Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Dear Students Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also give your justification for the same. Gender: Male DOB 7th Oct 1963 TOB 22:50 Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40 IST He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with Children. This is the chart for: (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years) (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years) © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age) Probable date of marriagte: (1) 18th Sept 1985 (2) 24th Sept 1988 (3) 18th Dec 1996 Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer they should give proper reasoning. Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008. thanks and best of Luck krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Respected Guruji, With my little knowledge of the KAS system, let me make an attempt on the Quiz. Delay causing Scenarios: Saturn is aspecting House A for 7th as B. Jupiter is in the Navamsa of Saturn. Lord of Lagna Mercury and 9th Lord Saturn are in 5:9 relationship and hence the delay caused by Saturn and Jupiter gets nullified. The native also has the blessings of his father. Jupiter aspects House A for 7th as B and is placed in Pisces. And it has more than 4 points. This also confirms that there is no delay. 6th Lord Mars is aspecting the FK Moon which may cause a delay. Also Mars is placed in the 7th house along with Rahu in Navamsa. Saturn is aspecting the 7th lord, 2nd house and the 11th lord Mars. SINCE Saturn has less points, the aspects on these houses will be beneficial. However some delay is possible and we cannot say it as Full delay Considering all the above, We can conclude that medium delay is the probable answer. For timing of the event: Rahu Dasa: Rahu behaves like Mercury or Jupiter. There is no direct relationship between Jupiter and Mercudy and the karakas Moon and Venus. However Jupiter is the FK for 12th house and NK for 5th and 2nd house. Hence Rahu can bring about marriage. If we take the Antara of Rahu during 1985 Sun Antara was running. Sun has got the lowest points in all the houses 2nd, 5th, 7th and 12th. Also its SD Mercury is also having less points for 7th and 12th house. So, even though Mercury is LOD for 7th, it may not come forward to give the results for Sun due its low points. If we take the next Antara Moon Moon is placed in house E for 7th as B having 13 points in 7th, 15 points in 5th and 27 points in 2nd. But he is Lord of 2nd and also aspected by Mars who becomes Lord of 12th from B as well as 6th Lord. Thus the FK gets spoiled. So Moon antara is ruled out. Next Antara is of Mars. As he is Lord of 6th as well as 12th lord from house B he is also disqualified. Jupiter dasa started in May 1988. Jupiter is having high points in WS for 2nd and 5th house and is the second highest planet for 7th and 12th house. Jupiter is the FK for 12th house and NK for 5th and 2nd house. There is no direct relationship between Jupiter and the NK and FK of 7th . Beyond this I could not find any other reason to support the rule "main period is that of the karaka planet or its SD." The antara of Jupiter is also not possible as Jupiter has no relationship with LOD or LOE. The next Antara of Saturn is the likely period as Saturn and Venus are natural SDs and Saturn is in the 4th from Venus with less points. Venus is LOE and hence its SD Saturn may bring about the event. Also Venus, Jupiter, Saturn are all having more than 12 points in WS for 7th house. From the WS for 7th house we take Venus and Jupiter for fixing the Probable Date. Venus and Jupiter is between the dates 29th Dec. to 31st Dec. Allowing 13 days grace the date given as the third option viz. 18/12/90 may be the correct answer. In the quiz the third option for probable date is given as 18/12/1996 which I think must be a typographical error. Because in the delaycausing reasons for delayed marriage it is given as 27.5 years. The 27th year starts for the native in 1990 and hence it should be 1990 only. Right or Wrong I just wanted to make an attempt. I await the responses from members as well as Guruji Bala , "krushana Jugal" <krushana wrote:>> Dear Students> > Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart> with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also> give your justification for the same.> Gender: Male> DOB 7th Oct 1963> TOB 22:50> Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40> IST> > He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with> Children.> > This is the chart for:> > (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years)> > (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years)> > © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age)> > > > Probable date of marriagte:> > (1) 18th Sept 1985> > (2) 24th Sept 1988> > (3) 18th Dec 1996> > Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer> they should give proper reasoning.> Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008.