Newbie

July 11, 2008

I've been a member about a week and have been watching the postings. I don't like to just join a list and ask for a reading, but I would really like to know the answer... and if I am out of line or this is unappropriate, please just tell me.

I am Lori. DOB: Feb. 27, 1961 (02-27-1961)

TOB: 05:46 AM CST;

41N39'40"

091W31'48"

Iowa City, IA

I've studied Astrology a long time - Western. I know by looking at my progressions that this Fall shows some things coming for me that have statistically produced events in the past. But I am curious to see if there could be love in my life again. I don't know that marriage is absolutely necessary, as I have been there, done that twice. But a long term, committed, happy love relationship is what I seek. So, if anyone can tell me when/if this might happen again, it would be greatly appreciated!

I married the 1st time on September 23, 1989 and the 2nd time on April 20, 2002. I know, in Western Astrology, what was going on both times, and see it pretty clearly in retrospect.

I do have a man that I dated awhile earlier this year. He is DOB: July 30, 1963 (07/30/1963).

TOB: 11:58 PM CDT

38N37'38"

090W11'52"

St. Louis, MO

I have been hoping to rekindle something with him. If not, I will be happy with someone else.

Thank you for your consideration!

Lori

Nobody can go back and start a new beginning,but anyone can start today and make a new ending!

July 12, 2008

Hello,

From KAS perspective, currently you are in Mercury sub period. Merciry has 15 points in the WS for 7th house so it can give result for 7th house matters, however mercury is 6th lord and therefore a cautious approach is advised.

You married the firsttime during Saturn sub period, Saturn has leat points for the 7th house, and it probably gave the evnt as samadharmi to Jupiter. ( Ash, please elaborate on this point, what happens if a planet gives an event when it has low points but as samadharmi to a planet who has more points, what would be the quality of the event?)

The second time it was in Jupiter sub period whichis LOE so the evnt precipitated. I am not sure why the quality of event was not good.

May be Ash can elaborate on some of the points.

Satish--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Lori L. Clark <psychic wrote:

Lori L. Clark <psychic Newbie Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 7:43 AM

I've been a member about a week and have been watching the postings. I don't like to just join a list and ask for a reading, but I would really like to know the answer... and if I am out of line or this is unappropriate, please just tell me.

I am Lori. DOB: Feb. 27, 1961 (02-27-1961)

TOB: 05:46 AM CST;

41N39'40"

091W31'48"

Iowa City, IA

I've studied Astrology a long time - Western. I know by looking at my progressions that this Fall shows some things coming for me that have statistically produced events in the past. But I am curious to see if there could be love in my life again. I don't know that marriage is absolutely necessary, as I have been there, done that twice. But a long term, committed, happy love relationship is what I seek. So, if anyone can tell me when/if this might happen again, it would be greatly appreciated!

I married the 1st time on September 23, 1989 and the 2nd time on April 20, 2002. I know, in Western Astrology, what was going on both times, and see it pretty clearly in retrospect.

I do have a man that I dated awhile earlier this year. He is DOB: July 30, 1963 (07/30/1963) .

TOB: 11:58 PM CDT

38N37'38"

090W11'52"

St. Louis, MO

I have been hoping to rekindle something with him. If not, I will be happy with someone else.

Thank you for your consideration!

Lori

Nobody can go back and start a new beginning,but anyone can start today and make a new ending!

July 12, 2008

Dear

Satish ji,

You

are correct. Now we are studying

this chart from a native who is in the US so desh kaal Paatra principles apply of US and our laws have to be

translated accordingly.

Ve to sun is 43 deg and its aspected by Saturn and Saturn aspects

both luminarys, so Natural karak

for marriage is spoilt. From lagna,

sun, mo, ma and ve and their 7th are all

in 1:7 or 2:12.

Also

in this case, Ju is in lagna with 5 bindus. 2 sectors of Sa and 2 of Me is also

there, and many planets are SD to 2nd lord or in 2nd

house or in navamsa of 2nd lord making them SD.

6th

lord is in 2nd house affecting family life, however this lady has

blessings. Also from Lagna, her DBCE points

are rising, showing a confident lady, and with Ju in lagna, if anyone will say

anything, she might feel hurt and walk off.

Now

marriage is in low points will break in high points and in 2nd case,

she married in Ju antra and next antra is that of Sa with less points so again

it might break.

Now,

Me antra is there and it is triggering 12th house and 7th

but for 5th house it is less with 9 points. Me is in 2nd house so again

showing worries and stress, particularly for 5th house and also 8th

house matters. Now, Me is in 2nd

house with 5 bindus, so eager to give 5th house results at the same

time, the power is less in 5th house so here, the attraction is more

on the physical level and as u have pointed out that Me is 6th lord

as well and that is trying to give 5th house results and 7th

house but its not good for 7th house matters, and at the same time its LoD for 12th

house so triggering that.

