Love marriage-attraction

May 4, 2008

Dear Ash and list members,I was going through the post 'attraction' in the forum. I give below 2 charts which ended up in marriage. Boy is a Hindu and the girl is a Russian. I would request Ash and other members to see whether my reasoning is correct.Boy's Data: 04th January, 1978; TOB: 22:42: Time Zone: IST -5:30 Long: 77 E 26; Lat: 8 N 10; Ayanamsa used: 22:39:38Girl's Data: 02nd February, 1979; TOB: 16:15: Time Zone: EET -2.00 Long: 28 E 38; Lat: 53 N 17; Ayanamsa used: 22:40:33About Attraction: If we overlap the charts -In Rasi Chart:1. Saturn of Male conjojns Saturn of Female.2. Rahu of Male aspects Mars of Female.3. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.4. Rahu of female aspects Venus.In the Navamsa Chart1. Saturn of Male conjoins Mars of Female.2. Rahu of Male conjoins Mars of Female.3. Mars of Male aspects Venus of Female.4. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.5. Moon of Female and Sun of Male aspect each other (For friendship)So relationship between Venus with Rahu in the male's chart,Mars with Rahu in both the charts and Mars with Saturn in female chart is established.Relationship of Mars and Venus is in femlae chart only.Sun annd Moon relationship is also only in female chart.Timing of friendship:5th house is the house of friendship. In both the charts Jupiter has the highest points in the WS for 5th house.The couple informed that they got into friendship around middle of 2003.Girl was having Antara of Ketu from 14.05.2003 to 13.07.2004Boy was having Antara of Venus from 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004Ketu in Girl's chart should give effects of Jupiter as he is in his constellation or Saturn in whose house he is placed.In boy's chart there is only aspect of Jupiter from house 'C' on Venus.My little knowledge is unable to corelate this. Can any one explain the samee ?Other Points:Actual marriage took place on 21st August 2004 in Foreign country - Belarus.Girl was running Antara of Sun : 13.07.2004 to 31.10.2004. Sun is having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.Boy was running Antara of Venus: 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004. Venus is having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.In Girl's chart Sun is with LOE-Mercury. Being Samdharmi to Mercury who is having more than 12 points in WS of 7th house might have brought about the marriage.In Boy's chart Sun is with venus in the 5th house. Hence being Samdharmi to Sun who has 16 points in the WS of 7th house he might have triggered the marriage.Other than this I am unable to find out any reason for the timing of marriage.What other points are to be seen?If we see the PDF the combination of planets -denoting the significance- are Moon and Mercury during 3rd Aug to 16th Aug and Sun and Ketu during 17th Aug. to 30th Aug.The distance between Venus and Sun is less than 43 degree (around 36 degree). But Venus is in Mula Nakshatra. So it gets spoiled. (or is it to be taken only when the distance is more than 43 degree). However there is no aspect of either Jupiter or Saturn on Venus. And also Jupiter is in Libra Navamsa - What would be the outcome of this ?Also there is an aspect of 6th lord (Saturn in boy's chart and Jupiter in girl's chart) aspecting the 7th house.The Ascendant of the boy has 33 points and the Girl has only 22 points SAV. The combinations of Lord of Lagna, Moon and Sun plus the lord of 7th from them - for the girl it is more than 50 and the boy it is only 40.Does all these indicate any trouble in the married life ?Message for Mr. Ash:I am still going through the Archives. Oh! What a store of information it has. In the meantime, I got this horoscope for analysis. The doubts that I got I have mentioned above. Kindly clarify.Bala

May 4, 2008

Dear Bala and List, You have attempted this in nice way applying KAS and its rules.I wld like to write few words in this context, while going thru your mail. I am getting Asc 26 Le 28 for male chart. There is Saturn delay moderated/nullify by Jup aspect on Sat in navamsa. Venus the natural Karka and Mer,the FK both are debiliated in Navamsa. 1st house have 33pts as compared to 20 in 7th house. Marriage happened in Aug2004 in Venus antra. Venus aspects house C. So how marriage happened in Venus antra? Sun being SD can not step in for Venus here. Venus is spoiled a little being within 4deg to Sun and with Sun.. In venus antra,involvement in a relationship cant be denied.Sat and Mars become strong taking points from Mer and Moon respectively. While taking Virgo lagna,Sun and Venus can give marriage. I may be wrong but members can correct me. Regards Anup Balasubramanian <yenbeeyes wrote: Dear Ash and list members,I was going through the post 'attraction' in the forum. I give below 2 charts which ended up in marriage. Boy is a Hindu and the girl is a Russian. I would request Ash and other members to see whether my reasoning is correct.Boy's Data: 04th January, 1978; TOB: 22:42: Time Zone: IST -5:30 Long: 77 E 26; Lat: 8 N 10; Ayanamsa used: 22:39:38Girl's Data: 02nd February, 1979; TOB: 16:15: Time Zone: EET -2.00 Long: 28 E 38; Lat: 53 N 17; Ayanamsa used: 22:40:33About Attraction: If we overlap the charts -In Rasi Chart:1. Saturn of Male

conjojns Saturn of Female.2. Rahu of Male aspects Mars of Female.3. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.4. Rahu of female aspects Venus.In the Navamsa Chart1. Saturn of Male conjoins Mars of Female.2. Rahu of Male conjoins Mars of Female.3. Mars of Male aspects Venus of Female.4. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.5. Moon of Female and Sun of Male aspect each other (For friendship)So relationship between Venus with Rahu in the male's chart,Mars with Rahu in both the charts and Mars with Saturn in female chart is established.Relationship of Mars and Venus is in femlae chart only.Sun annd Moon relationship is also only in female chart.Timing of friendship:5th house is the house of friendship. In both the charts Jupiter has the highest points in the WS for 5th house.The couple informed that they got into friendship around middle of 2003.Girl was having Antara of Ketu from

14.05.2003 to 13.07.2004Boy was having Antara of Venus from 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004Ketu in Girl's chart should give effects of Jupiter as he is in his constellation or Saturn in whose house he is placed.In boy's chart there is only aspect of Jupiter from house 'C' on Venus.My little knowledge is unable to corelate this. Can any one explain the samee ?Other Points:Actual marriage took place on 21st August 2004 in Foreign country - Belarus.Girl was running Antara of Sun : 13.07.2004 to 31.10.2004. Sun is having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.Boy was running Antara of Venus: 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004. Venus is having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.In Girl's chart Sun is with LOE-Mercury. Being Samdharmi to Mercury who is having more than 12 points in WS of 7th house might have brought about the marriage.In Boy's chart Sun is with venus in the 5th house. Hence being Samdharmi

to Sun who has 16 points in the WS of 7th house he might have triggered the marriage.Other than this I am unable to find out any reason for the timing of marriage.What other points are to be seen?If we see the PDF the combination of planets -denoting the significance- are Moon and Mercury during 3rd Aug to 16th Aug and Sun and Ketu during 17th Aug. to 30th Aug.The distance between Venus and Sun is less than 43 degree (around 36 degree). But Venus is in Mula Nakshatra. So it gets spoiled. (or is it to be taken only when the distance is more than 43 degree). However there is no aspect of either Jupiter or Saturn on Venus. And also Jupiter is in Libra Navamsa - What would be the outcome of this ?Also there is an aspect of 6th lord (Saturn in boy's chart and Jupiter in girl's chart) aspecting the 7th house.The Ascendant of the boy has 33 points and the Girl has only 22 points SAV. The combinations of Lord

of Lagna, Moon and Sun plus the lord of 7th from them - for the girl it is more than 50 and the boy it is only 40.Does all these indicate any trouble in the married life ?Message for Mr. Ash:I am still going through the Archives. Oh! What a store of information it has. In the meantime, I got this horoscope for analysis. The doubts that I got I have mentioned above. Kindly clarify.Bala

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May 4, 2008

Dear Anup,

I note your points. Position of Lagna as indicated by you is correct.

The native (male) informed me that his grandfather himself is an

Astrologer and that the birth time can never be wrong.

All other points mentioned by you are noted by me. As you said let me

wait till other members respond.

Bala

, " Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Bala and List,

>

> You have attempted this in nice way applying KAS

> and its rules.I wld like to write few words in this context,

> while going thru your mail.

>

> I am getting Asc 26 Le 28 for male chart.

> There is Saturn delay moderated/nullify by Jup aspect on

> Sat in navamsa.

> Venus the natural Karka and Mer,the FK both are

> debiliated in Navamsa.

> 1st house have 33pts as compared to 20 in 7th house.

>

> Marriage happened in Aug2004 in Venus antra.

> Venus aspects house C.

> So how marriage happened in Venus antra?

> Sun being SD can not step in for Venus here.

>

> Venus is spoiled a little being within 4deg to Sun

> and with Sun..

> In venus antra,involvement in a relationship

> cant be denied.Sat and Mars become strong taking points

> from Mer and Moon respectively.

>

> While taking Virgo lagna,Sun and Venus can give marriage.

> I may be wrong but members can correct me.

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

Balasubramanian <yenbeeyes wrote:

> Dear Ash and list members,

>

> I was going through the post 'attraction' in the forum. I give below

2 charts which ended up in marriage. Boy is a Hindu and the girl is a

Russian. I would request Ash and other members to see whether my

reasoning is correct.

>

> Boy's Data: 04th January, 1978; TOB: 22:42: Time Zone: IST -5:30

> Long: 77 E 26; Lat: 8 N 10; Ayanamsa used: 22:39:38

>

> Girl's Data: 02nd February, 1979; TOB: 16:15: Time Zone: EET -2.00

> Long: 28 E 38; Lat: 53 N 17; Ayanamsa used: 22:40:33

>

> About Attraction: If we overlap the charts -

>

> In Rasi Chart:

> 1. Saturn of Male conjojns Saturn of Female.

> 2. Rahu of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 3. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 4. Rahu of female aspects Venus.

>

> In the Navamsa Chart

> 1. Saturn of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> 2. Rahu of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> 3. Mars of Male aspects Venus of Female.

> 4. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 5. Moon of Female and Sun of Male aspect each other (For friendship)

>

> So relationship between Venus with Rahu in the male's chart,Mars

with Rahu in both the charts and Mars with Saturn in female chart is

established.

> Relationship of Mars and Venus is in femlae chart only.

> Sun annd Moon relationship is also only in female chart.

>

> Timing of friendship:

>

> 5th house is the house of friendship. In both the charts Jupiter has

the highest points in the WS for 5th house.

>

> The couple informed that they got into friendship around middle of 2003.

>

> Girl was having Antara of Ketu from 14.05.2003 to 13.07.2004

> Boy was having Antara of Venus from 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004

>

> Ketu in Girl's chart should give effects of Jupiter as he is in his

constellation or Saturn in whose house he is placed.

> In boy's chart there is only aspect of Jupiter from house 'C' on Venus.

>

> My little knowledge is unable to corelate this. Can any one explain

the samee ?

>

> Other Points:

>

> Actual marriage took place on 21st August 2004 in Foreign country -

Belarus.

>

> Girl was running Antara of Sun : 13.07.2004 to 31.10.2004. Sun is

having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

> Boy was running Antara of Venus: 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004. Venus is

having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

>

> In Girl's chart Sun is with LOE-Mercury. Being Samdharmi to Mercury

who is having more than 12 points in WS of 7th house might have

brought about the marriage.