> > thanks and best of Luck> krushna> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Respected Guruji, I want to put my understanding about this query. This is a case of delayed marrige. The native married on 18-dec-1996 as per my understanding. There is Sat as well as Jupitor delay. Saturn aspects lord of B Jup and LoC Mars. Jup aspects house A being lord of B. Blessings from Lagna and Sun are there. NK venus is with mars,the 6th lord. Also Mars aspect FK,moon in rasi. So both the karaka's are spoiled due to 6th lord. Blessings could not moderate the delay due to involvement of 6th lord with both karakas.. Here we are concerned only with timing of event,means marriage. In first house,31points and 19 points in 7th house of Sav.So he does not like to be advised or serving order. Four sectors of Sat showing his intelligence, and the native can think as per his mind without seeking any help from third person. So this decision was solely his own. Saturn delay ends in Jan1990. Jupitor delay will end when Jup will touch or through 7th house. This is because Jupitor is itself 7th lord. Jup delay ends in Dec1995. Next antra Venus gave marriage on 18th dec1996 Sun was transiting through Jup sign (the strongest) and in Ketu nakshtra, which represent Jup and Venus (the strongest again). Venus is LoE for 7th house and 12th house. Regards Anup --- On Fri, 7/25/08, krushana Jugal <krushana wrote: krushana Jugal <krushana Quitz Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 11:13 PM Dear Students Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also give your justification for the same. Gender: Male DOB 7th Oct 1963 TOB 22:50 Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40 IST He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with Children. This is the chart for: (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years) (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years) © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age) Probable date of marriagte: (1) 18th Sept 1985 (2) 24th Sept 1988 (3) 18th Dec 1996 Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer they should give proper reasoning. Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008. thanks and best of Luck krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Respected Guru Ji and all, Pranaam, Regret to intimate that I may not be able to participate in the quiz because these days my computer is out of order. No sooner it becomes alright I may attempt the quiz. If the period is till Sept 2008 I hope my computer might be alright then. My absence is regretted. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra --- krushana Jugal <krushana wrote: > Dear Students > > Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. > Please Solve the chart > with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the > options given. Please also > give your justification for the same. > Gender: Male > DOB 7th Oct 1963 > TOB 22:50 > Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40 > IST > > He is married and is having happy narried > life. Blessed with > Children. > > This is the chart for: > > (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 > years) > > (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years) > > © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age) > > > > Probable date of marriagte: > > (1) 18th Sept 1985 > > (2) 24th Sept 1988 > > (3) 18th Dec 1996 > > Members are free to use any system they > like. But for every answer > they should give proper reasoning. > Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd > sept 2008. > > thanks and best of Luck > krushna > Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite group at http://in.promos./groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Krushnaji, I would like to attempt this quiz. From KAS standpoint, Shani aspects house A, LoB and LoC in the Rashi chart, so will cause full delay. Jupiter delay: Jupiter does aspect house A malefically, and he himself is LoB, but he has more than 4 points for Dhanu rashi( house B) so it will not cause a full delay. Sun to venus distance is OK, Venus is not in any of the malefic nakshatras such as Ardra, krittika. Jupiter is not in Libra in rashi as well as navansha. From lagna, the lagna lord and 7th lord are in 1:7 position, Not great From moon rashi lord and 7th lord from it are conjuct. However from moon 7th lord does go in 6th house. From Sun, the sun lagna lord and 7th lord there from are in 1:7 position. So although this is not a great situation, it is not a bad one either. The natural karaka for marriage, venus is with 6th lord, Not good. Functional karaka of marriage , moon ( loA) is aspected by lord of 6th house. So these can cause friction in married life. Saturn delay gets over when Saturn enters the previous sign dhanu. Let say it is 27.5 years. This will put it around 1990 time frame. At this time the dasha running is Jupiter-Saturn. Saturn does have 17 points for 7th house, but he himself is the delay causing planet, and there are other problems in the chart for 7th house so the marriage may not happen in his anatra. The next anatara is of marcury, who is LoD, so eager to give the result. However Mercury only has 9 points in the WS for 7th house. As you have mentioned that he is happily married,I will ignore the mercury anatara. So the marriage must have happened in the Jupiter-Venus period on Dec 18, 1996. Venus is LoE. I am not sure why Ketu anatara did not give marriage, as it is samadharmi to Venus. Satish P.S. Why mercury did not give marriage? If I did not know he was happily married, I would have gone with mercury anatara. krushana Jugal <krushana Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:43:13 PM Quitz Dear Students Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also give your justification for the same. Gender: Male DOB 7th Oct 1963 TOB 22:50 Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40 IST He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with Children. This is the chart for: (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years) (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years) © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age) Probable date of marriagte: (1) 18th Sept 1985 (2) 24th Sept 1988 (3) 18th Dec 1996 Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer they should give proper reasoning. Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008. thanks and best of Luck krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 I forgot to add, there is blessing in rashi chart, as Lord of 9th and lagna are in 5:9 position. I do not know all the nauances of blessings, but as 9th lord shani is in 8th , I think that the native will have delayed marriage. Satish SPK <aquaris_rising Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:12:26 PMRe: Quitz Krushnaji, I would like to attempt this quiz. From KAS standpoint, Shani aspects house A, LoB and LoC in the Rashi chart, so will cause full delay. Jupiter delay: Jupiter does aspect house A malefically, and he himself is LoB, but he has more than 4 points for Dhanu rashi( house B) so it will not cause a full delay. Sun to venus distance is OK, Venus is not in any of the malefic nakshatras such as Ardra, krittika. Jupiter is not in Libra in rashi as well as navansha. From lagna, the lagna lord and 7th lord are in 1:7 position, Not great From moon rashi lord and 7th lord from it are conjuct. However from moon 7th lord does go in 6th house. From Sun, the sun lagna lord and 7th lord there from are in 1:7 position. So although this is not a great situation, it is not a bad one either. The natural karaka for marriage, venus is with 6th lord, Not good. Functional karaka of marriage , moon ( loA) is aspected by lord of 6th house. So these can cause friction in married life. Saturn delay gets over when Saturn enters the previous sign dhanu. Let say it is 27.5 years. This will put it around 1990 time frame. At this time the dasha running is Jupiter-Saturn. Saturn does have 17 points for 7th house, but he himself is the delay causing planet, and there are other problems in the chart for 7th house so the marriage may not happen in his anatra. The next anatara is of marcury, who is LoD, so eager to give the result. However Mercury only has 9 points in the WS for 7th house. As you have mentioned that he is happily married,I will ignore the mercury anatara. So the marriage must have happened in the Jupiter-Venus period on Dec 18, 1996. Venus is LoE. I am not sure why Ketu anatara did not give marriage, as it is samadharmi to Venus. Satish P.S. Why mercury did not give marriage? If I did not know he was happily married, I would have gone with mercury anatara. krushana Jugal <krushana (AT) gmail (DOT) com>astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, July 25, 2008 1:43:13 PM[astrologyandtiming events] Quitz Dear Students Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also give your justification for the same. Gender: Male DOB 7th Oct 1963 TOB 22:50 Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40 IST He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with Children. This is the chart for: (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years) (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years) © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age) Probable date of marriagte: (1) 18th Sept 1985 (2) 24th Sept 1988 (3) 18th Dec 1996 Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer they should give proper reasoning. Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008. thanks and best of Luck krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Respected krushnaji It is my maiden post in this group since my joinining 1 or 2 months back. I have confined my self in KAS system as it have definite scientific approach. If my understanding on KAS is wrong - please, let me know. Answer: Date of Marriage is optin 2- 24th Sept 1988. Reason: Focusing 7th House as 'B'. Delay factor - Moderate 1. Aspect of Saturn on A (2nd. House) 2. Aspect of Saturn on Jupiter (7th. House lord) 3. In Navamsa - Mars & Rahu are in 7th and auspected by Saturn. 4. In Navamsa - 7th. Hs. lord Venus is in 12th and auspected by Saurn. 5. 7th. Hs. total pts.-19 Timing: Mode - 7th Hs. Work Sheet. Strengths Planet Points Rank & LD Ve 26 1 - E/ To be Judged Ju 20 2 - B/ To be Judged Sa 17 3 /will not deliver the result /Dassa not operative Ma 16 4 - C/ can not be considered due to relationship with Saturn & 1pt. contribution in 7th. Hs. Mo 13 5 - A/will not deliver the result -AV=2/Dassa not operative. Me 9 6 - D/ will not deliver the result Su 6 7 - will not deliver the result Date Dasa- (1) 18th Sept 1985 - Rahu+Sun -can not be considered due to lowest pt of Sun. (2) 24th Sept 1988 - Jupiter+jupiter - Basic AV strength is same to Venus and strong signifactor for 7th house. (3) 18th Dec 1996 - Jupiter+venus- NK (Venus) inspite of it's AV power will not deliver the result as it is with Mars & mutual position of NK and 7th lord is 6:8. With thanks. - brc , " krushana Jugal " <krushana wrote: > > Dear Students > > Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart > with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also > give your justification for the same. > Gender: Male > DOB 7th Oct 1963 > TOB 22:50 > Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40 > IST > > He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with > Children. > > This is the chart for: > > (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years) > > (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years) > > © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age) > > > > Probable date of marriagte: > > (1) 18th Sept 1985 > > (2) 24th Sept 1988 > > (3) 18th Dec 1996 > > Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer > they should give proper reasoning. > Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008. > > thanks and best of Luck > krushna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Dear respected krushnaji ,1) the quitz jatak, was born under gemini lagna , taurus moon rashi.2) the 7th lord---LoB--is jupiter, was retrogade---vakri --at the birth time . jupiter is also the saptamesha , markesha , badhakesha for mithun lagna.3) jupiter is having 6 points in the 10th house and is aspecting the 2nd house--A , the 4th house---D , and the black hole house 6th.4) retrogade shani sitting in the eighth house is aspecting loB --JUPITER , the 2nd house----A , and mars the 6th lord . 