Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear List, Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of A or B as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs LoA or A and is lord of B can he cause delay ? I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM 83 W 09 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. Thanks Satish ______________________________\ ____ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Satish, good question. i too think about it specially when jupiter is loE or LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and waiting for the reply. there is another thing to consider too.. it may be possible that the chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... so even when there is delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. so if the birth time is not precise, thats very difficult to know if marriage occured on time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or its because of the blessing formed in navamsa. i am working on a chart and trying to change the time around if i can find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in navamsa yet. may be Ashji can guide us on that. thanks/regards harjeet , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear List, > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of A or B > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs LoA or A > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM 83 W 09 > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > Thanks > > Satish > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Satish and Harjeet, Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house A/B, OR LoB in addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B then full delay is caused by Ju. The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen in navamsa also. House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. In the given chart Ju is causing delay. Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings may moderate the delay depending upon other factors such as zero point , aspect of Sa on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status of Ve. This all is discussed .You may find it in archives. Ramesh Mishra , " harjeet bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Satish, > good question. i too think about it specially when jupiter is loE or > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and waiting for the reply. > there is another thing to consider too.. it may be possible that the > chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... so even when there is > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. so if the birth time > is not precise, thats very difficult to know if marriage occured on > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or its because of the > blessing formed in navamsa. > i am working on a chart and trying to change the time around if i can > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in navamsa yet. > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > thanks/regards > harjeet > , SPK > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Dear List, > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of A or B > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs LoA or A > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM 83 W 09 > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > Thanks > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Thanks Ramesh --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house A/B, > OR LoB in > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B then > full delay is > caused by Ju. > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen in > navamsa also. > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings may > moderate the > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > point , aspect of Sa > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status of > Ve. > This all is discussed .You may find it in archives. > Ramesh Mishra > , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > good question. i too think about it specially when > jupiter is loE or > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and waiting > for the reply. > > there is another thing to consider too.. it may be > possible that the > > chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... > so even when there > is > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. > so if the birth > time > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know if > marriage occured on > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or its > because of the > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > i am working on a chart and trying to change the > time around if i > can > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > navamsa yet. > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , > SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of A > or B > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs > LoA or A > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM > 83 W 09 > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > ______________ > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. > > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear All, I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th house has only 22 points compared to 3rd house. This person might have big dreams but not enough effort to follow it up. Also his relationship with father I see that he might not derive much happiness from that or might be living away. 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as well. 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected by 6th lord and 6th lord is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting spoilt. Satish, can u say something about his father? Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in opposition. NK and FK Venus is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects this Venus and luminiary. This chart is of a person from west, so here for marriage 5th house becomes important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest all are weak. Again 10th house SAV is only 22 points. Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is aspecting Me and Ve, 11th house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to distance from sun. This person might want to enjoy life and might not want commitment. This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. What are the facts Satish. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM Re: Re: Jupiter Delay Thanks Ramesh --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house A/B, > OR LoB in > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B then > full delay is > caused by Ju. > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen in > navamsa also. > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings may > moderate the > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > point , aspect of Sa > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status of > Ve. > This all is discussed .You may find it in archives. > Ramesh Mishra > , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > good question. i too think about it specially when > jupiter is loE or > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and waiting > for the reply. > > there is another thing to consider too.. it may be > possible that the > > chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... > so even when there > is > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. > so if the birth > time > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know if > marriage occured on > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or its > because of the > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > i am working on a chart and trying to change the > time around if i > can > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > navamsa yet. > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , > SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of A > or B > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs > LoA or A > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM > 83 W 09 > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > ______________ > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. > > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > > > > ________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Satish and all, Primarily,When its LoD or Loe, these always eager to deliver event. No way, what ever condition after this.delay, 6th lord, or karka in 6th house This is not applied for quality but for timing of event. Regards Anup Anup SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: Dear Harjeet,I think there was a discussion on this topic in thepast. Not sure whether there is a formal lesson onthis topic.That is what happens if delay causing planet becomesLoE or LoD. It is eager to give the event at the sametime it is causing delay. How will it act and based onwhat parameters.ThanksSatish--- harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote:> Dear Satish,> good question. i too think about it specially when> jupiter is loE or> LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and waiting> for the reply.> there is another thing to consider too.. it may be> possible that the> chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... so> even when there is> delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. so> if the birth time> is not precise, thats very difficult to know if> marriage occured on> time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or its> because of the> blessing formed in navamsa.> i am working on a chart and trying to change the> time around if i can> find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in navamsa> yet.> may be Ashji can guide us on that.> thanks/regards> harjeet> , SPK> <aquaris_rising wrote:> >> > Dear List,> > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of A> or B> > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs LoA> or A> > and is lord of B can he cause delay ?> > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM 83> W 09> > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo.> > > > Thanks> > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > >>________> > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you> sell. > > http://searchmarketing./> >> > > ________Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=summer+activities+for+kids & cs=bz Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Anup, If I understand you correctly, you mean they will give the result only after the delay is over and delay takes precedence over being eager as LoD and LoE. Satish P.S. Ash, I will find out more. Only thing I know is that a person is a lawyer. --- " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Satish and all, > > Primarily,When its LoD or > Loe, these always eager to deliver event. > No way, what ever condition after this.delay, 6th > lord, or karka in 6th house > This is not applied for quality but for timing of > event. > > Regards > Anup > Anup > > > > > SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > Dear Harjeet, > > I think there was a discussion on this topic in the > past. Not sure whether there is a formal lesson on > this topic. > > That is what happens if delay causing planet becomes > LoE or LoD. It is eager to give the event at the > same > time it is causing delay. How will it act and based > on > what parameters. > > Thanks > > Satish > --- harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > Dear Satish, > > good question. i too think about it specially when > > jupiter is loE or > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and waiting > > for the reply. > > there is another thing to consider too.. it may be > > possible that the > > chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... > so > > even when there is > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. > so > > if the birth time > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know if > > marriage occured on > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or its > > because of the > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > i am working on a chart and trying to change the > > time around if i can > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > navamsa > > yet. > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , > SPK > > <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of A > > or B > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs > LoA > > or A > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM 83 > > W 09 > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > > sell. > > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=summer+activities+for+kids & cs=bz > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos. ______________________________\ ____ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Ash, Thanks. I will find out the facts. I am not sure where 9th lord is apsected by 6th lord ? Shani the 6th lord is in 9th house and shukra is 8th. Yes 6th lord is in 9th. and 9th lord is in 8th i.e. 12th from 9th. Luminary is aspected by saturn. I think the person may have had realtionship in shani-guru fag end i.e. late 1996. Ju delay was over but had not touched the seventh lord but had not touched the seventh house. May have to do that to get rid of the blemish of sun-ve distance. Blessing is in navansha , but between lagna and 9th lord of rashi. Not sure how powerful is this blessing ( Personally I will give precedence to blessing in Rashi) Anyway I will find out more. What gives indication of multiple relationships. 7th lord is in a dual sign and 7th house has budh. Thanks Satish --- Ash <kas wrote: > Dear All, > > I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th > house has only 22 points > compared to 3rd house. This person might have big > dreams but not enough > effort to follow it up. > > Also his relationship with father I see that he > might not derive much > happiness from that or might be living away. > > 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as > well. > > 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected by > 6th lord and 6th lord > is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting spoilt. > Satish, can u say > something about his father? > > Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in > opposition. NK and FK Venus > is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects > this Venus and luminiary. > > > This chart is of a person from west, so here for > marriage 5th house becomes > important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest > all are weak. Again 10th > house SAV is only 22 points. > > Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is > aspecting Me and Ve, 11th > house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to distance > from sun. > > This person might want to enjoy life and might not > want commitment. > > This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. > > What are the facts Satish. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On > Behalf Of SPK > Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM > > Re: Re: Jupiter > Delay > > > > Thanks Ramesh > --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 > <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > > wrote: > > > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house > A/B, > > OR LoB in > > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B then > > full delay is > > caused by Ju. > > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen in > > navamsa also. > > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings > may > > moderate the > > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > > point , aspect of Sa > > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status of > > Ve. > > This all is discussed .You may find it in > archives. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > <%40> > , > > " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > good question. i too think about it specially > when > > jupiter is loE or > > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and > waiting > > for the reply. > > > there is another thing to consider too.. it may > be > > possible that the > > > chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... > > so even when there > > is > > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. > > so if the birth > > time > > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know if > > marriage occured on > > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or > its > > because of the > > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > > i am working on a chart and trying to change the > > time around if i > > can > > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > > navamsa yet. > > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > <%40> > , > > SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of > A > > or B > > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs > > LoA or A > > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM > > 83 W 09 > > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > ______________ > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what > you > > sell. > > > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. > Join 's user panel > and lay it on us. > http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. http://farechase./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Satish, We give equal importance to Rasi and Navamsa and I think I have written a post or a few posts on that. When I say 9th lord is aspected by 6th lord then please check both Rasi and Navamsa. In navamsa Sa is in 9th house and Ve is in 11th house so Sa aspects Ve who is 9th lord. For blessings also we check both Rasi and Navamsa. Even if navamsa lagna and navamsa 9th lords are in 5:9 and placed with good status then still such things can reduce or remove the delay. Same is experienced in Rasi and Navamsa as well. This you can keep in mind. Both are given equal status. Yes, for navamsa, we have to make sure that birth time is accurate as Navamsa can change fast depending on the sign. We also check lagna and 9th lords of Rasi in navamsa as well. Here Me and Ve are i.e 9th and 1st lord or Rasi are in 5:9 in navamsa. So there is a blessing however 6th lord is in 9th house spoiling the 9th house and also the status of 9th lord is spoilt. So here blessings are kinda spoilt. Here Ma is with Ve who’s status is spoilt and then its again in opposition in navamsa i.e. ma and ve are in 1:7 and at the same time Ve is aspected by Sa and Sa aspects a luminary. Thing along with 9 house being spoilt. Actually 7th lord is in 10th so that way status of 7th house is good. Mercury antra is also very strong to give a relationship and its 12th house points are also high . Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Thursday September 27, 2007 3:40 PM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Ash, Thanks. I will find out the facts. I am not sure where 9th lord is apsected by 6th lord ? Shani the 6th lord is in 9th house and shukra is 8th. Yes 6th lord is in 9th. and 9th lord is in 8th i.e. 12th from 9th. Luminary is aspected by saturn. I think the person may have had realtionship in shani-guru fag end i.e. late 1996. Ju delay was over but had not touched the seventh lord but had not touched the seventh house. May have to do that to get rid of the blemish of sun-ve distance. Blessing is in navansha , but between lagna and 9th lord of rashi. Not sure how powerful is this blessing ( Personally I will give precedence to blessing in Rashi) Anyway I will find out more. What gives indication of multiple relationships. 7th lord is in a dual sign and 7th house has budh. Thanks Satish --- Ash <kas wrote: > Dear All, > > I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th > house has only 22 points > compared to 3rd house. This person might have big > dreams but not enough > effort to follow it up. > > Also his relationship with father I see that he > might not derive much > happiness from that or might be living away. > > 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as > well. > > 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected by > 6th lord and 6th lord > is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting spoilt. > Satish, can u say > something about his father? > > Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in > opposition. NK and FK Venus > is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects > this Venus and luminiary. > > > This chart is of a person from west, so here for > marriage 5th house becomes > important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest > all are weak. Again 10th > house SAV is only 22 points. > > Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is > aspecting Me and Ve, 11th > house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to distance > from sun. > > This person might want to enjoy life and might not > want commitment. > > This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. > > What are the facts Satish. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On > Behalf Of SPK > Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM > > Re: Re: Jupiter > Delay > > > > Thanks Ramesh > --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 > <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > > wrote: > > > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house > A/B, > > OR LoB in > > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B then > > full delay is > > caused by Ju. > > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen in > > navamsa also. > > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings > may > > moderate the > > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > > point , aspect of Sa > > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status of > > Ve. > > This all is discussed .You may find it in > archives. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > <%40> > , > > " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > good question. i too think about it specially > when > > jupiter is loE or > > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and > waiting > > for the reply. > > > there is another thing to consider too.. it may > be > > possible that the > > > chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... > > so even when there > > is > > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. > > so if the birth > > time > > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know if > > marriage occured on > > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or > its > > because of the > > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > > i am working on a chart and trying to change the > > time around if i > > can > > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > > navamsa yet. > > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > <%40> > , > > SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of > A > > or B > > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs > > LoA or A > > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM > > 83 W 09 > > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > ______________ > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what > you > > sell. > > > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. > Join 's user panel > and lay it on us. > http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > > ________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. http://farechase./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Ash, 6th lord is LoD for 9th. Will it spoil 9th house? Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Ash Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:15 AM To: RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear All, I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th house has only 22 points compared to 3rd house. This person might have big dreams but not enough effort to follow it up. Also his relationship with father I see that he might not derive much happiness from that or might be living away. 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as well. 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected by 6th lord and 6th lord is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting spoilt. Satish, can u say something about his father? Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in opposition. NK and FK Venus is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects this Venus and luminiary. This chart is of a person from west, so here for marriage 5th house becomes important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest all are weak. Again 10th house SAV is only 22 points. Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is aspecting Me and Ve, 11th house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to distance from sun. This person might want to enjoy life and might not want commitment. This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. What are the facts Satish. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM Re: Re: Jupiter Delay Thanks Ramesh --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house A/B, > OR LoB in > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B then > full delay is > caused by Ju. > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen in > navamsa also. > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings may > moderate the > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > point , aspect of Sa > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status of > Ve. > This all is discussed .You may find it in archives. > Ramesh Mishra > , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > good question. i too think about it specially when > jupiter is loE or > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and waiting > for the reply. > > there is another thing to consider too.. it may be > possible that the > > chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... > so even when there > is > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. > so if the birth > time > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know if > marriage occured on > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or its > because of the > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > i am working on a chart and trying to change the > time around if i > can > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > navamsa yet. > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , > SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of A > or B > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs > LoA or A > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM > 83 W 09 > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > ______________ > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. > > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > > > > ________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release 9/25/2007 8:02 AM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Manu, How many bindus does Sa have? It is also in House D for 12th as B. As per our laws, Sa is more towards 6th lord and what happens when 6th lord goes in House D or E ? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Manu V Batura Thursday September 27, 2007 6:43 PM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Ash, 6th lord is LoD for 9th. Will it spoil 9th house? Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Ash Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:15 AM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear All, I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th house has only 22 points compared to 3rd house. This person might have big dreams but not enough effort to follow it up. Also his relationship with father I see that he might not derive much happiness from that or might be living away. 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as well. 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected by 6th lord and 6th lord is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting spoilt. Satish, can u say something about his father? Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in opposition. NK and FK Venus is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects this Venus and luminiary. This chart is of a person from west, so here for marriage 5th house becomes important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest all are weak. Again 10th house SAV is only 22 points. Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is aspecting Me and Ve, 11th house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to distance from sun. This person might want to enjoy life and might not want commitment. This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. What are the facts Satish. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM Re: Re: Jupiter Delay Thanks Ramesh --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house A/B, > OR LoB in > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B then > full delay is > caused by Ju. > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen in > navamsa also. > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings may > moderate the > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > point , aspect of Sa > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status of > Ve. > This all is discussed .You may find it in archives. > Ramesh Mishra > , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > good question. i too think about it specially when > jupiter is loE or > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and waiting > for the reply. > > there is another thing to consider too.. it may be > possible that the > > chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... > so even when there > is > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. > so if the birth > time > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know if > marriage occured on > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or its > because of the > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > i am working on a chart and trying to change the > time around if i > can > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > navamsa yet. > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , > SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of A > or B > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs > LoA or A > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM > 83 W 09 > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > ______________ > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. > > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > > > > ________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release 9/25/2007 8:02 AM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Ash, When 6th lord goes to D or E it will spoil the result associated with house B. But for 12th as B, 6th is lord of E again. Again here also why should it spoil B? We say that LoD and LoE are always good for B. Are we saying that they can harm if they are lord of 6th also? Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Ash Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:06 PM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Manu, How many bindus does Sa have? It is also in House D for 12th as B. As per our laws, Sa is more towards 6th lord and what happens when 6th lord goes in House D or E ? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Manu V Batura Thursday September 27, 2007 6:43 PM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Ash, 6th lord is LoD for 9th. Will it spoil 9th house? Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Ash Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:15 AM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear All, I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th house has only 22 points compared to 3rd house. This person might have big dreams but not enough effort to follow it up. Also his relationship with father I see that he might not derive much happiness from that or might be living away. 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as well. 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected by 6th lord and 6th lord is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting spoilt. Satish, can u say something about his father? Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in opposition. NK and FK Venus is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects this Venus and luminiary. This chart is of a person from west, so here for marriage 5th house becomes important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest all are weak. Again 10th house SAV is only 22 points. Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is aspecting Me and Ve, 11th house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to distance from sun. This person might want to enjoy life and might not want commitment. This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. What are the facts Satish. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM Re: Re: Jupiter Delay Thanks Ramesh --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house A/B, > OR LoB in > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B then > full delay is > caused by Ju. > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen in > navamsa also. > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings may > moderate the > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > point , aspect of Sa > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status of > Ve. > This all is discussed .You may find it in archives. > Ramesh Mishra > , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > good question. i too think about it specially when > jupiter is loE or > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and waiting > for the reply. > > there is another thing to consider too.. it may be > possible that the > > chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... > so even when there > is > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. > so if the birth > time > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know if > marriage occured on > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or its > because of the > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > i am working on a chart and trying to change the > time around if i > can > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > navamsa yet. > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , > SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of A > or B > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs > LoA or A > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM > 83 W 09 > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > ______________ > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. > > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > > > > ________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 No virus found in this incoming message. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release 9/25/2007 8:02 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Ash, Ignore my previous post…I had put my brain aside. For 12th as B I understand what you said. However, for 9th house, 6th is D. So, no matter how many points it has it ought to be good, isn’t it? Thanks & Regards, Manu Manu V Batura [astro.manu] Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:23 PM To: ' ' RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Ash, When 6th lord goes to D or E it will spoil the result associated with house B. But for 12th as B, 6th is lord of E again. Again here also why should it spoil B? We say that LoD and LoE are always good for B. Are we saying that they can harm if they are lord of 6th also? Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Ash Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:06 PM To: RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Manu, How many bindus does Sa have? It is also in House D for 12th as B. As per our laws, Sa is more towards 6th lord and what happens when 6th lord goes in House D or E ? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Manu V Batura Thursday September 27, 2007 6:43 PM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Ash, 6th lord is LoD for 9th. Will it spoil 9th house? Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Ash Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:15 AM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear All, I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th house has only 22 points compared to 3rd house. This person might have big dreams but not enough effort to follow it up. Also his relationship with father I see that he might not derive much happiness from that or might be living away. 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as well. 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected by 6th lord and 6th lord is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting spoilt. Satish, can u say something about his father? Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in opposition. NK and FK Venus is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects this Venus and luminiary. This chart is of a person from west, so here for marriage 5th house becomes important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest all are weak. Again 10th house SAV is only 22 points. Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is aspecting Me and Ve, 11th house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to distance from sun. This person might want to enjoy life and might not want commitment. This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. What are the facts Satish. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM Re: Re: Jupiter Delay Thanks Ramesh --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house A/B, > OR LoB in > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B then > full delay is > caused by Ju. > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen in > navamsa also. > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings may > moderate the > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > point , aspect of Sa > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status of > Ve. > This all is discussed .You may find it in archives. > Ramesh Mishra > , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > good question. i too think about it specially when > jupiter is loE or > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and waiting > for the reply. > > there is another thing to consider too.. it may be > possible that the > > chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... > so even when there > is > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. > so if the birth > time > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know if > marriage occured on > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or its > because of the > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > i am working on a chart and trying to change the > time around if i > can > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > navamsa yet. > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , > SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of A > or B > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs > LoA or A > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM > 83 W 09 > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > ______________ > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. > > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > > > > ________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 No virus found in this incoming message. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release 9/25/2007 8:02 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dear Ash, Thanks. I found out yesterday that the native is unmarried. May have had relationships, as most do in western countries. One query I have is sun-venus distance. Now when it is more than 43, ve is out of control or spoiled. Do to assign any quality to this?( besides being aspected by Sa).By that I mean what if Ve is in good house like 9th. In this chart it is in 8th house. Can we say qualitatively that Ve gets spoiled even further if it is in so called Dusthaanas ? Thanks Satish --- Ash <kas wrote: > Dear Satish, > > We give equal importance to Rasi and Navamsa and I > think I have written a > post or a few posts on that. > > When I say 9th lord is aspected by 6th lord then > please check both Rasi and > Navamsa. In navamsa Sa is in 9th house and Ve is in > 11th house so Sa > aspects Ve who is 9th lord. > > For blessings also we check both Rasi and Navamsa. > Even if navamsa lagna > and navamsa 9th lords are in 5:9 and placed with > good status then still such > things can reduce or remove the delay. Same is > experienced in Rasi and > Navamsa as well. This you can keep in mind. Both > are given equal status. > Yes, for navamsa, we have to make sure that birth > time is accurate as > Navamsa can change fast depending on the sign. We > also check lagna and 9th > lords of Rasi in navamsa as well. > > Here Me and Ve are i.e 9th and 1st lord or Rasi > are in 5:9 in navamsa. So > there is a blessing however 6th lord is in 9th house > spoiling the 9th house > and also the status of 9th lord is spoilt. So here > blessings are kinda > spoilt. > > > > Here Ma is with Ve who's status is spoilt and then > its again in opposition > in navamsa i.e. ma and ve are in 1:7 and at the same > time Ve is aspected by > Sa and Sa aspects a luminary. Thing along with 9 > house being spoilt. > > > > Actually 7th lord is in 10th so that way status of > 7th house is good. > > Mercury antra is also very strong to give a > relationship and its 12th house > points are also high . > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On > Behalf Of SPK > Thursday September 27, 2007 3:40 PM > > RE: Re: Jupiter > Delay > > > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks. I will find out the facts. I am not sure > where > 9th lord is apsected by 6th lord ? Shani the 6th > lord > is in 9th house and shukra is 8th. Yes 6th lord is > in > 9th. and 9th lord is in 8th i.e. 12th from 9th. > Luminary is aspected by saturn. > > I think the person may have had realtionship in > shani-guru fag end i.e. late 1996. Ju delay was over > but had not touched the seventh lord but had not > touched the seventh house. May have to do that to > get > rid of the blemish of sun-ve distance. Blessing is > in > navansha , but between lagna and 9th lord of rashi. > Not sure how powerful is this blessing ( Personally > I > will give precedence to blessing in Rashi) > > Anyway I will find out more. > > What gives indication of multiple relationships. 7th > lord is in a dual sign and 7th house has budh. > > Thanks > > Satish > > --- Ash <kas <kas%40ashtro.ca> > > wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th > > house has only 22 points > > compared to 3rd house. This person might have big > > dreams but not enough > > effort to follow it up. > > > > Also his relationship with father I see that he > > might not derive much > > happiness from that or might be living away. > > > > 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as > > well. > > > > 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected > by > > 6th lord and 6th lord > > is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting > spoilt. > > Satish, can u say > > something about his father? > > > > Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in > > opposition. NK and FK Venus > > is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects > > this Venus and luminiary. > > > > > > This chart is of a person from west, so here for > > marriage 5th house becomes > > important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest > > all are weak. Again 10th > > house SAV is only 22 points. > > > > Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is > > aspecting Me and Ve, 11th > > house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to > distance > > from sun. > > > > This person might want to enjoy life and might not > > want commitment. > > > > This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. > > > > What are the facts Satish. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > [ > <%40> > ] On > > Behalf Of SPK > > Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM > > > <%40> > > Re: Re: > Jupiter > > Delay > > > > > > > > Thanks Ramesh > > --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 > <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > > <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > > > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house > > A/B, > > > OR LoB in > > > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B > then > > > full delay is > > > caused by Ju. > > > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen > in > > > navamsa also. > > > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > > > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > > > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings > > may > > > moderate the > > > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > > > point , aspect of Sa > > > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status > of > > > Ve. > > > This all is discussed .You may find it in > > archives. > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on TV. 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dear Manu, The basics. Planet with less than 4 bindus are not good for the house they are in. Now see the cumulative effect. 9th is root karak for 7th and 9th is House D for 12th. Sa is LoE as well for 12th but its more towards 6th and u know all these computations. Now, the point u have is that LoD is in House B=9 and its in House D for 12th as B and Sa is LoE for 12 so in such case it will be malefic for 9th due to virtue of being with 2 points, but it will be eager. Sa is also 6th lord and more towards 6th. So the overall effect is that it will reduce comforts, yes it may give timing of event being LoD and LoE but it might be temporary of nature. Now, that is theory portion and now next step is to verify with facts. That will confirm our life of thought if its on correct track or not. Then if we are right, confidence grows and if we are wrong then we should not forget that and study it deeper and then add that to our own personal experience bank. J I hope u get what I am trying to say J Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Manu V Batura Friday September 28, 2007 12:23 AM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Ash, When 6th lord goes to D or E it will spoil the result associated with house B. But for 12th as B, 6th is lord of E again. Again here also why should it spoil B? We say that LoD and LoE are always good for B. Are we saying that they can harm if they are lord of 6th also? Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Ash Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:06 PM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Manu, How many bindus does Sa have? It is also in House D for 12th as B. As per our laws, Sa is more towards 6th lord and what happens when 6th lord goes in House D or E ? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Manu V Batura Thursday September 27, 2007 6:43 PM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Ash, 6th lord is LoD for 9th. Will it spoil 9th house? Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Ash Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:15 AM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear All, I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th house has only 22 points compared to 3rd house. This person might have big dreams but not enough effort to follow it up. Also his relationship with father I see that he might not derive much happiness from that or might be living away. 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as well. 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected by 6th lord and 6th lord is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting spoilt. Satish, can u say something about his father? Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in opposition. NK and FK Venus is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects this Venus and luminiary. This chart is of a person from west, so here for marriage 5th house becomes important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest all are weak. Again 10th house SAV is only 22 points. Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is aspecting Me and Ve, 11th house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to distance from sun. This person might want to enjoy life and might not want commitment. This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. What are the facts Satish. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM Re: Re: Jupiter Delay Thanks Ramesh --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house A/B, > OR LoB in > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B then > full delay is > caused by Ju. > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen in > navamsa also. > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings may > moderate the > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > point , aspect of Sa > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status of > Ve. > This all is discussed .You may find it in archives. > Ramesh Mishra > , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > good question. i too think about it specially when > jupiter is loE or > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and waiting > for the reply. > > there is another thing to consider too.. it may be > possible that the > > chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... > so even when there > is > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. > so if the birth > time > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know if > marriage occured on > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or its > because of the > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > i am working on a chart and trying to change the > time around if i > can > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > navamsa yet. > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , > SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of A > or B > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs > LoA or A > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM > 83 W 09 > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > ______________ > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. > > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > > > > ________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release 9/25/2007 8:02 AM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dear Manu, 7th house is that of accident and also of marriage. There is a difference. Say LoE is in House D with less bindus then it might mean something different like it might give or be eager to give 7th house results due to being LoE and in House D so even more eager and if its with less than 4 bindus then it in boss house and if in WS also if power is less for 7th then ? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Manu V Batura Friday September 28, 2007 12:28 AM 'Manu V Batura'; RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Ash, Ignore my previous post…I had put my brain aside. For 12th as B I understand what you said. However, for 9th house, 6th is D. So, no matter how many points it has it ought to be good, isn’t it? Thanks & Regards, Manu Manu V Batura [astro.manu] Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:23 PM ' ' RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Ash, When 6th lord goes to D or E it will spoil the result associated with house B. But for 12th as B, 6th is lord of E again. Again here also why should it spoil B? We say that LoD and LoE are always good for B. Are we saying that they can harm if they are lord of 6th also? Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Ash Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:06 PM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Manu, How many bindus does Sa have? It is also in House D for 12th as B. As per our laws, Sa is more towards 6th lord and what happens when 6th lord goes in House D or E ? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Manu V Batura Thursday September 27, 2007 6:43 PM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Ash, 6th lord is LoD for 9th. Will it spoil 9th house? Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Ash Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:15 AM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear All, I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th house has only 22 points compared to 3rd house. This person might have big dreams but not enough effort to follow it up. Also his relationship with father I see that he might not derive much happiness from that or might be living away. 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as well. 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected by 6th lord and 6th lord is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting spoilt. Satish, can u say something about his father? Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in opposition. NK and FK Venus is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects this Venus and luminiary. This chart is of a person from west, so here for marriage 5th house becomes important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest all are weak. Again 10th house SAV is only 22 points. Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is aspecting Me and Ve, 11th house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to distance from sun. This person might want to enjoy life and might not want commitment. This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. What are the facts Satish. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM Re: Re: Jupiter Delay Thanks Ramesh --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house A/B, > OR LoB in > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B then > full delay is > caused by Ju. > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen in > navamsa also. > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings may > moderate the > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > point , aspect of Sa > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status of > Ve. > This all is discussed .You may find it in archives. > Ramesh Mishra > , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > good question. i too think about it specially when > jupiter is loE or > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and waiting > for the reply. > > there is another thing to consider too.. it may be > possible that the > > chart might be having blessing in the navamsa... > so even when there > is > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur early. > so if the birth > time > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know if > marriage occured on > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or its > because of the > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > i am working on a chart and trying to change the > time around if i > can > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > navamsa yet. > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > , > SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord of A > or B > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter apsetcs > LoA or A > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 PM > 83 W 09 > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > ______________ > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. > > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > > > > ________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release 9/25/2007 8:02 AM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release 9/27/2007 5:00 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dear Satish, Venus is a very sensitive planet and this law is given by Krushnaji. You will invariably notice this in charts that have very delayed marriage or multiple marriages or relationships. Venus when more than 43deg20 means its out of control from Sun. Here its qualities are enhanced. Now, if this Venus is aspected by Saturn then its spoilt further as Saturn enhances the quality of Venus. Now if Sa aspects the luminaries then its totally spoilt. Now if this Venus is in krittika then again its worst or in nak of sun or in aadra, mula or jayeshta. Now Venus being 9th lord as per your example is functional property. It means that For Virgo lagna It become both FK and NK and if its in aries then its in 12th from 9th means its loosing status as 9th lord and it also aspects House A. So itself cant give result. Such a spoilt venus is with mars and aspected by Saturn then its bad. Sometimes, such things also lead to homosexuality. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Friday September 28, 2007 8:32 AM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Ash, Thanks. I found out yesterday that the native is unmarried. May have had relationships, as most do in western countries. One query I have is sun-venus distance. Now when it is more than 43, ve is out of control or spoiled. Do to assign any quality to this?