Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Dear Hussein and Group, I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me. Event: Marriage 11th May 1960. Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra. Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August 1961. Antra of Guru. Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to Mars and is NK as well. Mothers Death : September 1963 Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house. Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964. Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here so it can give a girl child. Death of Brother in May 1979 In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th house. Death of father – 24th Dec 1988 Ju/Mo antra. Moon has highest power for 4th house. Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989 Antra of Ju/Ma Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdee Thursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM Subject: A chart for study Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart . Thanks Hussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Dear Ash, Please let us know how sld we calculate delay in such chart? Regards Anup "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Hussein and Group, I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me. Event: Marriage 11th May 1960. Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra. Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August 1961. Antra of Guru. Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to Mars and is NK as well. Mothers Death : September 1963 Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house. Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964. Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here so it can give a girl child. Death of Brother in May 1979 In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th house. Death of father – 24th Dec 1988 Ju/Mo antra. Moon has highest power for 4th house. Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989 Antra of Ju/Ma Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdeeThursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM Subject: A chart for study Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart . ThanksHussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Dear Anup, In this chart there is no direct delay due to Sa and Ju. We also do not know what else happened prior to 26th year, that is one thing and a disadvantage of taking a chart were we cant verify. Now, many events are matching with this time. Check the Nakshtra of Venus and also lagna SAV points and lagna and 9th lord relation. That might be the cause for delay apart from Karak’s being SD to 6th lord. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. M Sunday March 30, 2008 2:39 PM RE: A chart for study - Part 2 Dear Ash, Please let us know how sld we calculate delay in such chart? Regards Anup " Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca " <kas wrote: Dear Hussein and Group, I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me. Event: Marriage 11th May 1960. Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra. Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August 1961. Antra of Guru. Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to Mars and is NK as well. Mothers Death : September 1963 Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house. Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964. Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here so it can give a girl child. Death of Brother in May 1979 In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th house. Death of father – 24th Dec 1988 Ju/Mo antra. Moon has highest power for 4th house. Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989 Antra of Ju/Ma Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdee Thursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM A chart for study Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart . Thanks Hussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Dear Ash, Thanks for explaining this chart. As you wrote, we dont know what happened prior to 26 years of age in native's life.In those days in sixties,we can assume this to be a appropriate delay in marraige,otherwise. One thing more about this chart is that 6th lord Jup aspecting 7th house in Rasi and NK venus is also SD to 6th lord. Why the native cldnt marry in Venus antra in 1956-1957? Likewise we got to learn more about such events. Due to non-availability of prior events (not after marriage), we can only work on his psychology,what was going on at those years. The person seems to have 2 relationships. Rest of the events match well as you described,i remember Guruji wrote in some mail that we should consider a chart correct if atleast 8 out of 10 events match. Regards Anup "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Anup, In this chart there is no direct delay due to Sa and Ju. We also do not know what else happened prior to 26th year, that is one thing and a disadvantage of taking a chart were we cant verify. Now, many events are matching with this time. Check the Nakshtra of Venus and also lagna SAV points and lagna and 9th lord relation. That might be the cause for delay apart from Karak’s being SD to 6th lord. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. MSent: Sunday March 30, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: RE: A chart for study - Part 2 Dear Ash, Please let us know how sld we calculate delay in such chart? Regards Anup "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kas wrote: Dear Hussein and Group, I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me. Event: Marriage 11th May 1960. Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra. Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August 1961. Antra of Guru. Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to Mars and is NK as well. Mothers Death : September 1963 Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house. Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964. Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here so it can give a girl child. Death of Brother in May 1979 In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th house. Death of father – 24th Dec 1988 Ju/Mo antra. Moon has highest power for 4th house. Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989 Antra of Ju/Ma Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdeeThursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM Subject: A chart for study Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart .. ThanksHussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one month at no cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Dear Anup, Yes, that is correct what you have said. How a person walks, talks, his lines on his hand, his or her facial features, the signature the shape of eyes, ears, forehead, legs, lines on legs too, all these things are helpful for perfect rectification of chart and which we do not have any access to when one is reading a chart blindly and on a and that too without any further access to confirm some things. So we can do the best we can. Yes, one more thing, I wanted to tell you, that I had rectified this chart to 4:35 but Guruji had rectified it to 4:16 specific, so there must be more things I am sure there are more things, but I am glad for 1 thing, that 1) My rectification was on the same lines as that of Guruji i.e. to forward the time 2) Many things I had discussed, were on a similar thinking process as that of Guruji (ofcourse, it’s a given that there might have been more things which Guruji did not go into detail) 3) There was something new that got highlighted and that I have written down in my email, but I am disappointed that none of the list members have picked it up or questioned me on it. Maybe the time has not come or maybe in due course of time……………………………….. atleast