Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Dear Sir, Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and fourums.... //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the learned people like you.... Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which suggested... //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, ask for assistance and help will be offered. If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be helpful for study.// //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned him at that time... Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.// With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a more convincing to me... Hope i will learn more and understand myself Please forgive me for putting my details here.... With regards Chandu , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Chandu, > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. Besides that, > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in your > marriage and also career. > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good. > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > Chart study and futre events > > > > Dear Group, > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > all.. > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it to > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my (still) > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > events will be highly appreciated > > 1) Complete birth data. > Myself: > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > Wife: > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > Child: Baby Girl > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars period > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also change > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > has 41 Points... > > Some past events for study > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- stored > on March-April 05. > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder people > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no communications > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes now > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > left me again > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > insights on below future events > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > happen? > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my dreams > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, financially, > and in my professional life.. > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a Techno- > commercial sales Pro.. > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > only way...? > > Appreciate your time... > > Regards > > Chann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Dear Chandu, It’s not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing some problem or the other. Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness to get answer. You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has not satisfied you. So what will? You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just so that you know. I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did see there was some issues in your chart. One thing, you might have heard this old adage, “A rolling stone gathers no moss”. So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, but something is still there that is nagging you and u can’t seem to come to terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, one astrologer to the other. In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u think this will help u find an answer. Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, 1) Download the lessons from Donna’s website at http://krushna.sageasita.com 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit all. 3) Go thought the FAQ’s and KAS Visuals on Donna’s site – She has put in a lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives of Krushnaji’s mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and effort in learning KAS. 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial to you over the long run. If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my intension. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chandu2chill Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM Re: Chart study and future events Dear Sir, Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and fourums.... //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the learned people like you.... Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which suggested... //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, ask for assistance and help will be offered. If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be helpful for study.// //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned him at that time... Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.// With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a more convincing to me... Hope i will learn more and understand myself Please forgive me for putting my details here.... With regards Chandu , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Chandu, > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. Besides that, > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in your > marriage and also career. > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good. > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > Chart study and futre events > > > > Dear Group, > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > all.. > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it to > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my (still) > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > events will be highly appreciated > > 1) Complete birth data. > Myself: > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > Wife: > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > Child: Baby Girl > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars period > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also change > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > has 41 Points... > > Some past events for study > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- stored > on March-April 05. > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder people > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no communications > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes now > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > left me again > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > insights on below future events > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > happen? > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my dreams > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, financially, > and in my professional life.. > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a Techno- > commercial sales Pro.. > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > only way...? > > Appreciate your time... > > Regards > > Chann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Dear Sir, Thank you for your invaluable advise and appreciate your time. I take this your below mail and kind advise in good-faith with due respect.. Once again thank you for your time... With regards Chandu , " ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Chandu, > > > > It's not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing > some problem or the other. > > > > Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness > to get answer. > > > > You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. > So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail > giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. > > > > You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer > based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has > not satisfied you. > > > > So what will? > > > > You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so > sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. > > > > Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling > out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time > has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just > so that you know. > > > > I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did > see there was some issues in your chart. > > > > One thing, you might have heard this old adage, " A rolling stone gathers no > moss " . So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. > > > > Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, > but something is still there that is nagging you and u can't seem to come to > terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, > one astrologer to the other. > > > > In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my > suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, > they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer > your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. > > > > Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual > persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. > > > > If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u > think this will help u find an answer. > > > > Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, > > > > 1) Download the lessons from Donna's website at http://krushna.sageasita.com > <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> > > 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending > countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit > all. > > 3) Go thought the FAQ's and KAS Visuals on Donna's site - She has put in a > lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS > > 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when > Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions > to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with > lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives > of Krushnaji's mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u > re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. > > 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not > yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for > which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons > who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down > along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. > > 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not > something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first > step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and > effort in learning KAS. > > 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of > our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u > have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank > at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from > your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. > > > > Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with > your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial > to you over the long run. > > > > If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my > intension. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill > Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > Dear Sir, > > Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i > need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that > matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future > predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish > (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable > Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my > present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that > manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and > fourums.... > > //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// > > Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still > trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i > totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with > his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the > learned people like you.... > > Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which > suggested... > > //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning > specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and > try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, > ask for assistance and help will be offered. > > If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should > furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be > helpful for study.// > > //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// > > My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli > casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is > 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka > with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 > AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned > him at that time... > > Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have > that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my > current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when > i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of > differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of > variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with > Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's > positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we > know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! > > //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All > systems are good.// > > With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior > other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a > more convincing to me... > > Hope i will learn more and understand myself > > Please forgive me for putting my details here.... > > With regards > > Chandu > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. > Besides that, > > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in > your > > marriage and also career. > > > > > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > > > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > other > > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems > are good. > > > > > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > Chandu2chill > > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Chart study and futre events > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > > all.. > > > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it > to > > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my > (still) > > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > > events will be highly appreciated > > > > 1) Complete birth data. > > Myself: > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > > Wife: > > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > > > Child: Baby Girl > > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars > period > > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also > change > > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > > has 41 Points... > > > > Some past events for study > > > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- > stored > > on March-April 05. > > > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder > people > > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no > communications > > > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes > now > > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > > left me again > > > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > > insights on below future events > > > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > > happen? > > > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my > dreams > > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, > financially, > > and in my professional life.. > > > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a > Techno- > > commercial sales Pro.. > > > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > > only way...? > > > > Appreciate your time... > > > > Regards > > > > Chann > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Dear Ash, Anup and group, For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar 59. He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 during Ra -Su. Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or is there any other reason ? I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart indicates disharmony in their married life. While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 points. Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate over him. His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them. When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 SAV points. Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who came first. Ju is also weak in 5th house. Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of child occurred in Ju antara. Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the event of 5th house. We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra "ash" <kas wrote: Dear Chandu, It’s not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing some problem or the other. Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness to get answer. You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has not satisfied you. So what will? You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just so that you know. I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did see there was some issues in your chart. One thing, you might have heard this old adage, “A rolling stone gathers no moss”. So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, but something is still there that is nagging you and u can’t seem to come to terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, one astrologer to the other. In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u think this will help u find an answer. Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, 1) Download the lessons from Donna’s website at http://krushna.sageasita.com 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit all. 3) Go thought the FAQ’s and KAS Visuals on Donna’s site – She has put in a lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives of Krushnaji’s mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and effort in learning KAS. 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial to you over the long run. If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my intension. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chandu2chillThursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM Subject: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Sir, Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and fourums....//For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.//Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the learned people like you....Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which suggested...//New members may want some advice on their charts concerning specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, ask for assistance and help will be offered.If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be helpful for study.////Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.//My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned him at that time...Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!!//All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.//With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a more convincing to me...Hope i will learn more and understand myselfPlease forgive me for putting my details here....With regardsChandu , "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear Chandu,> > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. Besides that,> your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in your> marriage and also career.> > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > 1) calculate your delay period> > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju.> > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS> > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.> > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other> system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.> > > > Happy new Year to you as well.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill> Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM> > Chart study and futre events> > > > Dear Group,> > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > all..> > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it to > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my (still) > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > events will be highly appreciated> > 1) Complete birth data.> Myself:> DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India> Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E> Wife:> DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka> Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM> > Child: Baby Girl> DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga> Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars period > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also change > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > to make proper outcome of this marriage..> > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non-> caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > has 41 Points...> > Some past events for study> > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re-stored > on March-April 05.> > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05> > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder people > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no communications> > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes now > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state...> > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > left me again> > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > insights on below future events> > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > happen?> > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when?> > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my dreams > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, financially, > and in my professional life..> > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a Techno-> commercial sales Pro.. > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > only way...?> > Appreciate your time...> > Regards> > Chann> Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Dear Ramesh, Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. Ju has the highest power and is LoE. Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to Mo. Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in blessing. Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma antra then it would break. Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will have to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points are valid. Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as well. Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this in many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a thing to me in some chat of mind some time back. You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for childbirth. Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising from Moon, Now, delay in his wife’s chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 zero. She married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very daring as well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might hurt her ego. In any case, there has been separation. Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would give separation. Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. Rectification might be required. I am out of time. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM RE: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash, Anup and group, For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar 59. He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 during Ra -Su. Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or is there any other reason ? I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart indicates disharmony in their married life. While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 points. Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate over him. His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them. When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 SAV points. Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who came first. Ju is also weak in 5th house. Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of child occurred in Ju antara. Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the event of 5th house. We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra " ash (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca " <kas wrote: Dear Chandu, It’s not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing some problem or the other. Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness to get answer. You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has not satisfied you. So what will? You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just so that you know. I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did see there was some issues in your chart. One thing, you might have heard this old adage, “A rolling stone gathers no moss”. So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, but something is still there that is nagging you and u can’t seem to come to terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, one astrologer to the other. In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u think this will help u find an answer. Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, 1) Download the lessons from Donna’s website at http://krushna.sageasita.com 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit all. 3) Go thought the FAQ’s and KAS Visuals on Donna’s site – She has put in a lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives of Krushnaji’s mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and effort in learning KAS. 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial to you over the long run. If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my intension. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chandu2chill Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM Re: Chart study and future events Dear Sir, Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and fourums.... //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the learned people like you.... Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which suggested... //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, ask for assistance and help will be offered. If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be helpful for study.// //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned him at that time... Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.// With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a more convincing to me... Hope i will learn more and understand myself Please forgive me for putting my details here.... With regards Chandu , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Chandu, > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. Besides that, > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in your > marriage and also career. > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good. > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > Chart study and futre events > > > > Dear Group, > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > all.. > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it to > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my (still) > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > events will be highly appreciated > > 1) Complete birth data. > Myself: > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > Wife: > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > Child: Baby Girl > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars period > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also change > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > has 41 Points... > > Some past events for study > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- stored > on March-April 05. > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder people > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no communications > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes now > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > left me again > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > insights on below future events > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > happen? > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my dreams > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, financially, > and in my professional life.. > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a Techno- > commercial sales Pro.. > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > only way...? > > Appreciate your time... > > Regards > > Chann > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Dear Ash and group, Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there marriage was delayed. Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980 and since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such. Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India. I did not see male chart and found the following points in female chart with an intention to validate her marriage date. 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the blessings but Ju is spoiled being in Libra. 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both. 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries. 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su. 5.Su to Ve distance is OK. She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+. What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ? Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of Sa and Ju in marriage ? If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb 1975 ) ? For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected by Ju (12th of 5th) with malefic sight. For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS. Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ? All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the result of 5th. Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th. Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house. If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for 11th. In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of child. When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed with child. The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr 2008 and till now no information of conception. Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Ramesh, Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. Ju has the highest power and is LoE. Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to Mo. Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in blessing. Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma antra then it would break. Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will have to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points are valid. Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as well. Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this in many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a thing to me in some chat of mind some time back. You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for childbirth. Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising from Moon, Now, delay in his wife’s chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 zero. She married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very daring as well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might hurt her ego. In any case, there has been separation. Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would give separation. Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. Rectification might be required. I am out of time. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishraSaturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: RE: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash, Anup and group, For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar 59. He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 during Ra -Su. Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or is there any other reason ? I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart indicates disharmony in their married life. While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 points. Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate over him. His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them. When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 SAV points. Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who came first. Ju is also weak in 5th house. Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of child occurred in Ju antara. Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the event of 5th house. We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra "ash (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kas wrote: Dear Chandu, It’s not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing some problem or the other. Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness to get answer. You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has not satisfied you. So what will? You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just so that you know. I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did see there was some issues in your chart. One thing, you might have heard this old adage, “A rolling stone gathers no moss”. So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, but something is still there that is nagging you and u can’t seem to come to terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, one astrologer to the other. In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u think this will help u find an answer. Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, 1) Download the lessons from Donna’s website at http://krushna.sageasita.com 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit all. 3) Go thought the FAQ’s and KAS Visuals on Donna’s site – She has put in a lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives of Krushnaji’s mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and effort in learning KAS. 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial to you over the long run. If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my intension. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chandu2chillThursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM Subject: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Sir, Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and fourums....//For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.//Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the learned people like you....Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which suggested...//New members may want some advice on their charts concerning specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, ask for assistance and help will be offered.If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be helpful for study.////Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.//My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned him at that time...Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!!//All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.//With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a more convincing to me...Hope i will learn more and understand myselfPlease forgive me for putting my details here....With regardsChandu , "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear Chandu,> > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. Besides that,> your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in your> marriage and also career.> > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > 1) calculate your delay period> > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju.> > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS> > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.> > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other> system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.> > > > Happy new Year to you as well.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill> Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM> > Chart study and futre events> > > > Dear Group,> > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > all..> > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it to > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my (still) > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > events will be highly appreciated> > 1) Complete birth data.> Myself:> DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India> Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E> Wife:> DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka> Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM> > Child: Baby Girl> DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga> Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars period > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also change > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > to make proper outcome of this marriage..> > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non-> caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > has 41 Points...> > Some past events for study> > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re-stored > on March-April 05.> > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05> > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder people > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no communications> > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes now > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state...> > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > left me again> > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > insights on below future events> > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > happen?> > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when?> > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my dreams > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, financially, > and in my professional life..> > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a Techno-> commercial sales Pro.. > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > only way...?> > Appreciate your time...> > Regards> > Chann> Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Dear Ramesh, One thing, back in 1958, as per that time and as per the village and social customs if a girl was married at the age of 13-15 then 22 years would be considered delay. Let me explain something. These laws given and if u keenly observe all the mails even the mail in which Krushanji solved for our Late Peterji, Krushanji had asked, what is considered normal age of marriage as per that time and in UK. Then based on that the laws of delay were applied. Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable age in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to come to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. Now in north America, people marry a bit later than India on an average, so say if early marriage is 24 then delay might be 24 + 7.5 = 31.5 or 32 years or even more if Ju is causing delay. So it’s imperative that u apply the desh, kaal paatra principle first and identify that was was the normal trend at that point in time and as per the society of some village or customs back in those days. So I hope this is clear. Now in this case, first of all the time is given as 4:00 AM. Is this accurate time? Maybe it is and Maybe it isn’t. Now, more events are not given to verify this. So to assume blindly that any time given is correct is not proper, one must verify the events. Now for practice, say you are taking this chart, then here u can see Delay. Ju is in libra, Ve in nak of sun, lagna and 9th lords in 5:9 but lagna lord itself is in libra and causing delay as well, i.e. the blessing giving one of the lord. Sa is in 5th house so again delay. So based on this there is much delay. There are also 2 zeroes. So this chart as per current age and day might give delay of say 30-32 years. Now that is based on marriageable age of 21. Now, if early marriage back in that time was say 11-14 then 22 years might be considered very delayed which would be in line. Now if marriageable age was not such then …………………. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Sunday January 6, 2008 10:02 AM RE: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash and group, Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there marriage was delayed. Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980 and since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such. Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India. I did not see male chart and found the following points in female chart with an intention to validate her marriage date. 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the blessings but Ju is spoiled being in Libra. 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both. 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries. 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su. 5.Su to Ve distance is OK. She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+. What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ? Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of Sa and Ju in marriage ? If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb 1975 ) ? For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected by Ju (12th of 5th) with malefic sight. For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS. Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ? All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the result of 5th. Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th. Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house. If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for 11th. In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of child. When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed with child. The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr 2008 and till now no information of conception. Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra " Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca " <kas wrote: Dear Ramesh, Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. Ju has the highest power and is LoE. Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to Mo. Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in blessing. Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma antra then it would break. Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will have to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points are valid. Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as well. Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this in many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a thing to me in some chat of mind some time back. You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for childbirth. Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising from Moon, Now, delay in his wife’s chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 zero. She married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very daring as well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might hurt her ego. In any case, there has been separation. Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would give separation. Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. Rectification might be required. I am out of time. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM RE: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash, Anup and group, For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar 59. He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 during Ra -Su. Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or is there any other reason ? I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart indicates disharmony in their married life. While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 points. Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate over him. His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them. When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 SAV points. Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who came first. Ju is also weak in 5th house. Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of child occurred in Ju antara. Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the event of 5th house. We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra " ash (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca " <kas wrote: Dear Chandu, It’s not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing some problem or the other. Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness to get answer. You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has not satisfied you. So what will? You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just so that you know. I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did see there was some issues in your chart. One thing, you might have heard this old adage, “A rolling stone gathers no moss”. So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, but something is still there that is nagging you and u can’t seem to come to terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, one astrologer to the other. In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u think this will help u find an answer. Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, 1) Download the lessons from Donna’s website at http://krushna.sageasita.com 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit all. 3) Go thought the FAQ’s and KAS Visuals on Donna’s site – She has put in a lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives of Krushnaji’s mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and effort in learning KAS. 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial to you over the long run. If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my intension. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chandu2chill Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM Re: Chart study and future events Dear Sir, Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and fourums.... //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the learned people like you.... Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which suggested... //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, ask for assistance and help will be offered. If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be helpful for study.// //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned him at that time... Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.// With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a more convincing to me... Hope i will learn more and understand myself Please forgive me for putting my details here.... With regards Chandu , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Chandu, > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. Besides that, > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in your > marriage and also career. > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good. > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > Chart study and futre events > > > > Dear Group, > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > all.. > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it to > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my (still) > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > events will be highly appreciated > > 1) Complete birth data. > Myself: > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > Wife: > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > Child: Baby Girl > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars period > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also change > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > has 41 Points... > > Some past events for study > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- stored > on March-April 05. > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder people > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no communications > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes now > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > left me again > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > insights on below future events > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > happen? > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my dreams > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, financially, > and in my professional life.. > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a Techno- > commercial sales Pro.. > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > only way...? > > Appreciate your time... > > Regards > > Chann > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Also ramesh say if the time was 3:56 AM then just the chart and see Navamsa. You will find that Ma and Ra both aspect 11th house. Then only 2 planets are powerful for 8th house, Ju and Mars out of which Mars is weak for 11th house. Still, we need more events to confirm all this. A good chart for practice though. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Ash's Corner Sunday January 6, 2008 12:39 PM RE: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ramesh, One thing, back in 1958, as per that time and as per the village and social customs if a girl was married at the age of 13-15 then 22 years would be considered delay. Let me explain something. These laws given and if u keenly observe all the mails even the mail in which Krushanji solved for our Late Peterji, Krushanji had asked, what is considered normal age of marriage as per that time and in UK. Then based on that the laws of delay were applied. Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable age in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to come to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. Now in north America, people marry a bit later than India on an average, so say if early marriage is 24 then delay might be 24 + 7.5 = 31.5 or 32 years or even more if Ju is causing delay. So it’s imperative that u apply the desh, kaal paatra principle first and identify that was was the normal trend at that point in time and as per the society of some village or customs back in those days. So I hope this is clear. Now in this case, first of all the time is given as 4:00 AM. Is this accurate time? Maybe it is and Maybe it isn’t. Now, more events are not given to verify this. So to assume blindly that any time given is correct is not proper, one must verify the events. Now for practice, say you are taking this chart, then here u can see Delay. Ju is in libra, Ve in nak of sun, lagna and 9th lords in 5:9 but lagna lord itself is in libra and causing delay as well, i.e. the blessing giving one of the lord. Sa is in 5th house so again delay. So based on this there is much delay. There are also 2 zeroes. So this chart as per current age and day might give delay of say 30-32 years. Now that is based on marriageable age of 21. Now, if early marriage back in that time was say 11-14 then 22 years might be considered very delayed which would be in line. Now if marriageable age was not such then …………………. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Sunday January 6, 2008 10:02 AM RE: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash and group, Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there marriage was delayed. Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980 and since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such. Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India. I did not see male chart and found the following points in female chart with an intention to validate her marriage date. 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the blessings but Ju is spoiled being in Libra. 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both. 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries. 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su. 5.Su to Ve distance is OK. She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+. What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ? Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of Sa and Ju in marriage ? If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb 1975 ) ? For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected by Ju (12th of 5th) with malefic sight. For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS. Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ? All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the result of 5th. Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th. Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house. If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for 11th. In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of child. When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed with child. The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr 2008 and till now no information of conception. Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra " Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca " <kas wrote: Dear Ramesh, Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. Ju has the highest power and is LoE. Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to Mo. Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in blessing. Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma antra then it would break. Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will have to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points are valid. Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as well. Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this in many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a thing to me in some chat of mind some time back. You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for childbirth. Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising from Moon, Now, delay in his wife’s chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 zero. She married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very daring as well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might hurt her ego. In any case, there has been separation. Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would give separation. Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. Rectification might be required. I am out of time. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM RE: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash, Anup and group, For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar 59. He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 during Ra -Su. Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or is there any other reason ? I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart indicates disharmony in their married life. While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 points. Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate over him. His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them. When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 SAV points. Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who came first. Ju is also weak in 5th house. Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of child occurred in Ju antara. Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the event of 5th house. We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra " ash (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca " <kas wrote: Dear Chandu, It’s not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing some problem or the other. Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness to get answer. You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has not satisfied you. So what will? You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just so that you know. I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did see there was some issues in your chart. One thing, you might have heard this old adage, “A rolling stone gathers no moss”. So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, but something is still there that is nagging you and u can’t seem to come to terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, one astrologer to the other. In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u think this will help u find an answer. Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, 1) Download the lessons from Donna’s website at http://krushna.sageasita.com 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit all. 3) Go thought the FAQ’s and KAS Visuals on Donna’s site – She has put in a lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives of Krushnaji’s mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and effort in learning KAS. 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial to you over the long run. If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my intension. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chandu2chill Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM Re: Chart study and future events Dear Sir, Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and fourums.... //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the learned people like you.... Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which suggested... //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, ask for assistance and help will be offered. If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be helpful for study.// //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned him at that time... Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.// With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a more convincing to me... Hope i will learn more and understand myself Please forgive me for putting my details here.... With regards Chandu , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Chandu, > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. Besides that, > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in your > marriage and also career. > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good. > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > Chart study and futre events > > > > Dear Group, > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > all.. > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it to > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my (still) > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > events will be highly appreciated > > 1) Complete birth data. > Myself: > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > Wife: > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > Child: Baby Girl > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars period > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also change > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > has 41 Points... > > Some past events for study > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- stored > on March-April 05. > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder people > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no communications > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes now > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > left me again > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > insights on below future events > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > happen? > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my dreams > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, financially, > and in my professional life.. > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a Techno- > commercial sales Pro.. > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > only way...? > > Appreciate your time... > > Regards > > Chann > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Dear Ash,Ramesh and all, Ramesh,you have explained this chart correctly for learning purpose. Regarding your question about marriage in low point planet, i think Moon and saturn are no doubt in 6:8 ratio in rasi but these tend to defuse the effect if wee see their respective ratios in navamsa as 3:11. So,might be possible this is one of the factor that the native married in Jup antra. Also,having child in Jup antra,which is weak in 5th and 10th,11th house. Jup is third strongest planet in chart.Sun was transiting in Jup nakshtra. Thats all i can understand,but still not satisfied with this. Regards Anup . ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash, Anup and group, For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar 59. He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 during Ra -Su. Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or is there any other reason ? I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart indicates disharmony in their married life. While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 points. Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate over him. His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them. When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 SAV points. Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who came first. Ju is also weak in 5th house. Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of child occurred in Ju antara. Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the event of 5th house. We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra "ash (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kas wrote: Dear Chandu, It’s not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing some problem or the other. Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness to get answer. You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has not satisfied you. So what will? You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just so that you know. I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did see there was some issues in your chart. One thing, you might have heard this old adage, “A rolling stone gathers no moss”. So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, but something is still there that is nagging you and u can’t seem to come to terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, one astrologer to the other. In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u think this will help u find an answer. Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, 1) Download the lessons from Donna’s website at http://krushna.sageasita.com 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit all. 3) Go thought the FAQ’s and KAS Visuals on Donna’s site – She has put in a lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives of Krushnaji’s mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and effort in learning KAS. 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial to you over the long run. If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my intension. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chandu2chillThursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM Subject: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Sir, Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and fourums....//For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.//Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the learned people like you....Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which suggested...//New members may want some advice on their charts concerning specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, ask for assistance and help will be offered.If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be helpful for study.////Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.//My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned him at that time...Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!!//All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.//With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a more convincing to me...Hope i will learn more and understand myselfPlease forgive me for putting my details here....With regardsChandu , "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear Chandu,> > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. Besides that,> your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in your> marriage and also career.> > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > 1) calculate your delay period> > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju.> > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS> > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.> > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other> system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.> > > > Happy new Year to you as well.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill> Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM> > Subject: Chart study and futre events> > > > Dear Group,> > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > all..> > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it to > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my (still) > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > events will be highly appreciated> > 1) Complete birth data.> Myself:> DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India> Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E> Wife:> DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka> Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM> > Child: Baby Girl> DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga> Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars period > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also change > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > to make proper outcome of this marriage..> > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non-> caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > has 41 Points...> > Some past events for study> > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re-stored > on March-April 05.> > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05> > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder people > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no communications> > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes now > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state...> > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > left me again> > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > insights on below future events> > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > happen?> > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when?> > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my dreams > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, financially, > and in my professional life..> > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a Techno-> commercial sales Pro.. > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > only way...?> > Appreciate your time...> > Regards> > Chann> Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Also in saptmasa, Jup is strongest getting 168 in worksheet. As karka, jup is not spoiled. Jup is exalted in three of the divisonal chart. Jup is in 5th house sign in saptmasa. Regards Anup Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote: Dear Ash,Ramesh and all, Ramesh,you have explained this chart correctly for learning purpose. Regarding your question about marriage in low point planet, i think Moon and saturn are no doubt in 6:8 ratio in rasi but these tend to defuse the effect if wee see their respective ratios in navamsa as 3:11. So,might be possible this is one of the factor that the native married in Jup antra. Also,having child in Jup antra,which is weak in 5th and 10th,11th house. Jup is third strongest planet in chart.Sun was transiting in Jup nakshtra. Thats all i can understand,but still not satisfied with this. Regards Anup . ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Ash, Anup and group, For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar 59. He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 during Ra -Su. Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or is there any other reason ? I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart indicates disharmony in their married life. While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 points. Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate over him. His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them. When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 SAV points. Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who came first. Ju is also weak in 5th house. Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of child occurred in Ju antara. Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the event of 5th house. We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra "ash (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kas wrote: Dear Chandu, It’s not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing some problem or the other. Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness to get answer. You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has not satisfied you. So what will? You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just so that you know. I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did see there was some issues in your chart. One thing, you might have heard this old adage, “A rolling stone gathers no moss”. So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, but something is still there that is nagging you and u can’t seem to come to terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, one astrologer to the other. In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u think this will help u find an answer. Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, 1) Download the lessons from Donna’s website at http://krushna.sageasita.com 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit all. 3) Go thought the FAQ’s and KAS Visuals on Donna’s site – She has put in a lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives of Krushnaji’s mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and effort in learning KAS. 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial to you over the long run. If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my intension. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chandu2chillThursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AMTo: Subject: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Sir, Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and fourums....//For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.//Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the learned people like you....Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which suggested...//New members may want some advice on their charts concerning specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, ask for assistance and help will be offered.If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be helpful for study.////Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.//My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned him at that time...Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!!//All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.//With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a more convincing to me...Hope i will learn more and understand myselfPlease forgive me for putting my details here....With regardsChandu , "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear Chandu,> > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. Besides that,> your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in your> marriage and also career.> > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > 1) calculate your delay period> > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju.> > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS> > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.> > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other> system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.> > > > Happy new Year to you as well.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill> Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM> > Chart study and futre events> > > > Dear Group,> > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > all..> > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it to > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my (still) > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > events will be highly appreciated> > 1) Complete birth data.> Myself:> DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India> Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E> Wife:> DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka> Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM> > Child: Baby Girl> DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga> Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars period > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also change > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > to make proper outcome of this marriage..> > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non-> caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > has 41 Points...> > Some past events for study> > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re-stored > on March-April 05.> > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05> > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder people > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no communications> > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes now > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state...> > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > left me again> > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > insights on below future events> > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > happen?> > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when?> > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my dreams > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, financially, > and in my professional life..> > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a Techno-> commercial sales Pro.. > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > only way...?> > Appreciate your time...> > Regards> > Chann> Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Dear Ramesh, Can you please elaborate on the following: “His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them.” I did not understand it well. Maybe I am missing on something. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:26 PM To: RE: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash, Anup and group, For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar 59. He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 during Ra -Su. Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or is there any other reason ? I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart indicates disharmony in their married life. While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 points. Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate over him. His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them. When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 SAV points. Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who came first. Ju is also weak in 5th house. Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of child occurred in Ju antara. Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the event of 5th house. We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra " ash " <kas wrote: Dear Chandu, It’s not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing some problem or the other. Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness to get answer. You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has not satisfied you. So what will? You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just so that you know. I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did see there was some issues in your chart. One thing, you might have heard this old adage, “A rolling stone gathers no moss”. So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, but something is still there that is nagging you and u can’t seem to come to terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, one astrologer to the other. In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u think this will help u find an answer. Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, 1) Download the lessons from Donna’s website at http://krushna.sageasita.com 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit all. 3) Go thought the FAQ’s and KAS Visuals on Donna’s site – She has put in a lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives of Krushnaji’s mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and effort in learning KAS. 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial to you over the long run. If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my intension. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chandu2chill Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM Re: Chart study and future events Dear Sir, Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and fourums.... //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the learned people like you.... Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which suggested... //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, ask for assistance and help will be offered. If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be helpful for study.// //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned him at that time... Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.// With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a more convincing to me... Hope i will learn more and understand myself Please forgive me for putting my details here.... With regards Chandu , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Chandu, > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. Besides that, > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in your > marriage and also career. > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good. > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > Chart study and futre events > > > > Dear Group, > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > all.. > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it to > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my (still) > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > events will be highly appreciated > > 1) Complete birth data. > Myself: > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > Wife: > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > Child: Baby Girl > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars period > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also change > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > has 41 Points... > > Some past events for study > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- stored > on March-April 05. > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder people > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no communications > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes now > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > left me again > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > insights on below future events > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > happen? > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my dreams > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, financially, > and in my professional life.. > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a Techno- > commercial sales Pro.. > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > only way...? > > Appreciate your time... > > Regards > > Chann > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Thanks Ash. Very useful. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of Ash's Corner Sunday, January 06, 2008 6:22 AM To: RE: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ramesh, Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. Ju has the highest power and is LoE. Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to Mo. Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in blessing. Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma antra then it would break. Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will have to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points are valid. Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as well. Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this in many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a thing to me in some chat of mind some time back. You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for childbirth. Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising from Moon, Now, delay in his wife’s chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 zero. She married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very daring as well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might hurt her ego. In any case, there has been separation. Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would give separation. Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. Rectification might be required. I am out of time. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM RE: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash, Anup and group, For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar 59. He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 during Ra -Su. Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or is there any other reason ? I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart indicates disharmony in their married life. While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 points. Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate over him. His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them. When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 SAV points. Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who came first. Ju is also weak in 5th house. Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of child occurred in Ju antara. Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the event of 5th house. We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra " ash (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca " <kas wrote: Dear Chandu, It’s not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing some problem or the other. Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness to get answer. You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has not satisfied you. So what will? You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just so that you know. I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did see there was some issues in your chart. One thing, you might have heard this old adage, “A rolling stone gathers no moss”. So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, but something is still there that is nagging you and u can’t seem to come to terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, one astrologer to the other. In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u think this will help u find an answer. Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, 1) Download the lessons from Donna’s website at http://krushna.sageasita.com 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit all. 3) Go thought the FAQ’s and KAS Visuals on Donna’s site – She has put in a lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives of Krushnaji’s mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and effort in learning KAS. 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial to you over the long run. If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my intension. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chandu2chill Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM Re: Chart study and future events Dear Sir, Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and fourums.... //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the learned people like you.... Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which suggested... //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, ask for assistance and help will be offered. If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be helpful for study.// //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned him at that time... Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.// With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a more convincing to me... Hope i will learn more and understand myself Please forgive me for putting my details here.... With regards Chandu , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Chandu, > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. Besides that, > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in your > marriage and also career. > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good. > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > Chart study and futre events > > > > Dear Group, > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > all.. > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it to > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my (still) > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > events will be highly appreciated > > 1) Complete birth data. > Myself: > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > Wife: > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > Child: Baby Girl > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars period > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also change > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > has 41 Points... > > Some past events for study > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- stored > on March-April 05. > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder people > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no communications > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes now > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > left me again > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > insights on below future events > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > happen? > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my dreams > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, financially, > and in my professional life.. > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a Techno- > commercial sales Pro.. > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > only way...? > > Appreciate your time... > > Regards > > Chann > size=1 width="100%" align=center> Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Dear Ash, In the mail to Mr. Ramesh, you quoted as below: " Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable age in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to come to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. " BUT, in the previous mails from you ( and in many of the old mails), The follwoing is stated:- " the Delay of Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before its' position in natal Chart i.e. approx 11 X 2.5 yrs = 27.5 yrs or so " " Pl clarify which satement is correct?? Thanks and Regards Sanjiva Sharma , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > One thing, back in 1958, as per that time and as per the village and social > customs if a girl was married at the age of 13-15 then 22 years would be > considered delay. > > > > Let me explain something. These laws given and if u keenly observe all the > mails even the mail in which Krushanji solved for our Late Peterji, > Krushanji had asked, what is considered normal age of marriage as per that > time and in UK. Then based on that the laws of delay were applied. > > > > Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable age > in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to come > to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. > > > > Now in north America, people marry a bit later than India on an average, so > say if early marriage is 24 then delay might be 24 + 7.5 = 31.5 or 32 years > or even more if Ju is causing delay. > > > > So it's imperative that u apply the desh, kaal paatra principle first and > identify that was was the normal trend at that point in time and as per the > society of some village or customs back in those days. > > > > So I hope this is clear. > > > > Now in this case, first of all the time is given as 4:00 AM. Is this > accurate time? Maybe it is and Maybe it isn't. > > > > Now, more events are not given to verify this. So to assume blindly that > any time given is correct is not proper, one must verify the events. > > > > Now for practice, say you are taking this chart, then here u can see Delay. > Ju is in libra, Ve in nak of sun, lagna and 9th lords in 5:9 but lagna lord > itself is in libra and causing delay as well, i.e. the blessing giving one > of the lord. Sa is in 5th house so again delay. So based on this there is > much delay. There are also 2 zeroes. > > > > So this chart as per current age and day might give delay of say 30-32 > years. Now that is based on marriageable age of 21. Now, if early marriage > back in that time was say 11-14 then 22 years might be considered very > delayed which would be in line. > > > > Now if marriageable age was not such then ........ > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of ramesh mishra > Sunday January 6, 2008 10:02 AM > > RE: Re: Chart study and future events > > > > Dear Ash and group, > > Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there > marriage was delayed. > > Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980 and > since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such. > > Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India > > Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India. > > I did not see male chart and found the following points in female chart with > an intention to validate her marriage date. > > 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the blessings > but Ju is spoiled being in Libra. > > 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both. > > 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries. > > 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su. > > 5.Su to Ve distance is OK. > > She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+. > > What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ? > > Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of Sa > and Ju in marriage ? > > If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb 1975 ) ? > > For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected by Ju > (12th of 5th) with malefic sight. > > For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS. > > Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ? > > All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the result of > 5th. > > Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th. > > Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house. > > If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for 11th. > > In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of child. > > When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed with > child. > > The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing > through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr 2008 and > till now no information of conception. > > Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ? > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > " Ash's Corner " kas wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly > happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some > temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. > > Ju has the highest power and is LoE. > > Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to Mo. > Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more > chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in blessing. > > Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma antra then > it would break. > > Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will have > to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points are > valid. > > Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as well. > Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this in > many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a thing to > me in some chat of mind some time back. > > You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for childbirth. > > > Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising from > Moon, > > Now, delay in his wife's chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 zero. She > married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it > will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very daring as > well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. > > She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might hurt > her ego. > > In any case, there has been separation. > > Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would give > separation. > > Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. > > Rectification might be required. > > I am out of time. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > _____ > > > > On Behalf Of ramesh mishra > Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM > > RE: Re: Chart study and future events > > Dear Ash, Anup and group, > > For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar > 59. > > He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. > > This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him > probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. > > There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 > during Ra -Su. > > Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. > > Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . > > Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or > is there any other reason ? > > I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being > associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. > > Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart > indicates disharmony in their married life. > > While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 > points. > > Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. > > From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. > > SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate > over him. > > His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so > the conflict is going on between them. > > When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 > SAV points. > > Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during > Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. > > Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who > came first. > > Ju is also weak in 5th house. > > Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of > child occurred in Ju antara. > > Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve > and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the > event of 5th house. > > We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve > being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? > > Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. > > I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. > > May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > " ash " kas wrote: > > Dear Chandu, > > It's not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing > some problem or the other. > > Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness > to get answer. > > You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. > So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail > giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. > > You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer > based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has > not satisfied you. > > So what will? > > You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so > sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. > > Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling > out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time > has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just > so that you know. > > I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did > see there was some issues in your chart. > > One thing, you might have heard this old adage, " A rolling stone gathers no > moss " . So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. > > Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, > but something is still there that is nagging you and u can't seem to come to > terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, > one astrologer to the other. > > In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my > suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, > they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer > your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. > > Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual > persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. > > If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u > think this will help u find an answer. > > Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, > > 1) Download the lessons from Donna's website at http://krushna. > <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> sageasita.com > > 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending > countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit > all. > > 3) Go thought the FAQ's and KAS Visuals on Donna's site - She has put in a > lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS > > 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when > Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions > to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with > lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives > of Krushnaji's mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u > re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. > > 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not > yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for > which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons > who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down > along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. > > 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not > something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first > step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and > effort in learning KAS. > > 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of > our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u > have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank > at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from > your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. > > Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with > your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial > to you over the long run. > > If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my > intension. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > _____ > > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill > Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM > > Re: Chart study and future events > > Dear Sir, > > Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i > need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that > matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future > predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish > (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable > Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my > present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that > manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and > fourums.... > > //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// > > Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still > trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i > totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with > his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the > learned people like you.... > > Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which > suggested... > > //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning > specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and > try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, > ask for assistance and help will be offered. > > If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should > furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be > helpful for study.// > > //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// > > My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli > casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is > 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka > with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 > AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned > him at that time... > > Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have > that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my > current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when > i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of > differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of > variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with > Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's > positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we > know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! > > //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All > systems are good.// > > With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior > other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a > more convincing to me... > > Hope i will learn more and understand myself > > Please forgive me for putting my details here.... > > With regards > > Chandu > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash's Corner@ " > kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. > Besides that, > > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in > your > > marriage and also career. > > > > > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > > > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > other > > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems > are good. > > > > > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > Chandu2chill > > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Chart study and futre events > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > > all.. > > > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it > to > > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my > (still) > > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > > events will be highly appreciated > > > > 1) Complete birth data. > > Myself: > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > > Wife: > > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > > > Child: Baby Girl > > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars > period > > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also > change > > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > > has 41 Points... > > > > Some past events for study > > > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- > stored > > on March-April 05. > > > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder > people > > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no > communications > > > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes > now > > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > > left me again > > > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > > insights on below future events > > > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > > happen? > > > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my > dreams > > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, > financially, > > and in my professional life.. > > > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a > Techno- > > commercial sales Pro.. > > > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > > only way...? > > > > Appreciate your time... > > > > Regards > > > > Chann > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Dear Sanjiva, Both are same thing. Legal age in India is 21 years so if Sa is 0 deg or 7.5 years delay then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 years. Hope its clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Sanjiva Sharma Tuesday January 8, 2008 1:19 AM Subject: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash, In the mail to Mr. Ramesh, you quoted as below: " Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable age in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to come to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. " BUT, in the previous mails from you ( and in many of the old mails), The follwoing is stated:- " the Delay of Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before its' position in natal Chart i.e. approx 11 X 2.5 yrs = 27.5 yrs or so " " Pl clarify which satement is correct?? Thanks and Regards Sanjiva Sharma , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > One thing, back in 1958, as per that time and as per the village and social > customs if a girl was married at the age of 13-15 then 22 years would be > considered delay. > > > > Let me explain something. These laws given and if u keenly observe all the > mails even the mail in which Krushanji solved for our Late Peterji, > Krushanji had asked, what is considered normal age of marriage as per that > time and in UK. Then based on that the laws of delay were applied. > > > > Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable age > in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to come > to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. > > > > Now in north America, people marry a bit later than India on an average, so > say if early marriage is 24 then delay might be 24 + 7.5 = 31.5 or 32 years > or even more if Ju is causing delay. > > > > So it's imperative that u apply the desh, kaal paatra principle first and > identify that was was the normal trend at that point in time and as per the > society of some village or customs back in those days. > > > > So I hope this is clear. > > > > Now in this case, first of all the time is given as 4:00 AM. Is this > accurate time? Maybe it is and Maybe it isn't. > > > > Now, more events are not given to verify this. So to assume blindly that > any time given is correct is not proper, one must verify the events. > > > > Now for practice, say you are taking this chart, then here u can see Delay. > Ju is in libra, Ve in nak of sun, lagna and 9th lords in 5:9 but lagna lord > itself is in libra and causing delay as well, i.e. the blessing giving one > of the lord. Sa is in 5th house so again delay. So based on this there is > much delay. There are also 2 zeroes. > > > > So this chart as per current age and day might give delay of say 30-32 > years. Now that is based on marriageable age of 21. Now, if early marriage > back in that time was say 11-14 then 22 years might be considered very > delayed which would be in line. > > > > Now if marriageable age was not such then ........ > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of ramesh mishra > Sunday January 6, 2008 10:02 AM > > RE: Re: Chart study and future events > > > > Dear Ash and group, > > Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there > marriage was delayed. > > Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980 and > since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such. > > Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India > > Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India. > > I did not see male chart and found the following points in female chart with > an intention to validate her marriage date. > > 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the blessings > but Ju is spoiled being in Libra. > > 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both. > > 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries. > > 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su. > > 5.Su to Ve distance is OK. > > She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+. > > What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ? > > Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of Sa > and Ju in marriage ? > > If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb 1975 ) ? > > For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected by Ju > (12th of 5th) with malefic sight. > > For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS. > > Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ? > > All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the result of > 5th. > > Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th. > > Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house. > > If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for 11th. > > In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of child. > > When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed with > child. > > The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing > through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr 2008 and > till now no information of conception. > > Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ? > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > " Ash's Corner " kas wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly > happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some > temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. > > Ju has the highest power and is LoE. > > Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to Mo. > Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more > chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in blessing. > > Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma antra then > it would break. > > Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will have > to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points are > valid. > > Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as well. > Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this in > many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a thing to > me in some chat of mind some time back. > > You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for childbirth. > > > Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising from > Moon, > > Now, delay in his wife's chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 zero. She > married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it > will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very daring as > well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. > > She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might hurt > her ego. > > In any case, there has been separation. > > Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would give > separation. > > Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. > > Rectification might be required. > > I am out of time. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > _____ > > > > On Behalf Of ramesh mishra > Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM > > RE: Re: Chart study and future events > > Dear Ash, Anup and group, > > For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar > 59. > > He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. > > This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him > probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. > > There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 > during Ra -Su. > > Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. > > Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . > > Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or > is there any other reason ? > > I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being > associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. > > Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart > indicates disharmony in their married life. > > While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 > points. > > Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. > > From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. > > SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate > over him. > > His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so > the conflict is going on between them. > > When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 > SAV points. > > Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during > Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. > > Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who > came first. > > Ju is also weak in 5th house. > > Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of > child occurred in Ju antara. > > Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve > and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the > event of 5th house. > > We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve > being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? > > Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. > > I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. > > May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > " ash " kas wrote: > > Dear Chandu, > > It's not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing > some problem or the other. > > Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness > to get answer. > > You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. > So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail > giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. > > You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer > based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has > not satisfied you. > > So what will? > > You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so > sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. > > Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling > out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time > has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just > so that you know. > > I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did > see there was some issues in your chart. > > One thing, you might have heard this old adage, " A rolling stone gathers no > moss " . So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. > > Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, > but something is still there that is nagging you and u can't seem to come to > terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, > one astrologer to the other. > > In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my > suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, > they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer > your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. > > Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual > persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. > > If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u > think this will help u find an answer. > > Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, > > 1) Download the lessons from Donna's website at http://krushna. > <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> sageasita.com > > 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending > countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit > all. > > 3) Go thought the FAQ's and KAS Visuals on Donna's site - She has put in a > lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS > > 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when > Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions > to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with > lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives > of Krushnaji's mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u > re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. > > 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not > yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for > which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons > who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down > along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. > > 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not > something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first > step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and > effort in learning KAS. > > 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of > our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u > have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank > at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from > your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. > > Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with > your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial > to you over the long run. > > If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my > intension. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > _____ > > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill > Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM > > Re: Chart study and future events > > Dear Sir, > > Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i > need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that > matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future > predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish > (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable > Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my > present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that > manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and > fourums.... > > //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// > > Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still > trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i > totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with > his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the > learned people like you.... > > Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which > suggested... > > //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning > specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and > try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, > ask for assistance and help will be offered. > > If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should > furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be > helpful for study.// > > //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// > > My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli > casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is > 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka > with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 > AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned > him at that time... > > Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have > that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my > current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when > i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of > differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of > variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with > Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's > positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we > know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! > > //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All > systems are good.// > > With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior > other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a > more convincing to me... > > Hope i will learn more and understand myself > > Please forgive me for putting my details here.... > > With regards > > Chandu > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash's Corner@ " > kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. > Besides that, > > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in > your > > marriage and also career. > > > > > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > > > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > other > > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems > are good. > > > > > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > Chandu2chill > > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Chart study and futre events > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > > all.. > > > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it > to > > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my > (still) > > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > > events will be highly appreciated > > > > 1) Complete birth data. > > Myself: > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > > Wife: > > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > > > Child: Baby Girl > > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars > period > > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also > change > > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > > has 41 Points... > > > > Some past events for study > > > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- > stored > > on March-April 05. > > > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder > people > > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no > communications > > > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes > now > > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > > left me again > > > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > > insights on below future events > > > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > > happen? > > > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my > dreams > > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, > financially, > > and in my professional life.. > > > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a > Techno- > > commercial sales Pro.. > > > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > > only way...? > > > > Appreciate your time... > > > > Regards > > > > Chann > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Dear Ash, Please, clarify the followings: 1. I think ( may not be 100 % correct) The legal age for marriage in India is - for male- 21 yrs and for girls - 18 yrs. and, as such the delay as per your calculations ( of 3 signs - 7.5 yrs) will be :- Male - 21 + 7.5 = 28.5 yrs ( not 27.5 yrs) Female - 18 + 7.5 = 25.5 yrs. This is a totally different than what is taught till now i.e. "the Delay of Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before its' position in natal Chart i.e. approx after traveling 11 signs ( when Sat is at 0 degree in the sign) i.e 11 x 2.5 = 27.5 yrs "" 2. Pl explain, the logic of " Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs ( and not 11 signs) Thanks and Regards Sanjiva Sharmaar Sanjiva,> > > > Both are same thing.> > > > Legal age in India is 21 years so if Sa is 0 deg or 7.5 years delay then 21> + 7.5 = 27.5 years.> > > > Hope its clear. > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva> Sharma> Tuesday January 8, 2008 1:19 AM> > Re: Chart study and future events> > > > > Dear Ash,> > In the mail to Mr. Ramesh, you quoted as below:> > " Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable> age in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa> to come to 0 deg of 1 sign behind."> > BUT, in the previous mails from you ( and in many of the old mails), The> follwoing is stated:-> > "the Delay of Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before> its' position in natal Chart i.e. approx 11 X 2.5 yrs = 27.5 yrs or so""> > Pl clarify which satement is correct??> > Thanks and Regards> > Sanjiva Sharma> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ,> "Ash's Corner@"> kas@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ramesh,> >> >> >> > One thing, back in 1958, as per that time and as per the village and> social> > customs if a girl was married at the age of 13-15 then 22 years would> be> > considered delay.> >> >> >> > Let me explain something. These laws given and if u keenly observe all> the> > mails even the mail in which Krushanji solved for our Late Peterji,> > Krushanji had asked, what is considered normal age of marriage as per> that> > time and in UK. Then based on that the laws of delay were applied.> >> >> >> > Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable> age> > in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to> come> > to 0 deg of 1 sign behind.> >> >> >> > Now in north America, people marry a bit later than India on an> average, so> > say if early marriage is 24 then delay might be 24 + 7.5 = 31.5 or 32> years> > or even more if Ju is causing delay.> >> >> >> > So it's imperative that u apply the desh, kaal paatra principle first> and> > identify that was was the normal trend at that point in time and as> per the> > society of some village or customs back in those days.> >> >> >> > So I hope this is clear.> >> >> >> > Now in this case, first of all the time is given as 4:00 AM. Is this> > accurate time? Maybe it is and Maybe it isn't.> >> >> >> > Now, more events are not given to verify this. So to assume blindly> that> > any time given is correct is not proper, one must verify the events.> >> >> >> > Now for practice, say you are taking this chart, then here u can see> Delay.> > Ju is in libra, Ve in nak of sun, lagna and 9th lords in 5:9 but lagna> lord> > itself is in libra and causing delay as well, i.e. the blessing giving> one> > of the lord. Sa is in 5th house so again delay. So based on this there> is> > much delay. There are also 2 zeroes.> >> >> >> > So this chart as per current age and day might give delay of say 30-32> > years. Now that is based on marriageable age of 21. Now, if early> marriage> > back in that time was say 11-14 then 22 years might be considered very> > delayed which would be in line.> >> >> >> > Now if marriageable age was not such then ........> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Cheers !!!> >> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >> > _____> >> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ]> On Behalf Of ramesh> mishra> > Sunday January 6, 2008 10:02 AM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > RE: Re: Chart study and future> events> >> >> >> > Dear Ash and group,> >> > Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there> > marriage was delayed.> >> > Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980> and> > since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such.> >> > Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India> >> > Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India.> >> > I did not see male chart and found the following points in female> chart with> > an intention to validate her marriage date.> >> > 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the> blessings> > but Ju is spoiled being in Libra.> >> > 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both.> >> > 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries.> >> > 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su.> >> > 5.Su to Ve distance is OK.> >> > She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+.> >> > What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ?> >> > Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of> Sa> > and Ju in marriage ?> >> > If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb> 1975 ) ?> >> > For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected> by Ju> > (12th of 5th) with malefic sight.> >> > For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS.> >> > Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ?> >> > All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the> result of> > 5th.> >> > Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th.> >> > Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house.> >> > If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for> 11th.> >> > In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of> child.> >> > When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed> with> > child.> >> > The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing> > through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr> 2008 and> > till now no information of conception.> >> > Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ?> >> > Thanks and regards.> >> > Ramesh Mishra> >> >> >> > "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ramesh,> >> > Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly> > happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some> > temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize.> >> > Ju has the highest power and is LoE.> >> > Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to> Mo.> > Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more> > chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in> blessing.> >> > Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma> antra then> > it would break.> >> > Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will> have> > to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points> are> > valid.> >> > Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as> well.> > Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this> in> > many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a> thing to> > me in some chat of mind some time back.> >> > You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for> childbirth.> >> >> > Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising> from> > Moon,> >> > Now, delay in his wife's chart with the data given is of Ju and 1> zero. She> > married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it> > will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very> daring as> > well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju.> >> > She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might> hurt> > her ego.> >> > In any case, there has been separation.> >> > Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would> give> > separation.> >> > Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house.> >> > Rectification might be required.> >> > I am out of time.> >> > Cheers !!!> >> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >> >> > _____> >> >> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ]> On Behalf Of ramesh> mishra> > Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > RE: Re: Chart study and future> events> >> > Dear Ash, Anup and group,> >> > For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6> Ar> > 59.> >> > He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju.> >> > This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not> help him> > probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord.> >> > There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun> 2001> > during Ra -Su.> >> > Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th> in WS.> >> > Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa .> >> > Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this> native or> > is there any other reason ?> >> > I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being> > associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance.> >> > Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart> > indicates disharmony in their married life.> >> > While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only> 20> > points.> >> > Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11.> >> > From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8.> >> > SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will> dominate> > over him.> >> > His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th> house, so> > the conflict is going on between them.> >> > When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is> with 41> > SAV points.> >> > Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or> during> > Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th.> >> > Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara> who> > came first.> >> > Ju is also weak in 5th house.> >> > Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth> of> > child occurred in Ju antara.> >> > Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However> both Ve> > and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for> the> > event of 5th house.> >> > We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace> Ve> > being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ?> >> > Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS.> >> > I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and> conception.> >> > May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ?> >> > Thanks and regards.> >> > Ramesh Mishra> >> >> >> > "ash@" kas@ wrote:> >> > Dear Chandu,> >> > It's not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone> facing> > some problem or the other.> >> > Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your> consciousness> > to get answer.> >> > You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen> that.> > So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail> > giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you.> >> > You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some> astrologer> > based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it> has> > not satisfied you.> >> > So what will?> >> > You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes> you so> > sure that any reply given here will satisfy you.> >> > Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held> spelling> > out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your> time> > has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart,> just> > so that you know.> >> > I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I> did> > see there was some issues in your chart.> >> > One thing, you might have heard this old adage, "A rolling stone> gathers no> > moss". So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you.> >> > Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given> you,> > but something is still there that is nagging you and u can't seem to> come to> > terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to> another,> > one astrologer to the other.> >> > In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but> my> > suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good> psychiatrist,> > they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or> answer> > your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it.> >> > Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some> spiritual> > persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or> liking.> >> > If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your> chart, if u> > think this will help u find an answer.> >> > Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest,> >> > 1) Download the lessons from Donna's website at http://krushna.> > <http://krushna. <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> sageasita.com/>> sageasita.com> >> > 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending> > countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will> benefit> > all.> >> > 3) Go thought the FAQ's and KAS Visuals on Donna's site - She has put> in a> > lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to> simplify KAS> >> > 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when> > Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of> questions> > to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded> with> > lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the> archives> > of Krushnaji's mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u> > re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared.> >> > 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which> is not> > yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts,> for> > which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of> persons> > who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events> down> > along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly.> >> > 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its> not> > something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the> first> > step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your> time and> > effort in learning KAS.