A chart to study date of marriage

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09.11.08

 

Dear Group Members,

 

Here is my attempt on validating the marriage date on the chart posted by Prabha ji.

 

Native: Female, 02.08.1983, 12:15 pm, 30.N.19, 76.E.24

 

Query by Prabhaji : Validation of Marriage date 8th Dec 2008

 

Judgment of happiness in marriage:

 

1. Lord of Asc & lord of 7th from it Ve & Ma are 3:11 in natal chart. Lord of Moon sign & 7th from it Ma & Ve are 3:11 in natal chart.Lord of Sun sign & 7th from it Mo & Sa are 1:7 in natal chart

 

Put together these manage 50 points.

 

2. The point difference in 1st & 7th house is very little.

 

3. None of planets except Sa aspects house A,B,C, and this Sa is also neutral.

 

4. Ma & Ve both are free from Sa aspect.

 

5. There is no aspect of the 6th lord Ju on the 7th house.

 

6. The distance between Su & Ve is between 3 to 43 degrees which is okay and Ve is not in any problematic Nks (Nakshatra).

 

So all in all there would be happiness in marriage except one point that the root karak for marriage (lord of house A) is placed 8th from the house A.

 

And this Ma is in the Nks of the 6th lord. So may be there is some particular cause which might bring in gloom in an otherwise happy marriage.

 

Delay factors & deriving the marriage date:

 

1. There is Sa delay because Sa is seeing house B in natal chart and Sa is placed in house C of Navansh.

 

2. There is no Jupiter delay in this chart.

 

3. So there is only full delay of Sa. This Sa is 5Li49. So the delay of Sa is over when Sa crossed 6 degrees in sign Leo in transit.

 

This occurred on 26th Aug 2007. So as far as obstruction from Sa was concerned, it was over on 26th Aug 2007. May be the period after that facilitated the groom selection.

 

4. Till Dec 2007 she was running in the AD of Ketu. Her Ketu is working like Ma & Me. Here Me is LoE for 7th house. There were chances that AD of Ketu gave marriage. But Ketu is also conjoined with Ju which is L12 for 7th house. Normally L12 planets do not give good results and here except for one big cause, unhappiness in marriage is not seen in the chart.

 

5. The next AD was of Ve. Here Ve is SD to Me which is LoE for 7th house marriage. So Ve is destined to come forward to give the good result which was to be given by Me.

 

6. Here it must be noted that when the AD of Me came in her life (Dec 2005 to May 2007) the marriage did not happen because at that time the Saturn delay was not over. It got over in Aug 2007.

 

7. There is no zero in the SAV chart. But the marriage did not happen in the 1st sector (Dec 2007 to July 2008). It could be because Ve is associated with 6th lord Ju in the Navansh. So the 6th lord delayed the event a bit, imparting whatever efect it could.

 

8. The marriage therefore got to happen in the 2nd sector of Ve (July 08 to Jan 2009). Dec 08th comes in this period.

 

9. Me,Ve & Ju are planets which have high points both from 7th & 2nd house of her chart from Asc. If we try to bring in a combination between transit of Sun and these 3 planets, we find that on the 8th Dec 2008, Su will be in the Nks of Me. Here Me is LoE both from Asc & Sun. Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of Sun and Me will be in the sign of Ju.

 

10. So the marriage date 8th Dec 2008 is validated through KAS laws.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

>Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,

>This is a chart of a female doctor. Her marriage is scheduled on

>8th dec this year.

>Birth details are

>2nd august 1983

>12:15 pm

>76E24, 30N19, Patiala, Punjab, India

>

>I will study the chart and give details later.

>Thanks

>Prabha

>

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Dear Nikhlesh ji,

 

I am getting Asc 10 Li 1.

As such there is no saturn delay.

 

Saturn is aspecting houe B and Lord of C in rasi.

Saturn is not aspecting house A or lord of A (Mars) in rasi.

 

Saturn should have aspect on Mars in navamsa otherwise.

 

If we are considering navamsa,then Saturn should be aspecting

all three houses in navamsa like saturn in 5th house in navsamsa.

 

I hope you will get it.

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

--- On Sun, 9/11/08, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote:

nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathurRe: A chart to study date of marriage Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 4:55 PM

 

 

 

09.11.08Dear Group Members, Here is my attempt on validating the marriage date on the chart posted by Prabha ji.Native: Female, 02.08.1983, 12:15 pm, 30.N.19, 76.E.24Query by Prabhaji : Validation of Marriage date 8th Dec 2008Judgment of happiness in marriage:1. Lord of Asc & lord of 7th from it Ve & Ma are 3:11 in natal chart. Lord of Moon sign & 7th from it Ma & Ve are 3:11 in natal chart.Lord of Sun sign & 7th from it Mo & Sa are 1:7 in natal chart Put together these manage 50 points.2. The point difference in 1st & 7th house is very little.3. None of planets except Sa aspects house A,B,C, and this Sa is also neutral.4. Ma & Ve both are free from Sa aspect.5. There is no

aspect of the 6th lord Ju on the 7th house.6. The distance between Su & Ve is between 3 to 43 degrees which is okay and Ve is not in any problematic Nks (Nakshatra).So all in all there would be happiness in marriage except one point that the root karak for marriage (lord of house A) is placed 8th from the house A. And this Ma is in the Nks of the 6th lord. So may be there is some particular cause which might bring in gloom in an otherwise happy marriage.Delay factors & deriving the marriage date:1. There is Sa delay because Sa is seeing house B in natal chart and Sa is placed in house C of Navansh.2. There is no Jupiter delay in this chart.3. So there is only full delay of Sa.. This Sa is 5Li49. So the delay of Sa is over when Sa crossed 6 degrees in sign Leo in transit.This occurred on 26th Aug 2007. So as

far as obstruction from Sa was concerned, it was over on 26th Aug 2007. May be the period after that facilitated the groom selection.4. Till Dec 2007 she was running in the AD of Ketu. Her Ketu is working like Ma & Me. Here Me is LoE for 7th house. There were chances that AD of Ketu gave marriage. But Ketu is also conjoined with Ju which is L12 for 7th house. Normally L12 planets do not give good results and here except for one big cause, unhappiness in marriage is not seen in the chart.5. The next AD was of Ve. Here Ve is SD to Me which is LoE for 7th house marriage. So Ve is destined to come forward to give the good result which was to be given by Me.6. Here it must be noted that when the AD of Me came in her life (Dec 2005 to May 2007) the marriage did not happen because at that time the Saturn delay was not over. It got over in Aug 2007.7.

There is no zero in the SAV chart. But the marriage did not happen in the 1st sector (Dec 2007 to July 2008). It could be because Ve is associated with 6th lord Ju in the Navansh. So the 6th lord delayed the event a bit, imparting whatever efect it could.8. The marriage therefore got to happen in the 2nd sector of Ve (July 08 to Jan 2009). Dec 08th comes in this period.9. Me,Ve & Ju are planets which have high points both from 7th & 2nd house of her chart from Asc. If we try to bring in a combination between transit of Sun and these 3 planets, we find that on the 8th Dec 2008, Su will be in the Nks of Me. Here Me is LoE both from Asc & Sun. Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of Sun and Me will be in the sign of Ju.10. So the marriage date 8th Dec 2008 is validated through KAS laws.Regards,Nikhlesh MathurOn Sun, 09

Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :>Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,>This is a chart of a female doctor. Her marriage is scheduled on>8th dec this year.>Birth details are>2nd august 1983>12:15 pm>76E24, 30N19, Patiala, Punjab, India>>I will study the chart and give details later.>Thanks>Prabha>

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09.11.08

 

Dear Group Members,

 

Here is my attempt on validating the marriage date on the chart posted by Prabha ji.

 

Native: Female, 02.08.1983, 12:15 pm, 30.N.19, 76.E.24

 

Query by Prabhaji : Validation of Marriage date 8th Dec 2008

 

Judgment of happiness in marriage:

 

1. Lord of Asc & lord of 7th from it Ve & Ma are 3:11 in natal chart. Lord of Moon sign & 7th from it Ma & Ve are 3:11 in natal chart.Lord of Sun sign & 7th from it Mo & Sa are 1:7 in natal chart

 

Put together these manage 50 points.

 

2. The point difference in 1st & 7th house is very little.

 

3. None of planets except Sa aspects house A,B,C, and this Sa is also neutral.

 

4. Ma & Ve both are free from Sa aspect.

 

5. There is no aspect of the 6th lord Ju on the 7th house.

 

6. The distance between Su & Ve is between 3 to 43 degrees which is okay and Ve is not in any problematic Nks (Nakshatra).

 

So all in all there would be happiness in marriage except one point that the root karak for marriage (lord of house A) is placed 8th from the house A.

 

And this Ma is in the Nks of the 6th lord. So may be there is some particular cause which might bring in gloom in an otherwise happy marriage.

 

Delay factors & deriving the marriage date:

 

1. There is Sa delay because Sa is seeing house B in natal chart and Sa is placed in house C of Navansh.

 

2. There is no Jupiter delay in this chart.

 

3. So there is only full delay of Sa. This Sa is 5Li49. So the delay of Sa is over when Sa crossed 6 degrees in sign Leo in transit.

 

This occurred on 26th Aug 2007. So as far as obstruction from Sa was concerned, it was over on 26th Aug 2007. May be the period after that facilitated the groom selection.

 

4. Till Dec 2007 she was running in the AD of Ketu. Her Ketu is working like Ma & Me. Here Me is LoE for 7th house. There were chances that AD of Ketu gave marriage. But Ketu is also conjoined with Ju which is L12 for 7th house. Normally L12 planets do not give good results and here except for one big cause, unhappiness in marriage is not seen in the chart.

 

5. The next AD was of Ve. Here Ve is SD to Me which is LoE for 7th house marriage. So Ve is destined to come forward to give the good result which was to be given by Me.

 

6. Here it must be noted that when the AD of Me came in her life (Dec 2005 to May 2007) the marriage did not happen because at that time the Saturn delay was not over. It got over in Aug 2007.

 

7. There is no zero in the SAV chart. But the marriage did not happen in the 1st sector (Dec 2007 to July 2008). It could be because Ve is associated with 6th lord Ju in the Navansh. So the 6th lord delayed the event a bit, imparting whatever efect it could.

 

8. The marriage therefore got to happen in the 2nd sector of Ve (July 08 to Jan 2009). Dec 08th comes in this period.

 

9. Me,Ve & Ju are planets which have high points both from 7th & 2nd house of her chart from Asc. If we try to bring in a combination between transit of Sun and these 3 planets, we find that on the 8th Dec 2008, Su will be in the Nks of Me. Here Me is LoE both from Asc & Sun. Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of Sun and Me will be in the sign of Ju.

 

10. So the marriage date 8th Dec 2008 is validated through KAS laws.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

 

 

 

 

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

>Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,

>This is a chart of a female doctor. Her marriage is scheduled on

>8th dec this year.

>Birth details are

>2nd august 1983

>12:15 pm

>76E24, 30N19, Patiala, Punjab, India

>

>I will study the chart and give details later.

>Thanks

>Prabha

>

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Dear Nikhlesh Ji and all,There is no delay either by Sa or Ju.Asc. is 10 Li 1 as obtained by Anup Ji.Ramesh Mishranikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: 09.11.08 Dear Group Members, Here is my attempt on validating the marriage date on the chart posted by Prabha ji. Native: Female, 02.08.1983, 12:15 pm, 30.N.19, 76.E.24 Query by Prabhaji : Validation of Marriage date 8th Dec 2008 Judgment of happiness in

marriage: 1. Lord of Asc & lord of 7th from it Ve & Ma are 3:11 in natal chart. Lord of Moon sign & 7th from it Ma & Ve are 3:11 in natal chart.Lord of Sun sign & 7th from it Mo & Sa are 1:7 in natal chart Put together these manage 50 points. 2. The point difference in 1st & 7th house is very little. 3. None of planets except Sa aspects house A,B,C, and this Sa is also neutral. 4. Ma & Ve both are free from Sa aspect. 5. There is no aspect of the 6th lord Ju on the 7th house. 6. The distance between Su & Ve is between 3 to 43 degrees which is okay and Ve is not in any problematic Nks (Nakshatra). So all in all there would be happiness in marriage except one point that the root karak for marriage (lord of house A) is placed 8th from the house A. And this Ma is in the

Nks of the 6th lord. So may be there is some particular cause which might bring in gloom in an otherwise happy marriage. Delay factors & deriving the marriage date: 1. There is Sa delay because Sa is seeing house B in natal chart and Sa is placed in house C of Navansh. 2. There is no Jupiter delay in this chart. 3. So there is only full delay of Sa. This Sa is 5Li49. So the delay of Sa is over when Sa crossed 6 degrees in sign Leo in transit. This occurred on 26th Aug 2007. So as far as obstruction from Sa was concerned, it was over on 26th Aug 2007. May be the period after that facilitated the groom selection. 4. Till Dec 2007 she was running in the AD of Ketu. Her Ketu is working like Ma & Me. Here Me is LoE for 7th house. There were chances that AD of Ketu gave marriage. But Ketu is also conjoined with Ju which is L12 for 7th house. Normally L12 planets

do not give good results and here except for one big cause, unhappiness in marriage is not seen in the chart. 5. The next AD was of Ve. Here Ve is SD to Me which is LoE for 7th house marriage. So Ve is destined to come forward to give the good result which was to be given by Me. 6. Here it must be noted that when the AD of Me came in her life (Dec 2005 to May 2007) the marriage did not happen because at that time the Saturn delay was not over. It got over in Aug 2007. 7. There is no zero in the SAV chart. But the marriage did not happen in the 1st sector (Dec 2007 to July 2008). It could be because Ve is associated with 6th lord Ju in the Navansh. So the 6th lord delayed the event a bit, imparting whatever efect it could. 8. The marriage therefore got to happen in the 2nd sector of Ve (July 08 to Jan 2009). Dec 08th comes in this period. 9. Me,Ve &

Ju are planets which have high points both from 7th & 2nd house of her chart from Asc. If we try to bring in a combination between transit of Sun and these 3 planets, we find that on the 8th Dec 2008, Su will be in the Nks of Me. Here Me is LoE both from Asc & Sun. Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of Sun and Me will be in the sign of Ju. 10. So the marriage date 8th Dec 2008 is validated through KAS laws. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote : >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members, >This is a chart of a female doctor. Her marriage is scheduled on >8th dec this year. >Birth details are >2nd august 1983 >12:15 pm >76E24, 30N19, Patiala, Punjab, India > >I will study the chart and give details later. >Thanks >Prabha >

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Nikhlesh,

 

Isn't Root karaka the 8th lord from the karaka house? So in this case it won't be LoA but Lord of 8th from A.