that’s my hope Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. M Sunday March 30, 2008 11:41 PM RE: A chart for study - Part 2 Dear Ash, Thanks for explaining this chart. As you wrote, we dont know what happened prior to 26 years of age in native's life.In those days in sixties,we can assume this to be a appropriate delay in marraige,otherwise. One thing more about this chart is that 6th lord Jup aspecting 7th house in Rasi and NK venus is also SD to 6th lord. Why the native cldnt marry in Venus antra in 1956-1957? Likewise we got to learn more about such events. Due to non-availability of prior events (not after marriage), we can only work on his psychology,what was going on at those years. The person seems to have 2 relationships. Rest of the events match well as you described,i remember Guruji wrote in some mail that we should consider a chart correct if atleast 8 out of 10 events match. Regards Anup " Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca " <kas wrote: Dear Anup, In this chart there is no direct delay due to Sa and Ju. We also do not know what else happened prior to 26th year, that is one thing and a disadvantage of taking a chart were we cant verify. Now, many events are matching with this time. Check the Nakshtra of Venus and also lagna SAV points and lagna and 9th lord relation. That might be the cause for delay apart from Karak’s being SD to 6th lord. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. M Sunday March 30, 2008 2:39 PM RE: A chart for study - Part 2 Dear Ash, Please let us know how sld we calculate delay in such chart? Regards Anup " Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca " <kas wrote: Dear Hussein and Group, I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me. Event: Marriage 11th May 1960. Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra. Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August 1961. Antra of Guru. Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to Mars and is NK as well. Mothers Death : September 1963 Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house. Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964. Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here so it can give a girl child. Death of Brother in May 1979 In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th house. Death of father – 24th Dec 1988 Ju/Mo antra. Moon has highest power for 4th house. Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989 Antra of Ju/Ma Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdee Thursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM A chart for study Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart . Thanks Hussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one month at no cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Dear Ash, Great post as usual. I am stll unable to grasp the things and line of thinking between Guruji and you. I am stuck here. In previous mail,you defined death of Brothers from 8th house. We also look 8th house for self as end of life. Another thing is birth of second daughter in Saturn antra. Should not we look for 5th house only in this chart as 11th house is considered also with 5th in case of female? And this chart belongs to a male. Here Saturn is weak with 3 points,not triggering for 5th house. No doubt it is LoD in 10th as well as 11th house. You also wrote few months back regarding this case of birth of a daughter in a male chart. I know i am taking a lot of time for this chart. Regards Anup "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Anup, Yes, that is correct what you have said. How a person walks, talks, his lines on his hand, his or her facial features, the signature the shape of eyes, ears, forehead, legs, lines on legs too, all these things are helpful for perfect rectification of chart and which we do not have any access to when one is reading a chart blindly and on a and that too without any further access to confirm some things. So we can do the best we can. Yes, one more thing, I wanted to tell you, that I had rectified this chart to 4:35 but Guruji had rectified it to 4:16 specific, so there must be more things I am sure there are more things, but I am glad for 1 thing, that 1) My rectification was on the same lines as that of Guruji i.e. to forward the time 2) Many things I had discussed, were on a similar thinking process as that of Guruji (ofcourse, it’s a given that there might have been more things which Guruji did not go into detail) 3) There was something new that got highlighted and that I have written down in my email, but I am disappointed that none of the list members have picked it up or questioned me on it. Maybe the time has not come or maybe in due course of time……………………………….. atleast that’s my hope Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. MSunday March 30, 2008 11:41 PM Subject: RE: A chart for study - Part 2 Dear Ash, Thanks for explaining this chart. As you wrote, we dont know what happened prior to 26 years of age in native's life.In those days in sixties,we can assume this to be a appropriate delay in marraige,otherwise. One thing more about this chart is that 6th lord Jup aspecting 7th house in Rasi and NK venus is also SD to 6th lord. Why the native cldnt marry in Venus antra in 1956-1957? Likewise we got to learn more about such events. Due to non-availability of prior events (not after marriage), we can only work on his psychology,what was going on at those years. The person seems to have 2 relationships. Rest of the events match well as you described,i remember Guruji wrote in some mail that we should consider a chart correct if atleast 8 out of 10 events match. Regards Anup "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kas wrote: Dear Anup, In this chart there is no direct delay due to Sa and Ju. We also do not know what else happened prior to 26th year, that is one thing and a disadvantage of taking a chart were we cant verify. Now, many events are matching with this time. Check the Nakshtra of Venus and also lagna SAV points and lagna and 9th lord relation. That might be the cause for delay apart from Karak’s being SD to 6th lord. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. MSunday March 30, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: RE: A chart for study - Part 2 Dear Ash, Please let us know how sld we calculate delay in such chart? Regards Anup "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kas wrote: Dear Hussein and Group, I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me. Event: Marriage 11th May 1960. Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra. Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August 1961. Antra of Guru. Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to Mars and is NK as well. Mothers Death : September 1963 Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house. Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964. Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here so it can give a girl child. Death of Brother in May 1979 In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th house. Death of father – 24th Dec 1988 Ju/Mo antra. Moon has highest power for 4th house. Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989 Antra of Ju/Ma Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdeeThursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM Subject: A chart for study Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: This is the birth data of a male: 13 August 1933 Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) Some events: Marriage on May 11, 1960 Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 Mother's Death in September 1963 Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 Brother's death in May 1979 Death of Father on 24th December 1988 Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 Please rectify his birth time if needed. I want to all group members study this chart . ThanksHussein Abdee Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one month at no cost. OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Dear Anup,Mars is karak for brother and that is given in standard books. Means, Mars is karak for 1st house i.e 8th from 1st house i.e Natural 8th house so its scorpio. 