Guest guest Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Dear Ash, Thanks much for the correction. I will again analyze. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Manu, > > Is the marriage date matching? I am writing in a rush, but u and Anup first > spend time to rectify the chart. > > Find timing of marriage and see. Then check other events and that way both > of u can iron out the proper ascendant first. > > Have a discussion, and find out about the personality and other things as > well to confirm the lagna. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Manu V Batura > Thursday November 29, 2007 12:49 PM > > RE: Re: samdharmi question > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > Bobby's chart is quite interesting. I think ari ascendant is correct and no > rectification is required. > > > > Mo is in cancer with 4 bindus, Ve is asc with 3 bindus and sa in cap with 5 > bindus. Mo and Sa not only oppose each other, but if you check from Ve also, > Ve opposes Sa while Mo is strong to Ve. So, Ke since it is SD to Sa and Mo > will be eager to gives results of both (more so for Sa since it has 5 > bindus). However, Mo in opposition to Sa (in both ways) is reducing quality. > So, although Ke will give event it will be in opposition direction. > > > > Just check what happened in 1993, that time also native was running ke antra > and he got laid off. So, timing is triggering but the direction is reversed. > Mo is eager for 7th house results, so it shows change in dincharya. Also, > although it is a postportem after facts have been provided but just see what > happened after his lay off. Maybe marriage was also around the corner. So, > Mo (7th) won against Sa (6th). He lost his job, but got married > subsequently. Also if you check Sa, is more eager for 5th house results than > 6th, since Sa is placed in E with 5 bindus for 5th house and 5th house is > 12th to 6th house. > > > > Father demise also in ma antra, which is LoD for 4th house. First child in > Sa, LoE for 5th, Second child somehow I am not able to reason. Ma is neither > LoD/LoE, nor with good points in WS, nor placed in D/E nor SD to eager > planets. Will request Ash to help here. > > > > Otherwise a good chart for list members to study events. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:22 PM > > Re: Re: samdharmi question > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > Sorry i changed the subject under question but wanted to > > give an example of the native ,i replied few months back > > in this context. > > > > I hope this will help.But i adhere as per TOB given by bobby. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > bobbyusd <bobbyusd wrote: > > Dear Anupji, > Just wanted to give a feedback. Nothing has matrialsied yet. The lead > that I had seems to have gone asleep. > With warm regards > Bobby > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Bobby Mehrotra > <bobbyusd@> wrote: > > > > Thankyou Sir. > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: Bobby, > > > > Your TOB is very close to both the ascendant.So assuming your TOB > both the ways,the chances are very good that you will get a job > before Dec2007. > > You may hear some good news after Aug-sept2007,and get a job in Dec > this year. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bobbyusd <bobbyusd@> wrote: > > Dear Gurujans, > > I have been in touch with two compaies for the past few months. > > 1. With the first company, I have had a few meetings. In the last > one, > > I was vaguely offered a job in a different city, which I refused. > > > > 2. The second comapny also seems to be interested. > > > > For some reason things have just come to a standstill. I have not > heard > > from the first one and the second wants more time. > > > > Can any of the gurujans offer some advise as to what I can expect > in > > the near future?? I am a little anxious now. > > > > DoB: 14.4.62, Male > > Time: 7.20 am > > Place: Lucknow > > > > Thanking you and warm regards > > Bobby > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Dear Ash, Anup, I again looked at the chart from marriage perspective to determine the correct lagna between ari and tau. With tau lagna no doubts that sa delay is there, but I wanted to check with you on Sa delay for ari lagna as well. With ari lagna, sa is lord of A in navamsa, is in house B in navamsa and is rasi lord of C in rasi chart. Now, I am not too sure if we can use navamsa chart like this, but if this is the case then too we still need to determine the correct lagna between ari and tau. With tau lagna my doubt regarding second child is solved, since the birth of daughter matches now, since ma has good WS points for 5th house. However, when we check for death of father, it seems to fail. Ma has very low points for 4th house and is neither LoD/LoE. So, I guess I still have doubts wrt to both lagnas. Would need your help on this one Ash. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Manu Batura Friday, November 30, 2007 10:01 PM Re: samdharmi question Dear Ash, Thanks much for the correction. I will again analyze. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Manu, > > Is the marriage date matching? I am writing in a rush, but u and Anup first > spend time to rectify the chart. > > Find timing of marriage and see. Then check other events and that way both > of u can iron out the proper ascendant first. > > Have a discussion, and find out about the personality and other things as > well to confirm the lagna. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Manu V Batura > Thursday November 29, 2007 12:49 PM > > RE: Re: samdharmi question > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > Bobby's chart is quite interesting. I think ari ascendant is correct and no > rectification is required. > > > > Mo is in cancer with 4 bindus, Ve is asc with 3 bindus and sa in cap with 5 > bindus. Mo and Sa not only oppose each other, but if you check from Ve also, > Ve opposes Sa while Mo is strong to Ve. So, Ke since it is SD to Sa and Mo > will be eager to gives results of both (more so for Sa since it has 5 > bindus). However, Mo in opposition to Sa (in both ways) is reducing quality. > So, although Ke will give event it will be in opposition direction. > > > > Just check what happened in 1993, that time also native was running ke antra > and he got laid off. So, timing is triggering but the direction is reversed. > Mo is eager for 7th house results, so it shows change in dincharya. Also, > although it is a postportem after facts have been provided but just see what > happened after his lay off. Maybe marriage was also around the corner. So, > Mo (7th) won against Sa (6th). He lost his job, but got married > subsequently. Also if you check Sa, is more eager for 5th house results than > 6th, since Sa is placed in E with 5 bindus for 5th house and 5th house is > 12th to 6th house. > > > > Father demise also in ma antra, which is LoD for 4th house. First child in > Sa, LoE for 5th, Second child somehow I am not able to reason. Ma is neither > LoD/LoE, nor with good points in WS, nor placed in D/E nor SD to eager > planets. Will request Ash to help here. > > > > Otherwise a good chart for list members to study events. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:22 PM > > Re: Re: samdharmi question > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > Sorry i changed the subject under question but wanted to > > give an example of the native ,i replied few months back > > in this context. > > > > I hope this will help.But i adhere as per TOB given by bobby. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > bobbyusd <bobbyusd wrote: > > Dear Anupji, > Just wanted to give a feedback. Nothing has matrialsied yet. The lead > that I had seems to have gone asleep. > With warm regards > Bobby > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > Bobby Mehrotra > <bobbyusd@> wrote: > > > > Thankyou Sir. > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: Bobby, > > > > Your TOB is very close to both the ascendant.So assuming your TOB > both the ways,the chances are very good that you will get a job > before Dec2007. > > You may hear some good news after Aug-sept2007,and get a job in Dec > this year. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bobbyusd <bobbyusd@> wrote: > > Dear Gurujans, > > I have been in touch with two compaies for the past few months. > > 1. With the first company, I have had a few meetings. In the last > one, > > I was vaguely offered a job in a different city, which I refused. > > > > 2. The second comapny also seems to be interested. > > > > For some reason things have just come to a standstill. I have not > heard > > from the first one and the second wants more time. > > > > Can any of the gurujans offer some advise as to what I can expect > in > > the near future?? I am a little anxious now. > > > > DoB: 14.4.62, Male > > Time: 7.20 am > > Place: Lucknow > > > > Thanking you and warm regards > > Bobby > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Dear Manu, I dont think that we can consider delay from navamsa houses as you explained.May be i am wrong but Ash can correct me. Saturn must be in or aspect house A, B, and C OR should be with or aspect LoA, LoB and LoC in rasi. This same thing is seen in navamsa as well. You are quite right that death of father in Mars antra is not possible. Mars is weak in 4th house and good points in 11th. If we finetune the TOB (just for learning sake taking as 07.51am), second child birth is too justified to some extent, taking toleration period of 13days. We can not ignore event like father's death though. Somewhere in archives,this is written that 8 out of 10 events atleast should be justified and can be considered as well. Krushnaji in one of the mail,while rectifying Peterji's chart, provided 40 events and advised to find active points in a chart where events generally happened ,good or bad when the Sun transit in a particular strongest sign/nakshtra. I hope Ash can help us to learn more about such things where major event like father's death is not justified. Discussion is always useful in such cases irrespect of who is wrong or right:) Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Ash, Anup,I again looked at the chart from marriage perspective to determine thecorrect lagna between ari and tau.With tau lagna no doubts that sa delay is there, but I wanted to check withyou on Sa delay for ari lagna as well. With ari lagna, sa is lord of A in navamsa, is in house B in navamsa and israsi lord of C in rasi chart. Now, I am not too sure if we can use navamsachart like this, but if this is the case then too we still need to determinethe correct lagna between ari and tau.With tau lagna my doubt regarding second child is solved, since the birth ofdaughter matches now, since ma has good WS points for 5th house. However,when we check for death of father, it seems to fail. Ma has very low pointsfor 4th house and is neither LoD/LoE.So, I guess I still have doubts wrt to both lagnas. Would need your help onthis one Ash.Thanks & Regards,Manu [ ] On Behalf Of Manu BaturaFriday, November 30, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: Re: samdharmi questionDear Ash,Thanks much for the correction. I will again analyze.Thanks & Regards,Manu , "Ash" wrote:>> Dear Manu,> > Is the marriage date matching? I am writing in a rush, but u andAnup first> spend time to rectify the chart. > > Find timing of marriage and see. Then check other events and thatway both> of u can iron out the proper ascendant first.