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19.08.2008

Non Marital case study.

Chart : Male, 23.03.1958, 19:05 hrs, 26.N.18,73.E.08, India,

KAY 22:22:49 ; ASC: 14.Vi.17

 

Dear Ramesh ji,

Yes, I am pretty sure about the birth time.

 

Infact before I sat for the analysis this native’s mother spoke to me & confirmed it twice. She said his birth was related to some event occurring in the family and hence there is no confusion about it.

 

Now coming to the analysis part, I feel that the few reasons that you, Prabha ji & myself have listed are sufficient enough to give a non-marital status (ref: Lesson no. 24 titled ‘Rules for Non Marital status). More than 2 rules are complying with the stated laws and hence I feel that the analysis in context to non marital status is correct.

 

Yes, as you said Ju is aspecting the spoilt Ve in Navansh. But the Ju is of high points (6) and hence the aspect will be malefic. Therefore aspect of malefic Ju on already spoilt Ve in Navansh is not helping marriage related matters. Ju is originally in Libra and therefore it is already slated to cause trouble for marriage. I think whatever reasons we have listed are valid for the non-marital status.

However, after reading your mail, I tried to cross-check the time by some other events / happenings in his life.

 

Since I knew that this native is a school teacher, I thought of verifying it by KAS method whether his occupation is in alignment with his occupation. So I opened Lesson no. 21.

 

My analysis is as follows;

 

The 4th house is for knowledge and it is occupied by the lord of 6th house and is hence spoiled. The native was not good at studies. He could not qualify as one of the front-runners in any academic field. This is one factor which indicates that his chart is correct.

 

Then I assessed the 10th house. The 10th house does not have any planets from Asc. The 10th lord is Me which has less than 12 points for the 10th house. The 10th lord is placed in Jupiter’s sign in the Navansh. So something related to education. The native is actually a school teacher.

 

From Sun chart, the 10th lord is Jupiter and Sa which is 6th lord is placed in this sign (Pieces). Here again Jupiter is coming in force. At the same time Sa being 6th lord, is reducing the quality of the profession.

 

From Moon chart, 10th lord is Sa which itself is spoil being the 6th lord. And here 10th house has Ve & Ma. Here Ve has very high points (33 x 1.2 = 39.6).

 

It is my personal observation that Ve tends to give profession which is somewhat related to chemical substances when Ve is related to 7th or 10th house.

 

Now Ju is one of the planets associated with the native’s profession. This is in alignment with the fact that the native is a school teacher. Ju is aspecting the 10th house but since it has 6 points so it aspects with 2 points (weak aspect). Hence Ju is not much helping his profession in terms of quality of the profession. The native has a junior position in his teaching line in the school. In short his 10th house is inferior in quality.

 

I spoke to him on phone.

 

When asked what he is actually doing in the school (teaching or administration work, science or Arts subject), I was told by the native that he is infact an Assistant in the school’s Chemistry Laboratory.

 

That sums it up. I think his chart is as true as are the KAS laws.

 

My one query still remains that is why this native could never discuss out with his parents and put his feet firmly down for approving a marriage proposal. Why he remained a ‘yes’ man to his parents when he himself has always been eager to get married somehow.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

 

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

>Dear Nikhlesh Ji and all,

>I thank you for keeping this forum alive.

>Nikhlesh! Are you sure about his birth time ?

>I did not find any valid reason in respect of this

>chart being unmarried except few reasons given

>hereunder.

>1. Distance between Su and Ve is >43 so Ve the NK and

>FK is spoiled. Ve is with Ma also. Ve is in Leo in

>navamsa.

>But this negative attributes is cancelled because Ve

>is aspected by Ju in navamsa.

>2.LoB Ju is strongly positioned in karaksthaan but the

>sign is Libra and it is with Ra. Therefore Ju is also

>spoiled.

>3.LoC Mo is in 8th house with Ke .Therefore his mind

>is not stable taking decision in all area of his life.