So

5th house is triggering but happiness is not there, 7th

house feelings are there as well, but not materializing for some reason or the

other, and at the same time, 12th house is triggering. Also Ve is in

10th place from Mars and Ve is with 4

bindus and Ma is with 5 bindus and Ve is LoE for 5th,

and LoE for 12th as well, so in such case Ve

will control Ma (LoD and LoE in 10th place with 4 bindus can get

power from planet in 4th place who has more bindus than them i.e 5 and greater), and this Ve

is spoilt and its enhanced by Sa due to its aspect and Sa aspects both

luminaries. Ma is in 6th

house, so it makes a person very passionate at the same time all 2:12 and 1:7 i.e .relation from lagna sun mo ve

and ma.

I

think u can fill in the blanks..... J

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of SPK

Saturday July 12, 2008 12:52

PM

Re:

Newbie

Hello,

From

KAS perspective, currently you are in Mercury sub period. Merciry has 15

points in the WS for 7th house so it can give result for 7th house matters,

however mercury is 6th lord and therefore a cautious approach is advised.

You

married the firsttime during Saturn sub period, Saturn has leat points for

the 7th house, and it probably gave the evnt as samadharmi to Jupiter. ( Ash,

please elaborate on this point, what happens if a planet gives an event when

it has low points but as samadharmi to a planet who has more points, what

would be the quality of the event?)

The

second time it was in Jupiter sub period whichis LOE so the evnt

precipitated. I am not sure why the quality of event was not good.

May be

Ash can elaborate on some of the points.

Satish

--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Lori L. Clark <psychic

wrote:

Lori L. Clark <psychic

Newbie

Friday, July 11, 2008, 7:43 AM

I've been a member about a week and have been

watching the postings. I don't like to just join a list and ask for

a reading, but I would really like to know the answer... and if I am out

of line or this is unappropriate, please just tell me.

I am Lori. DOB: Feb. 27, 1961 (02-27-1961)

TOB: 05:46 AM CST;

41N39'40 "

091W31'48 "

Iowa City, IA

I've studied Astrology a long time - Western. I

know by looking at my progressions that this Fall shows some things coming

for me that have statistically produced events in the past. But I am

curious to see if there could be love in my life again. I don't know that

marriage is absolutely necessary, as I have been there, done that twice. But

a long term, committed, happy love relationship is what I seek. So, if anyone

can tell me when/if this might happen again, it would be greatly appreciated!

I married the 1st time on September 23, 1989

and the 2nd time on April 20, 2002. I know, in Western Astrology, what was

going on both times, and see it pretty clearly in retrospect.

I do have a man that I dated awhile earlier

this year. He is DOB: July 30, 1963 (07/30/1963) .

TOB: 11:58 PM CDT

38N37'38 "

090W11'52 "

St. Louis, MO

I have been hoping to rekindle something with

him. If not, I will be happy with someone else.

Thank you for your consideration!

Lori

Nobody can go back and start a new

beginning,

but anyone can start today and make a new ending!

July 12, 2008

Dear Ash,

Thanks for the explanation. There are two general questions that arise from this chart.

1. Can a low point planet give result if it is samadharmi to a high point planet, the high point planet may or may not be LoD, or LoE.

2.In this case if we were timing marriage, why did Saturn give it? If it gave as samadharmi to Ju, LoE, then why Ju himself whose dasha ran earlier not give it?

3. We have discussed this question in the past,but as it is relevant in this case I will ask again. In this Me whose sub is running now, is in House A with 5 points. CAn a planet residing in A, B or C precipitae the event. The KAS rule is that if a planet aspect A, B, or C it can not give result. I beleive that resident of A, B, or C can give the result himself. Is this correct?

Thanks

Satish

P.S. Please drop the Ji

Thanks--- On Sat, 7/12/08, Ash's Corner <kas wrote:

Ash's Corner <kasRE: Newbie Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 3:05 PM

Dear Satish ji,

You are correct. Now we are studying this chart from a native who is in the US so desh kaal Paatra principles apply of US and our laws have to be translated accordingly.

Ve to sun is 43 deg and its aspected by Saturn and Saturn aspects both luminarys, so Natural karak for marriage is spoilt. From lagna, sun, mo, ma and ve and their 7th are all in 1:7 or 2:12.

Also in this case, Ju is in lagna with 5 bindus. 2 sectors of Sa and 2 of Me is also there, and many planets are SD to 2nd lord or in 2nd house or in navamsa of 2nd lord making them SD.

6th lord is in 2nd house affecting family life, however this lady has blessings. Also from Lagna, her DBCE points are rising, showing a confident lady, and with Ju in lagna, if anyone will say anything, she might feel hurt and walk off.

Now marriage is in low points will break in high points and in 2nd case, she married in Ju antra and next antra is that of Sa with less points so again it might break.