>

> In Boy's chart Sun is with venus in the 5th house. Hence being

Samdharmi to Sun who has 16 points in the WS of 7th house he might

have triggered the marriage.

>

> Other than this I am unable to find out any reason for the timing of

marriage.

>

> What other points are to be seen?

>

> If we see the PDF the combination of planets -denoting the

significance- are Moon and Mercury during 3rd Aug to 16th Aug and Sun

and Ketu during 17th Aug. to 30th Aug.

>

> The distance between Venus and Sun is less than 43 degree (around 36

degree). But Venus is in Mula Nakshatra. So it gets spoiled. (or is it

to be taken only when the distance is more than 43 degree). However

there is no aspect of either Jupiter or Saturn on Venus.

> And also Jupiter is in Libra Navamsa - What would be the outcome of

this ?

>

> Also there is an aspect of 6th lord (Saturn in boy's chart and

Jupiter in girl's chart) aspecting the 7th house.

>

> The Ascendant of the boy has 33 points and the Girl has only 22

points SAV.

>

> The combinations of Lord of Lagna, Moon and Sun plus the lord of 7th

from them - for the girl it is more than 50 and the boy it is only 40.

>

> Does all these indicate any trouble in the married life ?

>

> Message for Mr. Ash:

>

> I am still going through the Archives. Oh! What a store of

information it has. In the meantime, I got this horoscope for

analysis. The doubts that I got I have mentioned above. Kindly clarify.

>

> Bala

>

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

>

May 4, 2008

Dear

Bala,

I

went though both charts, however, I would to ask if the girl’s chart is

correct?

Yes,

one thing to note in both cases is that marriage is happening in lowest

points. In the girl’s chart

with the current data, all our laws for multiple marriages or unhappy marriage

are applicable. Venus to Sun is 46,

Ve in moola, Sun in 7th,

Ju in libra, also Ju is 6th lord and its

aspecting 7th house and 2nd lord too etc etc. Here also to note that lagna and 7th

are in 5:9 in both rasi. In both cases, Mars has become very

powerful.

In

the boy’s chart there is delay due to Sa and moderated and there is 1

zero due to Sa too. So say delay is

29 and moderated to 25 and that time Ve antra was

running. Ve

is SD to Me who is in House D with 6 bindus so eager, thereby making Venus

eager to deliver, however Venus itself is weak. So here marriage is in low power planet.

Now,

as per our laws, if marriage happens in low points then it breaks in high power

planet. Now, also one more point to

note that these laws are based on Indian society so they have to be translated

in accordance.

Now,

due to attraction, the couple might have come close together, and in Boys chart

its in Ve antra, and Ve is

LoE for 5th and placed in House E for 12th with more

points thereby making it eager.

Also

in many cases when the couple do not have children then also marriage happen in

low points.

Note:

In the girls chart, DBCE points are rising from Sun, Ju is in libra, Ju is aspecting 2nd and 7th lord/

house, Ve is moola, and

there is delay due to Saturn and Sun is in 7th house. These things shows multiple marriages or

relations.

What

is their status currently Bala, regarding happiness in marriage or children?

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of Balasubramanian

Sunday May 4, 2008 10:48 AM

To:

Subject:

Re: Love marriage-attraction

Dear Anup,

I note your points. Position of Lagna as indicated by you is correct.

The native (male) informed me that his grandfather himself is an

Astrologer and that the birth time can never be wrong.

All other points mentioned by you are noted by me. As you said let me

wait till other members respond.

Bala

,

" Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Bala and List,

>

> You have attempted this in nice way applying KAS

> and its rules.I wld like to write few words in this context,

> while going thru your mail.

>

> I am getting Asc 26 Le 28 for male chart.

> There is Saturn delay moderated/nullify by Jup aspect on

> Sat in navamsa.

> Venus the natural Karka and Mer,the FK both are

> debiliated in Navamsa.

> 1st house have 33pts as compared to 20 in 7th house.

>

> Marriage happened in Aug2004 in Venus antra.

> Venus aspects house C.

> So how marriage happened in Venus antra?

> Sun being SD can not step in for Venus here.

>

> Venus is spoiled a little being within 4deg to Sun

> and with Sun..

> In venus antra,involvement in a relationship

> cant be denied.Sat and Mars become strong taking points

> from Mer and Moon respectively.

>

> While taking Virgo lagna,Sun and Venus can give marriage.

> I may be wrong but members can correct me.

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

> Balasubramanian <yenbeeyes wrote:

> Dear Ash and list members,

>

> I was going through the post 'attraction' in the forum. I give below

2 charts which ended up in marriage. Boy is a Hindu and the girl is a

Russian. I would request Ash and other members to see whether my

reasoning is correct.

>

> Boy's Data: 04th January, 1978; TOB: 22:42: Time Zone: IST -5:30

> Long: 77 E 26; Lat: 8 N 10; Ayanamsa used: 22:39:38

>

> Girl's Data: 02nd February, 1979; TOB: 16:15: Time Zone: EET -2.00

> Long: 28 E 38; Lat: 53 N 17; Ayanamsa used: 22:40:33

>

> About Attraction: If we overlap the charts -

>

> In Rasi Chart:

> 1. Saturn of Male conjojns Saturn of Female.

> 2. Rahu of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 3. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 4. Rahu of female aspects Venus.

>

> In the Navamsa Chart

> 1. Saturn of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> 2. Rahu of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> 3. Mars of Male aspects Venus of Female.

> 4. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 5. Moon of Female and Sun of Male aspect each other (For friendship)

>

> So relationship between Venus with Rahu in the male's chart,Mars

with Rahu in both the charts and Mars with Saturn in female chart is

established.

> Relationship of Mars and Venus is in femlae chart only.

> Sun annd Moon relationship is also only in female chart.

>

> Timing of friendship:

>

> 5th house is the house of friendship. In both the charts Jupiter has

the highest points in the WS for 5th house.

>

> The couple informed that they got into friendship around middle of 2003.

>

> Girl was having Antara of Ketu from 14.05.2003 to 13.07.2004

> Boy was having Antara of Venus from 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004

>

> Ketu in Girl's chart should give effects of Jupiter as he is in his

constellation or Saturn in whose house he is placed.

> In boy's chart there is only aspect of Jupiter from house 'C' on Venus.

>

> My little knowledge is unable to corelate this. Can any one explain

the samee ?

>

> Other Points:

>

> Actual marriage took place on 21st August 2004 in Foreign country -

Belarus.

>

> Girl was running Antara of Sun : 13.07.2004 to 31.10.2004. Sun is

having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

> Boy was running Antara of Venus: 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004. Venus is

having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

>

> In Girl's chart Sun is with LOE-Mercury. Being Samdharmi to Mercury

who is having more than 12 points in WS of 7th house might have

brought about the marriage.

>

> In Boy's chart Sun is with venus in the 5th house. Hence being

Samdharmi to Sun who has 16 points in the WS of 7th house he might

have triggered the marriage.

>

> Other than this I am unable to find out any reason for the timing of

marriage.

>

> What other points are to be seen?

>

> If we see the PDF the combination of planets -denoting the

significance- are Moon and Mercury during 3rd Aug to 16th Aug and Sun

and Ketu during 17th Aug. to 30th Aug.

>

> The distance between Venus and Sun is less than 43 degree (around 36

degree). But Venus is in Mula Nakshatra. So it gets spoiled. (or is it

to be taken only when the distance is more than 43 degree). However

there is no aspect of either Jupiter or Saturn on Venus.

> And also Jupiter is in Libra Navamsa - What would be the outcome of

this ?

>

> Also there is an aspect of 6th lord (Saturn in boy's chart and

Jupiter in girl's chart) aspecting the 7th house.

>

> The Ascendant of the boy has 33 points and the Girl has only 22

points SAV.

>

> The combinations of Lord of Lagna, Moon and Sun plus the lord of 7th

from them - for the girl it is more than 50 and the boy it is only 40.

>

> Does all these indicate any trouble in the married life ?

>

> Message for Mr. Ash:

>

> I am still going through the Archives. Oh! What a store of

information it has. In the meantime, I got this horoscope for

analysis. The doubts that I got I have mentioned above. Kindly clarify.

>

> Bala

>

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

>

May 4, 2008

Yes,

one more thing to add,

Sa

of boy and Ra of boy both aspect Mars of Girl.

So the attraction is stong.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of Ash's Corner

Sunday May 4, 2008 11:15 AM

To:

RE:

Re: Love marriage-attraction

Dear Bala,

I went though both charts, however, I would to ask if the girl’s

chart is correct?

Yes, one thing to note in both cases is that marriage is happening

in lowest points. In the girl’s chart with the current data, all our laws

for multiple marriages or unhappy marriage are applicable. Venus to Sun

is 46, Ve in moola, Sun in

7th, Ju in libra, also Ju is 6th

lord and its aspecting 7th house and 2nd lord too etc

etc. Here also to note that lagna and 7th are in 5:9 in both rasi. In both cases, Mars has become very powerful.

In the boy’s chart there is delay due to Sa and moderated and there

is 1 zero due to Sa too. So say delay is 29 and moderated to 25 and that

time Ve antra was running. Ve

is SD to Me who is in House D with 6 bindus so eager, thereby making Venus

eager to deliver, however Venus itself is weak. So here marriage is in

low power planet.

Now, as per our laws, if marriage happens in low points then it

breaks in high power planet. Now, also one more point to note that these

laws are based on Indian society so they have to be translated in accordance.

Now, due to attraction, the couple might have come close together,

and in Boys chart its in Ve antra, and Ve is LoE for 5th and placed in House E for 12th

with more points thereby making it eager.

Also in many cases when the couple do not have children then also

marriage happen in low points.

Note: In the girls chart, DBCE points are rising from Sun, Ju is in

libra, Ju is aspecting 2nd and 7th

lord/ house, Ve is moola,

and there is delay due to Saturn and Sun is in 7th house.

These things shows multiple marriages or relations.

What is their status currently Bala, regarding happiness in

marriage or children?

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of Balasubramanian

Sunday May 4, 2008 10:48 AM

Re: Love marriage-attraction

Dear

Anup,

I note your points. Position of Lagna as indicated by you is correct.

The native (male) informed me that his grandfather himself is an

Astrologer and that the birth time can never be wrong.

All other points mentioned by you are noted by me. As you said let me

wait till other members respond.

Bala

,

" Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Bala and List,

>

> You have attempted this in nice way applying KAS

> and its rules.I wld like to write few words in this context,

> while going thru your mail.

>

> I am getting Asc 26 Le 28 for male chart.

> There is Saturn delay moderated/nullify by Jup aspect on

> Sat in navamsa.

> Venus the natural Karka and Mer,the FK both are

> debiliated in Navamsa.

> 1st house have 33pts as compared to 20 in 7th house.

>

> Marriage happened in Aug2004 in Venus antra.

> Venus aspects house C.

> So how marriage happened in Venus antra?

> Sun being SD can not step in for Venus here.

>

> Venus is spoiled a little being within 4deg to Sun

> and with Sun..