>So here you might have noticed that all significators

>of house 7th is afflicted somehow.

>4.Sa is 6th lord and positioned in house D strongly

>thus spoiling 4th house.

>It has malefic aspect on lagna.

>5. 12th house in navamsa is also spoiled due to

>presence of two malefics viz. Ma and Sa. Su from 6th

>house also aspect 12th house.Thus in total there is

>influence of three malefics on 12th house in navamsa.

>6.Now relationship between 7th lord from lagna, Su and

>Mo. From lagna and Su it is 6/8 and that from Mo sign

>is 4/10.

>7. SAV in lagna is 31 and 7th from lagna is 22 so

>difference is more. This creates egoism, stubborn

>quality in the native.

>Therefore we may arrive on the conclusion that the

>quality of marriage is spoiled as a whole.

>Once the quality is spoiled then timing may not help

>out.

>As a whole these r not the valid reasons. Because I as

>well you also might have come acrossed such type of

>charts and you might have found that the native is

>married.

>In this chart there is no delay either by Sa or Ju.

>On the contrary the native is blessed with Father or

>Guru.

>This combination takes place in navamsa.

>Therefore this person should have got marriage.

>That is why I asked you, " Are you sure about his birth

>time ? "

>Thanks and regards.

>Ramesh Mishra

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Dear

Nikhlesh ji and Ramesh ji,

 

Let

me add a couple of my thoughts on this topic if I may.

 

Regarding

Nikhlesh ji’s

question on why this gentleman is “yes” man to his parents, and Ramesh ji has alluded to this

fact about Blessings.

 

When

a person has blessings and also this native has 2 sectors of Ju in navamsa, Dreshkon

and Trishansa and Guru is also aspecting Venus as well, so such natives will

generally not oppose parents.

 

Then,

study the psychology of the native and his background and Nikhlesh

ji will be in a better position to see that as he

knows the native. Now study his

mental make up as well, Moon is with Ketu i.e. aspected by Rahu and Moon is in

a house with 21 points.

 

So

studying the Moon sign and Sun sign as well along with lagna (this is given in

some mail or lesson), so Moon is in house with 21 points, Sun is in a house

with 22 points and lagna is 31 points.

Mo being aspected by Rahu will make the native more whimsical or say its

difficult for such a person to change his mind once its set.

 

Now

such an afflicted Moon is giving power to Mars i.e. 4:10. Mars and Venus are in 10th

place from Moon of the native. Ve and Ma are Father and Mother (9th lord and 3rd

lord). So they are having their

control over the Moon and Moon is in the sign of Mars and its with 4 bindus so

in Karak sthan for the 1st house which is Self.

 

The

other points regarding marital chances etc have been covered well. Ju is in libra

and Ve is NK and FK and also the 9th lord

is spoilt, sun in 7th house, 6th lord in 4th

house Ra and Ma aspecting 8th house as well might give some problems

regarding 8th house as well.

 

So

I guess if u assemble all this information together, it will give you a good

idea on the native and then combine the desh kaal Paatra you can get a more clearer picture on the

nature of such a person.

 

About

career, marriage etc is all correct.

So if there is less happiness regarding 7th house, 12th

house, 5th house, the planet giving blessing itself is spoilt and 2nd house the karak

sthan is spoilt, 4th house is spoilt so all ABCDE or their lords are

spoilt and at the same time, then sun is opposing Saturn (natural karak is opposing fk for 10th

house), 5th lord is in 12th from B i.e. 5th

house is loosing status and that again is karak for

authority. So all these things are

telling the story about the status of 10th house.

 

The

career planets are Ju, Ma and Sun.

Sun is administrative / government, Mars is dealing with fire and

Jupiter is advising or teaching. In

the WS, Mo, Ju and Ma are very powerful.