 

Satish

 

 

 

nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 6:25:54 AMRe: A chart to study date of marriage

 

 

09.11.08Dear Group Members, Here is my attempt on validating the marriage date on the chart posted by Prabha ji.Native: Female, 02.08.1983, 12:15 pm, 30.N.19, 76.E.24Query by Prabhaji : Validation of Marriage date 8th Dec 2008Judgment of happiness in marriage:1. Lord of Asc & lord of 7th from it Ve & Ma are 3:11 in natal chart. Lord of Moon sign & 7th from it Ma & Ve are 3:11 in natal chart.Lord of Sun sign & 7th from it Mo & Sa are 1:7 in natal chart Put together these manage 50 points.2. The point difference in 1st & 7th house is very little.3. None of planets except Sa aspects house A,B,C, and this Sa is also neutral.4. Ma & Ve both are free from Sa aspect.5. There is no aspect

of the 6th lord Ju on the 7th house.6. The distance between Su & Ve is between 3 to 43 degrees which is okay and Ve is not in any problematic Nks (Nakshatra).So all in all there would be happiness in marriage except one point that the root karak for marriage (lord of house A) is placed 8th from the house A. And this Ma is in the Nks of the 6th lord. So may be there is some particular cause which might bring in gloom in an otherwise happy marriage.Delay factors & deriving the marriage date:1. There is Sa delay because Sa is seeing house B in natal chart and Sa is placed in house C of Navansh.2. There is no Jupiter delay in this chart.3. So there is only full delay of Sa. This Sa is 5Li49. So the delay of Sa is over when Sa crossed 6 degrees in sign Leo in transit.This occurred on 26th Aug 2007. So as far as

obstruction from Sa was concerned, it was over on 26th Aug 2007. May be the period after that facilitated the groom selection.4. Till Dec 2007 she was running in the AD of Ketu. Her Ketu is working like Ma & Me. Here Me is LoE for 7th house. There were chances that AD of Ketu gave marriage. But Ketu is also conjoined with Ju which is L12 for 7th house. Normally L12 planets do not give good results and here except for one big cause, unhappiness in marriage is not seen in the chart.5. The next AD was of Ve. Here Ve is SD to Me which is LoE for 7th house marriage. So Ve is destined to come forward to give the good result which was to be given by Me.6. Here it must be noted that when the AD of Me came in her life (Dec 2005 to May 2007) the marriage did not happen because at that time the Saturn delay was not over. It got over in Aug 2007.7. There

is no zero in the SAV chart. But the marriage did not happen in the 1st sector (Dec 2007 to July 2008). It could be because Ve is associated with 6th lord Ju in the Navansh. So the 6th lord delayed the event a bit, imparting whatever efect it could.8. The marriage therefore got to happen in the 2nd sector of Ve (July 08 to Jan 2009). Dec 08th comes in this period.9. Me,Ve & Ju are planets which have high points both from 7th & 2nd house of her chart from Asc. If we try to bring in a combination between transit of Sun and these 3 planets, we find that on the 8th Dec 2008, Su will be in the Nks of Me. Here Me is LoE both from Asc & Sun. Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of Sun and Me will be in the sign of Ju.10. So the marriage date 8th Dec 2008 is validated through KAS laws.Regards,Nikhlesh MathurOn Sun, 09 Nov 2008

prabha.acharya wrote :>Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,>This is a chart of a female doctor. Her marriage is scheduled on>8th dec this year.>Birth details are>2nd august 1983>12:15 pm>76E24, 30N19, Patiala, Punjab, India>>I will study the chart and give details later.>Thanks>Prabha>

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Dear Ramesh ji,

 

I am also getting Asc at 10 Li 1 and Sa is placed in Ascendant.

So Sa is seeing house B.

 

In navansh Sa is placed in house C (11th house). So there is full delay by Saturn.

 

Yes, I agree thee is no delay due to Ju, which I also mentioned in my analysis.

But there is definitely full delay by Saturn.

 

Is it not so when Sa is in 1st house of the chart?

Your guidance awaited please.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

>Dear Nikhlesh Ji and all,

>There is no delay either by Sa or Ju.

>Asc. is 10 Li 1 as obtained by Anup Ji.

>Ramesh Mishra

>

>nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote:

>

> 09.11.08

>

> Dear Group Members,

>

> Here is my attempt on validating the marriage date on the chart posted by Prabha ji.

>

> Native: Female, 02.08.1983, 12:15 pm, 30.N.19, 76.E.24

>

> Query by Prabhaji : Validation of Marriage date 8th Dec 2008

>

> Judgment of happiness in marriage:

>

> 1. Lord of Asc & lord of 7th from it Ve & Ma are 3:11 in natal chart. Lord of Moon sign & 7th from it Ma & Ve are 3:11 in natal chart.Lord of Sun sign & 7th from it Mo & Sa are 1:7 in natal chart

>

> Put together these manage 50 points.

>

> 2. The point difference in 1st & 7th house is very little.

>

> 3. None of planets except Sa aspects house A,B,C, and this Sa is also neutral.

>

> 4. Ma & Ve both are free from Sa aspect.

>

> 5. There is no aspect of the 6th lord Ju on the 7th house.

>

> 6. The distance between Su & Ve is between 3 to 43 degrees which is okay and Ve is not in any problematic Nks (Nakshatra).

>

> So all in all there would be happiness in marriage except one point that the root karak for marriage (lord of house A) is placed 8th from the house A.

>

> And this Ma is in the Nks of the 6th lord. So may be there is some particular cause which might bring in gloom in an otherwise happy marriage.

>

> Delay factors & deriving the marriage date:

>

> 1. There is Sa delay because Sa is seeing house B in natal chart and Sa is placed in house C of Navansh.

>

> 2. There is no Jupiter delay in this chart.

>

> 3. So there is only full delay of Sa. This Sa is 5Li49. So the delay of Sa is over when Sa crossed 6 degrees in sign Leo in transit.

>

> This occurred on 26th Aug 2007. So as far as obstruction from Sa was concerned, it was over on 26th Aug 2007. May be the period after that facilitated the groom selection.

>

> 4. Till Dec 2007 she was running in the AD of Ketu. Her Ketu is working like Ma & Me. Here Me is LoE for 7th house. There were chances that AD of Ketu gave marriage. But Ketu is also conjoined with Ju which is L12 for 7th house. Normally L12 planets do not give good results and here except for one big cause, unhappiness in marriage is not seen in the chart.

>

> 5. The next AD was of Ve. Here Ve is SD to Me which is LoE for 7th house marriage. So Ve is destined to come forward to give the good result which was to be given by Me.

>

> 6. Here it must be noted that when the AD of Me came in her life (Dec 2005 to May 2007) the marriage did not happen because at that time the Saturn delay was not over. It got over in Aug 2007.

>

> 7. There is no zero in the SAV chart. But the marriage did not happen in the 1st sector (Dec 2007 to July 2008). It could be because Ve is associated with 6th lord Ju in the Navansh. So the 6th lord delayed the event a bit, imparting whatever efect it could.

>

> 8. The marriage therefore got to happen in the 2nd sector of Ve (July 08 to Jan 2009). Dec 08th comes in this period.

>

> 9. Me,Ve & Ju are planets which have high points both from 7th & 2nd house of her chart from Asc. If we try to bring in a combination between transit of Sun and these 3 planets, we find that on the 8th Dec 2008, Su will be in the Nks of Me. Here Me is LoE both from Asc & Sun. Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of Sun and Me will be in the sign of Ju.

>

> 10. So the marriage date 8th Dec 2008 is validated through KAS laws.

>

> Regards,

> Nikhlesh Mathur

>

>

>

>

>

> On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

> >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,

> >This is a chart of a female doctor. Her marriage is scheduled on

> >8th dec this year.

> >Birth details are

> >2nd august 1983

> >12:15 pm

> >76E24, 30N19, Patiala, Punjab, India

> >

> >I will study the chart and give details later.

> >Thanks

> >Prabha

> >

>

>

>

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Dear Nikhlesh Ji,I repeat it. To cause delay by Sa, Sa must aspect either all the three house A,B and C or loa, lob, loc in rasi or navamsa..If Sa aspects all the three houses A,B,C in navamsa then also full delay is considered.In this chart Sa aspects house B for 7th as B and LoC Sun but Sa does not aspect house A or LoA Ma in rasi and navamsa.So there is no full delay by Sa.I think this is clear now.Thanks and regards.Ramesh Mishranikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: Dear Ramesh

ji, I am also getting Asc at 10 Li 1 and Sa is placed in Ascendant. So Sa is seeing house B. In navansh Sa is placed in house C (11th house). So there is full delay by Saturn. Yes, I agree thee is no delay due to Ju, which I also mentioned in my analysis. But there is definitely full delay by Saturn. Is it not so when Sa is in 1st house of the chart? Your guidance awaited please. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 ramesh mishra wrote : >Dear Nikhlesh Ji and all, >There is no delay either by Sa or Ju. >Asc. is 10 Li 1 as obtained by Anup Ji. >Ramesh Mishra > >nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > 09.11.08 > > Dear Group Members, > > Here is my attempt on

validating the marriage date on the chart posted by Prabha ji. > > Native: Female, 02.08.1983, 12:15 pm, 30.N.19, 76.E.24 > > Query by Prabhaji : Validation of Marriage date 8th Dec 2008 > > Judgment of happiness in marriage: > > 1. Lord of Asc & lord of 7th from it Ve & Ma are 3:11 in natal chart. Lord of Moon sign & 7th from it Ma & Ve are 3:11 in natal chart.Lord of Sun sign & 7th from it Mo & Sa are 1:7 in natal chart > > Put together these manage 50 points. > > 2. The point difference in 1st & 7th house is very little. > > 3. None of planets except Sa aspects house A,B,C, and this Sa is also neutral. > > 4. Ma & Ve both are free from Sa aspect. > > 5. There is no aspect of the 6th lord

Ju on the 7th house. > > 6. The distance between Su & Ve is between 3 to 43 degrees which is okay and Ve is not in any problematic Nks (Nakshatra). > > So all in all there would be happiness in marriage except one point that the root karak for marriage (lord of house A) is placed 8th from the house A. > > And this Ma is in the Nks of the 6th lord. So may be there is some particular cause which might bring in gloom in an otherwise happy marriage. > > Delay factors & deriving the marriage date: > > 1. There is Sa delay because Sa is seeing house B in natal chart and Sa is placed in house C of Navansh. > > 2. There is no Jupiter delay in this chart. > > 3. So there is only full delay of Sa. This Sa is 5Li49. So the delay of Sa is over when Sa crossed 6 degrees in sign Leo in

transit. > > This occurred on 26th Aug 2007. So as far as obstruction from Sa was concerned, it was over on 26th Aug 2007. May be the period after that facilitated the groom selection. > > 4. Till Dec 2007 she was running in the AD of Ketu. Her Ketu is working like Ma & Me. Here Me is LoE for 7th house. There were chances that AD of Ketu gave marriage. But Ketu is also conjoined with Ju which is L12 for 7th house. Normally L12 planets do not give good results and here except for one big cause, unhappiness in marriage is not seen in the chart. > > 5. The next AD was of Ve. Here Ve is SD to Me which is LoE for 7th house marriage. So Ve is destined to come forward to give the good result which was to be given by Me. > > 6. Here it must be noted that when the AD of Me came in her life (Dec 2005 to May 2007) the marriage did not happen because at

that time the Saturn delay was not over. It got over in Aug 2007. > > 7. There is no zero in the SAV chart. But the marriage did not happen in the 1st sector (Dec 2007 to July 2008). It could be because Ve is associated with 6th lord Ju in the Navansh. So the 6th lord delayed the event a bit, imparting whatever efect it could. > > 8. The marriage therefore got to happen in the 2nd sector of Ve (July 08 to Jan 2009). Dec 08th comes in this period. > > 9. Me,Ve & Ju are planets which have high points both from 7th & 2nd house of her chart from Asc. If we try to bring in a combination between transit of Sun and these 3 planets, we find that on the 8th Dec 2008, Su will be in the Nks of Me. Here Me is LoE both from Asc & Sun. Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of Sun and Me will be in the sign of Ju. > > 10. So the marriage date

8th Dec 2008 is validated through KAS laws. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote : > >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members, > >This is a chart of a female doctor. Her marriage is scheduled on > >8th dec this year. > >Birth details are > >2nd august 1983 > >12:15 pm > >76E24, 30N19, Patiala, Punjab, India > > > >I will study the chart and give details later. > >Thanks > >Prabha > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.