Now, Me antra is there and it is triggering 12th house and 7th but for 5th house it is less with 9 points. Me is in 2nd house so again showing worries and stress, particularly for 5th house and also 8th house matters. Now, Me is in 2nd house with 5 bindus, so eager to give 5th house results at the same time, the power is less in 5th house so here, the attraction is more on the physical level and as u have pointed out that Me is 6th lord as well and that is trying to give 5th house results and 7th house but its not good for 7th house matters, and at the same time its LoD for 12th house so triggering that.

So 5th house is triggering but happiness is not there, 7th house feelings are there as well, but not materializing for some reason or the other, and at the same time, 12th house is triggering. Also Ve is in 10th place from Mars and Ve is with 4 bindus and Ma is with 5 bindus and Ve is LoE for 5th, and LoE for 12th as well, so in such case Ve will control Ma (LoD and LoE in 10th place with 4 bindus can get power from planet in 4th place who has more bindus than them i.e 5 and greater), and this Ve is spoilt and its enhanced by Sa due to its aspect and Sa aspects both luminaries. Ma

is in 6th house, so it makes a person very passionate at the same time all 2:12 and 1:7 i.e .relation from lagna sun mo ve and ma.

I think u can fill in the blanks..... J

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of SPKSaturday July 12, 2008 12:52 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Newbie

Hello,

From KAS perspective, currently you are in Mercury sub period. Merciry has 15 points in the WS for 7th house so it can give result for 7th house matters, however mercury is 6th lord and therefore a cautious approach is advised.

You married the firsttime during Saturn sub period, Saturn has leat points for the 7th house, and it probably gave the evnt as samadharmi to Jupiter. ( Ash, please elaborate on this point, what happens if a planet gives an event when it has low points but as samadharmi to a planet who has more points, what would be the quality of the event?)

The second time it was in Jupiter sub period whichis LOE so the evnt precipitated. I am not sure why the quality of event was not good.

May be Ash can elaborate on some of the points.

Satish--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Lori L. Clark <psychic (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Lori L. Clark <psychic (AT) charter (DOT) net>[astrologyandtiming events] Newbieastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, July 11, 2008, 7:43 AM

I've been a member about a week and have been watching the postings. I don't like to just join a list and ask for a reading, but I would really like to know the answer... and if I am out of line or this is unappropriate, please just tell me.

I am Lori. DOB: Feb. 27, 1961 (02-27-1961)

TOB: 05:46 AM CST;

41N39'40"

091W31'48"

Iowa City, IA

I've studied Astrology a long time - Western. I know by looking at my progressions that this Fall shows some things coming for me that have statistically produced events in the past. But I am curious to see if there could be love in my life again. I don't know that marriage is absolutely necessary, as I have been there, done that twice. But a long term, committed, happy love relationship is what I seek. So, if anyone can tell me when/if this might happen again, it would be greatly appreciated!

I married the 1st time on September 23, 1989 and the 2nd time on April 20, 2002. I know, in Western Astrology, what was going on both times, and see it pretty clearly in retrospect.

I do have a man that I dated awhile earlier this year. He is DOB: July 30, 1963 (07/30/1963) .

TOB: 11:58 PM CDT

38N37'38"

090W11'52"

St. Louis, MO

I have been hoping to rekindle something with him. If not, I will be happy with someone else.

Thank you for your consideration!

Lori

Nobody can go back and start a new beginning,but anyone can start today and make a new ending!

July 12, 2008

Dear

Satish ji,

My

answers in Blue.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of SPK

Saturday July 12, 2008 4:59

PM

To:

RE:

Newbie

Dear

Ash,

Thanks

for the explanation. There are two general questions that arise from this

chart.

1.

Can a low point planet give

result if it is samadharmi to a high point planet, the high point

planet may or may not be LoD, or LoE.

Ash : Low power planet means its eager to give an unhappy

event, now if its SD to LoD or LoE then LoD and LoE are eager so by being SD

to LoD or LoE they also become sam-dharmi or have

similar duty so they will try to give the result as they become more eager.

2.In

this case if we were timing marriage, why did Saturn give it? If it gave as

samadharmi to Ju, LoE, then why Ju himself whose dasha ran earlier not give

it?

Ash

: Here in this case, the Karak is

spoilt due to distance, and getting power from Ma making it more passionate

and at the same time its getting further spoilt by Sa’s

aspect and Sa aspects both luminaries. So the quality of venus

is totally spoilt. In such case,

mostly marriage might happen in lowest power planet. Also Ma is 12th from B = 5th

house and getting power from LoE (4:10) and Ma is in 6th house

with more than 4 bindus and the Karak sthan for marriage has the 6th

lord so spoiling the Karak sthan and also NK is spoilt.

So

here there is delay. This native

might have come close to someone even as early as the age of 16-17 in June /

July month. If the native can confirm this it will

be good.

In Ju

antra before that, 7th house power is good, but 5th and

12th house power is less.

When Sa antra came, it triggered 5th house and its SD to LoD

for 7th and also NSD to LoE for 12th. However the power of Sa itself is less

but its getting eager but happiness is not there.

