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Dear Ash, Prafulla, Dadhi, Anup, and All members

 

As I mentioned this is the big diachotomy and has been

troubling me for a long time. How to resolve this?

 

1. There is Upachaya principle. So 3 6 10 11 form any

house are house of growth for that house.

 

2. We also know that 3, 6 , 11th lord from lagna is

not a friendly lord to the lagna lord.

 

So how to reconcile this?

 

Are we missing the context here ?

 

What does growth of 1st house mean ? Do we mean only

health and physical well being ? Then how come 6th

house of disease be growth house for 1st?

 

From KAS perspective how to treat 6th house ? Yes it

is bad for 7th as B. How does it behave for other

houses. Do we treat it as a bad for other houses as

well?

 

Thanks

 

Satish

--- " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote:

 

> Dear Prafulla,

>

>

>

> Malefics in 3, 6 10 and 11 are good no doubt but in

> what context. That was

> the first question that Krushnaji had asked when he

> had started the list.

>

>

>

> Yes, even if that is understood and in what context

> that has been said by

> traditionalist then so many things will get clear.

>

>

>

> I had written a long post on that as well, I believe

> it was to Sanjiva or

> Satish.

>

>

>

> Then again, my very simple and basic question is,

> what are upachaya sthan

> and what is the meaning and the use of it in VA?

>

>

>

> All the seers have only said that only 3 6 10 and

> 11th house are the house

> of growth from any house and the rest are not. So

> how can 11th house be

> malefic for 1st house.

>

>

>

> My fundamental question remains unanswered still,

>

>

>

> -- If one says that 11th house is malefic for 1st

> house, then what is the

> meaning of upachaya sthan?

>

>

>

> What is the use of upachaya sthan in VA? Has that

> been given or explained.

>

>

>

>

> I think everyone is saying that upachaya means

> growth, heap and prosperity,

> so how can 3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th be bad from any

> house?

>

>

>

> Please can you or Satish or Dadhi explain to me what

> did Santhanamji mean

> that 11th lord is malefic for 1st house? If he has

> said that then what is

> the meaning of upachaya?

>

>

>

> I think Santhanamji has also translated that 3, 6,

> 10 and 11th house from

> any house are the upachaya sthan.

>

>

>

>

>

> So why the contradiction?

>

>

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

>

> On

> Behalf Of Prafulla Gang

> Sunday March 23, 2008 12:16 AM

>

> RE: 2nd and 11th

> house

>

>

>

> Dear Ash

>

> One more thing from vedic astrology perspective:

>

> Bhavartha Ratnakar has explained for various lagna

> that lords of 3/6/11 are

> bad (not necessarily the houses); and if 11th lord

> joins trine lord or

> kendra lord (must be natural malefic) - then it

> gives yoga karka

> results..else it is considered bad.

>

> Upachaya generally are growth factors and strongly

> indicates present life

> karma. Native got to work for the respective

> results.

>

> I also heard few traditionalists saying that natural

> malefic in 3/6/11

> (specially if they are debilitated) are wealth

> givers.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

> " If you pick up a starving dog and make him

> prosperous, he will not bite

> you. This is the principal difference between a dog

> and a man. "

>

> ************************************************

>

> >

> > kas <kas%40ashtro.ca>

> > Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:39:18 -0400

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

> vents

> > RE: 2nd and

> 11th house

> >

> > Dear Dadhi,

> >

> >

> >

> > I am very glad that u joined in and I also invite

> others to join in this

> > discussion as personally I would like to get to

> the root of this.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes, Dadhi you are correct, the upachaya theory is

> of prime importance in

> > KAS. This upachaya has been given in each and

> every VA book. I do not

> > think anyone will oppose that. This is the basics.

> 3, 6, 10 and 11th

> > are

> > special as upachaya and the meaning of that as per

> Sanskrit disctionary

> > is

> > Heap, Growth and Prosperity. So in my opinion this

> must be used by each

> > and

> > everyone using VA.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now, Laghu Parasari also says in the initial part

> that

> >

> >

> >

> > The below has been taken from the following site.

> Those with original

> > texts

> > can confirm this if the translation is correct.

> >

> >

> >

> > http://www.astrojyo

> <http://www.astrojyoti.com/laghuparashari.htm>

> ti.com/laghuparashari.htm

> >

> >

> >

> > " 2. For the enlightenment of the learned

> astrologers, I compose this

> > Udu-daya-Pradeep on the basis of Parashara

> Hora-Shastra.

> > 3. We will include the Astrological results (good

> or bad) of the

> > Nakshatra

> > Dasha Paddhati as shown in Vimshottari System; and

> do not believe in

> > Ashtottari System.

> > 4. The learned should make themselves familiar

> with the fundamentals of

> > Astrology through other works. Here only the

> specific principles will be

> > explained. "

> >

> >

> >

> > So here I take it that the basics and meaning of

> upachaya house, if its

>

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