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Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,

I studied the chart and got similar results as Mr. Nikhilesh. Except

I get Asc as 8Lib14 and KAY as 22:44:22.

I always come up with doubts while studying charts.

In this chart too why did the female is getting married when Su is

transitting Scorpio? Ma is with less than 12 points. She could

have got married when Su was transitting Taurus(Nks Mo),

Cancer (Nks Sa/Me), Virgo(Nks Mo), Capricorn(Nks Mo).

Thanks

Prabha

PS Mr. Nikhilesh has given " Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of

Sun and Me will be in the sign of Ju. " ---- Do we see the planetary

positions too with Sun's transit to come to a conclusion of an

event.

 

 

, ramesh

mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Nikhlesh Ji,

> I repeat it. To cause delay by Sa, Sa must aspect either all the

three house A,B and C or loa, lob, loc in rasi or navamsa..

> If Sa aspects all the three houses A,B,C in navamsa then also

full delay is considered.

> In this chart Sa aspects house B for 7th as B and LoC Sun but

Sa does not aspect house A or LoA Ma in rasi and navamsa.

> So there is no full delay by Sa.

> I think this is clear now.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh ji,

>

> I am also getting Asc at 10 Li 1 and Sa is placed in

Ascendant.

> So Sa is seeing house B.

>

> In navansh Sa is placed in house C (11th house). So there is

full delay by Saturn.

>

> Yes, I agree thee is no delay due to Ju, which I also mentioned

in my analysis.

> But there is definitely full delay by Saturn.

>

> Is it not so when Sa is in 1st house of the chart?

> Your guidance awaited please.

>

> Regards,

> Nikhlesh Mathur

>

> On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

> >Dear Nikhlesh Ji and all,

> >There is no delay either by Sa or Ju.

> >Asc. is 10 Li 1 as obtained by Anup Ji.

> >Ramesh Mishra

> >

> >nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote:

> >

> > 09.11.08

> >

> > Dear Group Members,

> >

> > Here is my attempt on validating the marriage date

on the chart posted by Prabha ji.

> >

> > Native: Female, 02.08.1983, 12:15 pm, 30.N.19, 76.E.24

> >

> > Query by Prabhaji : Validation of Marriage date 8th Dec 2008

> >

> > Judgment of happiness in marriage:

> >

> > 1. Lord of Asc & lord of 7th from it Ve & Ma are 3:11 in

natal chart. Lord of Moon sign & 7th from it Ma & Ve are 3:11 in

natal chart.Lord of Sun sign & 7th from it Mo & Sa are 1:7 in

natal chart

> >

> > Put together these manage 50 points.

> >

> > 2. The point difference in 1st & 7th house is very little.

> >

> > 3. None of planets except Sa aspects house A,B,C, and

this Sa is also neutral.

> >

> > 4. Ma & Ve both are free from Sa aspect.

> >

> > 5. There is no aspect of the 6th lord Ju on the 7th house.

> >

> > 6. The distance between Su & Ve is between 3 to 43

degrees which is okay and Ve is not in any problematic Nks

(Nakshatra).

> >

> > So all in all there would be happiness in marriage except one

point that the root karak for marriage (lord of house A) is placed

8th from the house A.

> >

> > And this Ma is in the Nks of the 6th lord. So may be there is

some particular cause which might bring in gloom in an otherwise

happy marriage.

> >

> > Delay factors & deriving the marriage date:

> >

> > 1. There is Sa delay because Sa is seeing house B in natal

chart and Sa is placed in house C of Navansh.

> >

> > 2. There is no Jupiter delay in this chart.

> >

> > 3. So there is only full delay of Sa. This Sa is 5Li49. So the

delay of Sa is over when Sa crossed 6 degrees in sign Leo in

transit.

> >

> > This occurred on 26th Aug 2007. So as far as obstruction

from Sa was concerned, it was over on 26th Aug 2007. May be

the period after that facilitated the groom selection.

> >

> > 4. Till Dec 2007 she was running in the AD of Ketu. Her

Ketu is working like Ma & Me. Here Me is LoE for 7th house.

There were chances that AD of Ketu gave marriage. But Ketu is

also conjoined with Ju which is L12 for 7th house. Normally L12

planets do not give good results and here except for one big

cause, unhappiness in marriage is not seen in the chart.

> >

> > 5. The next AD was of Ve. Here Ve is SD to Me which is

LoE for 7th house marriage. So Ve is destined to come forward to

give the good result which was to be given by Me.

> >

> > 6. Here it must be noted that when the AD of Me came in

her life (Dec 2005 to May 2007) the marriage did not happen

because at that time the Saturn delay was not over. It got over in

Aug 2007.

> >

> > 7. There is no zero in the SAV chart. But the marriage did

not happen in the 1st sector (Dec 2007 to July 2008). It could be

because Ve is associated with 6th lord Ju in the Navansh. So the

6th lord delayed the event a bit, imparting whatever efect it could.

> >

> > 8. The marriage therefore got to happen in the 2nd sector

of Ve (July 08 to Jan 2009). Dec 08th comes in this period.

> >

> > 9. Me,Ve & Ju are planets which have high points both

from 7th & 2nd house of her chart from Asc. If we try to bring in a

combination between transit of Sun and these 3 planets, we find

that on the 8th Dec 2008, Su will be in the Nks of Me. Here Me is

LoE both from Asc & Sun. Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of Sun

and Me will be in the sign of Ju.

> >

> > 10. So the marriage date 8th Dec 2008 is validated through

KAS laws.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

> > >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,

> > >This is a chart of a female doctor. Her marriage is scheduled

on

> > >8th dec this year.

> > >Birth details are

> > >2nd august 1983

> > >12:15 pm

> > >76E24, 30N19, Patiala, Punjab, India

> > >

> > >I will study the chart and give details later.

> > >Thanks

> > >Prabha

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Ramesh ji,

 

Thanks a million for correcting me.

 

Uptil now I was thinking that the full delay of Sa will be there if Sa aspects any of the 3 houses A,B, or C or any one of its lords in either natal or navansh.

 

But now I have changed my notes that for causing full delay, Sa has to aspect all 3 houses A,B,C, or aspect LoA, LoB or LoC in natal or navansh.

 

Thanks again for it.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

PS : I am not getting some of the mails of this forum since 8th Nov. For example I did not get the mail of the analysis I posted on Prabhaji's query. Neither I got this mail of Ramesh ji. I happen to read this mail of Ramesh ji as Prabha ji fortunately replied on Ramesh ji's answer and that reached me.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

> , ramesh

>mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nikhlesh Ji,

> > I repeat it. To cause delay by Sa, Sa must aspect either all the

>three house A,B and C or loa, lob, loc in rasi or navamsa..

> > If Sa aspects all the three houses A,B,C in navamsa then also

>full delay is considered.

> > In this chart Sa aspects house B for 7th as B and LoC Sun but

>Sa does not aspect house A or LoA Ma in rasi and navamsa.

> > So there is no full delay by Sa.

> > I think this is clear now.

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramesh ji,

> >

> > I am also getting Asc at 10 Li 1 and Sa is placed in

>Ascendant.

> > So Sa is seeing house B.

> >

> > In navansh Sa is placed in house C (11th house). So there is

>full delay by Saturn.

> >

> > Yes, I agree thee is no delay due to Ju, which I also mentioned

>in my analysis.

> > But there is definitely full delay by Saturn.

> >

> > Is it not so when Sa is in 1st house of the chart?

> > Your guidance awaited please.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> > On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

> > >Dear Nikhlesh Ji and all,

> > >There is no delay either by Sa or Ju.

> > >Asc. is 10 Li 1 as obtained by Anup Ji.

> > >Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > >nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote:

> > >

> > > 09.11.08

> > >

> > > Dear Group Members,

> > >

> > > Here is my attempt on validating the marriage date

>on the chart posted by Prabha ji.

> > >

> > > Native: Female, 02.08.1983, 12:15 pm, 30.N.19, 76.E.24

> > >

> > > Query by Prabhaji : Validation of Marriage date 8th Dec 2008

> > >

> > > Judgment of happiness in marriage:

> > >

> > > 1. Lord of Asc & lord of 7th from it Ve & Ma are 3:11 in

>natal chart. Lord of Moon sign & 7th from it Ma & Ve are 3:11 in

>natal chart.Lord of Sun sign & 7th from it Mo & Sa are 1:7 in

>natal chart

> > >

> > > Put together these manage 50 points.

> > >

> > > 2. The point difference in 1st & 7th house is very little.

> > >

> > > 3. None of planets except Sa aspects house A,B,C, and

>this Sa is also neutral.

> > >

> > > 4. Ma & Ve both are free from Sa aspect.

> > >

> > > 5. There is no aspect of the 6th lord Ju on the 7th house.

> > >

> > > 6. The distance between Su & Ve is between 3 to 43

>degrees which is okay and Ve is not in any problematic Nks

>(Nakshatra).

> > >

> > > So all in all there would be happiness in marriage except one

>point that the root karak for marriage (lord of house A) is placed

>8th from the house A.

> > >

> > > And this Ma is in the Nks of the 6th lord. So may be there is

>some particular cause which might bring in gloom in an otherwise

>happy marriage.

> > >

> > > Delay factors & deriving the marriage date:

> > >

> > > 1. There is Sa delay because Sa is seeing house B in natal

>chart and Sa is placed in house C of Navansh.

> > >

> > > 2. There is no Jupiter delay in this chart.

> > >

> > > 3. So there is only full delay of Sa. This Sa is 5Li49. So the

>delay of Sa is over when Sa crossed 6 degrees in sign Leo in

>transit.

> > >

> > > This occurred on 26th Aug 2007. So as far as obstruction

> from Sa was concerned, it was over on 26th Aug 2007. May be

>the period after that facilitated the groom selection.

> > >

> > > 4. Till Dec 2007 she was running in the AD of Ketu. Her

>Ketu is working like Ma & Me. Here Me is LoE for 7th house.

>There were chances that AD of Ketu gave marriage. But Ketu is

>also conjoined with Ju which is L12 for 7th house. Normally L12

>planets do not give good results and here except for one big

>cause, unhappiness in marriage is not seen in the chart.

> > >

> > > 5. The next AD was of Ve. Here Ve is SD to Me which is

>LoE for 7th house marriage. So Ve is destined to come forward to

>give the good result which was to be given by Me.

> > >

> > > 6. Here it must be noted that when the AD of Me came in

>her life (Dec 2005 to May 2007) the marriage did not happen

>because at that time the Saturn delay was not over. It got over in

>Aug 2007.

> > >

> > > 7. There is no zero in the SAV chart. But the marriage did

>not happen in the 1st sector (Dec 2007 to July 2008). It could be

>because Ve is associated with 6th lord Ju in the Navansh. So the

>6th lord delayed the event a bit, imparting whatever efect it could.

> > >

> > > 8. The marriage therefore got to happen in the 2nd sector

>of Ve (July 08 to Jan 2009). Dec 08th comes in this period.

> > >

> > > 9. Me,Ve & Ju are planets which have high points both

> from 7th & 2nd house of her chart from Asc. If we try to bring in a

>combination between transit of Sun and these 3 planets, we find

>that on the 8th Dec 2008, Su will be in the Nks of Me. Here Me is

>LoE both from Asc & Sun. Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of Sun

>and Me will be in the sign of Ju.

> > >

> > > 10. So the marriage date 8th Dec 2008 is validated through

>KAS laws.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

> > > >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,

> > > >This is a chart of a female doctor. Her marriage is scheduled

>on

> > > >8th dec this year.

> > > >Birth details are

> > > >2nd august 1983

> > > >12:15 pm

> > > >76E24, 30N19, Patiala, Punjab, India

> > > >

> > > >I will study the chart and give details later.

> > > >Thanks

> > > >Prabha

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them

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Hello Prabha Ji,This happens because after opening the saved chart you are not going to natal data entry page and not correcting either date or time of birth.Therefore go to the natal data entry page change either the date or time of birth and again bring it to the original date or time of birth. You will get the correct ascendant of the chart.There is bug in the program so you have to go to this page and amend it.As your question is about the transit of Sun, there may be slight deviations due to other reasons like muhurat settings, availability of hall and other factors.The marriage date is fixed when Sun will transit in the sign of Sc and in the nakshtra of Me. Here Ma is LoA and LoB and Me is LoEShe is now 25+. As you have mentioned she is a doctor so according to desh, kaal and paatra it is not a delayed marriage.Her lagna has 28 SAV points and she seems to have brilliant student in her studies because her memory seems to be

sharp.The marriage is fixed in her Ve antra. Ve is SD to Me (LoE ).She attained the age of 18 during Ra antra and then following Ju antra is 12th lord of house B for 7th so Ju is inappropriate to furnish her marriage.Next following Sa antra could have given her marriage but it did not do so.Sa is LoD for 7th and aspects Mo. Sa also aspects Su. This way a natural malefic planet aspects both luminaries and enhanced the period of marriage.During this time native might might not be interested in her marriage due to her career enhancement.You may confirm this from native.Following Me antra also could have furnished the marriage but this Me is in 6th house in navamsa.Now the turn comes to Ke antara. Ke is again associated with Ju the 6th lord and he is SD to Ma and Me. Both of these planet occupy 6th in navamsa.Next Ve antara is all the way appropriage to represent Me and the marriage is thus fixed.The marriage is fixed in second

sector of Ve. It could have been in the first sector also.Hope I may be correct in reasoning out the marriage date.Thanks and regards.Ramesh Mishra"prabha.acharya" <prabha.acharya wrote: Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members, I studied the chart and got similar results as Mr. Nikhilesh. Except I get Asc as 8Lib14 and KAY as 22:44:22. I always come up with doubts while studying charts. In this chart too why did the female is getting married when Su is transitting Scorpio? Ma is with less than 12 points.

