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Dear Ash,and the list

 

Going through the lesson on Jupiter delay. I noticed

that Jupiter will cause delay if he aspects say house

B and is lord of A as long as he has <4 points in

House A in his BAV.

 

Now the question is what about shani? If shani becomes

lord of a/b or C and the other condiations of saturn

delay are met for the other two houses. Does saturn

also has to have < 4 points in the house he owns to

qualify for full delay ? Many times saturn does have <

4 points anyway and it just happens by default. But

what if saturn has > 4 points for house A/B or C ?

 

Thanks

 

Satish

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Satish,

 

No, for Saturn

the rules are a bit different from Jupiter. Sa is a natural malefic whereas Ju

is a natural benefic.

Saturn’s

natural quality is to delay and Jupiter will delay under specific conditions

only. So the place where Sa is irrespective of the bindus it has, it affects

the house and it is not the case with Jupiter.

If Saturn

owns ABorC house then that house is affected for Saturn, for Jupiter if it owns

then as per the lesson, the SAV must be less than 4 means means its malefic for

the house. So here we are finding if Ju is malefic for the house it owns

whereas Saturn is natural malefic and delay causing planet so irrespective of

the fact that if Sa owns house ABC and irrespective of the bindus it has in

that house, it will affect the house.

I think

it will be clear now.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of SPK

Thursday October 25, 2007

8:22 AM

 

Subject:

Question: Shani Delay

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Ash,and the list

 

Going through the lesson on Jupiter delay. I noticed

that Jupiter will cause delay if he aspects say house

B and is lord of A as long as he has <4 points in

House A in his BAV.

 

Now the question is what about shani? If shani becomes

lord of a/b or C and the other condiations of saturn

delay are met for the other two houses. Does saturn

also has to have < 4 points in the house he owns to

qualify for full delay ? Many times saturn does have <

4 points anyway and it just happens by default. But

what if saturn has > 4 points for house A/B or C ?

 

Thanks

 

Satish

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ashji/Donna/Satish,

a)

in the lesson 36. its said that jupiter's malefic sight is only

considered but not conjunction.

what if jupiter is with less than 4 points and is conjunction with

lord of A and B both ?

can we take it as delay by jupiter ?

b) when it aspects lords in navamsa, its only considered whether

jupiter is benefic or malefic in rasi. so we dont have to take points

of jupiter in navamsa or you can say check if jupiter is malefic or

benefic in navamsa ?

 

thanks/regards

harjeet

, " Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Satish,

>

>

>

> No, for Saturn the rules are a bit different from Jupiter. Sa is a

natural

> malefic whereas Ju is a natural benefic.

>

> Saturn's natural quality is to delay and Jupiter will delay under

specific

> conditions only. So the place where Sa is irrespective of the bindus it

> has, it affects the house and it is not the case with Jupiter.

>

> If Saturn owns ABorC house then that house is affected for Saturn, for

> Jupiter if it owns then as per the lesson, the SAV must be less than

4 means

> means its malefic for the house. So here we are finding if Ju is

malefic

> for the house it owns whereas Saturn is natural malefic and delay

causing

> planet so irrespective of the fact that if Sa owns house ABC and

> irrespective of the bindus it has in that house, it will affect the

house.

>

> I think it will be clear now.

>

>

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of SPK

> Thursday October 25, 2007 8:22 AM

>

> Question: Shani Delay

>

>

>

> Dear Ash,and the list

>

> Going through the lesson on Jupiter delay. I noticed

> that Jupiter will cause delay if he aspects say house

> B and is lord of A as long as he has <4 points in

> House A in his BAV.

>

> Now the question is what about shani? If shani becomes

> lord of a/b or C and the other condiations of saturn

> delay are met for the other two houses. Does saturn

> also has to have < 4 points in the house he owns to

> qualify for full delay ? Many times saturn does have <

> 4 points anyway and it just happens by default. But

> what if saturn has > 4 points for house A/B or C ?

>

> Thanks

>

> Satish

>

>

>

>

> http://mail. <>

>

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Dear

Harjeet,

Brilliant

question about Ju being with less points and conjoining LoA and LoB. Here for

that please wait J.

I am

happy that u are thinking on proper track.

I have

asked Krushnaji this question and he said that these laws he has given are

basics. There is more theory portion is to be covered and that Krushnaji will

give us.

Now

basic thing and sure shot delay is given in this lesson. This is just a start.

Once more theory is covered then that can be applied and things will get clear.

Basic

thing is that MALEFIC aspect of Jupiter on LoA, House A and LoB or House B will

definitely delay. Worst is when Ju is 6th lord and it aspects LoA /

House A and LoB / House B then it can cause separation during its antra (link

it back to lesson)

I am very happy to see this question. Try

it on charts and let me know. If you have some charts with Ju with less than 4

bindus conjoining LoA and LoB then what is the facts?

