Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Respected Guruji, Ash ji and List members, I have been going through the archives. After reading Mr. Ramesh ji's post dated 19/11/2009, I had a doubt what if SD planet having less points came forward to give results. And Lo and Behold -- /messa ge/8712 Mr Ash ji has asked the same question here following 2 more posts. I haven't found the answers for the same doubts. Thanks Prabha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Dear Prabha ji, Let me explain you in simple words. When any planet is unable to furnish the event due to it's sight on any of the houses like A,B or C then it's samdharmi will step in. In such case even if it is with low points in WS, it may give the event. I hope its clear now. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 19/11/08, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya wrote: prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya Samdharmi with low points in WS Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 3:34 PM Respected Guruji, Ash ji and List members,I have been going through the archives. After reading Mr. Ramesh ji's post dated 19/11/2009, I had a doubt what if SD planet having less points came forward to give results. And Lo and Behold --http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/ message/8712Mr Ash ji has asked the same question here following 2 more posts.I haven't found the answers for the same doubts.ThanksPrabha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Respected Guruji, Ash ji, Anup ji, and List members, Here is the answer to the question I posed and answered by Mr. Ash ji himself in Msg 8800 which I am giving here as it is. Dear Manoshi, Something else came to mind. I think you are thinking that SDs will always step in for primary significator. That is not the case. SDs will only step in if the main planet is not capable due to any reason. Say for example Me was very strong for 5th house and assume its male chart, but the native did not marry in Me antra as he was in delay period, then Say nothing happens in Ketu antra and then say if Venus is SD to Mercury the strongest signficator AND if it has good power means it will be a good samdharmi to Mercury and so Venus can step in that case. Again venus has to be studied carefully. It should not be spoilt. Say think like this, if there are 2 friends in school. One is a nice guy the topper in a class (highest points in WS) and the other chap is a back bencher whos like a dodo and a mischief monger (say a planet with less than 12 points). Now lets called the topper of the class as Planet A and the mischief monger as Planet B. Now in the chart assume both these chaps come in the same sign. So naturally they become samdharmi with means that they are supposed to work together. Or u can say that for a project (child birth) both are supposed to work together. But Planet B will always try to show the class that they are working together (hypocrate) but if he gets a chance he will put planet A into trouble. So it seems that both are working towards the project to make it a success but one chap i.e planet B is not a good friend of Planet A. So he will try to give to show the teacher that he is working but he will fail, so there might be a conceptoin but say if there are other factors like say Rahu and Ma aspecting 11th lord or 5th lord then there might be a miscarriage. So that is why I say that the SD planet also should have good points means that Planet B also should have more than 12 points in WS so in that way he is not playing the role of mischief monger but is genuinly intersted in giving the result. So in that case, say if Planet A falls sick or student A falls sick then student B will take his place and make the project a success. You can only imagine if Student A (the topper) falls sick on the day of project presentation and Student B ( the miscief monger) has to take his place as they are SD (workign on same project) then what will be the final result. I hope u get the essence of what I am trying to expain. Cheers !!! Ash Thanks Prabha , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Prabha ji, >  > Let me explain you in simple words. >  > When any planet is unable to furnish the event due to it's sight > on any of the houses like A,B or C then it's samdharmi will step in. > In such case even if it is with low points in WS, it may give the event. >  > I hope its clear now. >  > Regards > Anup >  >  >  > > > --- On Wed, 19/11/08, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya wrote: > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya > Samdharmi with low points in WS > > Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 3:34 PM Respected Guruji, Ash ji and List members, > I have been going through the archives. After reading Mr. > Ramesh ji's post dated 19/11/2009, I had a doubt what if SD planet > having less points came forward to give results. And Lo and > Behold -- > http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/ messa > ge/8712 > Mr Ash ji has asked the same question here following 2 more > posts. > I haven't found the answers for the same doubts. > Thanks > Prabha > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger./win/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Dear Prabhaji, and other list members, planet 'B' with less points as SD to planet 'A' may give lower quality of result but event may take place during its antra , do u think that here you might have mixed up timing of event and quality of event.This what i interprate ASHJI'S narration. with regardsGDPATEL--- On Thu, 20/11/08, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya wrote: prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya Re: Samdharmi with low points in WS Date: Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 2:19 PM Respected Guruji, Ash ji, Anup ji, and List members,Here is the answer to the question I posed and answered byMr. Ash ji himself in Msg 8800 which I am giving here as it is.Dear Manoshi,Something else came to mind. I think you are thinking that SDs willalways step in for primary significator. That is not the case. SDswill only step in if the main planet is not capable due to anyreason.Say for example Me was very strong for 5th house and assume its malechart, but the native did not marry in Me antra as he was in delayperiod, then Say nothing happens in Ketu antra and then say if Venusis SD to Mercury the strongest signficator AND if it has good powermeans it will be a good samdharmi to Mercury and so Venus can stepin that case. Again venus has to be studied