She could have got married when Su was transitting Taurus(Nks Mo), Cancer (Nks Sa/Me), Virgo(Nks Mo), Capricorn(Nks Mo). Thanks Prabha PS Mr. Nikhilesh has given "Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of Sun and Me will be in the sign of Ju." ---- Do we see the planetary positions too with Sun's transit to come to a conclusion of an event. , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Nikhlesh Ji, > I repeat it. To cause delay by Sa, Sa must aspect either all the three house A,B and C or loa, lob, loc in rasi or navamsa.. > If Sa aspects all the three houses A,B,C in navamsa then also full delay is considered. > In this chart Sa aspects house B for 7th as B and LoC Sun but Sa does not aspect house A or LoA Ma in rasi and navamsa.

> So there is no full delay by Sa. > I think this is clear now. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > I am also getting Asc at 10 Li 1 and Sa is placed in Ascendant. > So Sa is seeing house B. > > In navansh Sa is placed in house C (11th house). So there is full delay by Saturn. > > Yes, I agree thee is no delay due to Ju, which I also mentioned in my analysis. > But there is definitely full delay by Saturn. > > Is it not so when Sa is in 1st house of the chart? > Your guidance awaited please. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 ramesh mishra wrote : > >Dear Nikhlesh Ji and all, > >There is no delay

either by Sa or Ju. > >Asc. is 10 Li 1 as obtained by Anup Ji. > >Ramesh Mishra > > > >nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > > 09.11.08 > > > > Dear Group Members, > > > > Here is my attempt on validating the marriage date on the chart posted by Prabha ji. > > > > Native: Female, 02.08.1983, 12:15 pm, 30.N.19, 76.E.24 > > > > Query by Prabhaji : Validation of Marriage date 8th Dec 2008 > > > > Judgment of happiness in marriage: > > > > 1. Lord of Asc & lord of 7th from it Ve & Ma are 3:11 in natal chart. Lord of Moon sign & 7th from it Ma & Ve are 3:11 in natal chart.Lord of Sun sign & 7th from it Mo & Sa are 1:7 in natal chart > > > > Put together these manage 50

points. > > > > 2. The point difference in 1st & 7th house is very little. > > > > 3. None of planets except Sa aspects house A,B,C, and this Sa is also neutral. > > > > 4. Ma & Ve both are free from Sa aspect. > > > > 5. There is no aspect of the 6th lord Ju on the 7th house. > > > > 6. The distance between Su & Ve is between 3 to 43 degrees which is okay and Ve is not in any problematic Nks (Nakshatra). > > > > So all in all there would be happiness in marriage except one point that the root karak for marriage (lord of house A) is placed 8th from the house A. > > > > And this Ma is in the Nks of the 6th lord. So may be there is some particular cause which might bring in gloom in an otherwise happy marriage. > > > > Delay

factors & deriving the marriage date: > > > > 1. There is Sa delay because Sa is seeing house B in natal chart and Sa is placed in house C of Navansh. > > > > 2. There is no Jupiter delay in this chart. > > > > 3. So there is only full delay of Sa. This Sa is 5Li49. So the delay of Sa is over when Sa crossed 6 degrees in sign Leo in transit. > > > > This occurred on 26th Aug 2007. So as far as obstruction from Sa was concerned, it was over on 26th Aug 2007. May be the period after that facilitated the groom selection. > > > > 4. Till Dec 2007 she was running in the AD of Ketu. Her Ketu is working like Ma & Me. Here Me is LoE for 7th house. There were chances that AD of Ketu gave marriage. But Ketu is also conjoined with Ju which is L12 for 7th house. Normally L12 planets do not give good

results and here except for one big cause, unhappiness in marriage is not seen in the chart. > > > > 5. The next AD was of Ve. Here Ve is SD to Me which is LoE for 7th house marriage. So Ve is destined to come forward to give the good result which was to be given by Me. > > > > 6. Here it must be noted that when the AD of Me came in her life (Dec 2005 to May 2007) the marriage did not happen because at that time the Saturn delay was not over. It got over in Aug 2007. > > > > 7. There is no zero in the SAV chart. But the marriage did not happen in the 1st sector (Dec 2007 to July 2008). It could be because Ve is associated with 6th lord Ju in the Navansh. So the 6th lord delayed the event a bit, imparting whatever efect it could. > > > > 8. The marriage therefore got to happen in the 2nd sector of Ve (July 08 to Jan

2009). Dec 08th comes in this period. > > > > 9. Me,Ve & Ju are planets which have high points both from 7th & 2nd house of her chart from Asc. If we try to bring in a combination between transit of Sun and these 3 planets, we find that on the 8th Dec 2008, Su will be in the Nks of Me. Here Me is LoE both from Asc & Sun. Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of Sun and Me will be in the sign of Ju. > > > > 10. So the marriage date 8th Dec 2008 is validated through KAS laws. > > > > Regards, > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote : > > >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members, > > >This is a chart of a female doctor. Her marriage is scheduled on > > >8th dec this year. > > >Birth details are > > >2nd august 1983 > > >12:15 pm > > >76E24, 30N19, Patiala, Punjab, India > > > > > >I will study the chart and give details later. > > >Thanks > > >Prabha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. >

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Dear

Nikhlesh ji,

 

Yes,

I too have experienced that I haven’t received all mails that were posted on

list by others and me. Maybe its some

glitch.

 

In

any case, the past few mails posted on list have come to my mail box.

 

Keep

and eye out and occasionally check the list just to be sure till fixes

this glitch.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of nikhlesh mathur

Monday November 10, 2008

1:11 AM

To:

 

Re: Re:

A chart to study date of marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh ji,

 

Thanks a million for

correcting me.

 

Uptil now I was thinking that the full delay of Sa will be there if Sa aspects

any of the 3 houses A,B, or C or any one of its lords in either natal or

navansh.

 

But now I have changed my notes that for causing full delay, Sa has to aspect

all 3 houses A,B,C, or aspect LoA, LoB or LoC in natal or navansh.

 

Thanks again for it.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

PS : I am not getting some of the mails of this forum since 8th Nov. For

example I did not get the mail of the analysis I posted on Prabhaji's query.

Neither I got this mail of Ramesh ji. I happen to read this mail of Ramesh ji

as Prabha ji fortunately replied on Ramesh ji's answer and that reached me.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

> , ramesh

>mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nikhlesh Ji,

> > I repeat it. To cause delay by Sa, Sa must aspect either all the

>three house A,B and C or loa, lob, loc in rasi or navamsa..

> > If Sa aspects all the three houses A,B,C in navamsa then also

>full delay is considered.

> > In this chart Sa aspects house B for 7th as B and LoC Sun but

>Sa does not aspect house A or LoA Ma in rasi and navamsa.

> > So there is no full delay by Sa.

> > I think this is clear now.

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramesh ji,

> >

> > I am also

getting Asc at 10 Li 1 and Sa is placed in

>Ascendant.

> > So Sa is seeing house B.

> >

> > In navansh Sa is placed in house C (11th house). So there is

>full delay by Saturn.

> >

> > Yes, I agree thee is no delay due to Ju, which I also mentioned

>in my analysis.

> > But there is definitely full delay by Saturn.

> >

> > Is it not so when Sa is in 1st house of the chart?

> > Your guidance awaited please.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> > On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

> > >Dear Nikhlesh Ji and all,

> > >There is no delay either by Sa or Ju.

> > >Asc. is 10 Li 1 as obtained by Anup Ji.

> > >Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > >nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote:

> > >

> > > 09.11.08

> > >

> > > Dear Group Members,

> > >

> > >

Here is my attempt on validating the marriage date

>on the chart posted by Prabha ji.

> > >

> > > Native: Female, 02.08.1983, 12:15 pm, 30.N.19,

76.E.24

> > >

> > > Query by Prabhaji : Validation of Marriage date 8th

Dec 2008

> > >

> > > Judgment of happiness in marriage:

> > >

> > > 1. Lord of Asc & lord of 7th from

it Ve & Ma are 3:11 in

>natal chart. Lord of Moon sign & 7th from it Ma & Ve are 3:11 in

>natal chart.Lord of Sun sign & 7th from it Mo & Sa are 1:7 in

>natal chart

> > >

> > > Put together these manage 50 points.

> > >

> > > 2. The point difference in 1st &

7th house is very little.

> > >

> > > 3. None of planets except Sa aspects

house A,B,C, and

>this Sa is also neutral.

> > >

> > > 4. Ma & Ve both are free from Sa

aspect.

> > >

> > > 5. There is no aspect of the 6th lord

Ju on the 7th house.

> > >

> > > 6. The distance between Su & Ve is

between 3 to 43

>degrees which is okay and Ve is not in any problematic Nks

>(Nakshatra).

> > >

> > > So all in all there would be happiness in marriage

except one

>point that the root karak for marriage (lord of house A) is placed

>8th from the house A.

> > >

> > > And this Ma is in the Nks of the 6th lord. So may be

there is

>some particular cause which might bring in gloom in an otherwise

>happy marriage.

> > >

> > > Delay factors & deriving the marriage date:

> > >

> > > 1. There is Sa delay because Sa is

seeing house B in natal

>chart and Sa is placed in house C of Navansh.

> > >

> > > 2. There is no Jupiter delay in this

chart.

> > >

> > > 3. So there is only full delay of Sa.

This Sa is 5Li49. So the

>delay of Sa is over when Sa crossed 6 degrees in sign Leo in

>transit.

> > >

> > > This occurred on 26th Aug 2007. So as far as

obstruction

> from Sa was concerned, it was over on 26th Aug 2007. May be

>the period after that facilitated the groom selection.

> > >

> > > 4. Till Dec 2007 she was running in the

AD of Ketu. Her

>Ketu is working like Ma & Me. Here Me is LoE for 7th house.

>There were chances that AD of Ketu gave marriage. But Ketu is

>also conjoined with Ju which is L12 for 7th house. Normally L12

>planets do not give good results and here except for one big

>cause, unhappiness in marriage is not seen in the chart.

> > >

> > > 5. The next AD was of Ve. Here Ve is SD

to Me which is

>LoE for 7th house marriage. So Ve is destined to come forward to

>give the good result which was to be given by Me.

> > >

> > > 6. Here it must be noted that

when the AD of Me came in

>her life (Dec 2005 to May 2007) the marriage did not happen

>because at that time the Saturn delay was not over. It got over in

>Aug 2007.

> > >

> > > 7. There is no zero in the SAV chart.

But the marriage did

>not happen in the 1st sector (Dec 2007 to July 2008). It could be

>because Ve is associated with 6th lord Ju in the Navansh. So the

>6th lord delayed the event a bit, imparting whatever efect it could.

> > >

> > > 8. The marriage therefore got to happen

in the 2nd sector

>of Ve (July 08 to Jan 2009). Dec 08th comes in this period.

> > >

> > > 9. Me,Ve & Ju are planets which

have high points both

> from 7th & 2nd house of her chart from Asc. If we try to bring in a

>combination between transit of Sun and these 3 planets, we find

>that on the 8th Dec 2008, Su will be in the Nks of Me. Here Me is

>LoE both from Asc & Sun. Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of Sun

>and Me will be in the sign of Ju.

> > >

> > > 10. So the marriage date 8th Dec 2008

is validated through

>KAS laws.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

> > > >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,

> > > >This is a chart of a female doctor. Her marriage

is scheduled

>on

> > > >8th dec this year.

> > > >Birth details are

> > > >2nd august 1983

> > > >12:15 pm

> > > >76E24, 30N19, Patiala, Punjab, India

> > > >

> > > >I will study the chart and give details later.

> > > >Thanks

> > > >Prabha

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear

Prabha ji,

 

Sun’s

transit is important for furnishing event. We will select the proper antra and then give

thought on selecting the proper sector and then within that sector we will

select the probable dates when an event can take place, so that is based on

transit of sun.

 

Now,

with our WS we get the power of planets for all 12 house. Therefore, when Sun transit the sign and

nakshatra of powerful planets as per the WS then there is a probability of

event taking place.

 

For

marriage, and in India or else where in the world, there are further factors

like Mahurata or availability of Wedding hall and now a days, people prefer to

have weddings on a weekend where guests can come as life has gotten very busy

otherwise.

 

So

we must keep all such things in mind and apply all laws with intelligence and

practical.

 

For

example we are studying job, then in places where there is a holiday on weekend

like north America we must keep that in mind, in some countries Friday and

Saturday are holidays then we must keep that in mind when studying charts as on

those days everyone has a day off so less chances of decisions being taken.