Then

just study the psychology of the native, and also the quality i.e. 2:12 and

also 1:7 from lagna, sun mo ve and ma. So all not auguring well for marriage. Along with the fact that NK and Karak

sthan being spoilt, we can select Sa to give marriage eagerly as it has low

points.

Now,

what exactly happened, that the native can give or shed light on and we can

verify. However, it seems that

this lady might be doing something on her own as far as work is concerned or

her own business.

3. We

have discussed this question in the past,but as it is relevant in this case I

will ask again. In this Me whose sub is running now, is in House A with 5

points. CAn a planet residing in A, B or C precipitae the event. The KAS rule

is that if a planet aspect A, B, or C it can not give result. I beleive that

resident of A, B, or C can give the result himself. Is this correct?

Mercury

is not aspecting 2nd 7th or 11th so it can

give the event, but here Me is 6th lord so if it gives the event

(timing of event) due to having more power in WS, then it can give timing of

event (unhappy one) and the quality will be spoilt.

A

planet cannot give event, only if it ASPECTS House A B or C unless it is LoD

or LoE then it can give.

So in

this case, Me is 6th lord so its not good for 7th house

matters that is the basic. Next

is timing of event, so here Me is in 2nd house and also its in 6th

from 9th so this lady has blessings of her ancestors and also her

father. That will act as in

invisible shield for the native, now lagna and 9th lords are in

2:12 so she might be living away from her father since a young age. She also might have married her first

husband against the choice of her father or elders.

However,

all this is my interpretation, so if the native can confirm all these things

we might not know the reality.

Thanks

Satish

P.S.

Please drop the Ji

Thanks

--- On Sat, 7/12/08, Ash's Corner

<kas

wrote:

Ash's Corner <kas

RE: Newbie

Saturday, July 12, 2008, 3:05 PM

Dear Satish ji,

You are correct. Now we are studying this chart from a

native who is in the US so desh kaal

Paatra principles apply of US and our laws have to be translated accordingly.

Ve to sun is 43 deg and its aspected by Saturn and Saturn aspects

both luminarys, so Natural karak

for marriage is spoilt. From lagna, sun, mo, ma and ve

and their 7th are all in 1:7 or 2:12.

Also in this case, Ju is in lagna with 5 bindus. 2 sectors

of Sa and 2 of Me is also there, and many planets are SD to 2nd

lord or in 2nd house or in navamsa of 2nd lord making

them SD.

6th lord is in 2nd house affecting family

life, however this lady has blessings. Also from Lagna, her

DBCE points are rising, showing a confident lady, and with Ju in lagna, if

anyone will say anything, she might feel hurt and walk off.

Now marriage is in low points will break in high points and in 2nd

case, she married in Ju antra and next antra is that of Sa with less points

so again it might break.

Now, Me antra is there and it is triggering 12th house

and 7th but for 5th house it is less with 9

points. Me is in 2nd house so again showing worries and

stress, particularly for 5th house and also 8th house

matters. Now, Me is in 2nd house with 5 bindus, so eager to

give 5th house results at the same time, the power is less in 5th

house so here, the attraction is more on the physical level and as u have

pointed out that Me is 6th lord as well and that is trying to give

5th house results and 7th house but its not good for 7th

house matters, and at the same time its LoD for 12th house

so triggering that.

So 5th house is triggering but happiness is not there,

7th house feelings are there as well, but not materializing for

some reason or the other, and at the same time, 12th house is

triggering. Also Ve is in 10th

place from Mars and Ve is with 4 bindus and Ma is

with 5 bindus and Ve is LoE for 5th, and

LoE for 12th as well, so in such case Ve

will control Ma (LoD and LoE in 10th place with 4 bindus can get

power from planet in 4th place who has more bindus than them i.e 5 and greater), and this Ve

is spoilt and its enhanced by Sa due to its aspect and Sa aspects both

luminaries. Ma is in 6th house, so it makes a person very

passionate at the same time all 2:12 and 1:7 i.e

..relation from lagna sun mo ve and ma.

I think u can fill in the blanks..... J

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.

ca

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents@

. com] On Behalf Of SPK

Saturday July 12, 2008

12:52 PM

astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

Re: [astrologyandtiming

events] Newbie

Hello,

From

KAS perspective, currently you are in Mercury sub period. Merciry has 15

points in the WS for 7th house so it can give result for 7th house matters,

however mercury is 6th lord and therefore a cautious approach is advised.

You

married the firsttime during Saturn sub period, Saturn has leat points for

the 7th house, and it probably gave the evnt as samadharmi to Jupiter. (

Ash, please elaborate on this point, what happens if a planet gives an

event when it has low points but as samadharmi to a planet who has more

points, what would be the quality of the event?)

The

second time it was in Jupiter sub period whichis LOE so the evnt

precipitated. I am not sure why the quality of event was not good.

May

be Ash can elaborate on some of the points.