9th house is father so 5th house from that is that of all his children. That is also accepted.So 1st house becomes that of brother and self both as all siblings are children of father i.e. 5th from 9th and its also given in standard texts that Mars is karak for brother.Maybe over due course of time, some other house might have been taken for younger siblings as 3rd house and that of older sibblings as 11th house.We in KAS will use the 1st house for death of self also and of siblings too.However, that was not I was alluding to. W.r.t your question of 2nd child in Sa antra, the first thing is that low power planet can give a girl child, that is clear, and in 2nd case, Sa is NSD to Venus who has the highest power for 5th and it is also SD to Moon who is in House E for 5th as B with 5 bindus so Mo too is eager. Venus is in House D with 5 bindus. So this saturn can step in for the strong planet.Hope its clear, Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca--- In , "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Ash,> > > Great post as usual.> > I am stll unable to grasp the things and line of thinking > between Guruji and you.> > I am stuck here.> In previous mail,you defined death of Brothers from 8th house.> We also look 8th house for self as end of life.> > Another thing is birth of second daughter in Saturn antra.> Should not we look for 5th house only in this chart as 11th house> is considered also with 5th in case of female?> And this chart belongs to a male.> Here Saturn is weak with 3 points,not triggering for 5th house.> No doubt it is LoD in 10th as well as 11th house.> > You also wrote few months back regarding this case of> birth of a daughter in a male chart.> > I know i am taking a lot of time for this chart.> > > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ash's Corner" kas wrote:> Dear Anup,> Yes, that is correct what you have said. How a person walks, talks, his lines on his hand, his or her facial features, the signature the shape of eyes, ears, forehead, legs, lines on legs too, all these things are helpful for perfect rectification of chart and which we do not have any access to when one is reading a chart blindly and on a and that too without any further access to confirm some things.> > So we can do the best we can. > > Yes, one more thing, I wanted to tell you, that I had rectified this chart to 4:35 but Guruji had rectified it to 4:16 specific, so there must be more things I am sure there are more things, but I am glad for 1 thing, that> > 1) My rectification was on the same lines as that of Guruji i.e. to forward the time> 2) Many things I had discussed, were on a similar thinking process as that of Guruji (ofcourse, it's a given that there might have been more things which Guruji did not go into detail)> 3) There was something new that got highlighted and that I have written down in my email, but I am disappointed that none of the list members have picked it up or questioned me on it.> > Maybe the time has not come or maybe in due course of time……………………………….. atleast that's my hope> > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M> Sunday March 30, 2008 11:41 PM> > RE: A chart for study - Part 2> > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > Thanks for explaining this chart.> > As you wrote, we dont know what happened prior to 26 years> > of age in native's life.In those days in sixties,we can assume this> > to be a appropriate delay in marraige,otherwise.> > > > One thing more about this chart is that 6th lord Jup aspecting 7th house> > in Rasi and NK venus is also SD to 6th lord. > > > > Why the native cldnt marry in Venus antra in 1956-1957?> > Likewise we got to learn more about such events.> > > > Due to non-availability of prior events (not after marriage),> > we can only work on his psychology,what was going on at> > those years. > > > > The person seems to have 2 relationships.> > > > Rest of the events match well as you described,i remember Guruji> > wrote in some mail that we should consider a chart correct> > if atleast 8 out of 10 events match.> > > > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ash's Corner" kas wrote:> > Dear Anup,> > In this chart there is no direct delay due to Sa and Ju. We also do not know what else happened prior to 26th year, that is one thing and a disadvantage of taking a chart were we cant verify.> > Now, many events are matching with this time. > > Check the Nakshtra of Venus and also lagna SAV points and lagna and 9th lord relation. That might be the cause for delay apart from Karak's being SD to 6th lord.> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M> Sunday March 30, 2008 2:39 PM> > RE: A chart for study - Part 2> > > Dear Ash,> > > Please let us know how sld we calculate delay> > > in such chart?> > > Regards> > > Anup > > > > > "Ash's Corner" kas wrote:> > > Dear Hussein and Group,> > > I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me. > > > Event: Marriage 11th May 1960.> > > Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra.> > > Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August 1961.> > > Antra of Guru.> > > Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to Mars and is NK as well.> > > Mothers Death : September 1963> > > Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house.> > > Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964.> > > Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here so it can give a girl child.> > > Death of Brother in May 1979> > > In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th house. > > > Death of father – 24th Dec 1988> > > Ju/Mo antra.> > > Moon has highest power for 4th house.> > > Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989> > > Antra of Ju/Ma> > > Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death.> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > On Behalf Of hossien abdee> Thursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM> > A chart for study> > > > Hi Ash,Anup and other list members:> > > This is the birth data of a male:> > > 13 August 1933> > > Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT)> > > Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36)> > > Some events:> > > Marriage on May 11, 1960> > > Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962> > > Mother's Death in September 1963> > > Birth of second Daughter in August 1965> > > Brother's death in May 1979 > > > Death of Father on 24th December 1988> > > Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989> > > Please rectify his birth time if needed.> > > I want to all group members study this chart .> > > Thanks> Hussein Abdee> > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one month at no cost.> > > > > > > > > > > OMG, Sweet deal for users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Dear Anup,If you remember the lecture of Guruji in which he solved the chart of extreme delayed case, the logic is similar to what I have written.Here the Karak is in 12th from B, so that means 2nd house is loosing status and then both karak's Ve and Su have relation with 6th lord, and at the same time his relation with his father is 6:8 so either he might be away from the father or might not get along and 9th house is RK for 2nd house too, and at the same time the nature of the person himself u can get a judgement from SAV points in Lagna so is 33 and also in Navamsa lagna too its 32. NK is Venus and that is in nakshatra of Sun too, and in navamsa of 6th lord's house. Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca--- In , "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Ash,> > > Thanks for explaining this chart.