Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart . ThanksHussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart .ThanksHussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Dear AnupThank you for your answerbut i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me.thanksHussein Abdee"Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart ..ThanksHussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Dear Abdee, Every system is equally good,no doubt. But we are using KAS and applying its rule here. Just try to to find out delay (if not by saturn) otherwise. Also match the rest of the events given by you. Marriage happened when sun was transiting in Aries and nakhstra of Sun. As per KAS,we say events like marriage happened when sun transits strongest sign/nakshtra's lord. Sun has 149 points and Mars has 101pts in aggregate in summary sheet. Sun and Mars have less than 12 points in 7th house. Marriage happened in Rahu antra,Saturn has 7 points in 7th house. First house have 33 pts as compared to 22pts of 7th house in Summary. This also shows obstructions/obstacles and difference of opinions in married life. His father's death match as his father died in Moon antra. Moon is LoD for 4th house and weak in 11th house. Jup and Mer planets are strong planets in summary sheet. As per my understanding,Lagna should fall in Gemini sign between 20 deg-30 deg Regards Anup . hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: Dear AnupThank you for your answerbut i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me.thanksHussein Abdee"Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart ..ThanksHussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t Special deal for users friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Dear Hussein, It is better not to compare. This is not correct. The objective of Jyotish is to help mankind. If you are getting perfect answers using KN Rao’s techniques then you should follow that and devote your full efforts to understand them in deep. The same goes in learning KAS, if you are getting correct answers and are able to help mankind then please spend time in learning the laws of KAS in deep. These systems cannot be understood overnight and one has to devote a life time to it. KAS is a full system with its own parameters. Please do not ask to change this or that, as everything that is taught here including the ayanamsa is part and parcel of KAS. So please use the system with all the parameters as taught. In so many of your past mails you have brought charts from KN Rao’s site on KAS list, and I am not clear on why you are doing that? If you want to study how KAS works there are many charts on our list that have been solved. Once you gain a good understanding of KAS laws then u can take charts from various lists or sites and then analyzed them. However, if u start with little knowledge, then u will get confused and things will not make any sense. We have our laws to find delay and that too pin point, and its not based on any intuition. If in any VA books you can find or give me concrete laws on how much delay or how to compute delay for marriage then that will be great, after that we will have any base to test 2 charts for birth time. Anup has done analysis. As per our laws, for finding delay, due to Saturn and Jupiter the laws have been given. Use the same. If you are getting answer and are satisfied then its ok, if u are not, then also its ok. However, we follow the Laws laid down in KAS lessons. My suggestion to you before u start to play the role of Judge, is first you must become master of both systems i.e how KN Rao exactly finds delay, and at the same time you must also Master KAS to know how we find delay and all other timing of events. Once you get into that position, it will make more sense to COMPARE the two for yourself. I hope this is clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdee Saturday March 29, 2008 5:21 AM Re: A chart for study Dear Anup Thank you for your answer but i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me. thanks Hussein Abdee " Anup. M " <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart . Thanks Hussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Dear krushnaji, Interasting chart-male jatak name-AAM DOB-14th june 1983. timing 5:05 am at poona His father died around 16th 1988 that is shani mahadasha and moon antra Here if we mark 4th house (leo) as b then LOB is ravi LOA is jupiter and LOC is also jupiter LOD venus and LOE shani Now in house D-mercury ,mars and sun are present with 6-5-4- respectively Now LOD is venus and is along with moon Can we treat venus samadharmi to moon and therefore if shani-moon period is ok? his father died of a heart attack and moon is placed 7th from father's house (9th) pl. inform if this logic is in proper direction. secondaly the 7th worksheet shows ALL RED AND BELOW 12. HENCE HOW SHOULD WE WORKOUT HIS MARRAIGE TIMING OR THERE WONT BE A MARRIGE--OR SOME DIFFERENT MARRAIGE. Thirdly his jupiter is in the 7th house- with 6 point aspecting 11th,1st and 3rd house with minus 6 points. he doesnot have any sister/brothers-Elder or younger. his mother remarried around 22nd july 1991--with a person having three daugher.whether the new father will adopt the boy officialy and give some property etc. Kindly advise- more when we meet-with regards Deepak ______________________________\ ____ OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends:Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text2.