Satish

--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Lori L. Clark <psychic (AT) charter (DOT) net>

wrote:

Lori L. Clark <psychic (AT) charter (DOT) net>

[astrologyandtiming events] Newbie

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

Friday, July 11, 2008, 7:43 AM

I've been a member about a

week and have been watching the postings. I don't like to just join a list

and ask for a reading, but I would really like to know the answer...

and if I am out of line or this is unappropriate, please just tell me.

I am Lori. DOB: Feb. 27, 1961

(02-27-1961)

TOB: 05:46 AM CST;

41N39'40 "

091W31'48 "

Iowa City, IA

I've studied Astrology a long

time - Western. I know by looking at my progressions that this Fall shows

some things coming for me that have statistically produced events in the

past. But I am curious to see if there could be love in my life again.

I don't know that marriage is absolutely necessary, as I have been there,

done that twice. But a long term, committed, happy love relationship is

what I seek. So, if anyone can tell me when/if this might happen again, it

would be greatly appreciated!

I married the 1st time on

September 23, 1989 and the 2nd time on April 20, 2002. I know, in Western

Astrology, what was going on both times, and see it pretty clearly in

retrospect.

I do have a man that I dated

awhile earlier this year. He is DOB: July 30, 1963 (07/30/1963) .

TOB: 11:58 PM CDT

38N37'38 "

090W11'52 "

St. Louis, MO

I have been hoping to

rekindle something with him. If not, I will be happy with someone else.

Thank you for your

consideration!

Lori

Nobody

can go back and start a new beginning,

but anyone can start today and make a new ending!

July 12, 2008

Hello all! Thank you for your interpretations on this. I am studying it all and am trying to make sense of it. Much like when I first started studying western astrology... it seemed so hard to comprehend and I didn't think I would ever "get it." I have made comments below in RED.

Nobody can go back and start a new beginning,but anyone can start today and make a new ending!

- Ash's Corner

Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:08 PM

RE: Newbie

Dear Satish ji,

My answers in Blue.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of SPKSaturday July 12, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: RE: Newbie

Dear Ash,

Thanks for the explanation. There are two general questions that arise from this chart.

1. Can a low point planet give result if it is samadharmi to a high point planet, the high point planet may or may not be LoD, or LoE.

Ash : Low power planet means its eager to give an unhappy event, now if its SD to LoD or LoE then LoD and LoE are eager so by being SD to LoD or LoE they also become sam-dharmi or have similar duty so they will try to give the result as they become more eager.

This is really interesting to me. It is like you are telling me that it is very happy to give an even that brings unhappy feelings. My only thoughts on this would be that in that case, it would be karmic in nature. Since it seems that we go through life and the saddest times, or the hardest lessons are also the times when we grow the most.

2.In this case if we were timing marriage, why did Saturn give it? If it gave as samadharmi to Ju, LoE, then why Ju himself whose dasha ran earlier not give it?

Ash : Here in this case, the Karak is spoilt due to distance, and getting power from Ma making it more passionate and at the same time its getting further spoilt by Sa’s aspect and Sa aspects both luminaries. So the quality of venus is totally spoilt. In such case, mostly marriage might happen in lowest power planet. Also Ma is 12th from B = 5th house and getting power from LoE (4:10) and Ma is in 6th house with more than 4 bindus and the Karak sthan for marriage has the 6th lord so spoiling the Karak sthan and also NK is spoilt.

So here there is delay. This native might have come close to someone even as early as the age of 16-17 in June / July month. If the native can confirm this it will be good.

I remember my first astrology reading. The lady told me that there was not a denial of marriage, merely a delay. I guess I did get married later than some, as I waited until I was 28 to marry the first time. I did have a very deep "infatuation" with a young man as early as 14, 15, and just prior to my turning 16, he was killed in a car accident. During the age of 16/17 I don't recall any significant relationships.

In Ju antra before that, 7th house power is good, but 5th and 12th house power is less. When Sa antra came, it triggered 5th house and its SD to LoD for 7th and also NSD to LoE for 12th. However the power of Sa itself is less but its getting eager but happiness is not there.

Then just study the psychology of the native, and also the quality i.e. 2:12 and also 1:7 from lagna, sun mo ve and ma. So all not auguring well for marriage. Along with the fact that NK and Karak sthan being spoilt, we can select Sa to give marriage eagerly as it has low points.

Now, what exactly happened, that the native can give or shed light on and we can verify. However, it seems that this lady might be doing something on her own as far as work is concerned or her own business.

What is it you would like to know? I am not shy I will share any details you would like that may help you in your studies. Just ask, I am an open book.

3. We have discussed this question in the past,but as it is relevant in this case I will ask again. In this Me whose sub is running now, is in House A with 5 points. CAn a planet residing in A, B or C precipitae the event. The KAS rule is that if a planet aspect A, B, or C it can not give result. I beleive that resident of A, B, or C can give the result himself. Is this correct?