> In venus antra,involvement in a relationship

> cant be denied.Sat and Mars become strong taking points

> from Mer and Moon respectively.

>

> While taking Virgo lagna,Sun and Venus can give marriage.

> I may be wrong but members can correct me.

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

> Balasubramanian <yenbeeyes wrote:

> Dear Ash and list members,

>

> I was going through the post 'attraction' in the forum. I give below

2 charts which ended up in marriage. Boy is a Hindu and the girl is a

Russian. I would request Ash and other members to see whether my

reasoning is correct.

>

> Boy's Data: 04th January, 1978; TOB: 22:42: Time Zone: IST -5:30

> Long: 77 E 26; Lat: 8 N 10; Ayanamsa used: 22:39:38

>

> Girl's Data: 02nd February, 1979; TOB: 16:15: Time Zone: EET -2.00

> Long: 28 E 38; Lat: 53 N 17; Ayanamsa used: 22:40:33

>

> About Attraction: If we overlap the charts -

>

> In Rasi Chart:

> 1. Saturn of Male conjojns Saturn of Female.

> 2. Rahu of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 3. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 4. Rahu of female aspects Venus.

>

> In the Navamsa Chart

> 1. Saturn of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> 2. Rahu of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> 3. Mars of Male aspects Venus of Female.

> 4. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 5. Moon of Female and Sun of Male aspect each other (For friendship)

>

> So relationship between Venus with Rahu in the male's chart,Mars

with Rahu in both the charts and Mars with Saturn in female chart is

established.

> Relationship of Mars and Venus is in femlae chart only.

> Sun annd Moon relationship is also only in female chart.

>

> Timing of friendship:

>

> 5th house is the house of friendship. In both the charts Jupiter has

the highest points in the WS for 5th house.

>

> The couple informed that they got into friendship around middle of 2003.

>

> Girl was having Antara of Ketu from 14.05.2003 to 13.07.2004

> Boy was having Antara of Venus from 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004

>

> Ketu in Girl's chart should give effects of Jupiter as he is in his

constellation or Saturn in whose house he is placed.

> In boy's chart there is only aspect of Jupiter from house 'C' on Venus.

>

> My little knowledge is unable to corelate this. Can any one explain

the samee ?

>

> Other Points:

>

> Actual marriage took place on 21st August 2004 in Foreign country -

Belarus.

>

> Girl was running Antara of Sun : 13.07.2004 to 31.10.2004. Sun is

having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

> Boy was running Antara of Venus: 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004. Venus is

having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

>

> In Girl's chart Sun is with LOE-Mercury. Being Samdharmi to Mercury

who is having more than 12 points in WS of 7th house might have

brought about the marriage.

>

> In Boy's chart Sun is with venus in the 5th house. Hence being

Samdharmi to Sun who has 16 points in the WS of 7th house he might

have triggered the marriage.

>

> Other than this I am unable to find out any reason for the timing of

marriage.

>

> What other points are to be seen?

>

> If we see the PDF the combination of planets -denoting the

significance- are Moon and Mercury during 3rd Aug to 16th Aug and Sun

and Ketu during 17th Aug. to 30th Aug.

>

> The distance between Venus and Sun is less than 43 degree (around 36

degree). But Venus is in Mula Nakshatra. So it gets spoiled. (or is it

to be taken only when the distance is more than 43 degree). However

there is no aspect of either Jupiter or Saturn on Venus.

> And also Jupiter is in Libra Navamsa - What would be the outcome of

this ?

>

> Also there is an aspect of 6th lord (Saturn in boy's chart and

Jupiter in girl's chart) aspecting the 7th house.

>

> The Ascendant of the boy has 33 points and the Girl has only 22

points SAV.

>

> The combinations of Lord of Lagna, Moon and Sun plus the lord of 7th

from them - for the girl it is more than 50 and the boy it is only 40.

>

> Does all these indicate any trouble in the married life ?

>

> Message for Mr. Ash:

>

> I am still going through the Archives. Oh! What a store of

information it has. In the meantime, I got this horoscope for

analysis. The doubts that I got I have mentioned above. Kindly clarify.

>

> Bala

>

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

>

May 4, 2008

Dear Ash, I am getting Asc26 Le 28 Venus is opposing Mer in navamsa. So Venus cant be SD to Mer. Plz correct me. Regards Anup "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Bala, I went though both charts, however, I would to ask if the girl’s chart is correct? Yes, one thing to note in both cases is that marriage is happening in lowest points. In the girl’s chart with the current data, all our laws for multiple marriages or unhappy marriage are applicable. Venus to Sun is 46, Ve in moola, Sun in 7th, Ju in libra, also Ju is 6th lord and

its aspecting 7th house and 2nd lord too etc etc. Here also to note that lagna and 7th are in 5:9 in both rasi. In both cases, Mars has become very powerful. In the boy’s chart there is delay due to Sa and moderated and there is 1 zero due to Sa too. So say delay is 29 and moderated to 25 and that time Ve antra was running. Ve is SD to Me who is in House D with 6 bindus so eager, thereby making Venus eager to deliver, however Venus itself is weak. So here marriage is in low power planet. Now, as per our laws, if marriage happens in low points then it breaks in high power planet. Now, also one more point to note that these laws are based on Indian society so they have to be translated in accordance. Now, due to attraction, the couple might have come close together, and in Boys chart its in Ve antra, and Ve is LoE for 5th and placed in House E for 12th with more points thereby making it

eager. Also in many cases when the couple do not have children then also marriage happen in low points. Note: In the girls chart, DBCE points are rising from Sun, Ju is in libra, Ju is aspecting 2nd and 7th lord/ house, Ve is moola, and there is

delay due to Saturn and Sun is in 7th house. These things shows multiple marriages or relations. What is their status currently Bala, regarding happiness in marriage or children? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of BalasubramanianSunday May 4, 2008 10:48 AM Subject:

Re: Love marriage-attraction Dear Anup,I note your points. Position of Lagna as indicated by you is correct.The native (male) informed me that his grandfather himself is anAstrologer and that the birth time can never be wrong.All other points mentioned by you are noted by me. As you said let mewait till other members respond.Bala , "Anup. M"<dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Bala and List,> > You have attempted this in nice way applying KAS> and its rules.I wld

like to write few words in this context,> while going thru your mail. > > I am getting Asc 26 Le 28 for male chart.> There is Saturn delay moderated/nullify by Jup aspect on> Sat in navamsa.> Venus the natural Karka and Mer,the FK both are> debiliated in Navamsa. > 1st house have 33pts as compared to 20 in 7th house.> > Marriage happened in Aug2004 in Venus antra.> Venus aspects house C.> So how marriage happened in Venus antra?> Sun being SD can not step in for Venus here.> > Venus is spoiled a little being within 4deg to Sun> and with Sun..> In venus antra,involvement in a relationship> cant be denied.Sat and Mars become strong taking points> from Mer and Moon respectively. > > While taking Virgo lagna,Sun and Venus can give marriage.> I may be wrong but members can correct me.> > Regards>

Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Balasubramanian <yenbeeyes wrote:> Dear Ash and list members,> > I was going through the post 'attraction' in the forum. I give below2 charts which ended up in marriage. Boy is a Hindu and the girl is aRussian. I would request Ash and other members to see whether myreasoning is correct.> > Boy's Data: 04th January, 1978; TOB: 22:42: Time Zone: IST -5:30> Long: 77 E 26; Lat: 8 N 10; Ayanamsa used: 22:39:38> > Girl's Data: 02nd February, 1979; TOB: 16:15: Time Zone: EET -2.00> Long: 28 E 38; Lat: 53 N 17; Ayanamsa used: 22:40:33> > About Attraction: If we overlap the charts -> > In Rasi Chart:> 1. Saturn of Male conjojns Saturn of Female.> 2.

Rahu of Male aspects Mars of Female.> 3. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.> 4. Rahu of female aspects Venus.> > In the Navamsa Chart> 1. Saturn of Male conjoins Mars of Female.> 2. Rahu of Male conjoins Mars of Female.> 3. Mars of Male aspects Venus of Female.> 4. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.> 5. Moon of Female and Sun of Male aspect each other (For friendship)> > So relationship between Venus with Rahu in the male's chart,Marswith Rahu in both the charts and Mars with Saturn in female chart isestablished.> Relationship of Mars and Venus is in femlae chart only.> Sun annd Moon relationship is also only in female chart.> > Timing of friendship:> > 5th house is the house of friendship. In both the charts Jupiter hasthe highest points in the WS for 5th house.> > The couple informed that they got into friendship around

middle of 2003.> > Girl was having Antara of Ketu from 14.05.2003 to 13.07.2004> Boy was having Antara of Venus from 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004> > Ketu in Girl's chart should give effects of Jupiter as he is in hisconstellation or Saturn in whose house he is placed.> In boy's chart there is only aspect of Jupiter from house 'C' on Venus.> > My little knowledge is unable to corelate this. Can any one explainthe samee ?> > Other Points:> > Actual marriage took place on 21st August 2004 in Foreign country -Belarus.> > Girl was running Antara of Sun : 13.07.2004 to 31.10.2004. Sun ishaving the lowest points in WS for 7th house.> Boy was running Antara of Venus: 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004. Venus ishaving the lowest points in WS for 7th house.> > In Girl's chart Sun is with LOE-Mercury. Being Samdharmi to Mercurywho is having more than 12

points in WS of 7th house might havebrought about the marriage.> > In Boy's chart Sun is with venus in the 5th house. Hence beingSamdharmi to Sun who has 16 points in the WS of 7th house he mighthave triggered the marriage.> > Other than this I am unable to find out any reason for the timing ofmarriage.> > What other points are to be seen?> > If we see the PDF the combination of planets -denoting thesignificance- are Moon and Mercury during 3rd Aug to 16th Aug and Sunand Ketu during 17th Aug. to 30th Aug.> > The distance between Venus and Sun is less than 43 degree (around 36degree). But Venus is in Mula Nakshatra. So it gets spoiled. (or is itto be taken only when the distance is more than 43 degree). Howeverthere is no aspect of either Jupiter or Saturn on Venus. > And also Jupiter is in Libra Navamsa - What would be the outcome ofthis ?> >

Also there is an aspect of 6th lord (Saturn in boy's chart andJupiter in girl's chart) aspecting the 7th house.> > The Ascendant of the boy has 33 points and the Girl has only 22points SAV. > > The combinations of Lord of Lagna, Moon and Sun plus the lord of 7thfrom them - for the girl it is more than 50 and the boy it is only 40.> > Does all these indicate any trouble in the married life ?> > Message for Mr. Ash:> > I am still going through the Archives. Oh! What a store ofinformation it has. In the meantime, I got this horoscope foranalysis. The doubts that I got I have mentioned above. Kindly clarify.> > > Bala> > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.>

Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

May 4, 2008

Dear

Anup,

Ve is in navamsa of Virgo thereby making it SD to Me.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of Anup. M

Sunday May 4, 2008 12:55 PM

RE:

Re: Love marriage-attraction

Dear Ash,

I am getting Asc26 Le 28

Venus is opposing Mer in

navamsa.

So Venus cant be SD to Mer.

Plz correct me.