( besides being aspected by Sa).By that I mean what if Ve is in good house like 9th. In this chart it is in 8th house. Can we say qualitatively that Ve gets spoiled even further if it is in so called Dusthaanas ? Thanks Satish --- Ash <kas wrote: > Dear Satish, > > We give equal importance to Rasi and Navamsa and I > think I have written a > post or a few posts on that. > > When I say 9th lord is aspected by 6th lord then > please check both Rasi and > Navamsa. In navamsa Sa is in 9th house and Ve is in > 11th house so Sa > aspects Ve who is 9th lord. > > For blessings also we check both Rasi and Navamsa. > Even if navamsa lagna > and navamsa 9th lords are in 5:9 and placed with > good status then still such > things can reduce or remove the delay. Same is > experienced in Rasi and > Navamsa as well. This you can keep in mind. Both > are given equal status. > Yes, for navamsa, we have to make sure that birth > time is accurate as > Navamsa can change fast depending on the sign. We > also check lagna and 9th > lords of Rasi in navamsa as well. > > Here Me and Ve are i.e 9th and 1st lord or Rasi > are in 5:9 in navamsa. So > there is a blessing however 6th lord is in 9th house > spoiling the 9th house > and also the status of 9th lord is spoilt. So here > blessings are kinda > spoilt. > > > > Here Ma is with Ve who's status is spoilt and then > its again in opposition > in navamsa i.e. ma and ve are in 1:7 and at the same > time Ve is aspected by > Sa and Sa aspects a luminary. Thing along with 9 > house being spoilt. > > > > Actually 7th lord is in 10th so that way status of > 7th house is good. > > Mercury antra is also very strong to give a > relationship and its 12th house > points are also high . > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On > Behalf Of SPK > Thursday September 27, 2007 3:40 PM > > RE: Re: Jupiter > Delay > > > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks. I will find out the facts. I am not sure > where > 9th lord is apsected by 6th lord ? Shani the 6th > lord > is in 9th house and shukra is 8th. Yes 6th lord is > in > 9th. and 9th lord is in 8th i.e. 12th from 9th. > Luminary is aspected by saturn. > > I think the person may have had realtionship in > shani-guru fag end i.e. late 1996. Ju delay was over > but had not touched the seventh lord but had not > touched the seventh house. May have to do that to > get > rid of the blemish of sun-ve distance. Blessing is > in > navansha , but between lagna and 9th lord of rashi. > Not sure how powerful is this blessing ( Personally > I > will give precedence to blessing in Rashi) > > Anyway I will find out more. > > What gives indication of multiple relationships. 7th > lord is in a dual sign and 7th house has budh. > > Thanks > > Satish > > --- Ash <kas <kas%40ashtro.ca> > > wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th > > house has only 22 points > > compared to 3rd house. This person might have big > > dreams but not enough > > effort to follow it up. > > > > Also his relationship with father I see that he > > might not derive much > > happiness from that or might be living away. > > > > 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as > > well. > > > > 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected > by > > 6th lord and 6th lord > > is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting > spoilt. > > Satish, can u say > > something about his father? > > > > Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in > > opposition. NK and FK Venus > > is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects > > this Venus and luminiary. > > > > > > This chart is of a person from west, so here for > > marriage 5th house becomes > > important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest > > all are weak. Again 10th > > house SAV is only 22 points. > > > > Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is > > aspecting Me and Ve, 11th > > house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to > distance > > from sun. > > > > This person might want to enjoy life and might not > > want commitment. > > > > This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. > > > > What are the facts Satish. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > [ > <%40> > ] On > > Behalf Of SPK > > Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM > > > <%40> > > Re: Re: > Jupiter > > Delay > > > > > > > > Thanks Ramesh > > --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 > <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > > <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > > > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house > > A/B, > > > OR LoB in > > > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B > then > > > full delay is > > > caused by Ju. > > > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen > in > > > navamsa also. > > > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > > > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > > > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings > > may > > > moderate the > > > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > > > point , aspect of Sa > > > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status > of > > > Ve. > > > This all is discussed .You may find it in > > archives. > === message truncated === ________ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on TV. 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 I forgot to add. Now assume as per my previous mail , if such a spoilt venus is in 12th house then its qualities are further enhanced. As per KAS planets in 12th house the house ruled by them gets enhanced. It think its also given in classics that Ve in 12th might mean person indulges in wine, women and song or might do drugs etc. So this is as per this fact that planet in 12th then properties of that gets enhanced. If Mars is there in 12th as well with Venus then even more if Sa aspects a spoilt venus then effects are even further enhanced, if venus is in nak of krittka etc then even worst. If Venus is in 8th house then it aspects 2nd house so itself cant give result. IF its NK and FK and its spoilt then its property is spoilt, so if status of Karaks are spoilt then quality of House B is affected. IT cant give good happiness. Venus in 6th house means its properties are spoilt by being in Black hole. So that way this gets covered. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Friday September 28, 2007 8:32 AM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Ash, Thanks. I found out yesterday that the native is unmarried. May have had relationships, as most do in western countries. One query I have is sun-venus distance. Now when it is more than 43, ve is out of control or spoiled. Do to assign any quality to this?( besides being aspected by Sa).By that I mean what if Ve is in good house like 9th. In this chart it is in 8th house. Can we say qualitatively that Ve gets spoiled even further if it is in so called Dusthaanas ? Thanks Satish --- Ash <kas wrote: > Dear Satish, > > We give equal importance to Rasi and Navamsa and I > think I have written a > post or a few posts on that. > > When I say 9th lord is aspected by 6th lord then > please check both Rasi and > Navamsa. In navamsa Sa is in 9th house and Ve is in > 11th house so Sa > aspects Ve who is 9th lord. > > For blessings also we check both Rasi and Navamsa. > Even if navamsa lagna > and navamsa 9th lords are in 5:9 and placed with > good status then still such > things can reduce or remove the delay. Same is > experienced in Rasi and > Navamsa as well. This you can keep in mind. Both > are given equal status. > Yes, for navamsa, we have to make sure that birth > time is accurate as > Navamsa can change fast depending on the sign. We > also check lagna and 9th > lords of Rasi in navamsa as well. > > Here Me and Ve are i.e 9th and 1st lord or Rasi > are in 5:9 in navamsa. So > there is a blessing however 6th lord is in 9th house > spoiling the 9th house > and also the status of 9th lord is spoilt. So here > blessings are kinda > spoilt. > > > > Here Ma is with Ve who's status is spoilt and then > its again in opposition > in navamsa i.e. ma and ve are in 1:7 and at the same > time Ve is aspected by > Sa and Sa aspects a luminary. Thing along with 9 > house being spoilt. > > > > Actually 7th lord is in 10th so that way status of > 7th house is good. > > Mercury antra is also very strong to give a > relationship and its 12th house > points are also high . > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On > Behalf Of SPK > Thursday September 27, 2007 3:40 PM > > RE: Re: Jupiter > Delay > > > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks. I will find out the facts. I am not sure > where > 9th lord is apsected by 6th lord ? Shani the 6th > lord > is in 9th house and shukra is 8th. Yes 6th lord is > in > 9th. and 9th lord is in 8th i.e. 12th from 9th. > Luminary is aspected by saturn. > > I think the person may have had realtionship in > shani-guru fag end i.e. late 1996. Ju delay was over > but had not touched the seventh lord but had not > touched the seventh house. May have to do that to > get > rid of the blemish of sun-ve distance. Blessing is > in > navansha , but between lagna and 9th lord of rashi. > Not sure how powerful is this blessing ( Personally > I > will give precedence to blessing in Rashi) > > Anyway I will find out more. > > What gives indication of multiple relationships. 7th > lord is in a dual sign and 7th house has budh. > > Thanks > > Satish > > --- Ash <kas <kas%40ashtro.ca> > > wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th > > house has only 22 points > > compared to 3rd house. This person might have big > > dreams but not enough > > effort to follow it up. > > > > Also his relationship with father I see that he > > might not derive much > > happiness from that or might be living away. > > > > 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as > > well. > > > > 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected > by > > 6th lord and 6th lord > > is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting > spoilt. > > Satish, can u say > > something about his father? > > > > Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in > > opposition. NK and FK Venus > > is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects > > this Venus and luminiary. > > > > > > This chart is of a person from west, so here for > > marriage 5th house becomes > > important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest > > all are weak. Again 10th > > house SAV is only 22 points. > > > > Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is > > aspecting Me and Ve, 11th > > house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to > distance > > from sun. > > > > This person might want to enjoy life and might not > > want commitment. > > > > This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. > > > > What are the facts Satish. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > [ > <%40> > ] On > > Behalf Of SPK > > Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM > > > <%40> > > Re: Re: > Jupiter > > Delay > > > > > > > > Thanks Ramesh > > --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 > <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > > <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > > > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house > > A/B, > > > OR LoB in > > > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B > then > > > full delay is > > > caused by Ju. > > > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen > in > > > navamsa also. > > > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > > > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > > > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings > > may > > > moderate the > > > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > > > point , aspect of Sa > > > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status > of > > > Ve. > > > This all is discussed .You may find it in > > archives. > === message truncated === ________ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on TV. 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Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Dear Satish, If possible can you find out about the native’s father and his relationship with him. Since there have been some emails between Manu and me and Harjeet, it will be good learning. Thanks. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Friday September 28, 2007 8:32 AM RE: Re: Jupiter Delay Dear Ash, Thanks. I found out yesterday that the native is unmarried. May have had relationships, as most do in western countries. One query I have is sun-venus distance. Now when it is more than 43, ve is out of control or spoiled. Do to assign any quality to this?( besides being aspected by Sa).By that I mean what if Ve is in good house like 9th. In this chart it is in 8th house. Can we say qualitatively that Ve gets spoiled even further if it is in so called Dusthaanas ? Thanks Satish --- Ash <kas wrote: > Dear Satish, > > We give equal importance to Rasi and Navamsa and I > think I have written a > post or a few posts on that. > > When I say 9th lord is aspected by 6th lord then > please check both Rasi and > Navamsa. In navamsa Sa is in 9th house and Ve is in > 11th house so Sa > aspects Ve who is 9th lord. > > For blessings also we check both Rasi and Navamsa. > Even if navamsa lagna > and navamsa 9th lords are in 5:9 and placed with > good status then still such > things can reduce or remove the delay. Same is > experienced in Rasi and > Navamsa as well. This you can keep in mind. Both > are given equal status. > Yes, for navamsa, we have to make sure that birth > time is accurate as > Navamsa can change fast depending on the sign. We > also check lagna and 9th > lords of Rasi in navamsa as well. > > Here Me and Ve are i.e 9th and 1st lord or Rasi > are in 5:9 in navamsa. So > there is a blessing however 6th lord is in 9th house > spoiling the 9th house > and also the status of 9th lord is spoilt. So here > blessings are kinda > spoilt. > > > > Here Ma is with Ve who's status is spoilt and then > its again in opposition > in navamsa i.e. ma and ve are in 1:7 and at the same > time Ve is aspected by > Sa and Sa aspects a luminary. Thing along with 9 > house being spoilt. > > > > Actually 7th lord is in 10th so that way status of > 7th house is good. > > Mercury antra is also very strong to give a > relationship and its 12th house > points are also high . > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On > Behalf Of SPK > Thursday September 27, 2007 3:40 PM > > RE: Re: Jupiter > Delay > > > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks. I will find out the facts. I am not sure > where > 9th lord is apsected by 6th lord ? Shani the 6th > lord > is in 9th house and shukra is 8th. Yes 6th lord is > in > 9th. and 9th lord is in 8th i.e. 12th from 9th. > Luminary is aspected by saturn. > > I think the person may have had realtionship in > shani-guru fag end i.e. late 1996. Ju delay was over > but had not touched the seventh lord but had not > touched the seventh house. May have to do that to > get > rid of the blemish of sun-ve distance. Blessing is > in > navansha , but between lagna and 9th lord of rashi. > Not sure how powerful is this blessing ( Personally > I > will give precedence to blessing in Rashi) > > Anyway I will find out more. > > What gives indication of multiple relationships. 7th > lord is in a dual sign and 7th house has budh. > > Thanks > > Satish > > --- Ash <kas <kas%40ashtro.ca> > > wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th > > house has only 22 points > > compared to 3rd house. This person might have big > > dreams but not enough > > effort to follow it up. > > > > Also his relationship with father I see that he > > might not derive much > > happiness from that or might be living away. > > > > 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as > > well. > > > > 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected > by > > 6th lord and 6th lord > > is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting > spoilt. > > Satish, can u say > > something about his father? > > > > Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in > > opposition. NK and FK Venus > > is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects > > this Venus and luminiary. > > > > > > This chart is of a person from west, so here for > > marriage 5th house becomes > > important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest > > all are weak. Again 10th > > house SAV is only 22 points. > > > > Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is > > aspecting Me and Ve, 11th > > house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to > distance > > from sun. > > > > This person might want to enjoy life and might not > > want commitment. > > > > This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. > > > > What are the facts Satish. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > [ > <%40> > ] On > > Behalf Of SPK > > Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM > > > <%40> > > Re: Re: > Jupiter > > Delay > > > > > > > > Thanks Ramesh > > --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 > <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > > <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > > > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house > > A/B, > > > OR LoB in > > > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B > then > > > full delay is > > > caused by Ju. > > > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen > in > > > navamsa also. > > > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > > > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > > > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings > > may > > > moderate the > > > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > > > point , aspect of Sa > > > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status > of > > > Ve. > > > This all is discussed .You may find it in > > archives. > === message truncated === ________ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on TV. 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Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Ash, Harjeet, and all Here is more info about the chat under discussion. The native is unmarried, lawyer. Yes he lives away from father but had overall good relationship with father and does not have strong difference of opinion etc. Hope this helps. Will the person get married ? Thanks Satish P.S. Ash, have a good sabbatical we will miis you here on the list --- SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Thanks. I will find out the facts. I am not sure > where > 9th lord is apsected by 6th lord ? Shani the 6th > lord > is in 9th house and shukra is 8th. Yes 6th lord is > in > 9th. and 9th lord is in 8th i.e. 12th from 9th. > Luminary is aspected by saturn. > > I think the person may have had realtionship in > shani-guru fag end i.e. late 1996. Ju delay was over > but had not touched the seventh lord but had not > touched the seventh house. May have to do that to > get > rid of the blemish of sun-ve distance. Blessing is > in > navansha , but between lagna and 9th lord of rashi. > Not sure how powerful is this blessing ( Personally > I > will give precedence to blessing in Rashi) > > Anyway I will find out more. > > What gives indication of multiple relationships. 7th > lord is in a dual sign and 7th house has budh. > > Thanks > > Satish > > > --- Ash <kas wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th > > house has only 22 points > > compared to 3rd house. This person might have big > > dreams but not enough > > effort to follow it up. > > > > Also his relationship with father I see that he > > might not derive much > > happiness from that or might be living away. > > > > 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as > > well. > > > > 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected > by > > 6th lord and 6th lord > > is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting > spoilt. > > Satish, can u say > > something about his father? > > > > Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in > > opposition. NK and FK Venus > > is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects > > this Venus and luminiary. > > > > > > This chart is of a person from west, so here for > > marriage 5th house becomes > > important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest > > all are weak. Again 10th > > house SAV is only 22 points. > > > > Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is > > aspecting Me and Ve, 11th > > house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to > distance > > from sun. > > > > This person might want to enjoy life and might not > > want commitment. > > > > This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. > > > > What are the facts Satish. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > On > > Behalf Of SPK > > Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM > > > > Re: Re: > Jupiter > > Delay > > > > > > > > Thanks Ramesh > > --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 > > <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > > > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house > > A/B, > > > OR LoB in > > > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B > then > > > full delay is > > > caused by Ju. > > > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen > in > > > navamsa also. > > > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > > > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > > > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings > > may > > > moderate the > > > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > > > point , aspect of Sa > > > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status > of > > > Ve. > > > This all is discussed .You may find it in > > archives. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > <%40> > > , > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > good question. i too think about it specially > > when > > > jupiter is loE or > > > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and > > waiting > > > for the reply. > > > > there is another thing to consider too.. it > may > > be > > > possible that the > > > > chart might be having blessing in the > navamsa... > > > so even when there > > > is > > > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur > early. > > > so if the birth > > > time > > > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know > if > > > marriage occured on > > > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or > > its > > > because of the > > > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > > > i am working on a chart and trying to change > the > > > time around if i > > > can > > > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > > > navamsa yet. > > > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > --- In > > > > <%40> > > , > > > SPK > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord > of > > A > > > or B > > > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter > apsetcs > > > LoA or A > > > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 > PM > > > 83 W 09 > > > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Autos. http://autos./index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Satish, taking birth time to be correct. there is delay only by jupiter. saturn is lord of 6th house aspects house C. lord of E, i.e. sun in rasi. lord of B i.e. venus in navamsa. again lord of E is in 6th house in rasi. i think matters related to 12th house are spoiled here. mars and venus are together in rasi and aspect each other in navamsa. venus is 43 degree apart from sun and sun is aspected by saturn. so you can judge the nature of the person. Ashji pointed out that too. since there is a blessing in the chart... so i am wondering rahu which is samdhari to moon didnt give result ? moon is very strong for 5th 7th and 12th house... i think the native might be in some serious relationship now as rahu antra is going on.. and might marry in rahu antra or good chances in guru antra to which follows as its loD and B as well and situated in 4th house. i think the native might marry during rahu or jupiter antra. thanks/regards harjeet , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, Harjeet, and all > > Here is more info about the chat under discussion. The > native is unmarried, lawyer. Yes he lives away from > father but had overall good relationship with father > and does not have strong difference of opinion etc. > Hope this helps. Will the person get married ? > > Thanks > > Satish > > P.S. Ash, have a good sabbatical we will miis you here > on the list > --- SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Thanks. I will find out the facts. I am not sure > > where > > 9th lord is apsected by 6th lord ? Shani the 6th > > lord > > is in 9th house and shukra is 8th. Yes 6th lord is > > in > > 9th. and 9th lord is in 8th i.e. 12th from 9th. > > Luminary is aspected by saturn. > > > > I think the person may have had realtionship in > > shani-guru fag end i.e. late 1996. Ju delay was over > > but had not touched the seventh lord but had not > > touched the seventh house. May have to do that to > > get > > rid of the blemish of sun-ve distance. Blessing is > > in > > navansha , but between lagna and 9th lord of rashi. > > Not sure how powerful is this blessing ( Personally > > I > > will give precedence to blessing in Rashi) > > > > Anyway I will find out more. > > > > What gives indication of multiple relationships. 