Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Rajesh, date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to study to.. anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of virgo asc. thanks/regards harjeet , Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9 wrote: > > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members, > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate that. > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist should write month too with years, when giving passed events). > First I will take VIRGO Lagna > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th. > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat , even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also cannot be SD to Ven. > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation. > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because its imp for us. > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and Ra is SD Moon(LOE) > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to give marriage , why it broke ? > Ash we need your help here ? > > If I take Libra Lagna, > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D with 6 points( Match 100 %) > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%) > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a problem, All planets for 6th are high. > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less comparativily. > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage. > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP. > > Best Regards, > Rajesh > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Group, > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna. > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail. > > Regards > Anup > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Group, > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these which goes > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered. > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be taken as temporary basis, > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B. > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars and with 30 pts. > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house. > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th hosue. > > So now with which lagna to go with? > Libra or Virgo? > > So more and more events are required with dates for further validating lagna. > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with fewer events. > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here. > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am still awake all nite long > for some reasons. > > > Regards > Anup > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote: > Hello All, > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things. > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first) > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is facing lot of problems at work place . > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In general she ls ordinary person. > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you. > > Thanks > Venkat > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji, > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening > antra for the native. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the > > native might be in high post. > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial. > > Ashji can guide on this. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , Raj Rajesh > > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash, > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others. > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance / > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive , > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > Is native look younger than her age etc > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/ > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009. > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and > > suddenly stopped spending money too much. > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more > > expense. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards, > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat, > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate. > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay period > > > is over. > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no > > > blessings from father or guru. > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house. > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords. > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn. > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12. > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4. > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8. > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out. > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house. > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ? > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ? > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr. > > > if any feedback on that particular time? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , Tammy Wood > > > <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation. > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking > > > about divorce > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to > > > misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here. > > > > Taking Libra lagna.... > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will > > > break up. > > > > there is Jup delay. > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon. > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus, > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts. > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and > > > Moon shows > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social > life. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members, > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning > > > this sysytem. > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5 > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra > > > Lagna. > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons. > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS. > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay > > > the marriage that much ? > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to > > > Nov 2009. > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it > > > can give marriage. > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007 > > > to Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ? > > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra > > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there > > > are no zeros there. > > > > > > > > Pls suggest. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > Hello Gurujis, > > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below > > > person get married. > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M > > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India > > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights > > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot of remedies. > > > Will she get a good life partner. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. 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Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Hi All, Thanks for the analysis, The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help us to know. Thanks Venkatharjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: Dear Rajesh,date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important tostudy to..anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precidesjupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case ofvirgo asc.thanks/regardsharjeet , Raj Rajesh<astro_raj9 wrote:>> Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members,> Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciatethat.> > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the queristshould write month too with years, when giving passed events).> First I will take VIRGO Lagna> 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jupcan not give result here because it has low points here for 5th.> If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat ,even then Sat can not give result because of low points and alsocannot be SD to Ven.> Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation.> Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, becauseits imp for us.> > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this isexactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points andRa is SD Moon(LOE)> > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat> 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate togive marriage , why it broke ?> Ash we need your help here ?> > If I take Libra Lagna,> 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house Dwith 6 points( Match 100 %)> 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%)> Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not aproblem, All planets for 6th are high.> 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th alsothe FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are lesscomparativily.> 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sensewith Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But Iam not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage.> > Ash and other member , PLS HELP.> > Best Regards,> Rajesh> > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna.> Sorry i didnt mention in my mail.> > Regards> Anup> > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of thesewhich goes > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,brokenengagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5thhouses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered.> As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can betaken as temporary basis,> and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B.> 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Marsand with 30 pts.> So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house.> But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5thhosue.> > So now with which lagna to go with?> Libra or Virgo?> > So more and more events are required with dates for furthervalidating lagna.> Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel withfewer events. > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here.> Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i amstill awake all nite long> for some reasons.> > > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote:> Hello All,> Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs tovirgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things.> > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first)> 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life> 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job> 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she isfacing lot of problems at work place .> 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher> 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.Ingeneral she ls ordinary person.> > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you.> > Thanks> Venkat> harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji,> also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house> ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening> antra for the native.> thanks/regards> harjeet> > , "harjeet bakshi"> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Rajesh,> > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the> > native might be in high post.> > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in> > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial.> > Ashji can guide on this.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > , Raj Rajesh> > <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash,> > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is> > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the> > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly> > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others.> > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like> > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance /> > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any> > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive ,> > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > Is native look younger than her age etc> > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/> > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009.> > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare> > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and> > suddenly stopped spending money too much.> > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna> > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase> > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making> > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more> > expense. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards,> > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat,> > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate.> > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delayperiod> > > is over.> > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no> > > blessings from father or guru.> > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house.> > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords.> > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn.> > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12.> > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4.> > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8.> > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out.> > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house.> > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ?> > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ?> > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th> > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr.> > > if any feedback on that particular time?> > > > > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > , Tammy Wood> > > <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello All,> > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation.> > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking> > > about divorce > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to> > > misunderstanding.> > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help> > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here.> > > > Taking Libra lagna....> > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will> > > break up.> > > > there is Jup delay.> > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon.> > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus,> > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts.> > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and> > > Moon shows> > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social> life.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members,> > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning> > > this sysytem.> > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5> > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra> > > Lagna.> > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons.> > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB> > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars> > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house> > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha> > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha> > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS.> > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay> > > the marriage that much ?> > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to> > > Nov 2009.> > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it> > > can give marriage.> > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector> > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007> > > to Nov 2008.> > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in> > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ?> > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra> > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there> > > are no zeros there.> > > > > > > > Pls suggest.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > > Hello Gurujis,> > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below> > > person get married. > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M> > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India> > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights> > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot ofremedies.> > > Will she get a good life partner.> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have> > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from> > > someone who knows.> > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > > > > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Travelling to a new city? Search for ATMs in that city. Clickhere.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's> > user panel and lay it on us.> > >> >> > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Autos. > > > > > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search.> Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet, Venkat and all, I think we should proceed with the chart taking Virgo as lagna. It is evident from Virgo lagna that Sa and Ju both are causing delay in marriage. But with Li lagna there is delay due to Ju only. Ju is 6th lord here. With Virgo lagna Sa is 6th lord and being 6th lord he is in 3house from 7th and aspects all significators of 7th house. LoD for 2nd is in house E and in house B for 7th with strong 5 bindus. Her lagna has 33 sav points compared to 30 sav points in 7th house.. This may say that she will dominate over her spouse and create marital dispute in her life. 12th from 2nd is in house B for 2nd. This all combinations make the chart more delay in marriage and discomfort in marital bliss. I think with Virgo lagna some more time rectification is required. Her 12th point is more than 11th so her expenditures should be more or she should be spendthift. But in actual it is not so as told by Venkat.. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the analysis, The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help us to know. Thanks Venkatharjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: Dear Rajesh,date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important tostudy to..anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precidesjupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case ofvirgo asc.thanks/regardsharjeet , Raj Rajesh<astro_raj9 wrote:>> Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members,> Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciatethat.> > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the queristshould write month too with years, when giving passed events).> First I will take VIRGO Lagna> 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jupcan not give result here because it has low points here for 5th.> If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat ,even then Sat can not give result because of low points and alsocannot be SD to Ven.> Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation.> Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, becauseits imp for us.> > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this isexactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points andRa is SD Moon(LOE)> > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat> 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate togive marriage , why it broke ?> Ash we need your help here ?> > If I take Libra Lagna,> 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house Dwith 6 points( Match 100 %)> 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%)> Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not aproblem, All planets for 6th are high.> 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th alsothe FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are lesscomparativily.> 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sensewith Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But Iam not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage.> > Ash and other member , PLS HELP.> > Best Regards,> Rajesh> > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna.> Sorry i didnt mention in my mail.> > Regards> Anup> > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of thesewhich goes > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,brokenengagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5thhouses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered.> As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can betaken as temporary basis,> and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B.> 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Marsand with 30 pts.> So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house.> But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5thhosue.> > So now with which lagna to go with?> Libra or Virgo?> > So more and more events are required with dates for furthervalidating lagna.> Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel withfewer events. > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here.> Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i amstill awake all nite long> for some reasons.> > > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote:> Hello All,> Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs tovirgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things.> > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first)> 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life> 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job> 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she isfacing lot of problems at work place .> 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher> 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.Ingeneral she ls ordinary person.> > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you.> > Thanks> Venkat> harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji,> also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house> ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening> antra for the native.> thanks/regards> harjeet> > , "harjeet bakshi"> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Rajesh,> > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the> > native might be in high post.> > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in> > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial.> > Ashji can guide on this.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > , Raj Rajesh> > <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash,> > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is> > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the> > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly> > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others.> > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like> > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance /> > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any> > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive ,> > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > Is native look younger than her age etc> > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/> > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009.> > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare> > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and> > suddenly stopped spending money too much.> > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna> > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase> > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making> > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more> > expense. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards,> > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat,> > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate.> > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delayperiod> > > is over.> > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no> > > blessings from father or guru.> > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house.> > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords.> > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn.> > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12.> > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4.> > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8.> > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out.> > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house.> > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ?> > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ?> > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th> > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr.> > > if any feedback on that particular time?> > > > > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > , Tammy Wood> > > <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello All,> > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation.> > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking> > > about divorce > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to> > > misunderstanding.> > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help> > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here.> > > > Taking Libra lagna....> > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will> > > break up.> > > > there is Jup delay.> > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon.> > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus,> > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts.> > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and> > > Moon shows> > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social> life.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members,> > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning> > > this sysytem.> > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5> > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra> > > Lagna.> > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons.> > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB> > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars> > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house> > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha> > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha> > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS.> > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay> > > the marriage that much ?> > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to> > > Nov 2009.> > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it> > > can give marriage.> > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector> > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007> > > to Nov 2008.> > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in> > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ?> > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra> > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there> > > are no zeros there.> > > > > > > > Pls suggest.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > > Hello Gurujis,> > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below> > > person get married. > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M> > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India> > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights> > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot ofremedies.> > > Will she get a good life partner.> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have> > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Group, As written by Venkat,engagement broken in august month2004.Sun was transiting cancer sign, which has zero point in 1st house,and 6,8,8,11 points respectively in 3rd,4th,5th,6th houses. Also 6,3,9 points in 8th,9th,12th houses. So this cld be 1st august -16th august2004. Transit contradicts this as daily points are too good and trasits points are 8 in aggregate by Sat and Jup. Regards Anup Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the analysis, The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help us to know. Thanks Venkatharjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: Dear Rajesh,date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important tostudy to..anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precidesjupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case ofvirgo asc.thanks/regardsharjeet , Raj Rajesh<astro_raj9 wrote:>> Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members,> Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciatethat.> > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the queristshould write month too with years, when giving passed events).> First I will take VIRGO Lagna> 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jupcan not give result here because it has low points here for 5th.> If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat ,even then Sat can not give result because of low points and alsocannot be SD to Ven.> Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation.> Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, becauseits imp for us.> > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this isexactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points andRa is SD Moon(LOE)> > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat> 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate togive marriage , why it broke ?> Ash we need your help here ?> > If I take Libra Lagna,> 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house Dwith 6 points( Match 100 %)> 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%)> Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not aproblem, All planets for 6th are high.> 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th alsothe FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are lesscomparativily.> 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sensewith Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But Iam not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage.> > Ash and other member , PLS HELP.> > Best Regards,> Rajesh> > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna.> Sorry i didnt mention in my mail.> > Regards> Anup> > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of thesewhich goes > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,brokenengagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5thhouses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered.> As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can betaken as temporary basis,> and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B.> 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Marsand with 30 pts.> So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house.> But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5thhosue.> > So now with which lagna to go with?> Libra or Virgo?> > So more and more events are required with dates for furthervalidating lagna.> Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel withfewer events. > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here.> Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i amstill awake all nite long> for some reasons.> > > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote:> Hello All,> Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs tovirgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things.> > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first)> 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life> 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job> 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she isfacing lot of problems at work place .> 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher> 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.Ingeneral she ls ordinary person.> > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you.> > Thanks> Venkat> harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji,> also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house> ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening> antra for the native.> thanks/regards> harjeet> > , "harjeet bakshi"> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Rajesh,> > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the> > native might be in high post.> > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in> > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial.> > Ashji can guide on this.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > , Raj Rajesh> > <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash,> > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is> > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the> > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly> > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others.> > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like> > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance /> > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any> > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive ,> > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > Is native look younger than her age etc> > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/> > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009.> > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare> > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and> > suddenly stopped spending money too much.> > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna> > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase> > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making> > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more> > expense. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards,> > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat,> > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate.> > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delayperiod> > > is over.> > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no> > > blessings from father or guru.> > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house.> > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords.> > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn.> > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12.> > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4.> > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8.> > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out.> > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house.> > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ?> > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ?> > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th> > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr.> > > if any feedback on that particular time?> > > > > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > , Tammy Wood> > > <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello All,> > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation.> > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking> > > about divorce > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to> > > misunderstanding.> > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help> > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here.> > > > Taking Libra lagna....> > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will> > > break up.> > > > there is Jup delay.> > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon.> > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus,> > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts.> > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and> > > Moon shows> > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social> life.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members,> > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning> > > this sysytem.> > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5> > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra> > > Lagna.> > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons.> > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB> > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars> > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house> > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha> > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha> > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS.> > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay> > > the marriage that much ?> > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to> > > Nov 2009.> > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it> > > can give marriage.> > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector> > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007> > > to Nov 2008.> > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in> > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ?> > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra> > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there> > > are no zeros there.> > > > > > > > Pls suggest.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > > Hello Gurujis,> > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below> > > person get married. > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M> > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India> > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights> > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot ofremedies.> > > Will she get a good life partner.> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have> > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from> > > someone who knows.> > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > > > > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Travelling to a new city? Search for ATMs in that city. Clickhere.