> >> > 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a> blessing of> > our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge> u> > have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go> blank> > at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that> from> > your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort.> >> > Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal> with> > your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be> beneficial> > to you over the long run.> >> > If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my> > intension.> >> > Cheers !!!> >> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >> >> > _____> >> >> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ]> On Behalf Of> Chandu2chill> > Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > Re: Chart study and future events> >> > Dear Sir,> >> > Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i> > need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that> > matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future> > predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish> > (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable> > Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my> > present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that> > manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and> > fourums....> >> > //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.//> >> > Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still> > trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i> > totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with> > his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the> > learned people like you....> >> > Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which> > suggested...> >> > //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning> > specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and> > try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty,> > ask for assistance and help will be offered.> >> > If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should> > furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be> > helpful for study.//> >> > //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You> > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.//> >> > My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli> > casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is> > 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka> > with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47> > AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned> > him at that time...> >> > Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have> > that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my> > current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when> > i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of> > differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of> > variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with> > Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's> > positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we> > know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!!> >> > //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any> > other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All> > systems are good.//> >> > With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior> > other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a> > more convincing to me...> >> > Hope i will learn more and understand myself> >> > Please forgive me for putting my details here....> >> > With regards> >> > Chandu> >> > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > "Ash's Corner@"> > kas@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Chandu,> > >> > >> > >> > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.> > Besides that,> > > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in> > your> > > marriage and also career.> > >> > >> > >> > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as> > >> > >> > >> > > 1) calculate your delay period> > >> > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju.> > >> > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS> > >> > >> > >> > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You> > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.> > >> > >> > >> > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any> > other> > > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems> > are good.> > >> > >> > >> > > Happy new Year to you as well.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Cheers !!!> > >> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> ca/> ca>> http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> ca> > >> > > _____> > >> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > [astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > On Behalf Of> > Chandu2chill> > > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > Chart study and futre events> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Group,> > >> > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless> > > all..> > >> > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it> > to> > > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then> > > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my> > (still)> > > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e> > > events will be highly appreciated> > >> > > 1) Complete birth data.> > > Myself:> > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India> > > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E> > > Wife:> > > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka> > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > >> > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM> > >> > > Child: Baby Girl> > > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga> > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > >> > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars> > period> > > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also> > change> > > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable> > > to make proper outcome of this marriage..> > >> > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non-> > > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point> > > has 41 Points...> > >> > > Some past events for study> > >> > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005> > >> > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re-> > stored> > > on March-April 05.> > >> > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05> > >> > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder> > people> > > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no> > communications> > >> > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes> > now> > > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state...> > >> > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we> > > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she> > > left me again> > >> > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some> > > insights on below future events> > >> > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it> > > happen?> > >> > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when?> > >> > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and> > > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my> > dreams> > > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally,> > financially,> > > and in my professional life..> > >> > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a> > Techno-> > > commercial sales Pro..> > >> > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same> > > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the> > > only way...?> > >> > > Appreciate your time...> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Chann> > >> >> >> >> >> > _____> >> >> >> >> > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Dear Sanjiva, It is not different than what its taught. What I told is in different way. Take the case of Marriage in North America. Say early marriage is 24 years or considered (assumption). Say in such case, Sa is causing full delay then we must take 24 + 7.5 so 31.5 years as this will be in context of North America. If you can find the chart of our Late Peterji, Krushnaji has taken this factor into consideration when timing his marriage blindly. Even when solving some charts, I remember him asking in some places in India also, back in old times, marriage was not performed at 18 years, it might be at 11-12 years or so of age, in that case, take that as the base and then add the delay caused by Sa. Just think over what I am saying. Its not different from what has been taught, just a different perspective. This factors in desh kaal paatra principle as well. Also one more thing dear Sanjiva, my knowledge is also growing with time and with discussions with Krushnaji and based on my own practice and with Krushnaji’s guidance. So 21 + 7.5 is 27.5 years less the degree of Saturn traversed. It’s the same thing as saying 27.5 years less degree of Saturn traversed. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Sanjiva Sharma Tuesday January 8, 2008 2:28 AM Subject: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash, Please, clarify the followings: 1. I think ( may not be 100 % correct) The legal age for marriage in India is - for male- 21 yrs and for girls - 18 yrs. and, as such the delay as per your calculations ( of 3 signs - 7.5 yrs) will be :- Male - 21 + 7.5 = 28.5 yrs ( not 27.5 yrs) Female - 18 + 7.5 = 25.5 yrs. This is a totally different than what is taught till now i.e. " the Delay of Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before its' position in natal Chart i.e. approx after traveling 11 signs ( when Sat is at 0 degree in the sign) i.e 11 x 2.5 = 27.5 yrs " " 2. Pl explain, the logic of " Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs ( and not 11 signs) Thanks and Regards Sanjiva Sharma ar Sanjiva, > > > > Both are same thing. > > > > Legal age in India is 21 years so if Sa is 0 deg or 7.5 years delay then 21 > + 7.5 = 27.5 years. > > > > Hope its clear. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > Sharma > Tuesday January 8, 2008 1:19 AM > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > > Dear Ash, > > In the mail to Mr. Ramesh, you quoted as below: > > " Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable > age in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa > to come to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. " > > BUT, in the previous mails from you ( and in many of the old mails), The > follwoing is stated:- > > " the Delay of Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before > its' position in natal Chart i.e. approx 11 X 2.5 yrs = 27.5 yrs or so " " > > Pl clarify which satement is correct?? > > Thanks and Regards > > Sanjiva Sharma > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash's Corner@ " > kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > One thing, back in 1958, as per that time and as per the village and > social > > customs if a girl was married at the age of 13-15 then 22 years would > be > > considered delay. > > > > > > > > Let me explain something. These laws given and if u keenly observe all > the > > mails even the mail in which Krushanji solved for our Late Peterji, > > Krushanji had asked, what is considered normal age of marriage as per > that > > time and in UK. Then based on that the laws of delay were applied. > > > > > > > > Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable > age > > in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to > come > > to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. > > > > > > > > Now in north America, people marry a bit later than India on an > average, so > > say if early marriage is 24 then delay might be 24 + 7.5 = 31.5 or 32 > years > > or even more if Ju is causing delay. > > > > > > > > So it's imperative that u apply the desh, kaal paatra principle first > and > > identify that was was the normal trend at that point in time and as > per the > > society of some village or customs back in those days. > > > > > > > > So I hope this is clear. > > > > > > > > Now in this case, first of all the time is given as 4:00 AM. Is this > > accurate time? Maybe it is and Maybe it isn't. > > > > > > > > Now, more events are not given to verify this. So to assume blindly > that > > any time given is correct is not proper, one must verify the events. > > > > > > > > Now for practice, say you are taking this chart, then here u can see > Delay. > > Ju is in libra, Ve in nak of sun, lagna and 9th lords in 5:9 but lagna > lord > > itself is in libra and causing delay as well, i.e. the blessing giving > one > > of the lord. Sa is in 5th house so again delay. So based on this there > is > > much delay. There are also 2 zeroes. > > > > > > > > So this chart as per current age and day might give delay of say 30-32 > > years. Now that is based on marriageable age of 21. Now, if early > marriage > > back in that time was say 11-14 then 22 years might be considered very > > delayed which would be in line. > > > > > > > > Now if marriageable age was not such then ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of ramesh > mishra > > Sunday January 6, 2008 10:02 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > RE: Re: Chart study and future > events > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and group, > > > > Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there > > marriage was delayed. > > > > Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980 > and > > since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such. > > > > Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India > > > > Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India. > > > > I did not see male chart and found the following points in female > chart with > > an intention to validate her marriage date. > > > > 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the > blessings > > but Ju is spoiled being in Libra. > > > > 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both. > > > > 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries. > > > > 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su. > > > > 5.Su to Ve distance is OK. > > > > She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+. > > > > What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ? > > > > Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of > Sa > > and Ju in marriage ? > > > > If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb > 1975 ) ? > > > > For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected > by Ju > > (12th of 5th) with malefic sight. > > > > For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS. > > > > Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ? > > > > All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the > result of > > 5th. > > > > Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th. > > > > Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house. > > > > If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for > 11th. > > > > In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of > child. > > > > When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed > with > > child. > > > > The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing > > through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr > 2008 and > > till now no information of conception. > > > > Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ? > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly > > happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some > > temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. > > > > Ju has the highest power and is LoE. > > > > Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to > Mo. > > Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more > > chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in > blessing. > > > > Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma > antra then > > it would break. > > > > Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will > have > > to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points > are > > valid. > > > > Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as > well. > > Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this > in > > many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a > thing to > > me in some chat of mind some time back. > > > > You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for > childbirth. > > > > > > Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising > from > > Moon, > > > > Now, delay in his wife's chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 > zero. She > > married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it > > will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very > daring as > > well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. > > > > She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might > hurt > > her ego. > > > > In any case, there has been separation. > > > > Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would > give > > separation. > > > > Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. > > > > Rectification might be required. > > > > I am out of time. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of ramesh > mishra > > Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > RE: Re: Chart study and future > events > > > > Dear Ash, Anup and group, > > > > For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 > Ar > > 59. > > > > He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. > > > > This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not > help him > > probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. > > > > There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun > 2001 > > during Ra -Su. > > > > Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th > in WS. > > > > Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa .. > > > > Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this > native or > > is there any other reason ? > > > > I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being > > associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. > > > > Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart > > indicates disharmony in their married life. > > > > While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only > 20 > > points. > > > > Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. > > > > From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. > > > > SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will > dominate > > over him. > > > > His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th > house, so > > the conflict is going on between them. > > > > When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is > with 41 > > SAV points. > > > > Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or > during > > Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. > > > > Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara > who > > came first. > > > > Ju is also weak in 5th house. > > > > Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth > of > > child occurred in Ju antara. > > > > Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However > both Ve > > and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for > the > > event of 5th house. > > > > We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace > Ve > > being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? > > > > Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. > > > > I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and > conception. > > > > May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > " ash@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > It's not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone > facing > > some problem or the other. > > > > Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your > consciousness > > to get answer. > > > > You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen > that. > > So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail > > giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. > > > > You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some > astrologer > > based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it > has > > not satisfied you. > > > > So what will? > > > > You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes > you so > > sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. > > > > Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held > spelling > > out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your > time > > has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, > just > > so that you know. > > > > I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I > did > > see there was some issues in your chart. > > > > One thing, you might have heard this old adage, " A rolling stone > gathers no > > moss " . So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. > > > > Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given > you, > > but something is still there that is nagging you and u can't seem to > come to > > terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to > another, > > one astrologer to the other. > > > > In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but > my > > suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good > psychiatrist, > > they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or > answer > > your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. > > > > Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some > spiritual > > persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or > liking. > > > > If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your > chart, if u > > think this will help u find an answer. > > > > Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, > > > > 1) Download the lessons from Donna's website at http://krushna. > > <http://krushna. <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> sageasita.com/> > sageasita.com > > > > 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending > > countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will > benefit > > all. > > > > 3) Go thought the FAQ's and KAS Visuals on Donna's site - She has put > in a > > lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to > simplify KAS > > > > 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when > > Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of > questions > > to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded > with > > lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the > archives > > of Krushnaji's mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u > > re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. > > > > 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which > is not > > yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, > for > > which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of > persons > > who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events > down > > along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. > > > > 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its > not > > something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the > first > > step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your > time and > > effort in learning KAS. > > > > 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a > blessing of > > our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge > u > > have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go > blank > > at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that > from > > your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. > > > > Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal > with > > your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be > beneficial > > to you over the long run. > > > > If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my > > intension. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > Chandu2chill > > Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i > > need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that > > matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future > > predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish > > (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable > > Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my > > present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that > > manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and > > fourums.... > > > > //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// > > > > Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still > > trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i > > totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with > > his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the > > learned people like you.... > > > > Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which > > suggested... > > > > //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning > > specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and > > try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, > > ask for assistance and help will be offered. > > > > If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should > > furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be > > helpful for study.// > > > > //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// > > > > My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli > > casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is > > 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka > > with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 > > AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned > > him at that time... > > > > Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have > > that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my > > current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when > > i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of > > differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of > > variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with > > Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's > > positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we > > know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! > > > > //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > > other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All > > systems are good.// > > > > With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior > > other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a > > more convincing to me... > > > > Hope i will learn more and understand myself > > > > Please forgive me for putting my details here.... > > > > With regards > > > > Chandu > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash's Corner@ " > > kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > > > > > > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. > > Besides that, > > > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in > > your > > > marriage and also career. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > > > > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > > > > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > > > > > > > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > > other > > > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems > > are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of > > Chandu2chill > > > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > Chart study and futre events > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > > > all.. > > > > > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it > > to > > > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > > > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my > > (still) > > > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > > > events will be highly appreciated > > > > > > 1) Complete birth data. > > > Myself: > > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > > > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > > > Wife: > > > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > > > > > Child: Baby Girl > > > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars > > period > > > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also > > change > > > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > > > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > > > > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > > > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > > > has 41 Points... > > > > > > Some past events for study > > > > > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > > > > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- > > stored > > > on March-April 05. > > > > > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > > > > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder > > people > > > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no > > communications > > > > > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes > > now > > > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > > > > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > > > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > > > left me again > > > > > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > > > insights on below future events > > > > > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > > > happen? > > > > > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > > > > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > > > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my > > dreams > > > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, > > financially, > > > and in my professional life.. > > > > > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a > > Techno- > > > commercial sales Pro.. > > > > > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > > > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > > > only way...? > > > > > > Appreciate your time... > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Chann > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Dear Krushanji and Sanjiva, Oh I think I got it what you are asking or where there is a difference. 27.5 years is 1 round of Saturn – 1 sign to encompass 21 + 7.5 years. So here we take the “base” as birth time or 0 years + 27.5 or if u take base as “21” + 3 signs of Saturn = 7.5 so 27.5 7.5 years is taken from the “base” of legal age or early age of marriage. So the starting point is different. That is why, in some customs say if a person is married at 24 or so i.e. girls then its considered very delayed if the base or early marriage is at say 12-15 years then 22 might be considered delayed. This u might come across in very old charts where marriages at that time were held very early in life and that time even life expectancy was low. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Sanjiva Sharma Tuesday January 8, 2008 2:28 AM Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash, Please, clarify the followings: 1. I think ( may not be 100 % correct) The legal age for marriage in India is - for male- 21 yrs and for girls - 18 yrs. and, as such the delay as per your calculations ( of 3 signs - 7.5 yrs) will be :- Male - 21 + 7.5 = 28.5 yrs ( not 27.5 yrs) Female - 18 + 7.5 = 25.5 yrs. This is a totally different than what is taught till now i.e. " the Delay of Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before its' position in natal Chart i.e. approx after traveling 11 signs ( when Sat is at 0 degree in the sign) i.e 11 x 2.5 = 27.5 yrs " " 2. Pl explain, the logic of " Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs ( and not 11 signs) Thanks and Regards Sanjiva Sharma ar Sanjiva, > > > > Both are same thing. > > > > Legal age in India is 21 years so if Sa is 0 deg or 7.5 years delay then 21 > + 7.5 = 27.5 years. > > > > Hope its clear. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > Sharma > Tuesday January 8, 2008 1:19 AM > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > > Dear Ash, > > In the mail to Mr. Ramesh, you quoted as below: > > " Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable > age in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa > to come to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. " > > BUT, in the previous mails from you ( and in many of the old mails), The > follwoing is stated:- > > " the Delay of Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before > its' position in natal Chart i.e. approx 11 X 2.5 yrs = 27.5 yrs or so " " > > Pl clarify which satement is correct?? > > Thanks and Regards > > Sanjiva Sharma > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash's Corner@ " > kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > One thing, back in 1958, as per that time and as per the village and > social > > customs if a girl was married at the age of 13-15 then 22 years would > be > > considered delay. > > > > > > > > Let me explain something. These laws given and if u keenly observe all > the > > mails even the mail in which Krushanji solved for our Late Peterji, > > Krushanji had asked, what is considered normal age of marriage as per > that > > time and in UK. Then based on that the laws of delay were applied. > > > > > > > > Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable > age > > in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to > come > > to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. > > > > > > > > Now in north America, people marry a bit later than India on an > average, so > > say if early marriage is 24 then delay might be 24 + 7.5 = 31.5 or 32 > years > > or even more if Ju is causing delay. > > > > > > > > So it's imperative that u apply the desh, kaal paatra principle first > and > > identify that was was the normal trend at that point in time and as > per the > > society of some village or customs back in those days. > > > > > > > > So I hope this is clear. > > > > > > > > Now in this case, first of all the time is given as 4:00 AM. Is this > > accurate time? Maybe it is and Maybe it isn't. > > > > > > > > Now, more events are not given to verify this. So to assume blindly > that > > any time given is correct is not proper, one must verify the events. > > > > > > > > Now for practice, say you are taking this chart, then here u can see > Delay. > > Ju is in libra, Ve in nak of sun, lagna and 9th lords in 5:9 but lagna > lord > > itself is in libra and causing delay as well, i.e. the blessing giving > one > > of the lord. Sa is in 5th house so again delay. So based on this there > is > > much delay. There are also 2 zeroes. > > > > > > > > So this chart as per current age and day might give delay of say 30-32 > > years. Now that is based on marriageable age of 21. Now, if early > marriage > > back in that time was say 11-14 then 22 years might be considered very > > delayed which would be in line. > > > > > > > > Now if marriageable age was not such then ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of ramesh > mishra > > Sunday January 6, 2008 10:02 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > RE: Re: Chart study and future > events > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and group, > > > > Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there > > marriage was delayed. > > > > Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980 > and > > since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such. > > > > Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India > > > > Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India. > > > > I did not see male chart and found the following points in female > chart with > > an intention to validate her marriage date. > > > > 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the > blessings > > but Ju is spoiled being in Libra. > > > > 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both. > > > > 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries. > > > > 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su. > > > > 5.Su to Ve distance is OK. > > > > She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+. > > > > What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ? > > > > Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of > Sa > > and Ju in marriage ? > > > > If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb > 1975 ) ? > > > > For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected > by Ju > > (12th of 5th) with malefic sight. > > > > For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS. > > > > Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ? > > > > All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the > result of > > 5th. > > > > Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th. > > > > Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house. > > > > If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for > 11th. > > > > In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of > child. > > > > When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed > with > > child. > > > > The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing > > through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr > 2008 and > > till now no information of conception. > > > > Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ? > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly > > happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some > > temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. > > > > Ju has the highest power and is LoE. > > > > Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to > Mo. > > Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more > > chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in > blessing. > > > > Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma > antra then > > it would break. > > > > Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will > have > > to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points > are > > valid. > > > > Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as > well. > > Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this > in > > many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a > thing to > > me in some chat of mind some time back. > > > > You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for > childbirth. > > > > > > Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising > from > > Moon, > > > > Now, delay in his wife's chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 > zero. She > > married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it > > will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very > daring as > > well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. > > > > She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might > hurt > > her ego. > > > > In any case, there has been separation. > > > > Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would > give > > separation. > > > > Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. > > > > Rectification might be required. > > > > I am out of time. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of ramesh > mishra > > Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > RE: Re: Chart study and future > events > > > > Dear Ash, Anup and group, > > > > For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 > Ar > > 59. > > > > He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. > > > > This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not > help him > > probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. > > > > There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun > 2001 > > during Ra -Su. > > > > Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th > in WS. > > > > Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa .. > > > > Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this > native or > > is there any other reason ? > > > > I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being > > associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. > > > > Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart > > indicates disharmony in their married life. > > > > While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only > 20 > > points. > > > > Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. > > > > From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. > > > > SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will > dominate > > over him. > > > > His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th > house, so > > the conflict is going on between them. > > > > When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is > with 41 > > SAV points. > > > > Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or > during > > Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. > > > > Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara > who > > came first. > > > > Ju is also weak in 5th house. > > > > Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth > of > > child occurred in Ju antara. > > > > Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However > both Ve > > and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for > the > > event of 5th house. > > > > We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace > Ve > > being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? > > > > Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. > > > > I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and > conception. > > > > May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > " ash@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > It's not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone > facing > > some problem or the other. > > > > Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your > consciousness > > to get answer. > > > > You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen > that. > > So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail > > giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. > > > > You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some > astrologer > > based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it > has > > not satisfied you. > > > > So what will? > > > > You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes > you so > > sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. > > > > Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held > spelling > > out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your > time > > has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, > just > > so that you know. > > > > I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I > did > > see there was some issues in your chart. > > > > One thing, you might have heard this old adage, " A rolling stone > gathers no > > moss " . So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. > > > > Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given > you, > > but something is still there that is nagging you and u can't seem to > come to > > terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to > another, > > one astrologer to the other. > > > > In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but > my > > suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good > psychiatrist, > > they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or > answer > > your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. > > > > Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some > spiritual > > persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or > liking. > > > > If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your > chart, if u > > think this will help u find an answer. > > > > Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, > > > > 1) Download the lessons from Donna's website at http://krushna. > > <http://krushna. <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> sageasita.com/> > sageasita.com > > > > 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending > > countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will > benefit > > all. > > > > 3) Go thought the FAQ's and KAS Visuals on Donna's site - She has put > in a > > lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to > simplify KAS > > > > 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when > > Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of > questions > > to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded > with > > lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the > archives > > of Krushnaji's mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u > > re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. > > > > 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which > is not > > yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, > for > > which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of > persons > > who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events > down > > along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. > > > > 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its > not > > something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the > first > > step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your > time and > > effort in learning KAS. > > > > 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a > blessing of > > our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge > u > > have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go > blank > > at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that > from > > your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. > > > > Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal > with > > your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be > beneficial > > to you over the long run. > > > > If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my > > intension. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > Chandu2chill > > Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i > > need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that > > matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future > > predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish > > (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable > > Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my > > present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that > > manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and > > fourums.... > > > > //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// > > > > Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still > > trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i > > totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with > > his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the > > learned people like you.... > > > > Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which > > suggested... > > > > //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning > > specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and > > try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, > > ask for assistance and help will be offered. > > > > If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should > > furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be > > helpful for study.// > > > > //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// > > > > My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli > > casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is > > 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka > > with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 > > AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned > > him at that time... > > > > Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have > > that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my > > current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when > > i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of > > differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of > > variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with > > Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's > > positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we > > know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! > > > > //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > > other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All > > systems are good.// > > > > With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior > > other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a > > more convincing to me... > > > > Hope i will learn more and understand myself > > > > Please forgive me for putting my details here.... > > > > With regards > > > > Chandu > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash's Corner@ " > > kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > > > > > > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. > > Besides that, > > > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in > > your > > > marriage and also career. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > > > > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > > > > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > > > > > > > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > > other > > > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems > > are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > ca/> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of > > Chandu2chill > > > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > Chart study and futre events > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > > > all.. > > > > > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it > > to > > > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > > > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my > > (still) > > > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > > > events will be highly appreciated > > > > > > 1) Complete birth data. > > > Myself: > > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > > > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > > > Wife: > > > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > > > > > Child: Baby Girl > > > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars > > period > > > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also > > change > > > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > > > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > > > > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > > > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > > > has 41 Points... > > > > > > Some past events for study > > > > > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > > > > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- > > stored > > > on March-April 05. > > > > > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > > > > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder > > people > > > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no > > communications > > > > > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes > > now > > > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > > > > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > > > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > > > left me again > > > > > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > > > insights on below future events > > > > > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > > > happen? > > > > > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > > > > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > > > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my > > dreams > > > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, > > financially, > > > and in my professional life.. > > > > > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a > > Techno- > > > commercial sales Pro.. > > > > > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > > > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > > > only way...? > > > > > > Appreciate your time... > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Chann > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Ash Please, refer to your message no - 8741. You were analysing the chart with following details. DOB 28-07-1975 Time 9:50 Am Place Patiala ( 30N 19 , 76 E 24) -5:30 IST In "TECHNICAL ANALYSIS, you stated that: Technical Analysis.1) Here Shani is the delay causing planet. Shani is in House C, Itaspects Guru who is LoB and Shani aspects Venus in navamsa who isLoA.2) So all primary significator house/lords is affected by Shani.3) Shani is at 1 degree 30 in Cancer. So delay due to Shani is 27years 5 months or so.4) No other planet is delay causing.5) Check if any special criteria is there that can check the delay orcause an early marriage. i.e say blessing of father/guru (in India)or Guru's check on Shani. Here Guru does not aspect Shani in neitherRasi or Navamsa. However Shani is in nakshtra of Guru ???Lagna and 9th lords or Ketu and Mercury are not in 5:9 in rasi ornavamsa.6) I am assuming that there is a reason that delay of Shani ischecked for some reason this is based on the answer as the marriagehappened on 20th August 2000.7) Delay due to Shani is 27 years 5 months and check due to Guru (Sain nak of Guru) so (27.4 + 21) / 2 = 24.25.So marriage will be after 24.2 years. NOW my point is that, in all previous discussions - the delay by Sat was revolved around 27.5 yrs ( i.e. time taken by Sat to arrive @ sign , -One sign earlier than Natal sign). It has never been - for a delay of 3 signs( 7.5 years). Pl explain the reasoning of " delay of 3 signs ( 7.5 years)" by Sat and it's logic, if any. Thanks and regards Sanjiva Sharma , "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear Krushanji and Sanjiva,> > > > Oh I think I got it what you are asking or where there is a difference.> > > > 27.5 years is 1 round of Saturn - 1 sign to encompass 21 + 7.5 years. So> here we take the "base" as birth time or 0 years + 27.5 or if u take base as> "21" + 3 signs of Saturn = 7.5 so 27.5> > > > 7.5 years is taken from the "base" of legal age or early age of marriage.> > > > So the starting point is different. > > > > That is why, in some customs say if a person is married at 24 or so i.e.> girls then its considered very delayed if the base or early marriage is at> say 12-15 years then 22 might be considered delayed. This u might come> across in very old charts where marriages at that time were held very early> in life and that time even life expectancy was low.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva> Sharma> Tuesday January 8, 2008 2:28 AM> > Re: Chart study and future events> > > > Dear Ash,> > Please, clarify the followings:> > 1. I think ( may not be 100 % correct) The legal age for marriage in India> is - for male- 21 yrs and for girls - 18 yrs.> > and, as such the delay as per your calculations ( of 3 signs - 7.5 yrs)> will be :- > > Male - 21 + 7.5 = 28.5 yrs ( not> 27.5 yrs)> > Female - 18 + 7.5 = 25.5 yrs.> > This is a totally different than what is taught till now i.e. "the Delay of> Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before its' position in> natal Chart i.e. approx after traveling 11 signs ( when Sat is at 0 degree> in the sign) i.e 11 x 2.5 = 27.5 yrs ""> > 2. Pl explain, the logic of " Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3> signs ( and not 11 signs)> > Thanks and Regards> > Sanjiva Sharma> > > > ar Sanjiva,> > > > > > > > Both are same thing.> > > > > > > > Legal age in India is 21 years so if Sa is 0 deg or 7.5 years delay then> 21> > + 7.5 = 27.5 years.> > > > > > > > Hope its clear. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva> > Sharma> > Tuesday January 8, 2008 1:19 AM> > > > Re: Chart study and future events> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > In the mail to Mr. Ramesh, you quoted as below:> > > > " Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable> > age in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa> > to come to 0 deg of 1 sign behind."> > > > BUT, in the previous mails from you ( and in many of the old mails), The> > follwoing is stated:-> > > > "the Delay of Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before> > its' position in natal Chart i.e. approx 11 X 2.5 yrs = 27.5 yrs or so""> > > > Pl clarify which satement is correct??> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > Sanjiva Sharma> > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents ,> > "Ash's Corner@"> > kas@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ramesh,> > >> > >> > >> > > One thing, back in 1958, as per that time and as per the village and> > social> > > customs if a girl was married at the age of 13-15 then 22 years would> > be> > > considered delay.> > >> > >> > >> > > Let me explain something. These laws given and if u keenly observe all> > the> > > mails even the mail in which Krushanji solved for our Late Peterji,> > > Krushanji had asked, what is considered normal age of marriage as per> > that> > > time and in UK. Then based on that the laws of delay were applied.> > >> > >> > >> > > Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable> > age> > > in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to> > come> > > to 0 deg of 1 sign behind.> > >> > >> > >> > > Now in north America, people marry a bit later than India on an> > average, so> > > say if early marriage is 24 then delay might be 24 + 7.5 = 31.5 or 32> > years> > > or even more if Ju is causing delay.> > >> > >> > >> > > So it's imperative that u apply the desh, kaal paatra principle first> > and> > > identify that was was the normal trend at that point in time and as> > per the> > > society of some village or customs back in those days.> > >> > >> > >> > > So I hope this is clear.> > >> > >> > >> > > Now in this case, first of all the time is given as 4:00 AM. Is this> > > accurate time? Maybe it is and Maybe it isn't.> > >> > >> > >> > > Now, more events are not given to verify this. So to assume blindly> > that> > > any time given is correct is not proper, one must verify the events.> > >> > >> > >> > > Now for practice, say you are taking this chart, then here u can see> > Delay.> > > Ju is in libra, Ve in nak of sun, lagna and 9th lords in 5:9 but lagna> > lord> > > itself is in libra and causing delay as well, i.e. the blessing giving> > one> > > of the lord. Sa is in 5th house so again delay. So based on this there> > is> > > much delay. There are also 2 zeroes.> > >> > >> > >> > > So this chart as per current age and day might give delay of say 30-32> > > years. Now that is based on marriageable age of 21. Now, if early> > marriage> > > back in that time was say 11-14 then 22 years might be considered very> > > delayed which would be in line.> > >> > >> > >> > > Now if marriageable age was not such then ........> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Cheers !!!> > >> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >> > > _____> > >> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents ]> > On Behalf Of ramesh> > mishra> > > Sunday January 6, 2008 10:02 AM> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: Chart study and future> > events> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Ash and group,> > >> > > Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there> > > marriage was delayed.> > >> > > Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980> > and> > > since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such.> > >> > > Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India> > >> > > Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India.> > >> > > I did not see male chart and found the following points in female> > chart with> > > an intention to validate her marriage date.> > >> > > 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the> > blessings> > > but Ju is spoiled being in Libra.> > >> > > 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both.> > >> > > 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries.> > >> > > 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su.> > >> > > 5.Su to Ve distance is OK.> > >> > > She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+.> > >> > > What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ?> > >> > > Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of> > Sa> > > and Ju in marriage ?> > >> > > If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb> > 1975 ) ?> > >> > > For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected> > by Ju> > > (12th of 5th) with malefic sight.> > >> > > For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS.> > >> > > Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ?> > >> > > All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the> > result of> > > 5th.> > >> > > Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th.> > >> > > Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house.> > >> > > If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for> > 11th.> > >> > > In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of> > child.> > >> > > When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed> > with> > > child.> > >> > > The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing> > > through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr> > 2008 and> > > till now no information of conception.> > >> > > Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ?> > >> > > Thanks and regards.> > >> > > Ramesh Mishra> > >> > >> > >> > > "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ramesh,> > >> > > Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly> > > happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some> > > temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize.> > >> > > Ju has the highest power and is LoE.> > >> > > Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to> > Mo.> > > Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more> > > chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in> > blessing.> > >> > > Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma> > antra then> > > it would break.> > >> > > Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will> > have> > > to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points> > are> > > valid.> > >> > > Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as> > well.> > > Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this> > in> > > many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a> > thing to> > > me in some chat of mind some time back.> > >> > > You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for> > childbirth.> > >> > >> > > Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising> > from> > > Moon,> > >> > > Now, delay in his wife's chart with the data given is of Ju and 1> > zero. She> > > married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it> > > will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very> > daring as> > > well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju.> > >> > > She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might> > hurt> > > her ego.> > >> > > In any case, there has been separation.> > >> > > Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would> > give> > > separation.> > >> > > Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house.> > >> > > Rectification might be required.> > >> > > I am out of time.> > >> > > Cheers !!!> > >> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>> http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > >> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents ]> > On Behalf Of ramesh> > mishra> > > Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: Chart study and future> > events> > >> > > Dear Ash, Anup and group,> > >> > > For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6> > Ar> > > 59.> > >> > > He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju.> > >> > > This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not> > help him> > > probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord.> > >> > > There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun> > 2001> > > during Ra -Su.> > >> > > Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th> > in WS.> > >> > > Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa .> > >> > > Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this> > native or> > > is there any other reason ?> > >> > > I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being> > > associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance.> > >> > > Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart> > > indicates disharmony in their married life.> > >> > > While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only> > 20> > > points.> > >> > > Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11.> > >> > > From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8.> > >> > > SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will> > dominate> > > over him.> > >> > > His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th> > house, so> > > the conflict is going on between them.> > >> > > When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is> > with 41> > > SAV points.> > >> > > Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or> > during> > > Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th.> > >> > > Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara> > who> > > came first.> > >> > > Ju is also weak in 5th house.> > >> > > Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth> > of> > > child occurred in Ju antara.> > >> > > Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However> > both Ve> > > and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for> > the> > > event of 5th house.> > >> > > We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace> > Ve> > > being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ?> > >> > > Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS.> > >> > > I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and> > conception.> > >> > > May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ?> > >> > > Thanks and regards.> > >> > > Ramesh Mishra> > >> > >> > >> > > "ash@" kas@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Chandu,> > >> > > It's not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone> > facing> > > some problem or the other.> > >> > > Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your> > consciousness> > > to get answer.> > >> > > You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen> > that.> > > So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail> > > giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you.> > >> > > You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some> > astrologer> > > based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it> > has> > > not satisfied you.> > >> > > So what will?> > >> > > You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes> > you so> > > sure that any reply given here will satisfy you.> > >> > > Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held> > spelling> > > out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your> > time> > > has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart,> > just> > > so that you know.> > >> > > I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I> > did> > > see there was some issues in your chart.> > >> > > One thing, you might have heard this old adage, "A rolling stone> > gathers no> > > moss". So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you.> > >> > > Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given> > you,> > > but something is still there that is nagging you and u can't seem to> > come to> > > terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to> > another,> > > one astrologer to the other.> > >> > > In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but> > my> > > suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good> > psychiatrist,> > > they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or> > answer> > > your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it.> > >> > > Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some> > spiritual> > > persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or> > liking.> > >> > > If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your> > chart, if u> > > think this will help u find an answer.> > >> > > Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest,> > >> > > 1) Download the lessons from Donna's website at http://krushna.> > > <http://krushna. <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> sageasita.com/>> > sageasita.com> > >> > > 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending> > > countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will> > benefit> > > all.> > >> > > 3) Go thought the FAQ's and KAS Visuals on Donna's site - She has put> > in a> > > lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to> > simplify KAS> > >> > > 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when> > > Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of> > questions> > > to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded> > with> > > lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the> > archives> > > of Krushnaji's mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u> > > re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared.> > >> > > 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which> > is not> > > yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts,> > for> > > which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of> > persons> > > who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events> > down> > > along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly.> > >> > > 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its> > not> > > something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the> > first> > > step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your> > time and> > > effort in learning KAS.> > >> > > 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a> > blessing of> > > our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge> > u> > > have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go> > blank> > > at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that> > from> > > your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort.> > >> > > Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal> > with> > > your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be> > beneficial> > > to you over the long run.> > >> > > If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my> > > intension.> > >> > > Cheers !!!> > >> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>> http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > >> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents ]> > On Behalf Of> > Chandu2chill> > > Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents > > > Re: Chart study and future events> > >> > > Dear Sir,> > >> > > Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i> > > need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that> > > matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future> > > predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish> > > (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable> > > Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my> > > present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that> > > manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and> > > fourums....> > >> > > //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.//> > >> > > Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still> > > trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i> > > totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with> > > his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the> > > learned people like you....> > >> > > Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which> > > suggested...> > >> > > //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning> > > specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and> > > try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty,> > > ask for assistance and help will be offered.> > >> > > If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should> > > furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be> > > helpful for study.//> > >> > > //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You> > > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.//> > >> > > My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli> > > casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is> > > 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka> > > with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47> > > AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned> > > him at that time...> > >> > > Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have> > > that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my> > > current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when> > > i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of> > > differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of> > > variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with> > > Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's> > > positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we> > > know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!!> > >> > > //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any> > > other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All> > > systems are good.//> > >> > > With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior> > > other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a> > > more convincing to me...> > >> > > Hope i will learn more and understand myself> > >> > > Please forgive me for putting my details here....> > >> > > With regards> > >> > > Chandu> > >> > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > "Ash's Corner@"> > > kas@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Chandu,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.> > > Besides that,> > > > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in> > > your> > > > marriage and also career.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1) calculate your delay period> > > >> > > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju.> > > >> > > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You> > > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any> > > other> > > > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems> > > are good.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Happy new Year to you as well.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Cheers !!!> > > >> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > ca/> ca>> > http://www.ashtro.> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> ca> > > >> > > > _____> > > >> > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > On Behalf Of> > > Chandu2chill> > > > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM> > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > Chart study and futre events> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Group,> > > >> > > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless> > > > all..> > > >> > > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it> > > to> > > > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then> > > > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my> > > (still)> > > > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e> > > > events will be highly appreciated> > > >> > > > 1) Complete birth data.> > > > Myself:> > > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India> > > > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E> > > > Wife:> > > > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka> > > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > > >> > > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM> > > >> > > > Child: Baby Girl> > > > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga> > > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > > >> > > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars> > > period> > > > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also> > > change> > > > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable> > > > to make proper outcome of this marriage..> > > >> > > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non-> > > > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point> > > > has 41 Points...> > > >> > > > Some past events for study> > > >> > > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005> > > >> > > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re-> > > stored> > > > on March-April 05.> > > >> > > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05> > > >> > > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder> > > people> > > > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no> > > communications> > > >> > > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes> > > now> > > > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state...> > > >> > > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we> > > > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she> > > > left me again> > > >> > > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some> > > > insights on below future events> > > >> > > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it> > > > happen?> > > >> > > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when?> > > >> > > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and> > > > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my> > > dreams> > > > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally,> > > financially,> > > > and in my professional life..> > > >> > > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a> > > Techno-> > > > commercial sales Pro..> > > >> > > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same> > > > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the> > > > only way...?> > > >> > > > Appreciate your time...> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > Chann> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Manu, Me is third lord and Mo is fourth so relationship between third and fourth lord. Same way Su and Ma relation is between first and fifth. That is what I tried to put it through. I have read it somewhere either in archives or in lesson. I tried to find it out for quotation, couldnot find. But I am sure. Thanks. Ramesh MishraManu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Ramesh, Can you please elaborate on the following: “His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them.” I did not understand it well. Maybe I am missing on something. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of ramesh mishraSaturday, January 05, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash, Anup and group, For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar 59. He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 during Ra -Su. Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or is there any other reason ? I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart indicates disharmony in their married life. While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 points. Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate over him. His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them. When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 SAV points. Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who came first. Ju is also weak in 5th house. Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of child occurred in Ju antara. Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the event of 5th house. We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra "ash" <kas wrote: Dear Chandu, It’s not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing some problem or the other. Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness to get answer. You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has not satisfied you. So what will? You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just so that you know. I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did see there was some issues in your chart. One thing, you might have heard this old adage, “A rolling stone gathers no moss”. So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, but something is still there that is nagging you and u can’t seem to come to terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, one astrologer to the other. In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u think this will help u find an answer. Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, 1) Download the lessons from Donna’s website at http://krushna.sageasita.com 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit all. 3) Go thought the FAQ’s and KAS Visuals on Donna’s site – She has put in a lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives of Krushnaji’s mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and effort in learning KAS. 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial to you over the long run. If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my intension. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chandu2chillThursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM Subject: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Sir, Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and fourums....//For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.//Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the learned people like you....Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which suggested...//New members may want some advice on their charts concerning specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, ask for assistance and help will be offered.If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be helpful for study.////Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.//My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned him at that time...Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!!//All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.//With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a more convincing to me...Hope i will learn more and understand myselfPlease forgive me for putting my details here....With regardsChandu , "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear Chandu,> > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. Besides that,> your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in your> marriage and also career.> > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > 1) calculate your delay period> > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju.> > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS> > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.> > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other> system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.> > > > Happy new Year to you as well.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill> Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM> > Chart study and futre events> > > > Dear Group,> > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > all..> > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it to > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my (still) > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > events will be highly appreciated> > 1) Complete birth data.> Myself:> DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India> Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E> Wife:> DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka> Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM> > Child: Baby Girl> DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga> Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E,> > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars period > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also change > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > to make proper outcome of this marriage..> > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non-> caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > has 41 Points...> > Some past events for study> > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re-stored > on March-April 05.> > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05> > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder people > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no communications> > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes now > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state...> > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > left me again> > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > insights on below future events> > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > happen?> > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when?> > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my dreams > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, financially, > and in my professional life..> > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a Techno-> commercial sales Pro.. > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > only way...?> > Appreciate your time...> > Regards> > Chann> Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Sanjiva, The delay is not 7.5 years but 27.5 years less degrees traversed by Sa in the sign. Just read my mail. Please avoid confusion. Just consider what is taught in lessons. Leave this portion that I told just now. I think it will confuse everyone. In this chart analysis, I am still not sure why there was reduction of delay and that is the first line I have asked Krushnaji. In this chart I took delay to be 1 sign previous to natal position of Saturn and did my calculations based on that. Just ignore this thing that I have told about 7.5 years, to avoid any confusion and please use it the way Krushnaji has given in Lessons. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Sanjiva Sharma Tuesday January 8, 2008 3:45 AM Subject: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash Please, refer to your message no - 8741. You were analysing the chart with following details. DOB 28-07-1975 Time 9:50 Am Place Patiala ( 30N 19 , 76 E 24) -5:30 IST In " TECHNICAL ANALYSIS, you stated that: Technical Analysis. 1) Here Shani is the delay causing planet. Shani is in House C, It aspects Guru who is LoB and Shani aspects Venus in navamsa who is LoA. 2) So all primary significator house/lords is affected by Shani. 3) Shani is at 1 degree 30 in Cancer. So delay due to Shani is 27 years 5 months or so. 4) No other planet is delay causing. 5) Check if any special criteria is there that can check the delay or cause an early marriage. i.e say blessing of father/guru (in India) or Guru's check on Shani. Here Guru does not aspect Shani in neither Rasi or Navamsa. However Shani is in nakshtra of Guru ??? Lagna and 9th lords or Ketu and Mercury are not in 5:9 in rasi or navamsa. 6) I am assuming that there is a reason that delay of Shani is checked for some reason this is based on the answer as the marriage happened on 20th August 2000. 7) Delay due to Shani is 27 years 5 months and check due to Guru (Sa in nak of Guru) so (27.4 + 21) / 2 = 24.25. So marriage will be after 24.2 years. NOW my point is that, in all previous discussions - the delay by Sat was revolved around 27.5 yrs ( i.e. time taken by Sat to arrive @ sign , -One sign earlier than Natal sign). It has never been - for a delay of 3 signs( 7.5 years). Pl explain the reasoning of " delay of 3 signs ( 7.5 years) " by Sat and it's logic, if any. Thanks and regards Sanjiva Sharma , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Krushanji and Sanjiva, > > > > Oh I think I got it what you are asking or where there is a difference. > > > > 27.5 years is 1 round of Saturn - 1 sign to encompass 21 + 7.5 years. So > here we take the " base " as birth time or 0 years + 27.5 or if u take base as > " 21 " + 3 signs of Saturn = 7.5 so 27.5 > > > > 7.5 years is taken from the " base " of legal age or early age of marriage. > > > > So the starting point is different. > > > > That is why, in some customs say if a person is married at 24 or so i.e. > girls then its considered very delayed if the base or early marriage is at > say 12-15 years then 22 might be considered delayed. This u might come > across in very old charts where marriages at that time were held very early > in life and that time even life expectancy was low. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > Sharma > Tuesday January 8, 2008 2:28 AM > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > Dear Ash, > > Please, clarify the followings: > > 1. I think ( may not be 100 % correct) The legal age for marriage in India > is - for male- 21 yrs and for girls - 18 yrs. > > and, as such the delay as per your calculations ( of 3 signs - 7.5 yrs) > will be :- > > Male - 21 + 7.5 = 28.5 yrs ( not > 27.5 yrs) > > Female - 18 + 7.5 = 25.5 yrs. > > This is a totally different than what is taught till now i.e. " the Delay of > Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before its' position in > natal Chart i.e. approx after traveling 11 signs ( when Sat is at 0 degree > in the sign) i.e 11 x 2.5 = 27.5 yrs " " > > 2. Pl explain, the logic of " Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 > signs ( and not 11 signs) > > Thanks and Regards > > Sanjiva Sharma > > > > ar Sanjiva, > > > > > > > > Both are same thing. > > > > > > > > Legal age in India is 21 years so if Sa is 0 deg or 7.5 years delay then > 21 > > + 7.5 = 27.5 years. > > > > > > > > Hope its clear. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > > Sharma > > Tuesday January 8, 2008 1:19 AM > > > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > In the mail to Mr. Ramesh, you quoted as below: > > > > " Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable > > age in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa > > to come to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. " > > > > BUT, in the previous mails from you ( and in many of the old mails), The > > follwoing is stated:- > > > > " the Delay of Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before > > its' position in natal Chart i.e. approx 11 X 2.5 yrs = 27.5 yrs or so " " > > > > Pl clarify which satement is correct?? > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Sanjiva Sharma > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> vents , > > " Ash's Corner@ " > > kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > One thing, back in 1958, as per that time and as per the village and > > social > > > customs if a girl was married at the age of 13-15 then 22 years would > > be > > > considered delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me explain something. These laws given and if u keenly observe all > > the > > > mails even the mail in which Krushanji solved for our Late Peterji, > > > Krushanji had asked, what is considered normal age of marriage as per > > that > > > time and in UK. Then based on that the laws of delay were applied. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable > > age > > > in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to > > come > > > to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in north America, people marry a bit later than India on an > > average, so > > > say if early marriage is 24 then delay might be 24 + 7.5 = 31.5 or 32 > > years > > > or even more if Ju is causing delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > So it's imperative that u apply the desh, kaal paatra principle first > > and > > > identify that was was the normal trend at that point in time and as > > per the > > > society of some village or customs back in those days. > > > > > > > > > > > > So I hope this is clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in this case, first of all the time is given as 4:00 AM. Is this > > > accurate time? Maybe it is and Maybe it isn't. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, more events are not given to verify this. So to assume blindly > > that > > > any time given is correct is not proper, one must verify the events. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for practice, say you are taking this chart, then here u can see > > Delay. > > > Ju is in libra, Ve in nak of sun, lagna and 9th lords in 5:9 but lagna > > lord > > > itself is in libra and causing delay as well, i.e. the blessing giving > > one > > > of the lord. Sa is in 5th house so again delay. So based on this there > > is > > > much delay. There are also 2 zeroes. > > > > > > > > > > > > So this chart as per current age and day might give delay of say 30-32 > > > years. Now that is based on marriageable age of 21. Now, if early > > marriage > > > back in that time was say 11-14 then 22 years might be considered very > > > delayed which would be in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if marriageable age was not such then ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> vents ] > > On Behalf Of ramesh > > mishra > > > Sunday January 6, 2008 10:02 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: Chart study and future > > events > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and group, > > > > > > Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there > > > marriage was delayed. > > > > > > Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980 > > and > > > since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such. > > > > > > Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India > > > > > > Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India. > > > > > > I did not see male chart and found the following points in female > > chart with > > > an intention to validate her marriage date. > > > > > > 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the > > blessings > > > but Ju is spoiled being in Libra. > > > > > > 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both. > > > > > > 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries. > > > > > > 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su. > > > > > > 5.Su to Ve distance is OK. > > > > > > She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+. > > > > > > What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ? > > > > > > Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of > > Sa > > > and Ju in marriage ? > > > > > > If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb > > 1975 ) ? > > > > > > For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected > > by Ju > > > (12th of 5th) with malefic sight. > > > > > > For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS. > > > > > > Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ? > > > > > > All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the > > result of > > > 5th. > > > > > > Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th. > > > > > > Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house. > > > > > > If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for > > 11th. > > > > > > In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of > > child. > > > > > > When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed > > with > > > child. > > > > > > The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing > > > through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr > > 2008 and > > > till now no information of conception. > > > > > > Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ? > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly > > > happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some > > > temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. > > > > > > Ju has the highest power and is LoE. > > > > > > Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to > > Mo. > > > Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more > > > chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in > > blessing. > > > > > > Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma > > antra then > > > it would break. > > > > > > Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will > > have > > > to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points > > are > > > valid. > > > > > > Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as > > well. > > > Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this > > in > > > many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a > > thing to > > > me in some chat of mind some time back. > > > > > > You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for > > childbirth. > > > > > > > > > Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising > > from > > > Moon, > > > > > > Now, delay in his wife's chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 > > zero. She > > > married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it > > > will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very > > daring as > > > well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. > > > > > > She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might > > hurt > > > her ego. > > > > > > In any case, there has been separation. > > > > > > Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would > > give > > > separation. > > > > > > Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. > > > > > > Rectification might be required. > > > > > > I am out of time. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> vents ] > > On Behalf Of ramesh > > mishra > > > Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> vents > > > RE: Re: Chart study and future > > events > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup and group, > > > > > > For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 > > Ar > > > 59. > > > > > > He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. > > > > > > This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not > > help him > > > probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. > > > > > > There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun > > 2001 > > > during Ra -Su. > > > > > > Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th > > in WS. > > > > > > Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . > > > > > > Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this > > native or > > > is there any other reason ? > > > > > > I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being > > > associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. > > > > > > Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart > > > indicates disharmony in their married life. > > > > > > While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only > > 20 > > > points. > > > > > > Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. > > > > > > From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. > > > > > > SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will > > dominate > > > over him. > > > > > > His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th > > house, so > > > the conflict is going on between them. > > > > > > When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is > > with 41 > > > SAV points. > > > > > > Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or > > during > > > Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. > > > > > > Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara > > who > > > came first. > > > > > > Ju is also weak in 5th house. > > > > > > Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth > > of > > > child occurred in Ju antara. > > > > > > Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However > > both Ve > > > and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for > > the > > > event of 5th house. > > > > > > We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace > > Ve > > > being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? > > > > > > Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. > > > > > > I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and > > conception. > > > > > > May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > " ash@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > > > It's not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone > > facing > > > some problem or the other. > > > > > > Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your > > consciousness > > > to get answer. > > > > > > You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen > > that. > > > So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail > > > giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. > > > > > > You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some > > astrologer > > > based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it > > has > > > not satisfied you. > > > > > > So what will? > > > > > > You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes > > you so > > > sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. > > > > > > Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held > > spelling > > > out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your > > time > > > has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, > > just > > > so that you know. > > > > > > I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I > > did > > > see there was some issues in your chart. > > > > > > One thing, you might have heard this old adage, " A rolling stone > > gathers no > > > moss " . So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. > > > > > > Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given > > you, > > > but something is still there that is nagging you and u can't seem to > > come to > > > terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to > > another, > > > one astrologer to the other. > > > > > > In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but > > my > > > suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good > > psychiatrist, > > > they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or > > answer > > > your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. > > > > > > Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some > > spiritual > > > persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or > > liking. > > > > > > If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your > > chart, if u > > > think this will help u find an answer. > > > > > > Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, > > > > > > 1) Download the lessons from Donna's website at http://krushna. > > > <http://krushna. <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> sageasita.com/> > > sageasita.com > > > > > > 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending > > > countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will > > benefit > > > all. > > > > > > 3) Go thought the FAQ's and KAS Visuals on Donna's site - She has put > > in a > > > lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to > > simplify KAS > > > > > > 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when > > > Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of > > questions > > > to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded > > with > > > lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the > > archives > > > of Krushnaji's mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u > > > re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. > > > > > > 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which > > is not > > > yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, > > for > > > which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of > > persons > > > who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events > > down > > > along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. > > > > > > 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its > > not > > > something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the > > first > > > step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your > > time and > > > effort in learning KAS. > > > > > > 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a > > blessing of > > > our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge > > u > > > have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go > > blank > > > at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that > > from > > > your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. > > > > > > Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal > > with > > > your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be > > beneficial > > > to you over the long run. > > > > > > If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my > > > intension. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> vents ] > > On Behalf Of > > Chandu2chill > > > Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> vents > > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i > > > need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that > > > matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future > > > predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish > > > (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable > > > Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my > > > present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that > > > manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and > > > fourums.... > > > > > > //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// > > > > > > Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still > > > trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i > > > totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with > > > his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the > > > learned people like you.... > > > > > > Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which > > > suggested... > > > > > > //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning > > > specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and > > > try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, > > > ask for assistance and help will be offered. > > > > > > If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should > > > furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be > > > helpful for study.// > > > > > > //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > > > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// > > > > > > My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli > > > casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is > > > 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka > > > with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 > > > AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned > > > him at that time... > > > > > > Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have > > > that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my > > > current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when > > > i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of > > > differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of > > > variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with > > > Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's > > > positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we > > > know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! > > > > > > //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > > > other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All > > > systems are good.// > > > > > > With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior > > > other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a > > > more convincing to me... > > > > > > Hope i will learn more and understand myself > > > > > > Please forgive me for putting my details here.... > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > Chandu > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " Ash's Corner@ " > > > kas@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. > > > Besides that, > > > > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in > > > your > > > > marriage and also career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > > > > > > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > > > > > > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > > > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > > > other > > > > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems > > > are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > > ca/> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of > > > Chandu2chill > > > > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > Chart study and futre events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > > > > all.. > > > > > > > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it > > > to > > > > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > > > > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my > > > (still) > > > > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > > > > events will be highly appreciated > > > > > > > > 1) Complete birth data. > > > > Myself: > > > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > > > > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > > > > Wife: > > > > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > > > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > > > > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > > > > > > > Child: Baby Girl > > > > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > > > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > > > > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars > > > period > > > > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also > > > change > > > > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > > > > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > > > > > > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > > > > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > > > > has 41 Points... > > > > > > > > Some past events for study > > > > > > > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > > > > > > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- > > > stored > > > > on March-April 05. > > > > > > > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > > > > > > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder > > > people > > > > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no > > > communications > > > > > > > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes > > > now > > > > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > > > > > > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > > > > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > > > > left me again > > > > > > > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > > > > insights on below future events > > > > > > > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > > > > happen? > > > > > > > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > > > > > > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > > > > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my > > > dreams > > > > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, > > > financially, > > > > and in my professional life.. > > > > > > > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a > > > Techno- > > > > commercial sales Pro.. > > > > > > > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > > > > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > > > > only way...? > > > > > > > > Appreciate your time... > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Chann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Ash, Thanks for advice. We take Full Delay of Sat to be 27.5 years less degrees traversed by Sa in the sign. and NOT 7.5 yrs Thanks and Regards Sanjiva Sharma , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Sanjiva, > > > > The delay is not 7.5 years but 27.5 years less degrees traversed by Sa in > the sign. Just read my mail. > > > > Please avoid confusion. Just consider what is taught in lessons. Leave > this portion that I told just now. I think it will confuse everyone. > > > > In this chart analysis, I am still not sure why there was reduction of delay > and that is the first line I have asked Krushnaji. > > > > In this chart I took delay to be 1 sign previous to natal position of Saturn > and did my calculations based on that. > > > > Just ignore this thing that I have told about 7.5 years, to avoid any > confusion and please use it the way Krushnaji has given in Lessons. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > Sharma > Tuesday January 8, 2008 3:45 AM > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > Dear Ash > > Please, refer to your message no - 8741. > > You were analysing the chart with following details. > > DOB 28-07-1975 Time 9:50 Am Place Patiala ( 30N 19 , 76 E 24) -5:30 IST > > In " TECHNICAL ANALYSIS, you stated that: > > Technical Analysis. > > 1) Here Shani is the delay causing planet. Shani is in House C, It > aspects Guru who is LoB and Shani aspects Venus in navamsa who is > LoA. > > 2) So all primary significator house/lords is affected by Shani. > > 3) Shani is at 1 degree 30 in Cancer. So delay due to Shani is 27 > years 5 months or so. > > 4) No other planet is delay causing. > > 5) Check if any special criteria is there that can check the delay or > cause an early marriage. i.e say blessing of father/guru (in India) > or Guru's check on Shani. Here Guru does not aspect Shani in neither > Rasi or Navamsa. However Shani is in nakshtra of Guru ??? > > Lagna and 9th lords or Ketu and Mercury are not in 5:9 in rasi or > navamsa. > > 6) I am assuming that there is a reason that delay of Shani is > checked for some reason this is based on the answer as the marriage > happened on 20th August 2000. > > 7) Delay due to Shani is 27 years 5 months and check due to Guru (Sa > in nak of Guru) so (27.4 + 21) / 2 = 24.25. > So marriage will be after 24.2 years. > > NOW my point is that, in all previous discussions - the delay by Sat was > revolved around 27.5 yrs ( i.e. time taken by Sat to arrive @ sign , -One > sign earlier than Natal sign). > > It has never been - for a delay of 3 signs( 7.5 years). > > Pl explain the reasoning of " delay of 3 signs ( 7.5 years) " by Sat and it's > logic, if any. > > Thanks and regards > > Sanjiva Sharma > , " Ash's Corner@ " > kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Krushanji and Sanjiva, > > > > > > > > Oh I think I got it what you are asking or where there is a difference. > > > > > > > > 27.5 years is 1 round of Saturn - 1 sign to encompass 21 + 7.5 years. So > > here we take the " base " as birth time or 0 years + 27.5 or if u take base > as > > " 21 " + 3 signs of Saturn = 7.5 so 27.5 > > > > > > > > 7.5 years is taken from the " base " of legal age or early age of marriage. > > > > > > > > So the starting point is different. > > > > > > > > That is why, in some customs say if a person is married at 24 or so i.e. > > girls then its considered very delayed if the base or early marriage is at > > say 12-15 years then 22 might be considered delayed. This u might come > > across in very old charts where marriages at that time were held very > early > > in life and that time even life expectancy was low. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > > Sharma > > Tuesday January 8, 2008 2:28 AM > > > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Please, clarify the followings: > > > > 1. I think ( may not be 100 % correct) The legal age for marriage in India > > is - for male- 21 yrs and for girls - 18 yrs. > > > > and, as such the delay as per your calculations ( of 3 signs - 7.5 yrs) > > will be :- > > > > Male - 21 + 7.5 = 28.5 yrs ( not > > 27.5 yrs) > > > > Female - 18 + 7.5 = 25.5 yrs. > > > > This is a totally different than what is taught till now i.e. " the Delay > of > > Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before its' position in > > natal Chart i.e. approx after traveling 11 signs ( when Sat is at 0 degree > > in the sign) i.e 11 x 2.5 = 27.5 yrs " " > > > > 2. Pl explain, the logic of " Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 > > signs ( and not 11 signs) > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Sanjiva Sharma > > > > > > > > ar Sanjiva, > > > > > > > > > > > > Both are same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Legal age in India is 21 years so if Sa is 0 deg or 7.5 years delay then > > 21 > > > + 7.5 = 27.5 years. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope its clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > > > Sharma > > > Tuesday January 8, 2008 1:19 AM > > > > > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > In the mail to Mr. Ramesh, you quoted as below: > > > > > > " Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable > > > age in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa > > > to come to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. " > > > > > > BUT, in the previous mails from you ( and in many of the old mails), The > > > follwoing is stated:- > > > > > > " the Delay of Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before > > > its' position in natal Chart i.e. approx 11 X 2.5 yrs = 27.5 yrs or so " " > > > > > > Pl clarify which satement is correct?? > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents , > > > " Ash's Corner@ " > > > kas@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One thing, back in 1958, as per that time and as per the village and > > > social > > > > customs if a girl was married at the age of 13-15 then 22 years would > > > be > > > > considered delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me explain something. These laws given and if u keenly observe all > > > the > > > > mails even the mail in which Krushanji solved for our Late Peterji, > > > > Krushanji had asked, what is considered normal age of marriage as per > > > that > > > > time and in UK. Then based on that the laws of delay were applied. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable > > > age > > > > in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to > > > come > > > > to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in north America, people marry a bit later than India on an > > > average, so > > > > say if early marriage is 24 then delay might be 24 + 7.5 = 31.5 or 32 > > > years > > > > or even more if Ju is causing delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it's imperative that u apply the desh, kaal paatra principle first > > > and > > > > identify that was was the normal trend at that point in time and as > > > per the > > > > society of some village or customs back in those days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I hope this is clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in this case, first of all the time is given as 4:00 AM. Is this > > > > accurate time? Maybe it is and Maybe it isn't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, more events are not given to verify this. So to assume blindly > > > that > > > > any time given is correct is not proper, one must verify the events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for practice, say you are taking this chart, then here u can see > > > Delay. > > > > Ju is in libra, Ve in nak of sun, lagna and 9th lords in 5:9 but lagna > > > lord > > > > itself is in libra and causing delay as well, i.e. the blessing giving > > > one > > > > of the lord. Sa is in 5th house so again delay. So based on this there > > > is > > > > much delay. There are also 2 zeroes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So this chart as per current age and day might give delay of say 30-32 > > > > years. Now that is based on marriageable age of 21. Now, if early > > > marriage > > > > back in that time was say 11-14 then 22 years might be considered very > > > > delayed which would be in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if marriageable age was not such then ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents ] > > > On Behalf Of ramesh > > > mishra > > > > Sunday January 6, 2008 10:02 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents > > > > RE: Re: Chart study and future > > > events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and group, > > > > > > > > Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there > > > > marriage was delayed. > > > > > > > > Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980 > > > and > > > > since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such. > > > > > > > > Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India > > > > > > > > Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India. > > > > > > > > I did not see male chart and found the following points in female > > > chart with > > > > an intention to validate her marriage date. > > > > > > > > 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the > > > blessings > > > > but Ju is spoiled being in Libra. > > > > > > > > 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both. > > > > > > > > 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries. > > > > > > > > 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su. > > > > > > > > 5.Su to Ve distance is OK. > > > > > > > > She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+. > > > > > > > > What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ? > > > > > > > > Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of > > > Sa > > > > and Ju in marriage ? > > > > > > > > If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb > > > 1975 ) ? > > > > > > > > For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected > > > by Ju > > > > (12th of 5th) with malefic sight. > > > > > > > > For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS. > > > > > > > > Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ? > > > > > > > > All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the > > > result of > > > > 5th. > > > > > > > > Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th. > > > > > > > > Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house. > > > > > > > > If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for > > > 11th. > > > > > > > > In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of > > > child. > > > > > > > > When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed > > > with > > > > child. > > > > > > > > The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing > > > > through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr > > > 2008 and > > > > till now no information of conception. > > > > > > > > Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ? > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly > > > > happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some > > > > temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. > > > > > > > > Ju has the highest power and is LoE. > > > > > > > > Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to > > > Mo. > > > > Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more > > > > chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in > > > blessing. > > > > > > > > Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma > > > antra then > > > > it would break. > > > > > > > > Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will > > > have > > > > to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points > > > are > > > > valid. > > > > > > > > Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as > > > well. > > > > Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this > > > in > > > > many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a > > > thing to > > > > me in some chat of mind some time back. > > > > > > > > You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for > > > childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising > > > from > > > > Moon, > > > > > > > > Now, delay in his wife's chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 > > > zero. She > > > > married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it > > > > will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very > > > daring as > > > > well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. > > > > > > > > She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might > > > hurt > > > > her ego. > > > > > > > > In any case, there has been separation. > > > > > > > > Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would > > > give > > > > separation. > > > > > > > > Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. > > > > > > > > Rectification might be required. > > > > > > > > I am out of time. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents ] > > > On Behalf Of ramesh > > > mishra > > > > Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents > > > > RE: Re: Chart study and future > > > events > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup and group, > > > > > > > > For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 > > > Ar > > > > 59. > > > > > > > > He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. > > > > > > > > This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not > > > help him > > > > probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. > > > > > > > > There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun > > > 2001 > > > > during Ra -Su. > > > > > > > > Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th > > > in WS. > > > > > > > > Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . > > > > > > > > Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this > > > native or > > > > is there any other reason ? > > > > > > > > I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being > > > > associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. > > > > > > > > Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart > > > > indicates disharmony in their married life. > > > > > > > > While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only > > > 20 > > > > points. > > > > > > > > Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. > > > > > > > > From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. > > > > > > > > SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will > > > dominate > > > > over him. > > > > > > > > His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th > > > house, so > > > > the conflict is going on between them. > > > > > > > > When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is > > > with 41 > > > > SAV points. > > > > > > > > Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or > > > during > > > > Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. > > > > > > > > Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara > > > who > > > > came first. > > > > > > > > Ju is also weak in 5th house. > > > > > > > > Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth > > > of > > > > child occurred in Ju antara. > > > > > > > > Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However > > > both Ve > > > > and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for > > > the > > > > event of 5th house. > > > > > > > > We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace > > > Ve > > > > being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? > > > > > > > > Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. > > > > > > > > I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and > > > conception. > > > > > > > > May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ash@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > > > > > It's not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone > > > facing > > > > some problem or the other. > > > > > > > > Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your > > > consciousness > > > > to get answer. > > > > > > > > You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen > > > that. > > > > So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail > > > > giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. > > > > > > > > You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some > > > astrologer > > > > based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it > > > has > > > > not satisfied you. > > > > > > > > So what will? > > > > > > > > You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes > > > you so > > > > sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. > > > > > > > > Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held > > > spelling > > > > out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your > > > time > > > > has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, > > > just > > > > so that you know. > > > > > > > > I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I > > > did > > > > see there was some issues in your chart. > > > > > > > > One thing, you might have heard this old adage, " A rolling stone > > > gathers no > > > > moss " . So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. > > > > > > > > Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given > > > you, > > > > but something is still there that is nagging you and u can't seem to > > > come to > > > > terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to > > > another, > > > > one astrologer to the other. > > > > > > > > In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but > > > my > > > > suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good > > > psychiatrist, > > > > they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or > > > answer > > > > your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. > > > > > > > > Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some > > > spiritual > > > > persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or > > > liking. > > > > > > > > If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your > > > chart, if u > > > > think this will help u find an answer. > > > > > > > > Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, > > > > > > > > 1) Download the lessons from Donna's website at http://krushna. > > > > <http://krushna. <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> sageasita.com/> > > > sageasita.com > > > > > > > > 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending > > > > countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will > > > benefit > > > > all. > > > > > > > > 3) Go thought the FAQ's and KAS Visuals on Donna's site - She has put > > > in a > > > > lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to > > > simplify KAS > > > > > > > > 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when > > > > Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of > > > questions > > > > to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded > > > with > > > > lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the > > > archives > > > > of Krushnaji's mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u > > > > re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. > > > > > > > > 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which > > > is not > > > > yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, > > > for > > > > which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of > > > persons > > > > who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events > > > down > > > > along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. > > > > > > > > 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its > > > not > > > > something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the > > > first > > > > step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your > > > time and > > > > effort in learning KAS. > > > > > > > > 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a > > > blessing of > > > > our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge > > > u > > > > have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go > > > blank > > > > at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that > > > from > > > > your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. > > > > > > > > Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal > > > with > > > > your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be > > > beneficial > > > > to you over the long run. > > > > > > > > If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my > > > > intension. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents ] > > > On Behalf Of > > > Chandu2chill > > > > Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents > > > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i > > > > need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that > > > > matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future > > > > predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish > > > > (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable > > > > Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my > > > > present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that > > > > manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and > > > > fourums.... > > > > > > > > //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// > > > > > > > > Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still > > > > trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i > > > > totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with > > > > his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the > > > > learned people like you.... > > > > > > > > Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which > > > > suggested... > > > > > > > > //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning > > > > specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and > > > > try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, > > > > ask for assistance and help will be offered. > > > > > > > > If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should > > > > furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be > > > > helpful for study.// > > > > > > > > //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > > > > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// > > > > > > > > My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli > > > > casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is > > > > 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka > > > > with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 > > > > AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned > > > > him at that time... > > > > > > > > Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have > > > > that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my > > > > current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when > > > > i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of > > > > differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of > > > > variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with > > > > Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's > > > > positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we > > > > know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! > > > > > > > > //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > > > > other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All > > > > systems are good.