Mo can deal with liquids and Mars can deal also with physical training

or fire and sun for admin.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of nikhlesh mathur

Friday September 19, 2008

7:21 AM

 

Re: Re: Re:

:Non marital case analysis

 

 

 

 

 

 

19.08.2008

Non Marital case study.

Chart : Male, 23.03.1958, 19:05 hrs, 26.N.18,73.E.08, India,

KAY 22:22:49 ; ASC: 14.Vi.17

 

Dear Ramesh ji,

Yes, I am pretty sure about the birth time.

 

Infact before I sat for the analysis this native’s mother spoke to me

& confirmed it twice. She said his birth was related to some event

occurring in the family and hence there is no confusion about it.

 

Now coming to the analysis part, I feel that the few reasons that you, Prabha

ji & myself have listed are sufficient enough to give a non-marital status

(ref: Lesson no. 24 titled ‘Rules for Non Marital status). More than 2

rules are complying with the stated laws and hence I feel that the analysis in

context to non marital status is correct.

 

Yes, as you said Ju is aspecting the spoilt Ve in Navansh. But the Ju is of

high points (6) and hence the aspect will be malefic. Therefore aspect of

malefic Ju on already spoilt Ve in Navansh is not helping marriage related

matters. Ju is originally in Libra and therefore it is already slated to cause

trouble for marriage. I think whatever reasons we have listed are valid for the

non-marital status.

However, after reading your mail, I tried to cross-check the time by some other

events / happenings in his life.

 

Since I knew that this native is a school teacher, I thought of verifying it by

KAS method whether his occupation is in alignment with his occupation. So I

opened Lesson no. 21.

 

My analysis is as follows;

 

The 4th house is for knowledge and it is occupied by the lord of 6th house and

is hence spoiled. The native was not good at studies. He could not qualify as

one of the front-runners in any academic field. This is one factor which

indicates that his chart is correct.

 

Then I assessed the 10th house. The 10th house does not have any planets from

Asc. The 10th lord is Me which has less than 12 points for the 10th house. The

10th lord is placed in Jupiter’s sign in the Navansh. So something

related to education. The native is actually a school teacher.

 

From Sun chart, the 10th lord is Jupiter and Sa which is 6th lord is placed in

this sign (Pieces). Here again Jupiter is coming in force. At the same time Sa

being 6th lord, is reducing the quality of the profession.

 

From Moon chart, 10th lord is Sa which itself is spoil being the 6th lord. And

here 10th house has Ve & Ma. Here Ve has very high points (33 x 1.2 =

39.6).

 

It is my personal observation that Ve tends to give profession which is

somewhat related to chemical substances when Ve is related to 7th or 10th

house.

 

Now Ju is one of the planets associated with the native’s profession.

This is in alignment with the fact that the native is a school teacher. Ju is

aspecting the 10th house but since it has 6 points so it aspects with 2 points

(weak aspect). Hence Ju is not much helping his profession in terms of quality

of the profession. The native has a junior position in his teaching line in the

school. In short his 10th house is inferior in quality.

 

I spoke to him on phone.

 

When asked what he is actually doing in the school (teaching or administration

work, science or Arts subject), I was told by the native that he is infact an

Assistant in the school’s Chemistry Laboratory.

 

That sums it up. I think his chart is as true as are the KAS laws.

 

My one query still remains that is why this native could never discuss out with

his parents and put his feet firmly down for approving a marriage proposal. Why

he remained a ‘yes’ man to his parents when he himself has always

been eager to get married somehow.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

 

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

>Dear Nikhlesh Ji and all,

>I thank you for keeping this forum alive.

>Nikhlesh! Are you sure about his birth time ?

>I did not find any valid reason in respect of this

>chart being unmarried except few reasons given

>hereunder.

>1. Distance between Su and Ve is >43 so Ve the NK and

>FK is spoiled. Ve is with Ma also. Ve is in Leo in

>navamsa.

>But this negative attributes is cancelled because Ve

>is aspected by Ju in navamsa.

