Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Ash, Thanks for the clarification on " delay by Saturn to be 27.5 years " . This particular example is for marriage( 7th house as house B). Pl clarify how to calculate delay by Saturn on other houses e.g. 1. For child birth ( 5th house as B), if Sat is in 3rd House, it will aspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for child birth. How much delay should be taken into account to have a child birth. 2. For the Job ( 5th house as B),if Sat is in 4th House, it will aspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for JOB. How much delay should be taken into account to get the JOB. 3. Similarly, for the other houses/. Thanks and Regards Sanjiva Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Sanjiva, Only 5th house might not be an issue. Even 8th house is important for both male for the quality of semen and 8th for female that is ovaries. So here, in my understanding and this we will have to test it as more charts come is say Sa is in 5th house and assume 8th house is healthy no 0’s in 9th house, the Karak and Karak sthan are not afflicted by Ma and Ra, marriage in high power planet etc etc, so assuming all things are good, then delay might be over when Sa will aspect lagna. I think in one mail I had wrttien this, if memory serves me right, Satish had asked this question. I had asked this to Krushnaji. I am going to India, and will spend time with Krushnaji so I shall try to clarify these things as well and try to grasp the logic. Sometimes what happens is that I try to jump ahead and then some of the logic gets missed out, and that is not fair to Krushanji, that I have come to learn the hard way. Many a times, I have tried to ask Krushanji, and poor Krushnaji tries to answer thinking I have understood many other factors. Now, I try to curb my enthusiasm and let Krushnaji explain things slowly and then I take that and practice it on many charts. So for child birth, if memory serves me correctly, if there is delay then that delay might get over when Sa aspects lagna. Now why, lagna that logic I am not 100% clear. I shall try to find out and will note this email down in my “to ask Krushanji” list. J Sometimes, in some charts you also find that couples get child after long time, sometimes after 12 years too. That might be 1 round of Ju as well. If such charts come let us solve. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Sanjiva Sharma Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:46 AM Delay By Saturn Dear Ash, Thanks for the clarification on " delay by Saturn to be 27.5 years " . This particular example is for marriage( 7th house as house B). Pl clarify how to calculate delay by Saturn on other houses e.g. 1. For child birth ( 5th house as B), if Sat is in 3rd House, it will aspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for child birth. How much delay should be taken into account to have a child birth. 2. For the Job ( 5th house as B),if Sat is in 4th House, it will aspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for JOB. How much delay should be taken into account to get the JOB. 3. Similarly, for the other houses/. Thanks and Regards Sanjiva Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Ash, I think the following post by Krushnaji may have some relevance to your mail /message/2809 Regards Anup "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Sanjiva, Only 5th house might not be an issue. Even 8th house is important for both male for the quality of semen and 8th for female that is ovaries. So here, in my understanding and this we will have to test it as more charts come is say Sa is in 5th house and assume 8th house is healthy no 0’s in 9th house, the Karak and Karak sthan are not afflicted by Ma and Ra, marriage in high power planet etc etc, so assuming all things are good, then delay might be over when Sa will aspect lagna. I think in one mail I had wrttien this, if memory serves me right, Satish had asked this question. I had asked this to Krushnaji. I am going to India, and will spend time with Krushnaji so I shall try to clarify these things as well and try to grasp the logic. Sometimes what happens is that I try to jump ahead and then some of the logic gets missed out, and that is not fair to Krushanji, that I have come to learn the hard way. Many a times, I have tried to ask Krushanji, and poor Krushnaji tries to answer thinking I have understood many other factors. Now, I try to curb my enthusiasm and let Krushnaji explain things slowly and then I take that and practice it on many charts. So for child birth, if memory serves me correctly, if there is delay then that delay might get over when Sa aspects lagna. Now why, lagna that logic I am not 100% clear. I shall try to find out and will note this email down in my “to ask Krushanji” list. J Sometimes, in some charts you also find that couples get child after long time, sometimes after 12 years too. That might be 1 round of Ju as well. If such charts come let us solve. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Sanjiva SharmaTuesday January 8, 2008 5:46 AM Subject: Delay By Saturn Dear Ash,Thanks for the clarification on " delay by Saturn to be 27.5 years".This particular example is for marriage( 7th house as house B).Pl clarify how to calculate delay by Saturn on other houses e.g.1. For child birth ( 5th house as B), if Sat is in 3rd House, it willaspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for child birth. How much delayshould be taken into account to have a child birth.2. For the Job ( 5th house as B),if Sat is in 4th House, it will aspectall houses i.e. A, B, C houses for JOB. How much delay should be takeninto account to get the JOB.3. Similarly, for the other houses/.Thanks and RegardsSanjiva Sharma Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Anup, Thanks. Yes this is a good mail. Thanks for digging it up from the archives. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. M Tuesday January 8, 2008 1:43 PM RE: Delay By Saturn Dear Ash, I think the following post by Krushnaji may have some relevance to your mail /message/2809 Regards Anup " Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca " <kas wrote: Dear Sanjiva, Only 5th house might not be an issue. Even 8th house is important for both male for the quality of semen and 8th for female that is ovaries. So here, in my understanding and this we will have to test it as more charts come is say Sa is in 5th house and assume 8th house is healthy no 0’s in 9th house, the Karak and Karak sthan are not afflicted by Ma and Ra, marriage in high power planet etc etc, so assuming all things are good, then delay might be over when Sa will aspect lagna. I think in one mail I had wrttien this, if memory serves me right, Satish had asked this question. I had asked this to Krushnaji. I am going to India, and will spend time with Krushnaji so I shall try to clarify these things as well and try to grasp the logic. Sometimes what happens is that I try to jump ahead and then some of the logic gets missed out, and that is not fair to Krushanji, that I have come to learn the hard way. Many a times, I have tried to ask Krushanji, and poor Krushnaji tries to answer thinking I have understood many other factors. Now, I try to curb my enthusiasm and let Krushnaji explain things slowly and then I take that and practice it on many charts. So for child birth, if memory serves me correctly, if there is delay then that delay might get over when Sa aspects lagna. Now why, lagna that logic I am not 100% clear. I shall try to find out and will note this email down in my “to ask Krushanji” list. J Sometimes, in some charts you also find that couples get child after long time, sometimes after 12 years too. That might be 1 round of Ju as well. If such charts come let us solve. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Sanjiva Sharma Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:46 AM Delay By Saturn Dear Ash, Thanks for the clarification on " delay by Saturn to be 27.5 years " . This particular example is for marriage( 7th house as house B). Pl clarify how to calculate delay by Saturn on other houses e.g. 1. For child birth ( 5th house as B), if Sat is in 3rd House, it will aspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for child birth. How much delay should be taken into account to have a child birth. 2. For the Job ( 5th house as B),if Sat is in 4th House, it will aspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for JOB. How much delay should be taken into account to get the JOB. 3. Similarly, for the other houses/. Thanks and Regards Sanjiva Sharma Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Ash, And here is another post by Krushnaji,where child birth in low points are explained well. This question was raised by Ramesh also. /message/1993 Regards anup Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Anup, Thanks. Yes this is a good mail. Thanks for digging it up from the archives. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. MTuesday January 8, 2008 1:43 PM Subject: RE: Delay By Saturn Dear Ash, I think the following post by Krushnaji may have some relevance to your mail /message/2809 Regards Anup "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kas wrote: Dear Sanjiva, Only 5th house might not be an issue. Even 8th house is important for both male for the quality of semen and 8th for female that is ovaries. So here, in my understanding and this we will have to test it as more charts come is say Sa is in 5th house and assume 8th house is healthy no 0’s in 9th house, the Karak and Karak sthan are not afflicted by Ma and Ra, marriage in high power planet etc etc, so assuming all things are good, then delay might be over when Sa will aspect lagna. I think in one mail I had wrttien this, if memory serves me right, Satish had asked this question. I had asked this to Krushnaji. I am going to India, and will spend time with Krushnaji so I shall try to clarify these things as well and try to grasp the logic. Sometimes what happens is that I try to jump ahead and then some of the logic gets missed out, and that is not fair to Krushanji, that I have come to learn the hard way. Many a times, I have tried to ask Krushanji, and poor Krushnaji tries to answer thinking I have understood many other factors. Now, I try to curb my enthusiasm and let Krushnaji explain things slowly and then I take that and practice it on many charts. So for child birth, if memory serves me correctly, if there is delay then that delay might get over when Sa aspects lagna. Now why, lagna that logic I am not 100% clear. I shall try to find out and will note this email down in my “to ask Krushanji” list. J Sometimes, in some charts you also find that couples get child after long time, sometimes after 12 years too. That might be 1 round of Ju as well. If such charts come let us solve. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Sanjiva SharmaTuesday January 8, 2008 5:46 AM Subject: Delay By Saturn Dear Ash,Thanks for the clarification on " delay by Saturn to be 27.5 years".This particular example is for marriage( 7th house as house B).Pl clarify how to calculate delay by Saturn on other houses e.g.1. For child birth ( 5th house as B), if Sat is in 3rd House, it willaspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for child birth. How much delayshould be taken into account to have a child birth.2. For the Job ( 5th house as B),if Sat is in 4th House, it will aspectall houses i.e. A, B, C houses for JOB. How much delay should be takeninto account to get the JOB.3. Similarly, for the other houses/.Thanks and RegardsSanjiva Sharma Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Ash, Thanks for such a nice and detailed explaination. As per your statement in 2nd para of your email, " .....the delay might be over when Sat aspect lagna " In this case of Child birth ( 5th house as B), the full delay of Sat ( in 3rd house, thereby aspecteing all A,B,C house for child birth) will be over when 1. Sat will be in 4th House( 10th aspect on Lagna .i.e 2.5 yrs or 2.5 + 30.00 = 32.5 yrs or so ) or 2. Sat will be in 7th House( 7th aspect on Lagna .i.e 10 yrs(4 signs traversing) or 10 + 30.00 = 40 yrs or so ) or 3. Sat will be in 11th House( 3rd aspect on lagna .i.e 20.00yrs( 8 sign traversing) or 20.00+ 30.00 = 50 yrs or so ) or From the above, it is obvious that Child Birth could be at age of 32.5 yrs ( as in 1 above) or 40 yrs ( as in 2 above), considering the legal age