Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Dear Hossien, I think there was a mail out in that reference that I believe Manu had clarified that Sa in 8th house is not the cause for delay. What Krushnaji had told us and what we had mistranslated. Let me clarify. There is NO Delay due to Saturn. Saturn in 8th house will have control over a planet if its in 4th house from it and if that Planet has more than 4 bindus i.e. 4:10. Say if Mercury was in 4th place from Saturn then Sa would control Mercury and here Mercury would be LoC and Sa aspects LoA and LoB so in that case only there would be delay. In this case, Saturn wont cause delay as it does not touch Mercury or House C. So here there is 0 due to Saturn in the 9th house. So there is about 10-15% delay due to that. So after 24 years, Mars antra is running and that has highest power, but also check the status of Mars. Here Mars might have given some movement but that might not have lasted. Here Mars is LoD and in 12th from House D and at the same time, Mars is in navamsa of 6th lord. So here Mars is eager but might not give full results. Next antra is that of Guru in Guru MD. Jupiter is in House E with 6 bindus so its very eager to give timing of event so it will give. Now coming to sector, there is no delay, and there is 1 zero so marriage might happen in 2nd sector. Now, there is blessings as u have said, so please read my email on Blessings that I had recently posted on this list. Here there is 0 in the 9th house and 9th lord is SD to 6th lord as well so here the 9th house is being affected and 9th lord as well. So here blessings might be able to reduce the delay in sector. I am changing the heading of this mail so that in future this can be searched easily. Hope its clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: > > Hi Krushna,Ash and other list members > Mr.Krushna in lesson 33 discuses the chart of a male for marriage (Male, Born 8 March 1967,17h40 in Bombay, India, Zone 5.30, long73e40,lat26n17).Krushna has explained that Sa causes full delay because it controls House C, is the lord of House B and see House A. but the sight of Ju moderate this. There is also one zero point in SAV and again increase 10% delay. But because of 5:9 relation between lords 1 and 9 (father blessing) all delays will nullify. But Krushna explained that the event will take place in 2nd sector (Ju antar period) because of one zero point in SAV. He said that all delays nullified because 5:9 relation between 1st and 9th lords but the event will be in 2nd sector of sub period. Please explain this for me. > Another question is that who we use delays? For example Sa causes full delay about 27.5 years. we should consider this delay for age of marriage or for sector? i.e. he wiil marriage after 27.5 years or marriage will be in 3rd sector? > Thanks and best wishes > Hussein Abdi > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Hi Ashthank you very much for your answer,but assume that Sa causes full delay,then it delay will be in sector or in age(i.e netive marriage at age 27.5)?thanksHussein Abdiashsam73 <kas wrote: Dear Hossien, I think there was a mail out in that reference that I believe Manu had clarified that Sa in 8th house is not the cause for delay. What Krushnaji had told us and what we had mistranslated. Let me clarify. There is NO Delay due to Saturn. Saturn in 8th house will have control over a planet if its in 4th house from it and if that Planet has more than 4 bindus i.e. 4:10. Say if Mercury was in 4th place from Saturn then Sa would control Mercury and here Mercury would be LoC and Sa aspects LoA and LoB so in that case only there would be delay. In this case, Saturn wont cause delay as it does not touch Mercury or House C. So here there is 0 due to Saturn in the 9th house. So there is about 10-15% delay due to that. So after 24 years, Mars antra is running and that has highest power, but also check the status of Mars. Here Mars might have given some movement but that might not have lasted. Here Mars is LoD and in 12th from House D and at the same time, Mars is in navamsa of 6th lord. So here Mars is eager but might not give full results. Next antra is that of Guru in Guru MD. Jupiter is in House E with 6 bindus so its very eager to give timing of event so it will give. Now coming to sector, there is no delay, and there is 1 zero so marriage might happen in 2nd sector. Now, there is blessings as u have said, so please read my email on Blessings that I had recently posted on this list. Here there is 0 in the 9th house and 9th lord is SD to 6th lord as well so here the 9th house is being affected and 9th lord as well. So here blessings might be able to reduce the