> As you wrote, we dont know what happened prior to 26 years> of age in native's life.In those days in sixties,we can assume this> to be a appropriate delay in marraige,otherwise.> > One thing more about this chart is that 6th lord Jup aspecting 7th house> in Rasi and NK venus is also SD to 6th lord. > > Why the native cldnt marry in Venus antra in 1956-1957?> Likewise we got to learn more about such events.> > Due to non-availability of prior events (not after marriage),> we can only work on his psychology,what was going on at> those years. > > The person seems to have 2 relationships.> > Rest of the events match well as you described,i remember Guruji> wrote in some mail that we should consider a chart correct> if atleast 8 out of 10 events match.> > > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > "Ash's Corner" kas wrote:> Dear Anup,> > In this chart there is no direct delay due to Sa and Ju. We also do not know what else happened prior to 26th year, that is one thing and a disadvantage of taking a chart were we cant verify.> > Now, many events are matching with this time. > > Check the Nakshtra of Venus and also lagna SAV points and lagna and 9th lord relation. That might be the cause for delay apart from Karak's being SD to 6th lord.> > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M> Sunday March 30, 2008 2:39 PM> > RE: A chart for study - Part 2> > > Dear Ash,> > > > Please let us know how sld we calculate delay> > in such chart?> > > > > > > > Regards> > Anup > > > > > > > > > > "Ash's Corner" kas wrote:> > Dear Hussein and Group,> > I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me. > > Event: Marriage 11th May 1960.> > Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra.> > Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August 1961.> > Antra of Guru.> > Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to Mars and is NK as well.> > Mothers Death : September 1963> > Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house.> > Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964.> > Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here so it can give a girl child.> > Death of Brother in May 1979> > In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th house. > > Death of father – 24th Dec 1988> > Ju/Mo antra.> > Moon has highest power for 4th house.> > Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989> > Antra of Ju/Ma> > Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death.> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > On Behalf Of hossien abdee> Thursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM> > A chart for study> > > Hi Ash,Anup and other list members:> > This is the birth data of a male:> > 13 August 1933> > Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT)> > Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36)> > Some events:> > Marriage on May 11, 1960> > Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962> > Mother's Death in September 1963> > Birth of second Daughter in August 1965> > Brother's death in May 1979 > > Death of Father on 24th December 1988> > Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989> > Please rectify his birth time if needed.> > I want to all group members study this chart .> > Thanks> Hussein Abdee> > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.> > > > > > > > > > > Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one month at no cost.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Dear Houssin,Can you please find out the nature of this person from KN Rao?This person might be a very hot tempered and a terror at his home?Can you please confirm.Thanks,Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca--- In , "ashsam73" <kas wrote:>> Dear Anup,> If you remember the lecture of Guruji in which he solved the chart of> extreme delayed case, the logic is similar to what I have written.> Here the Karak is in 12th from B, so that means 2nd house is loosing> status and then both karak's Ve and Su have relation with 6th lord, and> at the same time his relation with his father is 6:8 so either he might> be away from the father or might not get along and 9th house is RK for> 2nd house too, and at the same time the nature of the person himself u> can get a judgement from SAV points in Lagna so is 33 and also in> Navamsa lagna too its 32. NK is Venus and that is in nakshatra of Sun> too, and in navamsa of 6th lord's house.> Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > , "Anup. M" dalh_1@> wrote:> >> > Dear Ash,> >> >> > Thanks for explaining this chart.> > As you wrote, we dont know what happened prior to 26 years> > of age in native's life.In those days in sixties,we can assume this> > to be a appropriate delay in marraige,otherwise.> >> > One thing more about this chart is that 6th lord Jup aspecting 7th> house> > in Rasi and NK venus is also SD to 6th lord.> >> > Why the native cldnt marry in Venus antra in 1956-1957?> > Likewise we got to learn more about such events.> >> > Due to non-availability of prior events (not after marriage),> > we can only work on his psychology,what was going on at> > those years.> >> > The person seems to have 2 relationships.> >> > Rest of the events match well as you described,i remember Guruji> > wrote in some mail that we should consider a chart correct> > if atleast 8 out of 10 events match.> >> >> > Regards> > Anup> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote:> > Dear Anup,> >> > In this chart there is no direct delay due to Sa and Ju. We also do> not know what else happened prior to 26th year, that is one thing and a> disadvantage of taking a chart were we cant verify.> >> > Now, many events are matching with this time.> >> > Check the Nakshtra of Venus and also lagna SAV points and lagna and> 9th lord relation. That might be the cause for delay apart from> Karak's being SD to 6th lord.> >> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> >> >> > > >> > > On Behalf Of Anup. M> > Sunday March 30, 2008 2:39 PM> > > > RE: A chart for study - Part 2> >> >> > Dear Ash,> >> >> >> > Please let us know how sld we calculate delay> >> > in such chart?> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Regards> >> > Anup> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote:> >> > Dear Hussein and Group,> >> > I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something> came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me.> >> > Event: Marriage 11th May 1960.> >> > Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in> navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra.> >> > Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August> 1961.> >> > Antra of Guru.> >> > Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to> Mars and is NK as well.> >> > Mothers Death : September 1963> >> > Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house.> >> > Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964.> >> > Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here> so it can give a girl child.> >> > Death of Brother in May 1979> >> > In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th> house.> >> > Death of father – 24th Dec 1988> >> > Ju/Mo antra.> >> > Moon has highest power for 4th house.> >> > Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989> >> > Antra of Ju/Ma> >> > Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death.> >> > Cheers !!!> >> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> >> >> >> > > >> > > On Behalf Of hossien> abdee> > Thursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM> > > > A chart for study> >> >> > Hi Ash,Anup and other list members:> >> > This is the birth data of a male:> >> > 13 August 1933> >> > Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT)> >> > Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36)> >> > Some events:> >> > Marriage on May 11, 1960> >> > Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962> >> > Mother's Death in September 1963> >> > Birth of second Daughter in August 1965> >> > Brother's death in May 1979> >> > Death of Father on 24th December 1988> >> > Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989> >> > Please rectify his birth time if needed.