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's> > user panel and lay it on us.> > >> >> > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Autos. > > > > > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search.> Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Building a website is a piece of cake. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Anup, Can you please elaborate further on your line of thought since I have a slightly different viewpoint. As per my viewpoint, daily points do not effect events. For example, low points may make the native quite busy with work. Breaking of engagement may have relieved the native from the tensions and that could also very well match with daily points being high. The effect of sa + ju is again considered not from event perspective but more from that state of mind through which a native has to go through. Unless we know the real reasons of break in engagement and it’s effect on the native (good or bad), the daily points and sa+ju points may mislead. To check the event WS would be deciding factor. Daily points and sa+ju will help us understand the environment in which the event took place and it’s effect on the native. Ofcourse I may be wrong in my understanding. I still need to look at the chart in detail. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. M Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:26 AM To: Re: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Group, As written by Venkat,engagement broken in august month2004.Sun was transiting cancer sign, which has zero point in 1st house,and 6,8,8,11 points respectively in 3rd,4th,5th,6th houses. Also 6,3,9 points in 8th,9th,12th houses. So this cld be 1st august -16th august2004. Transit contradicts this as daily points are too good and trasits points are 8 in aggregate by Sat and Jup. Regards Anup Tammy Wood <tamtamger (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the analysis, The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help us to know. Thanks Venkat harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: Dear Rajesh, date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to study to.. anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of virgo asc. thanks/regards harjeet , Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9 wrote: > > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members, > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate that. > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist should write month too with years, when giving passed events). > First I will take VIRGO Lagna > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th. > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat , even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also cannot be SD to Ven. > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation. > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because its imp for us. > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and Ra is SD Moon(LOE) > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to give marriage , why it broke ? > Ash we need your help here ? > > If I take Libra Lagna, > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D with 6 points( Match 100 %) > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%) > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a problem, All planets for 6th are high. > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less comparativily. > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage. > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP. > > Best Regards, > Rajesh > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Group, > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna. > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail. > > Regards > Anup > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Group, > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these which goes > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered. > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be taken as temporary basis, > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B. > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars and with 30 pts. > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house. > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th hosue. > > So now with which lagna to go with? > Libra or Virgo? > > So more and more events are required with dates for further validating lagna. > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with fewer events. > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here. > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am still awake all nite long > for some reasons. > > > Regards > Anup > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote: > Hello All, > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things. > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first) > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is facing lot of problems at work place . > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In general she ls ordinary person. > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you. > > Thanks > Venkat > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji, > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening > antra for the native. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the > > native might be in high post. > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial. > > Ashji can guide on this. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , Raj Rajesh > > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash, > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others. > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance / > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive , > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > Is native look younger than her age etc > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/ > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009. > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and > > suddenly stopped spending money too much. > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more > > expense. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards, > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat, > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate. > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay period > > > is over. > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no > > > blessings from father or guru. > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house. > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords. > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn. > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12. > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4. > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8. > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out. > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house. > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ? > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ? > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr. > > > if any feedback on that particular time? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , Tammy Wood > > > <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation. > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking > > > about divorce > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to > > > misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here. > > > > Taking Libra lagna.... > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will > > > break up. > > > > there is Jup delay. > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon. > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus, > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts. > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and > > > Moon shows > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social > life. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members, > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning > > > this sysytem. > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5 > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra > > > Lagna. > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons. > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS. > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay > > > the marriage that much ? > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to > > > Nov 2009. > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it > > > can give marriage. > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007 > > > to Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ? > > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra > > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there > > > are no zeros there. > > > > > > > > Pls suggest. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > Hello Gurujis, > > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below > > > person get married. > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M > > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India > > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights > > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot of remedies. > > > Will she get a good life partner. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from > > > someone who knows. > > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > > > > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Travelling to a new city? Search for ATMs in that city. Click here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's > > user panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Autos. > > > > > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search. > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Building a website is a piece of cake. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Manu, Nice to have a mail from you in this forum after a long time. Well, you are right that daily points do not effect the event. But this reflects state of mind of the native, support from all planets including Sat and Jup,in transit. Now if , say, the low points show that a person may be busy when Sat and Jup are supporting and give sufficient 8 points in aggregate(more of equal 4+4we say, better) Somewhere in archives this is written by Guruji that 20% effect of transit is liable giving event. As in prior query about engagement, where Mars transit over zero point zone of Moon and such event happened. More than 196 may reflect a person is enjoying with frds, good day,feeling relieved of stress and worries etc as we all know. If we say taking this event, like engagement ,it is memorable and joyful day for a male/female in most parts of the world,no matter,its first, second or third times,like in euprope. But if this engagement is broken,how a native can feel relieved from this joy? The person may not be in a mood to celebrate this, i think !! So i think less than 196 points sld be there in daily points as such. Rather,it cld be a sad day for him/her, as on days, state of mind sld reflect this too in transit, mostly by moon.I may be wrong but only for death event we take such rule as native is relieved from this material world and free from tension and worries after abononing physical body .. This death like event happened once in a total life. But if we take engagement, this can be at a person's will or consent to make or break up this event unlike death where a person never wants to die ever on his will or as destined. I shall be awaiting your point of view including all members on this topic of daily points. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Anup, Can you please elaborate further on your line of thought since I have a slightly different viewpoint. As per my viewpoint, daily points do not effect events. For example, low points may make the native quite busy with work. Breaking of engagement may have relieved the native from the tensions and that could also very well match with daily points being high. The effect of sa + ju is again considered not from event perspective but more from that state of mind through which a native has to go through. Unless we know the real reasons of break in engagement and it’s effect on the native (good or bad), the daily points and sa+ju points may mislead. To check the event WS would be deciding factor. Daily points and sa+ju will help us understand the environment in which the event took place and it’s effect on the native. Ofcourse I may be wrong in my understanding. I still need to look at the chart in detail. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. MWednesday, September 26, 2007 2:26 AM Subject: Re: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Group, As written by Venkat,engagement broken in august month2004.Sun was transiting cancer sign, which has zero point in 1st house,and 6,8,8,11 points respectively in 3rd,4th,5th,6th houses. Also 6,3,9 points in 8th,9th,12th houses. So this cld be 1st august -16th august2004. Transit contradicts this as daily points are too good and trasits points are 8 in aggregate by Sat and Jup. Regards Anup Tammy Wood <tamtamger (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the analysis, The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help us to know. Thanks Venkatharjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: Dear Rajesh,date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important tostudy to..anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precidesjupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case ofvirgo asc.thanks/regardsharjeet , Raj Rajesh<astro_raj9 wrote:>> Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members,> Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciatethat.> > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the queristshould write month too with years, when giving passed events).> First I will take VIRGO Lagna> 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jupcan not give result here because it has low points here for 5th.> If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat ,even then Sat can not give result because of low points and alsocannot be SD to Ven.> Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation.> Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, becauseits imp for us.> > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this isexactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points andRa is SD Moon(LOE)> > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat> 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate togive marriage , why it broke ?> Ash we need your help here ?> > If I take Libra Lagna,> 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house Dwith 6 points( Match 100 %)> 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%)> Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not aproblem, All planets for 6th are high.> 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th alsothe FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are lesscomparativily.> 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sensewith Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But Iam not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage.> > Ash and other member , PLS HELP.> > Best Regards,> Rajesh> > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna.> Sorry i didnt mention in my mail.> > Regards> Anup> > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of thesewhich goes > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,brokenengagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5thhouses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered.> As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can betaken as temporary basis,> and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B.> 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Marsand with 30 pts.> So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house.> But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5thhosue.> > So now with which lagna to go with?> Libra or Virgo?> > So more and more events are required with dates for furthervalidating lagna.> Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel withfewer events. > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here.> Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i amstill awake all nite long> for some reasons.> > > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote:> Hello All,> Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs tovirgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things.> > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first)> 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life> 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job> 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she isfacing lot of problems at work place .> 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher> 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.Ingeneral she ls ordinary person.> > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you.> > Thanks> Venkat> harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji,> also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house> ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening> antra for the native.> thanks/regards> harjeet> > , "harjeet bakshi"> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Rajesh,> > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the> > native might be in high post.> > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in> > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial.> > Ashji can guide on this.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > , Raj Rajesh> > <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash,> > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is> > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the> > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly> > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others.> > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like> > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance /> > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any> > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive ,> > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > Is native look younger than her age etc> > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/> > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009.> > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare> > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and> > suddenly stopped spending money too much.> > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna> > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase> > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making> > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more> > expense. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards,> > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat,> > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate.> > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delayperiod> > > is over.> > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no> > > blessings from father or guru.> > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house.> > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords.> > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn.> > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12.> > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4.> > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8.> > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out.> > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house.> > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ?> > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ?> > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th> > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr.> > > if any feedback on that particular time?> > > > > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > , Tammy Wood> > > <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello All,> > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation.> > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking> > > about divorce > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to> > > misunderstanding.> > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help> > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here.> > > > Taking Libra lagna....> > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will> > > break up.> > > > there is Jup delay.> > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon.> > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus,> > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts.> > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and> > > Moon shows> > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social> life.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members,> > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning> > > this sysytem.> > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5> > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra> > > Lagna.> > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons.> > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB> > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars> > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house> > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha> > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha> > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS.> > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay> > > the marriage that much ?> > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to> > > Nov 2009.> > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it> > > can give marriage.> > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector> > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007> > > to Nov 2008.> > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in> > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ?> > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra> > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there> > > are no zeros there.> > > > > > > > Pls suggest.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > > Hello Gurujis,> > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below> > > person get married. > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M> > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India> > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights> > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot ofremedies.> > > Will she get a good life partner.> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have> > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Venkat, What is your expectation? Is you expectation that one will give u a answer without first ascertaining the lagna properly? How is that possible. Please have realistic expectation. In KAS, and as per teachings of Krushnaji, we have to first make sure we are dealing with the right data and the chart. That is the procedure we mostly adopt on this list. That is also given clearly in the introductory page of this list so please take a few moments to read it if u haven’t so already. You are looking for a prediction. Please wait. Let the students discuss this chart. First and foremost it’s very important to ascertain the lagna. You also please give the facts as to the accuracy of the data. What is the source of the birth time? Help these students who are spending their time on the chart given by you. My assumption is that u have given this chart to the list so that u can help them learn? Students are putting in their effort to learn KAS. It’s also given clearly on the Introductory page of this list. U can follow this discussion, and also use these discussion to learn KAS. Please take this mail in the right spirit. Whatever answer you will get will be based on an exhaustive attempt with these young boys and girls, there after its in the hands of who so ever u have faith in. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Tammy Wood Tuesday September 25, 2007 11:09 PM Re: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Hi All, Thanks for the analysis, The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help us to know. Thanks Venkat harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: Dear Rajesh, date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to study to.. anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of virgo asc. thanks/regards harjeet , Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9 wrote: > > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members, > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate that. > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist should write month too with years, when giving passed events). > First I will take VIRGO Lagna > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th. > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat , even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also cannot be SD to Ven. > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation. > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because its imp for us. > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and Ra is SD Moon(LOE) > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to give marriage , why it broke ? > Ash we need your help here ? > > If I take Libra Lagna, > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D with 6 points( Match 100 %) > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%) > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a problem, All planets for 6th are high. > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less comparativily. > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage. > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP. > > Best Regards, > Rajesh > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Group, > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna. > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail. > > Regards > Anup > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Group, > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these which goes > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered. > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be taken as temporary basis, > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B. > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars and with 30 pts. > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house. > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th hosue. > > So now with which lagna to go with? > Libra or Virgo? > > So more and more events are required with dates for further validating lagna. > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with fewer events. > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here. > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am still awake all nite long > for some reasons. > > > Regards > Anup > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote: > Hello All, > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things. > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first) > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is facing lot of problems at work place . > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In general she ls ordinary person. > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you. > > Thanks > Venkat > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji, > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening > antra for the native. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the > > native might be in high post. > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial. > > Ashji can guide on this. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , Raj Rajesh > > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash, > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others. > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance / > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive , > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > Is native look younger than her age etc > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/ > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009. > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and > > suddenly stopped spending money too much. > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more > > expense. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards, > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat, > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate. > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay period > > > is over. > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no > > > blessings from father or guru. > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house. > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords. > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn. > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12. > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4. > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8. > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out. > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house. > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ? > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ? > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr. > > > if any feedback on that particular time? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , Tammy Wood > > > <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation. > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking > > > about divorce > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to > > > misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here. > > > > Taking Libra lagna.... > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will > > > break up. > > > > there is Jup delay. > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon. > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus, > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts. > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and > > > Moon shows > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social > life. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members, > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning > > > this sysytem. > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5 > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra > > > Lagna. > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons. > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS. > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay > > > the marriage that much ? > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to > > > Nov 2009. > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it > > > can give marriage. > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007 > > > to Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ? > > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra > > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there > > > are no zeros there. > > > > > > > > Pls suggest. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > Hello Gurujis, > > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below > > > person get married. > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M > > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India > > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights > > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot of remedies. > > > Will she get a good life partner. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Ashji/Manu/all, i would give my calculation on this chart. your feed back would help to learn. i would fix virgo lagna. saturn here does most of the damage being 6th lord and aspecting all A,B.C,D and E houses or their lords. saturn is with 3 points so its sight is very harmful. further some rules for dealyed marriage for female.. are fullfilled. venus is natural karak and functional karak... both spoiled by saturn's sight. mars the important planet for female also recieves sight from saturn. and no blessings in the chart. one zero in 7th house in navamsa. i think marriage would be very very difficult. current antra of saturn... has sight to 11th house cant give marriage. saturn is lord of 6th so cant act as samdhari to any planet ? saturn is opposite to venus... so cant act as nsd to venus either. currently jupiter is going over scorpio.. so its over natal jupiter as well as aspecting 7th house. so can we say its giving 2 hits for rectifying the chart? next antra of mercury.. which is having sight of saturn in navamsa which is 6th lord here.. might give marriage in 2nd or 3rd antra. but somehow i feel its a chart of denial. i would wait for views and guidance from other senior members. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Venkat, > > > > What is your expectation? Is you expectation that one will give u a answer > without first ascertaining the lagna properly? How is that possible. > > Please have realistic expectation. In KAS, and as per teachings of > Krushnaji, we have to first make sure we are dealing with the right data and > the chart. That is the procedure we mostly adopt on this list. > > That is also given clearly in the introductory page of this list so please > take a few moments to read it if u haven't so already. > > > > You are looking for a prediction. Please wait. Let the students discuss > this chart. First and foremost it's very important to ascertain the lagna. > > You also please give the facts as to the accuracy of the data. What is the > source of the birth time? Help these students who are spending their time > on the chart given by you. My assumption is that u have given this chart to > the list so that u can help them learn? > > Students are putting in their effort to learn KAS. It's also given clearly > on the Introductory page of this list. > > U can follow this discussion, and also use these discussion to learn KAS. > > Please take this mail in the right spirit. Whatever answer you will get > will be based on an exhaustive attempt with these young boys and girls, > there after its in the hands of who so ever u have faith in. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Tammy Wood > Tuesday September 25, 2007 11:09 PM > > Re: Re: please predict about the > marriage help -more datas > > > > Hi All, > > Thanks for the analysis, > > The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. > > She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. > > Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help > us to know. > > > > Thanks > > Venkat > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Rajesh, > date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to > study to.. > anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides > jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of > virgo asc. > thanks/regards > harjeet > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Raj Rajesh > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members, > > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate > that. > > > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist > should write month too with years, when giving passed events). > > First I will take VIRGO Lagna > > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup > can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th. > > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat , > even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also > cannot be SD to Ven. > > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation. > > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because > its imp for us. > > > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is > exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and > Ra is SD Moon(LOE) > > > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat > > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to > give marriage , why it broke ? > > Ash we need your help here ? > > > > If I take Libra Lagna, > > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D > with 6 points( Match 100 %) > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%) > > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a > problem, All planets for 6th are high. > > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also > the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less > comparativily. > > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense > with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I > am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage. > > > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP. > > > > Best Regards, > > Rajesh > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna. > > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these > which goes > > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after > 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken > engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th > houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered. > > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be > taken as temporary basis, > > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B. > > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars > and with 30 pts. > > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house. > > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th > hosue. > > > > So now with which lagna to go with? > > Libra or Virgo? > > > > So more and more events are required with dates for further > validating lagna. > > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with > fewer events. > > > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here. > > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am > still awake all nite long > > for some reasons. > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > Hello All, > > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to > virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things. > > > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first) > > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life > > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job > > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is > facing lot of problems at work place . > > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher > > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In > general she ls ordinary person. > > > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you. > > > > Thanks > > Venkat > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji, > > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house > > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening > > antra for the native. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the > > > native might be in high post. > > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in > > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial. > > > Ashji can guide on this. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Raj Rajesh > > > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash, > > > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is > > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the > > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly > > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others. > > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like > > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance / > > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any > > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive , > > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > > Is native look younger than her age etc > > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/ > > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009. > > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare > > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and > > > suddenly stopped spending money too much. > > > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna > > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase > > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making > > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more > > > expense. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards, > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat, > > > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate. > > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay > period > > > > is over. > > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no > > > > blessings from father or guru. > > > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house. > > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords. > > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn. > > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12. > > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4. > > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8. > > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out. > > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house. > > > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ? > > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ? > > > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th > > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr. > > > > if any feedback on that particular time? > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Tammy Wood > > > > <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation. > > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking > > > > about divorce > > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to > > > > misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help > > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here. > > > > > Taking Libra lagna.... > > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will > > > > break up. > > > > > there is Jup delay. > > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon. > > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus, > > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts. > > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and > > > > Moon shows > > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social > > life. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members, > > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning > > > > this sysytem. > > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5 > > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra > > > > Lagna. > > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons. > > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB > > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars > > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house > > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha > > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha > > > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS. > > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay > > > > the marriage that much ? > > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to > > > > Nov 2009. > > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it > > > > can give marriage. > > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector > > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007 > > > > to Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in > > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ? > > > > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra > > > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there > > > > are no zeros there. > > > > > > > > > > Pls suggest. > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > Hello Gurujis, > > > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below > > > > person get married. > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M > > > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India > > > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights > > > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot of > remedies. > > > > Will she get a good life partner. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear All, With Virgo lagna lagna points are 33 and with Libra the lagna SAV is 27. Spending trend with virgo shows more spending trend, and its not so with libra. 0 in 5th house with libra so see what happened when sa or ma passed over 0 points and there are no 0 with virgo. Check 11th vs 12th points to see what was going on w.r.t antra during that time. No one has asked this lady’s career either? Find out that and see which lagna matches. Is the nature of the girl more Virgo or Libra? These are additional things you can check. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 26, 2007 12:33 PM Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Ashji/Manu/all, i would give my calculation on this chart. your feed back would help to learn. i would fix virgo lagna. saturn here does most of the damage being 6th lord and aspecting all A,B.C,D and E houses or their lords. saturn is with 3 points so its sight is very harmful. further some rules for dealyed marriage for female.. are fullfilled. venus is natural karak and functional karak... both spoiled by saturn's sight. mars the important planet for female also recieves sight from saturn. and no blessings in the chart. one zero in 7th house in navamsa. i think marriage would be very very difficult. current antra of saturn... has sight to 11th house cant give marriage. saturn is lord of 6th so cant act as samdhari to any planet ? saturn is opposite to venus... so cant act as nsd to venus either. currently jupiter is going over scorpio.. so its over natal jupiter as well as aspecting 7th house. so can we say its giving 2 hits for rectifying the chart? next antra of mercury.. which is having sight of saturn in navamsa which is 6th lord here.. might give marriage in 2nd or 3rd antra. but somehow i feel its a chart of denial. i would wait for views and guidance from other senior members. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Venkat, > > > > What is your expectation? Is you expectation that one will give u a answer > without first ascertaining the lagna properly? How is that possible. > > Please have realistic expectation. In KAS, and as per teachings of > Krushnaji, we have to first make sure we are dealing with the right data and > the chart. That is the procedure we mostly adopt on this list. > > That is also given clearly in the introductory page of this list so please > take a few moments to read it if u haven't so already. > > > > You are looking for a prediction. Please wait. Let the students discuss > this chart. First and foremost it's very important to ascertain the lagna. > > You also please give the facts as to the accuracy of the data. What is the > source of the birth time? Help these students who are spending their time > on the chart given by you. My assumption is that u have given this chart to > the list so that u can help them learn? > > Students are putting in their effort to learn KAS. It's also given clearly > on the Introductory page of this list. > > U can follow this discussion, and also use these discussion to learn KAS. > > Please take this mail in the right spirit. Whatever answer you will get > will be based on an exhaustive attempt with these young boys and girls, > there after its in the hands of who so ever u have faith in. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Tammy Wood > Tuesday September 25, 2007 11:09 PM > > Re: Re: please predict about the > marriage help -more datas > > > > Hi All, > > Thanks for the analysis, > > The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. > > She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. > > Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help > us to know. > > > > Thanks > > Venkat > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Rajesh, > date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to > study to.. > anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides > jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of > virgo asc. > thanks/regards > harjeet > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Raj Rajesh > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members, > > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate > that. > > > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist > should write month too with years, when giving passed events). > > First I will take VIRGO Lagna > > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup > can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th. > > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat , > even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also > cannot be SD to Ven. > > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation. > > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because > its imp for us. > > > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is > exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and > Ra is SD Moon(LOE) > > > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat > > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to > give marriage , why it broke ? > > Ash we need your help here ? > > > > If I take Libra Lagna, > > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D > with 6 points( Match 100 %) > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%) > > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a > problem, All planets for 6th are high. > > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also > the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less > comparativily. > > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense > with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I > am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage. > > > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP. > > > > Best Regards, > > Rajesh > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna. > > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these > which goes > > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after > 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken > engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th > houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered. > > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be > taken as temporary basis, > > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B. > > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars > and with 30 pts. > > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house. > > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th > hosue. > > > > So now with which lagna to go with? > > Libra or Virgo? > > > > So more and more events are required with dates for further > validating lagna. > > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with > fewer events. > > > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here. > > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am > still awake all nite long > > for some reasons. > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > Hello All, > > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to > virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things. > > > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first) > > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life > > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job > > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is > facing lot of problems at work place . > > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher > > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In > general she ls ordinary person. > > > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you. > > > > Thanks > > Venkat > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji, > > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house > > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening > > antra for the native. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the > > > native might be in high post. > > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in > > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial. > > > Ashji can guide on this. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Raj Rajesh > > > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash, > > > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is > > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the > > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly > > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others. > > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like > > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance / > > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any > > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive , > > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > > Is native look younger than her age etc > > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/ > > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009. > > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare > > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and > > > suddenly stopped spending money too much. > > > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna > > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase > > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making > > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more > > > expense. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards, > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat, > > > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate. > > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay > period > > > > is over. > > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no > > > > blessings from father or guru. > > > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house. > > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords. > > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn. > > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12. > > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4. > > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8. > > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out. > > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house. > > > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ? > > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ? > > > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th > > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr. > > > > if any feedback on that particular time? > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Tammy Wood > > > > <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation. > > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking > > > > about divorce > > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to > > > > misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help > > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here. > > > > > Taking Libra lagna.... > > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will > > > > break up. > > > > > there is Jup delay. > > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon. > > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus, > > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts. > > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and > > > > Moon shows > > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social > > life. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members, > > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning > > > > this sysytem. > > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5 > > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra > > > > Lagna. > > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons. > > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB > > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars > > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house > > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha > > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha > > > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS. > > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay > > > > the marriage that much ? > > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to > > > > Nov 2009. > > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it > > > > can give marriage. > > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector > > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007 > > > > to Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in > > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ? > > > > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra > > > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there > > > > are no zeros there. > > > > > > > > > > Pls suggest. > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > Hello Gurujis, > > > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below > > > > person get married. > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M > > > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India > > > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights > > > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot of > remedies. > > > > Will she get a good life partner. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Ash, Thanks, i got it what you indicated....i missed that too...career..v/s chart:) Regards AnupAsh <kas wrote: Dear All, With Virgo lagna lagna points are 33 and with Libra the lagna SAV is 27. Spending trend with virgo shows more spending trend, and its not so with libra. 0 in 5th house with libra so see what happened when sa or ma passed over 0 points and there are no 0 with virgo. Check 11th vs 12th points to see what was going on w.r.t antra during that time. No one has asked this lady’s career either? Find out that and see which lagna matches. Is the nature of the girl more Virgo or Libra? These are additional things you can check. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshiWednesday September 26, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Ashji/Manu/all,i would give my calculation on this chart. your feed back would helpto learn.i would fix virgo lagna.saturn here does most of the damage being 6th lord and aspecting allA,B.C,D and E houses or their lords. saturn is with 3 points so itssight is very harmful.further some rules for dealyed marriage for female.. are fullfilled.venus is natural karak and functional karak... both spoiled bysaturn's sight. mars the important planet for female also recieves sight from saturn.and no blessings in the chart. one zero in 7th house in navamsa.i think marriage would be very very difficult.current antra of saturn... has sight to 11th house cant give marriage.saturn is lord of 6th so cant act as samdhari to any planet ?saturn is opposite to venus... so cant act as nsd to venus either.currently jupiter is going over scorpio.. so its over natal jupiter aswell as aspecting 7th house. so can we say its giving 2 hits forrectifying the chart?next antra of mercury.. which is having sight of saturn in navamsawhich is 6th lord here.. might give marriage in 2nd or 3rd antra.but somehow i feel its a chart of denial.i would wait for views and guidance from other senior members.thanks/regardsharjeet , "Ash" <kas wrote:>> Dear Venkat,> > > > What is your expectation? Is you expectation that one will give u aanswer> without first ascertaining the lagna properly? How is that possible.> > Please have realistic expectation. In KAS, and as per teachings of> Krushnaji, we have to first make sure we are dealing with the rightdata and> the chart. That is the procedure we mostly adopt on this list.> > That is also given clearly in the introductory page of this list soplease> take a few moments to read it if u haven't so already.> > > > You are looking for a prediction. Please wait. Let the studentsdiscuss> this chart. First and foremost it's very important to ascertain thelagna.> > You also please give the facts as to the accuracy of the data. Whatis the> source of the birth time? Help these students who are spendingtheir time> on the chart given by you. My assumption is that u have given thischart to> the list so that u can help them learn?> > Students are putting in their effort to learn KAS. It's also givenclearly> on the Introductory page of this list.> > U can follow this discussion, and also use these discussion to learnKAS.> > Please take this mail in the right spirit. Whatever answer you will get> will be based on an exhaustive attempt with these young boys and girls,> there after its in the hands of who so ever u have faith in.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of TammyWood> Tuesday September 25, 2007 11:09 PM> > Re: Re: please predict about the> marriage help -more datas> > > > Hi All,> > Thanks for the analysis,> > The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. > > She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996April./May.> > Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or notplease help> us to know.> > > > Thanks> > Venkat> > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> > Dear Rajesh,> date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to> study to..> anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides> jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of> virgo asc.> thanks/regards> harjeet> astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> Raj Rajesh> <astro_raj9@> wrote:> >> > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members,> > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate> that.> > > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist> should write month too with years, when giving passed events).> > First I will take VIRGO Lagna> > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup> can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th.> > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat ,> even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also> cannot be SD to Ven.> > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation.> > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because> its imp for us.> > > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is> exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and> Ra is SD Moon(LOE)> > > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat> > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to> give marriage , why it broke ?> > Ash we need your help here ?> > > > If I take Libra Lagna,> > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D> with 6 points( Match 100 %)> > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%)> > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a> problem, All planets for 6th are high.> > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also> the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less> comparativily.> > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense> with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I> am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage.> > > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP.> > > > Best Regards,> > Rajesh> > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > Dear Group,> > > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna.> > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail.> > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > Dear Group,> > > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these> which goes > > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after> 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken> engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th> houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can beconsidered.> > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be> taken as temporary basis,> > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B.> > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars> and with 30 pts.> > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house.> > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th> hosue.> > > > So now with which lagna to go with?> > Libra or Virgo?> > > > So more and more events are required with dates for further> validating lagna.> > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with> fewer events. > > > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here.> > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am> still awake all nite long> > for some reasons.> > > > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote:> > Hello All,> > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to> virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things.> > > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first)> > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life> > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job> > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is> facing lot of problems at work place .> > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher> > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In> general she ls ordinary person.> > > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you.> > > > Thanks> > Venkat> > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji,> > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house> > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening> > antra for the native.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> "harjeet bakshi"> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Rajesh,> > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the> > > native might be in high post.> > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in> > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial.> > > Ashji can guide on this.> > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> Raj Rajesh> > > <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash,> > > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is> > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure fromboth the> > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly> > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others.> > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like> > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance /> > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any> > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive ,> > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > > Is native look younger than her age etc> > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/> > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009.> > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare> > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and> > > suddenly stopped spending money too much.> > > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna> > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase> > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is notmaking> > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more> > > expense. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards,> > > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat,> > > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate.> > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay> period> > > > is over.> > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no> > > > blessings from father or guru.> > > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12thhouse.> > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords.> > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn.> > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12.> > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4.> > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8.> > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out.> > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house.> > > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ?> > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ?> > > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th> > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr.> > > > if any feedback on that particular time?> > > > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> Tammy Wood> > > > <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hello All,> > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation.> > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking> > > > about divorce > > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004due to> > > > misunderstanding.> > > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help> > > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here.> > > > > Taking Libra lagna....> > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will> > > > break up.> > > > > there is Jup delay.> > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon.> > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus,> > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts.> > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors ofSun and> > > > Moon shows> > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social> > life.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members,> > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning> > > > this sysytem.> > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5> > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is thisLibra> > > > Lagna.> > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons.> > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB> > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars> > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house> > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha> > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha> > > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS.> > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay> > > > the marriage that much ?> > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat fromsept,2006 to> > > > Nov 2009.> > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it> > > > can give marriage.> > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector> > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that isoct 2007> > > > to Nov 2008.> > > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not getmarried in> > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ?> > > > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra> > > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven butthere> > > > are no zeros there.> > > > > > > > > > Pls suggest.> > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > > > Hello Gurujis,> > > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below> > > > person get married. > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M> > > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India> > > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw somelights> > > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot of> remedies.> > > > Will she get a good life partner.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Anup and all, How do you all know that the difference is only 5 mins and that the lagna might be Virgo or Libra? What if there are hours of difference or what if the day was recorded wrong? How do we know that for sure? That might also be a possibility as well and we need to first remove that as well. Here the assumption is that the time given is 5:05 AM? What is the source? This would mean that Venkat must also come forward and give the source. Maybe it was recorded correctly as some familes are pretty stringent about astrology and sometimes some people are not and go by an approximate time when watch is not available. So also keep that scenario in mind as well. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. M Wednesday September 26, 2007 2:11 PM RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Ash, Thanks, i got it what you indicated....i missed that too...career..v/s chart:) Regards Anup Ash <kas wrote: Dear All, With Virgo lagna lagna points are 33 and with Libra the lagna SAV is 27. Spending trend with virgo shows more spending trend, and its not so with libra. 0 in 5th house with libra so see what happened when sa or ma passed over 0 points and there are no 0 with virgo. Check 11th vs 12th points to see what was going on w.r.t antra during that time. No one has asked this lady’s career either? Find out that and see which lagna matches. Is the nature of the girl more Virgo or Libra? These are additional things you can check. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Wednesday September 26, 2007 12:33 PM Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Ashji/Manu/all, i would give my calculation on this chart. your feed back would help to learn. i would fix virgo lagna. saturn here does most of the damage being 6th lord and aspecting all A,B.C,D and E houses or their lords. saturn is with 3 points so its sight is very harmful. further some rules for dealyed marriage for female.. are fullfilled. venus is natural karak and functional karak... both spoiled by saturn's sight. mars the important planet for female also recieves sight from saturn. and no blessings in the chart. one zero in 7th house in navamsa. i think marriage would be very very difficult. current antra of saturn... has sight to 11th house cant give marriage. saturn is lord of 6th so cant act as samdhari to any planet ? saturn is opposite to venus... so cant act as nsd to venus either. currently jupiter is going over scorpio.. so its over natal jupiter as well as aspecting 7th house. so can we say its giving 2 hits for rectifying the chart? next antra of mercury.. which is having sight of saturn in navamsa which is 6th lord here.. might give marriage in 2nd or 3rd antra. but somehow i feel its a chart of denial. i would wait for views and guidance from other senior members. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Venkat, > > > > What is your expectation? Is you expectation that one will give u a answer > without first ascertaining the lagna properly? How is that possible. > > Please have realistic expectation. In KAS, and as per teachings of > Krushnaji, we have to first make sure we are dealing with the right data and > the chart. That is the procedure we mostly adopt on this list. > > That is also given clearly in the introductory page of this list so please > take a few moments to read it if u haven't so already. > > > > You are looking for a prediction. Please wait. Let the students discuss > this chart. First and foremost it's very important to ascertain the lagna. > > You also please give the facts as to the accuracy of the data. What is the > source of the birth time? Help these students who are spending their time > on the chart given by you. My assumption is that u have given this chart to > the list so that u can help them learn? > > Students are putting in their effort to learn KAS. It's also given clearly > on the Introductory page of this list. > > U can follow this discussion, and also use these discussion to learn KAS. > > Please take this mail in the right spirit. Whatever answer you will get > will be based on an exhaustive attempt with these young boys and girls, > there after its in the hands of who so ever u have faith in. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Tammy Wood > Tuesday September 25, 2007 11:09 PM > > Re: Re: please predict about the > marriage help -more datas > > > > Hi All, > > Thanks for the analysis, > > The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. > > She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. > > Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help > us to know. > > > > Thanks > > Venkat > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Rajesh, > date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to > study to.. > anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides > jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of > virgo asc. > thanks/regards > harjeet > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Raj Rajesh > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members, > > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate > that. > > > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist > should write month too with years, when giving passed events). > > First I will take VIRGO Lagna > > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup > can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th. > > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat , > even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also > cannot be SD to Ven. > > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation. > > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because > its imp for us. > > > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is > exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and > Ra is SD Moon(LOE) > > > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat > > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to > give marriage , why it broke ? > > Ash we need your help here ? > > > > If I take Libra Lagna, > > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D > with 6 points( Match 100 %) > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%) > > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a > problem, All planets for 6th are high. > > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also > the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less > comparativily. > > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense > with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I > am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage. > > > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP. > > > > Best Regards, > > Rajesh > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna. > > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these > which goes > > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after > 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken > engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th > houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered. > > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be > taken as temporary basis, > > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B. > > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars > and with 30 pts. > > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house. > > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th > hosue. > > > > So now with which lagna to go with? > > Libra or Virgo? > > > > So more and more events are required with dates for further > validating lagna. > > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with > fewer events. > > > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here. > > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am > still awake all nite long > > for some reasons. > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > Hello All, > > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to > virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things. > > > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first) > > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life > > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job > > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is > facing lot of problems at work place . > > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher > > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In > general she ls ordinary person. > > > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you. > > > > Thanks > > Venkat > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji, > > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house > > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening > > antra for the native. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the > > > native might be in high post. > > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in > > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial. > > > Ashji can guide on this. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Raj Rajesh > > > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash, > > > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is > > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the > > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly > > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others. > > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like > > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance / > > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any > > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive , > > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > > Is native look younger than her age etc > > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/ > > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009. > > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare > > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and > > > suddenly stopped spending money too much. > > > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna > > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase > > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making > > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more > > > expense. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards, > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat, > > > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate. > > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay > period > > > > is over. > > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no > > > > blessings from father or guru. > > > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house. > > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords. > > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn. > > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12. > > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4. > > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8. > > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out. > > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house. > > > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ? > > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ? > > > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th > > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr. > > > > if any feedback on that particular time? > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Tammy Wood > > > > <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation. > > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking > > > > about divorce > > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to > > > > misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help > > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here. > > > > > Taking Libra lagna.... > > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will > > > > break up. > > > > > there is Jup delay. > > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon. > > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus, > > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts. > > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and > > > > Moon shows > > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social > > life. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members, > > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning > > > > this sysytem. > > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5 > > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra > > > > Lagna. > > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons. > > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB > > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars > > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house > > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha > > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha > > > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS. > > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay > > > > the marriage that much ? > > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to > > > > Nov 2009. > > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it > > > > can give marriage. > > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector > > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007 > > > > to Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in > > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ? > > > > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra > > > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there > > > > are no zeros there. > > > > > > > > > > Pls suggest. > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > Hello Gurujis, > > > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below > > > > person get married. > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M > > > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India > > > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights > > > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot of > remedies. > > > > Will she get a good life partner. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Harjeet/Ash/Manu/Anup/Ramesh and List members, I would give my calculations on this chart. Please please correct me wherever I am wrong. I think Libra is the Asc . Both Lagnas are very close and I am confused too but still I will go with Libra Because of lot of reasons. 1) 6th Lord jup always gives worst results as compare to 6th lord sat. 2) Sat aspect House A, the starting point. 3) Sat aspect LOB and LOA 4) Now Jup, which is Also 6TH lORD, is with LOA and LOB in Navamsha 6) Jup is spoiling FK Venus. 7) The most imp. factor, which is not there in Virgo Lagna is, SAT IS GIVING ZERO, in 5th house. So the kartatwa of 9th,10th,4th and 3rd are affected. Zeros are most imp in delaying the marriage other than just the aspect of sat and jup. 8) Most of the events are better in line with the Libra Lagna like graduation, job and most imp. the breakage of engagement. It happened in the period of 6th lord Jup. Of course Jup did that here but If we take virgo Lagna, Jup DEFINATELY would have given marriage because it is the LOD and it has second highest point, 19. but marriage broke. 9) Another imp point is , 7th SAV points are just 21 which are the lowest in the chart 10) She face problems at work place or ordinary jobs because 10th lord is in 6th with 6 points. If this is the correct Lagna, Native is going through Sat antra, which is LOD and it has 19 points , so native will definately get married before Oct 2009. Pls suggest. Thanks and Best Regards, Rajeshharjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: Dear Ashji/Manu/all,i would give my calculation on this chart. your feed back would helpto learn.i would fix virgo lagna.saturn here does most of the damage being 6th lord and aspecting allA,B.C,D and E houses or their lords. saturn is with 3 points so itssight is very harmful.further some rules for dealyed marriage for female.. are fullfilled.venus is natural karak and functional karak... both spoiled bysaturn's sight. mars the important planet for female also recieves sight from saturn.and no blessings in the chart. one zero in 7th house in navamsa.i think marriage would be very very difficult.current antra of saturn... has sight to 11th house cant give marriage.saturn is lord of 6th so cant act as samdhari to any planet ?saturn is opposite to venus... so cant act as nsd to venus either.currently jupiter is going over scorpio.. so its over natal jupiter aswell as aspecting 7th house. so can we say its giving 2 hits forrectifying the chart?next antra of mercury.. which is having sight of saturn in navamsawhich is 6th lord here.. might give marriage in 2nd or 3rd antra.but somehow i feel its a chart of denial.i would wait for views and guidance from other senior members.thanks/regardsharjeet , "Ash" <kas wrote:>> Dear Venkat,> > > > What is your expectation? Is you expectation that one will give u aanswer> without first ascertaining the lagna properly? How is that possible.> > Please have realistic expectation. In KAS, and as per teachings of> Krushnaji, we have to first make sure we are dealing with the rightdata and> the chart. That is the procedure we mostly adopt on this list.> > That is also given clearly in the introductory page of this list soplease> take a few moments to read it if u haven't so already.> > > > You are looking for a prediction. Please wait. Let the studentsdiscuss> this chart. First and foremost it's very important to ascertain thelagna.> > You also please give the facts as to the accuracy of the data. Whatis the> source of the birth time? Help these students who are spendingtheir time> on the chart given by you. My assumption is that u have given thischart to> the list so that u can help them learn?> > Students are putting in their effort to learn KAS. It's also givenclearly> on the Introductory page of this list.> > U can follow this discussion, and also use these discussion to learnKAS.> > Please take this mail in the right spirit. Whatever answer you will get> will be based on an exhaustive attempt with these young boys and girls,> there after its in the hands of who so ever u have faith in.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of TammyWood> Tuesday September 25, 2007 11:09 PM> > Re: Re: please predict about the> marriage help -more datas> > > > Hi All,> > Thanks for the analysis,> > The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. > > She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996April./May.> > Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or notplease help> us to know.> > > > Thanks> > Venkat> > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> > Dear Rajesh,> date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to> study to..> anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides> jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of> virgo asc.> thanks/regards> harjeet> astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> Raj Rajesh> <astro_raj9@> wrote:> >> > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members,> > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate> that.> > > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist> should write month too with years, when giving passed events).> > First I will take VIRGO Lagna> > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup> can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th.> > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat ,> even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also> cannot be SD to Ven.> > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation.> > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because> its imp for us.> > > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is> exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and> Ra is SD Moon(LOE)> > > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat> > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to> give marriage , why it broke ?> > Ash we need your help here ?> > > > If I take Libra Lagna,> > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D> with 6 points( Match 100 %)> > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%)> > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a> problem, All planets for 6th are high.> > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also> the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less> comparativily.> > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense> with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I> am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage.> > > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP.> > > > Best Regards,> > Rajesh> > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > Dear Group,> > > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna.> > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail.> > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > Dear Group,> > > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these> which goes > > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after> 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken> engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th> houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can beconsidered.> > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be> taken as temporary basis,> > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B.> > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars> and with 30 pts.> > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house.> > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th> hosue.> > > > So now with which lagna to go with?> > Libra or Virgo?> > > > So more and more events are required with dates for further> validating lagna.> > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with> fewer events. > > > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here.> > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am> still awake all nite long> > for some reasons.> > > > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote:> > Hello All,> > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to> virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things.> > > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first)> > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life> > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job> > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is> facing lot of problems at work place .> > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher> > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In> general she ls ordinary person.> > > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you.> > > > Thanks> > Venkat> > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji,> > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house> > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening> > antra for the native.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> "harjeet bakshi"> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Rajesh,> > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the> > > native might be in high post.> > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in> > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial.> > > Ashji can guide on this.> > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> Raj Rajesh> > > <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash,> > > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is> > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure fromboth the> > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly> > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others.> > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like> > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance /> > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any> > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive ,> > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > > Is native look younger than her age etc> > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/> > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009.> > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare> > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and> > > suddenly stopped spending money too much.> > > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna> > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase> > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is notmaking> > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more> > > expense. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards,> > > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat,> > > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate.> > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay> period> > > > is over.> > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no> > > > blessings from father or guru.> > > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12thhouse.> > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords.> > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn.> > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12.> > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4.> > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8.> > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out.> > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house.> > > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ?> > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ?> > > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th> > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr.> > > > if any feedback on that particular time?> > > > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> Tammy Wood> > > > <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hello All,> > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation.> > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking> > > > about divorce > > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004due to> > > > misunderstanding.> > > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help> > > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here.> > > > > Taking Libra lagna....> > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will> > > > break up.> > > > > there is Jup delay.> > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon.> > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus,> > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts.> > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors ofSun and> > > > Moon shows> > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social> > life.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members,> > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning> > > > this sysytem.> > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5> > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is thisLibra> > > > Lagna.> > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons.> > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB> > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars> > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house> > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha> > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha> > > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS.> > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay> > > > the marriage that much ?> > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat fromsept,2006 to> > > > Nov 2009.> > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it> > > > can give marriage.> > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector> > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that isoct 2007> > > > to Nov 2008.> > > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not getmarried in> > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ?> > > > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra> > > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven butthere> > > > are no zeros there.> > > > > > > > > > Pls suggest.> > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > > > Hello Gurujis,> > > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below> > > > person get married. > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M> > > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India> > > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw somelights> > > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot of> remedies.> > > > Will she get a good life partner.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Ash and Mr. Venkat, You are absolutely right. Mr. Venkat is more concerned about the result rather than helping us here. If you go through my last few mails , I have asked him specifically about the passed events, nature of the person, income in the running antra etc etc . But he has not given us proper reply.He is not appreciating the hard work which we all are putting in. So Mr. Venkat if you want us to go ahead and try to give you our predictions, pls reply to all our questions which Ash, Harjit and myself have asked ? We are more than happy to help you. But pls help us here too. Thanks & Regards, Rajesh Ash <kas wrote: Dear Anup and all, How do you all know that the difference is only 5 mins and that the lagna might be Virgo or Libra? What if there are hours of difference or what if the day was recorded wrong? How do we know that for sure? That might also be a possibility as well and we need to first remove that as well. Here the assumption is that the time given is 5:05 AM? What is the source? This would mean that Venkat must also come forward and give the source. Maybe it was recorded correctly as some familes are pretty stringent about astrology and sometimes some people are not and go by an approximate time when watch is not available. So also keep that scenario in mind as well. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. MWednesday September 26, 2007 2:11 PM Subject: RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Ash, Thanks, i got it what you indicated....i missed that too...career..v/s chart:) Regards AnupAsh <kas wrote: Dear All, With Virgo lagna lagna points are 33 and with Libra the lagna SAV is 27. Spending trend with virgo shows more spending trend, and its not so with libra. 0 in 5th house with libra so see what happened when sa or ma passed over 0 points and there are no 0 with virgo. Check 11th vs 12th points to see what was going on w.r.t antra during that time. No one has asked this lady’s career either? Find out that and see which lagna matches. Is the nature of the girl more Virgo or Libra? These are additional things you can check. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshiWednesday September 26, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Ashji/Manu/all,i would give my calculation on this chart. your feed back would helpto learn.i would fix virgo lagna.saturn here does most of the damage being 6th lord and aspecting allA,B.C,D and E houses or their lords. saturn is with 3 points so itssight is very harmful.further some rules for dealyed marriage for female.. are fullfilled.venus is natural karak and functional karak... both spoiled bysaturn's sight. mars the important planet for female also recieves sight from saturn.and no blessings in the chart. one zero in 7th house in navamsa.i think marriage would be very very difficult.current antra of saturn... has sight to 11th house cant give marriage.saturn is lord of 6th so cant act as samdhari to any planet ?saturn is opposite to venus... so cant act as nsd to venus either.currently jupiter is going over scorpio.. so its over natal jupiter aswell as aspecting 7th house. so can we say its giving 2 hits forrectifying the chart?next antra of mercury.. which is having sight of saturn in navamsawhich is 6th lord here.. might give marriage in 2nd or 3rd antra.but somehow i feel its a chart of denial.i would wait for views and guidance from other senior members.thanks/regardsharjeet , "Ash" <kas wrote:>> Dear Venkat,> > > > What is your expectation? Is you expectation that one will give u aanswer> without first ascertaining the lagna properly? How is that possible.> > Please have realistic expectation. In KAS, and as per teachings of> Krushnaji, we have to first make sure we are dealing with the rightdata and> the chart. That is the procedure we mostly adopt on this list.> > That is also given clearly in the introductory page of this list soplease> take a few moments to read it if u haven't so already.> > > > You are looking for a prediction. Please wait. Let the studentsdiscuss> this chart. First and foremost it's very important to ascertain thelagna.> > You also please give the facts as to the accuracy of the data. Whatis the> source of the birth time? Help these students who are spendingtheir time> on the chart given by you. My assumption is that u have given thischart to> the list so that u can help them learn?> > Students are putting in their effort to learn KAS. It's also givenclearly> on the Introductory page of this list.> > U can follow this discussion, and also use these discussion to learnKAS.> > Please take this mail in the right spirit. Whatever answer you will get> will be based on an exhaustive attempt with these young boys and girls,> there after its in the hands of who so ever u have faith in.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of TammyWood> Tuesday September 25, 2007 11:09 PM> > Re: Re: please predict about the> marriage help -more datas> > > > Hi All,> > Thanks for the analysis,> > The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. > > She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996April./May.> > Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or notplease help> us to know.> > > > Thanks> > Venkat> > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> > Dear Rajesh,> date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to> study to..> anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides> jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of> virgo asc.> thanks/regards> harjeet> astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> Raj Rajesh> <astro_raj9@> wrote:> >> > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members,> > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate> that.> > > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist> should write month too with years, when giving passed events).> > First I will take VIRGO Lagna> > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup> can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th.> > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat ,> even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also> cannot be SD to Ven.> > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation.> > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because> its imp for us.> > > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is> exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and> Ra is SD Moon(LOE)> > > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat> > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to> give marriage , why it broke ?> > Ash we need your help here ?> > > > If I take Libra Lagna,> > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D> with 6 points( Match 100 %)> > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%)> > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a> problem, All planets for 6th are high.> > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also> the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less> comparativily.> > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense> with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I> am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage.> > > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP.> > > > Best Regards,> > Rajesh> > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > Dear Group,> > > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna.> > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail.> > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > Dear Group,> > > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these> which goes > > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after> 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken> engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th> houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can beconsidered.> > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be> taken as temporary basis,> > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B.> > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars> and with 30 pts.> > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house.> > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th> hosue.> > > > So now with which lagna to go with?> > Libra or Virgo?> > > > So more and more events are required with dates for further> validating lagna.> > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with> fewer events. > > > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here.> > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am> still awake all nite long> > for some reasons.> > > > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote:> > Hello All,> > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to> virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things.> > > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first)> > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life> > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job> > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is> facing lot of problems at work place .> > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher> > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In> general she ls ordinary person.> > > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you.> > > > Thanks> > Venkat> > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji,> > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house> > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening> > antra for the native.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> "harjeet bakshi"> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Rajesh,> > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the> > > native might be in high post.> > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in> > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial.> > > Ashji can guide on this.> > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> Raj Rajesh> > > <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash,> > > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is> > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure fromboth the> > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly> > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others.> > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like> > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance /> > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any> > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive ,> > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > > Is native look younger than her age etc> > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/> > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009.> > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare> > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and> > > suddenly stopped spending money too much.> > > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna> > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase> > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is notmaking> > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more> > > expense. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards,> > > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat,> > > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate.> > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay> period> > > > is over.> > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no> > > > blessings from father or guru.> > > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12thhouse.> > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords.> > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn.> > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12.> > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4.> > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8.> > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out.> > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house.> > > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ?> > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ?> > > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th> > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr.> > > > if any feedback on that particular time?> > > > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> Tammy Wood> > > > <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hello All,> > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation.> > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking> > > > about divorce > > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004due to> > > > misunderstanding.> > > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help> > > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here.> > > > > Taking Libra lagna....> > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will> > > > break up.> > > > > there is Jup delay.> > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon.> > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus,> > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts.> > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors ofSun and> > > > Moon shows> > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social> > life.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members,> > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning> > > > this sysytem.> > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5> > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is thisLibra> > > > Lagna.> > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons.> > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB> > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars> > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house> > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha> > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha> > > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS.> > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay> > > > the marriage that much ?> > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat fromsept,2006 to> > > > Nov 2009.> > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it> > > > can give marriage.> > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector> > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that isoct 2007> > > > to Nov 2008.> > > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not getmarried in> > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ?> > > > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra> > > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven butthere> > > > are no zeros there.> > > > > > > > > > Pls suggest.> > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > > > Hello Gurujis,> > > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below> > > > person get married. > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M> > > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India> > > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw somelights> > > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot of> remedies.> > > > Will she get a good life partner.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Venkat, I have some important questions to ask on this chart for verification. Please tell about her father? What is her relationship with her father? You mentioned that the engagement (love) was broken. I take it u meant that she was in love with the boy and due to some misunderstanding the marriage was called off on the day of engagement? Can you tell a bit about the boy? What was their age difference? Please write about her father and her relationship. That will be good for rectification. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Raj Rajesh Wednesday September 26, 2007 2:17 PM Re: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Harjeet/Ash/Manu/Anup/Ramesh and List members, I would give my calculations on this chart. Please please correct me wherever I am wrong. I think Libra is the Asc . Both Lagnas are very close and I am confused too but still I will go with Libra Because of lot of reasons. 1) 6th Lord jup always gives worst results as compare to 6th lord sat. 2) Sat aspect House A, the starting point. 3) Sat aspect LOB and LOA 4) Now Jup, which is Also 6TH lORD, is with LOA and LOB in Navamsha 6) Jup is spoiling FK Venus. 7) The most imp. factor, which is not there in Virgo Lagna is, SAT IS GIVING ZERO, in 5th house. So the kartatwa of 9th,10th,4th and 3rd are affected. Zeros are most imp in delaying the marriage other than just the aspect of sat and jup. 8) Most of the events are better in line with the Libra Lagna like graduation, job and most imp. the breakage of engagement. It happened in the period of 6th lord Jup. Of course Jup did that here but If we take virgo Lagna, Jup DEFINATELY would have given marriage because it is the LOD and it has second highest point, 19. but marriage broke. 9) Another imp point is , 7th SAV points are just 21 which are the lowest in the chart 10) She face problems at work place or ordinary jobs because 10th lord is in 6th with 6 points. If this is the correct Lagna, Native is going through Sat antra, which is LOD and it has 19 points , so native will definately get married before Oct 2009. Pls suggest. Thanks and Best Regards, Rajesh harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: Dear Ashji/Manu/all, i would give my calculation on this chart. your feed back would help to learn. i would fix virgo lagna. saturn here does most of the damage being 6th lord and aspecting all A,B.C,D and E houses or their lords. saturn is with 3 points so its sight is very harmful. further some rules for dealyed marriage for female.. are fullfilled. venus is natural karak and functional karak... both spoiled by saturn's sight. mars the important planet for female also recieves sight from saturn. and no blessings in the chart. one zero in 7th house in navamsa. i think marriage would be very very difficult. current antra of saturn... has sight to 11th house cant give marriage. saturn is lord of 6th so cant act as samdhari to any planet ? saturn is opposite to venus... so cant act as nsd to venus either. currently jupiter is going over scorpio.. so its over natal jupiter as well as aspecting 7th house. so can we say its giving 2 hits for rectifying the chart? next antra of mercury.. which is having sight of saturn in navamsa which is 6th lord here.. might give marriage in 2nd or 3rd antra. but somehow i feel its a chart of denial. i would wait for views and guidance from other senior members. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Venkat, > > > > What is your expectation? Is you expectation that one will give u a answer > without first ascertaining the lagna properly? How is that possible. > > Please have realistic expectation. In KAS, and as per teachings of > Krushnaji, we have to first make sure we are dealing with the right data and > the chart. That is the procedure we mostly adopt on this list. > > That is also given clearly in the introductory page of this list so please > take a few moments to read it if u haven't so already. > > > > You are looking for a prediction. Please wait. Let the students discuss > this chart. First and foremost it's very important to ascertain the lagna. > > You also please give the facts as to the accuracy of the data. What is the > source of the birth time? Help these students who are spending their time > on the chart given by you. My assumption is that u have given this chart to > the list so that u can help them learn? > > Students are putting in their effort to learn KAS. It's also given clearly > on the Introductory page of this list. > > U can follow this discussion, and also use these discussion to learn KAS. > > Please take this mail in the right spirit. Whatever answer you will get > will be based on an exhaustive attempt with these young boys and girls, > there after its in the hands of who so ever u have faith in. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Tammy Wood > Tuesday September 25, 2007 11:09 PM > > Re: Re: please predict about the > marriage help -more datas > > > > Hi All, > > Thanks for the analysis, > > The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. > > She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. > > Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help > us to know. > > > > Thanks > > Venkat > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Rajesh, > date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to > study to.. > anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides > jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of > virgo asc. > thanks/regards > harjeet > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Raj Rajesh > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members, > > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate > that. > > > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist > should write month too with years, when giving passed events). > > First I will take VIRGO Lagna > > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup > can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th. > > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat , > even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also > cannot be SD to Ven. > > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation. > > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because > its imp for us. > > > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is > exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and > Ra is SD Moon(LOE) > > > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat > > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to > give marriage , why it broke ? > > Ash we need your help here ? > > > > If I take Libra Lagna, > > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D > with 6 points( Match 100 %) > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%) > > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a > problem, All planets for 6th are high. > > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also > the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less > comparativily. > > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense > with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I > am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage. > > > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP. > > > > Best Regards, > > Rajesh > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna. > > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these > which goes > > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after > 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken > engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th > houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered. > > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be > taken as temporary basis, > > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B. > > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars > and with 30 pts. > > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house. > > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th > hosue. > > > > So now with which lagna to go with? > > Libra or Virgo? > > > > So more and more events are required with dates for further > validating lagna. > > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with > fewer events. > > > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here. > > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am > still awake all nite long > > for some reasons. > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > Hello All, > > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to > virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things. > > > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first) > > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life > > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job > > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is > facing lot of problems at work place . > > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher > > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In > general she ls ordinary person. > > > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you. > > > > Thanks > > Venkat > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji, > > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house > > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening > > antra for the native. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the > > > native might be in high post. > > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in > > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial. > > > Ashji can guide on this. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Raj Rajesh > > > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash, > > > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is > > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the > > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly > > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others. > > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like > > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance / > > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any > > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive , > > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > > Is native look younger than her age etc > > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/ > > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009. > > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare > > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and > > > suddenly stopped spending money too much. > > > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna > > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase > > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making > > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more > > > expense. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards, > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat, > > > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate. > > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay > period > > > > is over. > > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no > > > > blessings from father or guru. > > > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house. > > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords. > > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn. > > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12. > > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4. > > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8. > > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out. > > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house. > > > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ? > > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ? > > > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th > > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr. > > > > if any feedback on that particular time? > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Tammy Wood > > > > <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation. > > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking > > > > about divorce > > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to > > > > misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help > > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here. > > > > > Taking Libra lagna.... > > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will > > > > break up. > > > > > there is Jup delay. > > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon. > > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus, > > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts. > > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and > > > > Moon shows > > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social > > life. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members, > > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning > > > > this sysytem. > > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5 > > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra > > > > Lagna. > > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons. > > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB > > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars > > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house > > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha > > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha > > > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS. > > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay > > > > the marriage that much ? > > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to > > > > Nov 2009. > > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it > > > > can give marriage. > > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector > > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007 > > > > to Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in > > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ? > > > > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra > > > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there > > > > are no zeros there. > > > > > > > > > > Pls suggest. > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > Hello Gurujis, > > > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below > > > > person get married. > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M > > > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India > > > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights > > > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot of > remedies. > > > > Will she get a good life partner. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear All, Thanks for the analysis again. Here are some more datas as your requested. 1) engament cancelled one day before the day of Juipter Transit. I think it is on the first half of August 2004. 2) Her father is sick due to her. and she has good relation with father. 3) Age of the boy ( broken ) is 1 year less than her.Thats is broken. That is it is a love .But to due her parents ( they did not like that family) they stopped the enegement. Let me know if you need more datas. Thanks Venkat Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear Venkat, Thanks for this data. Also can u confirm the source of birth time? How much difference do u think is possible? Was this data recorded meticulously? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Tammy Wood Wednesday September 26, 2007 10:24 PM RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear All, Thanks for the analysis again. Here are some more datas as your requested. 1) engament cancelled one day before the day of Juipter Transit. I think it is on the first half of August 2004. 2) Her father is sick due to her. and she has good relation with father. 3) Age of the boy ( broken ) is 1 year less than her.Thats is broken. That is it is a love .But to due her parents ( they did not like that family) they stopped the enegement. Let me know if you need more datas. Thanks Venkat Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Click here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear all, Thanks. She born in a village where there is no bus service also. So the birth time is recorded based on village people . when i asked her mother about the birth time she says she born early monirng aroung 5 .So there is a chance that the birth time may be + or - 10 to 20 minues. VenkatAsh <kas wrote: Dear Venkat, Thanks for this data. Also can u confirm the source of birth time? How much difference do u think is possible? Was this data recorded meticulously? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Tammy WoodWednesday September 26, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear All, Thanks for the analysis again. Here are some more datas as your requested. 1) engament cancelled one day before the day of Juipter Transit. I think it is on the first half of August 2004. 2) Her father is sick due to her. and she has good relation with father. 3) Age of the boy ( broken ) is 1 year less than her.Thats is broken. That is it is a love .But to due her parents ( they did not like that family) they stopped the enegement. Let me know if you need more datas. Thanks Venkat Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Anup, You are correct in what you have stated. Just to answer your query regarding how can a person be relieved if his engagement breaks, I would assume all should be relieved since they have been saved from getting caught in marriage. On a serious note, there can be many reasons. How can we be sure that engagement will bring only joy? What if the person really did not want to get married and was forced to do so. There could be so many scenarios. Hope this helps. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. M Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:46 AM To: RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Manu, Nice to have a mail from you in this forum after a long time. Well, you are right that daily points do not effect the event. But this reflects state of mind of the native, support from all planets including Sat and Jup,in transit. Now if , say, the low points show that a person may be busy when Sat and Jup are supporting and give sufficient 8 points in aggregate(more of equal 4+4we say, better) Somewhere in archives this is written by Guruji that 20% effect of transit is liable giving event. As in prior query about engagement, where Mars transit over zero point zone of Moon and such event happened. More than 196 may reflect a person is enjoying with frds, good day,feeling relieved of stress and worries etc as we all know. If we say taking this event, like engagement ,it is memorable and joyful day for a male/female in most parts of the world,no matter,its first, second or third times,like in euprope. But if this engagement is broken,how a native can feel relieved from this joy? The person may not be in a mood to celebrate this, i think !! So i think less than 196 points sld be there in daily points as such. Rather,it cld be a sad day for him/her, as on days, state of mind sld reflect this too in transit, mostly by moon.I may be wrong but only for death event we take such rule as native is relieved from this material world and free from tension and worries after abononing physical body . This death like event happened once in a total life. But if we take engagement, this can be at a person's will or consent to make or break up this event unlike death where a person never wants to die ever on his will or as destined. I shall be awaiting your point of view including all members on this topic of daily points. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu > wrote: Dear Anup, Can you please elaborate further on your line of thought since I have a slightly different viewpoint. As per my viewpoint, daily points do not effect events. For example, low points may make the native quite busy with work. Breaking of engagement may have relieved the native from the tensions and that could also very well match with daily points being high. The effect of sa + ju is again considered not from event perspective but more from that state of mind through which a native has to go through. Unless we know the real reasons of break in engagement and it’s effect on the native (good or bad), the daily points and sa+ju points may mislead. To check the event WS would be deciding factor. Daily points and sa+ju will help us understand the environment in which the event took place and it’s effect on the native. Ofcourse I may be wrong in my understanding. I still need to look at the chart in detail. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. M Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:26 AM Re: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Group, As written by Venkat,engagement broken in august month2004.Sun was transiting cancer sign, which has zero point in 1st house,and 6,8,8,11 points respectively in 3rd,4th,5th,6th houses. Also 6,3,9 points in 8th,9th,12th houses. So this cld be 1st august -16th august2004. Transit contradicts this as daily points are too good and trasits points are 8 in aggregate by Sat and Jup. Regards Anup Tammy Wood <tamtamger (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the analysis, The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help us to know. Thanks Venkat harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: Dear Rajesh, date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to study to.. anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of virgo asc. thanks/regards harjeet , Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9 wrote: > > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members, > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate that. > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist should write month too with years, when giving passed events). > First I will take VIRGO Lagna > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th. > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat , even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also cannot be SD to Ven. > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation. > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because its imp for us. > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and Ra is SD Moon(LOE) > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to give marriage , why it broke ? > Ash we need your help here ? > > If I take Libra Lagna, > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D with 6 points( Match 100 %) > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%) > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a problem, All planets for 6th are high. > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less comparativily. > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage. > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP. > > Best Regards, > Rajesh > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Group, > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna. > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail. > > Regards > Anup > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Group, > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these which goes > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered. > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be taken as temporary basis, > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B. > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars and with 30 pts. > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house. > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th hosue. > > So now with which lagna to go with? > Libra or Virgo? > > So more and more events are required with dates for further validating lagna. > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with fewer events. > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here. > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am still awake all nite long > for some reasons. > > > Regards > Anup > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote: > Hello All, > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things. > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first) > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is facing lot of problems at work place . > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In general she ls ordinary person. > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you. > > Thanks > Venkat > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji, > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening > antra for the native. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the > > native might be in high post. > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial. > > Ashji can guide on this. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , Raj Rajesh > > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash, > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others. > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance / > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive , > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > Is native look younger than her age etc > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/ > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009. > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and > > suddenly stopped spending money too much. > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more > > expense. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards, > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat, > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate. > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay period > > > is over. > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no > > > blessings from father or guru. > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house. > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords. > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn. > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12. > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4. > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8. > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out. > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house. > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ? > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ? > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr. > > > if any feedback on that particular time? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , Tammy Wood > > > <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation. > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking > > > about divorce > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to > > > misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here. > > > > Taking Libra lagna.... > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will > > > break up. > > > > there is Jup delay. > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon. > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus, > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts. > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and > > > Moon shows > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social > life. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members, > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning > > > this sysytem. > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5 > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra > > > Lagna. > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons. > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS. > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay > > > the marriage that much ? > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to > > > Nov 2009. > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it > > > can give marriage. > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007 > > > to Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ? > > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra > > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there > > > are no zeros there. > > > > > > > > Pls suggest. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > Hello Gurujis, > > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below > > > person get married. > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M > > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India > > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights > > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot of remedies. > > > Will she get a good life partner. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from > > > someone who knows. > > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > > > > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Travelling to a new city? Search for ATMs in that city. Click here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's > > user panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Autos. > > > > > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search. > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Building a website is a piece of cake. 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Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Manu, Good..atleast we can laugh at this too:) But i am still eager to know why daily points rises to alarming heights(i will use this word) when a person's heart is broken.I have observed in few charts. 1] My friend didnt get the due promotion though he was deserving,intelligent and was very much sure about getting thru the exams.He needed only 3 extra marks to for this to qualify.His daily points were variable from 215-235 during this month.Even this is showing till Nov2007.This was his third attempt since last 3 years. He himself said after this failure that he is relieved now and do not feel anything bad about this now unlike past two attempts.Now is always remain cheerful in office. 2] In one of the chart, engagement was broken but the daily points were showing 217-225 Yes, i do agree that this engagement may be against wishes sometime and a person may not be happy getting married and so on.Many aspects sld be considered for this also. But we have to learn more yet:) Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Anup, You are correct in what you have stated. Just to answer your query regarding how can a person be relieved if his engagement breaks, I would assume all should be relieved since they have been saved from getting caught in marriage. On a serious note, there can be many reasons. How can we be sure that engagement will bring only joy? What if the person really did not want to get married and was forced to do so. There could be so many scenarios. Hope this helps. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. MWednesday, September 26, 2007 5:46 AM Subject: RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Manu, Nice to have a mail from you in this forum after a long time. Well, you are right that daily points do not effect the event. But this reflects state of mind of the native, support from all planets including Sat and Jup,in transit. Now if , say, the low points show that a person may be busy when Sat and Jup are supporting and give sufficient 8 points in aggregate(more of equal 4+4we say, better) Somewhere in archives this is written by Guruji that 20% effect of transit is liable giving event. As in prior query about engagement, where Mars transit over zero point zone of Moon and such event happened. More than 196 may reflect a person is enjoying with frds, good day,feeling relieved of stress and worries etc as we all know. If we say taking this event, like engagement ,it is memorable and joyful day for a male/female in most parts of the world,no matter,its first, second or third times,like in euprope. But if this engagement is broken,how a native can feel relieved from this joy? The person may not be in a mood to celebrate this, i think !! So i think less than 196 points sld be there in daily points as such. Rather,it cld be a sad day for him/her, as on days, state of mind sld reflect this too in transit, mostly by moon.I may be wrong but only for death event we take such rule as native is relieved from this material world and free from tension and worries after abononing physical body . This death like event happened once in a total life. But if we take engagement, this can be at a person's will or consent to make or break up this event unlike death where a person never wants to die ever on his will or as destined. I shall be awaiting your point of view including all members on this topic of daily points. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu > wrote: Dear Anup, Can you please elaborate further on your line of thought since I have a slightly different viewpoint. As per my viewpoint, daily points do not effect events. For example, low points may make the native quite busy with work. Breaking of engagement may have relieved the native from the tensions and that could also very well match with daily points being high. The effect of sa + ju is again considered not from event perspective but more from that state of mind through which a native has to go through. Unless we know the real reasons of break in engagement and it’s effect on the native (good or bad), the daily points and sa+ju points may mislead. To check the event WS would be deciding factor. Daily points and sa+ju will help us understand the environment in which the event took place and it’s effect on the native. Ofcourse I may be wrong in my understanding. I still need to look at the chart in detail. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. MWednesday, September 26, 2007 2:26 AM Subject: Re: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Group, As written by Venkat,engagement broken in august month2004.Sun was transiting cancer sign, which has zero point in 1st house,and 6,8,8,11 points respectively in 3rd,4th,5th,6th houses. Also 6,3,9 points in 8th,9th,12th houses. So this cld be 1st august -16th august2004. Transit contradicts this as daily points are too good and trasits points are 8 in aggregate by Sat and Jup. Regards Anup Tammy Wood <tamtamger (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the analysis, The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help us to know. Thanks Venkatharjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: Dear Rajesh,date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important tostudy to..anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precidesjupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case ofvirgo asc.thanks/regardsharjeet , Raj Rajesh<astro_raj9 wrote:>> Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members,> Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciatethat.> > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the queristshould write month too with years, when giving passed events).> First I will take VIRGO Lagna> 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jupcan not give result here because it has low points here for 5th.> If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat ,even then Sat can not give result because of low points and alsocannot be SD to Ven.> Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation.> Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, becauseits imp for us.> > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this isexactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points andRa is SD Moon(LOE)> > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat> 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate togive marriage , why it broke ?> Ash we need your help here ?> > If I take Libra Lagna,> 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house Dwith 6 points( Match 100 %)> 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%)> Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not aproblem, All planets for 6th are high.> 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th alsothe FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are lesscomparativily.> 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sensewith Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But Iam not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage.> > Ash and other member , PLS HELP.> > Best Regards,> Rajesh> > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna.> Sorry i didnt mention in my mail.> > Regards> Anup> > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of thesewhich goes > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,brokenengagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5thhouses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered.> As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can betaken as temporary basis,> and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B.> 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Marsand with 30 pts.> So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house.> But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5thhosue.> > So now with which lagna to go with?> Libra or Virgo?> > So more and more events are required with dates for furthervalidating lagna.> Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel withfewer events. > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here.> Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i amstill awake all nite long> for some reasons.> > > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote:> Hello All,> Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs tovirgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things.> > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first)> 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life> 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job> 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she isfacing lot of problems at work place .