Mercury is not aspecting 2nd 7th or 11th so it can give the event, but here Me is 6th lord so if it gives the event (timing of event) due to having more power in WS, then it can give timing of event (unhappy one) and the quality will be spoilt.

Am I destined to only have unhappy marriages and therefore should I just not get married again? That's why I said, I would be content to just live with my partner, rather than commit to marriage again. I am tired of being lonely and would like to have someone to share my time with.

A planet cannot give event, only if it ASPECTS House A B or C unless it is LoD or LoE then it can give.

So in this case, Me is 6th lord so its not good for 7th house matters that is the basic. Next is timing of event, so here Me is in 2nd house and also its in 6th from 9th so this lady has blessings of her ancestors and also her father. That will act as in invisible shield for the native, now lagna and 9th lords are in 2:12 so she might be living away from her father since a young age. She also might have married her first husband against the choice of her father or elders.

However, all this is my interpretation, so if the native can confirm all these things we might not know the reality.

Blessings of my ancestors. In western Astrology, I have what is known as the hand of providence in my chart. This is Jupiter in the 12th. I grew up having my father in my life. He was there physically, but perhaps emotionally, he was unavailable, as I had to "compete" with my mother for my father's attention/affection. He is still alive but lives in another part of the country from where I live now.

Thanks

Satish

P.S. Please drop the Ji

Thanks--- On Sat, 7/12/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote:

Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kasRE: Newbie Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 3:05 PM

Dear Satish ji,

You are correct. Now we are studying this chart from a native who is in the US so desh kaal Paatra principles apply of US and our laws have to be translated accordingly.

Ve to sun is 43 deg and its aspected by Saturn and Saturn aspects both luminarys, so Natural karak for marriage is spoilt. From lagna, sun, mo, ma and ve and their 7th are all in 1:7 or 2:12.

Also in this case, Ju is in lagna with 5 bindus. 2 sectors of Sa and 2 of Me is also there, and many planets are SD to 2nd lord or in 2nd house or in navamsa of 2nd lord making them SD.

6th lord is in 2nd house affecting family life, however this lady has blessings. Also from Lagna, her DBCE points are rising, showing a confident lady, and with Ju in lagna, if anyone will say anything, she might feel hurt and walk off.

Now marriage is in low points will break in high points and in 2nd case, she married in Ju antra and next antra is that of Sa with less points so again it might break.

Now, Me antra is there and it is triggering 12th house and 7th but for 5th house it is less with 9 points. Me is in 2nd house so again showing worries and stress, particularly for 5th house and also 8th house matters. Now, Me is in 2nd house with 5 bindus, so eager to give 5th house results at the same time, the power is less in 5th house so here, the attraction is more on the physical level and as u have pointed out that Me is 6th lord as well and that is trying to give 5th house results and 7th house but its not good for 7th house matters, and at the same time its LoD for 12th house so triggering that.

So 5th house is triggering but happiness is not there, 7th house feelings are there as well, but not materializing for some reason or the other, and at the same time, 12th house is triggering. Also Ve is in 10th place from Mars and Ve is with 4 bindus and Ma is with 5 bindus and Ve is LoE for 5th, and LoE for 12th as well, so in such case Ve will control Ma (LoD and LoE in 10th place with 4 bindus can get power from planet in 4th place who has more bindus than them i.e 5 and greater), and this Ve is spoilt and its enhanced by Sa due to its aspect and Sa aspects both luminaries. Ma is in 6th house, so it makes a person very passionate at the same time all 2:12 and 1:7 i.e .relation from lagna sun mo ve and ma.

I think u can fill in the blanks..... J

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of SPKSaturday July 12, 2008 12:52 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Newbie

Hello,

From KAS perspective, currently you are in Mercury sub period. Merciry has 15 points in the WS for 7th house so it can give result for 7th house matters, however mercury is 6th lord and therefore a cautious approach is advised.

You married the firsttime during Saturn sub period, Saturn has leat points for the 7th house, and it probably gave the evnt as samadharmi to Jupiter. ( Ash, please elaborate on this point, what happens if a planet gives an event when it has low points but as samadharmi to a planet who has more points, what would be the quality of the event?)

The second time it was in Jupiter sub period whichis LOE so the evnt precipitated. I am not sure why the quality of event was not good.

May be Ash can elaborate on some of the points.

Satish--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Lori L. Clark <psychic (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Lori L. Clark <psychic (AT) charter (DOT) net>[astrologyandtiming events] Newbieastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, July 11, 2008, 7:43 AM

I've been a member about a week and have been watching the postings. I don't like to just join a list and ask for a reading, but I would really like to know the answer... and if I am out of line or this is unappropriate, please just tell me.

I am Lori. DOB: Feb. 27, 1961 (02-27-1961)

TOB: 05:46 AM CST;

41N39'40"

091W31'48"

Iowa City, IA

I've studied Astrology a long time - Western. I know by looking at my progressions that this Fall shows some things coming for me that have statistically produced events in the past. But I am curious to see if there could be love in my life again. I don't know that marriage is absolutely necessary, as I have been there, done that twice. But a long term, committed, happy love relationship is what I seek. So, if anyone can tell me when/if this might happen again, it would be greatly appreciated!