> >> > I want to all group members study this chart .> >> > Thanks> > Hussein Abdee> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Dear Ash, Thankyou for replying this. Sometime,we keep sticking to one line of thinking and miss other aspects. In my second question,strongest planet Venus give space to Saturn for the event as NSD. Regards Anup shsam73 <kas wrote: Dear Anup,Mars is karak for brother and that is given in standard books. Means, Mars is karak for 1st house i.e 8th from 1st house i.e Natural 8th house so its scorpio. 9th house is father so 5th house from that is that of all his children. That is also accepted.So 1st house becomes that of brother and self both as all siblings are children of father i.e. 5th from 9th and its also given in standard texts that Mars is karak for brother.Maybe over due course of time, some other house might have been taken for younger siblings as 3rd house and that of older sibblings as 11th house.We in KAS will use the 1st house for death of self also and of siblings too.However, that was not I was alluding to. W.r.t your question of 2nd child in Sa antra, the first thing is that low power planet can give a girl child, that is clear, and in 2nd case, Sa is NSD to Venus who has the highest power for 5th and it is also SD to Moon who is in House E for 5th as B with 5 bindus so Mo too is eager. Venus is in House D with 5 bindus. So this saturn can step in for the strong planet.Hope its clear, Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca--- In , "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Ash,> > > Great post as usual.> > I am stll unable to grasp the things and line of thinking > between Guruji and you.> > I am stuck here.> In previous mail,you defined death of Brothers from 8th house.> We also look 8th house for self as end of life.> > Another thing is birth of second daughter in Saturn antra.> Should not we look for 5th house only in this chart as 11th house> is considered also with 5th in case of female?> And this chart belongs to a male.> Here Saturn is weak with 3 points,not triggering for 5th house.> No doubt it is LoD in 10th as well as 11th house.> > You also wrote few months back regarding this case of> birth of a daughter in a male chart.> > I know i am taking a lot of time for this chart.> > > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ash's Corner" kas wrote:> Dear Anup,> Yes, that is correct what you have said. How a person walks, talks, his lines on his hand, his or her facial features, the signature the shape of eyes, ears, forehead, legs, lines on legs too, all these things are helpful for perfect rectification of chart and which we do not have any access to when one is reading a chart blindly and on a and that too without any further access to confirm some things.> > So we can do the best we can. > > Yes, one more thing, I wanted to tell you, that I had rectified this chart to 4:35 but Guruji had rectified it to 4:16 specific, so there must be more things I am sure there are more things, but I am glad for 1 thing, that> > 1) My rectification was on the same lines as that of Guruji i.e. to forward the time> 2) Many things I had discussed, were on a similar thinking process as that of Guruji (ofcourse, it's a given that there might have been more things which Guruji did not go into detail)> 3) There was something new that got highlighted and that I have written down in my email, but I am disappointed that none of the list members have picked it up or questioned me on it.> > Maybe the time has not come or maybe in due course of time……………………………….. atleast that's my hope> > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M> Sunday March 30, 2008 11:41 PM> > RE: A chart for study - Part 2> > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > Thanks for explaining this chart.> > As you wrote, we dont know what happened prior to 26 years> > of age in native's life.In those days in sixties,we can assume this> > to be a appropriate delay in marraige,otherwise.> > > > One thing more about this chart is that 6th lord Jup aspecting 7th house> > in Rasi and NK venus is also SD to 6th lord. > > > > Why the native cldnt marry in Venus antra in 1956-1957?> > Likewise we got to learn more about such events.> > > > Due to non-availability of prior events (not after marriage),> > we can only work on his psychology,what was going on at> > those years. > > > > The person seems to have 2 relationships.> > > > Rest of the events match well as you described,i remember Guruji> > wrote in some mail that we should consider a chart correct> > if atleast 8 out of 10 events match.> > > > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ash's Corner" kas wrote:> > Dear Anup,> > In this chart there is no direct delay due to Sa and Ju. We also do not know what else happened prior to 26th year, that is one thing and a disadvantage of taking a chart were we cant verify.> > Now, many events are matching with this time. > > Check the Nakshtra of Venus and also lagna SAV points and lagna and 9th lord relation. That might be the cause for delay apart from Karak's being SD to 6th lord.> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M> Sunday March 30, 2008 2:39 PM> > RE: A chart for study - Part 2> > > Dear Ash,> > > Please let us know how sld we calculate delay> > > in such chart?> > > Regards> > > Anup > > > > > "Ash's Corner" kas wrote:> > > Dear Hussein and Group,> > > I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me. > > > Event: Marriage 11th May 1960.> > > Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra.> > > Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August 1961.> > > Antra of Guru.> > > Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to Mars and is NK as well.> > > Mothers Death : September 1963> > > Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house.> > > Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964.> > > Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here so it can give a girl child.> > > Death of Brother in May 1979> > > In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th house. > > > Death of father – 24th Dec 1988> > > Ju/Mo antra.> > > Moon has highest power for 4th house.> > > Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989> > > Antra of Ju/Ma> > > Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death.> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > On Behalf Of hossien abdee> Thursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM> > A chart for study> > > > Hi Ash,Anup and other list members:> > > This is the birth data of a male:> > > 13 August 1933> > > Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT)> > > Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36)> > > Some events:> > > Marriage on May 11, 1960> > > Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962> > > Mother's Death in September 1963> > > Birth of second Daughter in August 1965> > > Brother's death in May 1979 > > > Death of Father on 24th December 1988> > > Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989> > > Please rectify his birth time if needed.> > > I want to all group members study this chart .> > > Thanks> Hussein Abdee> > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Dear AshThank you for your analisys in this chart, but i try to do this but i haven't the personal email of KN Rao, if you give me his email, i try to ask him about this.ThanksHussein Abdeeashsam73 <kas wrote: Dear Houssin,Can you please find out the nature of this person from KN Rao?This person might be a very hot tempered and a terror at his home?Can you please confirm.Thanks,Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca--- In , "ashsam73" <kas wrote:>> Dear Anup,> If you remember the lecture of Guruji in which he solved the chart of> extreme delayed case, the logic is similar to what I have written.