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Dear Hossien, Just to show the consistency in the Laws of KAS and I hope you will be able to grasp the mail of Anup and the depth of KAS, I took one chart from KN Rao’s list of his Guruji. He gave the chart in one post. Here is the chart of KR Rao’s Guruji, Shri Yogi Bhaskaranandji. http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=62 Data given 1st December 1913 16:25:48 (This seems to have been corrected otherwise, I do not think that anyone measures the time in seconds) 23N2 72E37 You should get the following degrees with the following ayanamsa. KAY: 21:45:10 Planet Degrees Nakshatra Ld Nav Dec Speed As 24 Ar 2 Bharani Ve Sc - - - - Su 16 Sc 54 Jyestha Me Sg 73% 100% Mo 29 Sg 46 U.Asadha Su Sg 65% 99% MaR 2 Cn 40 Punarvasu Ju Cn 457% -12% MeR 1 Sc 2 Visakha Ju Cn 126% -23% Ju 26 Sg 40 U.Asadha Su Sg 55% 247% Ve 29 Li 34 Visakha Ju Ge 30% 127% SaR 23 Ta 24 Mrigashira Ma Le 140% -244% Ra 28 Aq 16 P.Bhadrapada Ju Ge 100% 100% Ke 28 Le 16 U.Phalguni Su Sg 100% 100% MF 1.2 1 1 1 1.4 1.4 1.2 Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 1 28 11 10 23 18 14 20 21 2 30 18 15 24 7 12 25 23 3 24 11 13 40 14 19 19 10 4 30 11 10 33 15 21 21 10 5 31 12 12 23 11 13 26 18 6 37 13 14 34 19 15 20 22 7 29 20 16 37 11 19 18 12 8 22 15 13 24 12 10 19 10 9 20 10 10 21 17 16 27 15 10 29 20 12 33 21 14 24 14 11 30 13 22 35 15 15 20 14 12 27 18 10 29 17 20 21 10 Now just use the laws that are taught in the lesson. Natural Death in the MD of 3rd lord, the antra of LoD or LoE and PDF of strongest power planet of LoD or LoE. Analysis of event of death – which happened on 12th April 1991 Aries is the lagna so both FK and NK is Mercury. Mercury does not aspect House A, B or C, So me is qualified to give death. So we can say Mercury can give death in his MD. Now, in Mercury Md, the first antra was that of Me who has 12 points in 8th house so it can’t give death. Next is Ketu. Ketu is SD to LoD and is in House D i.e. 5th house so as per our KAS laws, LoD and LoE are very eager and Ra and Ke in House D or E become very eager to give the result. So we can fix the antra to be that of Ketu. So MD of Mercury and antra of Ketu. Next is the PDF. On 12th April 1991 the pdf was that of Ma and Ketu. Ma is LoE and Ketu is in House D so the pdf is very eager to give the timing. Hossien, the reason I have given this chart, is to show the consistency of our laws. We are using the same laws. Now if birth time is right then ALL events must fall in line. Yes there might be some events that might not be visible clearly, but say if 90% of the events are in line so it means that we are close to the birth time. I have solved this chart, using Krushna’s ayanamsa and using the LAWS of KAS which are clear cut and easily visible with the worksheet. That is the beauty of KAS. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdee Saturday March 29, 2008 5:21 AM Re: A chart for study Dear Anup Thank you for your answer but i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me. thanks Hussein Abdee " Anup. M " <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart . Thanks Hussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Ash's Corner Saturday March 29, 2008 12:16 PM RE: A chart for study Dear Hossien, Just to show the consistency in the Laws of KAS and I hope you will be able to grasp the mail of Anup and the depth of KAS, I took one chart from KN Rao’s list of his Guruji. He gave the chart in one post. Here is the chart of KR Rao’s Guruji, Shri Yogi Bhaskaranandji. http://www.journalofastrology.com/article.php?article_id=62 Data given 1st December 1913 16:25:48 (This seems to have been corrected otherwise, I do not think that anyone measures the time in seconds) 23N2 72E37 You should get the following degrees with the following ayanamsa. REFER TO THE CHART COORDINATES AND POINTS IN PREVIOUS MAIL Now just use the laws that are taught in the lesson. Natural Death in the MD of 3rd lord, the antra of LoD or LoE and PDF of strongest power planet of LoD or LoE. Analysis of event of death – which happened on 12th April 1991 Aries is the lagna so both FK and NK is Mercury. Mercury does not aspect House A, B or C, So me is qualified to give death. So we can say Mercury can give death in his MD. Now, in Mercury Md, the