Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members, If a native is running Ke/Me dasha --- then is it possible for Me to give results in its antra for the planets its Samdharmi to though the antra of other planets are over in the life of the native. Thanks Prabha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Dear Prabha ji, As far as i could understand your question,please note that during mercury antra,if mercury is unable to furnish the result for any house,then in that case a planet samdharmi to mercury will come forward to give the event. Now your doubt is in reverse order. Lets assume Jupitor and Mercury are placed in same sign. So they will be samdharmi to each other and they can help each other for giving an event. For example if mercury antra is running. In that case, if mercury is unable to give the event say, due to its sight on house A/B/C or some other reason,then Jupitor will replace mercury for the completion of an event. Similarly, mercury can be a substitute for jupitor if Jupitor is unable to furnish the event during Jupitor antra. In this case mercury can replace jupitor for an event to happen. I hope it is clear now. Regards Anup --- On Fri, 24/10/08, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya wrote: prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya SD doubt Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 1:44 PM Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,If a native is running Ke/Me dasha ---then is it possible for Me to give results in its antra for the planets its Samdharmi to though the antra of other planets are over in the life of the native.ThanksPrabha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Dear Prabha ji, I am attempting to reply to your query. The SD planets are those which try to give the good results of the planets of which the antra is yet to come. For example if Me is SD to Ma then Me will give the result ( good result only) of Ma if the AD of Ma is yet to come in future but that of Me has come before in the life of native. Now if the AD of Ma has already come in the life of native ( before that of Me) then he/she must have attained those benefits then & there itself. If suppose the native could not achieve those benifits in the past due to some neutralizing effect by other planets in transit at that time, then I think it would be a case of a lost opportunity. Me should NOT give the benifits of planets it is SD to, if antra of those is already over in life in the same MD period. Having said this, I would wait for the replies of other list members. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 prabha.acharya wrote : >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members, >If a native is running Ke/Me dasha --- >then is it possible for Me to give results in its antra for the >planets its Samdharmi to though the antra of other planets are >over in the life of the native. >Thanks >Prabha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Dear Nikhlesh ji, Samdharmi concept is quite deep and more practise on various charts is needed to understand thoroughly. You have mentioned that Mercury should not give the benefits as SD to to other planets if antras of those are already over during a mahadasa. Now when ever a planet as samdharmi come forward to give an event,then event will happen.Here "benefits" can be considered for qulaity of event.So a samdharmi can be conducive for timing of event only.The quality is controlled by karaka only. Mahadasa represent karkatwa.Whatever event would happen this will revolves arround or be having an essence of this karkatwa as per MD.Whether this event happen due to LoD/LoE or antra's samdharmi,it does not matter.This may be focused on MD lord's karkatwa. Example of 4:10 relation can explain this very well where a planet in 10th place becomes stronger by virtue of getting all basic strength of planet situated in fourth place from it. Here we can well judge the "benefits" when sun will transit through the sign or nakshtra of planet in 4th place. Thats why its always good to learn more and more by solving as many charts as we can.Guruji has given us basic rules of KAS and powerful lessons. Regards Anup --- On Fri, 24/10/08, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathurRe: SD doubt Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 6:47 PM Dear Prabha ji, I am attempting to reply to your query.The SD planets are those which try to give the good results of the planets of which the antra is yet to come. For example if Me is SD to Ma then Me will give the result ( good result only) of Ma if the AD of Ma is yet to come in future but that of Me has come before in the life of native.Now if the AD of Ma has already come in the life of native ( before that of Me) then he/she must have attained those benefits then & there itself.If suppose the native could not achieve those benifits in the past due to some neutralizing effect by other planets in transit at that time, then I think it would be a case of a lost opportunity.Me should NOT give the benifits of planets it is SD to, if antra of those is already over in life in the same MD period.Having said this, I would wait for the replies of other list members.Regards,Nikhlesh MathurOn Fri, 24 Oct 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :>Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,>If a native is running Ke/Me dasha --->then is it possible for Me to give results in its antra for the>planets its Samdharmi to though the antra of other planets are>over in the life of the native.>Thanks>Prabha> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Thanks Anup ji, You are right that studying more charts will help clear the SD fundamentals. Unfortunately I have still did not achieved clarity on SD theories. I have copied you mail to my word file and an trying to figure out the exact things. Is it that SD planets will come forward only for timing and NOT for quality? And is it that if for example Me is SD to Ma then Me will give the timing benifit meant to be given by Ma antra in its AD even when the antra of Ma is over in the past ( in the same MD)? I though that it will not give. Thanks for helping. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 Anup.M wrote : >Dear Nikhlesh ji, > >Samdharmi concept is quite deep and more practise >on various charts is needed to understand thoroughly. > >You have mentioned that Mercury should not give the benefits >as SD  to to other planets if antras of those are already over during >a mahadasa. > >Now when ever a planet as samdharmi come forward to >give an event,then event will happen.Here " benefits " >can be considered for qulaity of event.So a samdharmi can be >conducive for timing of event only.The quality is controlled by >karaka only. > >Mahadasa represent karkatwa.Whatever event would happen >this will revolves arround or be having an essence of this  >karkatwa as per MD.Whether this event happen due to LoD/LoE >or antra's samdharmi,it does not matter.This may be focused >on MD lord's karkatwa. > >Example of 4:10 relation can explain this very well where >a planet in 10th place becomes stronger by virtue of getting >all basic strength of planet situated in fourth place from it. > >Here we can well judge the " benefits "  when sun will transit >through the sign or nakshtra of planet in 4th place. > >Thats why its always good  to learn more and more by solving >as many charts as we can.Guruji has given us basic rules >of KAS and powerful lessons. > >Regards >Anup > > > > > > > > > >--- On Fri, 24/10/08, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur >Re: SD doubt > >Friday, 24 October, 2008, 6:47 PM > > > > > > > > >Dear Prabha ji, > >        I am attempting to reply to your query. > >The SD planets are those which try to give the good results of the planets of which the antra is yet to come. > >For example if Me is SD to Ma then Me will give the result ( good result only) of Ma if the AD of Ma is yet to come in future but that of Me has come before in the life of native. > >Now if the AD of Ma has already come in the life of native ( before that of Me) then he/she must have attained those benefits then & there itself. > >If suppose the native could not achieve those benifits in the past due to some neutralizing effect by other planets in transit at that time, then I think it would be a case of a lost opportunity. > >Me should NOT give the benifits of planets it is SD to, if antra of those is already over in life in the same MD period. > >Having said this, I would wait for the replies of other list members. > >Regards, >Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > >On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 prabha.acharya wrote : > >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members, > >If a native is running Ke/Me dasha --- > >then is it possible for Me to give results in its antra for the > >planets its Samdharmi to though the antra of other planets are > >over in the life of the native. > >Thanks > >Prabha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Dear Nikhlesh ji, Yes, a SD planet can come forward for giving an event but as per my understanding this should not be considered for the quality aspect of another planet to whom this is samdhrami. As you know we see the quality of result from many angles like aspects,conjunctions,delays etc etc,.Placement of a planet in a particular sign also determines its MF factor, so we can not ascertain quality result of planet X (being SD to planet Y) duing antra of of planet Y,when X come forwards for planet Y. They could be placed in different signs and navamsa. Next,samdharmi planets are not bound for a particular mahadasa. They can repeat their duty as samdharmi for another time in a given MD. Regards Anup --- On Sat, 25/10/08, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathurRe: Re: SD doubt Date: Saturday, 25 October, 2008, 4:15 PM Thanks Anup ji, You are right that studying more charts will help clear the SD fundamentals.Unfortunately I have still did not achieved clarity on SD theories. I have copied you mail to my word file and an trying to figure out the exact things.Is it that SD planets will come forward only for timing and NOT for quality?And is it that if for example Me is SD to Ma then Me will give the timing benifit meant to be given by Ma antra in its AD even when the antra of Ma is over in the past ( in the same MD)? I though that it will not give.Thanks for helping.Regards,Nikhlesh Mathur On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 Anup.M wrote :>Dear Nikhlesh ji,>Â>Samdharmi concept is quite deep and more practise>on various charts is needed to understand thoroughly.>Â>You have mentioned that Mercury should not give the benefits>as SD  to to other planets if antras of those are already over during>a mahadasa.>Â>Now when ever a planet as samdharmi come forward to>give an event,then event will happen.Here "benefits">can be considered for qulaity of event..So a samdharmi can be>conducive for timing of event only.The quality is controlled by>karaka only.>Â>Mahadasa represent karkatwa.Whatever event would happen>this will revolves arround or be having an essence of this Â>karkatwa as per MD.Whether this event happen due to LoD/LoE>or antra's samdharmi,it does not matter.This may be focused>on MD lord's karkatwa.Â>Â>Example of 4:10 relation can explain this very well where>a planet in 10th place becomes stronger by virtue of getting>all basic strength of planet situated in fourth place from it.>Â>Here we can well judge the "benefits" when sun will transit>through the sign or nakshtra of planet in 4th place.>Â>Thats why its always good  to learn more and more by solving>as many charts as we can.Guruji has given us basic rules>of KAS and powerful lessons.Â>Â>Regards>Anup>Â>Â>Â>Â>Â>Â>Â>>>--- On Fri, 24/10/08, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur@ rediffmail. com> wrote:>> nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur@ rediffmail. com>>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] SD doubt>astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com>Friday, 24 October, 2008, 6:47 PM>>>>>>>>Â>Dear Prabha ji,>>        I am attempting to reply to your query.>>The SD planets are those which try to give the good results of the planets of which the antra is yet to come.>>For example if Me is SD to Ma then Me will give the result ( good result only) of Ma if the AD of Ma is yet to come in future but that of Me has come before in the life of native.>>Now if the AD of Ma has already come in the life of native ( before that of Me) then he/she must have attained those benefits then & there itself.>>If suppose the native could not achieve those benifits in the past due to some neutralizing effect by other planets in transit at that time, then I think it would be a case of a lost opportunity.>>Me should NOT give the benifits of planets it is SD to, if antra of those is already over in life in the same MD period.>>Having said this, I would wait for the replies of other list members.>>Regards,>Nikhlesh Mathur>>>>>>>>On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :> >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,> >If a native is running Ke/Me dasha ---> >then is it possible for Me to give results in its antra for the> >planets its Samdharmi to though the antra of other planets are> >over in the life of the native.> >Thanks> >Prabha> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/ Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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