> Here the Karak is in 12th from B, so that means 2nd house is loosing> status and then both karak's Ve and Su have relation with 6th lord, and> at the same time his relation with his father is 6:8 so either he might> be away from the father or might not get along and 9th house is RK for> 2nd house too, and at the same time the nature of the person himself u> can get a judgement from SAV points in Lagna so is 33 and also in> Navamsa lagna too its 32. NK is Venus and that is in nakshatra of Sun> too, and in navamsa of 6th lord's house.> Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > , "Anup. M" dalh_1@> wrote:> >> > Dear Ash,> >> >> > Thanks for explaining this chart.> > As you wrote, we dont know what happened prior to 26 years> > of age in native's life.In those days in sixties,we can assume this> > to be a appropriate delay in marraige,otherwise.> >> > One thing more about this chart is that 6th lord Jup aspecting 7th> house> > in Rasi and NK venus is also SD to 6th lord.> >> > Why the native cldnt marry in Venus antra in 1956-1957?> > Likewise we got to learn more about such events.> >> > Due to non-availability of prior events (not after marriage),> > we can only work on his psychology,what was going on at> > those years.> >> > The person seems to have 2 relationships.> >> > Rest of the events match well as you described,i remember Guruji> > wrote in some mail that we should consider a chart correct> > if atleast 8 out of 10 events match.> >> >> > Regards> > Anup> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote:> > Dear Anup,> >> > In this chart there is no direct delay due to Sa and Ju. We also do> not know what else happened prior to 26th year, that is one thing and a> disadvantage of taking a chart were we cant verify.> >> > Now, many events are matching with this time.> >> > Check the Nakshtra of Venus and also lagna SAV points and lagna and> 9th lord relation. That might be the cause for delay apart from> Karak's being SD to 6th lord.> >> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> >> >> > > >> > > On Behalf Of Anup. M> > Sunday March 30, 2008 2:39 PM> > > > RE: A chart for study - Part 2> >> >> > Dear Ash,> >> >> >> > Please let us know how sld we calculate delay> >> > in such chart?> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Regards> >> > Anup> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote:> >> > Dear Hussein and Group,> >> > I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something> came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me.> >> > Event: Marriage 11th May 1960.> >> > Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in> navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra.> >> > Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August> 1961.> >> > Antra of Guru.> >> > Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to> Mars and is NK as well.> >> > Mothers Death : September 1963> >> > Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house.> >> > Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964.> >> > Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here> so it can give a girl child.> >> > Death of Brother in May 1979> >> > In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th> house.> >> > Death of father – 24th Dec 1988> >> > Ju/Mo antra.> >> > Moon has highest power for 4th house.> >> > Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989> >> > Antra of Ju/Ma> >> > Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death.> >> > Cheers !!!> >> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> >> >> >> > > >> > > On Behalf Of hossien> abdee> > Thursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM> > > > A chart for study> >> >> > Hi Ash,Anup and other list members:> >> > This is the birth data of a male:> >> > 13 August 1933> >> > Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT)> >> > Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36)> >> > Some events:> >> > Marriage on May 11, 1960> >> > Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962> >> > Mother's Death in September 1963> >> > Birth of second Daughter in August 1965> >> > Brother's death in May 1979> >> > Death of Father on 24th December 1988> >> > Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989> >> > Please rectify his birth time if needed.> >> > I want to all group members study this chart .> >> > Thanks> > Hussein Abdee> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Dear Hussein, What is this ???? Are u trying to make a fool out of me Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: > > > Dear Ash > Thank you for your analisys in this chart, but i try to do this but i haven't the personal email of KN Rao, if you give me his email, i try to ask him about this. > Thanks > Hussein Abdee > > ashsam73 <kas wrote: Dear Houssin, > > Can you please find out the nature of this person from KN Rao? > > This person might be a very hot tempered and a terror at his home? > > Can you please confirm. > > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > If you remember the lecture of Guruji in which he solved the chart of > > extreme delayed case, the logic is similar to what I have written. > > Here the Karak is in 12th from B, so that means 2nd house is loosing > > status and then both karak's Ve and Su have relation with 6th lord, and > > at the same time his relation with his father is 6:8 so either he might > > be away from the father or might not get along and 9th house is RK for > > 2nd house too, and at the same time the nature of the person himself u > > can get a judgement from SAV points in Lagna so is 33 and also in > > Navamsa lagna too its 32. NK is Venus and that is in nakshatra of Sun > > too, and in navamsa of 6th lord's house. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , " Anup. M " dalh_1@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > Thanks for explaining this chart. > > > As you wrote, we dont know what happened prior to 26 years > > > of age in native's life.In those days in sixties,we can assume this > > > to be a appropriate delay in marraige,otherwise. > > > > > > One thing more about this chart is that 6th lord Jup aspecting 7th > > house > > > in Rasi and NK venus is also SD to 6th lord. > > > > > > Why the native cldnt marry in Venus antra in 1956-1957? > > > Likewise we got to learn more about such events. > > > > > > Due to non-availability of prior events (not after marriage), > > > we can only work on his psychology,what was going on at > > > those years. > > > > > > The person seems to have 2 relationships. > > > > > > Rest of the events match well as you described,i remember Guruji > > > wrote in some mail that we should consider a chart correct > > > if atleast 8 out of 10 events match. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > In this chart there is no direct delay due to Sa and Ju. We also do > > not know what else happened prior to 26th year, that is one thing and a > > disadvantage of taking a chart were we cant verify. > > > > > > Now, many events are matching with this time. > > > > > > Check the Nakshtra of Venus and also lagna SAV points and lagna and > > 9th lord relation. That might be the cause for delay apart from > > Karak's being SD to 6th lord. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > > > Sunday March 30, 2008 2:39 PM > > > > > > RE: A chart for study - Part 2 > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let us know how sld we calculate delay > > > > > > in such chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > > > I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something > > came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me. > > > > > > Event: Marriage 11th May 1960. > > > > > > Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in > > navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra. > > > > > > Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August > > 1961. > > > > > > Antra of Guru. > > > > > > Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to > > Mars and is NK as well. > > > > > > Mothers Death : September 1963 > > > > > > Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house. > > > > > > Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964. > > > > > > Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here > > so it can give a girl child. > > > > > > Death of Brother in May 1979 > > > > > > In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th > > house. > > > > > > Death of father – 24th Dec 1988 > > > > > > Ju/Mo antra. > > > > > > Moon has highest power for 4th house. > > > > > > Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989 > > > > > > Antra of Ju/Ma > > > > > > Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of hossien > > abdee > > > Thursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM > > > > > > A chart for study > > > > > > > > > Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: > > > > > > This is the birth data of a male: > > > > > > 13 August 1933 > > > > > > Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) > > > > > > Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) > > > > > > Some events: > > > > > > Marriage on May 11, 1960 > > > > > > Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 > > > > > > Mother's Death in September 1963 > > > > > > Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 > > > > > > Brother's death in May 1979 > > > > > > Death of Father on 24th December 1988 > > > > > > Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 > > > > > > Please rectify his birth time if needed. > > > > > > I want to all group members study this chart . > > > > > > Thanks > > > Hussein Abdee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Dear Ashi think it is better fo us to don't analyze the KNRao's charts and i try to go archives for more examples in KAS system.thanksHusseinashsam73 <kas wrote: Dear Hussein, What is this ???? Are u trying to make a fool out of me Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: > > > Dear Ash > Thank you for your analisys in this chart, but i try to do this but i haven't the personal email of KN Rao, if you give me his email, i try to ask him about this. > Thanks > Hussein Abdee > > ashsam73 <kas wrote: Dear Houssin, > > Can you please find out the nature of this person from KN Rao? > > This person might be a very hot tempered and a terror at his home? > > Can you please confirm. > > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > , "ashsam73" <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > If you remember the lecture of Guruji in which he solved the chart of > > extreme delayed case, the logic is similar to what I have written. > > Here the Karak is in 12th from B, so that means 2nd house is loosing > > status and then both karak's Ve and Su have relation with 6th lord, and > > at the same time his relation with his father is 6:8 so either he might > > be away from the father or might not get along and 9th house is RK for > > 2nd house too, and at the same time the nature of the person himself u > > can get a judgement from SAV points in Lagna so is 33 and also in > > Navamsa lagna too its 32. NK is Venus and that is in nakshatra of Sun > > too, and in navamsa of 6th lord's house. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , "Anup. M" dalh_1@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > Thanks for explaining this chart. > > > As you wrote, we dont know what happened prior to 26 years > > > of age in native's life.In those days in sixties,we can assume this > > > to be a appropriate delay in marraige,otherwise. > > > > > > One thing more about this chart is that 6th lord Jup aspecting 7th > > house > > > in Rasi and NK venus is also SD to 6th lord. > > > > > > Why the native cldnt marry in Venus antra in 1956-1957? > > > Likewise we got to learn more about such events. > > > > > > Due to non-availability of prior events (not after marriage), > > > we can only work on his psychology,what was going on at > > > those years. > > > > > > The person seems to have 2 relationships. > > > > > > Rest of the events match well as you described,i remember Guruji > > > wrote in some mail that we should consider a chart correct > > > if atleast 8 out of 10 events match. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > In this chart there is no direct delay due to Sa and Ju. We also do > > not know what else happened prior to 26th year, that is one thing and a > > disadvantage of taking a chart were we cant verify. > > > > > > Now, many events are matching with this time. > > > > > > Check the Nakshtra of Venus and also lagna SAV points and lagna and > > 9th lord relation. That might be the cause for delay apart from > > Karak's being SD to 6th lord. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > > > Sunday March 30, 2008 2:39 PM > > > > > > RE: A chart for study - Part 2 > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let us know how sld we calculate delay > > > > > > in such chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > > > I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something > > came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me. > > > > > > Event: Marriage 11th May 1960. > > > > > > Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in > > navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra. > > > > > > Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August > > 1961. > > > > > > Antra of Guru. > > > > > > Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to > > Mars and is NK as well. > > > > > > Mothers Death : September 1963 > > > > > > Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house. > > > > > > Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964. > > > > > > Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here > > so it can give a girl child. > > > > > > Death of Brother in May 1979 > > > > > > In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th > > house. > > > > > > Death of father – 24th Dec 1988 > > > > > > Ju/Mo antra. > > > > > > Moon has highest power for 4th house. > > > > > > Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989 > > > > > > Antra of Ju/Ma > > > > > > Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of hossien > > abdee > > > Thursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM > > > > > > A chart for study > > > > > > > > > Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: > > > > > > This is the birth data of a male: > > > > > > 13 August 1933 > > > > > > Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) > > > > > > Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) > > > > > > Some events: > > > > > > Marriage on May 11, 1960 > > > > > > Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 > > > > > > Mother's Death in September 1963 > > > > > > Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 > > > > > > Brother's death in May 1979 > > > > > > Death of Father on 24th December 1988 > > > > > > Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 > > > > > > Please rectify his birth time if needed. > > > > > > I want to all group members study this chart . > > > > > > Thanks > > > Hussein Abdee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Dear Hussein, One thing, if a person comes to you, and has faith and then puts forward his question in a proper way, then the astrologer can focus and give answer. This is when a person is looking for analysis. He is giving his data, so that the chart can first be checked for birth time accuracy. That is first and foremost and that has been taught by Krushnaji on this list. Now in the chart you gave, you gave many events, so that helped us to correct the chart and the timing. The time given was 4 pm and we rectified it to 4:16 using KAS and the lessons taught