Regards

Anup

" Ash's

Corner " <kas wrote:

Dear Bala,

I went though both charts, however, I would to ask if the girl’s

chart is correct?

Yes, one thing to note in both cases is that marriage is happening

in lowest points. In the girl’s chart with the current data, all our laws

for multiple marriages or unhappy marriage are applicable. Venus to Sun

is 46, Ve in moola, Sun in

7th, Ju in libra, also Ju is 6th

lord and its aspecting 7th house and 2nd lord too etc

etc. Here also to note that lagna and 7th are in 5:9 in both rasi. In both cases, Mars has become very powerful.

In the boy’s chart there is delay due to Sa and moderated and there

is 1 zero due to Sa too. So say delay is 29 and moderated to 25 and that

time Ve antra was running. Ve

is SD to Me who is in House D with 6 bindus so eager, thereby making Venus

eager to deliver, however Venus itself is weak. So here marriage is in

low power planet.

Now, as per our laws, if marriage happens in low points then it

breaks in high power planet. Now, also one more point to note that these

laws are based on Indian society so they have to be translated in accordance.

Now, due to attraction, the couple might have come close together,

and in Boys chart its in Ve antra, and Ve is LoE for 5th and placed in House E for 12th

with more points thereby making it eager.

Also in many cases when the couple do not have children then also

marriage happen in low points.

Note: In the girls chart, DBCE points are rising from Sun, Ju is in

libra, Ju is aspecting 2nd and 7th

lord/ house, Ve is moola,

and there is delay due to Saturn and Sun is in 7th house.

These things shows multiple marriages or relations.

What is their status currently Bala, regarding happiness in

marriage or children?

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of Balasubramanian

Sunday May 4, 2008 10:48 AM

Re: Love marriage-attraction

Dear Anup,

I note your points. Position of Lagna as indicated by you is correct.

The native (male) informed me that his grandfather himself is an

Astrologer and that the birth time can never be wrong.

All other points mentioned by you are noted by me. As you said let me

wait till other members respond.

Bala

,

" Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Bala and List,

>

> You have attempted this in nice way applying KAS

> and its rules.I wld like to write few words in this context,

> while going thru your mail.

>

> I am getting Asc 26 Le 28 for male chart.

> There is Saturn delay moderated/nullify by Jup aspect on

> Sat in navamsa.

> Venus the natural Karka and Mer,the FK both are

> debiliated in Navamsa.

> 1st house have 33pts as compared to 20 in 7th house.

>

> Marriage happened in Aug2004 in Venus antra.

> Venus aspects house C.

> So how marriage happened in Venus antra?

> Sun being SD can not step in for Venus here.

>

> Venus is spoiled a little being within 4deg to Sun

> and with Sun..

> In venus antra,involvement in a relationship

> cant be denied.Sat and Mars become strong taking points

> from Mer and Moon respectively.

>

> While taking Virgo lagna,Sun and Venus can give marriage.

> I may be wrong but members can correct me.

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

> Balasubramanian <yenbeeyes wrote:

> Dear Ash and list members,

>

> I was going through the post 'attraction' in the forum. I give below

2 charts which ended up in marriage. Boy is a Hindu and the girl is a

Russian. I would request Ash and other members to see whether my

reasoning is correct.

>

> Boy's Data: 04th January, 1978; TOB: 22:42: Time Zone: IST -5:30

> Long: 77 E 26; Lat: 8 N 10; Ayanamsa used: 22:39:38

>

> Girl's Data: 02nd February, 1979; TOB: 16:15: Time Zone: EET -2.00

> Long: 28 E 38; Lat: 53 N 17; Ayanamsa used: 22:40:33

>

> About Attraction: If we overlap the charts -

>

> In Rasi Chart:

> 1. Saturn of Male conjojns Saturn of Female.

> 2. Rahu of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 3. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 4. Rahu of female aspects Venus.

>

> In the Navamsa Chart

> 1. Saturn of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> 2. Rahu of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> 3. Mars of Male aspects Venus of Female.

> 4. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 5. Moon of Female and Sun of Male aspect each other (For friendship)

>

> So relationship between Venus with Rahu in the male's chart,Mars

with Rahu in both the charts and Mars with Saturn in female chart is

established.

> Relationship of Mars and Venus is in femlae chart only.

> Sun annd Moon relationship is also only in female chart.

>

> Timing of friendship:

>

> 5th house is the house of friendship. In both the charts Jupiter has

the highest points in the WS for 5th house.

>

> The couple informed that they got into friendship around middle of 2003.

>

> Girl was having Antara of Ketu from 14.05.2003 to 13.07.2004

> Boy was having Antara of Venus from 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004

>

> Ketu in Girl's chart should give effects of Jupiter as he is in his

constellation or Saturn in whose house he is placed.

> In boy's chart there is only aspect of Jupiter from house 'C' on Venus.

>

> My little knowledge is unable to corelate this. Can any one explain

the samee ?

>

> Other Points:

>

> Actual marriage took place on 21st August 2004 in Foreign country -

Belarus.

>

> Girl was running Antara of Sun : 13.07.2004 to 31.10.2004. Sun is

having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

> Boy was running Antara of Venus: 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004. Venus is

having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

>

> In Girl's chart Sun is with LOE-Mercury. Being Samdharmi to Mercury

who is having more than 12 points in WS of 7th house might have

brought about the marriage.

>

> In Boy's chart Sun is with venus in the 5th house. Hence being

Samdharmi to Sun who has 16 points in the WS of 7th house he might

have triggered the marriage.

>

> Other than this I am unable to find out any reason for the timing of

marriage.

>

> What other points are to be seen?

>

> If we see the PDF the combination of planets -denoting the

significance- are Moon and Mercury during 3rd Aug to 16th Aug and Sun

and Ketu during 17th Aug. to 30th Aug.

>

> The distance between Venus and Sun is less than 43 degree (around 36

degree). But Venus is in Mula Nakshatra. So it gets spoiled. (or is it

to be taken only when the distance is more than 43 degree). However

there is no aspect of either Jupiter or Saturn on Venus.

> And also Jupiter is in Libra Navamsa - What would be the outcome of

this ?

>

> Also there is an aspect of 6th lord (Saturn in boy's chart and

Jupiter in girl's chart) aspecting the 7th house.

>

> The Ascendant of the boy has 33 points and the Girl has only 22

points SAV.

>

> The combinations of Lord of Lagna, Moon and Sun plus the lord of 7th

from them - for the girl it is more than 50 and the boy it is only 40.

>

> Does all these indicate any trouble in the married life ?

>

> Message for Mr. Ash:

>

> I am still going through the Archives. Oh! What a store of

information it has. In the meantime, I got this horoscope for

analysis. The doubts that I got I have mentioned above. Kindly clarify.

>

> Bala

>

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

>

Be a better friend,

newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try

it now.

May 4, 2008

Dear Ash, Here Venus can step in for Mer and not Mer for Venus if i am not wrong.So in Venus antra,Mer can not stepin as per archives. Also Venus is opposing mercury in navamsa. Plz guide us. Regards Anup "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Anup, Ve is in navamsa of Virgo thereby making it SD to Me. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. MSunday

May 4, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: RE: Re: Love marriage-attraction Dear Ash, I am getting Asc26 Le 28 Venus is opposing Mer in navamsa. So Venus cant be SD to Mer. Plz correct me. Regards Anup "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kas wrote: Dear Bala, I went though both charts, however, I would to ask if the

girl’s chart is correct? Yes, one thing to note in both cases is that marriage is happening in lowest points. In the girl’s chart with the current data, all our laws for multiple marriages or unhappy marriage are applicable. Venus to Sun is 46, Ve in moola, Sun in 7th, Ju in libra, also Ju is 6th lord and its aspecting 7th house and 2nd lord too etc etc. Here also to note that lagna and 7th are in 5:9 in both rasi. In both cases, Mars has become very powerful. In the boy’s chart there is delay

due to Sa and moderated and there is 1 zero due to Sa too. So say delay is 29 and moderated to 25 and that time Ve antra was running. Ve is SD to Me who is in House D with 6 bindus so eager, thereby making Venus eager to deliver, however Venus itself is weak. So here marriage is in low power planet. Now, as per our laws, if marriage happens in low points then it breaks in high power planet. Now, also one more point to note that these laws are based on Indian society so they have to be translated in accordance. Now, due to attraction, the couple might have come close together, and in Boys chart its

in Ve antra, and Ve is LoE for 5th and placed in House E for 12th with more points thereby making it eager. Also in many cases when the couple do not have children then also marriage happen in low points. Note: In the girls chart, DBCE points are rising from Sun, Ju is in libra, Ju is aspecting 2nd and 7th lord/ house, Ve is moola, and there is delay due to Saturn and Sun is in 7th house. These things shows multiple marriages or relations. What is their status currently Bala, regarding happiness in marriage or children? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of BalasubramanianSunday May 4, 2008 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Love marriage-attraction Dear Anup,I note your points. Position of Lagna as indicated by you is correct.The native (male) informed me that his grandfather himself is anAstrologer and that the birth

time can never be wrong.All other points mentioned by you are noted by me. As you said let mewait till other members respond.Bala , "Anup. M"<dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Bala and List,> > You have attempted this in nice way applying KAS> and its rules.I wld like to write few words in this context,> while going thru your mail. > > I am getting Asc 26 Le 28 for male chart.> There is Saturn delay moderated/nullify by Jup aspect on> Sat in navamsa.> Venus the natural Karka and Mer,the FK both are> debiliated in Navamsa. > 1st house have 33pts as compared to 20 in 7th house.> > Marriage happened in Aug2004 in Venus antra.> Venus aspects house C.> So how marriage happened in Venus antra?> Sun being SD

can not step in for Venus here.> > Venus is spoiled a little being within 4deg to Sun> and with Sun..> In venus antra,involvement in a relationship> cant be denied.Sat and Mars become strong taking points> from Mer and Moon respectively. > > While taking Virgo lagna,Sun and Venus can give marriage.> I may be wrong but members can correct me.> > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Balasubramanian <yenbeeyes wrote:> Dear Ash and list members,> > I was going through the post 'attraction' in the forum. I give below2 charts which ended up in marriage. Boy is a Hindu and the girl is aRussian. I would request Ash and other members to see whether myreasoning is correct.>