 

There

is also a 13 day window i.e. +/- 13 days toleration we are taking in KAS. So this also must be kept in mind. When solving more and more charts, u might

encounter that in some charts u might find events happening in that 13 day

window from the strongest Significators.

 

These

are just for guidance.

 

Cheers !!!

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On Behalf Of prabha.acharya

Sunday November 9, 2008

11:51 PM

 

Re:

A chart to study date of marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,

I studied the chart and got similar results as Mr. Nikhilesh. Except

I get Asc as 8Lib14 and KAY as 22:44:22.

I always come up with doubts while studying charts.

In this chart too why did the female is getting married when Su is

transitting Scorpio? Ma is with less than 12 points. She could

have got married when Su was transitting Taurus(Nks Mo),

Cancer (Nks Sa/Me), Virgo(Nks Mo), Capricorn(Nks Mo).

Thanks

Prabha

PS Mr. Nikhilesh has given " Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of

Sun and Me will be in the sign of Ju. " ---- Do we see the planetary

positions too with Sun's transit to come to a conclusion of an

event.

 

,

ramesh

mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Nikhlesh Ji,

> I repeat it. To cause delay by Sa, Sa must aspect either all the

three house A,B and C or loa, lob, loc in rasi or navamsa..

> If Sa aspects all the three houses A,B,C in navamsa then also

full delay is considered.

> In this chart Sa aspects house B for 7th as B and LoC Sun but

Sa does not aspect house A or LoA Ma in rasi and navamsa.

> So there is no full delay by Sa.

> I think this is clear now.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh ji,

>

> I am also getting Asc at 10 Li 1 and Sa is placed in

Ascendant.

> So Sa is seeing house B.

>

> In navansh Sa is placed in house C (11th house). So there is

full delay by Saturn.

>

> Yes, I agree thee is no delay due to Ju, which I also mentioned

in my analysis.

> But there is definitely full delay by Saturn.

>

> Is it not so when Sa is in 1st house of the chart?

> Your guidance awaited please.

>

> Regards,

> Nikhlesh Mathur

>

> On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

> >Dear Nikhlesh Ji and all,

> >There is no delay either by Sa or Ju.

> >Asc. is 10 Li 1 as obtained by Anup Ji.

> >Ramesh Mishra

> >

> >nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote:

> >

> > 09.11.08

> >

> > Dear Group Members,

> >

> > Here is my attempt on validating the marriage date

on the chart posted by Prabha ji.

> >

> > Native: Female, 02.08.1983, 12:15 pm, 30.N.19, 76.E.24

> >

> > Query by Prabhaji : Validation of Marriage date 8th Dec 2008

> >

> > Judgment of happiness in marriage:

> >

> > 1. Lord of Asc & lord of 7th from it Ve & Ma are 3:11 in

natal chart. Lord of Moon sign & 7th from it Ma & Ve are 3:11 in

natal chart.Lord of Sun sign & 7th from it Mo & Sa are 1:7 in

natal chart

> >

> > Put together these manage 50 points.

> >

> > 2. The point difference in 1st & 7th house is very little.

> >

> > 3. None of planets except Sa aspects house A,B,C, and

this Sa is also neutral.

> >

> > 4. Ma & Ve both are free from Sa aspect.

> >

> > 5. There is no aspect of the 6th lord Ju on the 7th house.

> >

> > 6. The distance between Su & Ve is between 3 to 43

degrees which is okay and Ve is not in any problematic Nks

(Nakshatra).

> >

> > So all in all there would be happiness in marriage except one

point that the root karak for marriage (lord of house A) is placed

8th from the house A.

> >

> > And this Ma is in the Nks of the 6th lord. So may be there is

some particular cause which might bring in gloom in an otherwise

happy marriage.

> >

> > Delay factors & deriving the marriage date:

> >

> > 1. There is Sa delay because Sa is seeing house B in natal

chart and Sa is placed in house C of Navansh.

> >

> > 2. There is no Jupiter delay in this chart.

> >

> > 3. So there is only full delay of Sa. This Sa is 5Li49. So the

delay of Sa is over when Sa crossed 6 degrees in sign Leo in

transit.

> >

> > This occurred on 26th Aug 2007. So as far as obstruction

from Sa was concerned, it was over on 26th Aug 2007. May be

the period after that facilitated the groom selection.

> >

> > 4. Till Dec 2007 she was running in the AD of Ketu. Her

Ketu is working like Ma & Me. Here Me is LoE for 7th house.

There were chances that AD of Ketu gave marriage. But Ketu is

also conjoined with Ju which is L12 for 7th house. Normally L12

planets do not give good results and here except for one big

cause, unhappiness in marriage is not seen in the chart.

> >

> > 5. The next AD was of Ve. Here Ve is SD to Me which is

LoE for 7th house marriage. So Ve is destined to come forward to

give the good result which was to be given by Me.

> >

> > 6. Here it must be noted that when the AD of Me came in

her life (Dec 2005 to May 2007) the marriage did not happen

because at that time the Saturn delay was not over. It got over in

Aug 2007.

> >

> > 7. There is no zero in the SAV chart. But the marriage did

not happen in the 1st sector (Dec 2007 to July 2008). It could be

because Ve is associated with 6th lord Ju in the Navansh. So the

6th lord delayed the event a bit, imparting whatever efect it could.

> >

> > 8. The marriage therefore got to happen in the 2nd sector

of Ve (July 08 to Jan 2009). Dec 08th comes in this period.

> >

> > 9. Me,Ve & Ju are planets which have high points both

from 7th & 2nd house of her chart from Asc. If we try to bring in a

combination between transit of Sun and these 3 planets, we find

that on the 8th Dec 2008, Su will be in the Nks of Me. Here Me is

LoE both from Asc & Sun. Both Ju & Ve will be in the Nks of Sun

and Me will be in the sign of Ju.

> >

> > 10. So the marriage date 8th Dec 2008 is validated through

KAS laws.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

> > >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, List members,

> > >This is a chart of a female doctor. Her marriage is scheduled

on

> > >8th dec this year.

> > >Birth details are

> > >2nd august 1983

> > >12:15 pm

> > >76E24, 30N19, Patiala, Punjab, India

> > >

> > >I will study the chart and give details later.

> > >Thanks

> > >Prabha

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,

This is a chart of a male:

DOB 24/12/1953

TOB 12.05pm

POB Rasipuram, Tamil Nadu, India.

11N28, 78E10

 

To find the date of marriage.

He is married and has a 18yr old son.

 

Thanks

Prabha

[Guest guest]

Dear Prabha, Did this native marry in the month of Jun/1982 ? There is no delay either by Sa or Jup. There is no blessings also. Regards. Ramesh Mishra"prabha.acharya" <prabha.acharya wrote: Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,This is a chart of a male:DOB 24/12/1953TOB 12.05pmPOB Rasipuram, Tamil Nadu, India. 11N28, 78E10To find the date of marriage.He is married and has a 18yr old

son.ThanksPrabha

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18.11.2008

Question by Prabha ji: 24.12.53,12:05 pm, 11.N.28, 78.E.10

Asc: 6Pi58

Marriage when:

 

Mt attempt at it;

 

1. There are no zeros in the chart.

 

2. Sa is aspecting only house A,but there is no delay by Sa.

 

3. Ju is aspecting house B and LoB in both natal & Navansh. So there is Ju delay in the chart. Ju is in the sign belonging to Ve in the natal chart.

 

4. Ve is spoilt as it is in the Mol Nks. It is further spoilt as it is aspected by Sa in both natal & Navansh. Ve is also associated with 6th lord in natal chart.Uptil March 1986 the native was in the MD of Ve.

 

5. Except Ma & Ju, all planets have more than 12 points for 7th house.

 

6. General marriage happiness is not seen in the chart as lord of Asc & lord of 7th ie Ju & Me are 1:7, Moon sign lord Moon is 4:10 to 7th lord from Moon, Sun sign lord Me is 1:7 to 7th lord Me from it. The 1st house points are on the higher side which shows egoistic attitude in marital relations.

 

7. The 5th house and the lord of 5th house are affected by Sa & Ra and this definitely shows delay in child. Now we need to judge whether the delay in child is due to delay in marriage or delay do to biological / medical reasons. In male chart if 11th house & 8th house are affected it creates problem in child birth. Here both are affected by Ma & Ra.

 

8. The 7th lord Ve is affected by Sa, then by 6th lord and then by the virtue of it being in Mool Nks. The presence of Ma with fewer points in 8th house also disturbs reproductive capability. Further, both Ma & Sa are in the Nks of Rahu.

 

9. Let us first try to evaluate the marriage date.

 

10. Me & Sa are LoD & LoE for 7th house matters. So both should be eager to give marriage in their AD’s, particularly in the MD of Ve. This means that marriage could have happened during Jan 1979 to Feb 1980 (sector-1 of AD of Sa) or from March 1982 to March 1083(sector-1 of AD of Me). There are no zeros in the chart, so I am presuming sector-1 in both cases.

 

But both Me & Sa have high points for 7th house. And marriage happiness is not seen here. This is contradictory.

 

Hence marriage must not have happened in the AD of SA or Me.

 

11. We have also observed that there is less happiness in marital life and therefore marriage might have happened in a low power planet. This could be Ju. But the AD of Ju completed in Jan1979 ( 25 yrs age) and Ju delay was not over by that time.

 

12. Here Ketu is working like Ju and AD of Ketu was from Jan 1985 to March 1986. In 1985 (say in March 1985) Ju was in Capricorn and hence aspecting the 7th house.

 

13. So I believe that marriage might have happened in the period Jan 1985 to June 1985. The birth of child must have got further delayed.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

>Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,

>This is a chart of a male:

>DOB 24/12/1953

>TOB 12.05pm

>POB Rasipuram, Tamil Nadu, India.

> 11N28, 78E10

>

>To find the date of marriage.

>He is married and has a 18yr old son.

>

>Thanks

>Prabha

>

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Marriage seems to be in complete age of 25.. i mean Between dec 1978 to december 1979. Month of May-June 1979 looks good to me for marriage.

 

Please revert.

On 18/11/2008, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,This is a chart of a male:DOB 24/12/1953TOB 12.05pmPOB Rasipuram, Tamil Nadu, India. 11N28, 78E10To find the date of marriage.He is married and has a 18yr old son.

ThanksPrabha -- Sumit BajajContact: +91-98300-84593

astrosumitbajaj.blogspot.com Id: sumitbajaj2000

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Dear Prabha ji,

 

I am getting lagna 6 Pi 58.

 

Could you write few past events if possible.

Altering time of birth for few minutes can cause full saturn delay.

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 18/11/08, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya wrote:

prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya A chart to study date of marriage Date: Tuesday, 18 November, 2008, 9:35 AM

 

 

Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,This is a chart of a male:DOB 24/12/1953TOB 12.05pmPOB Rasipuram, Tamil Nadu, India. 11N28, 78E10To find the date of marriage.He is married and has a 18yr old son.ThanksPrabha

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Dear

Sumit ji,

 

In

future, please give the details behind your prediction using KAS on the

calculation of delay and the selection of period.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sumit Bajaj

Tuesday November 18, 2008

5:31 AM

To:

 

Re:

A chart to study date of marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marriage seems to be in

complete age of 25.. i mean Between dec 1978 to december 1979. Month of

May-June 1979 looks good to me for marriage.

 

 

 

 

 

Please revert.

 

 

 

 

On

18/11/2008, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya wrote:

 

 

 

 

Respected Guruji, Ash ji,

and List members,

This is a chart of a male:

DOB 24/12/1953

TOB 12.05pm

POB Rasipuram, Tamil Nadu, India.

11N28, 78E10

 

To find the date of marriage.

He is married and has a 18yr old son.

 

Thanks

Prabha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--

Sumit Bajaj

Contact: +91-98300-84593

astrosumitbajaj.blogspot.com

Id: sumitbajaj2000

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Respected Guruji, Ash ji and List members,

The person married on 19 August 1981.

This is in the 3rd sector of Sa AD.

Mr. Nikhilesh has given detailed analysis of the chart. According

to me there are few more points as:

1. Sa aspects house A

2. Sa is with LoA.

3. Sa is the LoC.

The above points gives the delay. But since Ju (unrelated to Sa)

aspects LoB in D1 and D9.

Sa also aspects both the luminaries i.e. Mo and Su.

Unhappiness in marriage is there (which both husband and wife

will sustain) but more than that after the child was born this

person stopped talking to his wife. He used only sign language to

talk. Only for past 2 yrs he is talking.

As, regards to delayin birth of the child ----- yes the son was born

on 16/1/1987.

Also if one sees this native's Mo is in own house of Cancer and

spoilt by 10th aspect of Sa and in Ra/Ke axis. Mo is in

conjunction with Sa in D9 further spoiling it. This person is an

IAS officer. Very down-to-earth person. Strict. Man of few words.

Reads lot of books mainly religious books. Due to his Mo he is

often though depressed.

In Navamsha, Drekkana, and trimshamsha:

3 sector in Ju, 2 sector in Sa, Me and 1 sector in Ma

shows that he is very religious and intellect is sharp and

photographic memory.

Thanks

Prabha

 

, " nikhlesh

mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote:

>

> 18.11.2008  

> Question by Prabha ji: 24.12.53,12:05 pm, 11.N.28, 78.E.10

> Asc: 6Pi58

> Marriage when:

>

> Mt attempt at it;

>

> 1. There are no zeros in the chart.