>2.LoB Ju is strongly positioned in karaksthaan but the

>sign is Libra and it is with Ra. Therefore Ju is also

>spoiled.

>3.LoC Mo is in 8th house with Ke .Therefore his mind

>is not stable taking decision in all area of his life.

>So here you might have noticed that all significators

>of house 7th is afflicted somehow.

>4.Sa is 6th lord and positioned in house D strongly

>thus spoiling 4th house.

>It has malefic aspect on lagna.

>5. 12th house in navamsa is also spoiled due to

>presence of two malefics viz. Ma and Sa. Su from 6th

>house also aspect 12th house.Thus in total there is

>influence of three malefics on 12th house in navamsa.

>6.Now relationship between 7th lord from lagna, Su and

>Mo. From lagna and Su it is 6/8 and that from Mo sign

>is 4/10.

>7. SAV in lagna is 31 and 7th from lagna is 22 so

>difference is more. This creates egoism, stubborn

>quality in the native.

>Therefore we may arrive on the conclusion that the

>quality of marriage is spoiled as a whole.

>Once the quality is spoiled then timing may not help

>out.

>As a whole these r not the valid reasons. Because I as

>well you also might have come acrossed such type of

>charts and you might have found that the native is

>married.

>In this chart there is no delay either by Sa or Ju.

>On the contrary the native is blessed with Father or

>Guru.

>This combination takes place in navamsa.

>Therefore this person should have got marriage.

>That is why I asked you, " Are you sure about his birth

>time ? "

>Thanks and regards.

>Ramesh Mishra

 

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Dear Ash Ji and Nikhlesh Ji, Yes. Birth time seems to be correct as you have described his profession . Now everything is clear once Ash Ji has described it in detail. I think there should not be any confusion. Dear Nikhlesh Ji ! Kindly bring out such type of charts where everything can be checked and verified. Thanks once again to all of you. Ramesh Mishra"Ash's Corner" <kas wrote: Dear Nikhlesh ji and Ramesh ji, Let me add a couple of my thoughts on this topic if I may. Regarding Nikhlesh ji’s question on why this gentleman is “yes†man to his parents, and Ramesh ji has alluded to this fact about Blessings. When a person has blessings and also this native has 2 sectors of Ju in navamsa, Dreshkon and Trishansa and Guru is also aspecting Venus as well, so such natives will generally not oppose parents. Then, study the psychology of the native and his background and Nikhlesh ji will be in a better position to see that as he knows the

native. Now study his mental make up as well, Moon is with Ketu i.e. aspected by Rahu and Moon is in a house with 21 points. So studying the Moon sign and Sun sign as well along with lagna (this is given in some mail or lesson), so Moon is in house with 21 points, Sun is in a house with 22 points and lagna is 31 points. Mo being aspected by Rahu will make the native more whimsical or say its difficult for such a person to change his mind once its set. Now such an afflicted Moon is giving power to Mars i.e. 4:10. Mars and Venus are in 10th place from Moon of the native. Ve and Ma are Father and Mother (9th lord and 3rd lord). So they are having their control over the Moon and Moon is in the sign of Mars and its with 4 bindus so in Karak sthan for the 1st house which is Self. The other points regarding marital chances etc have been covered well. Ju is in libra and Ve is NK and FK and also the 9th lord is spoilt, sun in

