Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 17.09.2008 ANALYSIS OF A CHART OF NONMARITAL STATUS Dear KAS Members, Few days back I was contacted by a person who wanted to know why he could not get married inspite of crossing 50 years age and if there are any chances in near future. I analyzed his chart as per KAS and I am reproducing the analysis with my result to all the members here to get inputs from all of you. CHART : Male, 23.03.1958, 19:05 hrs, 26.N.18, 73.E.08, India, KAY 22:22:49 ; ASC: 14.Vi.17 ANALYSIS: Since the native told me he is unmarried inspite of crossing 50 years of age, so I first checked compliance with the laws related to the non-marital status. 1. I first checked his Ve (Venus). Ve is NK for the 7th house (this is for all natives) and in this chart it is also the FK. Ve is also NK for the 12th house (bed comforts). 2. From Moon chart also Ve is both FK & NK for both 7th as well as 12th houses. So I checked how the Venus in this chart is. 3. Distance between Ve and Su is 45 degrees 9 mins ie more than 43 deg 20 mins and this causes problem in marriage taking place. Ve has therefore lost its nature here and has become malefic particularly for marriage. Thus the karak for marriage is spoilt. 4. Then I went to observe the Jupiter. Here Ju is placed in Libra and when it happens, particularly in 2nd & 7th houses it greatly reduces the marriage possibilities. Ju here is placed in 2nd house with high points (6 bindus). Thus Ju will refrain from giving marriage and it is also the lord of focus house B sitting in house A. Ju aspects house A in Navansh. 5. In this chart Ve is already spoilt for marriage and at the same time Ve is not controlled by any planet. Ju is 10th from it (Ve is 4th from Ju), but Ju has more points (6) than Ve (4). So Ju has no control over Ve. 6. Ju also does not have any control over Ma (3 points). 7. Moon (Mo) is afflicted by Rahu and therefore due to some or the other reason the native (who otherwise is intelligent & healthy) could never approve of any girl for marriage. The above reasons prevented marriage for the native. The chart also shows combinations of having love affairs, such as; i) Ve & Ma are together in 5th house. ii) The strongest significator for 7th house ie Ma is placed in 5th house. iii) The strongest significator of 7th house Ma is SD to 5th lord (Sa is in Aries in Navansh). iv) Lord of 4th & lord of 2nd (Ju & Ve) are 5:9 in Navansh. But the affairs (more than 1) could not culminate into marriage inspite of Ju & strongest significator Ma in 4:10 relationship because Ju has more points than Ma and is therefore not controlling the strongest significator. I informed the native this analysis and also extracted innermost reasons for his not approving any girl till date inspite of several proposals. The reason he told me were so small & irrelevant that it seems that the affliction of Moon by Rahu has played a big role in his case (mostly the irrelevant issues were cropped up by his parents & not by he himself, but he simply agreed to his parents all the time). I could not analyze the reasons for this. I went on to find if there are any more possibilities left for his marriage. He is right now under the AD of Me (until May 2010). Me is placed in the 7th house with 4 points. In its AD it can give the results of 10th & 2nd house (4th & 8th from it). The 2nd house is house A for marriage. But Me has only of 4 points and not more. So chances are weak. From Sun chart Me is FK for 12th (bed comforts) and LoD for 7th. At the same time Me is L12 for 7th house from Moon chart. So I told this native that: a) Your chances of marriage are very remote in near future mostly because your Venus is spoilt and more so because your chart does not show ‘bed comforts’ from marriage. b) The existing AD of Me has very less chances of giving marriage and that also does not guarantee bed comforts. Dear KAS members, I would like you to check my analysis and put in your thoughts at the various steps. Nikhlesh Mathur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Dear Nikhilesh Ji The reasons I feel is that 1) None of the planet is having BAV more than 4 in 7th house. 2) His 1st house has 31 points and 7th house has 22 points, which make him a stubborn, uncompromising and of dominating nature. 3) His 3:6:10:11 which is fluctuating shows him more income with less hard work. (I dont know whether this counts as a reason). Also these houses from 7th house are not good. 4) If we see 12th house as house B, Sa is in house C which will delay marriage. 