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi

Thursday October 25, 2007

11:29 AM

 

 

Re: Question: Shani Delay

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ashji/Donna/Satish,

a)

in the lesson 36. its said that jupiter's malefic sight is only

considered but not conjunction.

what if jupiter is with less than 4 points and is conjunction with

lord of A and B both ?

can we take it as delay by jupiter ?

b) when it aspects lords in navamsa, its only considered whether

jupiter is benefic or malefic in rasi. so we dont have to take points

of jupiter in navamsa or you can say check if jupiter is malefic or

benefic in navamsa ?

 

thanks/regards

harjeet

,

" Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Satish,

>

>

>

> No, for Saturn the rules are a bit different from Jupiter. Sa is a

natural

> malefic whereas Ju is a natural benefic.

>

> Saturn's natural quality is to delay and Jupiter will delay under

specific

> conditions only. So the place where Sa is irrespective of the bindus it

> has, it affects the house and it is not the case with Jupiter.

>

> If Saturn owns ABorC house then that house is affected for Saturn, for

> Jupiter if it owns then as per the lesson, the SAV must be less than

4 means

> means its malefic for the house. So here we are finding if Ju is

malefic

> for the house it owns whereas Saturn is natural malefic and delay

causing

> planet so irrespective of the fact that if Sa owns house ABC and

> irrespective of the bindus it has in that house, it will affect the

house.

>

> I think it will be clear now.

>

>

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of SPK

> Thursday October 25, 2007 8:22 AM

>

> Question: Shani Delay

>

>

>

> Dear Ash,and the list

>

> Going through the lesson on Jupiter delay. I noticed

> that Jupiter will cause delay if he aspects say house

> B and is lord of A as long as he has <4 points in

> House A in his BAV.

>

> Now the question is what about shani? If shani becomes

> lord of a/b or C and the other condiations of saturn

> delay are met for the other two houses. Does saturn

> also has to have < 4 points in the house he owns to

> qualify for full delay ? Many times saturn does have <

> 4 points anyway and it just happens by default. But

> what if saturn has > 4 points for house A/B or C ?

>

> Thanks

>

> Satish

>

>

>

>

> http://mail. <>

 

>

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Dear Ash,

 

Could you please shed light on the quantification of

delay. May Krushnaji is going to give that in next

lesson.

 

Ramesh had achart that had Shani and Guru delay, but

when guru delay will be over is not clear.

 

Satish

 

P.S. Also waiting for the lesson on when to look at

the chart from moon.

--- Ash <kas wrote:

 

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> Brilliant question about Ju being with less points

> and conjoining LoA and

> LoB. Here for that please wait :-).

>

> I am happy that u are thinking on proper track.

>

> I have asked Krushnaji this question and he said

> that these laws he has

> given are basics. There is more theory portion is

> to be covered and that

> Krushnaji will give us.

>

> Now basic thing and sure shot delay is given in this

> lesson. This is just a

> start. Once more theory is covered then that can be

> applied and things will

> get clear.

>

> Basic thing is that MALEFIC aspect of Jupiter on

> LoA, House A and LoB or

> House B will definitely delay. Worst is when Ju is

> 6th lord and it aspects

> LoA / House A and LoB / House B then it can cause

> separation during its

> antra (link it back to lesson)

>

> I am very happy to see this question. Try it on

> charts and let me know. If

> you have some charts with Ju with less than 4 bindus

> conjoining LoA and LoB

> then what is the facts?

>

>

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

>

> On

> Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Thursday October 25, 2007 11:29 AM

>

> Re: Question:

> Shani Delay

>

>

>

> Dear Ashji/Donna/Satish,

> a)

> in the lesson 36. its said that jupiter's malefic

> sight is only

> considered but not conjunction.

> what if jupiter is with less than 4 points and is

> conjunction with

> lord of A and B both ?

> can we take it as delay by jupiter ?

> b) when it aspects lords in navamsa, its only

> considered whether

> jupiter is benefic or malefic in rasi. so we dont

> have to take points

> of jupiter in navamsa or you can say check if

> jupiter is malefic or

> benefic in navamsa ?

>

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

> vents ,

> " Ash " <kas wrote:

> >

> > Dear Satish,

> >

> >

> >

> > No, for Saturn the rules are a bit different from

> Jupiter. Sa is a

> natural

> > malefic whereas Ju is a natural benefic.

> >

> > Saturn's natural quality is to delay and Jupiter

> will delay under

> specific

> > conditions only. So the place where Sa is

> irrespective of the bindus it

> > has, it affects the house and it is not the case

> with Jupiter.