> > Have a discussion, and find out about the personality and otherthings as> well to confirm the lagna.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of ManuV Batura> Thursday November 29, 2007 12:49 PM> > RE: Re: samdharmi question> > > > Dear Anup,> > > > Bobby's chart is quite interesting. I think ari ascendant is correctand no> rectification is required.> > > > Mo is in cancer with 4 bindus, Ve is asc with 3 bindus and sa in capwith 5> bindus. Mo and Sa not only oppose each other, but if you check fromVe also,> Ve opposes Sa while Mo is strong to Ve. So, Ke since it is SD to Saand Mo> will be eager to gives results of both (more so for Sa since it has 5> bindus). However, Mo in opposition to Sa (in both ways) is reducingquality.> So, although Ke will give event it will be in opposition direction. > > > > Just check what happened in 1993, that time also native was runningke antra> and he got laid off. So, timing is triggering but the direction isreversed.> Mo is eager for 7th house results, so it shows change in dincharya.Also,> although it is a postportem after facts have been provided but justsee what> happened after his lay off. Maybe marriage was also around thecorner. So,> Mo (7th) won against Sa (6th). He lost his job, but got married> subsequently. Also if you check Sa, is more eager for 5th houseresults than> 6th, since Sa is placed in E with 5 bindus for 5th house and 5thhouse is> 12th to 6th house. > > > > Father demise also in ma antra, which is LoD for 4th house. Firstchild in> Sa, LoE for 5th, Second child somehow I am not able to reason. Ma isneither> LoD/LoE, nor with good points in WS, nor placed in D/E nor SD to eager> planets. Will request Ash to help here.> > > > Otherwise a good chart for list members to study events.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > Manu> > > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M> Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:22 PM> > Re: Re: samdharmi question> > > > Dear Manu,> > > > Sorry i changed the subject under question but wanted to > > give an example of the native ,i replied few months back> > in this context.> > > > I hope this will help.But i adhere as per TOB given by bobby.> > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > > > bobbyusd wrote:> > Dear Anupji,> Just wanted to give a feedback. Nothing has matrialsied yet. The lead > that I had seems to have gone asleep.> With warm regards> Bobby> > astrologyandtiminge> vents ,> Bobby Mehrotra > wrote:> >> > Thankyou Sir.> > > > "Anup. M" wrote: Bobby,> > > > Your TOB is very close to both the ascendant.So assuming your TOB > both the ways,the chances are very good that you will get a job > before Dec2007.> > You may hear some good news after Aug-sept2007,and get a job in Dec > this year.> > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bobbyusd wrote:> > Dear Gurujans,> > I have been in touch with two compaies for the past few months.> > 1. With the first company, I have had a few meetings. In the last > one, > > I was vaguely offered a job in a different city, which I refused.> > > > 2. The second comapny also seems to be interested.> > > > For some reason things have just come to a standstill. I have not > heard > > from the first one and the second wants more time.> > > > Can any of the gurujans offer some advise as to what I can expect > in > > the near future?? I am a little anxious now.> > > > DoB: 14.4.62, Male> > Time: 7.20 am> > Place: Lucknow> > > > Thanking you and warm regards> > Bobby> > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Dear Anup, I guess you are right about navamsa thing. I am sure Ash would be able to help us with events that are not matching! This might prove to be a good chart for lagna correction and in the process we may learn new stuff. And I agree Anup, analysis is good or not good enough. Person analyzing is always a right person, eh! Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. M Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:33 AM To: RE: Re: samdharmi question Dear Manu, I dont think that we can consider delay from navamsa houses as you explained.May be i am wrong but Ash can correct me. Saturn must be in or aspect house A, B, and C OR should be with or aspect LoA, LoB and LoC in rasi. This same thing is seen in navamsa as well. You are quite right that death of father in Mars antra is not possible. Mars is weak in 4th house and good points in 11th. If we finetune the TOB (just for learning sake taking as 07.51am), second child birth is too justified to some extent, taking toleration period of 13days. We can not ignore event like father's death though. Somewhere in archives,this is written that 8 out of 10 events atleast should be justified and can be considered as well. Krushnaji in one of the mail,while rectifying Peterji's chart, provided 40 events and advised to find active points in a chart where events generally