:12. > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start afresh for the child. > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even in the ball park. > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he questioned the authenticity of birth time. > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > Dear Amir, > i am just learning KAS... > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > Ashji please guide on this one.. > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > 2006 apr. > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > sun in 7th house. > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > you to take hasty steps. > cant go more as out of time.. > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , jay shanders > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > how are you?/ > > thank you so much for your reply > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting > marriage ?? > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > thank you > > amir > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > Dear Amir, > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > your answers. > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > data. > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > will be useless. > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > understand it. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > namaste > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > thank you > > > amir > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > Dear Amir, > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > NAMASTE > > > Dear Guruji > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > wife and daughter > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > proceeding status. > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > controling parents > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > divorce becase of > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > weeks going by, i > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > marriage and she too > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > her parents are > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > marriage. my wife does > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > me so she says > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > else. i have tried > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > married for 5 years, > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > divorce or 2nd > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > will my marriage > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > wfie getting back > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > help i can get > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > as to my marriage- > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > thank you > > > God bless > > > amir > > > > > > amir patel > > > biodata- > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > bijal patel > > > biodata > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Harjeet, It might also mean that the native is not getting support from his wife and might feel dominated. If the difference is more than 33% then again there are more problems w.r.t adjustment. I think this is given somewhere in lessons or archives by Krushanji. Lagna points are 25, so it might mean that the native is not adamant or egoistic etc, also check from Mo and Su as well. Also study the intelligence and all such things as well such as mind and moon and its status. Now, it also might be possible that in his wife’s chart also she might have more points in lagna as compared to 7th then in that case, she also might feel dominated so adjusting for both might become a problem. All these things should be considered when matching charts for marriage. Then also check Sa and Ra’s relation to Mars and Mars with Venus, blessings etc. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 19, 2007 10:27 AM Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Ashji, Amir has more points in 7th house compared to lagna.. so his wife should be considered somewhat stubborn as the points are 29 and not more than 30. again my same question : this should be reflected in the lagna of Amir's wife ? should lagna be more than 28 points ? so can we judge if time is correct or not from this criteria too ? thanks/regards harjeet , jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote: > > NAMASTE > Dear fellow member, > thank you so much for taking the time to analyze my and my wifes charts as i honeslty dont know which birth time 8:30 AM or 9:36 AM is accurate for my wife but my birth time of 7:15 PM is accurate so what would be the over all outcome as to my current divorce situation- will the divorce go though and us divorceed with my chancea or reuniting afterwards ????? any 2nd marriage for either ?? or will the divorce not happen and us reuntiing and staying married?? i just want to know what to really expect as to my current divorce proceedings?? > since my birth time is accurate then all my events in life will fall into place right?? what can i expect as to my life events as to now and the future in terms of marriage ??? i would appreciate all advice possible. > GOD bless > amir > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > > I am gettind Asc 6Sc38. > Your explaination so nice. > But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned. > > Regards > Anup > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in respect of his spouse are followings. > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined delay caused by Sa and Ju both. > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara who is SD to Mo. > Ma is also 6th lord. > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in navamsa. > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This is not present in her husband chart. > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her husband chart. > This may be due to wrong birth time. > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except navamsa. > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Ash <kas wrote: > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth. > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the points are less in 7th house so results are showing. > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. So here results are more severe. > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects of 6th lord. > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and 2:12. > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start afresh for the child. > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even in the ball park. > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he questioned the authenticity of birth time. > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > Dear Amir, > i am just learning KAS... > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > Ashji please guide on this one.. > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > 2006 apr. > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > sun in 7th house. > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > you to take hasty steps. > cant go more as out of time.. > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , jay shanders > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > how are you?/ > > thank you so much for your reply > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting > marriage ?? > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > thank you > > amir > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > Dear Amir, > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > your answers. > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > data. > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > will be useless. > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > understand it. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > namaste > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > thank you > > > amir > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > Dear Amir, > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > NAMASTE > > > Dear Guruji > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > wife and daughter > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > proceeding status. > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > controling parents > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > divorce becase of > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > weeks going by, i > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > marriage and she too > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > her parents are > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > marriage. my wife does > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > me so she says > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > else. i have tried > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > married for 5 years, > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > divorce or 2nd > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > will my marriage > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > wfie getting back > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > help i can get > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > as to my marriage- > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > thank you > > > God bless > > > amir > > > > > > amir patel > > > biodata- > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > bijal patel > > > biodata > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ramesh, Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth time may still be wrong. J Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM RE: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in respect of his spouse are followings. 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined delay caused by Sa and Ju both. This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara who is SD to Mo. Ma is also 6th lord. 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. 3.There is no blessings in the chart. 