> Boy's Data: 04th January, 1978; TOB: 22:42: Time Zone: IST -5:30> Long: 77 E 26; Lat: 8 N 10; Ayanamsa used: 22:39:38> > Girl's Data: 02nd February, 1979; TOB: 16:15: Time Zone: EET -2.00> Long: 28 E 38; Lat: 53 N 17; Ayanamsa used: 22:40:33> > About Attraction: If we overlap the charts -> > In Rasi Chart:> 1. Saturn of Male conjojns Saturn of Female.> 2. Rahu of Male aspects Mars of Female.> 3. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.> 4. Rahu of female aspects Venus.> > In the Navamsa Chart> 1. Saturn of Male conjoins Mars of Female.> 2. Rahu of Male conjoins Mars of Female.> 3. Mars of Male aspects Venus of Female.> 4. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.> 5. Moon of Female and Sun of Male aspect each other (For friendship)> > So relationship between Venus with Rahu in the male's chart,Marswith Rahu in both the

charts and Mars with Saturn in female chart isestablished.> Relationship of Mars and Venus is in femlae chart only.> Sun annd Moon relationship is also only in female chart.> > Timing of friendship:> > 5th house is the house of friendship. In both the charts Jupiter hasthe highest points in the WS for 5th house.> > The couple informed that they got into friendship around middle of 2003.> > Girl was having Antara of Ketu from 14.05.2003 to 13.07.2004> Boy was having Antara of Venus from 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004> > Ketu in Girl's chart should give effects of Jupiter as he is in hisconstellation or Saturn in whose house he is placed.> In boy's chart there is only aspect of Jupiter from house 'C' on Venus.> > My little knowledge is unable to corelate this. Can any one explainthe samee ?> > Other Points:> > Actual marriage

took place on 21st August 2004 in Foreign country -Belarus.> > Girl was running Antara of Sun : 13.07.2004 to 31.10.2004. Sun ishaving the lowest points in WS for 7th house.> Boy was running Antara of Venus: 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004. Venus ishaving the lowest points in WS for 7th house.> > In Girl's chart Sun is with LOE-Mercury. Being Samdharmi to Mercurywho is having more than 12 points in WS of 7th house might havebrought about the marriage.> > In Boy's chart Sun is with venus in the 5th house. Hence beingSamdharmi to Sun who has 16 points in the WS of 7th house he mighthave triggered the marriage.> > Other than this I am unable to find out any reason for the timing ofmarriage.> > What other points are to be seen?> > If we see the PDF the combination of planets -denoting thesignificance- are Moon and Mercury during 3rd Aug to 16th Aug and

Sunand Ketu during 17th Aug. to 30th Aug.> > The distance between Venus and Sun is less than 43 degree (around 36degree). But Venus is in Mula Nakshatra. So it gets spoiled. (or is itto be taken only when the distance is more than 43 degree). Howeverthere is no aspect of either Jupiter or Saturn on Venus. > And also Jupiter is in Libra Navamsa - What would be the outcome ofthis ?> > Also there is an aspect of 6th lord (Saturn in boy's chart andJupiter in girl's chart) aspecting the 7th house.> > The Ascendant of the boy has 33 points and the Girl has only 22points SAV. > > The combinations of Lord of Lagna, Moon and Sun plus the lord of 7thfrom them - for the girl it is more than 50 and the boy it is only 40.> > Does all these indicate any trouble in the married life ?> > Message for Mr. Ash:> > I am still going through the Archives. Oh!

What a store ofinformation it has. In the meantime, I got this horoscope foranalysis. The doubts that I got I have mentioned above. Kindly clarify.> > > Bala> > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

May 4, 2008

Dear

Anup,

No

Anup, here I was seeing it from different angle. Yes, u are correct when you say that Ve is in navamsa of Me so Ve is

SD to Me , means Ve can step in for Me. Here Mercury is eager and this will make Ve eager as well, but here Ve

itself is malefic for 7th house so as far as timing goes, it becomes

eager to furnish the timing but quality is different, so here, in this case, marriage

in low points means.............

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of Anup. M

Sunday May 4, 2008 1:12 PM

To:

RE:

Re: Love marriage-attraction

Dear Ash,

Here Venus can step in for

Mer and not Mer for Venus

if i am not wrong.So in Venus

antra,Mer can not stepin

as per archives.

Also Venus is opposing

mercury in navamsa.

Plz guide us.

Regards

Anup

" Ash's

Corner " <kas wrote:

Dear Anup,

Ve is in navamsa of Virgo

thereby making it SD to Me.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of Anup. M

Sunday May 4, 2008 12:55 PM

RE:

Re: Love marriage-attraction

Dear Ash,

I am getting Asc26 Le 28

Venus is opposing Mer in

navamsa.

So Venus cant be SD to Mer.

Plz correct me.

Regards

Anup

" Ash's

Corner " <kas wrote:

Dear Bala,

I went though both charts, however, I would to ask if the girl’s

chart is correct?

Yes, one thing to note in both cases is that marriage is happening

in lowest points. In the girl’s chart with the current data, all our laws

for multiple marriages or unhappy marriage are applicable. Venus to Sun

is 46, Ve in moola, Sun in

7th, Ju in libra, also Ju is 6th

lord and its aspecting 7th house and 2nd lord too etc

etc. Here also to note that lagna and 7th are in 5:9 in both rasi. In both cases, Mars has become very powerful.

In the boy’s chart there is delay due to Sa and moderated and there

is 1 zero due to Sa too. So say delay is 29 and moderated to 25 and that

time Ve antra was running. Ve

is SD to Me who is in House D with 6 bindus so eager, thereby making Venus

eager to deliver, however Venus itself is weak. So here marriage is in

low power planet.

Now, as per our laws, if marriage happens in low points then it

breaks in high power planet. Now, also one more point to note that these

laws are based on Indian society so they have to be translated in accordance.

Now, due to attraction, the couple might have come close together,

and in Boys chart its in Ve antra, and Ve is LoE for 5th and placed in House E for 12th

with more points thereby making it eager.

Also in many cases when the couple do not have children then also

marriage happen in low points.

Note: In the girls chart, DBCE points are rising from Sun, Ju is in

libra, Ju is aspecting 2nd and 7th

lord/ house, Ve is moola,

and there is delay due to Saturn and Sun is in 7th house.

These things shows multiple marriages or relations.

What is their status currently Bala, regarding happiness in

marriage or children?

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of Balasubramanian

Sunday May 4, 2008 10:48 AM

Re: Love marriage-attraction

Dear Anup,

I note your points. Position of Lagna as indicated by you is correct.

The native (male) informed me that his grandfather himself is an

Astrologer and that the birth time can never be wrong.

All other points mentioned by you are noted by me. As you said let me

wait till other members respond.

Bala

,

" Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Bala and List,

>

> You have attempted this in nice way applying KAS

> and its rules.I wld like to write few words in this context,

> while going thru your mail.

>

> I am getting Asc 26 Le 28 for male chart.

> There is Saturn delay moderated/nullify by Jup aspect on

> Sat in navamsa.

> Venus the natural Karka and Mer,the FK both are

> debiliated in Navamsa.

> 1st house have 33pts as compared to 20 in 7th house.

>

> Marriage happened in Aug2004 in Venus antra.

> Venus aspects house C.

> So how marriage happened in Venus antra?

> Sun being SD can not step in for Venus here.

>

> Venus is spoiled a little being within 4deg to Sun

> and with Sun..

> In venus antra,involvement in a relationship

> cant be denied.Sat and Mars become strong taking points

> from Mer and Moon respectively.

>

> While taking Virgo lagna,Sun and Venus can give marriage.

> I may be wrong but members can correct me.

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

> Balasubramanian <yenbeeyes wrote:

> Dear Ash and list members,

>

> I was going through the post 'attraction' in the forum. I give below

2 charts which ended up in marriage. Boy is a Hindu and the girl is a

Russian. I would request Ash and other members to see whether my

reasoning is correct.

>

> Boy's Data: 04th January, 1978; TOB: 22:42: Time Zone: IST -5:30

> Long: 77 E 26; Lat: 8 N 10; Ayanamsa used: 22:39:38

>

> Girl's Data: 02nd February, 1979; TOB: 16:15: Time Zone: EET -2.00

> Long: 28 E 38; Lat: 53 N 17; Ayanamsa used: 22:40:33

>

> About Attraction: If we overlap the charts -

>

> In Rasi Chart:

> 1. Saturn of Male conjojns Saturn of Female.

> 2. Rahu of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 3. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 4. Rahu of female aspects Venus.

>

> In the Navamsa Chart

> 1. Saturn of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> 2. Rahu of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> 3. Mars of Male aspects Venus of Female.

> 4. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 5. Moon of Female and Sun of Male aspect each other (For friendship)

>

> So relationship between Venus with Rahu in the male's chart,Mars

with Rahu in both the charts and Mars with Saturn in female chart is

established.

> Relationship of Mars and Venus is in femlae chart only.

> Sun annd Moon relationship is also only in female chart.

>

> Timing of friendship:

>

> 5th house is the house of friendship. In both the charts Jupiter has

the highest points in the WS for 5th house.

>

> The couple informed that they got into friendship around middle of 2003.

>

> Girl was having Antara of Ketu from 14.05.2003 to 13.07.2004

> Boy was having Antara of Venus from 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004

>

> Ketu in Girl's chart should give effects of Jupiter as he is in his

constellation or Saturn in whose house he is placed.

> In boy's chart there is only aspect of Jupiter from house 'C' on Venus.

>

> My little knowledge is unable to corelate this. Can any one explain

the samee ?

>

> Other Points:

>

> Actual marriage took place on 21st August 2004 in Foreign country -

Belarus.

>

> Girl was running Antara of Sun : 13.07.2004 to 31.10.2004. Sun is

having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

> Boy was running Antara of Venus: 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004. Venus is

having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

>

> In Girl's chart Sun is with LOE-Mercury. Being Samdharmi to Mercury

who is having more than 12 points in WS of 7th house might have

brought about the marriage.

>

> In Boy's chart Sun is with venus in the 5th house. Hence being

Samdharmi to Sun who has 16 points in the WS of 7th house he might

have triggered the marriage.

>

> Other than this I am unable to find out any reason for the timing of

marriage.

>

> What other points are to be seen?

>

> If we see the PDF the combination of planets -denoting the

significance- are Moon and Mercury during 3rd Aug to 16th Aug and Sun

and Ketu during 17th Aug. to 30th Aug.

>

> The distance between Venus and Sun is less than 43 degree (around 36

degree). But Venus is in Mula Nakshatra. So it gets spoiled. (or is it

to be taken only when the distance is more than 43 degree). However

there is no aspect of either Jupiter or Saturn on Venus.

> And also Jupiter is in Libra Navamsa - What would be the outcome of

this ?

>

> Also there is an aspect of 6th lord (Saturn in boy's chart and

Jupiter in girl's chart) aspecting the 7th house.

>

> The Ascendant of the boy has 33 points and the Girl has only 22

points SAV.

>

> The combinations of Lord of Lagna, Moon and Sun plus the lord of 7th

from them - for the girl it is more than 50 and the boy it is only 40.

>

> Does all these indicate any trouble in the married life ?

>

> Message for Mr. Ash:

>

> I am still going through the Archives. Oh! What a store of

information it has. In the meantime, I got this horoscope for

analysis. The doubts that I got I have mentioned above. Kindly clarify.