7th house, 6th lord in 4th house Ra and Ma aspecting 8th house as well might give some problems regarding 8th house as well. So I guess if u assemble all this information together, it will give you a good idea on the native and then combine the desh kaal Paatra you can get a more clearer picture on the nature of such a person. About career, marriage etc is all

correct. So if there is less happiness regarding 7th house, 12th house, 5th house, the planet giving blessing itself is spoilt and 2nd house the karak sthan is spoilt, 4th house is spoilt so all ABCDE or their lords are spoilt and at the same time, then sun is opposing Saturn (natural karak is opposing fk for 10th house), 5th lord is in 12th from B i.e. 5th house is loosing status and that again is karak for authority. So all these things are telling the story about the status of 10th house. The career planets are Ju, Ma and Sun. Sun is administrative / government, Mars is dealing with fire and Jupiter is advising or teaching. In the WS, Mo, Ju and Ma are very powerful. Mo can deal with liquids and Mars can deal also with physical training or fire and sun for admin. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of nikhlesh mathurFriday September 19, 2008 7:21 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: :Non marital case analysis 19.08.2008Non Marital case study.Chart : Male, 23.03.1958, 19:05 hrs, 26.N.18,73.E.08, India, KAY 22:22:49 ; ASC: 14.Vi.17Dear Ramesh ji, Yes, I am pretty sure about the birth time. Infact before I sat for the analysis this native’s mother spoke to me & confirmed it twice. She said his birth was related to some event occurring in the family and hence there is no confusion about it.Now coming to the analysis part, I feel that the few reasons that you, Prabha ji & myself have listed are sufficient enough to give a non-marital status (ref: Lesson no. 24

titled ‘Rules for Non Marital status). More than 2 rules are complying with the stated laws and hence I feel that the analysis in context to non marital status is correct.Yes, as you said Ju is aspecting the spoilt Ve in Navansh. But the Ju is of high points (6) and hence the aspect will be malefic. Therefore aspect of malefic Ju on already spoilt Ve in Navansh is not helping marriage related matters. Ju is originally in Libra and therefore it is already slated to cause trouble for marriage. I think whatever reasons we have listed are valid for the non-marital status.However, after reading your mail, I tried to cross-check the time by some other events / happenings in his life. Since I knew that this native is a school teacher, I thought of verifying it by KAS method whether his occupation is in alignment with his occupation. So I opened Lesson no. 21. My analysis is as follows;The 4th house is for knowledge and it is occupied by

the lord of 6th house and is hence spoiled. The native was not good at studies. He could not qualify as one of the front-runners in any academic field. This is one factor which indicates that his chart is correct.Then I assessed the 10th house. The 10th house does not have any planets from Asc. The 10th lord is Me which has less than 12 points for the 10th house. The 10th lord is placed in Jupiter’s sign in the Navansh. So something related to education. The native is actually a school teacher.From Sun chart, the 10th lord is Jupiter and Sa which is 6th lord is placed in this sign (Pieces). Here again Jupiter is coming in force. At the same time Sa being 6th lord, is reducing the quality of the profession.From Moon chart, 10th lord is Sa which itself is spoil being the 6th lord. And here 10th house has Ve & Ma. Here Ve has very high points (33 x 1.2 = 39.6). It is my personal observation that Ve tends to give profession which is

somewhat related to chemical substances when Ve is related to 7th or 10th house. Now Ju is one of the planets associated with the native’s profession. This is in alignment with the fact that the native is a school teacher. Ju is aspecting the 10th house but since it has 6 points so it aspects with 2 points (weak aspect). Hence Ju is not much helping his profession in terms of quality of the profession. The native has a junior position in his teaching line in the school. In short his 10th house is inferior in quality. I spoke to him on phone. When asked what he is actually doing in the school (teaching or administration work, science or Arts subject), I was told by the native that he is infact an Assistant in the school’s Chemistry Laboratory.That sums it up. I think his chart is as true as are the KAS laws.My one query still remains that is why this native could never discuss out with his parents and put his feet firmly down for

approving a marriage proposal. Why he remained a ‘yes’ man to his parents when he himself has always been eager to get married somehow.Regards,Nikhlesh MathurOn Thu, 18 Sep 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :>Dear Nikhlesh Ji and all,>I thank you for keeping this forum alive.>Nikhlesh! Are you sure about his birth time ?>I did not find any valid reason in respect of this>chart being unmarried except few reasons given>hereunder.>1. Distance between Su and Ve is >43 so Ve the NK and>FK is spoiled. Ve is with Ma also. Ve is in Leo in>navamsa.>But this negative attributes is cancelled because Ve>is aspected by Ju in navamsa.>2.LoB Ju is strongly positioned in karaksthaan but the>sign is Libra and it is with Ra. Therefore Ju is also>spoiled.>3.LoC Mo is in 8th house with Ke .Therefore his mind>is not stable taking decision in all area of his