happened ,good or bad when the Sun transit in a particular strongest sign/nakshtra. I hope Ash can help us to learn more about such things where major event like father's death is not justified. Discussion is always useful in such cases irrespect of who is wrong or right:) Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Ash, Anup, I again looked at the chart from marriage perspective to determine the correct lagna between ari and tau. With tau lagna no doubts that sa delay is there, but I wanted to check with you on Sa delay for ari lagna as well. With ari lagna, sa is lord of A in navamsa, is in house B in navamsa and is rasi lord of C in rasi chart. Now, I am not too sure if we can use navamsa chart like this, but if this is the case then too we still need to determine the correct lagna between ari and tau. With tau lagna my doubt regarding second child is solved, since the birth of daughter matches now, since ma has good WS points for 5th house. However, when we check for death of father, it seems to fail. Ma has very low points for 4th house and is neither LoD/LoE. So, I guess I still have doubts wrt to both lagnas. Would need your help on this one Ash. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Manu Batura Friday, November 30, 2007 10:01 PM Re: samdharmi question Dear Ash, Thanks much for the correction. I will again analyze. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " Ash " wrote: > > Dear Manu, > > Is the marriage date matching? I am writing in a rush, but u and Anup first > spend time to rectify the chart. > > Find timing of marriage and see. Then check other events and that way both > of u can iron out the proper ascendant first. > > Have a discussion, and find out about the personality and other things as > well to confirm the lagna. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Manu V Batura > Thursday November 29, 2007 12:49 PM > > RE: Re: samdharmi question > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > Bobby's chart is quite interesting. I think ari ascendant is correct and no > rectification is required. > > > > Mo is in cancer with 4 bindus, Ve is asc with 3 bindus and sa in cap with 5 > bindus. Mo and Sa not only oppose each other, but if you check from Ve also, > Ve opposes Sa while Mo is strong to Ve. So, Ke since it is SD to Sa and Mo > will be eager to gives results of both (more so for Sa since it has 5 > bindus). However, Mo in opposition to Sa (in both ways) is reducing quality. > So, although Ke will give event it will be in opposition direction. > > > > Just check what happened in 1993, that time also native was running ke antra > and he got laid off. So, timing is triggering but the direction is reversed. > Mo is eager for 7th house results, so it shows change in dincharya. Also, > although it is a postportem after facts have been provided but just see what > happened after his lay off. Maybe marriage was also around the corner. So, > Mo (7th) won against Sa (6th). He lost his job, but got married > subsequently. Also if you check Sa, is more eager for 5th house results than > 6th, since Sa is placed in E with 5 bindus for 5th house and 5th house is > 12th to 6th house. > > > > Father demise also in ma antra, which is LoD for 4th house. First child in > Sa, LoE for 5th, Second child somehow I am not able to reason. Ma is neither > LoD/LoE, nor with good points in WS, nor placed in D/E nor SD to eager > planets. Will request Ash to help here. > > > > Otherwise a good chart for list members to study events. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:22 PM > > Re: Re: samdharmi question > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > Sorry i changed the subject under question but wanted to > > give an example of the native ,i replied few months back > > in this context. > > > > I hope this will help.But i adhere as per TOB given by bobby. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > bobbyusd wrote: > > Dear Anupji, > Just wanted to give a feedback. Nothing has matrialsied yet. The lead > that I had seems to have gone asleep. > With warm regards > Bobby > > astrologyandtiminge > vents , > Bobby Mehrotra > wrote: > > > > Thankyou Sir. > > > > " Anup. M " wrote: Bobby, > > > > Your TOB is very close to both the ascendant.So assuming your TOB > both the ways,the chances are very good that you will get a job > before Dec2007. > > You may hear some good news after Aug-sept2007,and get a job in Dec > this year. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bobbyusd wrote: > > Dear Gurujans, > > I have been in touch with two compaies for the past few months. > > 1. With the first company, I have had a few meetings. In the last > one, > > I was vaguely offered a job in a different city, which I refused. > > > > 2. The second comapny also seems to be interested. > > > > For some reason things have just come to a standstill. I have not > heard > > from the first one and the second wants more time. > > > > Can any of the gurujans offer some advise as to what I can expect > in > > the near future?? I am a little anxious now. > > > > DoB: 14.4.62, Male > > Time: 7.20 am > > Place: Lucknow > > > > Thanking you and warm regards > > Bobby > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Dear Manu, Thanks for your time and views while discussing this chart. You are always humble unlike me while putting your understanding. We should wait for Ash getting back to his laptop and guide us properly. I am also learning a lot of things from you in absence of Ash. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Anup, I guess you are right about navamsa thing. I am sure Ash would be able to help us with events that are not matching! This might prove to be a good chart for lagna correction and in the process we may learn new stuff. And I agree Anup, analysis is good or not good enough. Person analyzing is always a right person, eh! Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. MSunday, December 02, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: RE: Re: samdharmi question Dear Manu, I dont think that we can consider delay from navamsa houses as you explained.May be i am wrong but Ash can correct me. Saturn must be in or aspect house A, B, and C OR should be with or aspect LoA, LoB and LoC in rasi. This same thing is seen in navamsa as well. You are quite right that death of father in Mars antra is not possible. Mars is weak in 4th house and good points in 11th. If we finetune the TOB (just for learning sake taking as 07.51am), second child birth is too justified to some extent, taking toleration period of 13days. We can not ignore event like father's death though. Somewhere in archives,this is written that 8 out of 10 events atleast should be justified and can be considered as well. Krushnaji in one of the mail,while rectifying Peterji's chart, provided 40 events and advised to find active points in a chart where events generally happened ,good or bad when the Sun transit in a particular strongest sign/nakshtra. I hope Ash can help us to learn more about such things where major event like father's death is not justified. Discussion is always useful in such cases irrespect of who is wrong or right:) Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu > wrote: Dear Ash, Anup,I again looked at the chart from marriage perspective to determine thecorrect lagna between ari and tau.With tau lagna no doubts that sa delay is there, but I wanted to check withyou on Sa delay for ari lagna as well. With ari lagna, sa is lord of A in navamsa, is in house B in navamsa and israsi lord of C in rasi chart. Now, I am not too sure if we can use navamsachart like this, but if this is the case then too we still need to determinethe correct lagna between ari and tau.With tau lagna my doubt regarding second child is solved, since the birth ofdaughter matches now, since ma has good WS points for 5th house. However,when we check for death of father, it seems to fail. Ma has very low pointsfor 4th house and is neither LoD/LoE.So, I guess I still have doubts wrt to both lagnas. Would need your help onthis one Ash.Thanks & Regards,Manu [ ] On Behalf Of Manu BaturaFriday, November 30, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: Re: samdharmi questionDear Ash,Thanks much for the correction. I will again analyze.Thanks & Regards,Manu , "Ash" wrote:>> Dear Manu,> > Is the marriage date matching? I am writing in a rush, but u andAnup first> spend time to rectify the chart. > > Find timing of marriage and see. Then check other events and thatway both> of u can iron out the proper ascendant first.> > Have a discussion, and find out about the personality and otherthings as> well to confirm the lagna.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of ManuV Batura> Thursday November 29, 2007 12:49 PM> > RE: Re: samdharmi question> > > > Dear Anup,> > > > Bobby's chart is quite interesting. I think ari ascendant is correctand no> rectification is required.> > > > Mo is in cancer with 4 bindus, Ve is asc with 3 bindus and sa in capwith 5> bindus. Mo and Sa not only oppose each other, but if you check fromVe also,> Ve opposes Sa while Mo is strong to Ve. So, Ke since it is SD to Saand Mo> will be eager to gives results of both (more so for Sa since it has 5> bindus). However, Mo in opposition to Sa (in both ways) is reducingquality.> So, although Ke will give event it will be in opposition direction. > > > > Just check what happened in 1993, that time also native was runningke antra> and he got laid off. So, timing is triggering but the direction isreversed.> Mo is eager for 7th house results, so it shows change in dincharya.Also,> although it is a postportem after facts have been provided but justsee what> happened after his lay off. Maybe marriage was also around thecorner. So,> Mo (7th) won against Sa (6th). He lost his job, but got married> subsequently. Also if you check Sa, is more eager for 5th houseresults than> 6th, since Sa is placed in E with 5 bindus for 5th house and 5thhouse is> 12th to 6th house. > > > > Father demise also in ma antra, which is LoD for 4th house. Firstchild in> Sa, LoE for 5th, Second child somehow I am not able to reason. Ma isneither> LoD/LoE, nor with good points in WS, nor placed in D/E nor SD to eager> planets. Will request Ash to help here.> > > > Otherwise a good chart for list members to study events.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > Manu> > > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M> Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:22 PM> > Re: Re: samdharmi question> > > > Dear Manu,> > > > Sorry i changed the subject under question but wanted to > > give an example of the native ,i replied few months back> > in this context.> > > > I hope this will help.But i adhere as per TOB given by bobby.> > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > > > bobbyusd wrote:> > Dear Anupji,> Just wanted to give a feedback. Nothing has matrialsied yet. The lead > that I had seems to have gone asleep.