first antra was that of Me who has 12 points in 8th house so it can’t give death. Next is Ketu. Ketu is SD to LoD and is in House D i.e. 5th house so as per our KAS laws, LoD and LoE are very eager and Ra and Ke in House D or E become very eager to give the result. So we can fix the antra to be that of Ketu. So MD of Mercury and antra of Ketu. Next is the PDF. On 12th April 1991 the pdf was that of Ma and Ketu. Ma is LoE and Ketu is in House D so the pdf is very eager to give the timing. Hossien, the reason I have given this chart, is to show the consistency of our laws. We are using the same laws. Now if birth time is right then ALL events must fall in line. Yes there might be some events that might not be visible clearly, but say if 90% of the events are in line so it means that we are close to the birth time. I have solved this chart, using Krushna’s ayanamsa and using the LAWS of KAS which are clear cut and easily visible with the worksheet. That is the beauty of KAS. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdee Saturday March 29, 2008 5:21 AM Re: A chart for study Dear Anup Thank you for your answer but i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me. thanks Hussein Abdee " Anup. M " <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart . Thanks Hussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Dear AshThank u very much for your good answeri don't want to compare 2 systems with each other and say that which one is better, i only want find some excact example.for example if a person realy married in an specific time, then it means that actually he(she) married in this time, then every system should be able to find the correct time.i love KAS systems very very much.but i think we don't able to analyze and predict all events which took place in the person's life.if we couide do this it means that the human haven't freedom in his(her) life.i repeat i love KAS very muchthank you for your answerHussein Abdee"Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Hussein, It is better not to compare. This is not correct. The objective of Jyotish is to help mankind. If you are getting perfect answers using KN Rao’s techniques then you should follow that and devote your full efforts to understand them in deep. The same goes in learning KAS, if you are getting correct answers and are able to help mankind then please spend time in learning the laws of KAS in deep. These systems cannot be understood overnight and one has to devote a life time to it. KAS is a full system with its own parameters. Please do not ask to change this or that, as everything that is taught here including the ayanamsa is part and parcel of KAS. So please use the system with all the parameters as taught. In so many of your past mails you have brought charts from KN Rao’s site on KAS list, and I am not clear on why you are doing that? If you want to study how KAS works there are many charts on our list that have been solved. Once you gain a good understanding of KAS laws then u can take charts from various lists or sites and then analyzed them. However, if u start with little knowledge, then u will get confused and things will not make any sense. We have our laws to find delay and that too pin point, and its not based on any intuition. If in any VA books you can find or give me concrete laws on how much delay or how to compute delay for marriage then that will be great, after that we will have any base to test 2 charts for birth time. Anup has done analysis. As per our laws, for finding delay, due to Saturn and Jupiter the laws have been given. Use the same. If you are getting answer and are satisfied then its ok, if u are not, then also its ok. However, we follow the Laws laid down in KAS lessons. My suggestion to you before u start to play the role of Judge, is first you must become master of both systems i.e how KN Rao exactly finds delay, and at the same time you must also Master KAS to know how we find delay and all other timing of events. Once you get into that position, it will make more sense to COMPARE the two for yourself. I hope this is clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdee Saturday March 29, 2008 5:21 AM Re: A chart for study Dear Anup Thank you for your answer but i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me. thanks Hussein Abdee "Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart . Thanks Hussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Dear AshThank you very much for this good examplebest wishesHussein Abdee"Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Hussein, It is better not to compare. This is not correct. The objective of Jyotish is to help mankind. If you are getting perfect answers using KN Rao’s techniques then you should follow that and devote your full efforts to understand them in deep. The same goes in learning KAS, if you are getting correct answers and are able