5) In lesson 24 : (i) Venus and Sun are more than 43 degrees apart and there are less points given to Venus for the 1st and 7th house. (ii) If Jupiter in Libra has more points, there is a possibility of no marriage. If such a Jupiter is in 2nd house, there is even less of a possibility. (iii) If the lord if 1st house is situated in 7th house with less point, then there will be no marriage. (this is half of the point given by Guruji. So I doubt if this point can be taken into account).(also refer Msg 3033) 6) 5th house has spoiled Venus in Mars nakshatra with Mars 7) Since this Venus is with Mars, and Mo in Venus(spoiled) nakshatra with Ketu, so the native is more for physical contact. Though Saturn is not connected but maybe Ve & Ma being in Capricorn counts. 8) The Karaka Venus lord of house A is itself spoiled. 9) The totals of A, B, C for D1 and D9 are less than 84 for both 1st and 7th houses. When there is less points in any house less then 84, means the person will not get full happiness for that house. (Msg 3505) 10) When the lord of the 6th house is placed in the houses D and E (for the house B it is aspecting), gives bad results. Here Saturn, 6th lord is in 4th house(house D). 11) Lagna lord & 7th lord Me:Ju is in 6:8 position; Moon lord & 7th lord from it Ma:Ve is in the same house; Could you confirm whether the following has come true in this person's life? IMP: When any planet situated in 2nd house with more points, such person should not misplay with the money matters, or should not take bribe, or should not use others money. Such things generally came out in the sub of 9th lord or 5th lord. Person have to suffer for the same. (Msg 3902) Please could Guruji/Ash ji/ anyone else clear the following doubts: Moon in the sign or navamansha of Mars, gives more hard work. (Refer Msg 3251) In this case, Moon is in Mars sign means it gives more hard work. But 10th house in comparison to 11th house is less – does that mean the native is working hard but his income is more than what he deserves. Or does Moon with Rahu spoil the effect of hard work. Thanks Prabha , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > > 17.09.2008 > > ANALYSIS OF A CHART OF NONMARITAL STATUS > > Dear KAS Members, > > Few days back I was contacted by a person who wanted to know why he could not get married inspite of crossing 50 years age and if there are any chances in near future. > > I analyzed his chart as per KAS and I am reproducing the analysis with my result to all the members here to get inputs from all of you. > > CHART : Male, 23.03.1958, 19:05 hrs, 26.N.18, 73.E.08, India, KAY 22:22:49 ; ASC: 14.Vi.17 > > ANALYSIS: > > Since the native told me he is unmarried inspite of crossing 50 years of age, so I first checked compliance with the laws related to the non-marital status. > > 1. I first checked his Ve (Venus). Ve is NK for the 7th house (this is for all natives) and in this chart it is also the FK. Ve is also NK for the 12th house (bed comforts). > > 2. From Moon chart also Ve is both FK & NK for both 7th as well as 12th houses. So I checked how the Venus in this chart is. > > 3. Distance between Ve and Su is 45 degrees 9 mins ie more than 43 deg 20 mins and this causes problem in marriage taking place. Ve has therefore lost its nature here and has become malefic particularly for marriage. Thus the karak for marriage is spoilt. > > 4. Then I went to observe the Jupiter. Here Ju is placed in Libra and when it happens, particularly in 2nd & 7th houses it greatly reduces the marriage possibilities. Ju here is placed in 2nd house with high points (6 bindus). Thus Ju will refrain from giving marriage and it is also the lord of focus house B sitting in house A. Ju aspects house A in Navansh. > > 5. In this chart Ve is already spoilt for marriage and at the same time Ve is not controlled by any planet. Ju is 10th from it (Ve is 4th from Ju), but Ju has more points (6) than Ve (4). So Ju has no control over Ve. > > 6. Ju also does not have any control over Ma (3 points). > > 7. Moon (Mo) is afflicted by Rahu and therefore due to some or the other reason the native (who otherwise is intelligent & healthy) could never approve of any girl for marriage. > > The above reasons prevented marriage for the native. > > The chart also shows combinations of having love affairs, such as; > i) Ve & Ma are together in 5th house. > > ii) The strongest significator for 7th house ie Ma is placed in 5th house. > > iii) The strongest significator of 7th house Ma is SD to 5th lord (Sa is in Aries in Navansh). > > iv) Lord of 4th & lord of 2nd (Ju & Ve) are 5:9 in Navansh. > > But the affairs (more than 1) could not culminate into marriage inspite of Ju & strongest significator Ma in 4:10 relationship because Ju has more points than Ma and