> 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher> 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.Ingeneral she ls ordinary person.> > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you.> > Thanks> Venkat> harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji,> also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house> ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening> antra for the native.> thanks/regards> harjeet> > , "harjeet bakshi"> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Rajesh,> > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the> > native might be in high post.> > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in> > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial.> > Ashji can guide on this.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > , Raj Rajesh> > <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash,> > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is> > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the> > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly> > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others.> > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like> > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance /> > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any> > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive ,> > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > Is native look younger than her age etc> > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/> > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009.> > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare> > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and> > suddenly stopped spending money too much.> > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna> > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase> > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making> > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more> > expense. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards,> > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat,> > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate.> > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delayperiod> > > is over.> > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no> > > blessings from father or guru.> > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house.> > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords.> > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn.> > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12.> > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4.> > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8.> > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out.> > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house.> > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ?> > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ?> > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th> > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr.> > > if any feedback on that particular time?> > > > > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > , Tammy Wood> > > <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello All,> > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation.> > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking> > > about divorce > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to> > > misunderstanding.> > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help> > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here.> > > > Taking Libra lagna....> > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will> > > break up.> > > > there is Jup delay.> > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon.> > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus,> > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts.> > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and> > > Moon shows> > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social> life.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members,> > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning> > > this sysytem.> > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5> > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra> > > Lagna.> > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons.> > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB> > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars> > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house> > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha> > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha> > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS.> > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay> > > the marriage that much ?> > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to> > > Nov 2009.> > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it> > > can give marriage.> > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector> > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007> > > to Nov 2008.> > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in> > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ?> > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra> > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there> > > are no zeros there.> > > > > > > > Pls suggest.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > > Hello Gurujis,> > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below> > > person get married. > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M> > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India> > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights> > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot ofremedies.> > > Will she get a good life partner.> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have> > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from> > > someone who knows.> > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > > > > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Travelling to a new city? Search for ATMs in that city. Clickhere.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's> > user panel and lay it on us.> > >> >> > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. > > > > > > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > > > > > > > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Autos. > > > > > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search.> Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Building a website is a piece of cake. 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Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Anup, My comments are inline. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. M Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:45 PM To: RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Manu, Good..atleast we can laugh at this too:) But i am still eager to know why daily points rises to alarming heights(i will use this word) when a person's heart is broken.I have observed in few charts. Manu: This is interesting observation. I have not yet observed so keenly, however, the way I would reason is to consider what happens during death. When a person dies, he is free from life and it’s associated sufferings. He is free from all bonds and ties. Now, if you ask a living person whether he wants to die, in most cases the answer will be ‘no’. Life although with sufferings is still something that the person wants. Here too when a person heart is broken, he may be in an accepting state, in a way he is free from the bonds that would have resulted were it the case that the event was the other way round. 1] My friend didnt get the due promotion though he was deserving,intelligent and was very much sure about getting thru the exams.He needed only 3 extra marks to for this to qualify.His daily points were variable from 215-235 during this month.Even this is showing till Nov2007.This was his third attempt since last 3 years. He himself said after this failure that he is relieved now and do not feel anything bad about this now unlike past two attempts.Now is always remain cheerful in office. Manu: How a person feels is totally based on his personality. Someone may get all tensed up upon knowing about his failure or can accept it like your friend did (albeit with a pinch of salt). I guess you will see a difference in daily points between first case and second case although the event would be the same. 2] In one of the chart, engagement was broken but the daily points were showing 217-225 Yes, i do agree that this engagement may be against wishes sometime and a person may not be happy getting married and so on.Many aspects sld be considered for this also. But we have to learn more yet:) Manu: Absolutely. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu > wrote: Dear Anup, You are correct in what you have stated. Just to answer your query regarding how can a person be relieved if his engagement breaks, I would assume all should be relieved since they have been saved from getting caught in marriage. On a serious note, there can be many reasons. How can we be sure that engagement will bring only joy? What if the person really did not want to get married and was forced to do so. There could be so many scenarios. Hope this helps. Thanks & Regards, Manu size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1> On Behalf Of Anup. M Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:46 AM RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Manu, Nice to have a mail from you in this forum after a long time. Well, you are right that daily points do not effect the event. But this reflects state of mind of the native, support from all planets including Sat and Jup,in transit. Now if , say, the low points show that a person may be busy when Sat and Jup are supporting and give sufficient 8 points in aggregate(more of equal 4+4we say, better) Somewhere in archives this is written by Guruji that 20% effect of transit is liable giving event. As in prior query about engagement, where Mars transit over zero point zone of Moon and such event happened. More than 196 may reflect a person is enjoying with frds, good day,feeling relieved of stress and worries etc as we all know. If we say taking this event, like engagement ,it is memorable and joyful day for a male/female in most parts of the world,no matter,its first, second or third times,like in euprope. But if this engagement is broken,how a native can feel relieved from this joy? The person may not be in a mood to celebrate this, i think !! So i think less than 196 points sld be there in daily points as such. Rather,it cld be a sad day for him/her, as on days, state of mind sld reflect this too in transit, mostly by moon.I may be wrong but only for death event we take such rule as native is relieved from this material world and free from tension and worries after abononing physical body . This death like event happened once in a total life. But if we take engagement, this can be at a person's will or consent to make or break up this event unlike death where a person never wants to die ever on his will or as destined. I shall be awaiting your point of view including all members on this topic of daily points. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu > wrote: Dear Anup, Can you please elaborate further on your line of thought since I have a slightly different viewpoint. As per my viewpoint, daily points do not effect events. For example, low points may make the native quite busy with work. Breaking of engagement may have relieved the native from the tensions and that could also very well match with daily points being high. The effect of sa + ju is again considered not from event perspective but more from that state of mind through which a native has to go through. Unless we know the real reasons of break in engagement and it’s effect on the native (good or bad), the daily points and sa+ju points may mislead. To check the event WS would be deciding factor. Daily points and sa+ju will help us understand the environment in which the event took place and it’s effect on the native. Ofcourse I may be wrong in my understanding. I still need to look at the chart in detail. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. M Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:26 AM Re: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Group, As written by Venkat,engagement broken in august month2004.Sun was transiting cancer sign, which has zero point in 1st house,and 6,8,8,11 points respectively in 3rd,4th,5th,6th houses. Also 6,3,9 points in 8th,9th,12th houses. So this cld be 1st august -16th august2004. Transit contradicts this as daily points are too good and trasits points are 8 in aggregate by Sat and Jup. Regards Anup Tammy Wood <tamtamger (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the analysis, The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help us to know. Thanks Venkat harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: Dear Rajesh, date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to study to.. anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of virgo asc. thanks/regards harjeet , Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9 wrote: > > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members, > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate that. > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist should write month too with years, when giving passed events). > First I will take VIRGO Lagna > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th. > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat , even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also cannot be SD to Ven. > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation. > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because its imp for us. > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and Ra is SD Moon(LOE) > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to give marriage , why it broke ? > Ash we need your help here ? > > If I take Libra Lagna, > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D with 6 points( Match 100 %) > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%) > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a problem, All planets for 6th are high. > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less comparativily. > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage. > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP. > > Best Regards, > Rajesh > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Group, > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna. > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail. > > Regards > Anup > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Group, > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these which goes > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered. > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be taken as temporary basis, > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B. > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars and with 30 pts. > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house. > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th hosue. > > So now with which lagna to go with? > Libra or Virgo? > > So more and more events are required with dates for further validating lagna. > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with fewer events. > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here. > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am still awake all nite long > for some reasons. > > > Regards > Anup > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote: > Hello All, > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things. > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first) > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is facing lot of problems at work place . > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In general she ls ordinary person. > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you. > > Thanks > Venkat > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji, > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening > antra for the native. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the > > native might be in high post. > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial. > > Ashji can guide on this. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , Raj Rajesh > > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash, > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others. > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance / > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive , > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > Is native look younger than her age etc > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/ > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009. > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and > > suddenly stopped spending money too much. > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more > > expense. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards, > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat, > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate. > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay period > > > is over. > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no > > > blessings from father or guru. > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house. > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords. > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn. > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12. > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4. > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8. > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out. > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house. > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ? > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ? > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr. > > > if any feedback on that particular time? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , Tammy Wood > > > <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation. > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking > > > about divorce > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to > > > misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here. > > > > Taking Libra lagna.... > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will > > > break up. > > > > there is Jup delay. > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon. > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus, > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts. > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and > > > Moon shows > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social > life. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members, > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning > > > this sysytem. > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5 > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra > > > Lagna. > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons. > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS. > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay > > > the marriage that much ? > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to > > > Nov 2009. > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it > > > can give marriage. > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007 > > > to Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dear Manu, Thankyou for your views/comments here. I hope you will be regularly help us to learn more with your experience. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Anup, My comments are inline. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. MThursday, September 27, 2007 8:45 PMTo: Subject: RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Manu, Good..atleast we can laugh at this too:) But i am still eager to know why daily points rises to alarming heights(i will use this word) when a person's heart is broken.I have observed in few charts. Manu: This is interesting observation. I have not yet observed so keenly, however, the way I would reason is to consider what happens during death. When a person dies, he is free from life and it’s associated sufferings. He is free from all bonds and ties. Now, if you ask a living person whether he wants to die, in most cases the answer will be ‘no’. Life although with sufferings is still something that the person wants. Here too when a person heart is broken, he may be in an accepting state, in a way he is free from the bonds that would have resulted were it the case that the event was the other way round. 1] My friend didnt get the due promotion though he was deserving,intelligent and was very much sure about getting thru the exams.He needed only 3 extra marks to for this to qualify.His daily points were variable from 215-235 during this month.Even this is showing till Nov2007.This was his third attempt since last 3 years. He himself said after this failure that he is relieved now and do not feel anything bad about this now unlike past two attempts.Now is always remain cheerful in office. Manu: How a person feels is totally based on his personality. Someone may get all tensed up upon knowing about his failure or can accept it like your friend did (albeit with a pinch of salt). I guess you will see a difference in daily points between first case and second case although the event would be the same. 2] In one of the chart, engagement was broken but the daily points were showing 217-225 Yes, i do agree that this engagement may be against wishes sometime and a person may not be happy getting married and so on.Many aspects sld be considered for this also. But we have to learn more yet:) Manu: Absolutely. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu > wrote: Dear Anup, You are correct in what you have stated. Just to answer your query regarding how can a person be relieved if his engagement breaks, I would assume all should be relieved since they have been saved from getting caught in marriage. On a serious note, there can be many reasons. How can we be sure that engagement will bring only joy? What if the person really did not want to get married and was forced to do so. There could be so many scenarios. Hope this helps. Thanks & Regards, Manu size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1> On Behalf Of Anup. MWednesday, September 26, 2007 5:46 AM Subject: RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Manu, Nice to have a mail from you in this forum after a long time. Well, you are right that daily points do not effect the event. But this reflects state of mind of the native, support from all planets including Sat and Jup,in transit. Now if , say, the low points show that a person may be busy when Sat and Jup are supporting and give sufficient 8 points in aggregate(more of equal 4+4we say, better) Somewhere in archives this is written by Guruji that 20% effect of transit is liable giving event. As in prior query about engagement, where Mars transit over zero point zone of Moon and such event happened. More than 196 may reflect a person is enjoying with frds, good day,feeling relieved of stress and worries etc as we all know. If we say taking this event, like engagement ,it is memorable and joyful day for a male/female in most parts of the world,no matter,its first, second or third times,like in euprope. But if this engagement is broken,how a native can feel relieved from this joy? The person may not be in a mood to celebrate this, i think !! So i think less than 196 points sld be there in daily points as such. Rather,it cld be a sad day for him/her, as on days, state of mind sld reflect this too in transit, mostly by moon.I may be wrong but only for death event we take such rule as native is relieved from this material world and free from tension and worries after abononing physical body . This death like event happened once in a total life. But if we take engagement, this can be at a person's will or consent to make or break up this event unlike death where a person never wants to die ever on his will or as destined. I shall be awaiting your point of view including all members on this topic of daily points. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu > wrote: Dear Anup, Can you please elaborate further on your line of thought since I have a slightly different viewpoint. As per my viewpoint, daily points do not effect events. For example, low points may make the native quite busy with work. Breaking of engagement may have relieved the native from the tensions and that could also very well match with daily points being high. The effect of sa + ju is again considered not from event perspective but more from that state of mind through which a native has to go through. Unless we know the real reasons of break in engagement and it’s effect on the native (good or bad), the daily points and sa+ju points may mislead. To check the event WS would be deciding factor. Daily points and sa+ju will help us understand the environment in which the event took place and it’s effect on the native. Ofcourse I may be wrong in my understanding. I still need to look at the chart in detail. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. MWednesday, September 26, 2007 2:26 AM Subject: Re: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Group, As written by Venkat,engagement broken in august month2004.Sun was transiting cancer sign, which has zero point in 1st house,and 6,8,8,11 points respectively in 3rd,4th,5th,6th houses. Also 6,3,9 points in 8th,9th,12th houses. So this cld be 1st august -16th august2004. Transit contradicts this as daily points are too good and trasits points are 8 in aggregate by Sat and Jup. Regards Anup Tammy Wood <tamtamger (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the analysis, The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help us to know. Thanks Venkatharjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: Dear Rajesh,date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important tostudy to..anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precidesjupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case ofvirgo asc.thanks/regardsharjeet , Raj Rajesh<astro_raj9 wrote:>> Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members,> Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciatethat.> > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the queristshould write month too with years, when giving passed events).> First I will take VIRGO Lagna> 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jupcan not give result here because it has low points here for 5th.> If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat ,even then Sat can not give result because of low points and alsocannot be SD to Ven.> Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation.> Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, becauseits imp for us.> > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this isexactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points andRa is SD Moon(LOE)> > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat> 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate togive marriage , why it broke ?> Ash we need your help here ?> > If I take Libra Lagna,> 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house Dwith 6 points( Match 100 %)> 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%)> Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not aproblem, All planets for 6th are high.> 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th alsothe FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are lesscomparativily.> 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sensewith Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But Iam not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage.> > Ash and other member , PLS HELP.> > Best Regards,> Rajesh> > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna.> Sorry i didnt mention in my mail.> > Regards> Anup> > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of thesewhich goes > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,brokenengagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5thhouses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered.> As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can betaken as temporary basis,> and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B.> 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Marsand with 30 pts.> So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house.> But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5thhosue.> > So now with which lagna to go with?> Libra or Virgo?> > So more and more events are required with dates for furthervalidating lagna.> Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel withfewer events. > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here.> Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i amstill awake all nite long> for some reasons.> > > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote:> Hello All,> Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs tovirgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things.> > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first)> 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life> 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job> 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she isfacing lot of problems at work place .> 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher> 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.Ingeneral she ls ordinary person.> > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you.> > Thanks> Venkat> harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji,> also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house> ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening> antra for the native.> thanks/regards> harjeet> > , "harjeet bakshi"> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Rajesh,> > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the> > native might be in high post.> > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in> > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial.> > Ashji can guide on this.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > , Raj Rajesh> > <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash,> > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is> > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the> > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly> > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others.> > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like> > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance /> > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any> > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive ,> > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > Is native look younger than her age etc> > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/> > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009.> > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare> > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and> > suddenly stopped spending money too much.> > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna> > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase> > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making> > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more> > expense. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards,> > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat,> > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate.> > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delayperiod> > > is over.> > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no> > > blessings from father or guru.> > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house.> > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords.> > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn.> > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12.> > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4.> > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8.> > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out.> > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house.> > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ?> > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ?> > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th> > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr.> > > if any feedback on that particular time?> > > > > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > , Tammy Wood> > > <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello All,> > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation.> > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking> > > about divorce > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to> > > misunderstanding.> > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help> > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here.> > > > Taking Libra lagna....> > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will> > > break up.> > > > there is Jup delay.> > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon.> > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus,> > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts.> > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and> > > Moon shows> > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social> life.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members,> > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning> > > this sysytem.> > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5> > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra> > > Lagna.> > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons.> > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB> > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars> > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house> > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha> > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha> > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS.> > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay> > > the marriage that much ?> > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to> > > Nov 2009.> > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it> > > can give marriage.> > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector> > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007> > > to Nov 2008.> > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in> > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Hello Boys, Take another example. A person loosing job that he or she held for long time in LoD or LoE antra. That time one feels very bad when the event happens, then after some time the person gets a better job with more authority and $ and that time, that same event that he or she thought was bad turns out a blessing in disguise. Manu is right about death. It happens in highest points. Now these points are points and its doing its job. How “We Feel” about the event and how we classify the event that is different. As per KAS and if u would have noticed in so many charts that death happens in highest points. Now if it’s a close person to us or a family member, then we will ofcourse feel very sad but that is “how we feel towards the event”. As far as KAS goes, and for timing of event, it happened in the highest power planet. We define an event happening in highest power as Good. Similarly, marriage, if it happens in lowest points then “we feel that the event is good” and then when high power planet comes then it will break the marriage and “we feel that this event is bad” as it might be causing a lot of grief to all parties and families concerned, but then the points are high or its LoD or LoE antra then ? Now, when such a thing is happening and if strong pdf is running for 7th and at the same time the points are going higher and higher say up and more than 230 then, the force will be more, but then in our minds if we have classified it “bad event” then one will even feel more depressed when such things happen as the power of daily points is more so its force is more and its going against what the person wants i.e. to save the marriage, so here, one is trying to swim against the tide and the tide is getting stronger and stronger (daily points). Now at that point in time, if u ask such a person or if some a person see the daily points, he might be puzzled as to why is he or she feeling so depressed or sad and more so if the points are going higher and higher. So as far as KAS is concerned and the points, then it means that the marriage happened in lowest power planet means its not good so when LoD or LoE come or high power planet then it will try to do “Good” by flushing out the bad and that is w.r.t points AND NOT HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT. Just see Sandy’s chart that Donna wrote about, the daily points were in rising order, so it was good, and that made Sandy take the right decisions. So if the points are in rising trend then the person might take proper decision and in Sandy case it saved her husbands life. So u have to try to read these points w.r.t KAS and keep personal feeling separate. For people who have lost job in LoD or LoE or high points and particularly when the points go very high then it means that the job they were currently in or lets say one of the things it COULD MEAN is that that job was sort of a dead end job and the promise of a high pay and authority and stability could not be achieve as per the promise of the chart so the person looses the job. Now if the person has been in that job for long time and if he is called and told that his services are no longer required, and if he is a dedicated worker then ofcourse he or she will feel bad and that is based on the natural nature of a person, but then he will find another job which will have much better scope of progress and maybe higher pay and authority (depending on the WS and status etc), and then in retro after years if he or she looks back then they will view that event in a different light. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. M Friday September 28, 2007 9:00 AM RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Manu, Thankyou for your views/comments here. I hope you will be regularly help us to learn more with your experience. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Anup, My comments are inline. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. M Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:45 PM RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Manu, Good..atleast we can laugh at this too:) But i am still eager to know why daily points rises to alarming heights(i will use this word) when a person's heart is broken.I have observed in few charts. Manu: This is interesting observation. I have not yet observed so keenly, however, the way I would reason is to consider what happens during death. When a person dies, he is free from life and it’s associated sufferings. He is free from all bonds and ties. Now, if you ask a living person whether he wants to die, in most cases the answer will be ‘no’. Life although with sufferings is still something that the person wants. Here too when a person heart is broken, he may be in an accepting state, in a way he is free from the bonds that would have resulted were it the case that the event was the other way round. 1] My friend didnt get the due promotion though he was deserving,intelligent and was very much sure about getting thru the exams.He needed only 3 extra marks to for this to qualify.His daily points were variable from 215-235 during this month.Even this is showing till Nov2007.This was his third attempt since last 3 years. He himself said after this failure that he is relieved now and do not feel anything bad about this now unlike past two attempts.Now is always remain cheerful in office. Manu: How a person feels is totally based on his personality. Someone may get all tensed up upon knowing about his failure or can accept it like your friend did (albeit with a pinch of salt). I guess you will see a difference in daily points between first case and second case although the event would be the same. 2] In one of the chart, engagement was broken but the daily points were showing 217-225 Yes, i do agree that this engagement may be against wishes sometime and a person may not be happy getting married and so on.Many aspects sld be considered for this also. But we have to learn more yet:) Manu: Absolutely. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Anup, You are correct in what you have stated. Just to answer your query regarding how can a person be relieved if his engagement breaks, I would assume all should be relieved since they have been saved from getting caught in marriage. On a serious note, there can be many reasons. How can we be sure that engagement will bring only joy? What if the person really did not want to get married and was forced to do so. There could be so many scenarios. Hope this helps. Thanks & Regards, Manu size=2 width= " 100% " align=center tabIndex=-1> On Behalf Of Anup. M Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:46 AM RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Manu, Nice to have a mail from you in this forum after a long time. Well, you are right that daily points do not effect the event. But this reflects state of mind of the native, support from all planets including Sat and Jup,in transit. Now if , say, the low points show that a person may be busy when Sat and Jup are supporting and give sufficient 8 points in aggregate(more of equal 4+4we say, better) Somewhere in archives this is written by Guruji that 20% effect of transit is liable giving event. As in prior query about engagement, where Mars transit over zero point zone of Moon and such event happened. More than 196 may reflect a person is enjoying with frds, good day,feeling relieved of stress and worries etc as we all know. If we say taking this event, like engagement ,it is memorable and joyful day for a male/female in most parts of the world,no matter,its first, second or third times,like in euprope. But if this engagement is broken,how a native can feel relieved from this joy? The person may not be in a mood to celebrate this, i think !! So i think less than 196 points sld be there in daily points as such. Rather,it cld be a sad day for him/her, as on days, state of mind sld reflect this too in transit, mostly by moon.I may be wrong but only for death event we take such rule as native is relieved from this material world and free from tension and worries after abononing physical body . This death like event happened once in a total life. But if we take engagement, this can be at a person's will or consent to make or break up this event unlike death where a person never wants to die ever on his will or as destined. I shall be awaiting your point of view including all members on this topic of daily points. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Anup, Can you please elaborate further on your line of thought since I have a slightly different viewpoint. As per my viewpoint, daily points do not effect events. For example, low points may make the native quite busy with work. Breaking of engagement may have relieved the native from the tensions and that could also very well match with daily points being high. The effect of sa + ju is again considered not from event perspective but more from that state of mind through which a native has to go through. Unless we know the real reasons of break in engagement and it’s effect on the native (good or bad), the daily points and sa+ju points may mislead. To check the event WS would be deciding factor. Daily points and sa+ju will help us understand the environment in which the event took place and it’s effect on the native. Ofcourse I may be wrong in my understanding. I still need to look at the chart in detail. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. M Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:26 AM Re: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Group, As written by Venkat,engagement broken in august month2004.Sun was transiting cancer sign, which has zero point in 1st house,and 6,8,8,11 points respectively in 3rd,4th,5th,6th houses. Also 6,3,9 points in 8th,9th,12th houses. So this cld be 1st august -16th august2004. Transit contradicts this as daily points are too good and trasits points are 8 in aggregate by Sat and Jup. Regards Anup Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the analysis, The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help us to know. Thanks Venkat harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: Dear Rajesh, date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to study to.. anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of virgo asc. thanks/regards harjeet , Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9 wrote: > > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members, > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate that. > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist should write month too with years, when giving passed events). > First I will take VIRGO Lagna > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th. > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat , even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also cannot be SD to Ven. > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation. > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because its imp for us. > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and Ra is SD Moon(LOE) > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to give marriage , why it broke ? > Ash we need your help here ? > > If I take Libra Lagna, > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D with 6 points( Match 100 %) > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%) > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a problem, All planets for 6th are high. > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less comparativily. > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage. > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP. > > Best Regards, > Rajesh > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Group, > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna. > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail. > > Regards > Anup > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Group, > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these which goes > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered. > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be taken as temporary basis, > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B. > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars and with 30 pts. > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house. > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th hosue. > > So now with which lagna to go with? > Libra or Virgo? > > So more and more events are required with dates for further validating lagna. > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with fewer events. > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here. > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am still awake all nite long > for some reasons. > > > Regards > Anup > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote: > Hello All, > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things. > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first) > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is facing lot of problems at work place . > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In general she ls ordinary person. > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you. > > Thanks > Venkat > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji, > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening > antra for the native. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the > > native might be in high post. > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial. > > Ashji can guide on this. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , Raj Rajesh > > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash, > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others. > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance / > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive , > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > Is native look younger than her age etc > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/ > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009. > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and > > suddenly stopped spending money too much. > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more > > expense. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards, > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat, > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate. > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay period > > > is over. > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no > > > blessings from father or guru. > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house. > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords. > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn. > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12. > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4. > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8. > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out. > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house. > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ? > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ? > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr. > > > if any feedback on that particular time? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , Tammy Wood > > > <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation. > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking > > > about divorce > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to > > > misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here. > > > > Taking Libra lagna.... > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will > > > break up. > > > > there is Jup delay. > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon. > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus, > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts. > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and > > > Moon shows > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social > life. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members, > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning > > > this sysytem. > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5 > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra > > > Lagna. > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons. > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS. > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay > > > the marriage that much ? > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to > > > Nov 2009. > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it > > > can give marriage. > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007 > > > to Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dear Ashji, you have already stated that if antra of lord of 12th from B is going on and its having high points for B then event would occur but would be problematic.. if event occurs in the antra of D or E... but is having less points in worksheet for house B. how would the result be ? i guess it would be not a happy event/result too... please give your expertise. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Hello Boys, > > Take another example. A person loosing job that he or she held for long > time in LoD or LoE antra. That time one feels very bad when the event > happens, then after some time the person gets a better job with more > authority and $ and that time, that same event that he or she thought was > bad turns out a blessing in disguise. > > > > Manu is right about death. It happens in highest points. Now these points > are points and its doing its job. How " We Feel " about the event and how we > classify the event that is different. > > > > As per KAS and if u would have noticed in so many charts that death happens > in highest points. Now if it's a close person to us or a family member, > then we will ofcourse feel very sad but that is " how we feel towards the > event " . As far as KAS goes, and for timing of event, it happened in the > highest power planet. We define an event happening in highest power as > Good. > > > > Similarly, marriage, if it happens in lowest points then " we feel that the > event is good " and then when high power planet comes then it will break the > marriage and " we feel that this event is bad " as it might be causing a lot > of grief to all parties and families concerned, but then the points are high > or its LoD or LoE antra then ? > > > > Now, when such a thing is happening and if strong pdf is running for 7th and > at the same time the points are going higher and higher say up and more than > 230 then, the force will be more, but then in our minds if we have > classified it " bad event " then one will even feel more depressed when such > things happen as the power of daily points is more so its force is more and > its going against what the person wants i.e. to save the marriage, so here, > one is trying to swim against the tide and the tide is getting stronger and > stronger (daily points). > > > > Now at that point in time, if u ask such a person or if some a person see > the daily points, he might be puzzled as to why is he or she feeling so > depressed or sad and more so if the points are going higher and higher. > > > > So as far as KAS is concerned and the points, then it means that the > marriage happened in lowest power planet means its not good so when LoD or > LoE come or high power planet then it will try to do " Good " by flushing out > the bad and that is w.r.t points AND NOT HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT. > > > > Just see Sandy's chart that Donna wrote about, the daily points were in > rising order, so it was good, and that made Sandy take the right decisions. > So if the points are in rising trend then the person might take proper > decision and in Sandy case it saved her husbands life. > > > > So u have to try to read these points w.r.t KAS and keep personal feeling > separate. > > > > For people who have lost job in LoD or LoE or high points and particularly > when the points go very high then it means that the job they were currently > in or lets say one of the things it COULD MEAN is that that job was sort of > a dead end job and the promise of a high pay and authority and stability > could not be achieve as per the promise of the chart so the person looses > the job. Now if the person has been in that job for long time and if he is > called and told that his services are no longer required, and if he is a > dedicated worker then ofcourse he or she will feel bad and that is based on > the natural nature of a person, but then he will find another job which will > have much better scope of progress and maybe higher pay and authority > (depending on the WS and status etc), and then in retro after years if he or > she looks back then they will view that event in a different light. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > Friday September 28, 2007 9:00 AM > > RE: Re: please predict about the > marriage help -more datas > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > Thankyou for your views/comments here. > > I hope you will be regularly help us to learn more with your experience. > > > > Regards > > Anup > Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > My comments are inline. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:45 PM > > RE: Re: please predict about the > marriage help -more datas > > Dear Manu, > > Good..atleast we can laugh at this too:) > > But i am still eager to know why daily points rises to alarming heights(i > will use this word) > > when a person's heart is broken.I have observed in few charts. > > Manu: This is interesting observation. I have not yet observed so keenly, > however, the way I would reason is to consider what happens during death. > When a person dies, he is free from life and it's associated sufferings. He > is free from all bonds and ties. Now, if you ask a living person whether he > wants to die, in most cases the answer will be 'no'. Life although with > sufferings is still something that the person wants. Here too when a person > heart is broken, he may be in an accepting state, in a way he is free from > the bonds that would have resulted were it the case that the event was the > other way round. > > 1] My friend didnt get the due promotion though he was deserving,intelligent > > and was very much sure about getting thru the exams.He needed only 3 > extra marks to > > for this to qualify.His daily points were variable from 215-235 during > this month.Even this is showing till Nov2007.This was his third attempt > since last 3 years. > > He himself said after this failure that he is relieved now and do not feel > anything bad about this now unlike past two attempts.Now is always remain > cheerful in office. > > Manu: How a person feels is totally based on his personality. Someone may > get all tensed up upon knowing about his failure or can accept it like your > friend did (albeit with a pinch of salt). I guess you will see a difference > in daily points between first case and second case although the event would > be the same. > > 2] In one of the chart, engagement was broken but the daily points were > showing > > 217-225 > > > > Yes, i do agree that this engagement may be against wishes sometime and a > person > > may not be happy getting married and so on.Many aspects sld be considered > for this also. > > But we have to learn more yet:) > > Manu: Absolutely. > > Regards > > Anup > > > > Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > You are correct in what you have stated. Just to answer your query regarding > how can a person be relieved if his engagement breaks, I would assume all > should be relieved since they have been saved from getting caught in > marriage. > > On a serious note, there can be many reasons. How can we be sure that > engagement will bring only joy? What if the person really did not want to > get married and was forced to do so. There could be so many scenarios. > > Hope this helps. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > _____ > > size=2 width= " 100% " align=center tabIndex=-1> > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:46 AM > > RE: Re: please predict about the > marriage help -more datas > > Dear Manu, > > Nice to have a mail from you in this forum after a > long time. > > Well, you are right that daily points do not effect the event. > > But this reflects state of mind of the native, support from all planets > > including Sat and Jup,in transit. > > Now if , say, the low points show that a person may be busy when Sat and Jup > > are supporting and give sufficient 8 points in aggregate(more of equal 4+4we > say, better) > > Somewhere in archives this is written by Guruji that 20% effect of transit > is liable giving event. > > As in prior query about engagement, where Mars transit over zero point zone > of Moon > > and such event happened. > > More than 196 may reflect a person is enjoying with frds, good day,feeling > relieved > > of stress and worries etc as we all know. > > If we say taking this event, like engagement ,it is memorable and joyful day > for a > > male/female in most parts of the world,no matter,its first, second or > > third times,like in euprope. > > But if this engagement is broken,how a native can feel relieved from this > joy? > > The person may not be in a mood to celebrate this, i think !! > > So i think less than 196 points sld be there in daily points as such. > > Rather,it cld be a sad day for him/her, as on days, state of mind sld > reflect this too > > in transit, mostly by moon.I may be wrong but only for death event we take > such > > rule as native is relieved from this material world and free from tension > and worries > > after abononing physical body . > > This death like event happened once in a total life. > > But if we take engagement, this can be at a person's will or consent to > make or break up > > this event unlike death where a person never wants to die ever on his will > or as destined. > > I shall be awaiting your point of view including all members on this topic > of daily points. > > Regards > > Anup > > > > Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > Can you please elaborate further on your line of thought since I have a > slightly different viewpoint. > > As per my viewpoint, daily points do not effect events. For example, low > points may make the native quite busy with work. Breaking of engagement may > have relieved the native from the tensions and that could also very well > match with daily points being high. > > The effect of sa + ju is again considered not from event perspective but > more from that state of mind through which a native has to go through. > > Unless we know the real reasons of break in engagement and it's effect on > the native (good or bad), the daily points and sa+ju points may mislead. > > To check the event WS would be deciding factor. Daily points and sa+ju will > help us understand the environment in which the event took place and it's > effect on the native. > > Ofcourse I may be wrong in my understanding. I still need to look at the > chart in detail. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:26 AM > > Re: Re: please predict about the > marriage help -more datas > > Dear Group, > > As written by Venkat,engagement broken in august > month2004.Sun was transiting cancer sign, which has zero point in 1st > house,and 6,8,8,11 points respectively in 3rd,4th,5th,6th houses. > > Also 6,3,9 points in 8th,9th,12th houses. > > So this cld be 1st august -16th august2004. > > Transit contradicts this as daily points are too good and trasits points are > 8 in aggregate > > by Sat and Jup. > > Regards > > Anup > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote: > > Hi All, > > Thanks for the analysis, > > The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. > > She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. > > Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help > us to know. > > Thanks > > Venkat > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Rajesh, > date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to > study to.. > anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides > jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of > virgo asc. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > <%40> , Raj Rajesh > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members, > > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate > that. > > > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist > should write month too with years, when giving passed events). > > First I will take VIRGO Lagna > > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup > can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th. > > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat , > even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also > cannot be SD to Ven. > > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation. > > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because > its imp for us. > > > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is > exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and > Ra is SD Moon(LOE) > > > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat > > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to > give marriage , why it broke ? > > Ash we need your help here ? > > > > If I take Libra Lagna, > > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D > with 6 points( Match 100 %) > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%) > > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a > problem, All planets for 6th are high. > > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also > the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less > comparativily. > > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense > with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I > am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage. > > > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP. > > > > Best Regards, > > Rajesh > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna. > > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these > which goes > > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after > 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken > engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th > houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered. > > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be > taken as temporary basis, > > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B. > > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars > and with 30 pts. > > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house. > > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th > hosue. > > > > So now with which lagna to go with? > > Libra or Virgo? > > > > So more and more events are required with dates for further > validating lagna. > > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with > fewer events. > > > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here. > > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am > still awake all nite long > > for some reasons. > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > Hello All, > > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to > virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things. > > > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first) > > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life > > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job > > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is > facing lot of problems at work place . > > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher > > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In > general she ls ordinary person. > > > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you. > > > > Thanks > > Venkat > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji, > > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house > > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening > > antra for the native. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > > <%40> , " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the > > > native might be in high post. > > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in > > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial. > > > Ashji can guide on this. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > <%40> , Raj Rajesh > > > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash, > > > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is > > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the > > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly > > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others. > > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like > > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance / > > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any > > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive , > > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > > Is native look younger than her age etc > > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/ > > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009. > > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare > > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and > > > suddenly stopped spending money too much. > > > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna > > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase > > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making > > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more > > > expense. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards, > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat, > > > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate. > > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay > period > > > > is over. > > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no > > > > blessings from father or guru. > > > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house. > > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords. > > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn. > > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12. > > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4. > > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8. > > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out. > > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house. > > > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ? > > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ? > > > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th > > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr. > > > > if any feedback on that particular time? > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > <%40> , Tammy Wood > > > > <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation. > > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking > > > > about divorce > > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to > > > > misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help > > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here. > > > > > Taking Libra lagna.... > > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will > > > > break up. > > > > > there is Jup delay. > > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon. > > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus, > > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts. > > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and > > > > Moon shows > > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social > > life. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members, > > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning > > > > this sysytem. > > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5 > > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra > > > > Lagna. > > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons. > > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB > > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars > > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house > > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha > > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha > > > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS. > > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay > > > > the marriage that much ? > > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to > > > > Nov 2009. > > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it > > > > can give marriage. > > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector > > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007 > > > > to Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in > > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ? > > > > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra > > > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there > > > > are no zeros there. > > > > > > > > > > Pls suggest. > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > Hello Gurujis, > > > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below > > > > person get married. > > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M > > > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India > > > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights > > > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot of > remedies. > > > > Will she get a good life partner. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dear Harjeet, Keep this in mind. Remind me when u come across such a chart then we can study this phenomena. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi Friday September 28, 2007 12:45 PM Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Ashji, you have already stated that if antra of lord of 12th from B is going on and its having high points for B then event would occur but would be problematic.. if event occurs in the antra of D or E... but is having less points in worksheet for house B. how would the result be ? i guess it would be not a happy event/result too... please give your expertise. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Hello Boys, > > Take another example. A person loosing job that he or she held for long > time in LoD or LoE antra. That time one feels very bad when the event > happens, then after some time the person gets a better job with more > authority and $ and that time, that same event that he or she thought was > bad turns out a blessing in disguise. > > > > Manu is right about death. It happens in highest points. Now these points > are points and its doing its job. How " We Feel " about the event and how we > classify the event that is different. > > > > As per KAS and if u would have noticed in so many charts that death happens > in highest points. Now if it's a close person to us or a family member, > then we will ofcourse feel very sad but that is " how we feel towards the > event " . As far as KAS goes, and for timing of event, it happened in the > highest power planet. We define an event happening in highest power as > Good. > > > > Similarly, marriage, if it happens in lowest points then " we feel that the > event is good " and then when high power planet comes then it will break the > marriage and " we feel that this event is bad " as it might be causing a lot > of grief to all parties and families concerned, but then the points are high > or its LoD or LoE antra then ? > > > > Now, when such a thing is happening and if strong pdf is running for 7th and > at the same time the points are going higher and higher say up and more than > 230 then, the force will be more, but then in our minds if we have > classified it " bad event " then one will even feel more depressed when such > things happen as the power of daily points is more so its force is more and > its going against what the person wants i.e. to save the marriage, so here, > one is trying to swim against the tide and the tide is getting stronger and > stronger (daily points). > > > > Now at that point in time, if u ask such a person or if some a person see > the daily points, he might be puzzled as to why is he or she feeling so > depressed or sad and more so if the points are going higher and higher. > > > > So as far as KAS is concerned and the points, then it means that the > marriage happened in lowest power planet means its not good so when LoD or > LoE come or high power planet then it will try to do " Good " by flushing out > the bad and that is w.r.t points AND NOT HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT. > > > > Just see Sandy's chart that Donna wrote about, the daily points were in > rising order, so it was good, and that made Sandy take the right decisions. > So if the points are in rising trend then the person might take proper > decision and in Sandy case it saved her husbands life. > > > > So u have to try to read these points w.r.t KAS and keep personal feeling > separate. > > > > For people who have lost job in LoD or LoE or high points and particularly > when the points go very high then it means that the job they were currently > in or lets say one of the things it COULD MEAN is that that job was sort of > a dead end job and the promise of a high pay and authority and stability > could not be achieve as per the promise of the chart so the person looses > the job. Now if the person has been in that job for long time and if he is > called and told that his services are no longer required, and if he is a > dedicated worker then ofcourse he or she will feel bad and that is based on > the natural nature of a person, but then he will find another job which will > have much better scope of progress and maybe higher pay and authority > (depending on the WS and status etc), and then in retro after years if he or > she looks back then they will view that event in a different light. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > Friday September 28, 2007 9:00 AM > > RE: Re: please predict about the > marriage help -more datas > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > Thankyou for your views/comments here. > > I hope you will be regularly help us to learn more with your experience. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > My comments are inline. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:45 PM > > RE: Re: please predict about the > marriage help -more datas > > Dear Manu, > > Good..atleast we can laugh at this too:) > > But i am still eager to know why daily points rises to alarming heights(i > will use this word) > > when a person's heart is broken.I have observed in few charts. > > Manu: This is interesting observation. I have not yet observed so keenly, > however, the way I would reason is to consider what happens during death. > When a person dies, he is free from life and it's associated sufferings. He > is free from all bonds and ties. Now, if you ask a living person whether he > wants to die, in most cases the answer will be 'no'. Life although with > sufferings is still something that the person wants. Here too when a person > heart is broken, he may be in an accepting state, in a way he is free from > the bonds that would have resulted were it the case that the event was the > other way round. > > 1] My friend didnt get the due promotion though he was deserving,intelligent > > and was very much sure about getting thru the exams.He needed only 3 > extra marks to > > for this to qualify.His daily points were variable from 215-235 during > this month.Even this is showing till Nov2007.This was his third attempt > since last 3 years. > > He himself said after this failure that he is relieved now and do not feel > anything bad about this now unlike past two attempts.Now is always remain > cheerful in office. > > Manu: How a person feels is totally based on his personality. Someone may > get all tensed up upon knowing about his failure or can accept it like your > friend did (albeit with a pinch of salt). I guess you will see a difference > in daily points between first case and second case although the event would > be the same. > > 2] In one of the chart, engagement was broken but the daily points were > showing > > 217-225 > > > > Yes, i do agree that this engagement may be against wishes sometime and a > person > > may not be happy getting married and so on.Many aspects sld be considered > for this also. > > But we have to learn more yet:) > > Manu: Absolutely. > > Regards > > Anup > > > > Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > You are correct in what you have stated. Just to answer your query regarding > how can a person be relieved if his engagement breaks, I would assume all > should be relieved since they have been saved from getting caught in > marriage. > > On a serious note, there can be many reasons. How can we be sure that > engagement will bring only joy? What if the person really did not want to > get married and was forced to do so. There could be so many scenarios. > > Hope this helps. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > _____ > > size=2 width= " 100% " align=center tabIndex=-1> > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:46 AM > > RE: Re: please predict about the > marriage help -more datas > > Dear Manu, > > Nice to have a mail from you in this forum after a > long time. > > Well, you are right that daily points do not effect the event. > > But this reflects state of mind of the native, support from all planets > > including Sat and Jup,in transit. > > Now if , say, the low points show that a person may be busy when Sat and Jup > > are supporting and give sufficient 8 points in aggregate(more of equal 4+4we > say, better) > > Somewhere in archives this is written by Guruji that 20% effect of transit > is liable giving event. > > As in prior query about engagement, where Mars transit over zero point zone > of Moon > > and such event happened. > > More than 196 may reflect a person is enjoying with frds, good day,feeling > relieved > > of stress and worries etc as we all know. > > If we say taking this event, like engagement ,it is memorable and joyful day > for a > > male/female in most parts of the world,no matter,its first, second or > > third times,like in euprope. > > But if this engagement is broken,how a native can feel relieved from this > joy? > > The person may not be in a mood to celebrate this, i think !! > > So i think less than 196 points sld be there in daily points as such. > > Rather,it cld be a sad day for him/her, as on days, state of mind sld > reflect this too > > in transit, mostly by moon.I may be wrong but only for death event we take > such > > rule as native is relieved from this material world and free from tension > and worries > > after abononing physical body . > > This death like event happened once in a total life. > > But if we take engagement, this can be at a person's will or consent to > make or break up > > this event unlike death where a person never wants to die ever on his will > or as destined. > > I shall be awaiting your point of view including all members on this topic > of daily points. > > Regards > > Anup > > > > Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > Can you please elaborate further on your line of thought since I have a > slightly different viewpoint. > > As per my viewpoint, daily points do not effect events. For example, low > points may make the native quite busy with work. Breaking of engagement may > have relieved the native from the tensions and that could also very well > match with daily points being high. > > The effect of sa + ju is again considered not from event perspective but > more from that state of mind through which a native has to go through. > > Unless we know the real reasons of break in engagement and it's effect on > the native (good or bad), the daily points and sa+ju points may mislead. > > To check the event WS would be deciding factor. Daily points and sa+ju will > help us understand the environment in which the event took place and it's > effect on the native. > > Ofcourse I may be wrong in my understanding. I still need to look at the > chart in detail. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:26 AM > > Re: Re: please predict about the > marriage help -more datas > > Dear Group, > > As written by Venkat,engagement broken in august > month2004.Sun was transiting cancer sign, which has zero point in 1st > house,and 6,8,8,11 points respectively in 3rd,4th,5th,6th houses. > > Also 6,3,9 points in 8th,9th,12th houses. > > So this cld be 1st august -16th august2004. > > Transit contradicts this as daily points are too good and trasits points are > 8 in aggregate > > by Sat and Jup. > > Regards > > Anup > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote: > > Hi All, > > Thanks for the analysis, > > The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. > > She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. > > Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help > us to know. > > Thanks > > Venkat > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Rajesh, > date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important to > study to.. > anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precides > jupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case of > virgo asc. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > <%40> , Raj Rajesh > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members, > > Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciate > that. > > > > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the querist > should write month too with years, when giving passed events). > > First I will take VIRGO Lagna > > 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jup > can not give result here because it has low points here for 5th. > > If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat , > even then Sat can not give result because of low points and also > cannot be SD to Ven. > > Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation. > > Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, because > its imp for us. > > > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this is > exactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points and > Ra is SD Moon(LOE) > > > > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat > > 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate to > give marriage , why it broke ? > > Ash we need your help here ? > > > > If I take Libra Lagna, > > 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house D > with 6 points( Match 100 %) > > 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%) > > Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not a > problem, All planets for 6th are high. > > 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th also > the FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are less > comparativily. > > 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sense > with Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But I > am not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage. > > > > Ash and other member , PLS HELP. > > > > Best Regards, > > Rajesh > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna. > > Sorry i didnt mention in my mail. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of these > which goes > > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after > 1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,broken > engagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5th > houses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered. > > As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can be > taken as temporary basis, > > and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B. > > 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Mars > and with 30 pts. > > So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house. > > But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5th > hosue. > > > > So now with which lagna to go with? > > Libra or Virgo? > > > > So more and more events are required with dates for further > validating lagna. > > Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel with > fewer events. > > > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here. > > Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i am > still awake all nite long > > for some reasons. > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote: > > Hello All, > > Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs to > virgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things. > > > > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first) > > 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life > > 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job > > 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she is > facing lot of problems at work place . > > 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher > > 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.In > general she ls ordinary person. > > > > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you. > > > > Thanks > > Venkat > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji, > > also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house > > ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening > > antra for the native. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > > <%40> , " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the > > > native might be in high post. > > > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in > > > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial. > > > Ashji can guide on this. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > <%40> , Raj Rajesh > > > <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash, > > > > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is > > > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the > > > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly > > > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others. > > > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like > > > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance / > > > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any > > > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive , > > > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > > Is native look younger than her age etc > > > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/ > > > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009. > > > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare > > > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and > > > suddenly stopped spending money too much. > > > > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna > > > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase > > > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making > > > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more > > > expense. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards, > > > > Rajesh > > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat, > > > > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate. > > > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delay > period > > > > is over. > > > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no > > > > blessings from father or guru. > > > > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house. > > > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords. > > > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn. > > > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12. > > > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4. > > > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8. > > > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out. > > > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house. > > > > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ? > > > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ? > > > > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th > > > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr. > > > > if any feedback on that particular time? > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > <%40> , Tammy Wood > > > > <tamtamger@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation. > > > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking > > > > about divorce > > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to > > > > misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help > > > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here. > > > > > Taking Libra lagna.... > > > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will > > > > break up. > > > > > there is Jup delay. > > > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon. > > > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus, > > > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts. > > > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and > > > > Moon shows > > > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social > > life. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote: > > > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members, > > > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning > > > > this sysytem. > > > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5 > > > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra > > > > Lagna. > > > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons. > > > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB > > > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars > > > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house > > > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha > > > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha > > > > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS. > > > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay > > > > the marriage that much ? > > > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to > > > > Nov 2009. > > > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it > > > > can give marriage. > > > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector > > > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007 > > > > to Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in > > > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dear Ash, A W E S O M E!!! Thanks Teacher, for your presence and explaining this all. How can we be getting more and more out of you? Only this way. Also, at least you consider we all are boys:) Reagrds Anup Ash <kas wrote: Hello Boys, Take another example. A person loosing job that he or she held for long time in LoD or LoE antra. That time one feels very bad when the event happens, then after some time the person gets a better job with more authority and $ and that time, that same event that he or she thought was bad turns out a blessing in disguise. Manu is right about death. It happens in highest points. Now these points are points and its doing its job. How “We Feel” about the event and how we classify the event that is different. As per KAS and if u would have noticed in so many charts that death happens in highest points. Now if it’s a close person to us or a family member, then we will ofcourse feel very sad but that is “how we feel towards the event”. As far as KAS goes, and for timing of event, it happened in the highest power planet. We define an event happening in highest power as Good. Similarly, marriage, if it happens in lowest points then “we feel that the event is good” and then when high power planet comes then it will break the marriage and “we feel that this event is bad” as it might be causing a lot of grief to all parties and families concerned, but then the points are high or its LoD or LoE antra then ? Now, when such a thing is happening and if strong pdf is running for 7th and at the same time the points are going higher and higher say up and more than 230 then, the force will be more, but then in our minds if we have classified it “bad event” then one will even feel more depressed when such things happen as the power of daily points is more so its force is more and its going against what the person wants i.e. to save the marriage, so here, one is trying to swim against the tide and the tide is getting stronger and stronger (daily points). Now at that point in time, if u ask such a person or if some a person see the daily points, he might be puzzled as to why is he or she feeling so depressed or sad and more so if the points are going higher and higher. So as far as KAS is concerned and the points, then it means that the marriage happened in lowest power planet means its not good so when LoD or LoE come or high power planet then it will try to do “Good” by flushing out the bad and that is w.r.t points AND NOT HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT. Just see Sandy’s chart that Donna wrote about, the daily points were in rising order, so it was good, and that made Sandy take the right decisions. So if the points are in rising trend then the person might take proper decision and in Sandy case it saved her husbands life. So u have to try to read these points w.r.t KAS and keep personal feeling separate. For people who have lost job in LoD or LoE or high points and particularly when the points go very high then it means that the job they were currently in or lets say one of the things it COULD MEAN is that that job was sort of a dead end job and the promise of a high pay and authority and stability could not be achieve as per the promise of the chart so the person looses the job. Now if the person has been in that job for long time and if he is called and told that his services are no longer required, and if he is a dedicated worker then ofcourse he or she will feel bad and that is based on the natural nature of a person, but then he will find another job which will have much better scope of progress and maybe higher pay and authority (depending on the WS and status etc), and then in retro after years if he or she looks back then they will view that event in a different light. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. MFriday September 28, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Manu, Thankyou for your views/comments here. I hope you will be regularly help us to learn more with your experience. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu > wrote: Dear Anup, My comments are inline. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. MThursday, September 27, 2007 8:45 PM Subject: RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Manu, Good..atleast we can laugh at this too:) But i am still eager to know why daily points rises to alarming heights(i will use this word) when a person's heart is broken.I have observed in few charts. Manu: This is interesting observation. I have not yet observed so keenly, however, the way I would reason is to consider what happens during death. When a person dies, he is free from life and it’s associated sufferings. He is free from all bonds and ties. Now, if you ask a living person whether he wants to die, in most cases the answer will be ‘no’. Life although with sufferings is still something that the person wants. Here too when a person heart is broken, he may be in an accepting state, in a way he is free from the bonds that would have resulted were it the case that the event was the other way round. 1] My friend didnt get the due promotion though he was deserving,intelligent and was very much sure about getting thru the exams.He needed only 3 extra marks to for this to qualify.His daily points were variable from 215-235 during this month.Even this is showing till Nov2007.This was his third attempt since last 3 years. He himself said after this failure that he is relieved now and do not feel anything bad about this now unlike past two attempts.Now is always remain cheerful in office. Manu: How a person feels is totally based on his personality. Someone may get all tensed up upon knowing about his failure or can accept it like your friend did (albeit with a pinch of salt). I guess you will see a difference in daily points between first case and second case although the event would be the same. 2] In one of the chart, engagement was broken but the daily points were showing 217-225 Yes, i do agree that this engagement may be against wishes sometime and a person may not be happy getting married and so on.Many aspects sld be considered for this also. But we have to learn more yet:) Manu: Absolutely. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu > wrote: Dear Anup, You are correct in what you have stated. Just to answer your query regarding how can a person be relieved if his engagement breaks, I would assume all should be relieved since they have been saved from getting caught in marriage. On a serious note, there can be many reasons. How can we be sure that engagement will bring only joy? What if the person really did not want to get married and was forced to do so. There could be so many scenarios. Hope this helps. Thanks & Regards, Manu size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1> On Behalf Of Anup. MWednesday, September 26, 2007 5:46 AM Subject: RE: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Manu, Nice to have a mail from you in this forum after a long time. Well, you are right that daily points do not effect the event. But this reflects state of mind of the native, support from all planets including Sat and Jup,in transit. Now if , say, the low points show that a person may be busy when Sat and Jup are supporting and give sufficient 8 points in aggregate(more of equal 4+4we say, better) Somewhere in archives this is written by Guruji that 20% effect of transit is liable giving event. As in prior query about engagement, where Mars transit over zero point zone of Moon and such event happened. More than 196 may reflect a person is enjoying with frds, good day,feeling relieved of stress and worries etc as we all know. If we say taking this event, like engagement ,it is memorable and joyful day for a male/female in most parts of the world,no matter,its first, second or third times,like in euprope. But if this engagement is broken,how a native can feel relieved from this joy? The person may not be in a mood to celebrate this, i think !! So i think less than 196 points sld be there in daily points as such. Rather,it cld be a sad day for him/her, as on days, state of mind sld reflect this too in transit, mostly by moon.I may be wrong but only for death event we take such rule as native is relieved from this material world and free from tension and worries after abononing physical body . This death like event happened once in a total life. But if we take engagement, this can be at a person's will or consent to make or break up this event unlike death where a person never wants to die ever on his will or as destined. I shall be awaiting your point of view including all members on this topic of daily points. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu > wrote: Dear Anup, Can you please elaborate further on your line of thought since I have a slightly different viewpoint. As per my viewpoint, daily points do not effect events. For example, low points may make the native quite busy with work. Breaking of engagement may have relieved the native from the tensions and that could also very well match with daily points being high. The effect of sa + ju is again considered not from event perspective but more from that state of mind through which a native has to go through. Unless we know the real reasons of break in engagement and it’s effect on the native (good or bad), the daily points and sa+ju points may mislead. To check the event WS would be deciding factor. Daily points and sa+ju will help us understand the environment in which the event took place and it’s effect on the native. Ofcourse I may be wrong in my understanding. I still need to look at the chart in detail. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. MWednesday, September 26, 2007 2:26 AM Subject: Re: Re: please predict about the marriage help -more datas Dear Group, As written by Venkat,engagement broken in august month2004.Sun was transiting cancer sign, which has zero point in 1st house,and 6,8,8,11 points respectively in 3rd,4th,5th,6th houses. Also 6,3,9 points in 8th,9th,12th houses. So this cld be 1st august -16th august2004. Transit contradicts this as daily points are too good and trasits points are 8 in aggregate by Sat and Jup. Regards Anup Tammy Wood <tamtamger (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the analysis, The engagement cancelled in August 2004. I dont remember the date. She got graduated in December 1991 First. Second Graduation 1996 April./May. Irrespective of Virgo/Libra lagna, Will she get married or not please help us to know. Thanks Venkatharjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: Dear Rajesh,date of engagement and date of breaking of marriage is important tostudy to..anyway it might have happened in the antra of rahu too that precidesjupiter which is samdhari to saturn which is lord of 6th in case ofvirgo asc.thanks/regardsharjeet , Raj Rajesh<astro_raj9 wrote:>> Dear Anup/Harjeet/Ash and all the members,> Please correct me , wherever I am wrong. I will highly appreciatethat.> > I am going as per the feedback of Mr. Venkat( All the queristshould write month too with years, when giving passed events).> First I will take VIRGO Lagna> 1) Graduation - year 1991 ( Ketu - Jupiter) here 5th as B, Jupcan not give result here because it has low points here for 5th.> If the graduation I take after 1991 Nov , the dasha is Ketu- sat ,even then Sat can not give result because of low points and alsocannot be SD to Ven.> Yes asper Anup, If it is after dec 1992, then Mer can give graduation.> Mr. Venkat can comment if he wants to add something here, becauseits imp for us.> > 2) Ordinary Jobs : Ven - Ma/Ra/Ju from 2000 - 2005, this isexactly in line, because Ma is LOD, Jup in D house with 5 points andRa is SD Moon(LOE)> > 3) Good Jov Ven/Sat -- I would say Good money in sat> 4) Marriage cancelled -- Ven/Ju - Jup is for sure a candidate togive marriage , why it broke ?> Ash we need your help here ?> > If I take Libra Lagna,> 1) Graduation - 1991 - Ketu/Jup -- Jup is perfect here, In house Dwith 6 points( Match 100 %)> 2) Ordinary Jobs : ven - Ra / Jup/ Sat ( match 100%)> Most of the planets are giving jobs here. Getting a job is not aproblem, All planets for 6th are high.> 3) Good Job : Ven/Sat : Sat has 27 points, highest for 10th alsothe FK , so good job, Oh yes, Gains out of the hard work are lesscomparativily.> 4) Marriage got cancelled in 2004 : Ven/Jup : This makes sensewith Libra Lagna because Jup is 6th lord and spoiling LOA & NK. But Iam not sure is this enough for cancelling marriage.> > Ash and other member , PLS HELP.> > Best Regards,> Rajesh> > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > The below events inline sld be taken as Virgo Lagna.> Sorry i didnt mention in my mail.> > Regards> Anup> > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:> Dear Group,> > As Venkat has given few events of past, few of thesewhich goes > inline like Graduation in Mercury antra in 1991 (if it is after1991),good Money in Saturn antra in the end of 2006-2007,brokenengagement in 2004 in Jup antra where Jup is weak in 3rd,4th, 5thhouses etc.Few small jobs may be in Venus, Mars antras can be considered.> As the native did many jobs in different intervals,so these can betaken as temporary basis,> and cant be viewed from 6th hosue as house B.> 7th house shows most of the planets in good strength except Marsand with 30 pts.> So this indicates 7th house is not a weak house.> But 5th house shows 4 planets below 12pts, indicating a weak 5thhosue.> > So now with which lagna to go with?> Libra or Virgo?> > So more and more events are required with dates for furthervalidating lagna.> Like in past in one of the query,two lagna went parallel withfewer events. > > Taking libra lagna few events does not match here.> Hoping Ramesh, Harjeet and all wld continue further as i amstill awake all nite long> for some reasons.> > > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger wrote:> Hello All,> Thanks for the analysis. I am not sure whether she belongs tovirgo ascendant or Libra ascendant. Here are some of the things.> > 1) she got graduated in 1991( first)> 2) from 1992 and 1993 are black years with no improbvement in life> 3) 1996 - 1999 - small job> 4) 2000 - 2005 - Ordinalry job > 5) end of 2006 to 2007 - Job is ok ,she made good money but she isfacing lot of problems at work place .> 6) 2004 Marriage cancelled on the day of engagement(love) > 7) She does not spend money and she is not a lavisher> 9) she gets angry and nervous when she is irritated a lot.Ingeneral she ls ordinary person.> > Please let me know if these datas are ok for you.> > Thanks> Venkat> harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> Dear Ramesh/Venkat/Ashji,> also expenditure would be more for virgo asc. > specially in venus antra there should be some purchase of car or house> ? venus gets strong for all houses. so venus antra would be happening> antra for the native.> thanks/regards> harjeet> > , "harjeet bakshi"> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Rajesh,> > according to virgo asc. the points rise in DBCE from asc. so the> > native might be in high post.> > saturn associates with ABCDE either by sight on house or lord or in> > navamsa. saturn is 6th lord. this might be the reason for denial.> > Ashji can guide on this.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > , Raj Rajesh> > <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Harjeet/Anup/Ramesh/Venkat/Ash,> > > > > > Thank You for your input here. According to Harjeet Virgo Lagna is> > eually displaying all the delays etc. One thing is sure from both the> > lagnas , that there is no denyl. > > > I think we should check some of the passed events, as rightly> > suggested by Mr. Harjit and others.> > > So Mr. Venkat pls list down some of the passed evnts like> > Graduation year, First Job, Line of profession, Any romance /> > Heartbreak, Level of expenses( too high/ or less) in general, Any> > tragedy in the family, Is the native very confident, aggresive ,> > outspoken or mild character/ Mr. nice. > > > Is native look younger than her age etc> > > And If the we take virgo Lagna , the native is going through Ven/> > Sat dasha from oct 2006 to Dec 2009.> > > During this period , Has she started making more money as compare> > to other periods, is she sleeping less, general sukha is less , and> > suddenly stopped spending money too much.> > > > > > Or If we take Libra Lagna> > > During the period of Aug 2006 onwards, Has there been any increase> > in the authority and responsibility. And if yes then she is not making> > that comparable money , i.e., more effort and less money and more> > expense. > > > > > > Thanks & Best Regards,> > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > Dear Rajesh/Anup/Ramesh/Ashji/Venkat,> > > > > > i think virgo asc. is more appropriate.> > > delay by both saturn and jupiter here... even though the delayperiod> > > is over.> > > lagna lord and 9th lord in 2:12 in both rasi and navamsa.. so no> > > blessings from father or guru.> > > > > > points are pretty decent for most of planets for 7th and 12th house.> > > also 5 planets having association with 2nd house or 2nd lord... > > > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting all A,B,C,D and E houses or their lords.> > > moon is the only planet thats not associated with saturn.> > > lagna and moon sign lord and 7th lord from there are 2:12.> > > sun and venus sign lord and 7th from there are in 1:4.> > > mars sign lord and 7th from there are 6:8.> > > so event of marriage is unlikely.. but isnt ruled out.> > > current antra of saturn might give result being lord of 6th house.> > > > > > is the native confident, stubborn and at good post ?> > > does she like to live lavishly and has more expense ?> > > > > > antra of venus seems to be very favourable for 5th,7th and 12th> > > house... during 1993 dec to 1997 apr.> > > if any feedback on that particular time?> > > > > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > , Tammy Wood> > > <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello All,> > > > I am venkat repling to all the conversation.> > > > 1) She is not married until now so there is no point in talking> > > about divorce > > > > 2) her Marriage went upt o engegemnt and cancelled in 2004 due to> > > misunderstanding.> > > > > > > > Will she get married ? if so how would be her life > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for all your help> > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > > Dear Rajesh,> > > > > > > > I want to add few more points here.> > > > Taking Libra lagna....> > > > Jupitor in 2nd house as 6th lord is bad for family, family will> > > break up.> > > > there is Jup delay.> > > > Moon ,LOC, in 6th house and 6th lord Jup aspect Moon.> > > > Saturn aspect on Venus enhances negative qualities of Venus,> > > > Points in 7th house in summary are 21, means lower than 28pts.> > > > Venus in two sectors of lagna plus Jup in three sectors of Sun and> > > Moon shows> > > > native is more of venusian qualities and hypocrite too in social> life.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Rajesh <astro_raj9@> wrote:> > > > Hello Venkat, Ash and Other List members,> > > > Pls correct me where ever I am wrong because I am just learning> > > this sysytem.> > > > Venkat, How confident are you for the time of Birth? because 5> > > min before there is a virgo Lagna and at 5.05 AM there is this Libra> > > Lagna.> > > > I think , the Lagna is Libra due to the following reasons.> > > > 1) Sat aspect LOA and LOB> > > > 2) Sat aspect NK , Ven and FK , Mars> > > > 3) There is zero given by sat in 5th house> > > > 4) 6th lord Jup is spoiling Ven in both Rashi and Navamsha> > > > 7) FK Mars is with 6th lord in Navamsha> > > > > > > > so both Karkas are spoiled. > > > > Now all the planets , other than Moon has good points in WS.> > > > Now the question is , Are the above reasons are enough to delay> > > the marriage that much ?> > > > Now the native is going through dasha of ven/Sat from sept,2006 to> > > Nov 2009.> > > > Sat is aspecting Hose A but it is LOD and has 19 points , so it> > > can give marriage.> > > > Since it is LOD so native should get married in the first sector> > > itself but if not then definately in second sector, that is oct 2007> > > to Nov 2008.> > > > > > > > Now the another question is why the native did not get married in> > > Rahu dasha from 2001 to 2004. Pls help here ?> > > > > > > > If I take virgo Lagna, situation is not that bad as the Libra> > > Lagna. Yes in this Sat, 6th lord is spoiling NK and FK Ven but there> > > are no zeros there.> > > > > > > > Pls suggest.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > Rajesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Wood <tamtamger@> wrote:> > > > Hello Gurujis,> > > > Please look into the horoscope and tell me when will the below> > > person get married. > > > > > > > > Date of Birth: november - 1 -1971 > > > > TIme of Birth : 5-05 A.M> > > > Place of Birth: Cuddalore ,India> > > > Does this native has a good maried life. Please throw some lights> > > as we are in depressed mood due to her. she has done lot ofremedies.> > > Will she get a good life partner.> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > Venkat> > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have> > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. 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