> With warm regards> Bobby> > astrologyandtiminge> vents ,> Bobby Mehrotra > wrote:> >> > Thankyou Sir.> > > > "Anup. M" wrote: Bobby,> > > > Your TOB is very close to both the ascendant.So assuming your TOB > both the ways,the chances are very good that you will get a job > before Dec2007.> > You may hear some good news after Aug-sept2007,and get a job in Dec > this year.> > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bobbyusd wrote:> > Dear Gurujans,> > I have been in touch with two compaies for the past few months.> > 1. With the first company, I have had a few meetings. In the last > one, > > I was vaguely offered a job in a different city, which I refused.> > > > 2. The second comapny also seems to be interested.> > > > For some reason things have just come to a standstill. I have not > heard > > from the first one and the second wants more time.> > > > Can any of the gurujans offer some advise as to what I can expect > in > > the near future?? I am a little anxious now.> > > > DoB: 14.4.62, Male> > Time: 7.20 am> > Place: Lucknow> > > > Thanking you and warm regards> > Bobby> > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Dear Anup, Had a short discussion with Ash. You were right, Tau should be the lagna. The navamsa logic that I used was faulty. We should be checking placement on sa in 5th house only for delay. Not the way I used it. Also, all the events seem to match with tau lagna except for death of father. Since, death has not been covered in detail as of now, we can skip it for now and come back to it later when we have more details. Hope this helps. Happy learning. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. M Sunday, December 02, 2007 6:00 PM To: RE: Re: samdharmi question Dear Manu, Thanks for your time and views while discussing this chart. You are always humble unlike me while putting your understanding. We should wait for Ash getting back to his laptop and guide us properly. I am also learning a lot of things from you in absence of Ash. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Anup, I guess you are right about navamsa thing. I am sure Ash would be able to help us with events that are not matching! This might prove to be a good chart for lagna correction and in the process we may learn new stuff. And I agree Anup, analysis is good or not good enough. Person analyzing is always a right person, eh! Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. M Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:33 AM RE: Re: samdharmi question Dear Manu, I dont think that we can consider delay from navamsa houses as you explained.May be i am wrong but Ash can correct me. Saturn must be in or aspect house A, B, and C OR should be with or aspect LoA, LoB and LoC in rasi. This same thing is seen in navamsa as well. You are quite right that death of father in Mars antra is not possible. Mars is weak in 4th house and good points in 11th. If we finetune the TOB (just for learning sake taking as 07.51am), second child birth is too justified to some extent, taking toleration period of 13days. We can not ignore event like father's death though. Somewhere in archives,this is written that 8 out of 10 events atleast should be justified and can be considered as well. Krushnaji in one of the mail,while rectifying Peterji's chart, provided 40 events and advised to find active points in a chart where events generally happened ,good or bad when the Sun transit in a particular strongest sign/nakshtra. I hope Ash can help us to learn more about such things where major event like father's death is not justified. Discussion is always useful in such cases irrespect of who is wrong or right:) Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu > wrote: Dear Ash, Anup, I again looked at the chart from marriage perspective to determine the correct lagna between ari and tau. With tau lagna no doubts that sa delay is there, but I wanted to check with you on Sa delay for ari lagna as well. With ari lagna, sa is lord of A in navamsa, is in house B in navamsa and is rasi lord of C in rasi chart. Now, I am not too sure if we can use navamsa chart like this, but if this is the case then too we still need to determine the correct lagna between ari and tau. With tau lagna my doubt regarding second child is solved, since the birth of daughter matches now, since ma has good WS points for 5th house. However, when we check for death of father, it seems to fail. Ma has very low points for 4th house and is neither LoD/LoE. So, I guess I still have doubts wrt to both lagnas. Would need your help on this one Ash. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Manu Batura Friday, November 30, 2007 10:01 PM Re: samdharmi question Dear Ash, Thanks much for the correction. I will again analyze. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " Ash " wrote: > > Dear Manu, > > Is the marriage date matching? I am writing in a rush, but u and Anup first > spend time to rectify the chart. > > Find timing of marriage and see. Then check other events and that way both > of u can iron out the proper ascendant first. > > Have a discussion, and find out about the personality and other things as > well to confirm the lagna. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Manu V Batura > Thursday November 29, 2007 12:49 PM > > RE: Re: samdharmi question > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > Bobby's chart is quite interesting. I think ari ascendant is correct and no > rectification is required. > > > > Mo is in cancer with 4 bindus, Ve is asc with 3 bindus and sa in cap with 5 > bindus. Mo and Sa not only oppose each other, but if you check from Ve also, > Ve opposes Sa while Mo is strong to Ve. So, Ke since it is SD to Sa and Mo > will be eager to gives results of both (more so for Sa since it has 5 > bindus). However, Mo in opposition to Sa (in both ways) is reducing quality. > So, although Ke will give event it will be in opposition direction. > > > > Just check what happened in 1993, that time also native was running ke antra > and he got laid off. So, timing is triggering but the direction is reversed. > Mo is eager for 7th house results, so it shows change in dincharya. Also, > although it is a postportem after facts have been provided but just see what > happened after his lay off. Maybe marriage was also around the corner. So, > Mo (7th) won against Sa (6th). He lost his job, but got married > subsequently. Also if you check Sa, is more eager for 5th house results than > 6th, since Sa is placed in E with 5 bindus for 5th house and 5th house is > 12th to 6th house. > > > > Father demise also in ma antra, which is LoD for 4th house. First child in > Sa, LoE for 5th, Second child somehow I am not able to reason. Ma is neither > LoD/LoE, nor with good points in WS, nor placed in D/E nor SD to eager > planets. Will request Ash to help here. > > > > Otherwise a good chart for list members to study events. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:22 PM > > Re: Re: samdharmi question > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > Sorry i changed the subject under question but wanted to > > give an example of the native ,i replied few months back > > in this context. > > > > I hope this will help.But i adhere as per TOB given by bobby. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > bobbyusd wrote: > > Dear Anupji, > Just wanted to give a feedback. Nothing has matrialsied yet. The lead > that I had seems to have gone asleep. > With warm regards > Bobby > > astrologyandtiminge > vents , > Bobby Mehrotra > wrote: > > > > Thankyou Sir. > > > > " Anup. M " wrote: Bobby, > > > > Your TOB is very close to both the ascendant.So assuming your TOB > both the ways,the chances are very good that you will get a job > before Dec2007. > > You may hear some good news after Aug-sept2007,and get a job in Dec > this year. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bobbyusd wrote: > > Dear Gurujans, > > I have been in touch with two compaies for the past few months. > > 1. With the first company, I have had a few meetings. In the last > one, > > I was vaguely offered a job in a different city, which I refused. > > > > 2. The second comapny also seems to be interested. > > > > For some reason things have just come to a standstill. I have not > heard > > from the first one and the second wants more time. > > > > Can any of the gurujans offer some advise as to what I can expect > in > > the near future?? I am a little anxious now. > > > > DoB: 14.4.62, Male > > Time: 7.20 am > > Place: Lucknow > > > > Thanking you and warm regards > > Bobby > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Dear Manu, I wish i cld have ever talk or discuss with Ash as i am not able till now.You being senior to me,i always learnt a lot from you,Manu. Thankyou Manu,and please keep helping us from your past experience. Regards, Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Anup, Had a short discussion with Ash. You were right, Tau should be the lagna. The navamsa logic that I used was faulty. We should be checking placement on sa in 5th house only for delay. Not the way I used it. Also, all the events seem to match with tau lagna except for death of father. Since, death has not been covered in detail as of now, we can skip it for now and come back to it later when we have more details. Hope this helps. Happy learning. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. MSunday, December 02, 2007 6:00 PM Subject: RE: Re: samdharmi question Dear Manu, Thanks for your time and views while discussing this chart. You are always humble unlike me while putting your understanding. We should wait for Ash getting back to his laptop and guide us properly. I am also learning a lot of things from you in absence of Ash. Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu > wrote: Dear Anup, I guess you are right about navamsa thing. I am sure Ash would be able to help us with events that are not matching! This might prove to be a good chart for lagna correction and in the process we may learn new stuff. And I agree Anup, analysis is good or not good enough. Person analyzing is always a right person, eh! Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Anup. MSunday, December 02, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: RE: Re: samdharmi question Dear Manu, I dont think that we can consider delay from navamsa houses as you explained.May be i am wrong but Ash can correct me. Saturn must be in or aspect house A, B, and C OR should be with or aspect LoA, LoB and LoC in rasi. This same thing is seen in navamsa as well. You are quite right that death of father in Mars antra is not possible. Mars is weak in 4th house and good points in 11th. If we finetune the TOB (just for learning sake taking as 07.51am), second child birth is too justified to some extent, taking toleration period of 13days. We can not ignore event like father's death though. Somewhere in archives,this is written that 8 out of 10 events atleast