I married the 1st time on September 23, 1989 and the 2nd time on April 20, 2002. I know, in Western Astrology, what was going on both times, and see it pretty clearly in retrospect.

I do have a man that I dated awhile earlier this year. He is DOB: July 30, 1963 (07/30/1963) .

TOB: 11:58 PM CDT

38N37'38"

090W11'52"

St. Louis, MO

I have been hoping to rekindle something with him. If not, I will be happy with someone else.

Thank you for your consideration!

Lori

Nobody can go back and start a new beginning,but anyone can start today and make a new ending!

July 12, 2008

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question.

My comments in blue, below.

Nobody can go back and start a new beginning,but anyone can start today and make a new ending!

- SPK

Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:51 AM

Re: Newbie

Hello,

From KAS perspective, currently you are in Mercury sub period. Merciry has 15 points in the WS for 7th house so it can give result for 7th house matters, however mercury is 6th lord and therefore a cautious approach is advised.

In other words, you are suggesting that right now, there is some indication that I could marry - but I might want to really think things through before doing so? After reading all these posts/comments on my chart... I am starting to wonder if maybe single is better for me?

You married the firsttime during Saturn sub period, Saturn has leat points for the 7th house, and it probably gave the evnt as samadharmi to Jupiter. ( Ash, please elaborate on this point, what happens if a planet gives an event when it has low points but as samadharmi to a planet who has more points, what would be the quality of the event?)

The second time it was in Jupiter sub period whichis LOE so the evnt precipitated. I am not sure why the quality of event was not good.

The 2nd marriage was to a man who was my best friend. He was quite possibly one of the great loves of my lifetime. I still think of him fondly. BUT... he had (has) a problem with alcoholism and he had a hard time holding a job or keeping a steady income. We were very close, but I couldn't continue to support him or his habits, so we parted ways.

May be Ash can elaborate on some of the points.

Satish--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Lori L. Clark <psychic (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Lori L. Clark <psychic (AT) charter (DOT) net> Newbie Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 7:43 AM

I've been a member about a week and have been watching the postings. I don't like to just join a list and ask for a reading, but I would really like to know the answer... and if I am out of line or this is unappropriate, please just tell me.

I am Lori. DOB: Feb. 27, 1961 (02-27-1961)

TOB: 05:46 AM CST;

41N39'40"

091W31'48"

Iowa City, IA

I've studied Astrology a long time - Western. I know by looking at my progressions that this Fall shows some things coming for me that have statistically produced events in the past. But I am curious to see if there could be love in my life again. I don't know that marriage is absolutely necessary, as I have been there, done that twice. But a long term, committed, happy love relationship is what I seek. So, if anyone can tell me when/if this might happen again, it would be greatly appreciated!

I married the 1st time on September 23, 1989 and the 2nd time on April 20, 2002. I know, in Western Astrology, what was going on both times, and see it pretty clearly in retrospect.

I do have a man that I dated awhile earlier this year. He is DOB: July 30, 1963 (07/30/1963) .

TOB: 11:58 PM CDT

38N37'38"

090W11'52"

St. Louis, MO

I have been hoping to rekindle something with him. If not, I will be happy with someone else.

Thank you for your consideration!

Lori

Nobody can go back and start a new beginning,but anyone can start today and make a new ending!

July 12, 2008

I've read some of the things at Donna's site and have inserted a comment or two below in green. Thank you for your time.

Nobody can go back and start a new beginning,but anyone can start today and make a new ending!

- Ash's Corner

Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:05 PM

RE: Newbie

Dear Satish ji,

You are correct. Now we are studying this chart from a native who is in the US so desh kaal Paatra principles apply of US and our laws have to be translated accordingly.

Ve to sun is 43 deg and its aspected by Saturn and Saturn aspects both luminarys, so Natural karak for marriage is spoilt. From lagna, sun, mo, ma and ve and their 7th are all in 1:7 or 2:12.

To translate this into something that I understand... and so as not to offend anyone... If I understand it correctly, the larger the Ve to Sun degrees are, the more a person likes sex? Or the more trouble a person might have with having just 1 partner?

Also in this case, Ju is in lagna with 5 bindus. 2 sectors of Sa and 2 of Me is also there, and many planets are SD to 2nd lord or in 2nd house or in navamsa of 2nd lord making them SD.

6th lord is in 2nd house affecting family life, however this lady has blessings. Also from Lagna, her DBCE points are rising, showing a confident lady, and with Ju in lagna, if anyone will say anything, she might feel hurt and walk off.

Confident about most things. Sometimes suffering from a low self-esteem. But independent to a fault. I am highly, highly sensitive and my feelings get hurt quite easily because I take everything so personally.