5) MARS is the 6th lord + LoC. mars is aspecting shani , house C ,house E and the loA--MOON . if you study the chart from moon , mars is the 7th lord sitting in the 6th house,, with the 6th lord ..6) on a/c of above positions of planets shani + jupiter + mars ? have delayed the marriage substantially..7) the 7th house is having only 19 points---SAV and leaving aside SUN, all other six planets are eligible to give marriage . 8) 18 / 09 / 1985 shani was in scorpio--6th house , jupiter was in 8th under shanis 3rd aspect and venus--mercury--mars--in leo 3rd house . because of mars--venus together in original chart + transit , jatak might hv developed relationship which could not materalise on a/c of shani--mangal kendra yoga or 4 --10 in birth chart as well as in 1985.9) in 1988-(24--09--1988 ) shani was sitting in house B and guru was in house E both were aspecting the house D .10)- approximately shanis delay will be 30 yrs -6 months. it has to cross the 8th house . hence till 1994 marriage could not take place.11) initial jupiter is in 10th house and it will be in the 7th house around the age of 10--11, 21-22 , 33--34 . at 10 marriage was not possible rahu--rahu, rahu-guru .at the age of 25 shani and jupiter delays were not over 12) After 33 years-jupiter's delay was getting over.Hence in jupiter mahadasha -venus antra, the marriage must have taken place.13) venus is the 5th lord--which can give results for eight and 12th (E)house. It is also 12th lord which can give result for the 3rd house and 7th house (B). 14) In ju-Me,Ju-Ke dashas,the Ju delay was not over- hence not considered. 15) Normallly in India there are no "marriage timings" (Muharta's) From Mahalaya----- Bhadrapada---krishnapaksha------- to Tulsi's marriage day i.e. untill Sun enters the Scorpio-sign. Hence if marriage has taken place in India, most likely it would be in December and not Septeber.16)Hence from various above points Delayed Marriage and Decmber 1996 becomes the logical choice. Transit SUN enters into Dhanu Rashi on 15th Dec-----in Ketu nakshtra. Ketu is located in house B and it is in Nakshatra of Venus ---which is LOE We have made an attempt to solve the Quitz . Hope we are on the correct track. with regards, Deepak & Dinesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Dear Guru Ji and Members,This is my first attempt using KAS principle ,please forgive if any error or misunderstanding the system by me.Guruji given green signal to use any system ,so i used different systems to arrive conclusion (but I used only KAS principle)First Positive point:-Lagna is Gemini and Sa in more sectors so he is very intelligent person with photography memory.Coming to marriage Analyzing Sat Delay Focus 7th house -Sat is aspecting House A,LoB and LoC so it is causing full delay of the marriage Jupiter Delay Jupiter is aspects house A, and Jup itself LoB Pisces Jupiter bindus is 6 so it aspects malefic ally house A,Sagittarius Jupiter bindus is 5 so it is good for house B So Jupiter is not causing full delay How long Sat delay In the natal chart Sat is at speed of 0 .045degree/day and sat position is 24Cp9 So 30-24degree=6 degree to reach next sign =6/0.045 =approx 4.5 months (to reach next sign) We know Sat delay get over when sat transit 0degree of Sagittarius, 10 sign X2.5 yearsTotal delay =10X2.5 years =25 years +4.5 months Total delay =25 years 4 months 15 days Date of birth =07/10/1963 +25 -4-15 days Delay period over on 23-02-1989(Approx) Timing of eventAs per above delay period gets over on 23/02/1989 so I eliminate two options # 1 and #2 Now i go to third option 18-dec-1996At the time period ,Jupiter –Venus was running Sub Period lord is Venus is LoE for focus 7th house-it is eager to give the result in this periodPDFJupiter-KetuKetu represent Venus (2nd highest point)and mars(1st highest point)(Navamsa depositor)-Jupiter is third higher point Cross verification with Tajika chart Annual chart for 1996 -(using KAS Principle)(Used KAY)Tajaka annual-1996October 7, 1996Time: 9:52:36Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 74 E 40' 00", 16 N 26' 00"Find below the planet position for above time and date.As 9 Sc 13 Anuradha Sa ViSu 21 Vi 16 Hasta Mo CnMo 20 Cn 30 Aslesha Me CpMa 23 Cn 47 Aslesha Me AqMe 4 Vi 15 U.Phalguni Su AqJu 16 Sg 39 P.Asadha Ve LeVe 10 Le 37 Makha Ke CnSaR 10 Pi 15 U.Bhadrapada Sa LiRa 14 Vi 41 Hasta Mo TaKe 14 Pi 41 U.Bhadrapada Sa Sc7th house power Sa 38 Ju 24 Me 20 Su 19 Mo 14 Ve 14 Ma 9 Period-Vimsottari Dasa(Annual chart 1996) Sun MD: 1996-12-02 (15:04:42) - 1996-12-20 (8:00:48)-- Ven AD: 1996-12-17 (9:16:53) - 1996-12-20 (8:00:48)Period running during above was Sun-VenusVenus is LoE of focus 7th house for annual chart PDF(Annual Chart 1996)Jupiter-KetuJupiter is second highest power for 2nd house and Ketu is Saturn Star(1st highest power) for focus 7th house(Annual Chart).I go for option #3.RegardsPrasanna.G , "krushana Jugal" <krushana wrote:>> Dear Students> > Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart> with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also> give your justification for the same.