7th > > lord is in a dual sign and 7th house has budh. > > > > Thanks > > > > Satish > > > > > > --- Ash <kas wrote: > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th > > > house has only 22 points > > > compared to 3rd house. This person might have big > > > dreams but not enough > > > effort to follow it up. > > > > > > Also his relationship with father I see that he > > > might not derive much > > > happiness from that or might be living away. > > > > > > 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as > > > well. > > > > > > 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected > > by > > > 6th lord and 6th lord > > > is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting > > spoilt. > > > Satish, can u say > > > something about his father? > > > > > > Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in > > > opposition. NK and FK Venus > > > is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects > > > this Venus and luminiary. > > > > > > > > > This chart is of a person from west, so here for > > > marriage 5th house becomes > > > important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest > > > all are weak. Again 10th > > > house SAV is only 22 points. > > > > > > Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is > > > aspecting Me and Ve, 11th > > > house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to > > distance > > > from sun. > > > > > > This person might want to enjoy life and might not > > > want commitment. > > > > > > This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. > > > > > > What are the facts Satish. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On > > > Behalf Of SPK > > > Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM > > > > > > Re: Re: > > Jupiter > > > Delay > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ramesh > > > --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 > > > <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > > > > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house > > > A/B, > > > > OR LoB in > > > > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B > > then > > > > full delay is > > > > caused by Ju. > > > > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen > > in > > > > navamsa also. > > > > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > > > > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > > > > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings > > > may > > > > moderate the > > > > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > > > > point , aspect of Sa > > > > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status > > of > > > > Ve. > > > > This all is discussed .You may find it in > > > archives. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > , > > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > good question. i too think about it specially > > > when > > > > jupiter is loE or > > > > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and > > > waiting > > > > for the reply. > > > > > there is another thing to consider too.. it > > may > > > be > > > > possible that the > > > > > chart might be having blessing in the > > navamsa... > > > > so even when there > > > > is > > > > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur > > early. > > > > so if the birth > > > > time > > > > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know > > if > > > > marriage occured on > > > > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or > > > its > > > > because of the > > > > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > > > > i am working on a chart and trying to change > > the > > > > time around if i > > > > can > > > > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > > > > navamsa yet. > > > > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > <%40> > > > , > > > > SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord > > of > > > A > > > > or B > > > > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter > > apsetcs > > > > LoA or A > > > > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 > > PM > > > > 83 W 09 > > > > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Autos. > http://autos./index.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Satish, even if the native isnt in a relationship... he would be having the urge pretty strong as rahu is samdhari to moon is very strong for 5,7,12th house. your feedback would help in learning. thanks/regards harjeet , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, Harjeet, and all > > Here is more info about the chat under discussion. The > native is unmarried, lawyer. Yes he lives away from > father but had overall good relationship with father > and does not have strong difference of opinion etc. > Hope this helps. Will the person get married ? > > Thanks > > Satish > > P.S. Ash, have a good sabbatical we will miis you here > on the list > --- SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Thanks. I will find out the facts. I am not sure > > where > > 9th lord is apsected by 6th lord ? Shani the 6th > > lord > > is in 9th house and shukra is 8th. Yes 6th lord is > > in > > 9th. and 9th lord is in 8th i.e. 12th from 9th. > > Luminary is aspected by saturn. > > > > I think the person may have had realtionship in > > shani-guru fag end i.e. late 1996. Ju delay was over > > but had not touched the seventh lord but had not > > touched the seventh house. May have to do that to > > get > > rid of the blemish of sun-ve distance. Blessing is > > in > > navansha , but between lagna and 9th lord of rashi. > > Not sure how powerful is this blessing ( Personally > > I > > will give precedence to blessing in Rashi) > > > > Anyway I will find out more. > > > > What gives indication of multiple relationships. 7th > > lord is in a dual sign and 7th house has budh. > > > > Thanks > > > > Satish > > > > > > --- Ash <kas wrote: > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I went though this char quickly. Here see 10th > > > house has only 22 points > > > compared to 3rd house. This person might have big > > > dreams but not enough > > > effort to follow it up. > > > > > > Also his relationship with father I see that he > > > might not derive much > > > happiness from that or might be living away. > > > > > > 6th lord is in 9th house and there is blessing as > > > well. > > > > > > 9th lord is in 12th house form B and its aspected > > by > > > 6th lord and 6th lord > > > is in 9th house so here 9th house is getting > > spoilt. > > > Satish, can u say > > > something about his father? > > > > > > Now Ve is with Mars and in navamsa they are in > > > opposition. NK and FK Venus > > > is spoilt due to distance from Sun and Sa aspects > > > this Venus and luminiary. > > > > > > > > > This chart is of a person from west, so here for > > > marriage 5th house becomes > > > important i.e. love and here except Me and Mo rest > > > all are weak. Again 10th > > > house SAV is only 22 points. > > > > > > Ve nk and fk opposes 2nd house. 6th lord is > > > aspecting Me and Ve, 11th > > > house, karaks and karaks are spoilt due to > > distance > > > from sun. > > > > > > This person might want to enjoy life and might not > > > want commitment. > > > > > > This chart is of multiple relation or marriages. > > > > > > What are the facts Satish. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On > > > Behalf Of SPK > > > Thursday September 27, 2007 12:50 PM > > > > > > Re: Re: > > Jupiter > > > Delay > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ramesh > > > --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 > > > <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Satish and Harjeet, > > > > Yes, when Ju is either LoB/LoA or aspects house > > > A/B, > > > > OR LoB in > > > > addition to house A or LoA for house 7th as B > > then > > > > full delay is > > > > caused by Ju. > > > > The aspect of Ju on LoA and LoB should be seen > > in > > > > navamsa also. > > > > House C or LoC is not considered for Ju delay. > > > > In the given chart Ju is causing delay. > > > > Blessings are present in navamsa.This blessings > > > may > > > > moderate the > > > > delay depending upon other factors such as zero > > > > point , aspect of Sa > > > > on luminaries, Su to Ve distance and the status > > of > > > > Ve. > > > > This all is discussed .You may find it in > > > archives. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > , > > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > good question. i too think about it specially > > > when > > > > jupiter is loE or > > > > > LoD and asked to Ashji about the same and > > > waiting > > > > for the reply. > > > > > there is another thing to consider too.. it > > may > > > be > > > > possible that the > > > > > chart might be having blessing in the > > navamsa... > > > > so even when there > > > > is > > > > > delay by jupiter the marriage would occur > > early. > > > > so if the birth > > > > time > > > > > is not precise, thats very difficult to know > > if > > > > marriage occured on > > > > > time because jupiter being lord of B A D E or > > > its > > > > because of the > > > > > blessing formed in navamsa. > > > > > i am working on a chart and trying to change > > the > > > > time around if i > > > > can > > > > > find blessing.. but couldnt find blessing in > > > > navamsa yet. > > > > > may be Ashji can guide us on that. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > <%40> > > > , > > > > SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > > > > > Does Jupiter cause delay if he becomes lord > > of > > > A > > > > or B > > > > > > as one of the houses. e.g. If Jupiter > > apsetcs > > > > LoA or A > > > > > > and is lord of B can he cause delay ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am looking at a chart 5 march 1972. 8:44 > > PM > > > > 83 W 09 > > > > > > 42 N 29 EST +5.00. Lagna should be Virgo. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Autos. > http://autos./index.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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