delay in sector. I am changing the heading of this mail so that in future this can be searched easily. Hope its clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: > > Hi Krushna,Ash and other list members > Mr.Krushna in lesson 33 discuses the chart of a male for marriage (Male, Born 8 March 1967,17h40 in Bombay, India, Zone 5.30, long73e40,lat26n17).Krushna has explained that Sa causes full delay because it controls House C, is the lord of House B and see House A. but the sight of Ju moderate this. There is also one zero point in SAV and again increase 10% delay. But because of 5:9 relation between lords 1 and 9 (father blessing) all delays will nullify. But Krushna explained that the event will take place in 2nd sector (Ju antar period) because of one zero point in SAV. He said that all delays nullified because 5:9 relation between 1st and 9th lords but the event will be in 2nd sector of sub period. Please explain this for me. > Another question is that who we use delays? For example Sa causes full delay about 27.5 years. we should consider this delay for age of marriage or for sector? i.e. he wiil marriage after 27.5 years or marriage will be in 3rd sector? > Thanks and best wishes > Hussein Abdi > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Dear Hossien, If there is delay due to Saturn then there will also be delay in the antra, HOWEVER if Sa is LoD or LoE or placed in House D or E with more than 4 bindus then itself becomes eager i.e. Delay causing planet becomes eager, so in that case, if Sa's antra comes just after delay then it will give result in 1st sector. Now, Sa's delay is also not always 27.5 years. It should be (27.5 years - time due degrees of saturn traversed in the sign.) Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: > > Hi Ash > thank you very much for your answer,but assume that Sa causes full delay,then it delay will be in sector or in age(i.e netive marriage at age 27.5)? > thanks > Hussein Abdi > > ashsam73 <kas wrote: Dear Hossien, > > I think there was a mail out in that reference that I believe Manu > had clarified that Sa in 8th house is not the cause for delay. What > Krushnaji had told us and what we had mistranslated. > > Let me clarify. > > There is NO Delay due to Saturn. Saturn in 8th house will have > control over a planet if its in 4th house from it and if that Planet > has more than 4 bindus i.e. 4:10. > > Say if Mercury was in 4th place from Saturn then Sa would control > Mercury and here Mercury would be LoC and Sa aspects LoA and LoB so > in that case only there would be delay. > > In this case, Saturn wont cause delay as it does not touch Mercury or > House C. > > So here there is 0 due to Saturn in the 9th house. > > So there is about 10-15% delay due to that. > > So after 24 years, Mars antra is running and that has highest power, > but also check the status of Mars. > > Here Mars might have given some movement but that might not have > lasted. Here Mars is LoD and in 12th from House D and at the same > time, Mars is in navamsa of 6th lord. So here Mars is eager but > might not give full results. > > Next antra is that of Guru in Guru MD. > > Jupiter is in House E with 6 bindus so its very eager to give timing > of event so it will give. > > Now coming to sector, there is no delay, and there is 1 zero so > marriage might happen in 2nd sector. > > Now, there is blessings as u have said, so please read my email on > Blessings that I had recently posted on this list. > > Here there is 0 in the 9th house and 9th lord is SD to 6th lord as > well so here the 9th house is being affected and 9th lord as well. > > So here blessings might be able to reduce the delay in sector. > > I am changing the heading of this mail so that in future this can be > searched easily. > > Hope its clear. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , hossien abdee > <ahahosien@> wrote: > > > > Hi Krushna,Ash and other list members > > Mr.Krushna in lesson 33 discuses the chart of a male for marriage > (Male, Born 8 March 1967,17h40 in Bombay, India, Zone 5.30, > long73e40,lat26n17).Krushna has explained that Sa causes full delay > because it controls House C, is the lord of House B and see House A. > but the sight of Ju moderate this. There is also one zero point in > SAV and again increase 10% delay. But because of 5:9 relation between > lords 1 and 9 (father blessing) all delays will nullify. But > Krushna explained that the event will take place in 2nd sector (Ju > antar period) because of one zero point in SAV. He said that all > delays nullified because 5:9 relation between 1st and 9th lords but > the event will be in 2nd sector of sub period. Please explain this > for