> >

> > If Saturn owns ABorC house then that house is

> affected for Saturn, for

> > Jupiter if it owns then as per the lesson, the SAV

> must be less than

> 4 means

> > means its malefic for the house. So here we are

> finding if Ju is

> malefic

> > for the house it owns whereas Saturn is natural

> malefic and delay

> causing

> > planet so irrespective of the fact that if Sa owns

> house ABC and

> > irrespective of the bindus it has in that house,

> it will affect the

> house.

> >

> > I think it will be clear now.

> >

> >

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

> ca> http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

> vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

> vents ]

> On Behalf Of SPK

> > Thursday October 25, 2007 8:22 AM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

> vents

> > Question:

> Shani Delay

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Ash,and the list

> >

> > Going through the lesson on Jupiter delay. I

> noticed

> > that Jupiter will cause delay if he aspects say

> house

> > B and is lord of A as long as he has <4 points in

> > House A in his BAV.

> >

> > Now the question is what about shani? If shani

> becomes

> > lord of a/b or C and the other condiations of

> saturn

> > delay are met for the other two houses. Does

> saturn

> > also has to have < 4 points in the house he owns

> to

> > qualify for full delay ? Many times saturn does

> have <

> > 4 points anyway and it just happens by default.

> But

> > what if saturn has > 4 points for house A/B or C ?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Satish

> >

> >

> >

> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> protection around

> > http://mail. <http://mail. <>

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ashji,

thanks very much. i dont have a chart as yet... but would post it as

soon as i get one.

i know more is still to come on this by Krushnaji..

but was just thinking what happens when the aspect of jupiter is

malefic on B or its lord ..but jupiter happens to be lord of D or E ?

should it still cause delay ?

thanks/regards

harjeet

, " Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> Brilliant question about Ju being with less points and conjoining

LoA and

> LoB. Here for that please wait :-).

>

> I am happy that u are thinking on proper track.

>

> I have asked Krushnaji this question and he said that these laws he has

> given are basics. There is more theory portion is to be covered and

that

> Krushnaji will give us.

>

> Now basic thing and sure shot delay is given in this lesson. This

is just a

> start. Once more theory is covered then that can be applied and

things will

> get clear.

>

> Basic thing is that MALEFIC aspect of Jupiter on LoA, House A and LoB or

> House B will definitely delay. Worst is when Ju is 6th lord and it

aspects

> LoA / House A and LoB / House B then it can cause separation during its

> antra (link it back to lesson)

>

> I am very happy to see this question. Try it on charts and let me

know. If

> you have some charts with Ju with less than 4 bindus conjoining LoA

and LoB

> then what is the facts?

>

>

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Thursday October 25, 2007 11:29 AM

>

> Re: Question: Shani Delay

>

>

>

> Dear Ashji/Donna/Satish,

> a)

> in the lesson 36. its said that jupiter's malefic sight is only

> considered but not conjunction.

> what if jupiter is with less than 4 points and is conjunction with

> lord of A and B both ?

> can we take it as delay by jupiter ?

> b) when it aspects lords in navamsa, its only considered whether

> jupiter is benefic or malefic in rasi. so we dont have to take points

> of jupiter in navamsa or you can say check if jupiter is malefic or

> benefic in navamsa ?

>

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Satish,

> >

> >

> >

> > No, for Saturn the rules are a bit different from Jupiter. Sa is a

> natural

> > malefic whereas Ju is a natural benefic.

> >

> > Saturn's natural quality is to delay and Jupiter will delay under

> specific

> > conditions only. So the place where Sa is irrespective of the

bindus it

> > has, it affects the house and it is not the case with Jupiter.

> >

> > If Saturn owns ABorC house then that house is affected for Saturn, for

> > Jupiter if it owns then as per the lesson, the SAV must be less than

> 4 means

> > means its malefic for the house. So here we are finding if Ju is

> malefic

> > for the house it owns whereas Saturn is natural malefic and delay

> causing

> > planet so irrespective of the fact that if Sa owns house ABC and

> > irrespective of the bindus it has in that house, it will affect the

> house.

> >

> > I think it will be clear now.

> >

> >

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of SPK

> > Thursday October 25, 2007 8:22 AM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Question: Shani Delay

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Ash,and the list

> >

> > Going through the lesson on Jupiter delay. I noticed

> > that Jupiter will cause delay if he aspects say house

> > B and is lord of A as long as he has <4 points in

> > House A in his BAV.

> >

> > Now the question is what about shani? If shani becomes

> > lord of a/b or C and the other condiations of saturn

> > delay are met for the other two houses. Does saturn

> > also has to have < 4 points in the house he owns to

> > qualify for full delay ? Many times saturn does have <

> > 4 points anyway and it just happens by default. But

> > what if saturn has > 4 points for house A/B or C ?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Satish

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > http://mail. <http://mail. <> >

 

> >

>

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