is therefore not controlling the strongest significator. > > I informed the native this analysis and also extracted innermost reasons for his not approving any girl till date inspite of several proposals. The reason he told me were so small & irrelevant that it seems that the affliction of Moon by Rahu has played a big role in his case (mostly the irrelevant issues were cropped up by his parents & not by he himself, but he simply agreed to his parents all the time). I could not analyze the reasons for this. > > I went on to find if there are any more possibilities left for his marriage. > > He is right now under the AD of Me (until May 2010). Me is placed in the 7th house with 4 points. In its AD it can give the results of 10th & 2nd house (4th & 8th from it). The 2nd house is house A for marriage. But Me has only of 4 points and not more. So chances are weak. > From Sun chart Me is FK for 12th (bed comforts) and LoD for 7th. At the same time Me is L12 for 7th house from Moon chart. > > So I told this native that: > > a) Your chances of marriage are very remote in near future mostly because your Venus is spoilt and more so because your chart does not show `bed comforts' from marriage. > b) The existing AD of Me has very less chances of giving marriage and that also does not guarantee bed comforts. > > Dear KAS members, I would like you to check my analysis and put in your thoughts at the various steps. > > Nikhlesh Mathur > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 18.08.2008 Non Marital case study Chart : Male, 23.03.1958, 19:05 hrs, 26.N.18, 73.E.08, India, KAY 22:22:49 ; ASC: 14.Vi.17 Dear Prabha ji, Thanks for taking up the chart for analysis. My reply to some of your queries are as follows; 1. We are dealing here with the case where marriage has yet not taken place of a male native who is 50 years in age. So to begin with I have not accounted for the factors related to 'Un-happiness' in marriage. The prime concern is that he is yet to get married and if at all feasible in near future then when can it be. I kept the 'Happiness / Un-happiness factor totally away as we are at the moment NOT concerned with the quality of married life, if at all marriage takes place. We are concerned with the question as to why the marriage did not happen & can it happen in near future. The difference in points of 1st house & 7th house, low BAV points of planets in 7th house, fluctuating points of 3,6,10,11 houses, Lagna lord versus 7th lord as 6:8, some factors relating to delay of marriage - all these are neccesary for judging the quality of married life and not for analyzing why the marriege did not take place. I hope I am correct here. I need the guidance of the seniors here. 2. You have asked me to confirm some aspects in this native's life. This native does NOT have big money, his earnings are not much, he is in the education line, he is working at a place where there is not even a remotest chance of taking bribe. He is very carefull in handling his money. He spends very intelligently and is quite a down to earth man. 3. The thing which I could not astrologically analyze is that why he kept himself behind his parents all these years and dis-approved all proposals whom his parents did not approve of. After speaking to him in person at length, I could figure out that he stubbornly followed his parents in context to marriage proposals. Apart from marriage proposals he is not a staunch follower of his parents in other matters of life. He did not cite any reasons for this but he say's he too saw same problems in all proposals which his parents saw. I also wanted you & all to analyze if there is any scope left for his marriage. Prabha ji,I appreciate your taking up the chart & analyzing it from other angles. Your analysis is definitely useful. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 prabha.acharya wrote : >Dear Nikhilesh Ji >The reasons I feel is that >1) None of the planet is having BAV more than 4 in 7th house. >2) His 1st house has 31 points and 7th house has 22 points, which make >him a stubborn, uncompromising and of dominating nature. >3) His 3:6:10:11 which is fluctuating shows him more income with less >hard work. (I dont know whether this counts as a reason). Also these >houses from 7th house are not good. >4) If we see 12th house as house B, Sa is in house C which will delay >marriage. >5) In lesson 24 : >(i) Venus and Sun are more than 43 degrees apart and there are less >points given to Venus for the 1st and 7th house. >(ii) If Jupiter in Libra has more points, there is a possibility of no >marriage. If such a Jupiter is in 2nd house, there is even less of a >possibility. >(iii) If the lord if 1st house is situated in 7th house with less >point, then there will be no marriage. (this is half of the point >given by Guruji. So I doubt if this point can be taken into >account).