> Gender: Male> DOB 7th Oct 1963> TOB 22:50> Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40> IST> > He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with> Children.> > This is the chart for:> > (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years)> > (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years)> > © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age)> > > > Probable date of marriagte:> > (1) 18th Sept 1985> > (2) 24th Sept 1988> > (3) 18th Dec 1996> > Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer> they should give proper reasoning.> Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008.> > thanks and best of Luck> krushna> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 , " krushana Jugal " <krushana wrote: Respected Krushnaji, in the chart given, there is delay by saturn. there is no delay by jupiter as it is with 6 points and owns 7th house. venus is not spoilt even though it is with mars and aspected by saturn. from the choices given i would go for option 2. as saturn delay gets over as it enters the sign preceding to where its placed. jupiter antra is running at that time as is strong for 5,7 and 12 houses and even for 2nd house. so i would go for the second option. 24th sept 1988. thanks/regards harjeet > > Dear Students > > Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart > with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also > give your justification for the same. > Gender: Male > DOB 7th Oct 1963 > TOB 22:50 > Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40 > IST > > He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with > Children. > > This is the chart for: > > (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years) > > (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years) > > © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age) > > > > Probable date of marriagte: > > (1) 18th Sept 1985 > > (2) 24th Sept 1988 > > (3) 18th Dec 1996 > > Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer > they should give proper reasoning. > Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008. > > thanks and best of Luck > krushna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Respected Guru ji, Follwing is my attempt: I am getting ascedent as : - As 5 Ge 23 Mrigashira Ma Sc Lagna SAV is 31, while in 7 House is 19, thereby a difference of 12 , which is quite big and will have an impact on the understanding with partner ( Spouse). Sa is in " Four (4) divisons of D9/D3 and D30, indicating sharp intelleigenc / photographic memory. 7th Lord from Lagna, Sun and Moon signs are Me : Ju ( 1:7) - 10 pts, Me : Ju ( 1:7) - 10 pts, Ve: Ma ( 1:1,but more than 15 degrees therfore will be treated as 2:12) - 5 pts, - A Total of 25 points , indicating many disputes and difference in opinions in Marriage. Delay factor by Saturn : - Sa aspects - A (House 2) and LoB ( 7th Lord- Ju) in Rashi Chart and LoC ( 11th Lord - Mars) in Navamsha Chart , thereby a full delay by Sat. Sat is at 24Cp 10 therfore delay will be over when Sa will come to 0 degree of Sg . i.e. 27.5 yrs - 24 month ( 2 yrs) = 25 yrs & 6 months i,.e. after around 07 April 1989. Delay factor by Ju : - Ju aspects - A (House 2) and LoB ( 7th Lord- Ju). Iam not sure about Ju being LoB causes a delay or not ???/ Sun to Ve distance is around 10 degree - OK. But Ve is affected by Sa ( 10th Aspects) and Mars ( same sign), thereby spoilt by these two malefics ( Sa & Ma). Blessings :- Lagna Lord and 9th Lord i.e. Me and Sa 5:9 , meaning a "Full Blessings" and all the delays ( as stated above) will be nullified and marriage can happen in the " Very First Suitable ( after 21 yrs) Antardasa". This is the chart for:> > (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years) on 18 September 1985 - Ra Mahadasa and Su Antardasa ( 3rd sector) was running. Ra is representing Me / Ju, more like to Ju . Su is SD to Me , and Me is LoD. The PDF on that day Sun was in Me - Sun ( Me has 9 points and Su has 6 points) do not have "HIGH" points ( Not very Confident as Sun must travel in the sign / nakshtra of High points in SAV Chart). However , Sun antaradsa ( being SD to Me, who is LoD) in 3rd sector ( Because of delay by Sa) can give the marriage. Also, being not a happy marriage ( because of 25 points on L:7; Moon:7th Lord and Sun:7th Lord), it can happen in Sun antardasa ( low points of 6 ) Guruji, please, correct me, if I did not apply KAS rules / laws correctly. With Regards. Sanjiva Sharma , "krushana Jugal" <krushana wrote:>> Dear Students> > Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart> with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also> give your justification for the same.> Gender: Male> DOB 7th Oct 1963> TOB 22:50> Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40> IST> > He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with> Children.> > This is the chart for:> > (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years)> > (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years)> > © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age)> > > > Probable date of marriagte:> > (1) 18th Sept 1985> > (2) 24th Sept 1988> > (3) 18th Dec 1996> > Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer> they should give proper reasoning.> Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008.