>

> Bala

>

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Dear Ash, Admiited that both Venus and Mer have touch of each other,but Ash,what about opposition in navamsa of Venus and Mer asper KAS rules? Are not they sld be treated enemies of each other and can oppose each other for timing of events as well? Its new concept,nobody is participating though,but i wanna learn differently also. Regards Anup "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Anup, No Anup, here I was seeing it from different angle. Yes, u are correct when you say that Ve is in navamsa of Me so Ve is SD to Me , means Ve can step in for Me. Here Mercury is eager and this will make Ve eager as well, but here Ve itself is malefic for 7th house so as

far as timing goes, it becomes eager to furnish the timing but quality is different, so here, in this case, marriage in low points means............. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. MSunday May 4, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: RE: Re: Love marriage-attraction Dear Ash, Here Venus can step in for Mer and not Mer for Venus if i am not wrong.So in Venus antra,Mer can not stepin as per archives. Also Venus is

opposing mercury in navamsa. Plz guide us. Regards Anup "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kas wrote: Dear Anup, Ve is in navamsa of Virgo thereby making it SD to Me. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. MSunday May 4, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: RE: Re: Love marriage-attraction Dear Ash, I am getting Asc26 Le 28 Venus is opposing Mer in navamsa. So Venus cant be SD to Mer. Plz correct me. Regards Anup "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca"

<kas wrote: Dear Bala, I went though both charts, however, I would to ask if the girl’s chart is correct? Yes, one thing to note in both cases is that marriage is happening in lowest points. In the girl’s chart with the current data, all our laws for multiple marriages or unhappy marriage are applicable. Venus to Sun is 46, Ve in moola, Sun in 7th, Ju in libra, also Ju is 6th lord and its aspecting 7th house and 2nd lord too etc etc. Here also to note that lagna and 7th are in 5:9 in both rasi. In both cases, Mars has become very powerful. In the boy’s chart there is delay due to Sa and moderated and there is 1 zero due to Sa too. So say delay is 29 and moderated to 25 and that time Ve antra was running. Ve is SD to Me who is in House D with 6 bindus so eager, thereby making Venus eager to deliver, however Venus itself is weak. So here marriage is in low power planet. Now, as per our laws, if marriage happens in low points then it breaks in high power planet. Now, also one more point to note that these laws are based on Indian society so they have to be translated in accordance. Now, due to attraction, the couple might have come close together, and in Boys chart its in Ve antra, and Ve is LoE for 5th and placed in House E for 12th with more points thereby making it eager. Also in many cases when the couple do not have children

then also marriage happen in low points. Note: In the girls chart, DBCE points are rising from Sun, Ju is in libra, Ju is aspecting 2nd and 7th lord/ house, Ve is moola, and there is delay due to Saturn and Sun is in 7th house. These things shows multiple marriages or relations. What is their status currently Bala, regarding happiness in marriage or children? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of BalasubramanianSent:

Sunday May 4, 2008 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Love marriage-attraction Dear Anup,I note your points. Position of Lagna as indicated by you is correct.The native (male) informed me that his grandfather himself is anAstrologer and that the birth time can never be wrong.All other points mentioned by you are noted by me. As you said let mewait till other members respond.Bala , "Anup. M"<dalh_1

wrote:>> Dear Bala and List,> > You have attempted this in nice way applying KAS> and its rules.I wld like to write few words in this context,> while going thru your mail. > > I am getting Asc 26 Le 28 for male chart.> There is Saturn delay moderated/nullify by Jup aspect on> Sat in navamsa.> Venus the natural Karka and Mer,the FK both are> debiliated in Navamsa. > 1st house have 33pts as compared to 20 in 7th house.> > Marriage happened in Aug2004 in Venus antra.> Venus aspects house C.> So how marriage happened in Venus antra?> Sun being SD can not step in for Venus here.> > Venus is spoiled a little being within 4deg to Sun> and with Sun..> In venus antra,involvement in a relationship> cant be denied.Sat and Mars become strong taking points> from Mer and Moon respectively. > > While taking

Virgo lagna,Sun and Venus can give marriage.> I may be wrong but members can correct me.> > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Balasubramanian <yenbeeyes wrote:> Dear Ash and list members,> > I was going through the post 'attraction' in the forum. I give below2 charts which ended up in marriage. Boy is a Hindu and the girl is aRussian. I would request Ash and other members to see whether myreasoning is correct.> > Boy's Data: 04th January, 1978; TOB: 22:42: Time Zone: IST -5:30> Long: 77 E 26; Lat: 8 N 10; Ayanamsa used: 22:39:38> > Girl's Data: 02nd February, 1979; TOB: 16:15: Time Zone: EET -2.00> Long: 28 E 38; Lat: 53 N 17; Ayanamsa used: 22:40:33> > About

Attraction: If we overlap the charts -> > In Rasi Chart:> 1. Saturn of Male conjojns Saturn of Female.> 2. Rahu of Male aspects Mars of Female.> 3. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.> 4. Rahu of female aspects Venus.> > In the Navamsa Chart> 1. Saturn of Male conjoins Mars of Female.> 2. Rahu of Male conjoins Mars of Female.> 3. Mars of Male aspects Venus of Female.> 4. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.> 5. Moon of Female and Sun of Male aspect each other (For friendship)> > So relationship between Venus with Rahu in the male's chart,Marswith Rahu in both the charts and Mars with Saturn in female chart isestablished.> Relationship of Mars and Venus is in femlae chart only.> Sun annd Moon relationship is also only in female chart.> > Timing of friendship:> > 5th house is the house of friendship. In both the charts

Jupiter hasthe highest points in the WS for 5th house.> > The couple informed that they got into friendship around middle of 2003.> > Girl was having Antara of Ketu from 14.05.2003 to 13.07.2004> Boy was having Antara of Venus from 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004> > Ketu in Girl's chart should give effects of Jupiter as he is in hisconstellation or Saturn in whose house he is placed.> In boy's chart there is only aspect of Jupiter from house 'C' on Venus.> > My little knowledge is unable to corelate this. Can any one explainthe samee ?> > Other Points:> > Actual marriage took place on 21st August 2004 in Foreign country -Belarus.> > Girl was running Antara of Sun : 13.07.2004 to 31.10.2004. Sun ishaving the lowest points in WS for 7th house.> Boy was running Antara of Venus: 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004. Venus ishaving the lowest points in WS

for 7th house.> > In Girl's chart Sun is with LOE-Mercury. Being Samdharmi to Mercurywho is having more than 12 points in WS of 7th house might havebrought about the marriage.> > In Boy's chart Sun is with venus in the 5th house. Hence beingSamdharmi to Sun who has 16 points in the WS of 7th house he mighthave triggered the marriage.> > Other than this I am unable to find out any reason for the timing ofmarriage.> > What other points are to be seen?> > If we see the PDF the combination of planets -denoting thesignificance- are Moon and Mercury during 3rd Aug to 16th Aug and Sunand Ketu during 17th Aug. to 30th Aug.> > The distance between Venus and Sun is less than 43 degree (around 36degree). But Venus is in Mula Nakshatra. So it gets spoiled. (or is itto be taken only when the distance is more than 43 degree). Howeverthere is no aspect of either

Jupiter or Saturn on Venus. > And also Jupiter is in Libra Navamsa - What would be the outcome ofthis ?> > Also there is an aspect of 6th lord (Saturn in boy's chart andJupiter in girl's chart) aspecting the 7th house.> > The Ascendant of the boy has 33 points and the Girl has only 22points SAV. > > The combinations of Lord of Lagna, Moon and Sun plus the lord of 7thfrom them - for the girl it is more than 50 and the boy it is only 40.> > Does all these indicate any trouble in the married life ?> > Message for Mr. Ash:> > I am still going through the Archives. Oh! What a store ofinformation it has. In the meantime, I got this horoscope foranalysis. The doubts that I got I have mentioned above. Kindly clarify.> > > Bala> > > > > > > >

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May 4, 2008

Dear

Anup,

When

there exist a 1:7 between NSD planets i.e. Sa and Ve

and Ma and Mo or Ma and Su then in that case they cease to become NSD.

Now

lets say Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in rasi

or navamsa but Sa is in navamsa of venus and venus is in navamsa of sa then

they will cease to act as NSD but will become FSD. I hope its clear.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of Anup. M

Sunday May 4, 2008 1:32 PM

To:

RE:

Re: Love marriage-attraction

Dear Ash,

Admiited that both Venus and

Mer have touch

of each other,but Ash,what

about opposition in navamsa

of Venus and Mer asper KAS

rules?

Are not they sld be treated

enemies of each other and can oppose

each other for timing of

events as well?

Its new concept,nobody is

participating though,but

i wanna learn differently

also.

Regards

Anup

" Ash's

Corner " <kas wrote:

Dear Anup,

No Anup, here I was seeing it from

different angle. Yes, u are correct when you say that Ve

is in navamsa of Me so Ve is SD to Me , means Ve can step in for Me. Here Mercury is eager and this

will make Ve eager as well, but here Ve itself is malefic for 7th house so as far as

timing goes, it becomes eager to furnish the timing but quality is different,

so here, in this case, marriage in low points means.............

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of Anup. M

Sunday May 4, 2008 1:12 PM

RE:

Re: Love marriage-attraction

Dear Ash,

Here Venus can step in for

Mer and not Mer for Venus

if i am not wrong.So in Venus

antra,Mer can not stepin

as per archives.

Also Venus is opposing

mercury in navamsa.

Plz guide us.

Regards

Anup

" Ash's

Corner " <kas wrote:

Dear Anup,

Ve is in navamsa of Virgo

thereby making it SD to Me.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of Anup. M

Sunday May 4, 2008 12:55 PM

RE:

Re: Love marriage-attraction

Dear Ash,

I am getting Asc26 Le 28

Venus is opposing Mer in

navamsa.

So Venus cant be SD to Mer.

Plz correct me.

Regards

Anup

" Ash's

Corner " <kas wrote:

Dear Bala,

I went though both charts, however, I would to ask if the girl’s

chart is correct?

Yes, one thing to note in both cases is that marriage is happening

in lowest points. In the girl’s chart with the current data, all our laws

for multiple marriages or unhappy marriage are applicable. Venus to Sun

is 46, Ve in moola, Sun in

7th, Ju in libra, also Ju is 6th

lord and its aspecting 7th house and 2nd lord too etc

etc. Here also to note that lagna and 7th are in 5:9 in both rasi. In both cases, Mars has become very powerful.

In the boy’s chart there is delay due to Sa and moderated and there

is 1 zero due to Sa too. So say delay is 29 and moderated to 25 and that

time Ve antra was running. Ve

is SD to Me who is in House D with 6 bindus so eager, thereby making Venus

eager to deliver, however Venus itself is weak. So here marriage is in

low power planet.

Now, as per our laws, if marriage happens in low points then it

breaks in high power planet. Now, also one more point to note that these

laws are based on Indian society so they have to be translated in accordance.

Now, due to attraction, the couple might have come close together,

and in Boys chart its in Ve antra, and Ve is LoE for 5th and placed in House E for 12th

with more points thereby making it eager.

Also in many cases when the couple do not have children then also

marriage happen in low points.

Note: In the girls chart, DBCE points are rising from Sun, Ju is in

libra, Ju is aspecting 2nd and 7th

lord/ house, Ve is moola,

and there is delay due to Saturn and Sun is in 7th house.

These things shows multiple marriages or relations.

What is their status currently Bala, regarding happiness in

marriage or children?

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of Balasubramanian

Sunday May 4, 2008 10:48 AM

Re: Love marriage-attraction

Dear Anup,

I note your points. Position of Lagna as indicated by you is correct.

The native (male) informed me that his grandfather himself is an

Astrologer and that the birth time can never be wrong.

All other points mentioned by you are noted by me. As you said let me

wait till other members respond.