to help mankind then please spend time in learning the laws of KAS in deep. These systems cannot be understood overnight and one has to devote a life time to it. KAS is a full system with its own parameters. Please do not ask to change this or that, as everything that is taught here including the ayanamsa is part and parcel of KAS. So please use the system with all the parameters as taught. In so many of your past mails you have brought charts from KN Rao’s site on KAS list, and I am not clear on why you are doing that? If you want to study how KAS works there are many charts on our list that have been solved. Once you gain a good understanding of KAS laws then u can take charts from various lists or sites and then analyzed them. However, if u start with little knowledge, then u will get confused and things will not make any sense. We have our laws to find delay and that too pin point, and its not based on any intuition. If in any VA books you can find or give me concrete laws on how much delay or how to compute delay for marriage then that will be great, after that we will have any base to test 2 charts for birth time. Anup has done analysis. As per our laws, for finding delay, due to Saturn and Jupiter the laws have been given. Use the same. If you are getting answer and are satisfied then its ok, if u are not, then also its ok. However, we follow the Laws laid down in KAS lessons. My suggestion to you before u start to play the role of Judge, is first you must become master of both systems i.e how KN Rao exactly finds delay, and at the same time you must also Master KAS to know how we find delay and all other timing of events. Once you get into that position, it will make more sense to COMPARE the two for yourself. I hope this is clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdee Saturday March 29, 2008 5:21 AM Re: A chart for study Dear Anup Thank you for your answer but i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me. thanks Hussein Abdee "Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart . Thanks Hussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Dear AnupThank you very much for your good answerplease give me the number of messages in our group which in them some example chart are available.Thank youbest wishesHussein Abdee"Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote: Dear Abdee, Every system is equally good,no doubt. But we are using KAS and applying its rule here. Just try to to find out delay (if not by saturn) otherwise. Also match the rest of the events given by you. Marriage happened when sun was transiting in Aries and nakhstra of Sun. As per KAS,we say events like marriage happened when sun transits strongest sign/nakshtra's lord. Sun has 149 points and Mars has 101pts in aggregate in summary sheet. Sun and Mars have less than 12 points in 7th house. Marriage happened in Rahu antra,Saturn has 7 points in 7th house. First house have 33 pts as compared to 22pts of 7th house in Summary. This also shows obstructions/obstacles and difference of opinions in married life. His father's death match as his father died in Moon antra. Moon is LoD for 4th house and weak in 11th house. Jup and Mer planets are strong planets in summary sheet. As per my understanding,Lagna should fall in Gemini sign between 20 deg-30 deg Regards Anup . hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Dear AnupThank you for your answerbut i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me.thanksHussein Abdee"Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart .ThanksHussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t Special deal for users friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 Dear Abdee, Just start from message number 1 in archives and you will be able to learn KAS more deeply with many charts as you required. Krushnaji himself guided every member with his mails while answering their respective queries. Likewise,you can see how much all our seniors were involoved while learning KAS. Ash is our dedicated teacher and you can learn a lot from his past mails and even replying to your latest doubts. I will suggest to have faith and confidence in KAS,gradually you will be able to learn more and more but slowly. Dive in this ocean and then your queries will be reflecting this change having an essence of KAS and its rules. Otherwise,mixing two systems will lead you nowhere except losing confidence in either of these. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: Dear AnupThank you very much for your good answerplease give me the number of messages in our group which in them some example chart are available.Thank youbest wishesHussein Abdee"Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, Every system is equally good,no doubt. But we are using KAS and applying its rule here. Just try to to find out delay (if not by saturn) otherwise. Also match the rest of the events given by you. Marriage happened when sun was transiting in Aries and nakhstra of Sun. As per KAS,we say events like marriage happened when sun transits strongest sign/nakshtra's lord. Sun has 149 points and Mars has 101pts in aggregate in summary sheet. Sun and Mars have less than 12 points in 7th house. Marriage happened in Rahu antra,Saturn has 7 points in 7th house. First house have 33 pts as compared to 22pts of 7th house in Summary. This also shows obstructions/obstacles and difference of opinions in married life. His father's death match as his father died in Moon antra. Moon is LoD for 4th house and weak in 11th house. Jup and Mer planets are strong planets in summary sheet. As per my understanding,Lagna should fall in Gemini sign between 20 deg-30 deg Regards Anup . hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Dear AnupThank you for your answerbut i find this chart in the K.N.Rao's website and he peredicted the events based on the time given(4:00 am) and the events are matched with the chart.if you don't use krushna ayanamsha and then analyze the chart ,you will see that the events are matched with the 4:00 am,i try to do more research about this.also if you find good answer for this problem please help me.thanksHussein Abdee"Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote: Dear Abdee, I am getting Lagna 3Cn41. There is big difference of time of birth in this chart. The marriage happened in Rahu antra in Rahu main. The native was married after 27yrs, then how we can justify the delay? Why he didnt married in Vnus antra? As per given TOB,he was married in Rahu antra and Rahu represent Saturn here. Saturn is weak in 7th & most the houses. We see if from lagna,Moon and Sun and their respective 7th lords ratios contradicts this. Applying more factors also does not reflect any indication. You can try similarly with Gemini lagna. Saturn delay is there. Regards Anup hossien abdee <ahahosien > wrote: Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart .ThanksHussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t Special deal for users friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Dear Deepak, Good to hear from you. Sorry about the delayed reply. A couple of observation and please share what Krushnaji and u discuss and post it so that I can get to learn. Here, you have not given the month in 1988 just 16th, but still it fall sin Moon antra. Moon, has got 25 points the highest in 6th house so that is in 4th from Mo if u take moon as lagna. So that matches. However, can you please dicuss this with Krushnaji when you get a chance to meet him. Or Is is due to the fact that Mo can come forward as it represents, the strongest power planet who is Ve and Mercury who is also in House D with 6 bindus. It is also NSD with Sun as well, and Ma too and all these can give death. So Mo can come forward, if you take the chart from Lagna and Mo can come forward and Sa MD is matching too as it is 10th lord so it is 2nd from 9th so might give accident and also Natural 11th lord so it can be linked to death of father as well. Guru aspects A as FK so it can't give result so its SD can give. Sa came first so it might give. Can you please study my mail and discuss the same with Krushnaji and share your findings with the group. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Deepak Chipalkatti <deepakchipalkatti wrote: > > Dear krushnaji, > Interasting chart-male jatak name-AAM > DOB-14th june 1983. timing 5:05 am at poona > His father died around 16th 1988 > that is shani mahadasha and moon antra > Here if we mark 4th house (leo) as b > then LOB is ravi > LOA is jupiter and LOC is also jupiter > LOD venus and LOE shani > Now in house D-mercury ,mars and sun are present > with 6-5-4- respectively > Now LOD is venus and is along with moon Can we treat > venus samadharmi to moon and therefore if shani-moon > period is ok? > his father died of a heart attack and moon is placed > 7th from father's house (9th) > pl. inform if this logic is in proper direction. > secondaly the 7th worksheet shows ALL RED AND BELOW > 12. HENCE HOW SHOULD WE WORKOUT HIS MARRAIGE TIMING OR > THERE WONT BE A MARRIGE--OR SOME DIFFERENT MARRAIGE. > Thirdly his jupiter is in the 7th house- with 6 point > aspecting 11th,1st and 3rd house with minus 6 points. > he doesnot have any sister/brothers-Elder or younger. > his mother remarried around 22nd july 1991--with a > person having three daugher.whether the new father > will adopt the boy officialy and give some property > etc. > Kindly advise- more when we meet-with regards > Deepak > > > > ____________________ ______________ > OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends:Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t > http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text2.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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