> > thanks and best of Luck> krushna> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 31.07.2008 Dear Sh. Krushna Ji Sir & Group members, I have attempted the marriage quiz floated by Sh. Guruji and my analysis is as follows; Quiz: marriage date of Male native, 07.10.1963, 22:50 hrs, 16.26.N, 74.40 E Description of the chart: Ascendant Gemini of 5 deg. 23 mins having Rahu in it. Moon sign Taurus (12th house), Sun sign Virgo (4th house, containing Mercury also), Venus & Mars are together in the Libra sign (5th house), Jupiter is in own sign Pieces (10th house, Saturn is in own sign Capricorn (8th house) and Ketu is in Sagittarius (7th house). Initial observations made: 1. There are no Zeros in either the natal chart or in the D9 2. The SAV points in the 1st house of Natal chart are 31 3. Checked Jupiter. It is not in the Venus sign. 4. Checked distance between Sun & Venus. It is more than 3 deg and less than 43 degrees. 5. Looked at the SAV points of the house containing the Moon. They are 23 6. Observed Venus. It is placed with Mars. It is making 4:10 relationship with Saturn. It is seen by Saturn by the 10th aspect. Venus has 4 BAV points for the 5th house it is situated in and Saturn has only 1 point for the 8th house it is situated in. 7. Checked whether Jupiter aspects Saturn. No, Jupiter does not aspects Saturn in both D1 & D9 charts. On the contrary Saturn aspects Jupiter (3rd aspect) in D1 chart. Evaluation if at all there is a marriage delay indicated in the chart: Considering B=house 7, A=2nd house, C= 11th house, D=4th house, E=12th house. 1. Delay observed because Saturn is aspecting house A (7th aspect). Saturn is neither LOD nor LOE for B=7th house. 2. Secondly Saturn has low points (1 point) in the 8th house it is placed in. It is 10th from House C (11th house) and so because it has low points (< 4) it controls the 11th house (House C when B=7). So Saturn causes a full delay. There is no reduction in this delay as Jupiter is not aspecting Saturn. Now we evaluate if there is any delay due to Jupiter. 1. Checked if Jupiter is in any of the Nakshatra of Saturn. No it is not. 2. Checked the sign in which Jupiter is placed. It is in Saturn’s sign in D9 chart. So there is some delay caused by Jupiter also. 3. Checked the relationship between 1st & 9th lords (Me & Sa). They are in 5:9 a relationship. So in a way the delay is being nullified here because the native has the blessings of his father. Now the question is whether the delay by both Ju & Sa are being totally nullified by this 5:9 relationship. I would judge and say here ‘No’. The reasons are as follows; The chart indicates love affairs but the affair did not lead to marriage because; i) Saturn has 10th aspect on the association of Mars & Venus. ii) The lord of the 6th house (Mars) is associated in the combination. Thirdly Sun has low points for the 7th house when seen from Asc (though it has high points from both Moon chart & Sun chart). So the native would not be living a happy married life had he got married on 18th Sept 1985 during which time he was under the AD of Sun. If Sun AD would have given marriage negating the other derivations then it should have given in the 1st sector of Sun AD. On 18th Sept 1985 the native was passing through the 3rd sector of Sun AD. Lastly the aspect of Saturn on the association of Mars & Venus itself causes delay in marriage. So I would say that inspite of Father’s blessings the marriage did not take place early in life(the love affair did not culminate into marriage in 1985). It is mentioned in the question that the native is living a happy married life, so the question of marriage in Su AD is ruled out (low points for 7th house from Asc). Because of the above delay factors and other derivations as done above OUT OF THE 3 OPTIONS, THE OPTION 1 DATE 18th Sept 1985 (early marriage) IS RULED OUT. The next date in the options is 24th Sept 1988 (AD of Ju in the MD of Ju). Jupiter is already causing delay as explained above. It is also aspecting House A. So the likelihood of marriage in its AD is also ruled out. Also Ju is LOB in this chart. Further evaluation of the 7th house: The NK=Ve, FK=Mo; LOD = Me, LOE = Ve Being LOE for 7th house and also the significator of the 7th house ( Ve has highest points for 7th house) the chances of marriage of this native in the AD of Ve were always high. On 18th Dec 1996 this native was passing through the AD of Ve.(1st sector). Ve is NK for 7th house from all the three ie. from Asc, from Sun and from Moon chart. It is also LOE fro 12th from Asc (bed comforts). Marriage in sector 1 of the AD is justified as there are no zeros in the chart. So the final answer of the quiz is that the native got married on 18th Dec 1996. (Please pardon me for the length of the reply. I wrote everything what I derived step-wise) Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 krushana Jugal wrote : >Dear Students > > Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart >with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also >give your justification for the same. >Gender: Male >DOB 7th Oct 1963 >TOB 22:50 >Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40 >IST > > He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with >Children. > >This is the chart for: > > (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years) > > (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years) > > © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age) > > > >Probable date of marriagte: > >(1) 18th Sept 1985 > >(2) 24th Sept 1988 > >(3) 18th Dec 1996 > > Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer >they should give proper reasoning. >Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008. > >thanks and best of Luck >krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Dear Guru Ji, Ash & Friends, I am attempting this