for marriage age to be 21 yrs. BUT , this is totally different concept than in case of Marriage, where delay is over after 27.5 yrs ( max) i.e. tarversing 11 signs. How do we account for the Job ( 6th house), when Sat ( in 4th house) is aspecting all the A,B,C houses i.e. full delay, BUT HOW MUCH TIME OF DELAY?? Please, clarify. Thanks and regards. Sanjiva Sharma , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Sanjiva, > > > > Only 5th house might not be an issue. Even 8th house is important for both > male for the quality of semen and 8th for female that is ovaries. > > > > So here, in my understanding and this we will have to test it as more charts > come is say Sa is in 5th house and assume 8th house is healthy no 0's in 9th > house, the Karak and Karak sthan are not afflicted by Ma and Ra, marriage in > high power planet etc etc, so assuming all things are good, then delay might > be over when Sa will aspect lagna. > > > > I think in one mail I had wrttien this, if memory serves me right, Satish > had asked this question. I had asked this to Krushnaji. > > > > I am going to India, and will spend time with Krushnaji so I shall try to > clarify these things as well and try to grasp the logic. > > > > Sometimes what happens is that I try to jump ahead and then some of the > logic gets missed out, and that is not fair to Krushanji, that I have come > to learn the hard way. Many a times, I have tried to ask Krushanji, and > poor Krushnaji tries to answer thinking I have understood many other > factors. > > > > Now, I try to curb my enthusiasm and let Krushnaji explain things slowly and > then I take that and practice it on many charts. > > > > So for child birth, if memory serves me correctly, if there is delay then > that delay might get over when Sa aspects lagna. Now why, lagna that logic > I am not 100% clear. I shall try to find out and will note this email down > in my " to ask Krushanji " list. :-) > > > > Sometimes, in some charts you also find that couples get child after long > time, sometimes after 12 years too. That might be 1 round of Ju as well. > If such charts come let us solve. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > Sharma > Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:46 AM > > Delay By Saturn > > > > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for the clarification on " delay by Saturn to be 27.5 years " . > This particular example is for marriage( 7th house as house B). > > Pl clarify how to calculate delay by Saturn on other houses e.g. > > 1. For child birth ( 5th house as B), if Sat is in 3rd House, it will > aspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for child birth. How much delay > should be taken into account to have a child birth. > > 2. For the Job ( 5th house as B),if Sat is in 4th House, it will aspect > all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for JOB. How much delay should be taken > into account to get the JOB. > > 3. Similarly, for the other houses/. > > Thanks and Regards > > Sanjiva Sharma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Ash, if you or may be anup can point to message # or breifly point out when saturn or guru delay gets over. e.g entering sign before its natal position. Guru when it goes over house B or aspects loB etc. Thanks Satish ______________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Sanjiva, Even Jupiter can cause delay if it aspects House A and B. Sometimes that delay might be even 11 years. In some couples you might find that they get child in 12th year. In India, you can take the starting point as after marriage. In other countries where there is no need for a girl or a guy to get married to have kids, then that is not applicable. I shall confirm exactly on the delay calculation with Krushnaji when I meet him. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Sanjiva Sharma Wednesday January 9, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Delay By Saturn Dear Ash, Thanks for such a nice and detailed explaination. As per your statement in 2nd para of your email, " .....the delay might be over when Sat aspect lagna " In this case of Child birth ( 5th house as B), the full delay of Sat ( in 3rd house, thereby aspecteing all A,B,C house for child birth) will be over when 1. Sat will be in 4th House( 10th aspect on Lagna .i.e 2.5 yrs or 2.5 + 30.00 = 32.5 yrs or so ) or 2. Sat will be in 7th House( 7th aspect on Lagna .i.e 10 yrs(4 signs traversing) or 10 + 30.00 = 40 yrs or so ) or 3. Sat will be in 11th House( 3rd aspect on lagna .i.e 20.00yrs( 8 sign traversing) or 20.00+ 30.00 = 50 yrs or so ) or From the above, it is obvious that Child Birth could be at age of 32.5 yrs ( as in 1 above) or 40 yrs ( as in 2 above), considering the legal age for marriage age to be 21 yrs. BUT , this is totally different concept than in case of Marriage, where delay is over after 27.5 yrs ( max) i.e. tarversing 11 signs. How do we account for the Job ( 6th house), when Sat ( in 4th house) is aspecting all the A,B,C houses i.e. full delay, BUT HOW MUCH TIME OF DELAY?? Please, clarify. Thanks and regards. Sanjiva Sharma , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Sanjiva, > > > > Only 5th house might not be an issue. Even 8th house is important for both > male for the quality of semen and 8th for female that is ovaries. > > > > So here, in my understanding and this we will have to test it as more charts > come is say Sa is in 5th house and assume 8th house is healthy no 0's in 9th > house, the Karak and Karak sthan are not afflicted by Ma and Ra, marriage in > high power planet etc etc, so assuming all things are good, then delay might > be over when Sa will aspect lagna. > > > > I think in one mail I had wrttien this, if memory serves me right, Satish > had asked this question. I had asked this to Krushnaji. > > > > I am going to India, and will spend time with Krushnaji so I shall try to > clarify these things as well and try to grasp the logic. > > > > Sometimes what happens is that I try to jump ahead and then some of the > logic gets missed out, and that is not fair to Krushanji, that I have come > to learn the hard way. Many a times, I have tried to ask Krushanji, and > poor Krushnaji tries to answer thinking I have understood many other > factors. > > > > Now, I try to curb my enthusiasm and let Krushnaji explain things slowly and > then I take that and practice it on many charts. > > > > So for child birth, if memory serves me correctly, if there is delay then > that delay might get over when Sa aspects lagna. Now why, lagna that logic > I am not 100% clear. I shall try to find out and will note this email down > in my " to ask Krushanji " list. :-) > > > > Sometimes, in some charts you also find that couples get child after long > time, sometimes after 12 years too. That might be 1 round of Ju as well. > If such charts come let us solve. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > Sharma > Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:46 AM > > Delay By Saturn > > > > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for the clarification on " delay by Saturn to be 27.5 years " . > This particular example is for marriage( 7th house as house B). > > Pl clarify how to calculate delay by Saturn on other houses e.g. > > 1. For child birth ( 5th house as B), if Sat is in 3rd House, it will > aspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for child birth. How much delay > should be taken into account to have a child birth. > > 2. For the Job ( 5th house as B),if Sat is in 4th House, it will aspect > all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for JOB. How much delay should be taken > into account to get the JOB. > > 3. Similarly, for the other houses/. > > Thanks and Regards > > Sanjiva Sharma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Sanjiva, For Job, there is no particular delay. Here u might want to see, that after say finishing education, the powerful antra might give a job. Sa and Ju’s transit also is important here when judging job. The MD is also important to get the idea of karaktwa. But for 6th house there is no direct delay. Now for 10th house say if Sa is in 8th house then it might delay authority and in only in case say for example in place where one gets promotion every year or in say government agencies where there is timed promotion then for some reason it might get delayed. For marriage the starting point for calculating delay is birth date. For childbirth in India, you can take the starting point to calculate delay as marriage date. For job, you can take it from graduation date, so like that. You also have to study all 12 house keenly. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Sanjiva Sharma Wednesday January 9, 2008 8:59 AM Re: Delay By Saturn Dear Ash, Thanks for such a nice and detailed explaination. As per your statement in 2nd para of your email, " .....the delay might be over when Sat aspect lagna " In this case of Child birth ( 5th house as B), the full delay of Sat ( in 3rd house, thereby aspecteing all A,B,C house for child birth) will be over when 1. Sat will be in 4th House( 10th aspect on Lagna .i.e 2.5 yrs or 2.5 + 30.00 = 32.5 yrs or so ) or 2. Sat will be in 7th House( 7th aspect on Lagna .i.e 10 yrs(4 signs traversing) or 10 + 30.00 = 40 yrs or so ) or 3. Sat will be in 11th House( 3rd aspect on lagna .i.e 20.00yrs( 8 sign traversing) or 20.00+ 30.00 = 50 yrs or so ) or From the above, it is obvious that Child Birth could be at age of 32.5 yrs ( as in 1 above) or 40 yrs ( as in 2 above), considering the legal age for marriage age to be 21 yrs. BUT , this is totally different concept than in case of Marriage, where delay is over after 27.5 yrs ( max) i.e. tarversing 11 signs. How do we account for the Job ( 6th house), when Sat ( in 4th house) is aspecting all the A,B,C houses i.e. full delay, BUT HOW MUCH TIME OF DELAY?? Please, clarify. Thanks and regards. Sanjiva Sharma , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Sanjiva, > > > > Only 5th house might not be an issue. Even 8th house is important for both > male for the quality of semen and 8th for female that is ovaries. > > > > So here, in my understanding and this we will have to test it as more charts > come is say Sa is in 5th house and assume 8th house is healthy no 0's in 9th > house, the Karak and Karak sthan are not afflicted by Ma and Ra, marriage in > high power planet etc etc, so assuming all things are good, then delay might > be over when Sa will aspect lagna. > > > > I think in one mail I had wrttien this, if memory serves me right, Satish > had asked this question. I had asked this to Krushnaji. > > > > I am going to India, and will spend time with Krushnaji so I shall try to > clarify these things as well and try to grasp the logic. > > > > Sometimes what happens is that I try to jump ahead and then some of the > logic gets missed out, and that is not fair to Krushanji, that I have come > to learn the hard way. Many a times, I have tried to ask Krushanji, and > poor Krushnaji tries to answer thinking I have understood many other > factors. > > > > Now, I try to curb my enthusiasm and let Krushnaji explain things slowly and > then I take that and practice it on many charts. > > > > So for child birth, if memory serves me correctly, if there is delay then > that delay might get over when Sa aspects lagna. Now why, lagna that logic > I am not 100% clear. I shall try to find out and will note this email down > in my " to ask Krushanji " list. :-) > > > > Sometimes, in some charts you also find that couples get child after long > time, sometimes after 12 years too. That might be 1 round of Ju as well. > If such charts come let us solve. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > Sharma > Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:46 AM > > Delay By Saturn > > > > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for the clarification on " delay by Saturn to be 27.5 years " . > This particular example is for marriage( 7th house as house B). > > Pl clarify how to calculate delay by Saturn on other houses e.g. > > 1. For child birth ( 5th house as B), if Sat is in 3rd House, it will > aspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for child birth. How much delay > should be taken into account to have a child birth. > > 2. For the Job ( 5th house as B),if Sat is in 4th House, it will aspect > all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for JOB. How much delay should be taken > into account to get the JOB. > > 3. Similarly, for the other houses/. > > Thanks and Regards > > Sanjiva Sharma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Dear Sir, so if saturn is in 3rd house in rasi or navamsa, there would be delay of saturn and child birth would be delayed for appx. 27 years after marriage ? thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Sanjiva, > > > > For Job, there is no particular delay. Here u might want to see, that after > say finishing education, the powerful antra might give a job. Sa and Ju's > transit also is important here when judging job. The MD is also important > to get the idea of karaktwa. But for 6th house there is no direct delay. > > > > Now for 10th house say if Sa is in 8th house then it might delay authority > and in only in case say for example in place where one gets promotion every > year or in say government agencies where there is timed promotion then for > some reason it might get delayed. > > > > For marriage the starting point for calculating delay is birth date. For > childbirth in India, you can take the starting point to calculate delay as > marriage date. For job, you can take it from graduation date, so like that. > > > > You also have to study all 12 house keenly. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > Sharma > Wednesday January 9, 2008 8:59 AM > > Re: Delay By Saturn > > > > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for such a nice and detailed explaination. > > As per your statement in 2nd para of your email, " .....the delay might > be over when Sat aspect lagna " > > In this case of Child birth ( 5th house as B), the full delay of Sat ( > in 3rd house, thereby aspecteing all A,B,C house for child birth) will > be over when > > 1. Sat will be in 4th House( 10th aspect on Lagna .i.e 2.5 yrs or 2.5 + > 30.00 = 32.5 yrs or so ) or > > 2. Sat will be in 7th House( 7th aspect on Lagna .i.e 10 yrs(4 signs > traversing) or 10 + 30.00 = 40 yrs or so ) or > > 3. Sat will be in 11th House( 3rd aspect on lagna .i.e 20.00yrs( 8 sign > traversing) or 20.00+ 30.00 = 50 yrs or so ) or > > From the above, it is obvious that Child Birth could be at age of 32.5 > yrs ( as in 1 above) or 40 yrs ( as in 2 above), considering the legal > age for marriage age to be 21 yrs. > > BUT , this is totally different concept than in case of Marriage, where > delay is over after 27.5 yrs ( max) i.e. tarversing 11 signs. > > How do we account for the Job ( 6th house), when Sat ( in 4th house) is > aspecting all the A,B,C houses i.e. full delay, BUT HOW MUCH TIME OF > DELAY?? > > Please, clarify. > > Thanks and regards. > > Sanjiva Sharma > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sanjiva, > > > > > > > > Only 5th house might not be an issue. Even 8th house is important for > both > > male for the quality of semen and 8th for female that is ovaries. > > > > > > > > So here, in my understanding and this we will have to test it as more > charts > > come is say Sa is in 5th house and assume 8th house is healthy no 0's > in 9th > > house, the Karak and Karak sthan are not afflicted by Ma and Ra, > marriage in > > high power planet etc etc, so assuming all things are good, then delay > might > > be over when Sa will aspect lagna. > > > > > > > > I think in one mail I had wrttien this, if memory serves me right, > Satish > > had asked this question. I had asked this to Krushnaji. > > > > > > > > I am going to India, and will spend time with Krushnaji so I shall try > to > > clarify these things as well and try to grasp the logic. > > > > > > > > Sometimes what happens is that I try to jump ahead and then some of > the > > logic gets missed out, and that is not fair to Krushanji, that I have > come > > to learn the hard way. Many a times, I have tried to ask Krushanji, > and > > poor Krushnaji tries to answer thinking I have understood many other > > factors. > > > > > > > > Now, I try to curb my enthusiasm and let Krushnaji explain things > slowly and > > then I take that and practice it on many charts. > > > > > > > > So for child birth, if memory serves me correctly, if there is delay > then > > that delay might get over when Sa aspects lagna. Now why, lagna that > logic > > I am not 100% clear. I shall try to find out and will note this email > down > > in my " to ask Krushanji " list. :-) > > > > > > > > Sometimes, in some charts you also find that couples get child after > long > > time, sometimes after 12 years too. That might be 1 round of Ju as > well. > > If such charts come let us solve. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > > Sharma > > Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:46 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Delay By Saturn > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Thanks for the clarification on " delay by Saturn to be 27.5 years " . > > This particular example is for marriage( 7th house as house B). > > > > Pl clarify how to calculate delay by Saturn on other houses e.g. > > > > 1. For child birth ( 5th house as B), if Sat is in 3rd House, it will > > aspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for child birth. How much delay > > should be taken into account to have a child birth. > > > > 2. For the Job ( 5th house as B),if Sat is in 4th House, it will > aspect > > all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for JOB. How much delay should be taken > > into account to get the JOB. > > > > 3. Similarly, for the other houses/. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Sanjiva Sharma > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Dear Harjeet and all members, Today Ash asked me to explain about finding the timing event for child birth. The child birth that way is not depending upon only one house. There are so many factors involved. If 8th house of male or female is spoiled, Ninth house have zero in SAV, Karak of 8th is spoiled, 12th house spoiled NK Ju and FK spoiled then there is delay, or no child. As you asked Sa in 3rd do not delays child birth for 27 yrs after marriage . Any how I will give a detail lesson on this. Please wait. Thanks krushna harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: Dear Sir,so if saturn is in 3rd house in rasi or navamsa, there would be delayof saturn and child birth would be delayed for appx. 27 years aftermarriage ?thanks/regardsharjeet , "Ash's Corner"<kas wrote:>> Dear Sanjiva,> > > > For Job, there is no particular delay. Here u might want to see,that after> say finishing education, the powerful antra might give a job. Saand Ju's> transit also is important here when judging job. The MD is alsoimportant> to get the idea of karaktwa. But for 6th house there is no directdelay. > > > > Now for 10th house say if Sa is in 8th house then it might delayauthority> and in only in case say for example in place where one getspromotion every> year or in say government agencies where there is timed promotionthen for> some reason it might get delayed. > > > > For marriage the starting point for calculating delay is birth date.For> childbirth in India, you can take the starting point to calculatedelay as> marriage date. For job, you can take it from graduation date, solike that.> > > > You also have to study all 12 house keenly.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva> Sharma> Wednesday January 9, 2008 8:59 AM> > Re: Delay By Saturn> > > > > Dear Ash,> > Thanks for such a nice and detailed explaination.> > As per your statement in 2nd para of your email, ".....the delay might> be over when Sat aspect lagna"> > In this case of Child birth ( 5th house as B), the full delay of Sat (> in 3rd house, thereby aspecteing all A,B,C house for child birth) will> be over when> > 1. Sat will be in 4th House( 10th aspect on Lagna .i.e 2.5 yrs or 2.5 +> 30.00 = 32.5 yrs or so ) or> > 2. Sat will be in 7th House( 7th aspect on Lagna .i.e 10 yrs(4 signs> traversing) or 10 + 30.00 = 40 yrs or so ) or> > 3. Sat will be in 11th House( 3rd aspect on lagna .i.e 20.00yrs( 8 sign> traversing) or 20.00+ 30.00 = 50 yrs or so ) or> > From the above, it is obvious that Child Birth could be at age of 32.5> yrs ( as in 1 above) or 40 yrs ( as in 2 above), considering the legal> age for marriage age to be 21 yrs.> > BUT , this is totally different concept than in case of Marriage, where> delay is over after 27.5 yrs ( max) i.e. tarversing 11 signs.> > How do we account for the Job ( 6th house), when Sat ( in 4th house) is> aspecting all the A,B,C houses i.e. full delay, BUT HOW MUCH TIME OF> DELAY??> > Please, clarify.> > Thanks and regards.> > Sanjiva Sharma> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> "Ash's Corner@"> <kas@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sanjiva,> >> >> >> > Only 5th house might not be an issue. Even 8th house is important for> both> > male for the quality of semen and 8th for female that is ovaries.> >> >> >> > So here, in my understanding and this we will have to test it as more> charts> > come is say Sa is in 5th house and assume 8th house is healthy no 0's> in 9th> > house, the Karak and Karak sthan are not afflicted by Ma and Ra,> marriage in> > high power planet etc etc, so assuming all things are good, then delay> might> > be over when Sa will aspect lagna.> >> >> >> > I think in one mail I had wrttien this, if memory serves me right,> Satish> > had asked this question. I had asked this to Krushnaji.> >> >> >> > I am going to India, and will spend time with Krushnaji so I shall try> to> > clarify these things as well and try to grasp the logic.> >> >> >> > Sometimes what happens is that I try to jump ahead and then some of> the> > logic gets missed out, and that is not fair to Krushanji, that I have> come> > to learn the hard way. Many a times, I have tried to ask Krushanji,> and> > poor Krushnaji tries to answer thinking I have understood many other> > factors.> >> >> >> > Now, I try to curb my enthusiasm and let Krushnaji explain things> slowly and> > then I take that and practice it on many charts.> >> >> >> > So for child birth, if memory serves me correctly, if there is delay> then> > that delay might get over when Sa aspects lagna. Now why, lagna that> logic> > I am not 100% clear. I shall try to find out and will note this email> down> > in my "to ask Krushanji" list. :-)> >> >> >> > Sometimes, in some charts you also find that couples get child after> long> > time, sometimes after 12 years too. That might be 1 round of Ju as> well.> > If such charts come let us solve.> >> >> >> >> >> > Cheers !!!> >> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >> > _____> >> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents > > [astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ]> On Behalf Of Sanjiva> > Sharma> > Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:46 AM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents > > Subject: Delay By Saturn> >> >> >> >> > Dear Ash,> >> > Thanks for the clarification on " delay by Saturn to be 27.5 years".> > This particular example is for marriage( 7th house as house B).> >> > Pl clarify how to calculate delay by Saturn on other houses e.g.> >> > 1. For child birth ( 5th house as B), if Sat is in 3rd House, it will> > aspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for child birth. How much delay> > should be taken into account to have a child birth.> >> > 2. For the Job ( 5th house as B),if Sat is in 4th House, it will> aspect> > all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for JOB. How much delay should be taken> > into account to get the JOB.> >> > 3. Similarly, for the other houses/.