>

> 2. Sa is aspecting only house A,but there is no delay by Sa.

>

> 3. Ju is aspecting house B and LoB in both natal & Navansh.

So there is Ju delay in the chart. Ju is in the sign belonging to Ve

in the natal chart.

>

> 4. Ve is spoilt as it is in the Mol Nks. It is further spoilt as it is

aspected by Sa in both natal & Navansh. Ve is also associated

with 6th lord in natal chart.Uptil March 1986 the native was in the

MD of Ve.

>

> 5. Except Ma & Ju, all planets have more than 12 points for 7th

house.

>

> 6. General marriage happiness is not seen in the chart as lord of

Asc & lord of 7th ie Ju & Me are 1:7, Moon sign lord Moon is

4:10 to 7th lord from Moon, Sun sign lord Me is 1:7 to 7th lord Me

from it. The 1st house points are on the higher side which shows

egoistic attitude in marital relations.

>

> 7. The 5th house and the lord of 5th house are affected by Sa &

Ra and this definitely shows delay in child. Now we need to judge

whether the delay in child is due to delay in marriage or delay do

to biological / medical reasons. In male chart if 11th house & 8th

house are affected it creates problem in child birth. Here both are

affected by Ma & Ra.

>

> 8. The 7th lord Ve is affected by Sa, then by 6th lord and then

by the virtue of it being in Mool Nks. The presence of Ma with

fewer points in 8th house also disturbs reproductive capability.

Further, both Ma & Sa are in the Nks of Rahu.

>

> 9. Let us first try to evaluate the marriage date.

>

> 10. Me & Sa are LoD & LoE for 7th house matters. So both

should be eager to give marriage in their AD's, particularly in the

MD of Ve. This means that marriage could have happened during

Jan 1979 to Feb 1980 (sector-1 of AD of Sa) or from March 1982 to

March 1083(sector-1 of AD of Me). There are no zeros in the

chart, so I am presuming sector-1 in both cases.

>

> But both Me & Sa have high points for 7th house. And

marriage happiness is not seen here. This is contradictory.

>

> Hence marriage must not have happened in the AD of SA or

Me.

>

> 11. We have also observed that there is less happiness in

marital life and therefore marriage might have happened in a low

power planet. This could be Ju. But the AD of Ju completed in

Jan1979 ( 25 yrs age) and Ju delay was not over by that time.

>

> 12. Here Ketu is working like Ju and AD of Ketu was from

Jan 1985 to March 1986. In 1985 (say in March 1985) Ju was in

Capricorn and hence aspecting the 7th house.

>

> 13. So I believe that marriage might have happened in the

period Jan 1985 to June 1985. The birth of child must have got

further delayed.

>

> Regards,

> Nikhlesh Mathur

>

>

>

>

>

> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

> >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,

> >This is a chart of a male:

> >DOB 24/12/1953

> >TOB 12.05pm

> >POB Rasipuram, Tamil Nadu, India.

> > 11N28, 78E10

> >

> >To find the date of marriage.

> >He is married and has a 18yr old son.

> >

> >Thanks

> >Prabha

> >

>

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Respected Guruji, Ash ji and List members,

The time of birth is correct. I can get more details later for

verification of birth time. He was a Bank employee and after

marriage his wife encouraged him to sit for IAS and he got

through.

Thanks

Prabha

,

" prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya wrote:

>

> Respected Guruji, Ash ji and List members,

> The person married on 19 August 1981.

> This is in the 3rd sector of Sa AD.

> Mr. Nikhilesh has given detailed analysis of the chart.

According

> to me there are few more points as:

> 1. Sa aspects house A

> 2. Sa is with LoA.

> 3. Sa is the LoC.

> The above points gives the delay. But since Ju (unrelated to Sa)

> aspects LoB in D1 and D9.

> Sa also aspects both the luminaries i.e. Mo and Su.

> Unhappiness in marriage is there (which both husband and wife

> will sustain) but more than that after the child was born this

> person stopped talking to his wife. He used only sign language

to

> talk. Only for past 2 yrs he is talking.

> As, regards to delayin birth of the child ----- yes the son was

born

> on 16/1/1987.

> Also if one sees this native's Mo is in own house of Cancer and

> spoilt by 10th aspect of Sa and in Ra/Ke axis. Mo is in

> conjunction with Sa in D9 further spoiling it. This person is an

> IAS officer. Very down-to-earth person. Strict. Man of few

words.

> Reads lot of books mainly religious books. Due to his Mo he is

> often though depressed.

> In Navamsha, Drekkana, and trimshamsha:

> 3 sector in Ju, 2 sector in Sa, Me and 1 sector in Ma

> shows that he is very religious and intellect is sharp and

> photographic memory.

> Thanks

> Prabha

>

> , " nikhlesh

> mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> >

> > 18.11.2008  

> > Question by Prabha ji: 24.12.53,12:05 pm, 11.N.28, 78.E.10

> > Asc: 6Pi58

> > Marriage when:

> >

> > Mt attempt at it;

> >

> > 1. There are no zeros in the chart.

> >

> > 2. Sa is aspecting only house A,but there is no delay by

Sa.

> >

> > 3. Ju is aspecting house B and LoB in both natal &

Navansh.

> So there is Ju delay in the chart. Ju is in the sign belonging to

Ve

> in the natal chart.

> >

> > 4. Ve is spoilt as it is in the Mol Nks. It is further spoilt as it

is

> aspected by Sa in both natal & Navansh. Ve is also associated

> with 6th lord in natal chart.Uptil March 1986 the native was in

the

> MD of Ve.

> >

> > 5. Except Ma & Ju, all planets have more than 12 points for

7th

> house.

> >

> > 6. General marriage happiness is not seen in the chart as

lord of

> Asc & lord of 7th ie Ju & Me are 1:7, Moon sign lord Moon is

> 4:10 to 7th lord from Moon, Sun sign lord Me is 1:7 to 7th lord

Me

> from it. The 1st house points are on the higher side which

shows

> egoistic attitude in marital relations.

> >

> > 7. The 5th house and the lord of 5th house are affected by

Sa &

> Ra and this definitely shows delay in child. Now we need to

judge

> whether the delay in child is due to delay in marriage or delay

do

> to biological / medical reasons. In male chart if 11th house & 8th

> house are affected it creates problem in child birth. Here both

are

> affected by Ma & Ra.

> >

> > 8. The 7th lord Ve is affected by Sa, then by 6th lord and

then

> by the virtue of it being in Mool Nks. The presence of Ma with

> fewer points in 8th house also disturbs reproductive capability.

> Further, both Ma & Sa are in the Nks of Rahu.

> >

> > 9. Let us first try to evaluate the marriage date.

> >

> > 10. Me & Sa are LoD & LoE for 7th house matters. So both

> should be eager to give marriage in their AD's, particularly in

the

> MD of Ve. This means that marriage could have happened

during

> Jan 1979 to Feb 1980 (sector-1 of AD of Sa) or from March 1982

to

> March 1083(sector-1 of AD of Me). There are no zeros in the

> chart, so I am presuming sector-1 in both cases.

> >

> > But both Me & Sa have high points for 7th house. And

> marriage happiness is not seen here. This is contradictory.

> >

> > Hence marriage must not have happened in the AD of SA or

> Me.

> >

> > 11. We have also observed that there is less happiness in

> marital life and therefore marriage might have happened in a low

> power planet. This could be Ju. But the AD of Ju completed in

> Jan1979 ( 25 yrs age) and Ju delay was not over by that time.

> >

> > 12. Here Ketu is working like Ju and AD of Ketu was from

> Jan 1985 to March 1986. In 1985 (say in March 1985) Ju was in

> Capricorn and hence aspecting the 7th house.

> >

> > 13. So I believe that marriage might have happened in the

> period Jan 1985 to June 1985. The birth of child must have got

> further delayed.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

> > >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,

> > >This is a chart of a male:

> > >DOB 24/12/1953

> > >TOB 12.05pm

> > >POB Rasipuram, Tamil Nadu, India.

> > > 11N28, 78E10

> > >

> > >To find the date of marriage.

> > >He is married and has a 18yr old son.

> > >

> > >Thanks

> > >Prabha

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear

Prabha ji,

 

I

have one input on the lines of what Anup ji has queried.

 

 

If

the time is a bit more i.e. 12:16 instead of 12:05 means 11 mins difference

then Sa is in 5th house in Navamsa. This will show delay due to Sa. Saturn is at 14 Li 32 and if we take

delay of 27 as max delay then delay of Sa will be over about 26 years of age

and that time Sa antra runs and Sa is LoE so it can give marriage and eagerly. That is one scenario.

 

If

the current time is correct then there is no delay due to Sa and Ju so at 21 years

i.e. legal age antra of Rahu i.e. 2nd sector was running. Ra represents Sa and Su and is more like

Sun. So it might not give marriage

and if the native was studying then there might be delay due to the fact that the

person / family might want the native to finish graduation before marriage.

 

After

that antra of Ju is there and that is weak so that can’t give marriage

and then after that Sa who is LoE can give.

 

Now

in both scenarios Sa antra might give.

So here intelligence factor might be also important.

 

With

12:05 birth time

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

D9

 

 

D3

 

 

D30

 

 

 

 

Lg

 

 

Me

 

 

Ju

 

 

Me

 

 

 

 

Su

 

 

Me

 

 

Ju

 

 

Sa

 

 

 

 

Mo

 

 

Sa

 

 

Ju

 

 

Ma

 

 

 

 

 

With

12:16 birth time

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

D9

 

 

D3

 

 

D30

 

 

 

 

Lg

 

 

Ve

 

 

Mo

 

 

Me

 

 

 

 

Su

 

 

Me

 

 

Ju

 

 

Sa

 

 

 

 

Mo

 

 

Sa

 

 

Ju

 

 

Ma

 

 

 

 

So

u get 2 sectors of Sa and 2 of Mercury compared to 2 Sa and 3 Mercury and 3 Ju.

 

The

reason I am pointing out is that you can also do this exercise for birth time

rectification.

 

 

Yes,

Venus is spoilt by being in Mool and Sa is aspecting

Venus and both luminary. Moon is

with Sa and aspected by Ra.

 

This

persons DBCE points are in rising order as well from Moon.

 

Very

good analysis by Nikhlesh ji. I will reply to his email separately.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of prabha.acharya

Tuesday November 18, 2008

12:01 PM

To:

 

Subject:

Re: A chart to study date of marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Guruji, Ash ji and List members,

The person married on 19 August 1981.

This is in the 3rd sector of Sa AD.

Mr. Nikhilesh has given detailed analysis of the chart. According

to me there are few more points as:

1. Sa aspects house A

2. Sa is with LoA.

3. Sa is the LoC.

The above points gives the delay. But since Ju (unrelated to Sa)

aspects LoB in D1 and D9.

Sa also aspects both the luminaries i.e. Mo and Su.

Unhappiness in marriage is there (which both husband and wife

will sustain) but more than that after the child was born this

person stopped talking to his wife. He used only sign language to

talk. Only for past 2 yrs he is talking.

As, regards to delayin birth of the child ----- yes the son was born

on 16/1/1987.

Also if one sees this native's Mo is in own house of Cancer and

spoilt by 10th aspect of Sa and in Ra/Ke axis. Mo is in

conjunction with Sa in D9 further spoiling it. This person is an

IAS officer. Very down-to-earth person. Strict. Man of few words.

Reads lot of books mainly religious books. Due to his Mo he is

often though depressed.

In Navamsha, Drekkana, and trimshamsha:

3 sector in Ju, 2 sector in Sa, Me and 1 sector in Ma

shows that he is very religious and intellect is sharp and

photographic memory.

Thanks

Prabha

 

,

" nikhlesh

mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote:

>

> 18.11.2008

> Question by Prabha ji: 24.12.53,12:05 pm, 11.N.28, 78.E.10

> Asc: 6Pi58

> Marriage when:

>

> Mt attempt at it;

>

> 1. There are no zeros in the chart.

>

> 2. Sa is aspecting only house A,but there is no delay by Sa.

>

> 3. Ju is aspecting house B and LoB in both natal & Navansh.

So there is Ju delay in the chart. Ju is in the sign belonging to Ve

in the natal chart.

>

> 4. Ve is spoilt as it is in the Mol Nks. It is further spoilt as it is

aspected by Sa in both natal & Navansh. Ve is also associated

with 6th lord in natal chart.Uptil March 1986 the native was in the

MD of Ve.

>

> 5. Except Ma & Ju, all planets have more than 12 points for 7th

house.

>

> 6. General marriage happiness is not seen in the chart as lord of

Asc & lord of 7th ie Ju & Me are 1:7, Moon sign lord Moon is

4:10 to 7th lord from Moon, Sun sign lord Me is 1:7 to 7th lord Me

from it. The 1st house points are on the higher side which shows

egoistic attitude in marital relations.

>

> 7. The 5th house and the lord of 5th house are affected by Sa &

Ra and this definitely shows delay in child. Now we need to judge

whether the delay in child is due to delay in marriage or delay do

to biological / medical reasons. In male chart if 11th house & 8th

house are affected it creates problem in child birth. Here both are

affected by Ma & Ra.

>

> 8. The 7th lord Ve is affected by Sa, then by 6th lord and then

by the virtue of it being in Mool Nks. The presence of Ma with

fewer points in 8th house also disturbs reproductive capability.

Further, both Ma & Sa are in the Nks of Rahu.