quiz. Pls correct me. Lagna is 5Ge23. TThe first house has 31 SAV points and 7th has 19 points. Also in Navamsha Ist has 32 points and 7th has 27 points. So the native is a dominating personality both outworldly and inwardly. The relationship between Ist & 7th from Lagna , Moon and Sun are 1:7 , 2:12( ven & Mars has more than 15 degree difference) and 1:7th. So the diffrence of opinion between husband and wife will be there. Lagna, sun and Moon is falling there in 4 divisions of sat in D3,D9 and D30 charts. This person is higly intelligent and has a good memory . This guy knows how to act smart, where ever needed. Just to check Imp. rules for happy marriage life. Jup is not in Libra , Sun to ven distance is Ok. The FK moon has gone to 12th and sitting 11tth position( Upachya Position ) from its own house. So its good. But it has a little malefic aspect of 6th lord Mars. Mars is also sitting with Ven , NK. But distance between them is more than 15 degrees. There is no Zeros in the chart. Which is very good. This person has a blessing in the chart , because Ist and 9th lord are sitting in 5:9 position. Which would always help him in any troubled situation. Now this chart has a delay because of sat . Sat aspect LOB , LOC in rashi chart and is sitting with LOA in Navamsha. Sat also aspect house A in Rashi and House B in Navamsha. Now Jup delay is also there , JUp is LOB and is aspecting House A too. Jup is also aspecting 7th house in Navamsha. Navamsha and Rahi charts have same status. Jup is in saturns Navamsha and is not aspecting sat in both charts. So there is a full delay. So a person cannot get married till 1990 end. Sat cannot give result because it is aspecting House A. Next is Mer antra ,, Mer has low points in the WS. Ket is acting Jup / Ven . It would act more like jup. Jup is aspecting Housee A. Then comes the ven . This is a good candidate to give marriage . It has highest 26 points in the WS. Also It is LOE . So it can give result in the first sector. Also if we take PDF , sun was in sag and in the NKT of Ket , which is JUP/Ven. So the marriage can take place on 18 Dec , 1996. It was a good Mahurata too because Moon was in Pisces which is upachaya position from natal position of Moon. Pls correct me and give inputs. Thanks & Regards, Raj --- On Fri, 7/25/08, krushana Jugal <krushana wrote: krushana Jugal <krushana Quitz Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 11:13 PM Dear Students Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also give your justification for the same. Gender: Male DOB 7th Oct 1963 TOB 22:50 Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40 IST He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with Children. This is the chart for: (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years) (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years) © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age) Probable date of marriagte: (1) 18th Sept 1985 (2) 24th Sept 1988 (3) 18th Dec 1996 Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer they should give proper reasoning. Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008. thanks and best of Luck krushna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Dear Students, Yes the person in quitz no one have married on 18th Dec 1996. Congratulations to all who find correct answer and bravo to those who attempted. Thanks krushna , " krushana Jugal " <krushana wrote: > > Dear Students > > Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart > with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also > give your justification for the same. > Gender: Male > DOB 7th Oct 1963 > TOB 22:50 > Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40 > IST > > He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with > Children. > > This is the chart for: > > (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years) > > (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years) > > © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age) > > > > Probable date of marriagte: > > (1) 18th Sept 1985 > > (2) 24th Sept 1988 > > (3) 18th Dec 1996 > > Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer > they should give proper reasoning. > Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008. > > thanks and best of Luck > krushna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Krushnaji, Although I got the quiz right, I am not sure if the date in 1996 was not given, whether I would have gotten the exact date. Could you explain why marriage did not happen in ketu antara? or mercury anatara ( mercury had < 12 points but was loD) If we did not know that the marrige was not trouble would Mercury antara be selected for the event? There are afflictions to the 7th house. Thanks Satish Jugal Kalani <krushana Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 7:25:36 PM Re: Quitz Dear Students,Yes the person in quitz no one have married on 18th Dec 1996.Congratulations to all who find correct answer and bravo to those who attempted. Thankskrushnaastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "krushana Jugal" <krushana@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Students> > Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart> with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also> give your justification for the same.> Gender: Male> DOB 7th Oct 1963> TOB 22:50> Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40> IST> > He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with> Children.