// > > > > > > > > With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior > > > > other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a > > > > more convincing to me... > > > > > > > > Hope i will learn more and understand myself > > > > > > > > Please forgive me for putting my details here.... > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > Chandu > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > " Ash's Corner@ " > > > > kas@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. > > > > Besides that, > > > > > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in > > > > your > > > > > marriage and also career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > > > > > > > > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > > > > > > > > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > > > > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > > > > other > > > > > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems > > > > are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > > > ca/> ca> > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > Chandu2chill > > > > > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > Chart study and futre events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > > > > > all.. > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it > > > > to > > > > > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > > > > > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my > > > > (still) > > > > > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > > > > > events will be highly appreciated > > > > > > > > > > 1) Complete birth data. > > > > > Myself: > > > > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > > > > > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > > > > > Wife: > > > > > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > > > > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > > > > > > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > > > > > > > > > Child: Baby Girl > > > > > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > > > > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > > > > > > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars > > > > period > > > > > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also > > > > change > > > > > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > > > > > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > > > > > > > > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > > > > > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > > > > > has 41 Points... > > > > > > > > > > Some past events for study > > > > > > > > > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > > > > > > > > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- > > > > stored > > > > > on March-April 05. > > > > > > > > > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > > > > > > > > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder > > > > people > > > > > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no > > > > communications > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes > > > > now > > > > > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > > > > > > > > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > > > > > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > > > > > left me again > > > > > > > > > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > > > > > insights on below future events > > > > > > > > > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > > > > > happen? > > > > > > > > > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > > > > > > > > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > > > > > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my > > > > dreams > > > > > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, > > > > financially, > > > > > and in my professional life.. > > > > > > > > > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a > > > > Techno- > > > > > commercial sales Pro.. > > > > > > > > > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > > > > > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > > > > > only way...? > > > > > > > > > > Appreciate your time... > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Chann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Sanjiva, Thanks. My apologies for causing confusion. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Sanjiva Sharma Tuesday January 8, 2008 4:33 AM Subject: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash, Thanks for advice. We take Full Delay of Sat to be 27.5 years less degrees traversed by Sa in the sign. and NOT 7.5 yrs Thanks and Regards Sanjiva Sharma , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Sanjiva, > > > > The delay is not 7.5 years but 27.5 years less degrees traversed by Sa in > the sign. Just read my mail. > > > > Please avoid confusion. Just consider what is taught in lessons. Leave > this portion that I told just now. I think it will confuse everyone. > > > > In this chart analysis, I am still not sure why there was reduction of delay > and that is the first line I have asked Krushnaji. > > > > In this chart I took delay to be 1 sign previous to natal position of Saturn > and did my calculations based on that. > > > > Just ignore this thing that I have told about 7.5 years, to avoid any > confusion and please use it the way Krushnaji has given in Lessons. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > Sharma > Tuesday January 8, 2008 3:45 AM > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > Dear Ash > > Please, refer to your message no - 8741. > > You were analysing the chart with following details. > > DOB 28-07-1975 Time 9:50 Am Place Patiala ( 30N 19 , 76 E 24) -5:30 IST > > In " TECHNICAL ANALYSIS, you stated that: > > Technical Analysis. > > 1) Here Shani is the delay causing planet. Shani is in House C, It > aspects Guru who is LoB and Shani aspects Venus in navamsa who is > LoA. > > 2) So all primary significator house/lords is affected by Shani. > > 3) Shani is at 1 degree 30 in Cancer. So delay due to Shani is 27 > years 5 months or so. > > 4) No other planet is delay causing. > > 5) Check if any special criteria is there that can check the delay or > cause an early marriage. i.e say blessing of father/guru (in India) > or Guru's check on Shani. Here Guru does not aspect Shani in neither > Rasi or Navamsa. However Shani is in nakshtra of Guru ??? > > Lagna and 9th lords or Ketu and Mercury are not in 5:9 in rasi or > navamsa. > > 6) I am assuming that there is a reason that delay of Shani is > checked for some reason this is based on the answer as the marriage > happened on 20th August 2000. > > 7) Delay due to Shani is 27 years 5 months and check due to Guru (Sa > in nak of Guru) so (27.4 + 21) / 2 = 24.25. > So marriage will be after 24.2 years. > > NOW my point is that, in all previous discussions - the delay by Sat was > revolved around 27.5 yrs ( i.e. time taken by Sat to arrive @ sign , -One > sign earlier than Natal sign). > > It has never been - for a delay of 3 signs( 7.5 years). > > Pl explain the reasoning of " delay of 3 signs ( 7.5 years) " by Sat and it's > logic, if any. > > Thanks and regards > > Sanjiva Sharma > , " Ash's Corner@ " > kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Krushanji and Sanjiva, > > > > > > > > Oh I think I got it what you are asking or where there is a difference. > > > > > > > > 27.5 years is 1 round of Saturn - 1 sign to encompass 21 + 7.5 years. So > > here we take the " base " as birth time or 0 years + 27.5 or if u take base > as > > " 21 " + 3 signs of Saturn = 7.5 so 27.5 > > > > > > > > 7.5 years is taken from the " base " of legal age or early age of marriage. > > > > > > > > So the starting point is different. > > > > > > > > That is why, in some customs say if a person is married at 24 or so i.e. > > girls then its considered very delayed if the base or early marriage is at > > say 12-15 years then 22 might be considered delayed. This u might come > > across in very old charts where marriages at that time were held very > early > > in life and that time even life expectancy was low. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > > Sharma > > Tuesday January 8, 2008 2:28 AM > > > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Please, clarify the followings: > > > > 1. I think ( may not be 100 % correct) The legal age for marriage in India > > is - for male- 21 yrs and for girls - 18 yrs. > > > > and, as such the delay as per your calculations ( of 3 signs - 7.5 yrs) > > will be :- > > > > Male - 21 + 7.5 = 28.5 yrs ( not > > 27.5 yrs) > > > > Female - 18 + 7.5 = 25.5 yrs. > > > > This is a totally different than what is taught till now i.e. " the Delay > of > > Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before its' position in > > natal Chart i.e. approx after traveling 11 signs ( when Sat is at 0 degree > > in the sign) i.e 11 x 2.5 = 27.5 yrs " " > > > > 2. Pl explain, the logic of " Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 > > signs ( and not 11 signs) > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Sanjiva Sharma > > > > > > > > ar Sanjiva, > > > > > > > > > > > > Both are same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Legal age in India is 21 years so if Sa is 0 deg or 7.5 years delay then > > 21 > > > + 7.5 = 27.5 years. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope its clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > > > Sharma > > > Tuesday January 8, 2008 1:19 AM > > > > > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > In the mail to Mr. Ramesh, you quoted as below: > > > > > > " Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable > > > age in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa > > > to come to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. " > > > > > > BUT, in the previous mails from you ( and in many of the old mails), The > > > follwoing is stated:- > > > > > > " the Delay of Sat will be over, when it comes to the One Sign before > > > its' position in natal Chart i.e. approx 11 X 2.5 yrs = 27.5 yrs or so " " > > > > > > Pl clarify which satement is correct?? > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents , > > > " Ash's Corner@ " > > > kas@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One thing, back in 1958, as per that time and as per the village and > > > social > > > > customs if a girl was married at the age of 13-15 then 22 years would > > > be > > > > considered delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me explain something. These laws given and if u keenly observe all > > > the > > > > mails even the mail in which Krushanji solved for our Late Peterji, > > > > Krushanji had asked, what is considered normal age of marriage as per > > > that > > > > time and in UK. Then based on that the laws of delay were applied. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable > > > age > > > > in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to > > > come > > > > to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in north America, people marry a bit later than India on an > > > average, so > > > > say if early marriage is 24 then delay might be 24 + 7.5 = 31.5 or 32 > > > years > > > > or even more if Ju is causing delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it's imperative that u apply the desh, kaal paatra principle first > > > and > > > > identify that was was the normal trend at that point in time and as > > > per the > > > > society of some village or customs back in those days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I hope this is clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now in this case, first of all the time is given as 4:00 AM. Is this > > > > accurate time? Maybe it is and Maybe it isn't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, more events are not given to verify this. So to assume blindly > > > that > > > > any time given is correct is not proper, one must verify the events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for practice, say you are taking this chart, then here u can see > > > Delay. > > > > Ju is in libra, Ve in nak of sun, lagna and 9th lords in 5:9 but lagna > > > lord > > > > itself is in libra and causing delay as well, i.e. the blessing giving > > > one > > > > of the lord. Sa is in 5th house so again delay. So based on this there > > > is > > > > much delay. There are also 2 zeroes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So this chart as per current age and day might give delay of say 30-32 > > > > years. Now that is based on marriageable age of 21. Now, if early > > > marriage > > > > back in that time was say 11-14 then 22 years might be considered very > > > > delayed which would be in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if marriageable age was not such then ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents ] > > > On Behalf Of ramesh > > > mishra > > > > Sunday January 6, 2008 10:02 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents > > > > RE: Re: Chart study and future > > > events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and group, > > > > > > > > Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there > > > > marriage was delayed. > > > > > > > > Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980 > > > and > > > > since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such. > > > > > > > > Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India > > > > > > > > Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India. > > > > > > > > I did not see male chart and found the following points in female > > > chart with > > > > an intention to validate her marriage date. > > > > > > > > 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the > > > blessings > > > > but Ju is spoiled being in Libra. > > > > > > > > 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both. > > > > > > > > 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries. > > > > > > > > 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su. > > > > > > > > 5.Su to Ve distance is OK. > > > > > > > > She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+. > > > > > > > > What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ? > > > > > > > > Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of > > > Sa > > > > and Ju in marriage ? > > > > > > > > If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb > > > 1975 ) ? > > > > > > > > For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected > > > by Ju > > > > (12th of 5th) with malefic sight. > > > > > > > > For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS. > > > > > > > > Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ? > > > > > > > > All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the > > > result of > > > > 5th. > > > > > > > > Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th. > > > > > > > > Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house. > > > > > > > > If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for > > > 11th. > > > > > > > > In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of > > > child. > > > > > > > > When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed > > > with > > > > child. > > > > > > > > The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing > > > > through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr > > > 2008 and > > > > till now no information of conception. > > > > > > > > Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ? > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly > > > > happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some > > > > temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. > > > > > > > > Ju has the highest power and is LoE. > > > > > > > > Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to > > > Mo. > > > > Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more > > > > chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in > > > blessing. > > > > > > > > Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma > > > antra then > > > > it would break. > > > > > > > > Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will > > > have > > > > to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points > > > are > > > > valid. > > > > > > > > Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as > > > well. > > > > Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this > > > in > > > > many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a > > > thing to > > > > me in some chat of mind some time back. > > > > > > > > You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for > > > childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising > > > from > > > > Moon, > > > > > > > > Now, delay in his wife's chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 > > > zero. She > > > > married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it > > > > will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very > > > daring as > > > > well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. > > > > > > > > She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might > > > hurt > > > > her ego. > > > > > > > > In any case, there has been separation. > > > > > > > > Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would > > > give > > > > separation. > > > > > > > > Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. > > > > > > > > Rectification might be required. > > > > > > > > I am out of time. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents ] > > > On Behalf Of ramesh > > > mishra > > > > Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents > > > > RE: Re: Chart study and future > > > events > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup and group, > > > > > > > > For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 > > > Ar > > > > 59. > > > > > > > > He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. > > > > > > > > This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not > > > help him > > > > probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. > > > > > > > > There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun > > > 2001 > > > > during Ra -Su. > > > > > > > > Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th > > > in WS. > > > > > > > > Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . > > > > > > > > Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this > > > native or > > > > is there any other reason ? > > > > > > > > I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being > > > > associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. > > > > > > > > Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart > > > > indicates disharmony in their married life. > > > > > > > > While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only > > > 20 > > > > points. > > > > > > > > Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. > > > > > > > > From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. > > > > > > > > SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will > > > dominate > > > > over him. > > > > > > > > His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th > > > house, so > > > > the conflict is going on between them. > > > > > > > > When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is > > > with 41 > > > > SAV points. > > > > > > > > Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or > > > during > > > > Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. > > > > > > > > Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara > > > who > > > > came first. > > > > > > > > Ju is also weak in 5th house. > > > > > > > > Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth > > > of > > > > child occurred in Ju antara. > > > > > > > > Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However > > > both Ve > > > > and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for > > > the > > > > event of 5th house. > > > > > > > > We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace > > > Ve > > > > being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? > > > > > > > > Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. > > > > > > > > I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and > > > conception. > > > > > > > > May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " ash@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > > > > > It's not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone > > > facing > > > > some problem or the other. > > > > > > > > Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your > > > consciousness > > > > to get answer. > > > > > > > > You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen > > > that. > > > > So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail > > > > giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. > > > > > > > > You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some > > > astrologer > > > > based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it > > > has > > > > not satisfied you. > > > > > > > > So what will? > > > > > > > > You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes > > > you so > > > > sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. > > > > > > > > Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held > > > spelling > > > > out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your > > > time > > > > has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, > > > just > > > > so that you know. > > > > > > > > I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I > > > did > > > > see there was some issues in your chart. > > > > > > > > One thing, you might have heard this old adage, " A rolling stone > > > gathers no > > > > moss " . So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. > > > > > > > > Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given > > > you, > > > > but something is still there that is nagging you and u can't seem to > > > come to > > > > terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to > > > another, > > > > one astrologer to the other. > > > > > > > > In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but > > > my > > > > suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good > > > psychiatrist, > > > > they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or > > > answer > > > > your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. > > > > > > > > Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some > > > spiritual > > > > persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or > > > liking. > > > > > > > > If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your > > > chart, if u > > > > think this will help u find an answer. > > > > > > > > Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, > > > > > > > > 1) Download the lessons from Donna's website at http://krushna. > > > > <http://krushna. <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> sageasita.com/> > > > sageasita.com > > > > > > > > 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending > > > > countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will > > > benefit > > > > all. > > > > > > > > 3) Go thought the FAQ's and KAS Visuals on Donna's site - She has put > > > in a > > > > lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to > > > simplify KAS > > > > > > > > 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when > > > > Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of > > > questions > > > > to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded > > > with > > > > lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the > > > archives > > > > of Krushnaji's mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u > > > > re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. > > > > > > > > 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which > > > is not > > > > yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, > > > for > > > > which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of > > > persons > > > > who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events > > > down > > > > along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. > > > > > > > > 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its > > > not > > > > something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the > > > first > > > > step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your > > > time and > > > > effort in learning KAS. > > > > > > > > 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a > > > blessing of > > > > our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge > > > u > > > > have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go > > > blank > > > > at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that > > > from > > > > your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. > > > > > > > > Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal > > > with > > > > your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be > > > beneficial > > > > to you over the long run. > > > > > > > > If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my > > > > intension. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents ] > > > On Behalf Of > > > Chandu2chill > > > > Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > vents > > > > Re: Chart study and future events > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i > > > > need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that > > > > matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future > > > > predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish > > > > (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable > > > > Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my > > > > present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that > > > > manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and > > > > fourums.... > > > > > > > > //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// > > > > > > > > Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still > > > > trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i > > > > totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with > > > > his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the > > > > learned people like you.... > > > > > > > > Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which > > > > suggested... > > > > > > > > //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning > > > > specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and > > > > try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, > > > > ask for assistance and help will be offered. > > > > > > > > If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should > > > > furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be > > > > helpful for study.// > > > > > > > > //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > > > > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// > > > > > > > > My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli > > > > casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is > > > > 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka > > > > with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 > > > > AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned > > > > him at that time... > > > > > > > > Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have > > > > that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my > > > > current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when > > > > i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of > > > > differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of > > > > variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with > > > > Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's > > > > positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we > > > > know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! > > > > > > > > //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > > > > other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All > > > > systems are good.// > > > > > > > > With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior > > > > other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a > > > > more convincing to me... > > > > > > > > Hope i will learn more and understand myself > > > > > > > > Please forgive me for putting my details here.... > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > > > > > Chandu > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > " Ash's Corner@ " > > > > kas@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. > > > > Besides that, > > > > > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in > > > > your > > > > > marriage and also career. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > > > > > > > > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > > > > > > > > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > > > > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > > > > other > > > > > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems > > > > are good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca/> > > > ca/> ca> > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > Chandu2chill > > > > > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > Chart study and futre events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > > > > > all.. > > > > > > > > > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it > > > > to > > > > > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > > > > > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my > > > > (still) > > > > > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > > > > > events will be highly appreciated > > > > > > > > > > 1) Complete birth data. > > > > > Myself: > > > > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > > > > > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > > > > > Wife: > > > > > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > > > > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > > > > > > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > > > > > > > > > Child: Baby Girl > > > > > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > > > > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > > > > > > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars > > > > period > > > > > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also > > > > change > > > > > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > > > > > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > > > > > > > > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > > > > > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > > > > > has 41 Points... > > > > > > > > > > Some past events for study > > > > > > > > > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > > > > > > > > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- > > > > stored > > > > > on March-April 05. > > > > > > > > > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > > > > > > > > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder > > > > people > > > > > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no > > > > communications > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes > > > > now > > > > > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > > > > > > > > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > > > > > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > > > > > left me again > > > > > > > > > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > > > > > insights on below future events > > > > > > > > > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > > > > > happen? > > > > > > > > > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > > > > > > > > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > > > > > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my > > > > dreams > > > > > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, > > > > financially, > > > > > and in my professional life.. > > > > > > > > > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a > > > > Techno- > > > > > commercial sales Pro.. > > > > > > > > > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > > > > > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > > > > > only way...? > > > > > > > > > > Appreciate your time... > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Chann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Mr. Ramesh, and Mr. Ash, First of all my sincere thanks to you all for taking out your valuable time to study my chart...i am greatful to you. Before i write anything, allow me to state that, i feel and really honored most among any astro help seeker in the entire that i am d to.. i am fortunate to get insights and readings from Many learned, highly skilled Gurus of this science called " Jyotish " i can name each induvidual who have responded to my queries rather repeated queries with their selflessness and kind guesture towards me. I am thankful to them all including those from whom i got slapped for asking again and again....i respect them all!! Now you may ask then why are you not satisfied? indeed it was asked by Mr. Ash in his previous mail. to which i can only say that, i am and was always satisfied with what i have and what god has bestowed to me..Never ever looked into my Chart even when fixing THIS Marriage...Because i came from a family with full of happiness, having full cercle in a family, that i am being an Elder Son to my parents, with One loving younger brother and younger siter..and with lot of relatives, frinds circle, and my father being a trouble shooter in family disputes among our relatives and in our community and my mother being a devotee of God and godess in fact she herself don't know how many temples she visits, and perform pujas in a month we all in our family including my father, used to joke with her BUT My father and all are always obliged to what she said when it came to Gods/Temple visits or performing any pujas. Nobody can imagine a person (My mother in this case) suffered two times STROKE (pyaralesses attack) and having low BP till today works from 6:00 AM to night 11:00 PM doing household chores with same activness as she was before when we (Kids) were young. Its otherway round in my case i have seen my Father how he's grown from selling Soda bottles in the streets in rural taluka place and then becoming a Businessman dealing in Electrical and Electronic goods establishing his own shop!! he used to work hard tirelessly and esstablished himself in moderatly good postision in his own business. Though i was helping him in his business along with my studies i do had my bad share of blowing his hard earned wealth with my lavish spending that's another matter... But end of the day...in our family all are like friends, people in our community used (still) to look at our family as a role model litterly come to father for any guidance..I am not boasting myself or my family i am telling the TRUTH... and trying to convey my background as to how i grown-up in an environment which may help to solve the Mystery of my chart and MAY provide me some Clues, concrete solution with the future events. I am sorry for being too personal and deviating from the subject for a while.. I will not comment on your (Mr. Ramesh's) KAS analysis as i am studying the KAS chapters one by one and once i understand bit more then i shall intevine and clarify. Mr. Ash wrote: //Rectification might be required.// With regard to my chart i have an authentic birth record i.e my Kundali which clearly mentioned. 10:39 AM and as mentioned earlier upon suggestion of one astrologer i started to use 10:47 AM Tithi:30. Amavaasya 10.02.1975 08:20 to 11.02.1975 10:48 Nakshatra:22. Sravana 9.02.1975 21:50 to 11.02.1975 00:41 Yoga:17. Vyatipata 9.02.1975 15:26 to 10.02.1975 16:09 Karana: 9. Chatuspada10.02.1975 08:20 to 10.02.1975 21:33 At this time Moon is: 16°22'27 " in Makara Rashi Ayanamsa(Lahiri) at this time: 23°30'54 " With regard to My? Wife's birth data it was given by her Mother and found it to be correct as some statements and comments from this girl and her Mother.. Soon after marriage, in one of our family gatherings her Mother just and suddenly told us that, her daughter (now my wife) was destined to be a famous film star but somehow things couldn't worked out!!!! after her behaviours i started asking about this seriously initially she just used to make light comments (False) One day herslef told me one astrologer whom they have contacted before our marriage told them!! due to Strong Shukra Placed in lagna and Vergottama and most importently she was borne in Bharani Nakshatra which is ruled by Venus!!! " she can become a Star!! " this was her statement!!!...Then i asked her why did't u persue that career? again her false comments and instead she started blaming entire Film Industry be'coz of her faliures!! Parallally i started to become a more protective considering her behaviours and constant lies, and did some fact findings and came to know that, she along with her Mother tried a lot to get into the film industry in fact i came to know about her Mother's tantrik dispostion and doing some tantrik (Maata Mantra) to achieve their goal!!!! instead of working hard and honestly....!!! Despite all these i told her Now you are my Wife forget about what all happened in the Past..now God has made us to achieve something TOGETHER with hard work, dedication, and with love..come with me we'll work towards that....Her reply Nill in fact she started to break me and my parents and insisting a separate home!!!!..oh..God give me a break... //In any case, there has been separation.// I know BUT the question is how and when will this marriage end...if you want me to be still OPTIMISTIC then take my this question how and when will the IMPASSE end? Hope this mail of mine is not that boring to read and pardon me for any inconvenience caused to anybody.. With regards Chandu //Still, we need more events to confirm all this. A good chart for practice// though. Now , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > One thing, back in 1958, as per that time and as per the village and social > customs if a girl was married at the age of 13-15 then 22 years would be > considered delay. > > > > Let me explain something. These laws given and if u keenly observe all the > mails even the mail in which Krushanji solved for our Late Peterji, > Krushanji had asked, what is considered normal age of marriage as per that > time and in UK. Then based on that the laws of delay were applied. > > > > Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable age > in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to come > to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. > > > > Now in north America, people marry a bit later than India on an average, so > say if early marriage is 24 then delay might be 24 + 7.5 = 31.5 or 32 years > or even more if Ju is causing delay. > > > > So it's imperative that u apply the desh, kaal paatra principle first and > identify that was was the normal trend at that point in time and as per the > society of some village or customs back in those days. > > > > So I hope this is clear. > > > > Now in this case, first of all the time is given as 4:00 AM. Is this > accurate time? Maybe it is and Maybe it isn't. > > > > Now, more events are not given to verify this. So to assume blindly that > any time given is correct is not proper, one must verify the events. > > > > Now for practice, say you are taking this chart, then here u can see Delay. > Ju is in libra, Ve in nak of sun, lagna and 9th lords in 5:9 but lagna lord > itself is in libra and causing delay as well, i.e. the blessing giving one > of the lord. Sa is in 5th house so again delay. So based on this there is > much delay. There are also 2 zeroes. > > > > So this chart as per current age and day might give delay of say 30-32 > years. Now that is based on marriageable age of 21. Now, if early marriage > back in that time was say 11-14 then 22 years might be considered very > delayed which would be in line. > > > > Now if marriageable age was not such then ........ > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of ramesh mishra > Sunday January 6, 2008 10:02 AM > > RE: Re: Chart study and future events > > > > Dear Ash and group, > > Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there > marriage was delayed. > > Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980 and > since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such. > > Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India > > Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India. > > I did not see male chart and found the following points in female chart with > an intention to validate her marriage date. > > 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the blessings > but Ju is spoiled being in Libra. > > 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both. > > 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries. > > 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su. > > 5.Su to Ve distance is OK. > > She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+. > > What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ? > > Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of Sa > and Ju in marriage ? > > If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb 1975 ) ? > > For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected by Ju > (12th of 5th) with malefic sight. > > For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS. > > Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ? > > All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the result of > 5th. > > Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th. > > Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house. > > If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for 11th. > > In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of child. > > When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed with > child. > > The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing > through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr 2008 and > till now no information of conception. > > Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ? > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly > happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some > temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. > > Ju has the highest power and is LoE. > > Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to Mo. > Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more > chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in blessing. > > Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma antra then > it would break. > > Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will have > to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points are > valid. > > Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as well. > Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this in > many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a thing to > me in some chat of mind some time back. > > You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for childbirth. > > > Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising from > Moon, > > Now, delay in his wife's chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 zero. She > married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it > will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very daring as > well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. > > She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might hurt > her ego. > > In any case, there has been separation. > > Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would give > separation. > > Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. > > Rectification might be required. > > I am out of time. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > _____ > > > > On Behalf Of ramesh mishra > Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM > > RE: Re: Chart study and future events > > Dear Ash, Anup and group, > > For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar > 59. > > He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. > > This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him > probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. > > There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 > during Ra -Su. > > Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. > > Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . > > Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or > is there any other reason ? > > I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being > associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. > > Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart > indicates disharmony in their married life. > > While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 > points. > > Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. > > From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. > > SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate > over him. > > His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so > the conflict is going on between them. > > When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 > SAV points. > > Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during > Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. > > Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who > came first. > > Ju is also weak in 5th house. > > Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of > child occurred in Ju antara. > > Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve > and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the > event of 5th house. > > We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve > being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? > > Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. > > I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. > > May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > " ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Chandu, > > It's not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing > some problem or the other. > > Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness > to get answer. > > You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. > So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail > giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. > > You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer > based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has > not satisfied you. > > So what will? > > You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so > sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. > > Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling > out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time > has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just > so that you know. > > I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did > see there was some issues in your chart. > > One thing, you might have heard this old adage, " A rolling stone gathers no > moss " . So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. > > Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, > but something is still there that is nagging you and u can't seem to come to > terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, > one astrologer to the other. > > In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my > suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, > they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer > your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. > > Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual > persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. > > If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u > think this will help u find an answer. > > Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, > > 1) Download the lessons from Donna's website at http://krushna. > <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> sageasita.com > > 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending > countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit > all. > > 3) Go thought the FAQ's and KAS Visuals on Donna's site - She has put in a > lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS > > 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when > Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions > to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with > lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives > of Krushnaji's mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u > re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. > > 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not > yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for > which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons > who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down > along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. > > 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not > something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first > step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and > effort in learning KAS. > > 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of > our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u > have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank > at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from > your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. > > Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with > your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial > to you over the long run. > > If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my > intension. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > _____ > > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill > Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM > > Re: Chart study and future events > > Dear Sir, > > Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i > need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that > matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future > predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish > (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable > Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my > present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that > manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and > fourums.... > > //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// > > Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still > trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i > totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with > his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the > learned people like you.... > > Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which > suggested... > > //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning > specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and > try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, > ask for assistance and help will be offered. > > If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should > furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be > helpful for study.// > > //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// > > My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli > casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is > 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka > with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 > AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned > him at that time... > > Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have > that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my > current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when > i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of > differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of > variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with > Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's > positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we > know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! > > //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All > systems are good.// > > With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior > other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a > more convincing to me... > > Hope i will learn more and understand myself > > Please forgive me for putting my details here.... > > With regards > > Chandu > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. > Besides that, > > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in > your > > marriage and also career. > > > > > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > > > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > other > > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems > are good. > > > > > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > Chandu2chill > > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Chart study and futre events > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > > all.. > > > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it > to > > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my > (still) > > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > > events will be highly appreciated > > > > 1) Complete birth data. > > Myself: > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > > Wife: > > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > > > Child: Baby Girl > > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars > period > > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also > change > > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > > has 41 Points... > > > > Some past events for study > > > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- > stored > > on March-April 05. > > > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder > people > > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no > communications > > > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes > now > > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > > left me again > > > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > > insights on below future events > > > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > > happen? > > > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my > dreams > > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, > financially, > > and in my professional life.. > > > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a > Techno- > > commercial sales Pro.. > > > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > > only way...? > > > > Appreciate your time... > > > > Regards > > > > Chann > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Chandu and List members, This might be a case to note how Astrology might have spoiled a young couples life. I feel very sad hearing this. Sometimes its better to keep aside astrology and have faith in one’s own efforts and not touch astrology. To use astrology only in very dire needs when one looses all hope and Jyotish can be used to help a troubled soul find hope in their darkest hour. So many times Krushanji has hinted me this, particularly when one checks his or her own chart when studying. I think with each passing day, his words told me out of experience right true and help me understand their depth. Ofcouse as normal humans, one has a tendency to check one’s own chart for that one needs to rise to a particular level of spirituality to overcome that, which might come easily to some and with more difficulty to others. After solving many charts one begins to realize what it might mean to understand the meaning of “karmanye Vaadhika-raste, Maa Phaleshu Kadachana; Maa karma-phala-hetur-bhoorma, MaTe sangostwakarmini.” Meaning “Your right is to work only, But never to its fruits; Let not the fruits of action be thy motive, Nor let thy attachment be to inaction.” Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chandu2chill Tuesday January 8, 2008 7:30 AM Subject: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Mr. Ramesh, and Mr. Ash, First of all my sincere thanks to you all for taking out your valuable time to study my chart...i am greatful to you. Before i write anything, allow me to state that, i feel and really honored most among any astro help seeker in the entire that i am d to.. i am fortunate to get insights and readings from Many learned, highly skilled Gurus of this science called " Jyotish " i can name each induvidual who have responded to my queries rather repeated queries with their selflessness and kind guesture towards me. I am thankful to them all including those from whom i got slapped for asking again and again....i respect them all!! Now you may ask then why are you not satisfied? indeed it was asked by Mr. Ash in his previous mail. to which i can only say that, i am and was always satisfied with what i have and what god has bestowed to me..Never ever looked into my Chart even when fixing THIS Marriage...Because i came from a family with full of happiness, having full cercle in a family, that i am being an Elder Son to my parents, with One loving younger brother and younger siter..and with lot of relatives, frinds circle, and my father being a trouble shooter in family disputes among our relatives and in our community and my mother being a devotee of God and godess in fact she herself don't know how many temples she visits, and perform pujas in a month we all in our family including my father, used to joke with her BUT My father and all are always obliged to what she said when it came to Gods/Temple visits or performing any pujas. Nobody can imagine a person (My mother in this case) suffered two times STROKE (pyaralesses attack) and having low BP till today works from 6:00 AM to night 11:00 PM doing household chores with same activness as she was before when we (Kids) were young. Its otherway round in my case i have seen my Father how he's grown from selling Soda bottles in the streets in rural taluka place and then becoming a Businessman dealing in Electrical and Electronic goods establishing his own shop!! he used to work hard tirelessly and esstablished himself in moderatly good postision in his own business. Though i was helping him in his business along with my studies i do had my bad share of blowing his hard earned wealth with my lavish spending that's another matter... But end of the day...in our family all are like friends, people in our community used (still) to look at our family as a role model litterly come to father for any guidance..I am not boasting myself or my family i am telling the TRUTH... and trying to convey my background as to how i grown-up in an environment which may help to solve the Mystery of my chart and MAY provide me some Clues, concrete solution with the future events. I am sorry for being too personal and deviating from the subject for a while.. I will not comment on your (Mr. Ramesh's) KAS analysis as i am studying the KAS chapters one by one and once i understand bit more then i shall intevine and clarify. Mr. Ash wrote: //Rectification might be required.// With regard to my chart i have an authentic birth record i.e my Kundali which clearly mentioned. 10:39 AM and as mentioned earlier upon suggestion of one astrologer i started to use 10:47 AM Tithi:30. Amavaasya 10.02.1975 08:20 to 11.02.1975 10:48 Nakshatra:22. Sravana 9.02.1975 21:50 to 11.02.1975 00:41 Yoga:17. Vyatipata 9.02.1975 15:26 to 10.02.1975 16:09 Karana: 9. Chatuspada10.02.1975 08:20 to 10.02.1975 21:33 At this time Moon is: 16°22'27 " in Makara Rashi Ayanamsa(Lahiri) at this time: 23°30'54 " With regard to My? Wife's birth data it was given by her Mother and found it to be correct as some statements and comments from this girl and her Mother.. Soon after marriage, in one of our family gatherings her Mother just and suddenly told us that, her daughter (now my wife) was destined to be a famous film star but somehow things couldn't worked out!!!! after her behaviours i started asking about this seriously initially she just used to make light comments (False) One day herslef told me one astrologer whom they have contacted before our marriage told them!! due to Strong Shukra Placed in lagna and Vergottama and most importently she was borne in Bharani Nakshatra which is ruled by Venus!!! " she can become a Star!! " this was her statement!!!...Then i asked her why did't u persue that career? again her false comments and instead she started blaming entire Film Industry be'coz of her faliures!! Parallally i started to become a more protective considering her behaviours and constant lies, and did some fact findings and came to know that, she along with her Mother tried a lot to get into the film industry in fact i came to know about her Mother's tantrik dispostion and doing some tantrik (Maata Mantra) to achieve their goal!!!! instead of working hard and honestly....!!! Despite all these i told her Now you are my Wife forget about what all happened in the Past..now God has made us to achieve something TOGETHER with hard work, dedication, and with love..come with me we'll work towards that....Her reply Nill in fact she started to break me and my parents and insisting a separate home!!!!..oh..God give me a break... //In any case, there has been separation.// I know BUT the question is how and when will this marriage end...if you want me to be still OPTIMISTIC then take my this question how and when will the IMPASSE end? Hope this mail of mine is not that boring to read and pardon me for any inconvenience caused to anybody.. With regards Chandu //Still, we need more events to confirm all this. A good chart for practice// though. Now , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > One thing, back in 1958, as per that time and as per the village and social > customs if a girl was married at the age of 13-15 then 22 years would be > considered delay. > > > > Let me explain something. These laws given and if u keenly observe all the > mails even the mail in which Krushanji solved for our Late Peterji, > Krushanji had asked, what is considered normal age of marriage as per that > time and in UK. Then based on that the laws of delay were applied. > > > > Now, Sa can cause delay of 7.5 years i.e. 3 signs. Now if marriageable age > in India for Male is 21 then 21 + 7.5 = 27.5 that is why we take Sa to come > to 0 deg of 1 sign behind. > > > > Now in north America, people marry a bit later than India on an average, so > say if early marriage is 24 then delay might be 24 + 7.5 = 31.5 or 32 years > or even more if Ju is causing delay. > > > > So it's imperative that u apply the desh, kaal paatra principle first and > identify that was was the normal trend at that point in time and as per the > society of some village or customs back in those days. > > > > So I hope this is clear. > > > > Now in this case, first of all the time is given as 4:00 AM. Is this > accurate time? Maybe it is and Maybe it isn't. > > > > Now, more events are not given to verify this. So to assume blindly that > any time given is correct is not proper, one must verify the events. > > > > Now for practice, say you are taking this chart, then here u can see Delay. > Ju is in libra, Ve in nak of sun, lagna and 9th lords in 5:9 but lagna lord > itself is in libra and causing delay as well, i.e. the blessing giving one > of the lord. Sa is in 5th house so again delay. So based on this there is > much delay. There are also 2 zeroes. > > > > So this chart as per current age and day might give delay of say 30-32 > years. Now that is based on marriageable age of 21. Now, if early marriage > back in that time was say 11-14 then 22 years might be considered very > delayed which would be in line. > > > > Now if marriageable age was not such then ........ > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of ramesh mishra > Sunday January 6, 2008 10:02 AM > > RE: Re: Chart study and future events > > > > Dear Ash and group, > > Yesterday we checked up a chart in which in spite of blessings there > marriage was delayed. > > Now hereunder I got the chart of a couple who married on 30 June 1980 and > since then they are without progeny.Their birth details are as such. > > Female - 19 Feb 1958, 4:00 AM , Chennai 13 N 4, 80 E 15. India > > Male - 11 Oct 1952, 07:07 AM, 16 N 10 , 81 E 08, India. > > I did not see male chart and found the following points in female chart with > an intention to validate her marriage date. > > 1. Blessings are present in the chart and Ju is involved in the blessings > but Ju is spoiled being in Libra. > > 2.Full delay is due to Ju and Sa both. > > 3. Sa aspects both the luminaries. > > 4. Ve is in the nakshtra ruled by Su. > > 5.Su to Ve distance is OK. > > She married in Ju -Ve at the age of 22+. > > What do you think , is this marriage date is correct with this chart ? > > Do this blessings occurrence is correct to negate the combine delay of Sa > and Ju in marriage ? > > If it is correct then why it is not in that chart of Chandu (10 Feb 1975 ) ? > > For the issue of child birth, her 5th is occupied by Ke and aspected by Ju > (12th of 5th) with malefic sight. > > For 5th Ma is FK and Ju is NK. Both are weak in WS. > > Is this reason sufficient for the issue of denial ? > > All the antaras have passed during Sa MD. No planet could give the result of > 5th. > > Now Me MD is running. Me is in house D for 5th and in house A for 7th. > > Me is also strong in WS for 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th house. > > If you consider 11th for conception as B then Me becomes 12th lord for 11th. > > In this case also no chance of conception, forget about the birth of child. > > When this chart is with blessings then the native should be blessed with > child. > > The matter of 5th is delayed by the aspect of Sa and native is passing > through the antara of third sector in Me. This will be over on Apr 2008 and > till now no information of conception. > > Then what will be the sult of child birth and when ? > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Moon here is with 6th lord. Moon is LoD that is correct. What exactly > happened in Mo antra that only Chandu can say. Moon might give some > temporary relation more platonic which might not materialize. > > Ju has the highest power and is LoE. > > Ju is SD to 6th lord as well, but it has highest power. Its also SD to Mo. > Its in the other sign of 6th lord i.e Mercury in navamsa. So here more > chances of marriage due to blessing as Ju itself is involved in blessing. > > Now I do hear you about the fact that if Marriage was in Me or Ma antra then > it would break. > > Now notice here, there is separation but no divorce. So more work will have > to be done on this chart to ascertain the true facts. All your points are > valid. > > Now regarding child birth, yes Ju is NK and FK and its SD to Ve as well. > Its with low power so it might give a girl child. I have observed this in > many charts as well and I do remember Krushnaji mentioning such a thing to > me in some chat of mind some time back. > > You will have to study the chart of the female more closely for childbirth. > > > Now check his wifes chart Ve to Sun 46, Sa asp Ve, DBCE points rising from > Moon, > > Now, delay in his wife's chart with the data given is of Ju and 1 zero. She > married in Ve antra and the status of Venus is spoilt. It is LoE so it > will give timing but she is too hot headed and egoistic and very daring as > well. She also has 3 sectors of Ju. > > She might not get along with her mother in law and anything said might hurt > her ego. > > In any case, there has been separation. > > Now the big question, if they married in Ma antra then Ju antra would give > separation. > > Now she is going through Ra antra and its weak for 7th house. > > Rectification might be required. > > I am out of time. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > _____ > > > > On Behalf Of ramesh mishra > Saturday January 5, 2008 9:56 AM > > RE: Re: Chart study and future events > > Dear Ash, Anup and group, > > For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar > 59. > > He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. > > This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him > probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. > > There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 > during Ra -Su. > > Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. > > Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . > > Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or > is there any other reason ? > > I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being > associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. > > Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart > indicates disharmony in their married life. > > While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 > points. > > Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. > > From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. > > SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate > over him. > > His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so > the conflict is going on between them. > > When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 > SAV points. > > Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during > Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. > > Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who > came first. > > Ju is also weak in 5th house. > > Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of > child occurred in Ju antara. > > Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve > and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the > event of 5th house. > > We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve > being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? > > Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. > > I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. > > May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > " ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Chandu, > > It's not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing > some problem or the other. > > Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness > to get answer. > > You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. > So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail > giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. > > You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer > based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has > not satisfied you. > > So what will? > > You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so > sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. > > Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling > out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time > has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just > so that you know. > > I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did > see there was some issues in your chart. > > One thing, you might have heard this old adage, " A rolling stone gathers no > moss " . So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. > > Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, > but something is still there that is nagging you and u can't seem to come to > terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, > one astrologer to the other. > > In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my > suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, > they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer > your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. > > Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual > persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. > > If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u > think this will help u find an answer. > > Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, > > 1) Download the lessons from Donna's website at http://krushna. > <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> sageasita.com > > 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending > countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit > all. > > 3) Go thought the FAQ's and KAS Visuals on Donna's site - She has put in a > lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS > > 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when > Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions > to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with > lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives > of Krushnaji's mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u > re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. > > 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not > yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for > which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons > who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down > along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. > > 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not > something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first > step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and > effort in learning KAS. > > 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of > our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u > have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank > at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from > your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. > > Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with > your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial > to you over the long run. > > If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my > intension. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > _____ > > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill > Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM > > Re: Chart study and future events > > Dear Sir, > > Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i > need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that > matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future > predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish > (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable > Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my > present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that > manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and > fourums.... > > //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// > > Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still > trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i > totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with > his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the > learned people like you.... > > Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which > suggested... > > //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning > specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and > try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, > ask for assistance and help will be offered. > > If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should > furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be > helpful for study.// > > //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// > > My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli > casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is > 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka > with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 > AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned > him at that time... > > Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have > that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my > current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when > i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of > differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of > variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with > Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's > positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we > know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! > > //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All > systems are good.// > > With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior > other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a > more convincing to me... > > Hope i will learn more and understand myself > > Please forgive me for putting my details here.... > > With regards > > Chandu > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Chandu, > > > > > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. > Besides that, > > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in > your > > marriage and also career. > > > > > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > > > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You > have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any > other > > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems > are good. > > > > > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > Chandu2chill > > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Chart study and futre events > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > > all.. > > > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it > to > > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my > (still) > > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > > events will be highly appreciated > > > > 1) Complete birth data. > > Myself: > > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > > Wife: > > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > > > Child: Baby Girl > > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars > period > > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also > change > > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > > has 41 Points... > > > > Some past events for study > > > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- > stored > > on March-April 05. > > > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder > people > > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no > communications > > > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes > now > > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > > left me again > > > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > > insights on below future events > > > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > > happen? > > > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my > dreams > > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, > financially, > > and in my professional life.. > > > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a > Techno- > > commercial sales Pro.. > > > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > > only way...? > > > > Appreciate your time... > > > > Regards > > > > Chann > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > Download prohibited? 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Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Ramesh, Thanks for your elaboration. If I understood you properly, you have mentioned that if third and 4th house lords have relation then there will be conflict and ditto for 1st and 5th house. But, why should this cause conflict. I understood that you have not been able to identify the mail in archive, but in case you do remember the reasoning do please share. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:15 PM To: RE: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Manu, Me is third lord and Mo is fourth so relationship between third and fourth lord. Same way Su and Ma relation is between first and fifth. That is what I tried to put it through. I have read it somewhere either in archives or in lesson. I tried to find it out for quotation, couldnot find. But I am sure. Thanks. Ramesh Mishra Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Ramesh, Can you please elaborate on the following: “His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them.” I did not understand it well. Maybe I am missing on something. Thanks & Regards, Manu On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:26 PM RE: Re: Chart study and future events Dear Ash, Anup and group, For learning purpose I casted the Chandu's chart and I found asc. as 6 Ar 59. He was married on 19 Dec 2004 during Ju- Ju. This chart shows blessings in navamsa but this blessings could not help him probably 9th lord Ju is in navamsa of Me, the 6th lord. There is delay of Sa and Ju both .This combine delay is over on 13 Jun 2001 during Ra -Su. Next antara was that of Mo who is LoD for 7th as B.Mo is weak in 12th in WS. Mo is also associated with 6th lord in rasi and placed in Ge navamsa . Is this the reason Mo antara could not give the marriage to this native or is there any other reason ? I tried to find out the reason and came to the conclusion the Mo being associated with 6th lord hence it has spoiled its significance. Am I correct ? I am not going in detail but I can say that this chart indicates disharmony in their married life. While comparing 7th lord from lagna , Su and Mo, it accumulates only 20 points. Lagna and its 7th Ma/Ve is in 3/11. From Su , Mo and their 7th Mo / Sa is in 6/8. SAV points in lagna is 25 and that in 7th is 31 so his spouse will dominate over him. His Su and Ma relationship is 2/12 and Mo ,Me together aspect 4th house, so the conflict is going on between them. When you cast the chart of his spouse you may find that her lagna is with 41 SAV points. Actually his marriage should have happened either during Me antara or during Ma antara who has lowest points in WS for 7th. Marriage happened during Ju antara who is LoE but not during Mo antara who came first. Ju is also weak in 5th house. Now the child was born on 14 Nov 2005. It means conception and birth of child occurred in Ju antara. Ju is both NK and FK for 5th and it is weak for 5th in WS. However both Ve and Ju aspects 5th with malefic sight. Ju should not come forward for the event of 5th house. We may assume that Ju is SD to Ve LoD for 5th but how Ju can replace Ve being himself weak for 5th and 11th house matter ? Ju is also SD to Mo LoE for 11th. For 11th also Ju is weak in WS. I could not understand the role of Ju in case of child birth and conception. May I request the forum to make this confusion clear ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra " ash " <kas wrote: Dear Chandu, It’s not only you but many people get into Astrology due to someone facing some problem or the other. Now, the question that beckons is that what will satisfy your consciousness to get answer. You have asked your chart, on so many lists, I have personally seen that. So many astrologers or knowledgeable persons have replied to your mail giving you their replies but some how it does not satisfy you. You keep going from one system to the other, or even when some astrologer based on his knowledge has given you answer / rectified your chart it has not satisfied you. So what will? You have judged KAS just based on a few days of study, so what makes you so sure that any reply given here will satisfy you. Yes, I could have solved your chart, infact I did, but with-held spelling out your chart for you just for that reason. Why did I ask you if your time has been rectified? That was due to something I found in your chart, just so that you know. I gave you hints, on the approach, spent the time of my day, because I did see there was some issues in your chart. One thing, you might have heard this old adage, “A rolling stone gathers no moss”. So please first ask yourself, what will satisfy you. Yes, KAS or any astrology system can give u an answer and it has given you, but something is still there that is nagging you and u can’t seem to come to terms with it so maybe that is why you are going from one system to another, one astrologer to the other. In any case, its not my place to recommend you or give you advise, but my suggestion or consider this as a remedy, is to go to a good psychiatrist, they are well trained professionals and they might help you deal or answer your questions that will satisfy you or help u come to terms with it. Other way is more spiritual and for that you might contact some spiritual persons or read the Gita or any other book as per your religion or liking. If you are interested to LEARN KAS, then make an attempt on your chart, if u think this will help u find an answer. Should you choose to learn KAS, here is what I suggest, 1) Download the lessons from Donna’s website at http://krushna.sageasita.com 2) Download the free program of KAS. We have made this after spending countless hours and burning midnight oil in the hope that it will benefit all. 3) Go thought the FAQ’s and KAS Visuals on Donna’s site – She has put in a lot of hours and a lot of effort and put in lots of pictures to simplify KAS 4) Go though the Archives, while you are reading the lessons as when Krushnaji gave the lessons, the senior members had asked lots of questions to Krushnaji and he had clarified many things. Each messages is loaded with lots of information. You will see many members, referring to the archives of Krushnaji’s mails on this list. As the knowledge grows and when u re-visit the mails, more and more things get cleared. 5) Solve charts that are in the archives or charts that u have which is not yours or your loved ones as u will be biased. If you have some charts, for which the birth time is accurate, and life events, particularly of persons who are older and for who u have lots of events, note all the events down along with dates, and apply the lessons slowly. 6) Accept the fact, that learning KAS will be a life long journey, its not something that u can learn overnight or in few days or years. So the first step will be to mentally accept that you are willing to invest your time and effort in learning KAS. 7) Be sincere and Honest in your learnings and effort and have a blessing of our Teacher Krushnaji. Without blessings no matter how much knowledge u have, its no use. Even when you know the answer, your mind might go blank at critical times. For blessings to be showered, you must earn that from your teacher by your hard work and sincere effort. Please take this mail in good faith Chanu. I would rather you deal with your issues from its root that find temporary fix. That will be beneficial to you over the long run. If this mail, hurts my, please accept my apology as that is not my intension. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chandu2chill Thursday January 3, 2008 4:07 AM Re: Chart study and future events Dear Sir, Thank you for your response and advise... i do understand that i need to study myself in-depth to understand any system for that matter to come to a proper conclusion of an events/future predictions.... BUT i strongly feel that this great science Jyotish (any system) must be studied under the tutelage of knowledgeable Guru ji like you...mere studying on the net won't help much but my present situation/cercumstances are not conducive to study in that manner..be it whatever system..i am just learning on the net and fourums.... //For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside.// Sir, i got into astrology when problem(s) started....and still trying to understand my chart to find any solutions for future i totally agree with you that, one should not study the astrology with his/her own chart..Hence i put here for more insights from the learned people like you.... Morever before putting my chart details i read your Home page which suggested... //New members may want some advice on their charts concerning specific problems. Please be advised to study the lessons first and try to solve the chart yourself. Then, if you still have difficulty, ask for assistance and help will be offered. If some members want to post a chart for study purposes, they should furnish the following details along with the chart, so it will be helpful for study.// //Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time.// My birth details are proavided by my parents who have my Kundli casted at the time of my birth. Only the time mentioned there is 10:39 AM when i met with some senior Astrologer in Belgaum Karnataka with his study he corrected it himslef and told us the Time is 10:47 AM i honestly don't know on what basis he said nor did i questioned him at that time... Later with my little study i thought diff of 8 Mins will not have that much impact or changes the whole picture of my chart and my current situtation(s) OR my Future events to predict...BUT yes when i play with Diff Ayanamsas in JHora s/w there's some degree of differences in planets in D-1 Chart. But D-9 is changing with lot of variations just for an Eg: if i use Lahiri or KP Ayanamsa check with Visa-vis with KAS and Raman's My lagna gets changed, Saturn's positon chages...and hence i am facing dificulties undertand as we know D-9 is for studying SPOUSE!!! //All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good.// With due respect to all systems i did not mean KAS is superior other's not or Visa-vis...What i meant was i found it (KAS) to be a more convincing to me... Hope i will learn more and understand myself Please forgive me for putting my details here.... With regards Chandu , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Chandu, > > > > For Learning KAS, it is suggested to keep your chart aside. Besides that, > your WS will easily tell u your marriage time and problem time in your > marriage and also career. > > > > Why u got married in Ju antra, for that its as simple as > > > > 1) calculate your delay period > > 2) Check WS and see the power of Ju. > > 3) See the power of Sa as well in WS > > > Before that, maybe rectification is required for your chart. You have not given the source and accuracy of your birth time. > > > > All systems are good, no one system is superior or inferior to any other > system, let us not compare and put down any system. All systems are good. > > > > Happy new Year to you as well. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Chandu2chill > Wednesday January 2, 2008 4:44 AM > > Chart study and futre events > > > > Dear Group, > > Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW YEAR..May God bless > all.. > > I am new to this forum and was reading KAS, i personally found it to > be a more promising in providing near accurate predictions then > other system that i looked into and hence posting my and my (still) > wife's chart for study any of your future predictions on this i.e > events will be highly appreciated > > 1) Complete birth data. > Myself: > DOB: 10th Feb 1975 TOB: 10:47 AM POB: Nargund, Karnataka India > Latitude: 015:43:N/Longitude: 075:23:E > Wife: > DOB: 31st Aug 1980 TOB: 2:45 AM POB: Chitradurga Karnataka > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > Marriage date: 19th Dec 2004 Time: 10:30 AM to 11:30 AM > > Child: Baby Girl > DOB: 14th Nov, 2005. TOB: 8:40 PM POB: Chitradurga > Latitude: 014:14:N/Longitude: 076:24:E, > > As per Lahiri Ayanamsa, marriage took place during Rahu-Mars period > but in KAS system it shows Jup-Jup period...and there's also change > in planetery positions in D-9 with KAS Ayanamsa.. Hence i am uable > to make proper outcome of this marriage.. > > We just lived 90 Days since marriage, and she's very adamant, non- > caring, and emotionless girl which i can see as her 1st BAV point > has 41 Points... > > Some past events for study > > She joined me in Gulf state where i was working on 10th Feb 2005 > > I was terminated from the Job on 28th Feb 2005 But job was re- stored > on March-April 05. > > Wife left me with unborn child on 17th April 05 > > Btwn Nov 05 to Jan 06 there were some negotiations with elder people > to reconcile but no success. After that almost 1 yr no communications > > Meanwhile i resigned job...and there after frequent job changes now > working as a freelancer here in Gulf state... > > During Jup-Sat i.e. on May 07 to June 07 again for about 7 days we > both were together..but her old adamant nature continued and she > left me again > > It would be helpful if any learned people out here provide me some > insights on below future events > > Is there any Divorce indicated in the chart? if yes when will it > happen? > > Any re-union possibilities? if yes when? > > I have lot of desires and dreams to acheive in my professional and > personal life but this marriage and these events shattered my dreams > and made me very depressing and i am lost emotionally, financially, > and in my professional life.. > > Currently i am into IT Hardware and Networing Industry i am a Techno- > commercial sales Pro.. > > Is my chart indicates anything of doing own Business in the same > line of activities or working for somebody else is the (Job)is the > only way...? > > Appreciate your time... > > Regards > > Chann > Download prohibited? 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