>

> 9. Let us first try to evaluate the marriage date.

>

> 10. Me & Sa are LoD & LoE for 7th house matters. So both

should be eager to give marriage in their AD's, particularly in the

MD of Ve. This means that marriage could have happened during

Jan 1979 to Feb 1980 (sector-1 of AD of Sa) or from March 1982 to

March 1083(sector-1 of AD of Me). There are no zeros in the

chart, so I am presuming sector-1 in both cases.

>

> But both Me & Sa have high points for 7th house. And

marriage happiness is not seen here. This is contradictory.

>

> Hence marriage must not have happened in the AD of SA or

Me.

>

> 11. We have also observed that there is less happiness in

marital life and therefore marriage might have happened in a low

power planet. This could be Ju. But the AD of Ju completed in

Jan1979 ( 25 yrs age) and Ju delay was not over by that time.

>

> 12. Here Ketu is working like Ju and AD of Ketu was from

Jan 1985 to March 1986. In 1985 (say in March 1985) Ju was in

Capricorn and hence aspecting the 7th house.

>

> 13. So I believe that marriage might have happened in the

period Jan 1985 to June 1985. The birth of child must have got

further delayed.

>

> Regards,

> Nikhlesh Mathur

>

>

>

>

>

> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

> >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,

> >This is a chart of a male:

> >DOB 24/12/1953

> >TOB 12.05pm

> >POB Rasipuram, Tamil Nadu, India.

> > 11N28, 78E10

> >

> >To find the date of marriage.

> >He is married and has a 18yr old son.

> >

> >Thanks

> >Prabha

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear

Nikhlesh ji and Prabha ji,

 

Very

good analysis. So you did come to

Sa antra and Me antra.

 

Yes,

one thing, when there is 1:7 relation between lagna and 7th lord

then it means opposition or more like dominating. When there are disputes then its 6:8 or

2:12 relation.

 

So

overall there is less happiness and also as u have observed clearly about the

status of Natural karak venus

who is spoilt by being in mool and being aspected by

Sa and Sa also aspects both luminaries.

 

Also

about the nature of the person, his moon is aspected by Rahu and its with Sa

making him more detached and also whimsical and persistent about things as he

has more sectors of Sa and Me.

 

There

is also 6:8 between lagna and 9th so blessing factor is not

there. Native might be away or

might have less happiness from father maybe due to living away from father in

early age or separation from father.

If Prabha ji can

find out it will be good.

 

Therefore

for timing of event, LoD and LoE are eager. That has to be kept in mind. If they get a chance they will try to

give the event and that too eagerly.

Here even if Sa was causing delay or say delay causing if the time was

12:16 still then it would try to give the marriage in the 1st sector

itself as our laws is that “if the delay causing planet, itself is lod or loe then it will try to

give the event in 1st sector or early”.

 

So

if Prabha ji can find out

when his marriage was fixed and was the delay due to mahurat or some other man

made factors it will also be good learning.

 

This

is a very interesting chart, so keep this finding in mind when studying other

charts. You will find that LoD and

LoE are very eager to give event if they get a chance.

 

The

marriage quality is not good, but marriage has sustained and they have a child

together as well. So on the whole

marriage happened in LoE was good but quality was poor.

 

Yes,

one more thing, now that we know the career is as IAS officer, Ju and Me and Ma

are main career giving planets.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of nikhlesh mathur

Tuesday November 18, 2008

5:17 AM

To:

 

Re:

A chart to study date of marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

18.11.2008

 

Question by Prabha ji: 24.12.53,12:05 pm, 11.N.28, 78.E.10

Asc: 6Pi58

Marriage when:

 

Mt attempt at it;

 

1. There are no zeros in the chart.

 

2. Sa is aspecting only house A,but there is no delay by Sa.

 

3. Ju is aspecting house B and LoB in both natal &

Navansh. So there is Ju delay in the chart. Ju is in the sign belonging to Ve

in the natal chart.

 

4. Ve is spoilt as it is in the Mol Nks. It is further

spoilt as it is aspected by Sa in both natal & Navansh. Ve is also

associated with 6th lord in natal chart.Uptil March 1986 the native was in the

MD of Ve.

 

5. Except Ma & Ju, all planets have more than 12 points

for 7th house.

 

6. General marriage happiness is not seen in the chart as

lord of Asc & lord of 7th ie Ju & Me are 1:7, Moon sign lord Moon is

4:10 to 7th lord from Moon, Sun sign lord Me is 1:7 to 7th lord Me from it. The

1st house points are on the higher side which shows egoistic attitude in

marital relations.

 

7. The 5th house and the lord of 5th house are affected by

Sa & Ra and this definitely shows delay in child. Now we need to judge

whether the delay in child is due to delay in marriage or delay do to

biological / medical reasons. In male chart if 11th house & 8th house are

affected it creates problem in child birth. Here both are affected by Ma &

Ra.

 

8. The 7th lord Ve is affected by Sa, then by 6th lord and

then by the virtue of it being in Mool Nks. The presence of Ma with fewer

points in 8th house also disturbs reproductive capability. Further, both Ma

& Sa are in the Nks of Rahu.

 

9. Let us first try to evaluate the marriage date.

 

10. Me & Sa are LoD & LoE for 7th house matters. So

both should be eager to give marriage in their AD’s, particularly in the

MD of Ve. This means that marriage could have happened during Jan 1979 to Feb

1980 (sector-1 of AD of Sa) or from March 1982 to March 1083(sector-1 of AD of

Me). There are no zeros in the chart, so I am presuming sector-1 in both cases.

 

 

But both Me & Sa have high points for 7th house. And marriage happiness is

not seen here. This is contradictory.

 

Hence marriage must not have happened in the AD of SA or Me.

 

11. We have also observed that there is less happiness in

marital life and therefore marriage might have happened in a low power planet.

This could be Ju. But the AD of Ju completed in Jan1979 ( 25 yrs age) and Ju

delay was not over by that time.

 

12. Here Ketu is working like Ju and AD of Ketu was from Jan

1985 to March 1986. In 1985 (say in March 1985) Ju was in Capricorn and hence

aspecting the 7th house.

 

13. So I believe that marriage might have happened in the

period Jan 1985 to June 1985. The birth of child must have got further delayed.

 

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

>Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,

>This is a chart of a male:

>DOB 24/12/1953

>TOB 12.05pm

>POB Rasipuram, Tamil Nadu, India.

> 11N28, 78E10

>

>To find the date of marriage.

>He is married and has a 18yr old son.

>

>Thanks

>Prabha

>

 

[Guest guest]

Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,

1. His wife confirms the birth time but is not sure. So time of birth

can be 12.16am.

2. He was away from parents and did his schooling staying in a

hostel.

3. He is also persistent and does things his own way.

4. Other some details are - He worked in a bank (his first job)

around october 1975. He met his wife in 1978 and married her on

19/8/1981. His parents didn't have good relation. His mother

actually left his father in 1975 and because of that he couldn't get

good percentage in graduation.

5. After meeting his wife she encouraged him to study and his

first training for services was on 25/8/1981.

6. Child was born after 6yrs of delay on 16/1/1987.

Thanks

Prabha

PS:- Since we are focussing on date of marriage, is it ok if I post

his wife's details.

, " Ash's

Corner " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Nikhlesh ji and Prabha ji,

>

> Very good analysis. So you did come to Sa antra and Me antra.

>

> Yes, one thing, when there is 1:7 relation between lagna and 7th

lord then

> it means opposition or more like dominating. When there are

disputes then

> its 6:8 or 2:12 relation.

>

> So overall there is less happiness and also as u have observed

clearly about

> the status of Natural karak venus who is spoilt by being in mool

and being

> aspected by Sa and Sa also aspects both luminaries.

>

> Also about the nature of the person, his moon is aspected by

Rahu and its

> with Sa making him more detached and also whimsical and

persistent about

> things as he has more sectors of Sa and Me.

>

> There is also 6:8 between lagna and 9th so blessing factor is not

there.

> Native might be away or might have less happiness from father

maybe due to

> living away from father in early age or separation from father. If

Prabha

> ji can find out it will be good.

>

> Therefore for timing of event, LoD and LoE are eager. That has

to be kept

> in mind. If they get a chance they will try to give the event and

that too

> eagerly. Here even if Sa was causing delay or say delay

causing if the time

> was 12:16 still then it would try to give the marriage in the 1st

sector

> itself as our laws is that " if the delay causing planet, itself is lod

or

> loe then it will try to give the event in 1st sector or early " .

>

> So if Prabha ji can find out when his marriage was fixed and was

the delay

> due to mahurat or some other man made factors it will also be

good learning.

>

> This is a very interesting chart, so keep this finding in mind

when studying

> other charts. You will find that LoD and LoE are very eager to

give event

> if they get a chance.

>

> The marriage quality is not good, but marriage has sustained

and they have a

> child together as well. So on the whole marriage happened in

LoE was good

> but quality was poor.

>

> Yes, one more thing, now that we know the career is as IAS

officer, Ju and

> Me and Ma are main career giving planets.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

> On

Behalf Of nikhlesh

> mathur

> Tuesday November 18, 2008 5:17 AM

>

> Re: A chart to study date

of marriage

>

> 18.11.2008

> Question by Prabha ji: 24.12.53,12:05 pm, 11.N.28, 78.E.10

> Asc: 6Pi58

> Marriage when:

>

> Mt attempt at it;

>

> 1. There are no zeros in the chart.

>

> 2. Sa is aspecting only house A,but there is no delay by Sa.

>

> 3. Ju is aspecting house B and LoB in both natal & Navansh.

So there is

> Ju delay in the chart. Ju is in the sign belonging to Ve in the

natal chart.

>

> 4. Ve is spoilt as it is in the Mol Nks. It is further spoilt as it is

> aspected by Sa in both natal & Navansh. Ve is also associated

with 6th lord

> in natal chart.Uptil March 1986 the native was in the MD of Ve.

>

> 5. Except Ma & Ju, all planets have more than 12 points for

7th house.

>

> 6. General marriage happiness is not seen in the chart as lord

of Asc &

> lord of 7th ie Ju & Me are 1:7, Moon sign lord Moon is 4:10 to

7th lord from

> Moon, Sun sign lord Me is 1:7 to 7th lord Me from it. The 1st

house points

> are on the higher side which shows egoistic attitude in marital

relations.

>

> 7. The 5th house and the lord of 5th house are affected by Sa

& Ra and

> this definitely shows delay in child. Now we need to judge

whether the delay

> in child is due to delay in marriage or delay do to biological /

medical

> reasons. In male chart if 11th house & 8th house are affected it

creates

> problem in child birth. Here both are affected by Ma & Ra.

>

> 8. The 7th lord Ve is affected by Sa, then by 6th lord and then

by the

> virtue of it being in Mool Nks. The presence of Ma with fewer

points in 8th

> house also disturbs reproductive capability. Further, both Ma

& Sa are in

> the Nks of Rahu.

>

> 9. Let us first try to evaluate the marriage date.

>

> 10. Me & Sa are LoD & LoE for 7th house matters. So both

should be eager

> to give marriage in their AD's, particularly in the MD of Ve. This

means

> that marriage could have happened during Jan 1979 to Feb 1980

(sector-1 of

> AD of Sa) or from March 1982 to March 1083(sector-1 of AD of

Me). There are

> no zeros in the chart, so I am presuming sector-1 in both cases.

>

> But both Me & Sa have high points for 7th house. And

marriage happiness is

> not seen here. This is contradictory.

>

> Hence marriage must not have happened in the AD of SA or

Me.

>

> 11. We have also observed that there is less happiness in

marital life

> and therefore marriage might have happened in a low power

planet. This could

> be Ju. But the AD of Ju completed in Jan1979 ( 25 yrs age) and

Ju delay was

> not over by that time.

>

> 12. Here Ketu is working like Ju and AD of Ketu was from Jan

1985 to

> March 1986. In 1985 (say in March 1985) Ju was in Capricorn

and hence

> aspecting the 7th house.

>

> 13. So I believe that marriage might have happened in the

period Jan

> 1985 to June 1985. The birth of child must have got further

delayed.

>

> Regards,

> Nikhlesh Mathur

>

>

>

>

>

> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

> >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,

> >This is a chart of a male:

> >DOB 24/12/1953

> >TOB 12.05pm

> >POB Rasipuram, Tamil Nadu, India.

> > 11N28, 78E10

> >

> >To find the date of marriage.

> >He is married and has a 18yr old son.