Bala

,

" Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Bala and List,

>

> You have attempted this in nice way applying KAS

> and its rules.I wld like to write few words in this context,

> while going thru your mail.

>

> I am getting Asc 26 Le 28 for male chart.

> There is Saturn delay moderated/nullify by Jup aspect on

> Sat in navamsa.

> Venus the natural Karka and Mer,the FK both are

> debiliated in Navamsa.

> 1st house have 33pts as compared to 20 in 7th house.

>

> Marriage happened in Aug2004 in Venus antra.

> Venus aspects house C.

> So how marriage happened in Venus antra?

> Sun being SD can not step in for Venus here.

>

> Venus is spoiled a little being within 4deg to Sun

> and with Sun..

> In venus antra,involvement in a relationship

> cant be denied.Sat and Mars become strong taking points

> from Mer and Moon respectively.

>

> While taking Virgo lagna,Sun and Venus can give marriage.

> I may be wrong but members can correct me.

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

> Balasubramanian <yenbeeyes wrote:

> Dear Ash and list members,

>

> I was going through the post 'attraction' in the forum. I give below

2 charts which ended up in marriage. Boy is a Hindu and the girl is a

Russian. I would request Ash and other members to see whether my

reasoning is correct.

>

> Boy's Data: 04th January, 1978; TOB: 22:42: Time Zone: IST -5:30

> Long: 77 E 26; Lat: 8 N 10; Ayanamsa used: 22:39:38

>

> Girl's Data: 02nd February, 1979; TOB: 16:15: Time Zone: EET -2.00

> Long: 28 E 38; Lat: 53 N 17; Ayanamsa used: 22:40:33

>

> About Attraction: If we overlap the charts -

>

> In Rasi Chart:

> 1. Saturn of Male conjojns Saturn of Female.

> 2. Rahu of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 3. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 4. Rahu of female aspects Venus.

>

> In the Navamsa Chart

> 1. Saturn of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> 2. Rahu of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> 3. Mars of Male aspects Venus of Female.

> 4. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> 5. Moon of Female and Sun of Male aspect each other (For friendship)

>

> So relationship between Venus with Rahu in the male's chart,Mars

with Rahu in both the charts and Mars with Saturn in female chart is

established.

> Relationship of Mars and Venus is in femlae chart only.

> Sun annd Moon relationship is also only in female chart.

>

> Timing of friendship:

>

> 5th house is the house of friendship. In both the charts Jupiter has

the highest points in the WS for 5th house.

>

> The couple informed that they got into friendship around middle of 2003.

>

> Girl was having Antara of Ketu from 14.05.2003 to 13.07.2004

> Boy was having Antara of Venus from 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004

>

> Ketu in Girl's chart should give effects of Jupiter as he is in his

constellation or Saturn in whose house he is placed.

> In boy's chart there is only aspect of Jupiter from house 'C' on Venus.

>

> My little knowledge is unable to corelate this. Can any one explain

the samee ?

>

> Other Points:

>

> Actual marriage took place on 21st August 2004 in Foreign country -

Belarus.

>

> Girl was running Antara of Sun : 13.07.2004 to 31.10.2004. Sun is

having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

> Boy was running Antara of Venus: 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004. Venus is

having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

>

> In Girl's chart Sun is with LOE-Mercury. Being Samdharmi to Mercury

who is having more than 12 points in WS of 7th house might have

brought about the marriage.

>

> In Boy's chart Sun is with venus in the 5th house. Hence being

Samdharmi to Sun who has 16 points in the WS of 7th house he might

have triggered the marriage.

>

> Other than this I am unable to find out any reason for the timing of

marriage.

>

> What other points are to be seen?

>

> If we see the PDF the combination of planets -denoting the

significance- are Moon and Mercury during 3rd Aug to 16th Aug and Sun

and Ketu during 17th Aug. to 30th Aug.

>

> The distance between Venus and Sun is less than 43 degree (around 36

degree). But Venus is in Mula Nakshatra. So it gets spoiled. (or is it

to be taken only when the distance is more than 43 degree). However

there is no aspect of either Jupiter or Saturn on Venus.

> And also Jupiter is in Libra Navamsa - What would be the outcome of

this ?

>

> Also there is an aspect of 6th lord (Saturn in boy's chart and

Jupiter in girl's chart) aspecting the 7th house.

>

> The Ascendant of the boy has 33 points and the Girl has only 22

points SAV.

>

> The combinations of Lord of Lagna, Moon and Sun plus the lord of 7th

from them - for the girl it is more than 50 and the boy it is only 40.

>

> Does all these indicate any trouble in the married life ?

>

> Message for Mr. Ash:

>

> I am still going through the Archives. Oh! What a store of

information it has. In the meantime, I got this horoscope for

analysis. The doubts that I got I have mentioned above. Kindly clarify.

>

> Bala

>

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May 4, 2008

Dear Ash, So this can be applied to normal Samdharmi rule also like in this chart.Likewise being in navamsa of each other they become FSD irrespect of 1:7 opposition in Rasi or Navamsa. Thankyou Ash,I learn smthing new about SD rules. I am saving this for future reference also. Regards Anup "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Anup, When there exist a 1:7 between NSD planets i.e. Sa and Ve and Ma and Mo or Ma and Su then in that case they cease to become NSD. Now lets say Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in rasi or

navamsa but Sa is in navamsa of venus and venus is in navamsa of sa then they will cease to act as NSD but will become FSD. I hope its clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. MSunday May 4, 2008 1:32 PM Subject: RE: Re: Love marriage-attraction Dear Ash, Admiited that both Venus and Mer have touch of each other,but Ash,what about opposition in navamsa of Venus and Mer asper KAS rules? Are not they sld be treated enemies of each other and can oppose each other for timing of events as well? Its new concept,nobody is participating though,but i wanna learn differently also. Regards Anup "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kas wrote: Dear Anup, No Anup, here I was seeing it from different angle. Yes, u are correct when you say that Ve is in navamsa of Me so Ve is SD to Me , means Ve can step in for Me. Here Mercury is eager and this will make Ve eager as well, but here Ve itself is malefic for 7th house so as far as timing goes, it becomes eager to furnish the timing but quality is different, so here, in this case, marriage in low points means............. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. MSent:

Sunday May 4, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: RE: Re: Love marriage-attraction Dear Ash, Here Venus can step in for Mer and not Mer for Venus if i am not wrong.So in Venus antra,Mer can not stepin as per archives. Also Venus is opposing mercury in navamsa. Plz guide us. Regards Anup "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kas

wrote: Dear Anup, Ve is in navamsa of Virgo thereby making it SD to Me. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. MSunday May 4, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: RE:

Re: Love marriage-attraction Dear Ash, I am getting Asc26 Le 28 Venus is opposing Mer in navamsa. So Venus cant be SD to Mer. Plz correct me. Regards Anup "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kas wrote: Dear Bala, I went though both charts, however, I would to ask if the girl’s chart is correct? Yes, one thing to note in both cases is that marriage is happening in lowest points. In the girl’s chart with the current data, all our laws for multiple marriages or unhappy marriage are applicable. Venus to Sun is 46, Ve in moola, Sun in 7th, Ju in libra, also Ju is 6th lord and its aspecting 7th house and 2nd lord too etc etc. Here also to note that lagna and 7th are in 5:9 in both rasi. In both cases, Mars has become very

powerful. In the boy’s chart there is delay due to Sa and moderated and there is 1 zero due to Sa too. So say delay is 29 and moderated to 25 and that time Ve antra was running. Ve is SD to Me who is in House D with 6 bindus so eager, thereby making Venus eager to deliver, however Venus itself is weak. So here marriage is in low power planet. Now, as per our laws, if marriage happens in low points then it breaks in high power planet. Now, also one more point to note that these laws are based on Indian society so they have to be translated in

accordance. Now, due to attraction, the couple might have come close together, and in Boys chart its in Ve antra, and Ve is LoE for 5th and placed in House E for 12th with more points thereby making it eager. Also in many cases when the couple do not have children then also marriage happen in low points. Note: In the girls chart, DBCE points are rising from Sun, Ju is in

libra, Ju is aspecting 2nd and 7th lord/ house, Ve is moola, and there is delay due to Saturn and Sun is in 7th house. These things shows multiple marriages or relations. What is their status currently Bala, regarding happiness in marriage or children? Cheers !!! Ash ->

http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of BalasubramanianSunday May 4, 2008 10:48 AM Subject:

Re: Love marriage-attraction Dear Anup,I note your points. Position of Lagna as indicated by you is correct.The native (male) informed me that his grandfather himself is anAstrologer and that the birth time can never be wrong.All other points mentioned by you are noted by me. As you said let mewait till other members respond.Bala , "Anup. M"<dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Bala and List,> > You have attempted this in nice way applying KAS> and its rules.I wld like to write few words in this context,>

while going thru your mail. > > I am getting Asc 26 Le 28 for male chart.> There is Saturn delay moderated/nullify by Jup aspect on> Sat in navamsa.> Venus the natural Karka and Mer,the FK both are> debiliated in Navamsa. > 1st house have 33pts as compared to 20 in 7th house.> > Marriage happened in Aug2004 in Venus antra.> Venus aspects house C.> So how marriage happened in Venus antra?> Sun being SD can not step in for Venus here.> > Venus is spoiled a little being within 4deg to Sun> and with Sun..> In venus antra,involvement in a relationship> cant be denied.Sat and Mars become strong taking points> from Mer and Moon respectively. > > While taking Virgo lagna,Sun and Venus can give marriage.> I may be wrong but members can correct me.> > Regards> Anup> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Balasubramanian <yenbeeyes wrote:> Dear Ash and list members,> > I was going through the post 'attraction' in the forum. I give below2 charts which ended up in marriage. Boy is a Hindu and the girl is aRussian. I would request Ash and other members to see whether myreasoning is correct.> > Boy's Data: 04th January, 1978; TOB: 22:42: Time Zone: IST -5:30> Long: 77 E 26; Lat: 8 N 10; Ayanamsa used: 22:39:38> > Girl's Data: 02nd February, 1979; TOB: 16:15: Time Zone: EET -2.00> Long: 28 E 38; Lat: 53 N 17; Ayanamsa used: 22:40:33> > About Attraction: If we overlap the charts -> > In Rasi Chart:> 1. Saturn of Male conjojns Saturn of Female.> 2. Rahu of Male aspects Mars of Female.> 3. Mars of Male

aspects Mars of Female.> 4. Rahu of female aspects Venus.> > In the Navamsa Chart> 1. Saturn of Male conjoins Mars of Female.> 2. Rahu of Male conjoins Mars of Female.> 3. Mars of Male aspects Venus of Female.> 4. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.> 5. Moon of Female and Sun of Male aspect each other (For friendship)> > So relationship between Venus with Rahu in the male's chart,Marswith Rahu in both the charts and Mars with Saturn in female chart isestablished.> Relationship of Mars and Venus is in femlae chart only.> Sun annd Moon relationship is also only in female chart.> > Timing of friendship:> > 5th house is the house of friendship. In both the charts Jupiter hasthe highest points in the WS for 5th house.> > The couple informed that they got into friendship around middle of 2003.> > Girl was having Antara of Ketu