i.e. with consistency. So everyone including me learnt from it as it was an exercise. So that is good. Anup also attempted and there are 1300+ silent members here too so they too and at their pace can learn from the analysis. Each and every step was given, scrutinized and explained. This was a postmortem exercise but here we were using the same consistent laws and the WS. Death of Mother and Father and Brother all in Highest power planet or their SD was the key. Now, if YOU give the chart, then you must have access for the data as well. There are much finer things that we are checking too but that is in the back ground. So, now thing about it. Here is a chart which was solved by an astrologer, that astrologer has access to this person and past data, which we are not privy to, except for the data that is given. It is like blind folding us and then asking us to use the sounds and find our way and that is tough, however we got the LIGHT of KAS to guide us and its laws and that is what we are using and have used so that chart highlighted the use of the laws. Now, in addition I pointed out KN Rao’s guruji’s chart too and solved it using the laws of KAS. I think if one is interested in understanding the power of KAS or the value that KAS brings, that is sufficient and ofcouse there is the wealth in the archives and of mails by Krushanji. Now if you are finished with Testing of KAS, then take charts of people who’s birth time u are confident of and then u study these charts using the laws of KAS. There are some charts that will be difficult so leave those charts in a separate folder and then revisit them when you gain more experience and also gain more insight with further lessons. Taking charts from a website and not knowing anything further about the person or having access to it, is a futile task. See some charts, that have been solved on the list and its in the archives, on how a native has given the chart and has CONFIRMED that the birth time was correct and Krushanji has openly said that this cannot be your birth time, and he corrected the time by nearly 1 hour or thereabouts and then after that made prediction on childbirth and that came true and that person came back and acknowledged it. But then again, sirf jahuri ko hi heeere ki kadar hoti hai..... (for those non Hindi speaking translation is “only the jeweler can gauge the value a diamond”) Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hossien abdee Tuesday April 1, 2008 4:51 PM To: Re: Re: A chart for study - Part 2 Dear Ash i think it is better fo us to don't analyze the KNRao's charts and i try to go archives for more examples in KAS system. thanks Hussein ashsam73 <kas wrote: Dear Hussein, What is this ???? Are u trying to make a fool out of me Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: > > > Dear Ash > Thank you for your analisys in this chart, but i try to do this but i haven't the personal email of KN Rao, if you give me his email, i try to ask him about this. > Thanks > Hussein Abdee > > ashsam73 <kas wrote: Dear Houssin, > > Can you please find out the nature of this person from KN Rao? > > This person might be a very hot tempered and a terror at his home? > > Can you please confirm. > > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > If you remember the lecture of Guruji in which he solved the chart of > > extreme delayed case, the logic is similar to what I have written. > > Here the Karak is in 12th from B, so that means 2nd house is loosing > > status and then both karak's Ve and Su have relation with 6th lord, and > > at the same time his relation with his father is 6:8 so either he might > > be away from the father or might not get along and 9th house is RK for > > 2nd house too, and at the same time the nature of the person himself u > > can get a judgement from SAV points in Lagna so is 33 and also in > > Navamsa lagna too its 32. NK is Venus and that is in nakshatra of Sun > > too, and in navamsa of 6th lord's house. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , " Anup. M " dalh_1@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > Thanks for explaining this chart. > > > As you wrote, we dont know what happened prior to 26 years > > > of age in native's life.In those days in sixties,we can assume this > > > to be a appropriate delay in marraige,otherwise. > > > > > > One thing more about this chart is that 6th lord Jup aspecting 7th > > house > > > in Rasi and NK venus is also SD to 6th lord. > > > > > > Why the native cldnt marry in Venus antra in 1956-1957? > > > Likewise we got to learn more about such events. > > > > > > Due to non-availability of prior events (not after marriage), > > > we can only work on his psychology,what was going on at > > > those years. > > > > > > The person seems to have 2 relationships. > > > > > > Rest of the events match well as you described,i remember Guruji > > > wrote in some mail that we should consider a chart correct > > > if atleast 8 out of 10 events match. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > In this chart there is no direct delay due to Sa and Ju. We also do > > not know what else happened prior to 26th year, that is one thing and a > > disadvantage of taking a chart were we cant verify. > > > > > > Now, many events are matching with this time. > > > > > > Check the Nakshtra of Venus and also lagna SAV points and lagna and > > 9th lord relation. That might be the cause for delay apart from > > Karak's being SD to 6th lord. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > > > Sunday March 30, 2008 2:39 PM > > > > > > RE: A chart for study - Part 2 > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let us know how sld we calculate delay > > > > > > in such chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > > > I would like to thank Hussein for giving this chart as something > > came to the highlight and Krushnaji clarified that for me. > > > > > > Event: Marriage 11th May 1960. > > > > > > Rahu antra – Rahu represents Saturn and is SD to Ve and Ju in > > navamsa. Venus is LoD so Event can take place in Rahu antra. > > > > > > Birth of 1st Daughter is 24th May 1962 so conception around August > > 1961. > > > > > > Antra of Guru. > > > > > > Guru has 13 points in 5th house so can give result as its SD to > > Mars and is NK as well. > > > > > > Mothers Death : September 1963 > > > > > > Antra of Saturn – Saturn has the highest power for 10th house. > > > > > > Birth of 2nd daughter – Aug 1965 so conception in Nov 1964. > > > > > > Sa is NSD to Venus so Sa can give result. It has low power here > > so it can give a girl child. > > > > > > Death of Brother in May 1979 > > > > > > In Sa antra. Sa is SD to Moon and Moon has highest power for 8th > > house. > > > > > > Death of father – 24th Dec 1988 > > > > > > Ju/Mo antra. > > > > > > Moon has highest power for 4th house. > > > > > > Death of elder brother – 2nd oct 1989 > > > > > > Antra of Ju/Ma > > > > > > Ma is LoD for 8th house so eager to give death. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of hossien > > abdee > > > Thursday March 27, 2008 11:39 AM > > > > > > A chart for study > > > > > > > > > Hi Ash,Anup and other list members: > > > > > > This is the birth data of a male: > > > > > > 13 August 1933 > > > > > > Birth time:4:00 am(5:30 east of GMT) > > > > > > Place: New Dehli(77E12, 28N36) > > > > > > Some events: > > > > > > Marriage on May 11, 1960 > > > > > > Birth of the first daughter on 24th May 1962 > > > > > > Mother's Death in September 1963 > > > > > > Birth of second Daughter in August 1965 > > > > > > Brother's death in May 1979 > > > > > > Death of Father on 24th December 1988 > > > > > > Death of Elder Brother on 2nd October 1989 > > > > > > Please rectify his birth time if needed. > > > > > > I want to all group members study this chart . > > > > > > Thanks > > > Hussein Abdee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. 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