> >

> >Thanks

> >Prabha

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Prabha Ji and all, I think you did not read my mail. I had written that the native might have married in the month of Jun/1982. There is a difference of 10 months quite longer difference from that of Aug/1981. Once I too thought of Sa antara but I discarded it with the following reasons. 1.The native lagna SAV point is high with 32 points. 2.His Mo is under the influences of Ra and Ke. 3.His Ve is in Mool nakshtra and aspected by Sa. 4.His both the luminaries are aspected by Sa. 5.His Sa LoE is in 6th house in navamsa. Though Sa is LoE and entitled for giving the result of 7th in its antara, being in 6th house I rejected this antara considering the abovementioned factors which may cause further delay. So I opted Me LoD antara. Moreover Me is in 7th in navamsa. However mistake is mistake. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra"prabha.acharya" <prabha.acharya wrote: Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,1. His wife confirms the birth time but is not sure. So time of birth can be 12.16am.2. He was away from parents and did his schooling staying in a hostel.3. He is also persistent and does things his own way.4. Other some details are - He worked in a bank (his first job) around october 1975. He met his wife in 1978 and married her on 19/8/1981. His parents didn't have good relation. His

mother actually left his father in 1975 and because of that he couldn't get good percentage in graduation. 5. After meeting his wife she encouraged him to study and his first training for services was on 25/8/1981.6. Child was born after 6yrs of delay on 16/1/1987.ThanksPrabhaPS:- Since we are focussing on date of marriage, is it ok if I post his wife's details. , "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear Nikhlesh ji and Prabha ji,> > Very good analysis. So you did come to Sa antra and Me antra.> > Yes, one thing, when there is 1:7 relation between lagna and 7th lord then> it means opposition or more like dominating. When there are disputes then> its 6:8 or 2:12 relation.> > So overall there is less happiness and also as u have

observed clearly about> the status of Natural karak venus who is spoilt by being in mool and being> aspected by Sa and Sa also aspects both luminaries.> > Also about the nature of the person, his moon is aspected by Rahu and its> with Sa making him more detached and also whimsical and persistent about> things as he has more sectors of Sa and Me. > > There is also 6:8 between lagna and 9th so blessing factor is not there.> Native might be away or might have less happiness from father maybe due to> living away from father in early age or separation from father. If Prabha> ji can find out it will be good.> > Therefore for timing of event, LoD and LoE are eager. That has to be kept> in mind. If they get a chance they will try to give the event and that too> eagerly. Here even if Sa was causing delay or say delay causing if the

time> was 12:16 still then it would try to give the marriage in the 1st sector> itself as our laws is that "if the delay causing planet, itself is lod or> loe then it will try to give the event in 1st sector or early". > > So if Prabha ji can find out when his marriage was fixed and was the delay> due to mahurat or some other man made factors it will also be good learning.> > This is a very interesting chart, so keep this finding in mind when studying> other charts. You will find that LoD and LoE are very eager to give event> if they get a chance.> > The marriage quality is not good, but marriage has sustained and they have a> child together as well. So on the whole marriage happened in LoE was good> but quality was poor.> > Yes, one more thing, now that we know the career is as IAS officer, Ju and> Me and Ma are main

career giving planets. > > Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > On Behalf Of nikhlesh> mathur> Tuesday November 18, 2008 5:17 AM> > Re: A chart to study date of marriage> > 18.11.2008 > Question by Prabha ji: 24.12.53,12:05 pm, 11.N.28, 78.E.10> Asc: 6Pi58> Marriage when:> > Mt attempt at it;> > 1. There are

no zeros in the chart.> > 2. Sa is aspecting only house A,but there is no delay by Sa.> > 3. Ju is aspecting house B and LoB in both natal & Navansh. So there is> Ju delay in the chart. Ju is in the sign belonging to Ve in the natal chart.> > 4. Ve is spoilt as it is in the Mol Nks. It is further spoilt as it is> aspected by Sa in both natal & Navansh. Ve is also associated with 6th lord> in natal chart.Uptil March 1986 the native was in the MD of Ve.> > 5. Except Ma & Ju, all planets have more than 12 points for 7th house.> > 6. General marriage happiness is not seen in the chart as lord of Asc & > lord of 7th ie Ju & Me are 1:7, Moon sign lord Moon is 4:10 to 7th lord from> Moon, Sun sign lord Me is 1:7 to 7th lord Me from it. The 1st house points> are on the higher side which shows egoistic attitude in marital

relations.> > 7. The 5th house and the lord of 5th house are affected by Sa & Ra and> this definitely shows delay in child. Now we need to judge whether the delay> in child is due to delay in marriage or delay do to biological / medical> reasons. In male chart if 11th house & 8th house are affected it creates> problem in child birth. Here both are affected by Ma & Ra.> > 8. The 7th lord Ve is affected by Sa, then by 6th lord and then by the> virtue of it being in Mool Nks. The presence of Ma with fewer points in 8th> house also disturbs reproductive capability. Further, both Ma & Sa are in> the Nks of Rahu.> > 9. Let us first try to evaluate the marriage date.> > 10. Me & Sa are LoD & LoE for 7th house matters. So both should be eager> to give marriage in their AD's, particularly in the MD of Ve. This

means> that marriage could have happened during Jan 1979 to Feb 1980 (sector-1 of> AD of Sa) or from March 1982 to March 1083(sector-1 of AD of Me). There are> no zeros in the chart, so I am presuming sector-1 in both cases. > > But both Me & Sa have high points for 7th house. And marriage happiness is> not seen here. This is contradictory. > > Hence marriage must not have happened in the AD of SA or Me.> > 11. We have also observed that there is less happiness in marital life> and therefore marriage might have happened in a low power planet. This could> be Ju. But the AD of Ju completed in Jan1979 ( 25 yrs age) and Ju delay was> not over by that time.> > 12. Here Ketu is working like Ju and AD of Ketu was from Jan 1985 to> March 1986. In 1985 (say in March 1985) Ju was in Capricorn and hence> aspecting the

7th house.> > 13. So I believe that marriage might have happened in the period Jan> 1985 to June 1985. The birth of child must have got further delayed. > > Regards,> Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :> >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,> >This is a chart of a male:> >DOB 24/12/1953> >TOB 12.05pm> >POB Rasipuram, Tamil Nadu, India.> > 11N28, 78E10> >> >To find the date of marriage.> >He is married and has a 18yr old son.> >> >Thanks> >Prabha> >>

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Dear

Ramesh ji,

 

In

your 5th point, that Sa is in 6th house in Navamsa

therefore it cannot give result, might not be correct.

 

Guru

ji has not said that any planet by virtue of being in

6th, 8th or 12th house in D chart will not

give timing of event.  I think Guru ji has given in some mail that its not good to have planet

in 6th, 8th or 12th house in D chart but he

has not given that it cannot give the timing. 

I think Guru ji has said that, the event can

happen but it will be at the cost. 

 

If

someone can find that email it will be good.

 

Rest

all points are well elucidated. 

 

Ramesh ji, your are coming close to the answer

that is also important thing.   Not to

overlook that point as well.

 

For

happy marriage and marital life (quality) you will be able to pin point however

when there are problems in marital life, then more and more thought has to go

into it to judge the event.  This too u

must have noticed by now.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of ramesh mishra

Wednesday November 19, 2008

2:16 AM

 

Re:

Re: A chart to study date of marriage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Prabha Ji and all,

 

 

I think you did not read my

mail. I had written that the native might have married in the month of

Jun/1982.

 

 

There is a difference of 10

months quite longer difference from that of Aug/1981.

 

 

Once I too thought of Sa

antara but I discarded it with the following reasons.

 

 

1.The native lagna SAV point

is high with 32 points.

 

 

2.His Mo is under the

influences of Ra and Ke.

 

 

3.His Ve is in Mool nakshtra

and aspected by Sa.

 

 

4.His both the luminaries are

aspected by Sa.

 

 

5.His Sa LoE is in 6th

house in navamsa. Though Sa is LoE and entitled for giving the result of 7th in

its antara, being in 6th house I rejected this antara considering the

abovementioned factors which may cause further delay.

 

 

So I opted Me LoD antara.

Moreover Me is in 7th in navamsa.

 

 

However mistake is mistake.

 

 

Thanks and regards.

 

 

Ramesh Mishra

 

" prabha.acharya "

<prabha.acharya wrote:

 

 

 

 

Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,

1. His wife confirms the birth time but is not sure. So time of birth

can be 12.16am.

2. He was away from parents and did his schooling staying in a

hostel.

3. He is also persistent and does things his own way.

4. Other some details are - He worked in a bank (his first job)

around october 1975. He met his wife in 1978 and married her on

19/8/1981. His parents didn't have good relation. His mother

actually left his father in 1975 and because of that he couldn't get

good percentage in graduation.

5. After meeting his wife she encouraged him to study and his

first training for services was on 25/8/1981.

6. Child was born after 6yrs of delay on 16/1/1987.

Thanks

Prabha

PS:- Since we are focussing on date of marriage, is it ok if I post

his wife's details.

,

" Ash's

Corner " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Nikhlesh ji and Prabha ji,

>

> Very good analysis. So you did come to Sa antra and Me antra.

>

> Yes, one thing, when there is 1:7 relation between lagna and 7th

lord then

> it means opposition or more like dominating. When there are

disputes then

> its 6:8 or 2:12 relation.

>

> So overall there is less happiness and also as u have observed

clearly about

> the status of Natural karak venus who is spoilt by being in mool

and being

> aspected by Sa and Sa also aspects both luminaries.

>

> Also about the nature of the person, his moon is aspected by

Rahu and its

> with Sa making him more detached and also whimsical and

persistent about

> things as he has more sectors of Sa and Me.

>

> There is also 6:8 between lagna and 9th so blessing factor is not

there.

> Native might be away or might have less happiness from father

maybe due to

> living away from father in early age or separation from father. If

Prabha

> ji can find out it will be good.

>

> Therefore for timing of event, LoD and LoE are eager. That has

to be kept

> in mind. If they get a chance they will try to give the event and

that too

> eagerly. Here even if Sa was causing delay or say delay

causing if the time

> was 12:16 still then it would try to give the marriage in the 1st

sector

> itself as our laws is that " if the delay causing planet, itself is

lod

or

> loe then it will try to give the event in 1st sector or early " .

>

> So if Prabha ji can find out when his marriage was fixed and was

the delay

> due to mahurat or some other man made factors it will also be

good learning.

>

> This is a very interesting chart, so keep this finding in mind

when studying

> other charts. You will find that LoD and LoE are very eager to

give event

> if they get a chance.

>

> The marriage quality is not good, but marriage has sustained

and they have a

> child together as well. So on the whole marriage happened in

LoE was good

> but quality was poor.

>

> Yes, one more thing, now that we know the career is as IAS

officer, Ju and

> Me and Ma are main career giving planets.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

On

Behalf Of nikhlesh

> mathur

> Tuesday November 18, 2008 5:17 AM

>

> Re: A chart to study date

of marriage

>

> 18.11.2008

> Question by Prabha ji: 24.12.53,12:05 pm, 11.N.28, 78.E.10

> Asc: 6Pi58

> Marriage when:

>

> Mt attempt at it;

>

> 1. There are no zeros in the chart.

>

> 2. Sa is aspecting only house A,but there is no delay by Sa.

>

> 3. Ju is aspecting house B and LoB in both natal & Navansh.

So there is

> Ju delay in the chart. Ju is in the sign belonging to Ve in the

natal chart.

>

> 4. Ve is spoilt as it is in the Mol Nks. It is further spoilt as it is

> aspected by Sa in both natal & Navansh. Ve is also associated

with 6th lord

> in natal chart.Uptil March 1986 the native was in the MD of Ve.

>

> 5. Except Ma & Ju, all planets have more than 12 points for

7th house.

>

> 6. General marriage happiness is not seen in the chart as lord

of Asc &

> lord of 7th ie Ju & Me are 1:7, Moon sign lord Moon is 4:10 to

7th lord from

> Moon, Sun sign lord Me is 1:7 to 7th lord Me from it. The 1st

house points

> are on the higher side which shows egoistic attitude in marital

relations.

>

> 7. The 5th house and the lord of 5th house are affected by Sa

& Ra and

> this definitely shows delay in child. Now we need to judge

whether the delay

> in child is due to delay in marriage or delay do to biological /

medical

> reasons. In male chart if 11th house & 8th house are affected it

creates

> problem in child birth. Here both are affected by Ma & Ra.

>

> 8. The 7th lord Ve is affected by Sa, then by 6th lord and then

by the

> virtue of it being in Mool Nks. The presence of Ma with fewer

points in 8th

> house also disturbs reproductive capability. Further, both Ma

& Sa are in

> the Nks of Rahu.

>

> 9. Let us first try to evaluate the marriage date.

>

> 10. Me & Sa are LoD & LoE for 7th house matters. So both

should be eager

> to give marriage in their AD's, particularly in the MD of Ve. This

means

> that marriage could have happened during Jan 1979 to Feb 1980

(sector-1 of

> AD of Sa) or from March 1982 to March 1083(sector-1 of AD of

Me). There are

> no zeros in the chart, so I am presuming sector-1 in both cases.

>

> But both Me & Sa have high points for 7th house. And

marriage happiness is

> not seen here. This is contradictory.

>

> Hence marriage must not have happened in the AD of SA or

Me.

>

> 11. We have also observed that there is less happiness in

marital life

> and therefore marriage might have happened in a low power

planet. This could

> be Ju. But the AD of Ju completed in Jan1979 ( 25 yrs age) and

Ju delay was

> not over by that time.

>

> 12. Here Ketu is working like Ju and AD of Ketu was from Jan

1985 to

> March 1986. In 1985 (say in March 1985) Ju was in Capricorn

and hence

> aspecting the 7th house.

>

> 13. So I believe that marriage might have happened in the

period Jan

> 1985 to June 1985. The birth of child must have got further

delayed.

>

> Regards,

> Nikhlesh Mathur

>

>

>

>

>

> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

> >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List members,

> >This is a chart of a male:

> >DOB 24/12/1953

> >TOB 12.05pm

> >POB Rasipuram, Tamil Nadu, India.

> > 11N28, 78E10

> >

> >To find the date of marriage.

> >He is married and has a 18yr old son.

> >

> >Thanks

> >Prabha

> >

>

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

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