life.>So here you might have noticed that all significators>of house 7th is afflicted somehow.>4.Sa is 6th lord and positioned in house D strongly>thus spoiling 4th house.>It has malefic aspect on lagna.>5. 12th house in navamsa is also spoiled due to>presence of two malefics viz. Ma and Sa. Su from 6th>house also aspect 12th house.Thus in total there is>influence of three malefics on 12th house in navamsa.>6.Now relationship between 7th lord from lagna, Su and>Mo. From lagna and Su it is 6/8 and that from Mo sign>is 4/10.>7. SAV in lagna is 31 and 7th from lagna is 22 so>difference is more. This creates egoism, stubborn>quality in the native.>Therefore we may arrive on the conclusion that the>quality of marriage is spoiled as a whole.>Once the quality is spoiled then timing may not help>out.>As a whole these r not the valid

reasons. Because I as>well you also might have come acrossed such type of>charts and you might have found that the native is>married.>In this chart there is no delay either by Sa or Ju.>On the contrary the native is blessed with Father or>Guru.>This combination takes place in navamsa.>Therefore this person should have got marriage.>That is why I asked you,"Are you sure about his birth>time ?">Thanks and regards.>Ramesh Mishra

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Dear

Ramesh ji,

 

In

your mail you had said that in some charts there might be marriage despite such

strong problems as per our laws, but all the things have to be read with desh, kaal and Paatra principle.

 

Paatra

means the Native or the individual, his or her psychology is very important to

be studied. 

 

Haven’t

you noticed that when a person comes to you for a reading in person, then there

are so many things you can make out about the person, the way the person walks,

his back ground and environment that the native is in or has grown up in, the

values, the community and the effect of his or her society on the thinking of

the native and parents, etc etc, all these things are

influencing the psychology of the native. 

The natives own out look, his capacity, intelligence, ego, etc all has

to be judged along with the laws that are given by Guruji,

 

Afflicted

Venus in some cases it delays marriage, in some cases, there might be a break

in marriage, depending on so many factors and in some cases when ve is badly afflicted or spoilt then you might experience

multiple marriages or even denial of marriage. 

In some case there might not be a break maybe due to blessing but at

same time the couple might be married for the society but there might not be

any happiness.

 

In

some cases, due to a very powerful blessing and check of Guru on such a venus might totally alter the situation or check it.  Now maybe some wise words of the Guru and the

nature of the native to respect his or her Guru and heed the words and wisdom,

might help avert a potentially failed situation or due to the blessing might

help the couple have a decent marriage or a nice marriage.  Again here say if the native is very adamant and

might not listen then everything will change.

 

Just

think over this.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of ramesh mishra

Friday September 19, 2008

11:59 AM

To:

 

RE: Re: Re:

:Non marital case analysis

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ash Ji and Nikhlesh Ji,

 

 

Yes. Birth time seems

to be correct as you have described his profession .

 

 

Now everything is clear once

Ash Ji has described it in detail.

 

 

I think there should not be

any confusion.

 

 

Dear Nikhlesh Ji ! Kindly

bring out such type of charts where everything can be checked and verified.

 

 

Thanks once again to all of

you.

 

 

Ramesh Mishra

 

" Ash's

Corner " <kas wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Nikhlesh ji

and Ramesh ji,

 

 

Let me add a couple of my thoughts on this topic if I may.

 

 

Regarding Nikhlesh ji’s

question on why this gentleman is “yes†man to his parents, and Ramesh ji has alluded to this

fact about Blessings.