me. > > Another question is that who we use delays? For example Sa causes > full delay about 27.5 years. we should consider this delay for age > of marriage or for sector? i.e. he wiil marriage after 27.5 years or > marriage will be in 3rd sector? > > Thanks and best wishes > > Hussein Abdi > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. > Try it now. > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Thanks for your good answer,but :1-when we should consider the delay of Ju and what is the effect of its delay on sectors and years?2-assume that 2 planets are in 4:10 relation,planet in 4th has 5 and planet in 10th has 6, is it true that in this condition planet in 10th give his points(in woksheet) to the planet in 4th?in the lessons i saw that if planet in 4th has less than 4 point we should add the points of the other planet to this.thanksHussein Abdiashsam73 <kas wrote: Dear Hossien, If there is delay due to Saturn then there will also be delay in the antra, HOWEVER if Sa is LoD or LoE or placed in House D or E with more than 4 bindus then itself becomes eager i.e. Delay causing planet becomes eager, so in that case, if Sa's antra comes just after delay then it will give result in 1st sector. Now, Sa's delay is also not always 27.5 years. It should be (27.5 years - time due degrees of saturn traversed in the sign.) Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: > > Hi Ash > thank you very much for your answer,but assume that Sa causes full delay,then it delay will be in sector or in age(i.e netive marriage at age 27.5)? > thanks > Hussein Abdi > > ashsam73 <kas wrote: Dear Hossien, > > I think there was a mail out in that reference that I believe Manu > had clarified that Sa in 8th house is not the cause for delay. What > Krushnaji had told us and what we had mistranslated. > > Let me clarify. > > There is NO Delay due to Saturn. Saturn in 8th house will have > control over a planet if its in 4th house from it and if that Planet > has more than 4 bindus i.e. 4:10. > > Say if Mercury was in 4th place from Saturn then Sa would control > Mercury and here Mercury would be LoC and Sa aspects LoA and LoB so > in that case only there would be delay. > > In this case, Saturn wont cause delay as it does not touch Mercury or > House C. > > So here there is 0 due to Saturn in the 9th house. > > So there is about 10-15% delay due to that. > > So after 24 years, Mars antra is running and that has highest power, > but also check the status of Mars. > > Here Mars might have given some movement but that might not have > lasted. Here Mars is LoD and in 12th from House D and at the same > time, Mars is in navamsa of 6th lord. So here Mars is eager but > might not give full results. > > Next antra is that of Guru in Guru MD. > > Jupiter is in House E with 6 bindus so its very eager to give timing > of event so it will give. > > Now coming to sector, there is no delay, and there is 1 zero so > marriage might happen in 2nd sector. > > Now, there is blessings as u have said, so please read my email on > Blessings that I had recently posted on this list. > > Here there is 0 in the 9th house and 9th lord is SD to 6th lord as > well so here the 9th house is being affected and 9th lord as well. > > So here blessings might be able to reduce the delay in sector. > > I am changing the heading of this mail so that in future this can be > searched easily. > > Hope its clear. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , hossien abdee > <ahahosien@> wrote: > > > > Hi Krushna,Ash and other list members > > Mr.Krushna in lesson 33 discuses the chart of a male for marriage > (Male, Born 8 March 1967,17h40 in Bombay, India, Zone 5.30, > long73e40,lat26n17).Krushna has explained that Sa causes full delay > because it controls House C, is the lord of House B and see House A. > but the sight of Ju moderate this. There is also one zero point in > SAV and again increase 10% delay. But because of 5:9 relation between > lords 1 and 9 (father blessing) all delays will nullify. But > Krushna explained that the event will take place in 2nd sector (Ju > antar period) because of one zero point in SAV. He said that all > delays nullified because 5:9 relation between 1st and 9th lords but > the event will be in 2nd sector of sub period. Please explain this > for me. > > Another question is that who we use delays? For example Sa causes > full delay about 27.5 years. we should consider this delay for age > of marriage or for sector? i.e. he wiil marriage after 27.5 years or > marriage will be in 3rd sector? > > Thanks and best wishes > > Hussein Abdi > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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