should be justified and can be considered as well. Krushnaji in one of the mail,while rectifying Peterji's chart, provided 40 events and advised to find active points in a chart where events generally happened ,good or bad when the Sun transit in a particular strongest sign/nakshtra. I hope Ash can help us to learn more about such things where major event like father's death is not justified. Discussion is always useful in such cases irrespect of who is wrong or right:) Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu > wrote: Dear Ash, Anup,I again looked at the chart from marriage perspective to determine thecorrect lagna between ari and tau.With tau lagna no doubts that sa delay is there, but I wanted to check withyou on Sa delay for ari lagna as well. With ari lagna, sa is lord of A in navamsa, is in house B in navamsa and israsi lord of C in rasi chart. Now, I am not too sure if we can use navamsachart like this, but if this is the case then too we still need to determinethe correct lagna between ari and tau.With tau lagna my doubt regarding second child is solved, since the birth ofdaughter matches now, since ma has good WS points for 5th house. However,when we check for death of father, it seems to fail. Ma has very low pointsfor 4th house and is neither LoD/LoE.So, I guess I still have doubts wrt to both lagnas. Would need your help onthis one Ash.Thanks & Regards,Manu [ ] On Behalf Of Manu BaturaSent: Friday, November 30, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: Re: samdharmi questionDear Ash,Thanks much for the correction. I will again analyze.Thanks & Regards,Manu , "Ash" wrote:>> Dear Manu,> > Is the marriage date matching? I am writing in a rush, but u andAnup first> spend time to rectify the chart. > > Find timing of marriage and see. Then check other events and thatway both> of u can iron out the proper ascendant first.> > Have a discussion, and find out about the personality and otherthings as> well to confirm the lagna.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of ManuV Batura> Thursday November 29, 2007 12:49 PM> > RE: Re: samdharmi question> > > > Dear Anup,> > > > Bobby's chart is quite interesting. I think ari ascendant is correctand no> rectification is required.> > > > Mo is in cancer with 4 bindus, Ve is asc with 3 bindus and sa in capwith 5> bindus. Mo and Sa not only oppose each other, but if you check fromVe also,> Ve opposes Sa while Mo is strong to Ve. So, Ke since it is SD to Saand Mo> will be eager to gives results of both (more so for Sa since it has 5> bindus). However, Mo in opposition to Sa (in both ways) is reducingquality.> So, although Ke will give event it will be in opposition direction. > > > > Just check what happened in 1993, that time also native was runningke antra> and he got laid off. So, timing is triggering but the direction isreversed.> Mo is eager for 7th house results, so it shows change in dincharya.Also,> although it is a postportem after facts have been provided but justsee what> happened after his lay off. Maybe marriage was also around thecorner. So,> Mo (7th) won against Sa (6th). He lost his job, but got married> subsequently. Also if you check Sa, is more eager for 5th houseresults than> 6th, since Sa is placed in E with 5 bindus for 5th house and 5thhouse is> 12th to 6th house. > > > > Father demise also in ma antra, which is LoD for 4th house. Firstchild in> Sa, LoE for 5th, Second child somehow I am not able to reason. Ma isneither> LoD/LoE, nor with good points in WS, nor placed in D/E nor SD to eager> planets. Will request Ash to help here.> > > > Otherwise a good chart for list members to study events.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > Manu> > > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M> Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:22 PM> > Re: Re: samdharmi question> > > > Dear Manu,> > > > Sorry i changed the subject under question but wanted to > > give an example of the native ,i replied few months back> > in this context.> > > > I hope this will help.But i adhere as per TOB given by bobby.> > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > > > bobbyusd wrote:> > Dear Anupji,> Just wanted to give a feedback. Nothing has matrialsied yet. The lead > that I had seems to have gone asleep.> With warm regards> Bobby> > astrologyandtiminge> vents ,> Bobby Mehrotra > wrote:> >> > Thankyou Sir.> > > > "Anup. M" wrote: Bobby,> > > > Your TOB is very close to both the ascendant.So assuming your TOB > both the ways,the chances are very good that you will get a job > before Dec2007.> > You may hear some good news after Aug-sept2007,and get a job in Dec > this year.> > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bobbyusd wrote:> > Dear Gurujans,> > I have been in touch with two compaies for the past few months.> > 1. With the first company, I have had a few meetings. In the last > one, > > I was vaguely offered a job in a different city, which I refused.> > > > 2. The second comapny also seems to be interested.> > > > For some reason things have just come to a standstill. I have not > heard > > from the first one and the second wants more time.> > > > Can any of the gurujans offer some advise as to what I can expect > in > > the near future?? I am a little anxious now.> > > > DoB: 14.4.62, Male> > Time: 7.20 am> > Place: Lucknow> > > > Thanking you and warm regards> > Bobby> > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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