(also refer Msg 3033) >6) 5th house has spoiled Venus in Mars nakshatra with Mars >7) Since this Venus is with Mars, and Mo in Venus(spoiled) nakshatra >with Ketu, so the native is more for physical contact. Though Saturn >is not connected but maybe Ve & Ma being in Capricorn counts. >8) The Karaka Venus lord of house A is itself spoiled. >9) The totals of A, B, C for D1 and D9 are less than 84 for both 1st >and 7th houses. When there is less points in any house less then 84, >means the person will not get full happiness for that house. (Msg >3505) >10) When the lord of the 6th house is placed in the houses D and E >(for the house B it is aspecting), gives bad results. Here Saturn, >6th lord is in 4th house(house D). >11) Lagna lord & 7th lord Me:Ju is in 6:8 position; > Moon lord & 7th lord from it Ma:Ve is in the same house; > >Could you confirm whether the following has come true in this person's >life? > IMP: When any planet situated in 2nd house with more points, such >person should not misplay with the money matters, or should not take >bribe, or should not use others money. Such things generally came out >in the sub of 9th lord or 5th lord. Person have to suffer for the >same. (Msg 3902) > > >Please could Guruji/Ash ji/ anyone else clear the following doubts: >Moon in the sign or navamansha of Mars, gives more hard work. (Refer >Msg 3251) >In this case, Moon is in Mars sign means it gives more hard work. But >10th house in comparison to 11th house is less – does that mean the >native is working hard but his income is more than what he deserves. >Or does Moon with Rahu spoil the effect of hard work. > >Thanks >Prabha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Dear Nikhlesh Ji and all, I thank you for keeping this forum alive. Nikhlesh! Are you sure about his birth time ? I did not find any valid reason in respect of this chart being unmarried except few reasons given hereunder. 1. Distance between Su and Ve is >43 so Ve the NK and FK is spoiled. Ve is with Ma also. Ve is in Leo in navamsa. But this negative attributes is cancelled because Ve is aspected by Ju in navamsa. 2.LoB Ju is strongly positioned in karaksthaan but the sign is Libra and it is with Ra. Therefore Ju is also spoiled. 3.LoC Mo is in 8th house with Ke .Therefore his mind is not stable taking decision in all area of his life. So here you might have noticed that all significators of house 7th is afflicted somehow. 4.Sa is 6th lord and positioned in house D strongly thus spoiling 4th house. It has malefic aspect on lagna. 5. 12th house in navamsa is also spoiled due to presence of two malefics viz. Ma and Sa. Su from 6th house also aspect 12th house.Thus in total there is influence of three malefics on 12th house in navamsa. 6.Now relationship between 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo. From lagna and Su it is 6/8 and that from Mo sign is 4/10. 7. SAV in lagna is 31 and 7th from lagna is 22 so difference is more. This creates egoism, stubborn quality in the native. Therefore we may arrive on the conclusion that the quality of marriage is spoiled as a whole. Once the quality is spoiled then timing may not help out. As a whole these r not the valid reasons. Because I as well you also might have come acrossed such type of charts and you might have found that the native is married. In this chart there is no delay either by Sa or Ju. On the contrary the native is blessed with Father or Guru. This combination takes place in navamsa. Therefore this person should have got marriage. That is why I asked you, " Are you sure about his birth time ? " Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra --- nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: >  18.08.2008 > Non Marital case study > Chart : Male, 23.03.1958, 19:05 hrs, 26.N.18, > 73.E.08, India, > KAY 22:22:49 ; ASC: 14.Vi.17 > > Dear Prabha ji, > Thanks for taking up the chart for > analysis. > My reply to some of your queries are as follows; > > 1. We are dealing here with the case where marriage > has yet not taken place of a male native who is 50 > years in age. So to begin with I have not accounted > for the factors related to 'Un-happiness' in > marriage. The prime concern is that he is yet to get > married and if at all feasible in near future then > when can it be. > > I kept the 'Happiness / Un-happiness factor totally > away as we are at the moment NOT concerned with the > quality of married life, if at all marriage takes > place. We