 

 

When a person has blessings and also this native has 2 sectors of

Ju in navamsa, Dreshkon and Trishansa and Guru is also aspecting Venus as well,

so such natives will generally not oppose parents.

 

 

Then, study the psychology of the native and his background and Nikhlesh ji will be in a better

position to see that as he knows the native. Now study his mental make up

as well, Moon is with Ketu i.e. aspected by Rahu and Moon is in a house with 21

points.

 

 

So studying the Moon sign and Sun sign as well along with lagna

(this is given in some mail or lesson), so Moon is in house with 21 points, Sun

is in a house with 22 points and lagna is 31 points. Mo being aspected by

Rahu will make the native more whimsical or say its difficult for such a person

to change his mind once its set.

 

 

Now such an afflicted Moon is giving power to Mars i.e. 4:10.

Mars and Venus are in 10th place from Moon of the native. Ve and Ma are Father and Mother (9th lord and 3rd

lord). So they are having their control over the Moon and Moon is in the

sign of Mars and its with 4 bindus so in Karak sthan for the 1st

house which is Self.

 

 

The other points regarding marital chances etc have been covered

well. Ju is in libra and Ve

is NK and FK and also the 9th lord is spoilt, sun in 7th

house, 6th lord in 4th house Ra and Ma aspecting 8th

house as well might give some problems regarding 8th house as well.

 

 

So I guess if u assemble all this information together, it will

give you a good idea on the native and then combine the desh

kaal Paatra you can get a more clearer picture on the

nature of such a person.

 

 

About career, marriage etc is all correct. So if there is

less happiness regarding 7th house, 12th house, 5th

house, the planet giving blessing itself is spoilt and 2nd

house the karak sthan is spoilt, 4th house

is spoilt so all ABCDE or their lords are spoilt and at the same time, then sun

is opposing Saturn (natural karak is opposing fk for 10th house), 5th lord is in 12th

from B i.e. 5th house is loosing status and that again is karak for authority. So all these things are telling

the story about the status of 10th house.

 

 

The career planets are Ju, Ma and Sun. Sun is administrative

/ government, Mars is dealing with fire and Jupiter is advising or

teaching. In the WS, Mo, Ju and Ma are very powerful. Mo can deal

with liquids and Mars can deal also with physical training or fire and sun for

admin.

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

 

 

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of nikhlesh mathur

Friday September 19, 2008

7:21 AM

 

Re: Re: Re:

:Non marital case analysis

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

19.08.2008

Non Marital case study.

Chart : Male, 23.03.1958, 19:05 hrs, 26.N.18,73.E.08, India,

KAY 22:22:49 ; ASC: 14.Vi.17

 

Dear Ramesh ji,

Yes, I am pretty sure about the birth time.

 

Infact before I sat for the analysis this native’s mother spoke to me &

confirmed it twice. She said his birth was related to some event occurring in

the family and hence there is no confusion about it.

 

Now coming to the analysis part, I feel that the few reasons that you, Prabha

ji & myself have listed are sufficient enough to give a non-marital status

(ref: Lesson no. 24 titled ‘Rules for Non Marital status). More than 2 rules

are complying with the stated laws and hence I feel that the analysis in

context to non marital status is correct.

 

Yes, as you said Ju is aspecting the spoilt Ve in Navansh. But the Ju is of

high points (6) and hence the aspect will be malefic. Therefore aspect of

malefic Ju on already spoilt Ve in Navansh is not helping marriage related

matters. Ju is originally in Libra and therefore it is already slated to cause

trouble for marriage. I think whatever reasons we have listed are valid for the

non-marital status.

However, after reading your mail, I tried to cross-check the time by some other

events / happenings in his life.

 

Since I knew that this native is a school teacher, I thought of verifying it by

KAS method whether his occupation is in alignment with his occupation. So I

opened Lesson no. 21.