Now marriage is in low points will break in high points and in 2nd case, she married in Ju antra and next antra is that of Sa with less points so again it might break.

I gather from this that the potential is there to marry a 3rd time, but it appears you are saying it would quite likely not be a lasting union. Is this is something that is coming up soon again in my life?

Now, Me antra is there and it is triggering 12th house and 7th but for 5th house it is less with 9 points. Me is in 2nd house so again showing worries and stress, particularly for 5th house and also 8th house matters. Now, Me is in 2nd house with 5 bindus, so eager to give 5th house results at the same time, the power is less in 5th house so here, the attraction is more on the physical level and as u have pointed out that Me is 6th lord as well and that is trying to give 5th house results and 7th house but its not good for 7th house matters, and at the same time its LoD for 12th house so triggering that.

So 5th house is triggering but happiness is not there, 7th house feelings are there as well, but not materializing for some reason or the other, and at the same time, 12th house is triggering. Also Ve is in 10th place from Mars and Ve is with 4 bindus and Ma is with 5 bindus and Ve is LoE for 5th, and LoE for 12th as well, so in such case Ve will control Ma (LoD and LoE in 10th place with 4 bindus can get power from planet in 4th place who has more bindus than them i.e 5 and greater), and this Ve is spoilt and its enhanced by Sa due to its aspect and Sa aspects both luminaries. Ma is in 6th house, so it makes a person very passionate at the same time all 2:12 and 1:7 i.e .relation from lagna sun mo ve and ma.

Yes, I didn't understand a lot of that, but I think what you're saying is that the physical/passionate side of the relationships are very important to me and that where some people may marry for money or security, I might marry for other reasons?

I think u can fill in the blanks..... J

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of SPKSaturday July 12, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: Re: Newbie

Hello,

From KAS perspective, currently you are in Mercury sub period. Merciry has 15 points in the WS for 7th house so it can give result for 7th house matters, however mercury is 6th lord and therefore a cautious approach is advised.

You married the firsttime during Saturn sub period, Saturn has leat points for the 7th house, and it probably gave the evnt as samadharmi to Jupiter. ( Ash, please elaborate on this point, what happens if a planet gives an event when it has low points but as samadharmi to a planet who has more points, what would be the quality of the event?)

The second time it was in Jupiter sub period whichis LOE so the evnt precipitated. I am not sure why the quality of event was not good.

May be Ash can elaborate on some of the points.

Satish--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Lori L. Clark <psychic (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Lori L. Clark <psychic (AT) charter (DOT) net> Newbie Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 7:43 AM

I've been a member about a week and have been watching the postings. I don't like to just join a list and ask for a reading, but I would really like to know the answer... and if I am out of line or this is unappropriate, please just tell me.

I am Lori. DOB: Feb. 27, 1961 (02-27-1961)

TOB: 05:46 AM CST;

41N39'40"

091W31'48"

Iowa City, IA

I've studied Astrology a long time - Western. I know by looking at my progressions that this Fall shows some things coming for me that have statistically produced events in the past. But I am curious to see if there could be love in my life again. I don't know that marriage is absolutely necessary, as I have been there, done that twice. But a long term, committed, happy love relationship is what I seek. So, if anyone can tell me when/if this might happen again, it would be greatly appreciated!

I married the 1st time on September 23, 1989 and the 2nd time on April 20, 2002. I know, in Western Astrology, what was going on both times, and see it pretty clearly in retrospect.

I do have a man that I dated awhile earlier this year. He is DOB: July 30, 1963 (07/30/1963) .

TOB: 11:58 PM CDT

38N37'38"

090W11'52"

St. Louis, MO

I have been hoping to rekindle something with him. If not, I will be happy with someone else.

Thank you for your consideration!

Lori

Nobody can go back and start a new beginning,but anyone can start today and make a new ending!

July 12, 2008

Dear Satish,

Though this mail was for Ash,but while going through

archives,i got a little hint about your query.

Please go through message # 5203.

Regards

Anup

--- On Sun, 7/13/08, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

SPK <aquaris_risingRE: Newbie Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 2:28 AM

Dear Ash,

Thanks for the explanation. There are two general questions that arise from this chart.

1. Can a low point planet give result if it is samadharmi to a high point planet, the high point planet may or may not be LoD, or LoE.

2.In this case if we were timing marriage, why did Saturn give it? If it gave as samadharmi to Ju, LoE, then why Ju himself whose dasha ran earlier not give it?

3. We have discussed this question in the past,but as it is relevant in this case I will ask again. In this Me whose sub is running now, is in House A with 5 points. CAn a planet residing in A, B or C precipitae the event. The KAS rule is that if a planet aspect A, B, or C it can not give result. I beleive that resident of A, B, or C can give the result himself. Is this correct?

Thanks

Satish

P.S. Please drop the Ji

Thanks--- On Sat, 7/12/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote:

Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kasRE: [astrologyandtiming events] Newbieastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSaturday, July 12, 2008, 3:05 PM