Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Harjeet, Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna and 9th lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9. Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st house so it might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered. Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who are weak for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage. Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out if this girl has more spending trend. Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in 11th and aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean birth? So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of Mercury and 2 of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again confirm that. That is why having many events is important so yes good observation on the time of 8:40 AM. If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna might be different or even the date might be different. Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007 so that falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th. So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of Venus, Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or might give miscarriage and Mo should give conception. So again some more rectification might be required. So like that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Ashji, if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong somewhere. If > you find that post let me know. > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful then even > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in detail > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > should bring better results ? > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > expenditure is too much from her side ? > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > time may > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > > ramesh mishra > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > respect of > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > delay caused > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > who is SD > > > to Mo. > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > lagna, Su > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > > 2nd is > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > navamsa. > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > > is not > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > husband > > > chart. > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > > navamsa. > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > of 8:30 > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > Ramesh > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > > is more > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of Ash > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > > points > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > from there > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > So here > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > Mercury > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > > of 6th > > > lord. > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > > 2:12. > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > of Ju > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > and 7th > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > > 7th, and > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > for 5th > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > > as B and > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > > SD to > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > > points > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > wife and to > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > afresh > > > for the child. > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > > gave on > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > prime > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > out. > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > the time > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > effort to > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > in the > > > ball park. > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > time is > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > > 2006 apr. > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > sun in 7th house. > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > jay shanders > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > how are you?/ > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > > thank you > > > > amir > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > your answers. > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > data. > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > will be useless. > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > understand it. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > namaste > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > thank you > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > controling parents > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > her parents are > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > me so she says > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > help i can get > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Harjeet, Good analysis on the 5:9 J Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Ashji, if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong somewhere. If > you find that post let me know. > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful then even > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in detail > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > should bring better results ? > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > expenditure is too much from her side ? > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > time may > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > > ramesh mishra > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > respect of > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > delay caused > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > who is SD > > > to Mo. > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > lagna, Su > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > > 2nd is > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > navamsa. > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > > is not > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > husband > > > chart. > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > > navamsa. > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > of 8:30 > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > Ramesh > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > > is more > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of Ash > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > > points > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > from there > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > So here > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > Mercury > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > > of 6th > > > lord. > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > > 2:12. > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > of Ju > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > and 7th > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > > 7th, and > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > for 5th > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > > as B and > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > > SD to > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > > points > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > wife and to > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > afresh > > > for the child. > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > > gave on > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > prime > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > out. > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > the time > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > effort to > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > in the > > > ball park. > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > time is > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > > 2006 apr. > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > sun in 7th house. > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > jay shanders > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > how are you?/ > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > > thank you > > > > amir > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > your answers. > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > data. > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > will be useless. > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > understand it. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > namaste > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > thank you > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > controling parents > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > her parents are > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > me so she says > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > help i can get > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > > > thank you > > > > > God bless > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > amir patel > > > > > biodata- > > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > bijal patel > > > > > biodata > > > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all, Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn’t it spoil 9th house results? What is special about this lagna? What other lagna would this be applicable to and why? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Ash Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM RE: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Harjeet, Good analysis on the 5:9 J Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Ashji, if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong somewhere. If > you find that post let me know. > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful then even > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in detail > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > should bring better results ? > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > expenditure is too much from her side ? > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > time may > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > > ramesh mishra > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > respect of > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is the > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > delay caused > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > who is SD > > > to Mo. > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > lagna, Su > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > > 2nd is > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > navamsa. > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > > is not > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > husband > > > chart. > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > > navamsa. > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > of 8:30 > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > Ramesh > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > > is more > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of Ash > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > > points > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > from there > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > So here > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > Mercury > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > > of 6th > > > lord. > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > > 2:12. > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > of Ju > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > and 7th > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > > 7th, and > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th house. > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > for 5th > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > > as B and > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > > SD to > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > > points > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > wife and to > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > afresh > > > for the child. > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > > gave on > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > prime > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > out. > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > the time > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > effort to > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > in the > > > ball park. > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on why he > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > time is > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > > 2006 apr. > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > sun in 7th house. > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > jay shanders > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > how are you?/ > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > > thank you > > > > amir > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > your answers. > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > data. > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > will be useless. > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > understand it. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > namaste > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > thank you > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > controling parents > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > her parents are > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > me so she says > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > help i can get > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > > > thank you > > > > > God bless > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > amir patel > > > > > biodata- > > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > bijal patel > > > > > biodata > > > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Thanks Sir, so other events like child birth also fall in place i guess.. antra of jupiter lord of 2nd can irrespective create problems/tensions and is having low points for 7th house.. can we say that time might be correct ? thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-) > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji, > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > somewhere. If > > you find that post let me know. > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > then even > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in > detail > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > > should bring better results ? > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > > time may > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of > > > ramesh mishra > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > > respect of > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve > is the > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > > delay caused > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > > who is SD > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > > lagna, Su > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > > > 2nd is > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > > > is not > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > husband > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > > of 8:30 > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > > Ramesh > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > > > is more > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > > > points > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > > from there > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > So here > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > > Mercury > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > > > of 6th > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > > of Ju > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > > and 7th > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > > > 7th, and > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > house. > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > > for 5th > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > > > as B and > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > > > SD to > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > > > points > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > > wife and to > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > > afresh > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > > > gave on > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > > prime > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > > out. > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > > the time > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > effort to > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > > in the > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > why he > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > > time is > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > bakshi > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > of rahu > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i > dont > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is > also > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > samdhari > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > jay shanders > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > honestly > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > now. can > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > and us > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > lasting > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > > > thank you > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > your answers. > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > data. > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > understand it. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Yes sir, as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra. i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna and 9th > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9. > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st house so it > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered. > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who are weak > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage. > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out if this > girl has more spending trend. > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in 11th and > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean birth? > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of Mercury and 2 > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again confirm > that. > > That is why having many events is important so yes good observation on the > time of 8:40 AM. > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna might be > different or even the date might be different. > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007 so that > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th. > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of Venus, > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or might give > miscarriage and Mo should give conception. > > So again some more rectification might be required. > > So like that. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji, > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > somewhere. If > > you find that post let me know. > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > then even > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in > detail > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > > should bring better results ? > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > > time may > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of > > > ramesh mishra > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > > respect of > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve > is the > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > > delay caused > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > > who is SD > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > > lagna, Su > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > > > 2nd is > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > > > is not > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > husband > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > > of 8:30 > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > > Ramesh > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > > > is more > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > > > points > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > > from there > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > So here > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > > Mercury > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > > > of 6th > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > > of Ju > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > > and 7th > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > > > 7th, and > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > house. > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > > for 5th > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > > > as B and > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > > > SD to > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > > > points > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > > wife and to > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > > afresh > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > > > gave on > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > > prime > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > > out. > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > > the time > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > effort to > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > > in the > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > why he > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > > time is > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > bakshi > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > of rahu > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i > dont > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is > also > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > samdhari > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > jay shanders > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > honestly > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > now. can > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > and us > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > lasting > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > > > thank you > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > your answers. > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > data. > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > understand it. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce Yes sir, as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra. i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna and 9th > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9. > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st house so it > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered. > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who are weak > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage. > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out if this > girl has more spending trend. > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in 11th and > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean birth? > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of Mercury and 2 > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again confirm > that. > > That is why having many events is important so yes good observation on the > time of 8:40 AM. > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna might be > different or even the date might be different. > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007 so that > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th. > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of Venus, > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or might give > miscarriage and Mo should give conception. > > So again some more rectification might be required. > > So like that. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji, > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > somewhere. If > > you find that post let me know. > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > then even > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in > detail > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > > should bring better results ? > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > > time may > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of > > > ramesh mishra > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > > respect of > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve > is the > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > > delay caused > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > > who is SD > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > > lagna, Su > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > > > 2nd is > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > > > is not > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > husband > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > > of 8:30 > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > > Ramesh > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > > > is more > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > > > points > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > > from there > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > So here > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > > Mercury > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > > > of 6th > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > > of Ju > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > > and 7th > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > > > 7th, and > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > house. > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > > for 5th > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > > > as B and > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > > > SD to > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > > > points > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > > wife and to > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > > afresh > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > > > gave on > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > > prime > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > > out. > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > > the time > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > effort to > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > > in the > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > why he > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > > time is > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > bakshi > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > of rahu > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i > dont > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is > also > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > samdhari > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > jay shanders > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > honestly > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > now. can > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > and us > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > lasting > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > > > thank you > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > your answers. > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > data. > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > understand it. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Sir, as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous mail. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Yes sir, > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra. > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna and 9th > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9. > > > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st > house so it > > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered. > > > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who > are weak > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage. > > > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out > if this > > girl has more spending trend. > > > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in > 11th and > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean > birth? > > > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of > Mercury and 2 > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again confirm > > that. > > > > That is why having many events is important so yes good observation > on the > > time of 8:40 AM. > > > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna might be > > different or even the date might be different. > > > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007 > so that > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th. > > > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of > Venus, > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or might give > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception. > > > > So again some more rectification might be required. > > > > So like that. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > > somewhere. If > > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > > then even > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in > > detail > > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > > > should bring better results ? > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > > > time may > > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > > > respect of > > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve > > is the > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > > > delay caused > > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > > > who is SD > > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > > > lagna, Su > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka > lord of > > > > 2nd is > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. > This > > > > is not > > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > > husband > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes > except > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > > > of 8:30 > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > > > Ramesh > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM > which > > > > is more > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > > ca/> ca/> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most > of the > > > > points > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > > > from there > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > > So here > > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > > > Mercury > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad > effects > > > > of 6th > > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, > 3:11 and > > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > > > of Ju > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > > > and 7th > > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less > power in > > > > 7th, and > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > > house. > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > > > for 5th > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E > for 7th > > > > as B and > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same > time its > > > > SD to > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun > has 12 > > > > points > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > > > wife and to > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > > > afresh > > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that > Krushnaji > > > > gave on > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > > > prime > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > > > out. > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so > did I. > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > > > the time > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > > effort to > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > > > in the > > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > > why he > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > > > time is > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > > ca/> ca/> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > > bakshi > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > > of rahu > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest > point for > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i > > dont > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is > > also > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > > samdhari > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 > sep to > > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th > aswell > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house > with -5 > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might > cause > > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn > aspects > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive > factor. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > jay shanders > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a > copy of > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > > honestly > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > > now. can > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 > AM you > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > > and us > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth > time is > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > > lasting > > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be > appreciated?? > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > > your answers. > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > > data. > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > > understand it. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 How ? Ju and Sun are in 3rd house they are not in 5:9? Am I seeing something different ? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Sir, as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous mail. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Yes sir, > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra. > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna and 9th > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9. > > > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st > house so it > > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered. > > > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who > are weak > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage. > > > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out > if this > > girl has more spending trend. > > > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in > 11th and > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean > birth? > > > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of > Mercury and 2 > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again confirm > > that. > > > > That is why having many events is important so yes good observation > on the > > time of 8:40 AM. > > > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna might be > > different or even the date might be different. > > > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007 > so that > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th. > > > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of > Venus, > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or might give > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception. > > > > So again some more rectification might be required. > > > > So like that. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > > somewhere. If > > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > > then even > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in > > detail > > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > > > should bring better results ? > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > > > time may > > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > > > respect of > > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve > > is the > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > > > delay caused > > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > > > who is SD > > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > > > lagna, Su > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka > lord of > > > > 2nd is > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. > This > > > > is not > > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > > husband > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes > except > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > > > of 8:30 > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > > > Ramesh > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM > which > > > > is more > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > > ca/> ca/> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most > of the > > > > points > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > > > from there > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > > So here > > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > > > Mercury > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad > effects > > > > of 6th > > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, > 3:11 and > > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > > > of Ju > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > > > and 7th > > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less > power in > > > > 7th, and > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > > house. > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > > > for 5th > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E > for 7th > > > > as B and > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same > time its > > > > SD to > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun > has 12 > > > > points > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > > > wife and to > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > > > afresh > > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that > Krushnaji > > > > gave on > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > > > prime > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > > > out. > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so > did I. > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > > > the time > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > > effort to > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > > > in the > > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > > why he > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > > > time is > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > > ca/> ca/> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > > bakshi > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > > of rahu > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest > point for > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i > > dont > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is > > also > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > > samdhari > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 > sep to > > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th > aswell > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house > with -5 > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might > cause > > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn > aspects > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive > factor. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > jay shanders > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a > copy of > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > > honestly > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > > now. can > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 > AM you > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > > and us > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth > time is > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > > lasting > > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be > appreciated?? > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > > your answers. > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > > data. > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > > understand it. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ashji, although 6th house is D for 9th house.. but its for all lagna. for scorpio lagna moon is lord of 9th which is nsd to mars 6th lord.. may be thats the reason.. thats what i can come up with . thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all, > > > > Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it spoil > 9th house results? > > What is special about this lagna? > > What other lagna would this be applicable to and why? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Ash > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-) > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji, > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > somewhere. If > > you find that post let me know. > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > then even > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in > detail > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > > should bring better results ? > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > > time may > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of > > > ramesh mishra > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > > respect of > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve > is the > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > > delay caused > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > > who is SD > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > > lagna, Su > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > > > 2nd is > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > > > is not > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > husband > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > > of 8:30 > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > > Ramesh > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > > > is more > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > > > points > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > > from there > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > So here > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > > Mercury > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > > > of 6th > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > > of Ju > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > > and 7th > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > > > 7th, and > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > house. > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > > for 5th > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > > > as B and > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > > > SD to > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > > > points > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > > wife and to > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > > afresh > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > > > gave on > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > > prime > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > > out. > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > > the time > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > effort to > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > > in the > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > why he > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > > time is > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > bakshi > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > of rahu > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i > dont > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is > also > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > samdhari > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > jay shanders > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > honestly > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > now. can > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > and us > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > lasting > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > > > thank you > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > your answers. > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > data. > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > understand it. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 saggitarius is the other lagna. thks/rgds harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all, > > > > Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it spoil > 9th house results? > > What is special about this lagna? > > What other lagna would this be applicable to and why? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Ash > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-) > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji, > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > somewhere. If > > you find that post let me know. > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > then even > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in > detail > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > > should bring better results ? > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > > time may > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of > > > ramesh mishra > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > > respect of > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve > is the > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > > delay caused > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > > who is SD > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > > lagna, Su > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > > > 2nd is > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > > > is not > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > husband > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > > of 8:30 > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > > Ramesh > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > > > is more > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > > > points > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > > from there > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > So here > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > > Mercury > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > > > of 6th > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > > of Ju > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > > and 7th > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > > > 7th, and > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > house. > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > > for 5th > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > > > as B and > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > > > SD to > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > > > points > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > > wife and to > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > > afresh > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > > > gave on > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > > prime > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > > out. > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > > the time > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > effort to > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > > in the > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > why he > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > > time is > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > bakshi > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > of rahu > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i > dont > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is > also > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > samdhari > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > jay shanders > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > honestly > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > now. can > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > and us > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > lasting > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > > > thank you > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > your answers. > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > data. > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > understand it. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 No Harjeet, Think more on it. Krushnaji has told in short. Study carefully, lagna and 9th we see so here Ma is in 9th house .. what is special? Why it did not spoil ? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:10 PM Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Ashji, although 6th house is D for 9th house.. but its for all lagna. for scorpio lagna moon is lord of 9th which is nsd to mars 6th lord.. may be thats the reason.. thats what i can come up with . thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all, > > > > Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it spoil > 9th house results? > > What is special about this lagna? > > What other lagna would this be applicable to and why? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Ash > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-) > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji, > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > somewhere. If > > you find that post let me know. > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > then even > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in > detail > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > > should bring better results ? > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > > time may > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of > > > ramesh mishra > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > > respect of > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve > is the > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > > delay caused > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > > who is SD > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > > lagna, Su > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > > > 2nd is > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > > > is not > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > husband > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > > of 8:30 > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > > Ramesh > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > > > is more > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > > > points > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > > from there > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > So here > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > > Mercury > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > > > of 6th > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > > of Ju > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > > and 7th > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > > > 7th, and > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > house. > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > > for 5th > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > > > as B and > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > > > SD to > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > > > points > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > > wife and to > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > > afresh > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > > > gave on > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > > prime > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > > out. > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > > the time > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > effort to > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > > in the > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > why he > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > > time is > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > bakshi > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > of rahu > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i > dont > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is > also > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > samdhari > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > jay shanders > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > honestly > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > now. can > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > and us > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > lasting > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > > > thank you > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > your answers. > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > data. > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > understand it. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce saggitarius is the other lagna. thks/rgds harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all, > > > > Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it spoil > 9th house results? > > What is special about this lagna? > > What other lagna would this be applicable to and why? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Ash > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-) > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji, > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > somewhere. If > > you find that post let me know. > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > then even > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in > detail > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > > should bring better results ? > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > > time may > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of > > > ramesh mishra > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > > respect of > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve > is the > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > > delay caused > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > > who is SD > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > > lagna, Su > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord of > > > 2nd is > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. This > > > is not > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > husband > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes except > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > > of 8:30 > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > > Ramesh > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM which > > > is more > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of the > > > points > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > > from there > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > So here > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > > Mercury > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad effects > > > of 6th > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 and > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > > of Ju > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > > and 7th > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power in > > > 7th, and > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > house. > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > > for 5th > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for 7th > > > as B and > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time its > > > SD to > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has 12 > > > points > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > > wife and to > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > > afresh > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that Krushnaji > > > gave on > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > > prime > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > > out. > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did I. > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > > the time > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > effort to > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > > in the > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > why he > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > > time is > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > bakshi > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > of rahu > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i > dont > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is > also > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > samdhari > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > jay shanders > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > honestly > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > now. can > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > and us > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > lasting > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > > > thank you > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > your answers. > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > data. > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > understand it. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 , " Ash " <kas wrote: > O.K. one more try . here 6th lord is same as lagna lord. its trine to 9th lord... i.e. lord of C and D in house B. house C is the house for result.. same thing with taurus lagna. thanks/regards harjeet > No Harjeet, > > > > Think more on it. Krushnaji has told in short. Study carefully, lagna and > 9th we see so here Ma is in 9th house .. what is special? Why it did not > spoil ? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:10 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji, > although 6th house is D for 9th house.. but its for all lagna. > for scorpio lagna moon is lord of 9th which is nsd to mars 6th lord.. > may be thats the reason.. thats what i can come up with . > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all, > > > > > > > > Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it > spoil > > 9th house results? > > > > What is special about this lagna? > > > > What other lagna would this be applicable to and why? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of Ash > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-) > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > > somewhere. If > > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > > then even > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in > > detail > > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > > > should bring better results ? > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > > > time may > > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > > > respect of > > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve > > is the > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > > > delay caused > > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > > > who is SD > > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > > > lagna, Su > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka > lord of > > > > 2nd is > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. > This > > > > is not > > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > > husband > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes > except > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > > > of 8:30 > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > > > Ramesh > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM > which > > > > is more > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > > ca/> ca/> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most > of the > > > > points > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > > > from there > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > > So here > > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > > > Mercury > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad > effects > > > > of 6th > > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, > 3:11 and > > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > > > of Ju > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > > > and 7th > > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less > power in > > > > 7th, and > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > > house. > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > > > for 5th > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E > for 7th > > > > as B and > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same > time its > > > > SD to > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun > has 12 > > > > points > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > > > wife and to > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > > > afresh > > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that > Krushnaji > > > > gave on > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > > > prime > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > > > out. > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so > did I. > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > > > the time > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > > effort to > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > > > in the > > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > > why he > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > > > time is > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > > ca/> ca/> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > > bakshi > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > > of rahu > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest > point for > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i > > dont > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is > > also > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > > samdhari > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 > sep to > > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th > aswell > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house > with -5 > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might > cause > > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn > aspects > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive > factor. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > jay shanders > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a > copy of > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > > honestly > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > > now. can > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 > AM you > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > > and us > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth > time is > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > > lasting > > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be > appreciated?? > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > > your answers. > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > > data. > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > > understand it. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Sir, ohh.. so cant we see navamsa lord and 9th navamsa lord and their position in rasi 5:9 ? jupiter and sun are in 8th and 12th house in rasi. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > How ? > > Ju and Sun are in 3rd house they are not in 5:9? > > Am I seeing something different ? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:46 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Sir, > as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th > lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous > mail. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Yes sir, > > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra. > > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna > and 9th > > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9. > > > > > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st > > house so it > > > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered. > > > > > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who > > are weak > > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage. > > > > > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out > > if this > > > girl has more spending trend. > > > > > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in > > 11th and > > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean > > birth? > > > > > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of > > Mercury and 2 > > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again > confirm > > > that. > > > > > > That is why having many events is important so yes good observation > > on the > > > time of 8:40 AM. > > > > > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna might be > > > different or even the date might be different. > > > > > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007 > > so that > > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th. > > > > > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of > > Venus, > > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or might give > > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception. > > > > > > So again some more rectification might be required. > > > > > > So like that. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > > > somewhere. If > > > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > > > then even > > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in > > > detail > > > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > bakshi > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord > of 2nd > > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > > > > should bring better results ? > > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the > birth > > > > > time may > > > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > ca> ca> > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > ca> ca> > > ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth > time in > > > > > respect of > > > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve > > > is the > > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > > > > delay caused > > > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma > antara > > > > > who is SD > > > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > > > > lagna, Su > > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka > > lord of > > > > > 2nd is > > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 > relationship in > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. > > This > > > > > is not > > > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > > > husband > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes > > except > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the > given time > > > > > of 8:30 > > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, > and yet > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM > > which > > > > > is more > > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> ca/> > > > ca/> ca/> > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most > > of the > > > > > points > > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > > > > from there > > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in > Navamsa. > > > > > So here > > > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th > and from > > > > > Mercury > > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad > > effects > > > > > of 6th > > > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, > > 3:11 and > > > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and > then > > > > of Ju > > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > > > > and 7th > > > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less > > power in > > > > > 7th, and > > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest > significator > > > > > for 5th > > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E > > for 7th > > > > > as B and > > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same > > time its > > > > > SD to > > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun > > has 12 > > > > > points > > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > > > > wife and to > > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and > start > > > > > afresh > > > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that > > Krushnaji > > > > > gave on > > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > > > > prime > > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be > pointed > > > > out. > > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so > > did I. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just > accepting > > > > > the time > > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > > > effort to > > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or > even > > > > in the > > > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > > > why he > > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have > personally > > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > > > > time is > > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> ca/> > > > ca/> ca/> > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > > > bakshi > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > > > of rahu > > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest > > point for > > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i > > > dont > > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is > > > also > > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > > > samdhari > > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is > bad... > > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 > > sep to > > > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th > > aswell > > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house > > with -5 > > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might > > cause > > > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point > irrespective of > > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn > > aspects > > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive > > factor. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > > jay shanders > > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean > to give > > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a > > copy of > > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > > > honestly > > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > > > now. can > > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 > > AM you > > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that > still > > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > > > and us > > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth > > time is > > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart > ???? i > > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > > > lasting > > > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so > much > > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be > > appreciated?? > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > > > your answers. > > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > > > data. > > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > > > understand it. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 I shall wait for Anup and Ramesh and others if they would like to share their thoughts. Here you have to start to apply yourself to go deeper. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:49 PM Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce , " Ash " <kas wrote: > O.K. one more try . here 6th lord is same as lagna lord. its trine to 9th lord... i.e. lord of C and D in house B. house C is the house for result.. same thing with taurus lagna. thanks/regards harjeet > No Harjeet, > > > > Think more on it. Krushnaji has told in short. Study carefully, lagna and > 9th we see so here Ma is in 9th house .. what is special? Why it did not > spoil ? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:10 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Ashji, > although 6th house is D for 9th house.. but its for all lagna. > for scorpio lagna moon is lord of 9th which is nsd to mars 6th lord.. > may be thats the reason.. thats what i can come up with . > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all, > > > > > > > > Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it > spoil > > 9th house results? > > > > What is special about this lagna? > > > > What other lagna would this be applicable to and why? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of Ash > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-) > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > > somewhere. If > > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > > then even > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in > > detail > > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > > > should bring better results ? > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth > > > > time may > > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > > > respect of > > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve > > is the > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > > > delay caused > > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > > > who is SD > > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > > > lagna, Su > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka > lord of > > > > 2nd is > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. > This > > > > is not > > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > > husband > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes > except > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time > > > > of 8:30 > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet > > > > Ramesh > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM > which > > > > is more > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > > ca/> ca/> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most > of the > > > > points > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > > > from there > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > > So here > > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from > > > > Mercury > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad > effects > > > > of 6th > > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, > 3:11 and > > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > > > of Ju > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > > > and 7th > > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less > power in > > > > 7th, and > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > > house. > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > > > for 5th > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E > for 7th > > > > as B and > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same > time its > > > > SD to > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun > has 12 > > > > points > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > > > wife and to > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start > > > > afresh > > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that > Krushnaji > > > > gave on > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > > > prime > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed > > > out. > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so > did I. > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > > > the time > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > > effort to > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even > > > in the > > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > > why he > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > > > time is > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > > ca/> ca/> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > > bakshi > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > > of rahu > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest > point for > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i > > dont > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is > > also > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > > samdhari > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 > sep to > > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th > aswell > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house > with -5 > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might > cause > > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn > aspects > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive > factor. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > jay shanders > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a > copy of > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > > honestly > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > > now. can > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 > AM you > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > > and us > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth > time is > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > > lasting > > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be > appreciated?? > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > > your answers. > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > > data. > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > > understand it. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 No Harjeet you can’t do that. Only Lagna and 9th lord of lagna we check in Rasi and then Navamsa. Then we check Navamsa lagna and 9th lord in NAVAMSA ONLY. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce Dear Sir, ohh.. so cant we see navamsa lord and 9th navamsa lord and their position in rasi 5:9 ? jupiter and sun are in 8th and 12th house in rasi. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > How ? > > Ju and Sun are in 3rd house they are not in 5:9? > > Am I seeing something different ? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:46 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Sir, > as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th > lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous > mail. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Yes sir, > > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra. > > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna > and 9th > > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9. > > > > > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st > > house so it > > > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered. > > > > > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who > > are weak > > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage. > > > > > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out > > if this > > > girl has more spending trend. > > > > > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in > > 11th and > > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean > > birth? > > > > > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of > > Mercury and 2 > > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again > confirm > > > that. > > > > > > That is why having many events is important so yes good observation > > on the > > > time of 8:40 AM. > > > > > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna might be > > > different or even the date might be different. > > > > > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007 > > so that > > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th. > > > > > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of > > Venus, > > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or might give > > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception. > > > > > > So again some more rectification might be required. > > > > > > So like that. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > > > somewhere. If > > > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > > > then even > > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in > > > detail > > > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > bakshi > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator. > > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very > > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord > of 2nd > > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too > > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord > > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems > > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb.. > > > > should bring better results ? > > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if > > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the > birth > > > > > time may > > > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > ca> ca> > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > ca> ca> > > ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth > time in > > > > > respect of > > > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve > > > is the > > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > > > > delay caused > > > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma > antara > > > > > who is SD > > > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > > > > lagna, Su > > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka > > lord of > > > > > 2nd is > > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 > relationship in > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. > > This > > > > > is not > > > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > > > husband > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes > > except > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the > given time > > > > > of 8:30 > > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, > and yet > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM > > which > > > > > is more > > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> ca/> > > > ca/> ca/> > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most > > of the > > > > > points > > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > > > > from there > > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in > Navamsa. > > > > > So here > > > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th > and from > > > > > Mercury > > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad > > effects > > > > > of 6th > > > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, > > 3:11 and > > > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and > then > > > > of Ju > > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord > > > > > and 7th > > > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less > > power in > > > > > 7th, and > > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest > significator > > > > > for 5th > > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E > > for 7th > > > > > as B and > > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same > > time its > > > > > SD to > > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun > > has 12 > > > > > points > > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > > > > wife and to > > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and > start > > > > > afresh > > > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that > > Krushnaji > > > > > gave on > > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a > > > > prime > > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be > pointed > > > > out. > > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so > > did I. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just > accepting > > > > > the time > > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > > > effort to > > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or > even > > > > in the > > > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > > > why he > > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have > personally > > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth > > > > time is > > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> ca/> > > > ca/> ca/> > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > > > bakshi > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > Re: need advice-current > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > > > of rahu > > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest > > point for > > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i > > > dont > > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is > > > also > > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > > > samdhari > > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is > bad... > > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 > > sep to > > > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th > > aswell > > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house > > with -5 > > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might > > cause > > > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point > irrespective of > > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn > > aspects > > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive > > factor. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > > jay shanders > > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean > to give > > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a > > copy of > > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > > > honestly > > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > > > now. can > > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 > > AM you > > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that > still > > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > > > and us > > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth > > time is > > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart > ???? i > > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > > > lasting > > > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so > much > > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be > > appreciated?? > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > > > your answers. > > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > > > data. > > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > > > understand it. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Harjeet, I AM BECOMING MORE CURIOUS NOW. I DNT THINK THIS CLD BE SO. PLZ WRITE ARCHIVE MAIL NUMBER IF YOU HAVE:) REGARDS ANUP harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: Dear Sir,ohh.. so cant we see navamsa lord and 9th navamsa lord and theirposition in rasi 5:9 ?jupiter and sun are in 8th and 12th house in rasi.thanks/regardsharjeet , "Ash" <kas wrote:>> How ?> > Ju and Sun are in 3rd house they are not in 5:9?> > Am I seeing something different ?> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet> bakshi> Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:46 PM> > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > Dear Sir,> as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th> lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous> mail.> thanks/regards> harjeet> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> >> > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents > > [astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ]> On Behalf Of harjeet> > bakshi> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents > > Subject: Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > > > Yes sir,> > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra.> > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna> and 9th> > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9.> > > > > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st> > house so it> > > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered.> > > > > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who> > are weak> > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage.> > > > > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out> > if this> > > girl has more spending trend.> > > > > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in> > 11th and> > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean> > birth?> > > > > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of> > Mercury and 2> > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again> confirm> > > that.> > > > > > That is why having many events is important so yes good observation> > on the> > > time of 8:40 AM.> > > > > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagnamight be> > > different or even the date might be different.> > > > > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007> > so that> > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th.> > > > > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of> > Venus,> > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give ormight give> > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception.> > > > > > So again some more rectification might be required.> > > > > > So like that.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.<http://www.ashtro.ca>> ca> ca>> http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > [astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > On Behalf Of harjeet> > > bakshi> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji,> > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.> > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.> > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi> > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.> > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong> > > somewhere. If> > > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.> > > > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful> > > then even> > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computingmarriage in> > > detail> > > > using both times. This will give u good practice.> > > > > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>> > ca> ca>> > http://www.ashtro.> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>ca> ca>> ca> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > On Behalf Of harjeet> > > > bakshi> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM> > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > Re: need advice-currentdivorce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,> > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?> > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerfulsignificator.> > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiterhaving very> > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.> > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord> of 2nd> > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th> > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.> > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.> > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord'saspect too> > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.> > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and alsoaspects lord> > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.> > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have createdproblems> > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?> > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end orfeb..> > > > should bring better results ?> > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of yourwife.. if> > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the> > > > expenditure is too much from her side ?> > > > thanks/regards> > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > > "harjeet bakshi"> > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mishraji,> > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.> > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > > "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based onKAS.> > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the> birth> > > > > time may> > > > > > still be wrong. :-)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca>> > > ca> ca>> > > http://www.ashtro.> > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>> ca> ca>> > ca> > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > > On Behalf Of> > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > > RE: Re: needadvice-current> > > > divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,> > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth> time in> > > > > respect of> > > > > > his spouse are followings.> > > > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve.Undoubtedly Ve> > > is the> > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is alsocombined> > > > > delay caused> > > > > > by Sa and Ju both.> > > > > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.> > > > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma> antara> > > > > who is SD> > > > > > to Mo.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because7th from> > > > > lagna, Su> > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.> > > > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.> > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka> > lord of> > > > > 2nd is> > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10> relationship in> > > > > navamsa.> > > > > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.> > > > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.> > This> > > > > is not> > > > > > present in her husband chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tallywith her> > > > husband> > > > > > chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.> > > > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes> > except> > > > > > navamsa.> > > > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the> given time> > > > > of 8:30> > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus,> and yet> > > > > Ramesh> > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.> > > > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM> > which> > > > > is more> > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be> wrong.> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/>ca/> ca/>> > > ca/> ca/>> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > > On Behalf Of Ash> > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > > RE: Re: needadvice-current> > > > divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most> > of the> > > > > points> > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.> > > > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10thhouse. So> > > > > from there> > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in> Navamsa. > > > > > So here> > > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th> and from> > > > > Mercury> > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad> > effects> > > > > of 6th> > > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,> > 3:11 and> > > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and> then> > > > of Ju> > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to6th lord> > > > > and 7th> > > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less> > power in> > > > > 7th, and> > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th> > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest> significator> > > > > for 5th> > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.> > > > > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E> > for 7th> > > > > as B and> > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same> > time its> > > > > SD to> > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.> > > > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun> > has 12> > > > > points> > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcilewith his> > > > > wife and to> > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and> start> > > > > afresh> > > > > > for the child.> > > > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.> > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.> > > > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that> > Krushnaji> > > > > gave on> > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife'schart is a> > > > prime> > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be> pointed> > > > out.> > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so> > did I. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just> accepting> > > > > the time> > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper> > > > > effort to> > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or> even> > > > in the> > > > > > ball park.> > > > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate thereason on> > > why he> > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have> personally> > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if thebirth> > > > time is> > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/>ca/> ca/>> > > ca/> ca/>> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > > On Behalf Of harjeet> > > > > > bakshi> > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > > Re: need advice-current> > divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > i am just learning KAS...> > > > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra> > > of rahu> > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.> > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest> > point for> > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage tobreak(i> > > dont> > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but againrahu is> > > also> > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.> > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..> > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being> > > samdhari> > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.> > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is> bad...> > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004> > sep to> > > > > > 2006 apr.> > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th> > aswell> > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.> > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house> > with -5> > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.> > > > > > sun in 7th house.> > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might> > cause> > > > > > you to take hasty steps.> > > > > > cant go more as out of time..> > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point> irrespective of> > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn> > aspects> > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong> > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive> > factor.> > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > > > <%40>> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > > > > jay shanders> > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh> > > > > > > how are you?/> > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply> > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean> to give> > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much foradvice and> > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding> > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a> > copy of> > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i> > > honestly> > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right> > > now. can> > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30> > AM you> > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that> still> > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam goingthrough the> > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through> > > and us> > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth> > time is> > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart> ???? i> > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long> > > lasting> > > > > > marriage ??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping aperson> > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so> much> > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be> > appreciated??> > > > > > > thank you> > > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> > > > > > > your answers.> > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of> > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> > > > > > > data.> > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts> > > > > > > will be useless.> > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> > > > > > > understand it.> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > > > namaste> > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??> > > > > > > > thank you> > > > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > > > NAMASTE> > > > > > > > Dear Guruji> > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my> > > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > > > > > > > as to my marriage-> > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Thanks for that Ashji. i thought we can do it either way. anyway.. so for conception cant happen in the planet having low points even if there is blessing in the chart ? thanks/regards harjeet P.S. my friend from ahmedabad whose chart i am working on... if it needs rectification got a baby girl on 17th this month. his conception also occured in antra of mars which had very low points for 5th and 12th house. so his birth time seems to be pretty vague too.. , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > No Harjeet you can't do that. > > > > Only Lagna and 9th lord of lagna we check in Rasi and then Navamsa. Then we > check Navamsa lagna and 9th lord in NAVAMSA ONLY. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:52 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Sir, > ohh.. so cant we see navamsa lord and 9th navamsa lord and their > position in rasi 5:9 ? > jupiter and sun are in 8th and 12th house in rasi. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > How ? > > > > Ju and Sun are in 3rd house they are not in 5:9? > > > > Am I seeing something different ? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:46 PM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th > > lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous > > mail. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes sir, > > > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra. > > > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna > > and 9th > > > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9. > > > > > > > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st > > > house so it > > > > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered. > > > > > > > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who > > > are weak > > > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage. > > > > > > > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out > > > if this > > > > girl has more spending trend. > > > > > > > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in > > > 11th and > > > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean > > > birth? > > > > > > > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of > > > Mercury and 2 > > > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again > > confirm > > > > that. > > > > > > > > That is why having many events is important so yes good observation > > > on the > > > > time of 8:40 AM. > > > > > > > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna > might be > > > > different or even the date might be different. > > > > > > > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007 > > > so that > > > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th. > > > > > > > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of > > > Venus, > > > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or > might give > > > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception. > > > > > > > > So again some more rectification might be required. > > > > > > > > So like that. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > bakshi > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > > > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > > > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > > > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > > > > somewhere. If > > > > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > > > > then even > > > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing > marriage in > > > > detail > > > > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > > > > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > ca> ca> > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > ca> ca> > > ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > > bakshi > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful > significator. > > > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter > having very > > > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord > > of 2nd > > > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's > aspect too > > > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also > aspects lord > > > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created > problems > > > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or > feb.. > > > > > should bring better results ? > > > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your > wife.. if > > > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > > > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on > KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the > > birth > > > > > > time may > > > > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> > > > > ca> ca> > > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > > ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > RE: Re: need > advice-current > > > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth > > time in > > > > > > respect of > > > > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. > Undoubtedly Ve > > > > is the > > > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also > combined > > > > > > delay caused > > > > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma > > antara > > > > > > who is SD > > > > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because > 7th from > > > > > > lagna, Su > > > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka > > > lord of > > > > > > 2nd is > > > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 > > relationship in > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. > > > This > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally > with her > > > > > husband > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes > > > except > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the > > given time > > > > > > of 8:30 > > > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, > > and yet > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM > > > which > > > > > > is more > > > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > > > ca/> ca/> > > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > RE: Re: need > advice-current > > > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most > > > of the > > > > > > points > > > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th > house. So > > > > > > from there > > > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in > > Navamsa. > > > > > > So here > > > > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th > > and from > > > > > > Mercury > > > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad > > > effects > > > > > > of 6th > > > > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, > > > 3:11 and > > > > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and > > then > > > > > of Ju > > > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to > 6th lord > > > > > > and 7th > > > > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less > > > power in > > > > > > 7th, and > > > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest > > significator > > > > > > for 5th > > > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E > > > for 7th > > > > > > as B and > > > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same > > > time its > > > > > > SD to > > > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun > > > has 12 > > > > > > points > > > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile > with his > > > > > > wife and to > > > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and > > start > > > > > > afresh > > > > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > gave on > > > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's > chart is a > > > > > prime > > > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be > > pointed > > > > > out. > > > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so > > > did I. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just > > accepting > > > > > > the time > > > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > > > > effort to > > > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or > > even > > > > > in the > > > > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the > reason on > > > > why he > > > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have > > personally > > > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the > birth > > > > > time is > > > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > > > ca/> ca/> > > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > > > > bakshi > > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > Re: need advice-current > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > > > > of rahu > > > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest > > > point for > > > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to > break(i > > > > dont > > > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again > rahu is > > > > also > > > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is > > bad... > > > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 > > > sep to > > > > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th > > > aswell > > > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house > > > with -5 > > > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might > > > cause > > > > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point > > irrespective of > > > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn > > > aspects > > > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive > > > factor. > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > > > jay shanders > > > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean > > to give > > > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for > advice and > > > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a > > > copy of > > > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > > > > honestly > > > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > > > > now. can > > > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 > > > AM you > > > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that > > still > > > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going > through the > > > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > > > > and us > > > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth > > > time is > > > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart > > ???? i > > > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > > > > lasting > > > > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a > person > > > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so > > much > > > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be > > > appreciated?? > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > > > > your answers. > > > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > > > > data. > > > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > > > > understand it. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Anup, REGARDING WHAT? REGARDS harjeet , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > I AM BECOMING MORE CURIOUS NOW. > I DNT THINK THIS CLD BE SO. > PLZ WRITE ARCHIVE MAIL NUMBER IF YOU HAVE:) > > REGARDS > ANUP > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Dear Sir, > ohh.. so cant we see navamsa lord and 9th navamsa lord and their > position in rasi 5:9 ? > jupiter and sun are in 8th and 12th house in rasi. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > How ? > > > > Ju and Sun are in 3rd house they are not in 5:9? > > > > Am I seeing something different ? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:46 PM > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th > > lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous > > mail. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents , > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents ] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes sir, > > > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra. > > > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna > > and 9th > > > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9. > > > > > > > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st > > > house so it > > > > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered. > > > > > > > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who > > > are weak > > > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage. > > > > > > > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out > > > if this > > > > girl has more spending trend. > > > > > > > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in > > > 11th and > > > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean > > > birth? > > > > > > > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of > > > Mercury and 2 > > > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again > > confirm > > > > that. > > > > > > > > That is why having many events is important so yes good observation > > > on the > > > > time of 8:40 AM. > > > > > > > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna > might be > > > > different or even the date might be different. > > > > > > > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007 > > > so that > > > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th. > > > > > > > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of > > > Venus, > > > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or > might give > > > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception. > > > > > > > > So again some more rectification might be required. > > > > > > > > So like that. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > ca> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > bakshi > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > > > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > > > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > > > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > > > > somewhere. If > > > > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > > > > then even > > > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing > marriage in > > > > detail > > > > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > > > > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > ca> ca> > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > > ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > > bakshi > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful > significator. > > > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter > having very > > > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord > > of 2nd > > > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's > aspect too > > > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also > aspects lord > > > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created > problems > > > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or > feb.. > > > > > should bring better results ? > > > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your > wife.. if > > > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > > > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on > KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the > > birth > > > > > > time may > > > > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > ca> ca> > > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > > ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > RE: Re: need > advice-current > > > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth > > time in > > > > > > respect of > > > > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. > Undoubtedly Ve > > > > is the > > > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also > combined > > > > > > delay caused > > > > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma > > antara > > > > > > who is SD > > > > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because > 7th from > > > > > > lagna, Su > > > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka > > > lord of > > > > > > 2nd is > > > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 > > relationship in > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. > > > This > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally > with her > > > > > husband > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes > > > except > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the > > given time > > > > > > of 8:30 > > > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, > > and yet > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM > > > which > > > > > > is more > > > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > > > ca/> ca/> > > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > RE: Re: need > advice-current > > > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most > > > of the > > > > > > points > > > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th > house. So > > > > > > from there > > > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in > > Navamsa. > > > > > > So here > > > > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th > > and from > > > > > > Mercury > > > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad > > > effects > > > > > > of 6th > > > > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, > > > 3:11 and > > > > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and > > then > > > > > of Ju > > > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to > 6th lord > > > > > > and 7th > > > > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less > > > power in > > > > > > 7th, and > > > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest > > significator > > > > > > for 5th > > > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E > > > for 7th > > > > > > as B and > > > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same > > > time its > > > > > > SD to > > > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun > > > has 12 > > > > > > points > > > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile > with his > > > > > > wife and to > > > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and > > start > > > > > > afresh > > > > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > gave on > > > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's > chart is a > > > > > prime > > > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be > > pointed > > > > > out. > > > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so > > > did I. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just > > accepting > > > > > > the time > > > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > > > > effort to > > > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or > > even > > > > > in the > > > > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the > reason on > > > > why he > > > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have > > personally > > > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the > birth > > > > > time is > > > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > > > ca/> ca/> > > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > > > > bakshi > > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > Re: need advice-current > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > > > > of rahu > > > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest > > > point for > > > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to > break(i > > > > dont > > > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again > rahu is > > > > also > > > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is > > bad... > > > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 > > > sep to > > > > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th > > > aswell > > > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house > > > with -5 > > > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might > > > cause > > > > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point > > irrespective of > > > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn > > > aspects > > > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive > > > factor. > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > > > jay shanders > > > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean > > to give > > > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for > advice and > > > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a > > > copy of > > > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > > > > honestly > > > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > > > > now. can > > > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 > > > AM you > > > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that > > still > > > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going > through the > > > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > > > > and us > > > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth > > > time is > > > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart > > ???? i > > > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > > > > lasting > > > > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a > person > > > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so > > much > > > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be > > > appreciated?? > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > > > > your answers. > > > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > > > > data. > > > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > > > > understand it. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Harjeet, Your friend chart is male and here its female chart and that is why I am seeing 11th. Also Ra is in 11th and Me is in 12th and Ma is in 9th aspecting Me in the case of the wife of the native. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 19, 2007 4:13 PM Re: need advice-current divorce Thanks for that Ashji. i thought we can do it either way. anyway.. so for conception cant happen in the planet having low points even if there is blessing in the chart ? thanks/regards harjeet P.S. my friend from ahmedabad whose chart i am working on... if it needs rectification got a baby girl on 17th this month. his conception also occured in antra of mars which had very low points for 5th and 12th house. so his birth time seems to be pretty vague too.. , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > No Harjeet you can't do that. > > > > Only Lagna and 9th lord of lagna we check in Rasi and then Navamsa. Then we > check Navamsa lagna and 9th lord in NAVAMSA ONLY. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:52 PM > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > Dear Sir, > ohh.. so cant we see navamsa lord and 9th navamsa lord and their > position in rasi 5:9 ? > jupiter and sun are in 8th and 12th house in rasi. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > How ? > > > > Ju and Sun are in 3rd house they are not in 5:9? > > > > Am I seeing something different ? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:46 PM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th > > lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous > > mail. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > bakshi > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes sir, > > > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra. > > > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna > > and 9th > > > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9. > > > > > > > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st > > > house so it > > > > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered. > > > > > > > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who > > > are weak > > > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage. > > > > > > > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out > > > if this > > > > girl has more spending trend. > > > > > > > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in > > > 11th and > > > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean > > > birth? > > > > > > > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of > > > Mercury and 2 > > > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again > > confirm > > > > that. > > > > > > > > That is why having many events is important so yes good observation > > > on the > > > > time of 8:40 AM. > > > > > > > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna > might be > > > > different or even the date might be different. > > > > > > > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007 > > > so that > > > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th. > > > > > > > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of > > > Venus, > > > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or > might give > > > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception. > > > > > > > > So again some more rectification might be required. > > > > > > > > So like that. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > bakshi > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e. > > > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am. > > > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi > > > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong > > > > somewhere. If > > > > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7. > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful > > > > then even > > > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing > marriage in > > > > detail > > > > > using both times. This will give u good practice. > > > > > > > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > ca> ca> > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > ca> ca> > > ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > > bakshi > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir, > > > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ? > > > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful > significator. > > > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter > having very > > > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house. > > > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord > > of 2nd > > > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th > > > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points. > > > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra. > > > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's > aspect too > > > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong. > > > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also > aspects lord > > > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house. > > > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created > problems > > > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.? > > > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or > feb.. > > > > > should bring better results ? > > > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your > wife.. if > > > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the > > > > > expenditure is too much from her side ? > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mishraji, > > > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on > KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the > > birth > > > > > > time may > > > > > > > still be wrong. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> > > > > ca> ca> > > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > > ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > RE: Re: need > advice-current > > > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth > > time in > > > > > > respect of > > > > > > > his spouse are followings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. > Undoubtedly Ve > > > > is the > > > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also > combined > > > > > > delay caused > > > > > > > by Sa and Ju both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma > > antara > > > > > > who is SD > > > > > > > to Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because > 7th from > > > > > > lagna, Su > > > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka > > > lord of > > > > > > 2nd is > > > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 > > relationship in > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. > > > This > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > present in her husband chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally > with her > > > > > husband > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes > > > except > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the > > given time > > > > > > of 8:30 > > > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, > > and yet > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM > > > which > > > > > > is more > > > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > > > ca/> ca/> > > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > RE: Re: need > advice-current > > > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most > > > of the > > > > > > points > > > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th > house. So > > > > > > from there > > > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in > > Navamsa. > > > > > > So here > > > > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th > > and from > > > > > > Mercury > > > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad > > > effects > > > > > > of 6th > > > > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, > > > 3:11 and > > > > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and > > then > > > > > of Ju > > > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to > 6th lord > > > > > > and 7th > > > > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less > > > power in > > > > > > 7th, and > > > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest > > significator > > > > > > for 5th > > > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E > > > for 7th > > > > > > as B and > > > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same > > > time its > > > > > > SD to > > > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun > > > has 12 > > > > > > points > > > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile > with his > > > > > > wife and to > > > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and > > start > > > > > > afresh > > > > > > > for the child. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > gave on > > > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's > chart is a > > > > > prime > > > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be > > pointed > > > > > out. > > > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so > > > did I. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just > > accepting > > > > > > the time > > > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper > > > > > > effort to > > > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or > > even > > > > > in the > > > > > > > ball park. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the > reason on > > > > why he > > > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have > > personally > > > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the > birth > > > > > time is > > > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > ca/> ca/> > > > > ca/> ca/> > > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > > > > > > bakshi > > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > <%40> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > > > Re: need advice-current > > > divorce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra > > > > of rahu > > > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest > > > point for > > > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to > break(i > > > > dont > > > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again > rahu is > > > > also > > > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is > > bad... > > > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 > > > sep to > > > > > > > 2006 apr. > > > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th > > > aswell > > > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house > > > with -5 > > > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > > > > > sun in 7th house. > > > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might > > > cause > > > > > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > > > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point > > irrespective of > > > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn > > > aspects > > > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive > > > factor. > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > > > > jay shanders > > > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > > > > > how are you?/ > > > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean > > to give > > > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for > advice and > > > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a > > > copy of > > > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i > > > > honestly > > > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right > > > > now. can > > > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 > > > AM you > > > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that > > still > > > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going > through the > > > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through > > > > and us > > > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth > > > time is > > > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart > > ???? i > > > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long > > > > lasting > > > > > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a > person > > > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so > > much > > > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be > > > appreciated?? > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > > > > > your answers. > > > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > > > > > data. > > > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > > > > > will be useless. > > > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > > > > > understand it. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > namaste > > > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear Ashji/Mishraji, If we take birth time to 9:03. we get libra navamsa here. so again lord of lagna and 9th in navamsa is 5:9 in navamsa. now antra of jupiter starts on 26th jan 2006. taking 13 days difference or may be if the child was born before 9 months.. anyway i think its marginal difference. i call it close call. so conceive and birth both in jupiter antra. regarding marriage problems, it should have started in the antra of mars jan 2005 to jan 2006. and this might have worsen in antra of jupiter which has low points for 7th house. feedback from Amir would be appreciated. thanks/regards harjeet , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Ash,Anup, Harjeet and all, > Another reason for the doubt in her birth time is the period of separation on 9 Mar 2007. > The native was running through 2nd lord antara of Jup. This period may give worries and strain but separation I could not find in this antara. > The separation took place in second sector of Ju antara. > When you analyse the 2nd house, its karak is Mo who is in house B of 7th. > The Mo is strongly placed in 7th with 6 bindus and in the 10th place from Sa ,LoD for 7th.Therefore aspect of Sa on Mo may not harm the native for 7th house matter. > On the contrary Mo being powerful in 7th, LoA for 2nd may influence the native for separation. Mo will have its malefic aspect on lagna. > So Mo antara may give either separation or divorce. But it is not so. > Ju is not SD to either Mo or Me or Ve. These antaras are late for the result of 2nd house matter. > I could not understand how Ju separated them. Of course Ju is LoA for 7th and LoB for 2nd. Ju is weak in WS for 2nd and 7th. > So I do not think Ju antara should result in separation for this couple as per her chart. > The timing of child birth on 8 Sep 2006 is in line.She might have conceived in the month of Dec 2005 during Ra-Ma. > But the chart shows delay in conception but she conceived in second sector instead of third sector in Ma antara. Ma is in 9th house > So these are the points where I found birth time of this female native is incorrect. > If I am wrong with my analysis,please correct me. > This detail explanation is for my learning. > With best regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Dear Ashji, > Amir has more points in 7th house compared to lagna.. so his wife > should be considered somewhat stubborn as the points are 29 and not > more than 30. > again my same question : this should be reflected in the lagna of > Amir's wife ? should lagna be more than 28 points ? > so can we judge if time is correct or not from this criteria too ? > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , jay shanders > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > NAMASTE > > Dear fellow member, > > thank you so much for taking the time to analyze my and my wifes > charts as i honeslty dont know which birth time 8:30 AM or 9:36 AM is > accurate for my wife but my birth time of 7:15 PM is accurate so what > would be the over all outcome as to my current divorce situation- will > the divorce go though and us divorceed with my chancea or reuniting > afterwards ????? any 2nd marriage for either ?? or will the divorce > not happen and us reuntiing and staying married?? i just want to know > what to really expect as to my current divorce proceedings?? > > since my birth time is accurate then all my events in life will > fall into place right?? what can i expect as to my life events as to > now and the future in terms of marriage ??? i would appreciate all > advice possible. > > GOD bless > > amir > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > I am gettind Asc 6Sc38. > > Your explaination so nice. > > But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > respect of his spouse are followings. > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is > the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > delay caused by Sa and Ju both. > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > who is SD to Mo. > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord > of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 > relationship in navamsa. > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. > This is not present in her husband chart. > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > husband chart. > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes > except navamsa. > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the > given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of > Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth. > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM > which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might > be wrong. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of > the points are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in > Navamsa. So here results are more severe. > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and > from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset > bad effects of 6th lord. > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 > and 2:12. > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th > lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power > in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in > 7th house. > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for > 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the > same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has > 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones > and start afresh for the child. > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that > Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's > wife's chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using > KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time > of his wife and so did I. > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes > proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting > right or even in the ball park. > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > why he questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time > is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > bakshi > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > 2006 apr. > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > sun in 7th house. > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > you to take hasty steps. > > cant go more as out of time.. > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , jay shanders > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > how are you?/ > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting > > marriage ?? > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > thank you > > > amir > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > Dear Amir, > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > your answers. > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > data. > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > will be useless. > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > understand it. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > namaste > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > thank you > > > > amir > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > NAMASTE > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > wife and daughter > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > proceeding status. > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > controling parents > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > divorce becase of > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > marriage and she too > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > her parents are > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > me so she says > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > else. i have tried > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > will my marriage > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > wfie getting back > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > help i can get > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > > thank you > > > > God bless > > > > amir > > > > > > > > amir patel > > > > biodata- > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > bijal patel > > > > biodata > > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Dear fellow members namaste marriage was on june 1 2002, engagement was sept 2000, we started having problems in ending of 2003 with ups and down since then, since 2004 we have has 5 short separations with my leaving 2 time anc coming back and then me leaving 3 times and coming back becase of severe fights, as there is nothing serious between us but my inlaws cause great stress and unhappiness by constant interfering and control as t my wife , currently my wife did not want divorce and she had changed her mind as to saving our marriage but her parents want her to go through with the divorce even though we hava a 1 year old daughter. becase of her parents influence my wife does not want to go against them and thus proceed with the divorce. as i have tried vey hard to convince my wife but now she says that she is not going to change her mind as to the divorce as we dont have much time becase in my state divorce can occur after 6 months of separation. we have been separated since march 9 2007. please all member can you tell me as to what i should expect will happen- will we stay married and reunite or will my wife go thorugh with the divorce and thus us divorced?? if divorce does occor then are any chances of reuntiing after since we have a daughter together so will my wife remarry ?? my birth date is accurate so what about my life events as to marriage and future?? please help me as all adive and predictions would be appreciated if anyone needs any more information please let me know, as i need all the help i can get to save my marriage. GOD bless amirharjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: Dear Ashji/Mishraji,If we take birth time to 9:03. we get libra navamsa here. so again lord of lagna and 9th in navamsais 5:9 in navamsa.now antra of jupiter starts on 26th jan 2006. taking 13 daysdifference or may be if the child was born before 9 months.. anyway ithink its marginal difference. i call it close call. so conceive andbirth both in jupiter antra.regarding marriage problems, it should have started in the antra ofmars jan 2005 to jan 2006.and this might have worsen in antra of jupiter which has low pointsfor 7th house.feedback from Amir would be appreciated.thanks/regardsharjeet , ramesh mishra<aarceemastro2002 wrote:>> Dear Ash,Anup, Harjeet and all,> Another reason for the doubt in her birth time is the period ofseparation on 9 Mar 2007.> The native was running through 2nd lord antara of Jup. This periodmay give worries and strain but separation I could not find in thisantara.> The separation took place in second sector of Ju antara.> When you analyse the 2nd house, its karak is Mo who is in house Bof 7th.> The Mo is strongly placed in 7th with 6 bindus and in the 10thplace from Sa ,LoD for 7th.Therefore aspect of Sa on Mo may not harmthe native for 7th house matter.> On the contrary Mo being powerful in 7th, LoA for 2nd mayinfluence the native for separation. Mo will have its malefic aspecton lagna.> So Mo antara may give either separation or divorce. But it is not so.> Ju is not SD to either Mo or Me or Ve. These antaras are late forthe result of 2nd house matter.> I could not understand how Ju separated them. Of course Ju is LoAfor 7th and LoB for 2nd. Ju is weak in WS for 2nd and 7th.> So I do not think Ju antara should result in separation for thiscouple as per her chart.> The timing of child birth on 8 Sep 2006 is in line.She might haveconceived in the month of Dec 2005 during Ra-Ma.> But the chart shows delay in conception but she conceived insecond sector instead of third sector in Ma antara. Ma is in 9th house> So these are the points where I found birth time of this femalenative is incorrect.> If I am wrong with my analysis,please correct me.> This detail explanation is for my learning.> With best regards.> Ramesh Mishra> > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> Dear Ashji,> Amir has more points in 7th house compared to lagna.. so his wife> should be considered somewhat stubborn as the points are 29 and not> more than 30.> again my same question : this should be reflected in the lagna of> Amir's wife ? should lagna be more than 28 points ?> so can we judge if time is correct or not from this criteria too ?> thanks/regards> harjeet> > , jay shanders> <phillyanyone@> wrote:> >> > NAMASTE> > Dear fellow member,> > thank you so much for taking the time to analyze my and my wifes> charts as i honeslty dont know which birth time 8:30 AM or 9:36 AM is> accurate for my wife but my birth time of 7:15 PM is accurate so what> would be the over all outcome as to my current divorce situation- will> the divorce go though and us divorceed with my chancea or reuniting> afterwards ????? any 2nd marriage for either ?? or will the divorce> not happen and us reuntiing and staying married?? i just want to know> what to really expect as to my current divorce proceedings??> > since my birth time is accurate then all my events in life will> fall into place right?? what can i expect as to my life events as to> now and the future in terms of marriage ??? i would appreciate all> advice possible.> > GOD bless> > amir> > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > Dear Ramesh,> > > > I am gettind Asc 6Sc38.> > Your explaination so nice.> > But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned.> > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,> > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in> respect of his spouse are followings.> > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is> the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined> delay caused by Sa and Ju both.> > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.> > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara> who is SD to Mo.> > Ma is also 6th lord.> > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from> lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.> > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.> > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.> > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord> of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10> relationship in navamsa.> > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.> > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.> > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.> This is not present in her husband chart.> > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her> husband chart.> > This may be due to wrong birth time.> > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes> except navamsa.> > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:> > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the> given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of> Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth.> > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM> which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might> be wrong.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash> > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM> > > > RE: Re: need advice-currentdivorce> > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of> the points are less in 7th house so results are showing.> > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So> from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in> Navamsa. So here results are more severe. > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and> from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset> bad effects of 6th lord. > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11> and 2:12. > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then> of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th> lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power> in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in> 7th house. > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator> for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve.> > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for> 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the> same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.> > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has> 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his> wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones> and start afresh for the child.> > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.> > Otherwise it's very difficult.> > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that> Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's> wife's chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using> KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time> of his wife and so did I. > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting> the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes> proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting> right or even in the ball park.> > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on> why he questioned the authenticity of birth time.> > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally> experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time> is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet> bakshi> > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM> > > > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > Dear Amir,> > i am just learning KAS...> > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu> > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.> > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for> > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont> > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also> > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.> > Ashji please guide on this one..> > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari> > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.> > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...> > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to> > 2006 apr.> > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell> > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.> > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5> > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.> > sun in 7th house.> > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause> > you to take hasty steps.> > cant go more as out of time..> > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of> > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects> > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong> > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > , jay shanders> > <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr. ramesh> > > how are you?/> > > thank you so much for your reply> > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give> > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and> > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding> > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of> > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly> > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can> > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you> > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still> > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the> > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us> > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is> > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i> > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting> > marriage ??> > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person> > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much> > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated??> > > thank you> > > amir> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > Dear Amir,> > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> > > your answers.> > > I had asked you before also the correctness of> > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> > > data.> > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts> > > will be useless.> > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> > > understand it.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > namaste> > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > > > reunite with me after it ??> > > > thank you> > > > amir> > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > Dear Amir,> > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > > > the month of Feb/2008.> > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > NAMASTE> > > > Dear Guruji> > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > > > wife and daughter > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > > > proceeding status. > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > > > controling parents > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > > > divorce becase of > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > > > weeks going by, i > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > > > marriage and she too > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > > > her parents are > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > > > me so she says > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > > > else. i have tried > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > > > married for 5 years, > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > > > will my marriage > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my> > > > wfie getting back > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > > > help i can get > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > > > as to my marriage-> > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > > thank you> > > > God bless> > > > amir> > > > > > > > amir patel> > > > biodata-> > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > > bijal patel> > > > biodata> > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 dear fellow members my wife bijal graduated with a pharmacy degree on may 19 2004 and is financially successful and iam a medical school graduate struggling in my medical career and currently in school doing nuclear medicine which i will finish next august 2008, this is one of the many reasons why my inlaws want to break our marriage becase my wife make veyr good money and iam struggling in my career, also they want to take me our of her life becase of selfish greed, they want to be dependent on her money, they can divorce her and she lives with them with our daughter and works while my mother inlaw raises our daughter. they dont in any way want my wife to come back to me and save our marriage and unfortunatly my wife never stand up to her parents and tells them what she wants so she is doign what they force her to. i was told before that neither me nor my wife have divorce or 2nd marriage and i should not worry at all that even though iam in current divorce prceeding,, there will be no signification for the divorce to go through thus we will reunite. so please can anymore confirm this. i really want to save my marriage and need any help or advice i can get about my life events and thus my wife too >> my daughter is Divya and she was born on september 8, 2006. GOD bless amirharjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: Dear Ashji/Mishraji,If we take birth time to 9:03. we get libra navamsa here. so again lord of lagna and 9th in navamsais 5:9 in navamsa.now antra of jupiter starts on 26th jan 2006. taking 13 daysdifference or may be if the child was born before 9 months.. anyway ithink its marginal difference. i call it close call. so conceive andbirth both in jupiter antra.regarding marriage problems, it should have started in the antra ofmars jan 2005 to jan 2006.and this might have worsen in antra of jupiter which has low pointsfor 7th house.feedback from Amir would be appreciated.thanks/regardsharjeet , ramesh mishra<aarceemastro2002 wrote:>> Dear Ash,Anup, Harjeet and all,> Another reason for the doubt in her birth time is the period ofseparation on 9 Mar 2007.> The native was running through 2nd lord antara of Jup. This periodmay give worries and strain but separation I could not find in thisantara.> The separation took place in second sector of Ju antara.> When you analyse the 2nd house, its karak is Mo who is in house Bof 7th.> The Mo is strongly placed in 7th with 6 bindus and in the 10thplace from Sa ,LoD for 7th.Therefore aspect of Sa on Mo may not harmthe native for 7th house matter.> On the contrary Mo being powerful in 7th, LoA for 2nd mayinfluence the native for separation. Mo will have its malefic aspecton lagna.> So Mo antara may give either separation or divorce. But it is not so.> Ju is not SD to either Mo or Me or Ve. These antaras are late forthe result of 2nd house matter.> I could not understand how Ju separated them. Of course Ju is LoAfor 7th and LoB for 2nd. Ju is weak in WS for 2nd and 7th.> So I do not think Ju antara should result in separation for thiscouple as per her chart.> The timing of child birth on 8 Sep 2006 is in line.She might haveconceived in the month of Dec 2005 during Ra-Ma.> But the chart shows delay in conception but she conceived insecond sector instead of third sector in Ma antara. Ma is in 9th house> So these are the points where I found birth time of this femalenative is incorrect.> If I am wrong with my analysis,please correct me.> This detail explanation is for my learning.> With best regards.> Ramesh Mishra> > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> Dear Ashji,> Amir has more points in 7th house compared to lagna.. so his wife> should be considered somewhat stubborn as the points are 29 and not> more than 30.> again my same question : this should be reflected in the lagna of> Amir's wife ? should lagna be more than 28 points ?> so can we judge if time is correct or not from this criteria too ?> thanks/regards> harjeet> > , jay shanders> <phillyanyone@> wrote:> >> > NAMASTE> > Dear fellow member,> > thank you so much for taking the time to analyze my and my wifes> charts as i honeslty dont know which birth time 8:30 AM or 9:36 AM is> accurate for my wife but my birth time of 7:15 PM is accurate so what> would be the over all outcome as to my current divorce situation- will> the divorce go though and us divorceed with my chancea or reuniting> afterwards ????? any 2nd marriage for either ?? or will the divorce> not happen and us reuntiing and staying married?? i just want to know> what to really expect as to my current divorce proceedings??> > since my birth time is accurate then all my events in life will> fall into place right?? what can i expect as to my life events as to> now and the future in terms of marriage ??? i would appreciate all> advice possible.> > GOD bless> > amir> > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > Dear Ramesh,> > > > I am gettind Asc 6Sc38.> > Your explaination so nice.> > But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned.> > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,> > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in> respect of his spouse are followings.> > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is> the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined> delay caused by Sa and Ju both.> > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.> > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara> who is SD to Mo.> > Ma is also 6th lord.> > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from> lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.> > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.> > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.> > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord> of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10> relationship in navamsa.> > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.> > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.> > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.> This is not present in her husband chart.> > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her> husband chart.> > This may be due to wrong birth time.> > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes> except navamsa.> > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:> > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the> given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of> Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth.> > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM> which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might> be wrong.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash> > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM> > > > RE: Re: need advice-currentdivorce> > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of> the points are less in 7th house so results are showing.> > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So> from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in> Navamsa. So here results are more severe. > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and> from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset> bad effects of 6th lord. > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11> and 2:12. > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then> of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th> lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power> in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in> 7th house. > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator> for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve.> > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for> 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the> same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.> > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has> 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his> wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones> and start afresh for the child.> > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.> > Otherwise it's very difficult.> > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that> Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's> wife's chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using> KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time> of his wife and so did I. > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting> the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes> proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting> right or even in the ball park.> > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on> why he questioned the authenticity of birth time.> > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally> experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time> is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet> bakshi> > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM> > > > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > Dear Amir,> > i am just learning KAS...> > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu> > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.> > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for> > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont> > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also> > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.> > Ashji please guide on this one..> > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari> > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.> > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...> > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to> > 2006 apr.> > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell> > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.> > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5> > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.> > sun in 7th house.> > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause> > you to take hasty steps.> > cant go more as out of time..> > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of> > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects> > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong> > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > , jay shanders> > <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr. ramesh> > > how are you?/> > > thank you so much for your reply> > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give> > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and> > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding> > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of> > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly> > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can> > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you> > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still> > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the> > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us> > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is> > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i> > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting> > marriage ??> > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person> > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much> > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated??> > > thank you> > > amir> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > Dear Amir,> > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> > > your answers.> > > I had asked you before also the correctness of> > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> > > data.> > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts> > > will be useless.> > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> > > understand it.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > namaste> > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > > > reunite with me after it ??> > > > thank you> > > > amir> > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > Dear Amir,> > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > > > the month of Feb/2008.> > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > NAMASTE> > > > Dear Guruji> > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > > > wife and daughter > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > > > proceeding status. > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > > > controling parents > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > > > divorce becase of > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > > > weeks going by, i > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > > > marriage and she too > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > > > her parents are > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > > > me so she says > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > > > else. i have tried > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > > > married for 5 years, > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > > > will my marriage > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my> > > > wfie getting back > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > > > help i can get > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > > > as to my marriage-> > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > > thank you> > > > God bless> > > > amir> > > > > > > > amir patel> > > > biodata-> > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > > bijal patel> > > > biodata> > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 , jay shanders <phillyanyone wrote: > Dear Amir, thanks for your feedback. yes at the end of 2003 your antra of jupiter having very low points for 7th house and your wife's moon antra which is samdhari to mars her 6th lord was going on... and then antra of mars followed. after first quarter of 2008.. her antra of saturn would start which is having better points than current antra of jupiter and is also lord of D would start, which would be favourable i guess. besides blessing in your chart and perhaps your wife chart too. also saturn and mars of your chart aspects her mars.. i already pointed that out to you yesterday. so things would hopefully turn out good. my suggestion is that keep calm and adjust till april 2008. all the best. thanks/regards harjeet > Dear fellow members > namaste > marriage was on june 1 2002, engagement was sept 2000, we started having problems in ending of 2003 with ups and down since then, since 2004 we have has 5 short separations with my leaving 2 time anc coming back and then me leaving 3 times and coming back becase of severe fights, as there is nothing serious between us but my inlaws cause great stress and unhappiness by constant interfering and control as t my wife , currently my wife did not want divorce and she had changed her mind as to saving our marriage but her parents want her to go through with the divorce even though we hava a 1 year old daughter. becase of her parents influence my wife does not want to go against them and thus proceed with the divorce. as i have tried vey hard to convince my wife but now she says that she is not going to change her mind as to the divorce as we dont have much time becase in my state divorce can occur after 6 months of separation. > we have been separated since march 9 2007. > please all member can you tell me as to what i should expect will happen- will we stay married and reunite or will my wife go thorugh with the divorce and thus us divorced?? if divorce does occor then are any chances of reuntiing after since we have a daughter together so will my wife remarry ?? my birth date is accurate so what about my life events as to marriage and future?? please help me as all adive and predictions would be appreciated > if anyone needs any more information please let me know, as i need all the help i can get to save my marriage. > GOD bless > amir > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Dear Ashji/Mishraji, > > If we take birth time to 9:03. > we get libra navamsa here. so again lord of lagna and 9th in navamsa > is 5:9 in navamsa. > > now antra of jupiter starts on 26th jan 2006. taking 13 days > difference or may be if the child was born before 9 months.. anyway i > think its marginal difference. i call it close call. so conceive and > birth both in jupiter antra. > > regarding marriage problems, it should have started in the antra of > mars jan 2005 to jan 2006. > and this might have worsen in antra of jupiter which has low points > for 7th house. > > feedback from Amir would be appreciated. > > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash,Anup, Harjeet and all, > > Another reason for the doubt in her birth time is the period of > separation on 9 Mar 2007. > > The native was running through 2nd lord antara of Jup. This period > may give worries and strain but separation I could not find in this > antara. > > The separation took place in second sector of Ju antara. > > When you analyse the 2nd house, its karak is Mo who is in house B > of 7th. > > The Mo is strongly placed in 7th with 6 bindus and in the 10th > place from Sa ,LoD for 7th.Therefore aspect of Sa on Mo may not harm > the native for 7th house matter. > > On the contrary Mo being powerful in 7th, LoA for 2nd may > influence the native for separation. Mo will have its malefic aspect > on lagna. > > So Mo antara may give either separation or divorce. But it is not so. > > Ju is not SD to either Mo or Me or Ve. These antaras are late for > the result of 2nd house matter. > > I could not understand how Ju separated them. Of course Ju is LoA > for 7th and LoB for 2nd. Ju is weak in WS for 2nd and 7th. > > So I do not think Ju antara should result in separation for this > couple as per her chart. > > The timing of child birth on 8 Sep 2006 is in line.She might have > conceived in the month of Dec 2005 during Ra-Ma. > > But the chart shows delay in conception but she conceived in > second sector instead of third sector in Ma antara. Ma is in 9th house > > So these are the points where I found birth time of this female > native is incorrect. > > If I am wrong with my analysis,please correct me. > > This detail explanation is for my learning. > > With best regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > Dear Ashji, > > Amir has more points in 7th house compared to lagna.. so his wife > > should be considered somewhat stubborn as the points are 29 and not > > more than 30. > > again my same question : this should be reflected in the lagna of > > Amir's wife ? should lagna be more than 28 points ? > > so can we judge if time is correct or not from this criteria too ? > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , jay shanders > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > NAMASTE > > > Dear fellow member, > > > thank you so much for taking the time to analyze my and my wifes > > charts as i honeslty dont know which birth time 8:30 AM or 9:36 AM is > > accurate for my wife but my birth time of 7:15 PM is accurate so what > > would be the over all outcome as to my current divorce situation- will > > the divorce go though and us divorceed with my chancea or reuniting > > afterwards ????? any 2nd marriage for either ?? or will the divorce > > not happen and us reuntiing and staying married?? i just want to know > > what to really expect as to my current divorce proceedings?? > > > since my birth time is accurate then all my events in life will > > fall into place right?? what can i expect as to my life events as to > > now and the future in terms of marriage ??? i would appreciate all > > advice possible. > > > GOD bless > > > amir > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > I am gettind Asc 6Sc38. > > > Your explaination so nice. > > > But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all, > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in > > respect of his spouse are followings. > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is > > the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined > > delay caused by Sa and Ju both. > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo. > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara > > who is SD to Mo. > > > Ma is also 6th lord. > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from > > lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio. > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart. > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord > > of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 > > relationship in navamsa. > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce. > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart. > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage. > > This is not present in her husband chart. > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her > > husband chart. > > > This may be due to wrong birth time. > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes > > except navamsa. > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote: > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the > > given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of > > Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth. > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM > > which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might > > be wrong. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM > > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current > divorce > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of > > the points are less in 7th house so results are showing. > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So > > from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in > > Navamsa. So here results are more severe. > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and > > from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset > > bad effects of 6th lord. > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11 > > and 2:12. > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then > > of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th > > lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power > > in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in > > 7th house. > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator > > for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve. > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for > > 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the > > same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness. > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has > > 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his > > wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones > > and start afresh for the child. > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment. > > > Otherwise it's very difficult. > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that > > Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's > > wife's chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using > > KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time > > of his wife and so did I. > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting > > the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes > > proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting > > right or even in the ball park. > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on > > why he questioned the authenticity of birth time. > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time > > is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet > > bakshi > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM > > > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > i am just learning KAS... > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra of rahu > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house. > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i dont > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is also > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house. > > > Ashji please guide on this one.. > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being samdhari > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage. > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad... > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to > > > 2006 apr. > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury. > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5 > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages. > > > sun in 7th house. > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause > > > you to take hasty steps. > > > cant go more as out of time.. > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , jay shanders > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh > > > > how are you?/ > > > > thank you so much for your reply > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i honestly > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right now. can > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through and us > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long lasting > > > marriage ?? > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated?? > > > > thank you > > > > amir > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all > > > > your answers. > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same > > > > data. > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts > > > > will be useless. > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you > > > > understand it. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > namaste > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future. > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb??? > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she > > > > > reunite with me after it ?? > > > > > thank you > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amir, > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in > > > > > the month of Feb/2008. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote: > > > > > NAMASTE > > > > > Dear Guruji > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her > > > > > controling parents > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now > > > > > her parents are > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to > > > > > me so she says > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and > > > > > help i can get > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen > > > > > as to my marriage- > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > > > thank you > > > > > God bless > > > > > amir > > > > > > > > > > amir patel > > > > > biodata- > > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > bijal patel > > > > > biodata > > > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Namaste Dear harjeet, thank you so much for taking the time for your feedback as iam so gratful as i need all the advice and help i can get to help me know what will honeslty happen as to my current divorce situation. why is it important that i wait til april 2008 as i dont have that much time since we have been separated for past 6 months and in my state in usa my wife can sign the divorce papers after 6 months so she can basically sign the papers anytime now she wants as we have a court date on october 1 so i dont have til april 2008 becase if we do divorce i dont think there would be any chances of us reuniting after the divorce as she may not want to or her parents will try to remarry her off so what do you suggest??? you have said of blessing in my charts and my wife too- what do you mean by that?? ok, can you for once make this clear to me as iam so worried and scared as i want to know - do you think that the divorce will go though- meaning will my wife sign the divorce papers and divroce us ?? is there divorce occuring betwwen me and my wife and if so do we both have 2nd marriage??? or no matter what happen will we stay married ????? what do you honeslty forsee ?? can you tell me any future life events for me as to my charts?? any advice or prediction you can give me will be gratful thank you amirharjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: , jay shanders<phillyanyone wrote:>Dear Amir,thanks for your feedback.yes at the end of 2003 your antra of jupiter having very low pointsfor 7th house and your wife's moon antra which is samdhari to mars her6th lord was going on... and then antra of mars followed.after first quarter of 2008.. her antra of saturn would start which ishaving better points than current antra of jupiter and is also lord ofD would start, which would be favourable i guess.besides blessing in your chart and perhaps your wife chart too.also saturn and mars of your chart aspects her mars.. i alreadypointed that out to you yesterday.so things would hopefully turn out good.my suggestion is that keep calm and adjust till april 2008.all the best.thanks/regardsharjeet> Dear fellow members> namaste> marriage was on june 1 2002, engagement was sept 2000, we startedhaving problems in ending of 2003 with ups and down since then, since2004 we have has 5 short separations with my leaving 2 time anc comingback and then me leaving 3 times and coming back becase of severefights, as there is nothing serious between us but my inlaws causegreat stress and unhappiness by constant interfering and control as tmy wife , currently my wife did not want divorce and she had changedher mind as to saving our marriage but her parents want her to gothrough with the divorce even though we hava a 1 year old daughter.becase of her parents influence my wife does not want to go againstthem and thus proceed with the divorce. as i have tried vey hard toconvince my wife but now she says that she is not going to change hermind as to the divorce as we dont have much time becase in my statedivorce can occur after 6 months of separation.> we have been separated since march 9 2007. > please all member can you tell me as to what i should expect willhappen- will we stay married and reunite or will my wife go thorughwith the divorce and thus us divorced?? if divorce does occor thenare any chances of reuntiing after since we have a daughter togetherso will my wife remarry ?? my birth date is accurate so whatabout my life events as to marriage and future?? please help me as alladive and predictions would be appreciated> if anyone needs any more information please let me know, as i needall the help i can get to save my marriage.> GOD bless> amir> > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> Dear Ashji/Mishraji,> > If we take birth time to 9:03. > we get libra navamsa here. so again lord of lagna and 9th in navamsa> is 5:9 in navamsa.> > now antra of jupiter starts on 26th jan 2006. taking 13 days> difference or may be if the child was born before 9 months.. anyway i> think its marginal difference. i call it close call. so conceive and> birth both in jupiter antra.> > regarding marriage problems, it should have started in the antra of> mars jan 2005 to jan 2006.> and this might have worsen in antra of jupiter which has low points> for 7th house.> > feedback from Amir would be appreciated.> > thanks/regards> harjeet> > , ramesh mishra> <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> >> > Dear Ash,Anup, Harjeet and all,> > Another reason for the doubt in her birth time is the period of> separation on 9 Mar 2007.> > The native was running through 2nd lord antara of Jup. This period> may give worries and strain but separation I could not find in this> antara.> > The separation took place in second sector of Ju antara.> > When you analyse the 2nd house, its karak is Mo who is in house B> of 7th.> > The Mo is strongly placed in 7th with 6 bindus and in the 10th> place from Sa ,LoD for 7th.Therefore aspect of Sa on Mo may not harm> the native for 7th house matter.> > On the contrary Mo being powerful in 7th, LoA for 2nd may> influence the native for separation. Mo will have its malefic aspect> on lagna.> > So Mo antara may give either separation or divorce. But it is not so.> > Ju is not SD to either Mo or Me or Ve. These antaras are late for> the result of 2nd house matter.> > I could not understand how Ju separated them. Of course Ju is LoA> for 7th and LoB for 2nd. Ju is weak in WS for 2nd and 7th.> > So I do not think Ju antara should result in separation for this> couple as per her chart.> > The timing of child birth on 8 Sep 2006 is in line.She might have> conceived in the month of Dec 2005 during Ra-Ma.> > But the chart shows delay in conception but she conceived in> second sector instead of third sector in Ma antara. Ma is in 9th house> > So these are the points where I found birth time of this female> native is incorrect.> > If I am wrong with my analysis,please correct me.> > This detail explanation is for my learning.> > With best regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > Dear Ashji,> > Amir has more points in 7th house compared to lagna.. so his wife> > should be considered somewhat stubborn as the points are 29 and not> > more than 30.> > again my same question : this should be reflected in the lagna of> > Amir's wife ? should lagna be more than 28 points ?> > so can we judge if time is correct or not from this criteria too ?> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > , jay shanders> > <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > >> > > NAMASTE> > > Dear fellow member,> > > thank you so much for taking the time to analyze my and my wifes> > charts as i honeslty dont know which birth time 8:30 AM or 9:36 AM is> > accurate for my wife but my birth time of 7:15 PM is accurate so what> > would be the over all outcome as to my current divorce situation- will> > the divorce go though and us divorceed with my chancea or reuniting> > afterwards ????? any 2nd marriage for either ?? or will the divorce> > not happen and us reuntiing and staying married?? i just want to know> > what to really expect as to my current divorce proceedings??> > > since my birth time is accurate then all my events in life will> > fall into place right?? what can i expect as to my life events as to> > now and the future in terms of marriage ??? i would appreciate all> > advice possible.> > > GOD bless> > > amir> > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > I am gettind Asc 6Sc38.> > > Your explaination so nice.> > > But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned.> > > > > > Regards> > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,> > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in> > respect of his spouse are followings.> > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is> > the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined> > delay caused by Sa and Ju both.> > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.> > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara> > who is SD to Mo.> > > Ma is also 6th lord.> > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from> > lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.> > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.> > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.> > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord> > of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10> > relationship in navamsa.> > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.> > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.> > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.> > This is not present in her husband chart.> > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her> > husband chart.> > > This may be due to wrong birth time.> > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes> > except navamsa.> > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.> > > Thanks and regards.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:> > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the> > given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of> > Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth.> > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM> > which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might> > be wrong.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash> > > Sent: Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM> > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current> divorce> > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of> > the points are less in 7th house so results are showing.> > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So> > from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in> > Navamsa. So here results are more severe. > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and> > from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset> > bad effects of 6th lord. > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11> > and 2:12. > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then> > of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th> > lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power> > in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in> > 7th house. > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator> > for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve.> > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for> > 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the> > same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.> > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has> > 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his> > wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones> > and start afresh for the child.> > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.> > > Otherwise it's very difficult.> > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that> > Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's> > wife's chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using> > KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time> > of his wife and so did I. > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting> > the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes> > proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting> > right or even in the ball park.> > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on> > why he questioned the authenticity of birth time.> > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally> > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time> > is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet> > bakshi> > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM> > > > > > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > i am just learning KAS...> > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antraof rahu> > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.> > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point for> > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(idont> > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu isalso> > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.> > > Ashji please guide on this one..> > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu beingsamdhari> > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.> > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...> > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004 sep to> > > 2006 apr.> > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th aswell> > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.> > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with -5> > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.> > > sun in 7th house.> > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might cause> > > you to take hasty steps.> > > cant go more as out of time..> > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of> > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn aspects> > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong> > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive factor.> > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > , jay shanders> > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr. ramesh> > > > how are you?/> > > > thank you so much for your reply> > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give> > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and> > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding> > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a copy of> > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so ihonestly> > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her rightnow. can> > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM you> > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still> > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the> > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go throughand us> > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time is> > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i> > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a longlasting> > > marriage ??> > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person> > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much> > > about. any further information as to my chart will be appreciated??> > > > thank you> > > > amir> > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > Dear Amir,> > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> > > > your answers.> > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of> > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> > > > data.> > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts> > > > will be useless.> > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> > > > understand it.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > namaste> > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > > > > reunite with me after it ??> > > > > thank you> > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > > > > the month of Feb/2008.> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > NAMASTE> > > > > Dear Guruji> > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > > > > controling parents > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > > > > her parents are > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > > > > me so she says > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > > > > will my marriage > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my> > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > > > > help i can get > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > > > > as to my marriage-> > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > > > thank you> > > > > God bless> > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > amir patel> > > > > biodata-> > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > > > > bijal patel> > > > > biodata> > > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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