> >> > Thanks and Regards> >> > Sanjiva Sharma> >> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Thanks very much Respected Krushnaji, we all would be very eagerly waiting for your lesson Sir. i know, i cant grasp what has been taught already by you yet... but still very anxious to read and learn more lessons. Pranam. thanks/regards harjeet , krushna jugalkalani <krushanain wrote: > > Dear Harjeet and all members, > Today Ash asked me to explain about finding the timing event for child birth. The child birth that way is not depending upon only one house. There are so many factors involved. If 8th house of male or female is spoiled, Ninth house have zero in SAV, Karak of 8th is spoiled, 12th house spoiled NK Ju and FK spoiled then there is delay, or no child. As you asked Sa in 3rd do not delays child birth for 27 yrs after marriage . > Any how I will give a detail lesson on this. Please wait. > Thanks > krushna > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Dear Sir, > so if saturn is in 3rd house in rasi or navamsa, there would be delay > of saturn and child birth would be delayed for appx. 27 years after > marriage ? > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sanjiva, > > > > > > > > For Job, there is no particular delay. Here u might want to see, > that after > > say finishing education, the powerful antra might give a job. Sa > and Ju's > > transit also is important here when judging job. The MD is also > important > > to get the idea of karaktwa. But for 6th house there is no direct > delay. > > > > > > > > Now for 10th house say if Sa is in 8th house then it might delay > authority > > and in only in case say for example in place where one gets > promotion every > > year or in say government agencies where there is timed promotion > then for > > some reason it might get delayed. > > > > > > > > For marriage the starting point for calculating delay is birth date. > For > > childbirth in India, you can take the starting point to calculate > delay as > > marriage date. For job, you can take it from graduation date, so > like that. > > > > > > > > You also have to study all 12 house keenly. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > > Sharma > > Wednesday January 9, 2008 8:59 AM > > > > Re: Delay By Saturn > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Thanks for such a nice and detailed explaination. > > > > As per your statement in 2nd para of your email, " .....the delay might > > be over when Sat aspect lagna " > > > > In this case of Child birth ( 5th house as B), the full delay of Sat ( > > in 3rd house, thereby aspecteing all A,B,C house for child birth) will > > be over when > > > > 1. Sat will be in 4th House( 10th aspect on Lagna .i.e 2.5 yrs or 2.5 + > > 30.00 = 32.5 yrs or so ) or > > > > 2. Sat will be in 7th House( 7th aspect on Lagna .i.e 10 yrs(4 signs > > traversing) or 10 + 30.00 = 40 yrs or so ) or > > > > 3. Sat will be in 11th House( 3rd aspect on lagna .i.e 20.00yrs( 8 sign > > traversing) or 20.00+ 30.00 = 50 yrs or so ) or > > > > From the above, it is obvious that Child Birth could be at age of 32.5 > > yrs ( as in 1 above) or 40 yrs ( as in 2 above), considering the legal > > age for marriage age to be 21 yrs. > > > > BUT , this is totally different concept than in case of Marriage, where > > delay is over after 27.5 yrs ( max) i.e. tarversing 11 signs. > > > > How do we account for the Job ( 6th house), when Sat ( in 4th house) is > > aspecting all the A,B,C houses i.e. full delay, BUT HOW MUCH TIME OF > > DELAY?? > > > > Please, clarify. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Sanjiva Sharma > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents , > > " Ash's Corner@ " > > <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sanjiva, > > > > > > > > > > > > Only 5th house might not be an issue. Even 8th house is important for > > both > > > male for the quality of semen and 8th for female that is ovaries. > > > > > > > > > > > > So here, in my understanding and this we will have to test it as more > > charts > > > come is say Sa is in 5th house and assume 8th house is healthy no 0's > > in 9th > > > house, the Karak and Karak sthan are not afflicted by Ma and Ra, > > marriage in > > > high power planet etc etc, so assuming all things are good, then delay > > might > > > be over when Sa will aspect lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think in one mail I had wrttien this, if memory serves me right, > > Satish > > > had asked this question. I had asked this to Krushnaji. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am going to India, and will spend time with Krushnaji so I shall try > > to > > > clarify these things as well and try to grasp the logic. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes what happens is that I try to jump ahead and then some of > > the > > > logic gets missed out, and that is not fair to Krushanji, that I have > > come > > > to learn the hard way. Many a times, I have tried to ask Krushanji, > > and > > > poor Krushnaji tries to answer thinking I have understood many other > > > factors. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I try to curb my enthusiasm and let Krushnaji explain things > > slowly and > > > then I take that and practice it on many charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > So for child birth, if memory serves me correctly, if there is delay > > then > > > that delay might get over when Sa aspects lagna. Now why, lagna that > > logic > > > I am not 100% clear. I shall try to find out and will note this email > > down > > > in my " to ask Krushanji " list. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, in some charts you also find that couples get child after > > long > > > time, sometimes after 12 years too. That might be 1 round of Ju as > > well. > > > If such charts come let us solve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents ] > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva > > > Sharma > > > Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:46 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents > > > Delay By Saturn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Thanks for the clarification on " delay by Saturn to be 27.5 years " . > > > This particular example is for marriage( 7th house as house B). > > > > > > Pl clarify how to calculate delay by Saturn on other houses e.g. > > > > > > 1. For child birth ( 5th house as B), if Sat is in 3rd House, it will > > > aspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for child birth. How much delay > > > should be taken into account to have a child birth. > > > > > > 2. For the Job ( 5th house as B),if Sat is in 4th House, it will > > aspect > > > all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for JOB. How much delay should be taken > > > into account to get the JOB. > > > > > > 3. Similarly, for the other houses/. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Respected Sir, In my chat saturn which is lord of 9th & 10th is placed in the 12th house of aries in deblited form,which makes me delay in my career.Any analysis pl ?krushna jugalkalani <krushanain wrote: Dear Harjeet and all members, Today Ash asked me to explain about finding the timing event for child birth. The child birth that way is not depending upon only one house. There are so many factors involved. If 8th house of male or female is spoiled, Ninth house have zero in SAV, Karak of 8th is spoiled, 12th house spoiled NK Ju and FK spoiled then there is delay, or no child. As you asked Sa in 3rd do not delays child birth for 27 yrs after marriage . Any how I will give a detail lesson on this. Please wait. Thanks krushna harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: Dear Sir,so if saturn is in 3rd house in rasi or navamsa, there would be delayof saturn and child birth would be delayed for appx. 27 years aftermarriage ?thanks/regardsharjeet , "Ash's Corner"<kas wrote:>> Dear Sanjiva,> > > > For Job, there is no particular delay. Here u might want to see,that after> say finishing education, the powerful antra might give a job. Saand Ju's> transit also is important here when judging job. The MD is alsoimportant> to get the idea of karaktwa. But for 6th house there is no directdelay. > > > > Now for 10th house say if Sa is in 8th house then it might delayauthority> and in only in case say for example in place where one getspromotion every> year or in say government agencies where there is timed promotionthen for> some reason it might get delayed. > > > > For marriage the starting point for calculating delay is birth date.For> childbirth in India, you can take the starting point to calculatedelay as> marriage date. For job, you can take it from graduation date, solike that.> > > > You also have to study all 12 house keenly.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sanjiva> Sharma> Wednesday January 9, 2008 8:59 AM> > Re: Delay By Saturn> > > > > Dear Ash,> > Thanks for such a nice and detailed explaination.> > As per your statement in 2nd para of your email, ".....the delay might> be over when Sat aspect lagna"> > In this case of Child birth ( 5th house as B), the full delay of Sat (> in 3rd house, thereby aspecteing all A,B,C house for child birth) will> be over when> > 1. Sat will be in 4th House( 10th aspect on Lagna .i.e 2.5 yrs or 2.5 +> 30.00 = 32.5 yrs or so ) or> > 2. Sat will be in 7th House( 7th aspect on Lagna .i.e 10 yrs(4 signs> traversing) or 10 + 30.00 = 40 yrs or so ) or> > 3. Sat will be in 11th House( 3rd aspect on lagna .i.e 20.00yrs( 8 sign> traversing) or 20.00+ 30.00 = 50 yrs or so ) or> > From the above, it is obvious that Child Birth could be at age of 32.5> yrs ( as in 1 above) or 40 yrs ( as in 2 above), considering the legal> age for marriage age to be 21 yrs.> > BUT , this is totally different concept than in case of Marriage, where> delay is over after 27.5 yrs ( max) i.e. tarversing 11 signs.> > How do we account for the Job ( 6th house), when Sat ( in 4th house) is> aspecting all the A,B,C houses i.e. full delay, BUT HOW MUCH TIME OF> DELAY??> > Please, clarify.> > Thanks and regards.> > Sanjiva Sharma> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> "Ash's Corner@"> <kas@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sanjiva,> >> >> >> > Only 5th house might not be an issue. Even 8th house is important for> both> > male for the quality of semen and 8th for female that is ovaries.> >> >> >> > So here, in my understanding and this we will have to test it as more> charts> > come is say Sa is in 5th house and assume 8th house is healthy no 0's> in 9th> > house, the Karak and Karak sthan are not afflicted by Ma and Ra,> marriage in> > high power planet etc etc, so assuming all things are good, then delay> might> > be over when Sa will aspect lagna.> >> >> >> > I think in one mail I had wrttien this, if memory serves me right,> Satish> > had asked this question. I had asked this to Krushnaji.> >> >> >> > I am going to India, and will spend time with Krushnaji so I shall try> to> > clarify these things as well and try to grasp the logic.> >> >> >> > Sometimes what happens is that I try to jump ahead and then some of> the> > logic gets missed out, and that is not fair to Krushanji, that I have> come> > to learn the hard way. Many a times, I have tried to ask Krushanji,> and> > poor Krushnaji tries to answer thinking I have understood many other> > factors.> >> >> >> > Now, I try to curb my enthusiasm and let Krushnaji explain things> slowly and> > then I take that and practice it on many charts.> >> >> >> > So for child birth, if memory serves me correctly, if there is delay> then> > that delay might get over when Sa aspects lagna. Now why, lagna that> logic> > I am not 100% clear. I shall try to find out and will note this email> down> > in my "to ask Krushanji" list. :-)> >> >> >> > Sometimes, in some charts you also find that couples get child after> long> > time, sometimes after 12 years too. That might be 1 round of Ju as> well.> > If such charts come let us solve.> >> >> >> >> >> > Cheers !!!> >> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >> > _____> >> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents > > [astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ]> On Behalf Of Sanjiva> > Sharma> > Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:46 AM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents > > Delay By Saturn> >> >> >> >> > Dear Ash,> >> > Thanks for the clarification on " delay by Saturn to be 27.5 years".> > This particular example is for marriage( 7th house as house B).> >> > Pl clarify how to calculate delay by Saturn on other houses e.g.> >> > 1. For child birth ( 5th house as B), if Sat is in 3rd House, it will> > aspect all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for child birth. How much delay> > should be taken into account to have a child birth.> >> > 2. For the Job ( 5th house as B),if Sat is in 4th House, it will> aspect> > all houses i.e. A, B, C houses for JOB. How much delay should be taken> > into account to get the JOB.> >> > 3. Similarly, for the other houses/.> >> > Thanks and Regards> >> > Sanjiva Sharma> >> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Share files, take polls, and discuss your passions - all under one roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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