from 14.05.2003 to 13.07.2004> Boy was having Antara of Venus from 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004> > Ketu in Girl's chart should give effects of Jupiter as he is in hisconstellation or Saturn in whose house he is placed.> In boy's chart there is only aspect of Jupiter from house 'C' on Venus.> > My little knowledge is unable to corelate this. Can any one explainthe samee ?> > Other Points:> > Actual marriage took place on 21st August 2004 in Foreign country -Belarus.> > Girl was running Antara of Sun : 13.07.2004 to 31.10.2004. Sun ishaving the lowest points in WS for 7th house.> Boy was running Antara of Venus: 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004. Venus ishaving the lowest points in WS for 7th house.> > In Girl's chart Sun is with LOE-Mercury. Being Samdharmi to Mercurywho is having more than 12 points in WS of 7th house might havebrought about the

marriage.> > In Boy's chart Sun is with venus in the 5th house. Hence beingSamdharmi to Sun who has 16 points in the WS of 7th house he mighthave triggered the marriage.> > Other than this I am unable to find out any reason for the timing ofmarriage.> > What other points are to be seen?> > If we see the PDF the combination of planets -denoting thesignificance- are Moon and Mercury during 3rd Aug to 16th Aug and Sunand Ketu during 17th Aug. to 30th Aug.> > The distance between Venus and Sun is less than 43 degree (around 36degree). But Venus is in Mula Nakshatra. So it gets spoiled. (or is itto be taken only when the distance is more than 43 degree). Howeverthere is no aspect of either Jupiter or Saturn on Venus. > And also Jupiter is in Libra Navamsa - What would be the outcome ofthis ?> > Also there is an aspect of 6th lord (Saturn in boy's chart

andJupiter in girl's chart) aspecting the 7th house.> > The Ascendant of the boy has 33 points and the Girl has only 22points SAV. > > The combinations of Lord of Lagna, Moon and Sun plus the lord of 7thfrom them - for the girl it is more than 50 and the boy it is only 40.> > Does all these indicate any trouble in the married life ?> > Message for Mr. Ash:> > I am still going through the Archives. Oh! What a store ofinformation it has. In the meantime, I got this horoscope foranalysis. The doubts that I got I have mentioned above. Kindly clarify.> > > Bala> > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

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Dear Ash,

Thank you very much for bringing out more points on the charts and

also a new thinking(should I say rule) on Samdharmi.

The couple are living happily and they have a girl child also around 3

years old. As of now there seems to be no problem in their married life.

The boy also confided that the girl had a previous relationship but

was not happy with the same and so it broke. How far was that

relationship I could not probe into.

I also got another information that he met this girl around middle of

2003 and proposed to her on 8th January, 2004. What I want to say here

is that everything happened only in Venus Antara of Boy who is having

the lowest points.

Regarding breaking of marriage also I do not see any immediate threat

in both the charts as the higher planets period are all over as far as

the current Main dasa is concerned. The remaining Antaras are with low

points only. So at least till 2013 for the boy and till 2010 for the

girl. What is your opinion?

Regarding the correctness of Girl's chart, the details were given to

me by the boy. She hails from a village called Ossipovichi which is in

Belarus. They are orthodox christians and some of their customs also

meet with our own customs. The girl's father who is no more now has

noted the time of birth as informed by the girl. I have askec for some

more happenings in the girl's life. Once I get the details I will pass

it on to you and also try to co-relate the same.

Thank you once again and also to Anup because of his continous queris

on the Samdharmi position of Venus and Mercury in this chart, I could

learn a new thing.

Thank you again

Bala

, " Ash's Corner "

<kas wrote:

>

> Yes, one more thing to add,

>

> Sa of boy and Ra of boy both aspect Mars of Girl. So the attraction is

> stong.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> On Behalf Of Ash's

> Corner

> Sunday May 4, 2008 11:15 AM

>

> RE: Re: Love marriage-attraction

>

> Dear Bala,

>

> I went though both charts, however, I would to ask if the girl's

chart is

> correct?

>

> Yes, one thing to note in both cases is that marriage is happening

in lowest

> points. In the girl's chart with the current data, all our laws for

> multiple marriages or unhappy marriage are applicable. Venus to Sun

is 46,

> Ve in moola, Sun in 7th, Ju in libra, also Ju is 6th lord and its

aspecting

> 7th house and 2nd lord too etc etc. Here also to note that lagna

and 7th

> are in 5:9 in both rasi. In both cases, Mars has become very powerful.

>

> In the boy's chart there is delay due to Sa and moderated and there is 1

> zero due to Sa too. So say delay is 29 and moderated to 25 and that

time Ve

> antra was running. Ve is SD to Me who is in House D with 6 bindus

so eager,

> thereby making Venus eager to deliver, however Venus itself is weak. So

> here marriage is in low power planet.

>

> Now, as per our laws, if marriage happens in low points then it

breaks in

> high power planet. Now, also one more point to note that these laws are

> based on Indian society so they have to be translated in accordance.

>

> Now, due to attraction, the couple might have come close together,

and in

> Boys chart its in Ve antra, and Ve is LoE for 5th and placed in

House E for

> 12th with more points thereby making it eager.

>

> Also in many cases when the couple do not have children then also

marriage

> happen in low points.

>

> Note: In the girls chart, DBCE points are rising from Sun, Ju is in

libra,

> Ju is aspecting 2nd and 7th lord/ house, Ve is moola, and there is

delay due

> to Saturn and Sun is in 7th house. These things shows multiple

marriages or

> relations.

>

> What is their status currently Bala, regarding happiness in marriage or

> children?

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> On Behalf Of

> Balasubramanian

> Sunday May 4, 2008 10:48 AM

>

> Re: Love marriage-attraction

>

> Dear Anup,

>

> I note your points. Position of Lagna as indicated by you is correct.

> The native (male) informed me that his grandfather himself is an

> Astrologer and that the birth time can never be wrong.

>

> All other points mentioned by you are noted by me. As you said let me

> wait till other members respond.

>

> Bala

>

> <%40> , " Anup. M "

> <dalh_1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bala and List,

> >

> > You have attempted this in nice way applying KAS

> > and its rules.I wld like to write few words in this context,

> > while going thru your mail.

> >

> > I am getting Asc 26 Le 28 for male chart.

> > There is Saturn delay moderated/nullify by Jup aspect on

> > Sat in navamsa.

> > Venus the natural Karka and Mer,the FK both are

> > debiliated in Navamsa.

> > 1st house have 33pts as compared to 20 in 7th house.

> >

> > Marriage happened in Aug2004 in Venus antra.

> > Venus aspects house C.

> > So how marriage happened in Venus antra?

> > Sun being SD can not step in for Venus here.

> >

> > Venus is spoiled a little being within 4deg to Sun

> > and with Sun..

> > In venus antra,involvement in a relationship

> > cant be denied.Sat and Mars become strong taking points

> > from Mer and Moon respectively.

> >

> > While taking Virgo lagna,Sun and Venus can give marriage.

> > I may be wrong but members can correct me.

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

> > Balasubramanian <yenbeeyes@> wrote:

> > Dear Ash and list members,

> >

> > I was going through the post 'attraction' in the forum. I give below

> 2 charts which ended up in marriage. Boy is a Hindu and the girl is a

> Russian. I would request Ash and other members to see whether my

> reasoning is correct.

> >

> > Boy's Data: 04th January, 1978; TOB: 22:42: Time Zone: IST -5:30

> > Long: 77 E 26; Lat: 8 N 10; Ayanamsa used: 22:39:38

> >

> > Girl's Data: 02nd February, 1979; TOB: 16:15: Time Zone: EET -2.00

> > Long: 28 E 38; Lat: 53 N 17; Ayanamsa used: 22:40:33

> >

> > About Attraction: If we overlap the charts -

> >

> > In Rasi Chart:

> > 1. Saturn of Male conjojns Saturn of Female.

> > 2. Rahu of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> > 3. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> > 4. Rahu of female aspects Venus.

> >

> > In the Navamsa Chart

> > 1. Saturn of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> > 2. Rahu of Male conjoins Mars of Female.

> > 3. Mars of Male aspects Venus of Female.

> > 4. Mars of Male aspects Mars of Female.

> > 5. Moon of Female and Sun of Male aspect each other (For friendship)

> >

> > So relationship between Venus with Rahu in the male's chart,Mars

> with Rahu in both the charts and Mars with Saturn in female chart is

> established.

> > Relationship of Mars and Venus is in femlae chart only.

> > Sun annd Moon relationship is also only in female chart.

> >

> > Timing of friendship:

> >

> > 5th house is the house of friendship. In both the charts Jupiter has

> the highest points in the WS for 5th house.

> >

> > The couple informed that they got into friendship around middle of

2003.

> >

> > Girl was having Antara of Ketu from 14.05.2003 to 13.07.2004

> > Boy was having Antara of Venus from 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004

> >

> > Ketu in Girl's chart should give effects of Jupiter as he is in his

> constellation or Saturn in whose house he is placed.

> > In boy's chart there is only aspect of Jupiter from house 'C' on

Venus.

> >

> > My little knowledge is unable to corelate this. Can any one explain

> the samee ?

> >

> > Other Points:

> >

> > Actual marriage took place on 21st August 2004 in Foreign country -

> Belarus.

> >

> > Girl was running Antara of Sun : 13.07.2004 to 31.10.2004. Sun is

> having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

> > Boy was running Antara of Venus: 03.09.2001 to 02.11.2004. Venus is

> having the lowest points in WS for 7th house.

> >

> > In Girl's chart Sun is with LOE-Mercury. Being Samdharmi to Mercury

> who is having more than 12 points in WS of 7th house might have

> brought about the marriage.

> >

> > In Boy's chart Sun is with venus in the 5th house. Hence being

> Samdharmi to Sun who has 16 points in the WS of 7th house he might

> have triggered the marriage.

> >

> > Other than this I am unable to find out any reason for the timing of

> marriage.

> >

> > What other points are to be seen?

> >

> > If we see the PDF the combination of planets -denoting the

> significance- are Moon and Mercury during 3rd Aug to 16th Aug and Sun

> and Ketu during 17th Aug. to 30th Aug.

> >

> > The distance between Venus and Sun is less than 43 degree (around 36

> degree). But Venus is in Mula Nakshatra. So it gets spoiled. (or is it

> to be taken only when the distance is more than 43 degree). However

> there is no aspect of either Jupiter or Saturn on Venus.

> > And also Jupiter is in Libra Navamsa - What would be the outcome of

> this ?

> >

> > Also there is an aspect of 6th lord (Saturn in boy's chart and

> Jupiter in girl's chart) aspecting the 7th house.

> >

> > The Ascendant of the boy has 33 points and the Girl has only 22

> points SAV.

> >

> > The combinations of Lord of Lagna, Moon and Sun plus the lord of 7th

> from them - for the girl it is more than 50 and the boy it is only 40.

> >

> > Does all these indicate any trouble in the married life ?

> >

> > Message for Mr. Ash:

> >

> > I am still going through the Archives. Oh! What a store of

> information it has. In the meantime, I got this horoscope for

> analysis. The doubts that I got I have mentioned above. Kindly clarify.

> >

> > Bala

> >

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

> Try it now.

> >

>

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