are concerned with the question as to why > the marriage did not happen & can it happen in near > future. > > The difference in points of 1st house & 7th house, > low BAV points of planets in 7th house, fluctuating > points of 3,6,10,11 houses, Lagna lord versus 7th > lord as 6:8, some factors relating to delay of > marriage - all these are neccesary for judging the > quality of married life and not for analyzing why > the marriege did not take place. > I hope I am correct here. I need the guidance of the > seniors here. > > 2. You have asked me to confirm some aspects in this > native's life. This native does NOT have big money, > his earnings are not much, he is in the education > line, he is working at a place where there is not > even a remotest chance of taking bribe. He is very > carefull in handling his money. He spends very > intelligently and is quite a down to earth man. > > 3. The thing which I could not astrologically > analyze is that why he kept himself behind his > parents all these years and dis-approved all > proposals whom his parents did not approve of. After > speaking to him in person at length, I could figure > out that he stubbornly followed his parents in > context to marriage proposals. Apart from marriage > proposals he is not a staunch follower of his > parents in other matters of life. He did not cite > any reasons for this but he say's he too saw same > problems in all proposals which his parents saw. > > I also wanted you & all to analyze if there is any > scope left for his marriage. > > Prabha ji,I appreciate your taking up the chart & > analyzing it from other angles. Your analysis is > definitely useful. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 prabha.acharya wrote : > >Dear Nikhilesh Ji > >The reasons I feel is that > >1) None of the planet is having BAV more than 4 in > 7th house. > >2) His 1st house has 31 points and 7th house has 22 > points, which make > >him a stubborn, uncompromising and of dominating > nature. > >3) His 3:6:10:11 which is fluctuating shows him > more income with less > >hard work. (I dont know whether this counts as a > reason). Also these > >houses from 7th house are not good. > >4) If we see 12th house as house B, Sa is in house > C which will delay > >marriage. > >5) In lesson 24 : > >(i) Venus and Sun are more than 43 degrees apart > and there are less > >points given to Venus for the 1st and 7th house. > >(ii) If Jupiter in Libra has more points, there is > a possibility of no > >marriage. If such a Jupiter is in 2nd house, there > is even less of a > >possibility. > >(iii) If the lord if 1st house is situated in 7th > house with less > >point, then there will be no marriage. (this is > half of the point > >given by Guruji. So I doubt if this point can be > taken into > >account).(also refer Msg 3033) > >6) 5th house has spoiled Venus in Mars nakshatra > with Mars > >7) Since this Venus is with Mars, and Mo in > Venus(spoiled) nakshatra > >with Ketu, so the native is more for physical > contact. Though Saturn > >is not connected but maybe Ve & Ma being in > Capricorn counts. > >8) The Karaka Venus lord of house A is itself > spoiled. > >9) The totals of A, B, C for D1 and D9 are less > than 84 for both 1st > >and 7th houses. When there is less points in any > house less then 84, > >means the person will not get full happiness for > that house. (Msg > >3505) > >10) When the lord of the 6th house is placed in > the houses D and E > >(for the house B it is aspecting), gives bad > results. Here Saturn, > >6th lord is in 4th house(house D). > >11) Lagna lord & 7th lord Me:Ju is in 6:8 position; > > Moon lord & 7th lord from it Ma:Ve is in > the same house; > > > >Could you confirm whether the following has come > true in this person's > >life? > > IMP: When any planet situated in 2nd house with > more points, such > >person should not misplay with the money matters, > or should not take > >bribe, or should not use others money. Such things > generally came out > >in the sub of 9th lord or 5th lord. Person have to > suffer for the > >same. (Msg 3902) > > > > > >Please could Guruji/Ash ji/ anyone else clear the > following doubts: > >Moon in the sign or navamansha of Mars, gives more > hard work. (Refer > >Msg 3251) > >In this case, Moon is in Mars sign means it gives > more hard work. But > >10th house in comparison to 11th house is less – > does that mean the > >native is working hard but his income is more than > what he deserves. > >Or does Moon with Rahu spoil the effect of hard > work. > > > >Thanks > >Prabha > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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