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in navamsa. This may indicate the separation and then divorce. But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This is not present in her husband chart. I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her husband chart. This may be due to wrong birth time. When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except navamsa. You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Ash <kas wrote: Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth. And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Ash Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM RE: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Harjeet and All, Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the points are less in 7th house so results are showing. Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. So here results are more severe. Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects of 6th lord. So only Moon is good for timing and quality. From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and 2:12. Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve. Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can’t give full happiness. After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start afresh for the child. The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. Otherwise it’s very difficult. On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman’s wife’s chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even in the ball park. I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he questioned the authenticity of birth time. Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Amir, i am just learning KAS... taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. Ashji please guide on this one.. i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to 2006 apr. also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. sun in 7th house. moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause you to take hasty steps. cant go more as out of time.. try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. thanks/regards harjeet , jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote: > > Dear Mr. ramesh > how are you?/ > thank you so much for your reply > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting marriage ?? > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > thank you > amir > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Amir, > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > your answers. > I had asked you before also the correctness of > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > data. > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > will be useless. > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > understand it. > Ramesh Mishra > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > namaste > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > reunite with me after it ?? > > thank you > > amir > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Amir, > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > the month of Feb/2008. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone wrote: > > NAMASTE > > Dear Guruji > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > wife and daughter > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > proceeding status. > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > controling parents > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > divorce becase of > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > weeks going by, i > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > marriage and she too > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > her parents are > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > marriage. my wife does > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > me so she says > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > else. i have tried > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > married for 5 years, > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > 8, 2006. i have > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > divorce or 2nd > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > will my marriage > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > wfie getting back > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > help i can get > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > as to my marriage- > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > thank you > > God bless > > amir > > > > amir patel > > biodata- > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > > > bijal patel > > biodata > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ash,Anup, Harjeet and all, Another reason for the doubt in her birth time is the period of separation on 9 Mar 2007. The native was running through 2nd lord antara of Jup. This period may give worries and strain but separation I could not find in this antara. The separation took place in second sector of Ju antara. When you analyse the 2nd house, its karak is Mo who is in house B of 7th. The Mo is strongly placed in 7th with 6 bindus and in the 10th place from Sa ,LoD for 7th.Therefore aspect of Sa on Mo may not harm the native for 7th house matter. On the contrary Mo being powerful in 7th, LoA for 2nd may influence the native for separation. Mo will have its malefic aspect on lagna. So Mo antara may give either separation or divorce. But it is not so. Ju is not SD to either Mo or Me or Ve. These antaras are late for the result of 2nd house matter. I could not understand how Ju separated them. Of course Ju is LoA for 7th and LoB for 2nd. Ju is weak in WS for 2nd and 7th. So I do not think Ju antara should result in separation for this couple as per her chart. The timing of child birth on 8 Sep 2006 is in line.She might have conceived in the month of Dec 2005 during Ra-Ma. But the chart shows delay in conception but she conceived in second sector instead of third sector in Ma antara. Ma is in 9th house So these are the points where I found birth time of this female native is incorrect. If I am wrong with my analysis,please correct me. This detail explanation is for my learning. With best regards. Ramesh Mishra harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: Dear Ashji,Amir has more points in 7th house compared to lagna.. so his wifeshould be considered somewhat stubborn as the points are 29 and notmore than 30.again my same question : this should be reflected in the lagna ofAmir's wife ? should lagna be more than 28 points ?so can we judge if time is correct or not from this criteria too ?thanks/regardsharjeet , jay shanders<phillyanyone wrote:>> NAMASTE> Dear fellow member,> thank you so much for taking the time to analyze my and my wifescharts as i honeslty dont know which birth time 8:30 AM or 9:36 AM isaccurate for my wife but my birth time of 7:15 PM is accurate so whatwould be the over all outcome as to my current divorce situation- willthe divorce go though and us divorceed with my chancea or reunitingafterwards ????? any 2nd marriage for either ?? or will the divorcenot happen and us reuntiing and staying married?? i just want to knowwhat to really expect as to my current divorce proceedings??> since my birth time is accurate then all my events in life willfall into place right?? what can i expect as to my life events as tonow and the future in terms of marriage ??? i would appreciate alladvice possible.> GOD bless> amir> > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Ramesh,> > I am gettind Asc 6Sc38.> Your explaination so nice.> But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned.> > Regards> Anup> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,> The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time inrespect of his spouse are followings.> 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve isthe strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combineddelay caused by Sa and Ju both.> This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.> As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antarawho is SD to Mo.> Ma is also 6th lord.> 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th fromlagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.> 3.There is no blessings in the chart.> 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.> 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lordof 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10relationship in navamsa.> This may indicate the separation and then divorce.> But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.> 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.This is not present in her husband chart.> I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with herhusband chart.> This may be due to wrong birth time.> When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changesexcept navamsa.> You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.> Thanks and regards.> Ramesh Mishra> > Ash <kas wrote:> Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with thegiven time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet ofVenus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth.> And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AMwhich is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time mightbe wrong.> > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > [ ] On Behalf Of Ash> Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM> > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce> > > Dear Harjeet and All, > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most ofthe points are less in 7th house so results are showing.> Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. Sofrom there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC inNavamsa. So here results are more severe. > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th andfrom Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offsetbad effects of 6th lord. > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11and 2:12. > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and thenof Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6thlord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less powerin 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in7th house. > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significatorfor 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve.> Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at thesame time its SD to Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.> After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with hiswife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygonesand start afresh for the child.> The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.> Otherwise it's very difficult.> > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion thatKrushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman'swife's chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and usingKAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper timeof his wife and so did I. > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just acceptingthe time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takesproper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fittingright or even in the ball park.> I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason onwhy he questioned the authenticity of birth time.> Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personallyexperienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth timeis accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > [ ] On Behalf Of harjeetbakshi> Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM> > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > Dear Amir,> i am just learning KAS...> > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu> samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.> now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for> 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont> wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also> samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.> Ashji please guide on this one..> i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari> to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.> also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...> result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to> 2006 apr.> also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell> as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.> venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5> points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.> sun in 7th house.> moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause> you to take hasty steps.> cant go more as out of time..> try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of> birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects> her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong> attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor.> thanks/regards> harjeet> > , jay shanders> <phillyanyone@> wrote:> >> > Dear Mr. ramesh> > how are you?/> > thank you so much for your reply> > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give> you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and> prediction as to my current divorce proceeding> > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of> her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly> dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can> you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you> have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still> hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the> divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us> divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is> accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i> just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting> marriage ??> > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person> save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much> about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated??> > thank you> > amir> > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > Dear Amir,> > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> > your answers.> > I had asked you before also the correctness of> > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> > data.> > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts> > will be useless.> > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> > understand it.> > Ramesh Mishra> > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > namaste> > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > > reunite with me after it ??> > > thank you> > > amir> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > Dear Amir,> > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > > the month of Feb/2008.> > > Thanks and regards.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > NAMASTE> > > Dear Guruji> > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > > wife and daughter > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > > proceeding status. > > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > > controling parents > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > > divorce becase of > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > > weeks going by, i > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > > marriage and she too > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > > her parents are > > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > > marriage. my wife does > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > > me so she says > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > > else. i have tried > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > > married for 5 years, > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > > 8, 2006. i have > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > > divorce or 2nd > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > > will my marriage > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my> > > wfie getting back > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > > help i can get > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > > as to my marriage-> > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > thank you> > > God bless> > > amir> > > > > > amir patel> > > biodata-> > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > bijal patel> > > biodata> > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Mishraji, for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth time may > still be wrong. :-) > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of ramesh mishra > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in respect of > his spouse are followings. > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined delay caused > by Sa and Ju both. > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara who is SD > to Mo. > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from lagna, Su > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of 2nd is > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in navamsa. > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This is not > present in her husband chart. > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her husband > chart. > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > navamsa. > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > Ash <kas wrote: > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time of 8:30 > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet Ramesh > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which is more > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > _____ > > > > On Behalf Of Ash > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the points > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So from there > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. So here > results are more severe. > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from Mercury > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects of 6th > lord. > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and 2:12. > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then of Ju > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord and 7th > lord Sa and Mo. > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in 7th, and > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator for 5th > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th as B and > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its SD to > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 points > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his wife and to > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start afresh > for the child. > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji gave on > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a prime > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed out. > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting the time > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper effort to > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even in the > ball park. > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time is > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > _____ > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > Dear Amir, > i am just learning KAS... > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > Ashji please guide on this one.. > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > 2006 apr. > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > sun in 7th house. > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > you to take hasty steps. > cant go more as out of time.. > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > jay shanders > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > how are you?/ > > thank you so much for your reply > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting > marriage ?? > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > thank you > > amir > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > Dear Amir, > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > your answers. > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > data. > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > will be useless. > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > understand it. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > namaste > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > thank you > > > amir > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > Dear Amir, > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > NAMASTE > > > Dear Guruji > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > wife and daughter > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > proceeding status. > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > controling parents > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > divorce becase of > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > weeks going by, i > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > marriage and she too > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > her parents are > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > marriage. my wife does > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > me so she says > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > else. i have tried > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > married for 5 years, > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > divorce or 2nd > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > will my marriage > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > wfie getting back > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > help i can get > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > as to my marriage- > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > thank you > > > God bless > > > amir > > > > > > amir patel > > > biodata- > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > bijal patel > > > biodata > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord of C. and also has low points for 7th house. so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. should bring better results ? Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the expenditure is too much from her side ? thanks/regards harjeet , " harjeet bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Mishraji, > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > time may > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of > ramesh mishra > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > respect of > > his spouse are followings. > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > delay caused > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > who is SD > > to Mo. > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > lagna, Su > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > 2nd is > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > navamsa. > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > is not > > present in her husband chart. > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her husband > > chart. > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > navamsa. > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > of 8:30 > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > Ramesh > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > is more > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > points > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > from there > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > So here > > results are more severe. > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > Mercury > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > of 6th > > lord. > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > 2:12. > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then of Ju > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > and 7th > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > 7th, and > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > for 5th > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > as B and > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > SD to > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > points > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > wife and to > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > afresh > > for the child. > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > gave on > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a prime > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed out. > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > the time > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > effort to > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even in the > > ball park. > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time is > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Amir, > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > 2006 apr. > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > sun in 7th house. > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > you to take hasty steps. > > cant go more as out of time.. > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents , > > jay shanders > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > how are you?/ > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting > > marriage ?? > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > thank you > > > amir > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > Dear Amir, > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > your answers. > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > data. > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > will be useless. > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > understand it. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > namaste > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > thank you > > > > amir > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > NAMASTE > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > wife and daughter > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > proceeding status. > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > controling parents > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > divorce becase of > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > marriage and she too > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > her parents are > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > me so she says > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > else. i have tried > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > will my marriage > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > wfie getting back > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > help i can get > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > > thank you > > > > God bless > > > > amir > > > > > > > > amir patel > > > > biodata- > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > bijal patel > > > > biodata > > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Harjeet, How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong somewhere. If you find that post let me know. 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful then even with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in detail using both times. This will give u good practice. I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord of C. and also has low points for 7th house. so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. should bring better results ? Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the expenditure is too much from her side ? thanks/regards harjeet , " harjeet bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Mishraji, > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > time may > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of > ramesh mishra > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > respect of > > his spouse are followings. > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > delay caused > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > who is SD > > to Mo. > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > lagna, Su > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > 2nd is > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > navamsa. > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > is not > > present in her husband chart. > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her husband > > chart. > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > navamsa. > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > of 8:30 > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > Ramesh > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > is more > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > points > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > from there > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > So here > > results are more severe. > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > Mercury > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > of 6th > > lord. > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > 2:12. > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then of Ju > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > and 7th > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > 7th, and > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > for 5th > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > as B and > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > SD to > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > points > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > wife and to > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > afresh > > for the child. > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > gave on > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a prime > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed out. > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > the time > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > effort to > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even in the > > ball park. > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time is > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Amir, > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > 2006 apr. > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > sun in 7th house. > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > you to take hasty steps. > > cant go more as out of time.. > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents , > > jay shanders > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > how are you?/ > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting > > marriage ?? > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > thank you > > > amir > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > Dear Amir, > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > your answers. > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > data. > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > will be useless. > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > understand it. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > namaste > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > thank you > > > > amir > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > NAMASTE > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > wife and daughter > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > proceeding status. > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > controling parents > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > divorce becase of > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > marriage and she too > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > her parents are > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > me so she says > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > else. i have tried > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > will my marriage > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > wfie getting back > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > help i can get > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > > thank you > > > > God bless > > > > amir > > > > > > > > amir patel > > > > biodata- > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > bijal patel > > > > biodata > > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ashji, if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong somewhere. If > you find that post let me know. > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful then even > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in detail > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > should bring better results ? > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > expenditure is too much from her side ? > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > time may > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > > ramesh mishra > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > respect of > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > delay caused > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > who is SD > > > to Mo. > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > lagna, Su > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > > 2nd is > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > navamsa. > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > > is not > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > husband > > > chart. > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > > navamsa. > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > of 8:30 > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > Ramesh > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > > is more > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of Ash > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > > points > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > from there > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > So here > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > Mercury > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > > of 6th > > > lord. > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > > 2:12. > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > of Ju > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > and 7th > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > > 7th, and > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > for 5th > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > > as B and > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > > SD to > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > > points > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > wife and to > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > afresh > > > for the child. > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > > gave on > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > prime > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > out. > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > the time > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > effort to > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > in the > > > ball park. > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > time is > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > > 2006 apr. > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > sun in 7th house. > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > jay shanders > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > how are you?/ > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > > thank you > > > > amir > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > your answers. > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > data. > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > will be useless. > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > understand it. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > namaste > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > thank you > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > controling parents > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > her parents are > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > me so she says > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > help i can get > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ashji, regarding 2nd lord thingy... i dont remember the message number but if i find it i would forward it. it was conversation between Krushnaji and Sanjay Jaggia.. if i am not mistaken.. i am not 100 percent sure thats why i asked you about it. in any case if i find it i would forward it. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong somewhere. If > you find that post let me know. > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful then even > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in detail > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > should bring better results ? > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > expenditure is too much from her side ? > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > time may > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > > ramesh mishra > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > respect of > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > delay caused > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > who is SD > > > to Mo. > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > lagna, Su > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > > 2nd is > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > navamsa. > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > > is not > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > husband > > > chart. > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > > navamsa. > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > of 8:30 > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > Ramesh > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > > is more > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of Ash > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > > points > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > from there > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > So here > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > Mercury > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > > of 6th > > > lord. > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > > 2:12. > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > of Ju > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > and 7th > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > > 7th, and > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > for 5th > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > > as B and > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > > SD to > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > > points > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > wife and to > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > afresh > > > for the child. > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > > gave on > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > prime > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > out. > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > the time > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > effort to > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > in the > > > ball park. > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > time is > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > > 2006 apr. > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > sun in 7th house. > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > jay shanders > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > how are you?/ > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > > thank you > > > > amir > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > your answers. > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > data. > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > will be useless. > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > understand it. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > namaste > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > thank you > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > controling parents > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > her parents are > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > me so she says > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > help i can get > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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