 

My analysis is as follows;

 

The 4th house is for knowledge and it is occupied by the lord of 6th house and is

hence spoiled. The native was not good at studies. He could not qualify as one

of the front-runners in any academic field. This is one factor which indicates

that his chart is correct.

 

Then I assessed the 10th house. The 10th house does not have any planets from

Asc. The 10th lord is Me which has less than 12 points for the 10th house. The

10th lord is placed in Jupiter’s sign in the Navansh. So something related to

education. The native is actually a school teacher.

 

From Sun chart, the 10th lord is Jupiter and Sa which is 6th lord is placed in

this sign (Pieces). Here again Jupiter is coming in force. At the same time Sa

being 6th lord, is reducing the quality of the profession.

 

From Moon chart, 10th lord is Sa which itself is spoil being the 6th lord. And

here 10th house has Ve & Ma. Here Ve has very high points (33 x 1.2 =

39.6).

 

It is my personal observation that Ve tends to give profession which is

somewhat related to chemical substances when Ve is related to 7th or 10th

house.

 

Now Ju is one of the planets associated with the native’s profession. This is

in alignment with the fact that the native is a school teacher. Ju is aspecting

the 10th house but since it has 6 points so it aspects with 2 points (weak

aspect). Hence Ju is not much helping his profession in terms of quality of the

profession. The native has a junior position in his teaching line in the

school. In short his 10th house is inferior in quality.

 

I spoke to him on phone.

 

When asked what he is actually doing in the school (teaching or administration

work, science or Arts subject), I was told by the native that he is infact an

Assistant in the school’s Chemistry Laboratory.

 

That sums it up. I think his chart is as true as are the KAS laws.

 

My one query still remains that is why this native could never discuss out with

his parents and put his feet firmly down for approving a marriage proposal. Why

he remained a ‘yes’ man to his parents when he himself has always been eager to

get married somehow.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

 

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

>Dear Nikhlesh Ji and all,

>I thank you for keeping this forum alive.

>Nikhlesh! Are you sure about his birth time ?

>I did not find any valid reason in respect of this

>chart being unmarried except few reasons given

>hereunder.

>1. Distance between Su and Ve is >43 so Ve the NK and

>FK is spoiled. Ve is with Ma also. Ve is in Leo in

>navamsa.

>But this negative attributes is cancelled because Ve

>is aspected by Ju in navamsa.

>2.LoB Ju is strongly positioned in karaksthaan but the

>sign is Libra and it is with Ra. Therefore Ju is also

>spoiled.

>3.LoC Mo is in 8th house with Ke .Therefore his mind

>is not stable taking decision in all area of his life.

>So here you might have noticed that all significators

>of house 7th is afflicted somehow.

>4.Sa is 6th lord and positioned in house D strongly

>thus spoiling 4th house.

>It has malefic aspect on lagna.

>5. 12th house in navamsa is also spoiled due to

>presence of two malefics viz. Ma and Sa. Su from 6th

>house also aspect 12th house.Thus in total there is

>influence of three malefics on 12th house in navamsa.

>6.Now relationship between 7th lord from lagna, Su and

>Mo. From lagna and Su it is 6/8 and that from Mo sign

>is 4/10.

>7. SAV in lagna is 31 and 7th from lagna is 22 so

>difference is more. This creates egoism, stubborn

>quality in the native.

>Therefore we may arrive on the conclusion that the

>quality of marriage is spoiled as a whole.

>Once the quality is spoiled then timing may not help

>out.

>As a whole these r not the valid reasons. Because I as

>well you also might have come acrossed such type of

>charts and you might have found that the native is

>married.

>In this chart there is no delay either by Sa or Ju.

>On the contrary the native is blessed with Father or

>Guru.

>This combination takes place in navamsa.

>Therefore this person should have got marriage.

>That is why I asked you, " Are you sure about his birth

>time ? "

>Thanks and regards.

>Ramesh Mishra

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

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