> > This is the chart for:> > (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years)> > (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years)> > © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age)> > > > Probable date of marriagte:> > (1) 18th Sept 1985> > (2) 24th Sept 1988> > (3) 18th Dec 1996> > Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer> they should give proper reasoning.> Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008.> > thanks and best of Luck> krushna> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Dear Satish and all members, Yes as per WS we get the strength of the planets. Same way we can get the delay period too. So our job is to match the same. Yes this job requires more and more practice. This also depends upon the Desh Kaal and Patra factors too. For India Our laws fits more perfectly. If we solve for a newly born child then we may face some more problems. Calculations in such case requires more practice. Yes in such case we can give few probale dates. But when a person or father comes to you with a chart of his son or daughter, asking for marriage date? Yes Only when already it is delayed. So that gives us better idea. We can predict correct date. Is it not? As per RDF we can get three four probable dates in a antra. In India some of the dates can easily be delated, as there is no Vivah Muhurt. (Deepak Chippalkatti used this criteria in his answer) So with the help of other informations from the person we can come to pin point date. Lastly I can say solve more and more charts and I think one can come to correct date. Thanks krushna , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Krushnaji, > Although I got the quiz right, I am not sure if the date in 1996 was not given, whether I would have gotten the exact date. > Could you explain why marriage did not happen in ketu antara? or mercury anatara ( mercury had < 12 points but was loD) > If we did not know that the marrige was not trouble would Mercury antara be selected for the event? There are afflictions to the 7th house. > Thanks > Satish > > > > > Jugal Kalani <krushana > > Saturday, August 2, 2008 7:25:36 PM > Re: Quitz > > > Dear Students, > Yes the person in quitz no one have married on 18th Dec 1996. > Congratulations to all who find correct answer and bravo to those who > attempted. > Thanks > krushna > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " krushana Jugal " > <krushana@ .> wrote: > > > > Dear Students > > > > Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the > chart > > with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. > Please also > > give your justification for the same. > > Gender: Male > > DOB 7th Oct 1963 > > TOB 22:50 > > Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40 > > IST > > > > He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with > > Children. > > > > This is the chart for: > > > > (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years) > > > > (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years) > > > > © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age) > > > > > > > > Probable date of marriagte: > > > > (1) 18th Sept 1985 > > > > (2) 24th Sept 1988 > > > > (3) 18th Dec 1996 > > > > Members are free to use any system they like. But for > every answer > > they should give proper reasoning. > > Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008. > > > > thanks and best of Luck > > krushna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 respected Sri krushanji, I submit my analysis based on the traditional astrology The lagna is Gemini with rahu deposited Mercury and sun are in Virgo,Venus and Mars in Libra, Ketu in sagitarius,sat in capricorn and jupiter in Pisc, Veenus, jupiter and sat are in their own houses, Venus is vargottama Moon is exalted in tarus. Venus the karaka for marriage is in his own housw . saturn aspects Jupiter, the second house and venus. Mars aspects moon , Jupiter aspects second house, mercury in virgo and 6th house. Lahna having Rahu and aspected by Ketu. For marriage the 2nd, 4th ,7th and 9th and 10th houses are considered. The lagna lord is in own house virgo in 4th house but combust. The 7th lord is jupiter and placed in own house(10th from lagna but has aspect of saturn so there will be delay in marriage.Venus who is kalatra karaka is in own house but conjunct with mars and has aspect of saturn. The marriage will be given by Jupiter in his mahadasa from May 1988 to May 2004. The subperiods of jupiter, saturn mercury and ketu cannot give the benifit as discribed above. The most likely date is 18th Dec 1996 in Jupiter/Venus/mer period IAs the time given to answer the quiz was given as 2nd September i wanted to answer it using the KAs concepts . with regards krishnajee , " krushana Jugal " <krushana wrote: > > Dear Students > > Here with I am giving a chart of a Male. Please Solve the chart > with Kas laws, and select proper answer from the options given. Please also > give your justification for the same. > Gender: Male > DOB 7th Oct 1963 > TOB 22:50 > Place of Birth: 16:N:26, 074:E:40 > IST > > He is married and is having happy narried life. Blessed with > Children. > > This is the chart for: > > (A) Early marriage: (at the age near about 21 years) > > (B) Medium dealy: (at the near about 25 years) > > © Delayed marriage (after 27.5 yrs age) > > > > Probable date of marriagte: > > (1) 18th Sept 1985 > > (2) 24th Sept 1988 > > (3) 18th Dec 1996 > > Members are free to use any system they like. But for every answer > they should give proper reasoning. > Students are requested to answer on or before 2nd sept 2008. > > thanks and best of Luck > krushna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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