carefully. It shouldnot be spoilt.Say think like this, if there are 2 friends in school. One is anice guy the topper in a class (highest points in WS) and the otherchap is a back bencher whos like a dodo and a mischief monger (say aplanet with less than 12 points).Now lets called the topper of the class as Planet A and the mischiefmonger as Planet B.Now in the chart assume both these chaps come in the same sign. Sonaturally they become samdharmi with means that they are supposed towork together.Or u can say that for a project (child birth) both are supposed towork together.But Planet B will always try to show the class that they are workingtogether (hypocrate) but if he gets a chance he will put planet Ainto trouble.So it seems that both are working towards the project to make it asuccess but one chap i.e planet B is not a good friend of Planet A.So he will try to give to show the teacher that he is working but hewill fail, so there might be a conceptoin but say if there are otherfactors like say Rahu and Ma aspecting 11th lord or 5th lord thenthere might be a miscarriage.So that is why I say that the SD planet also should have good pointsmeans that Planet B also should have more than 12 points in WS so inthat way he is not playing the role of mischief monger but isgenuinly intersted in giving the result. So in that case, say ifPlanet A falls sick or student A falls sick then student B will takehis place and make the project a success.You can only imagine if Student A (the topper) falls sick on the dayof project presentation and Student B ( the miscief monger) has totake his place as they are SD (workign on same project) then whatwill be the final result.I hope u get the essence of what I am trying to expain.Cheers !!!AshThanksPrabhaastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Prabha ji,>  > Let me explain you in simple words.>  > When any planet is unable to furnish the event due to it's sight> on any of the houses like A,B or C then it's samdharmi will step in.> In such case even if it is with low points in WS, it may give the event.>  > I hope its clear now.>  > Regards> Anup>  >  >  > > > --- On Wed, 19/11/08, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> wrote:> > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...>> [astrologyandtiming events] Samdharmi with low points in WS> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 3:34 PM> > > > > > > Respected Guruji, Ash ji and List members,> I have been going through the archives. After reading Mr. > Ramesh ji's post dated 19/11/2009, I had a doubt what if SD planet > having less points came forward to give results. And Lo and > Behold --> http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/ messa> ge/8712> Mr Ash ji has asked the same question here following 2 more > posts.> I haven't found the answers for the same doubts.> Thanks> Prabha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to http://in.messenger ./ win/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Dear Mr. Patel The question I wanted to ask was asked by Mr Ash ji in Msg 8712. I hadn't framed my question completely after seeing that message in the archives. In my message I had given the message number so that members can understand what my doubt was. Thanks Prabha , eagle reagle <eagle_astro wrote: > > Dear Prabhaji, and other list members, > planet 'B' with less points as SD to planet 'A' may give lower quality of result but event may take place during its antra , do u think that here you might have mixed up timing of event and quality of event.This what i interprate ASHJI'S narration. > with regards > > GDPATEL > > --- On Thu, 20/11/08, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya wrote: > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya > Re: Samdharmi with low points in WS > > Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 2:19 PM Respected Guruji, Ash ji, Anup ji, and List members, > Here is the answer to the question I posed and answered by > Mr. Ash ji himself in Msg 8800 which I am giving here as it is. > > Dear Manoshi, > Something else came to mind. I think you are thinking that SDs > will > always step in for primary significator. That is not the case. SDs > will only step in if the main planet is not capable due to any > reason. > > Say for example Me was very strong for 5th house and assume its > male > chart, but the native did not marry in Me antra as he was in delay > period, then Say nothing happens in Ketu antra and then say if > Venus > is SD to Mercury the strongest signficator AND if it has good > power > means it will be a good samdharmi to Mercury and so Venus can > step > in that case. Again venus has to be studied carefully. It should > not be spoilt. > > Say think like this, if there are 2 friends in school. One is a > nice guy the topper in a class (highest points in WS) and the > other > chap is a back bencher whos like a dodo and a mischief monger > (say a > planet with less than 12 points). > > Now lets called the topper of the class as Planet A and the > mischief > monger as Planet B. > > Now in the chart assume both these chaps come in the same sign. > So > naturally they become samdharmi with means that they are > supposed to > work together. > > Or u can say that for a project (child birth) both are supposed to > work together. > > But Planet B will always try to show the class that they are > working > together (hypocrate) but if he gets a chance he will put planet A > into trouble. > > So it seems that both are working towards the project to make it a > success but one chap i.e planet B is not a good friend of Planet > A. > So he will try to give to show the teacher that he is working but > he > will fail, so there might be a conceptoin but say if there are other > factors like say Rahu and Ma aspecting 11th lord or 5th lord then > there might be a miscarriage. > > So that is why I say that the SD planet also should have good > points > means that Planet B also should have more than 12 points in WS > so in > that way he is not playing the role of mischief monger but is > genuinly intersted in giving the result. So in that case, say if > Planet A falls sick or student A falls sick then student B will take > his place and make the project a success. > > You can only imagine if Student A (the topper) falls sick on the > day > of project presentation and Student B ( the miscief monger) has to > take his place as they are SD (workign on same project) then what > will be the final result. > > I hope u get the essence of what I am trying to expain. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > Thanks > Prabha > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " > <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > >  > > Let me explain you in simple words. > >  > > When any planet is unable to furnish the event due to > it's sight > > on any of the houses like A,B or C then it's samdharmi will > step in. > > In such case even if it is with low points in WS, it may give > the event. > >  > > I hope its clear now. > >  > > Regards > > Anup > >  > >  > >  > > > > > > --- On Wed, 19/11/08, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> > wrote: > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Samdharmi with low points > in WS > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 3:34 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Guruji, Ash ji and List members, > > I have been going through the archives. After reading Mr. > > Ramesh ji's post dated 19/11/2009, I had a doubt what if SD > planet > > having less points came forward to give results. And Lo and > > Behold -- > > http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/ > messa > > ge/8712 > > Mr Ash ji has asked the same question here following 2 more > > posts. > > I haven't found the answers for the same doubts. > > Thanks > > Prabha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to > http://in.messenger ./ win/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Dear Prabha ji, Has your question been answered in the post I had given on SD? Is the phenomenon clear? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of prabha.acharya Thursday November 20, 2008 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Samdharmi with low points in WS Dear Mr. Patel The question I wanted to ask was asked by Mr Ash ji in Msg 8712. I hadn't framed my question completely after seeing that message in the archives. In my message I had given the message number so that members can understand what my doubt was. Thanks Prabha , eagle reagle <eagle_astro wrote: > > Dear Prabhaji, and other list members, > planet 'B' with less points as SD to planet 'A' may give lower quality of result but event may take place during its antra , do u think that here you might have mixed up timing of event and quality of event.This what i interprate ASHJI'S narration. > with regards > > GDPATEL > > --- On Thu, 20/11/08, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya wrote: > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya > Re: Samdharmi with low points in WS > > Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 2:19 PM > > > > > > > Respected Guruji, Ash ji, Anup ji, and List members, > Here is the answer to the question I posed and answered by > Mr. Ash ji himself in Msg 8800 which I am giving here as it is. > > Dear Manoshi, > Something else came to mind. I think you are thinking that SDs > will > always step in for primary significator. That is not the case. SDs > will only step in if the main planet is not capable due to any > reason. > > Say for example Me was very strong for 5th house and assume its > male > chart, but the native did not marry in Me antra as he was in delay > period, then Say nothing happens in Ketu antra and then say if > Venus > is SD to Mercury the strongest signficator AND if it has good > power > means it will be a good samdharmi to Mercury and so Venus can > step > in that case. Again venus has to be studied carefully. It should > not be spoilt. > > Say think like this, if there are 2 friends in school. One is a > nice guy the topper in a class (highest points in WS) and the > other > chap is a back bencher whos like a dodo and a mischief monger > (say a > planet with less than 12 points). > > Now lets called the topper of the class as Planet A and the > mischief > monger as Planet B. > > Now in the chart assume both these chaps come in the same sign. > So > naturally they become samdharmi with means that they are > supposed to > work together. > > Or u can say that for a project (child birth) both are supposed to > work together. > > But Planet B will always try to show the class that they are > working > together (hypocrate) but if he gets a chance he will put planet A > into trouble. > > So it seems that both are working towards the project to make it a > success but one chap i.e planet B is not a good friend of Planet > A. > So he will try to give to show the teacher that he is working but > he > will fail, so there might be a conceptoin but say if there are other > factors like say Rahu and Ma aspecting 11th lord or 5th lord then > there might be a miscarriage. > > So that is why I say that the SD planet also should have good > points > means that Planet B also should have more than 12 points in WS > so in > that way he is not playing the role of mischief monger but is > genuinly intersted in giving the result. So in that case, say if > Planet A falls sick or student A falls sick then student B will take > his place and make the project a success. > > You can only imagine if Student A (the topper) falls sick on the > day > of project presentation and Student B ( the miscief monger) has to > take his place as they are SD (workign on same project) then what > will be the final result. > > I hope u get the essence of what I am trying to expain. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > Thanks > Prabha > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " > <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > >  > > Let me explain you in simple words. > >  > > When any planet is unable to furnish the event due to > it's sight > > on any of the houses like A,B or C then it's samdharmi will > step in. > > In such case even if it is with low points in WS, it may give > the event. > >  > > I hope its clear now. > >  > > Regards > > Anup > >  > >  > >  > > > > > > --- On Wed, 19/11/08, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> > wrote: > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Samdharmi with low points > in WS > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 3:34 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Guruji, Ash ji and List members, > > I have been going through the archives. After reading Mr. > > Ramesh ji's post dated 19/11/2009, I had a doubt what if SD > planet > > having less points came forward to give results. And Lo and > > Behold -- > > http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/ > messa > > ge/8712 > > Mr Ash ji has asked the same question here following 2 more > > posts. > > I haven't found the answers for the same doubts. > > Thanks > > Prabha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to > http://in.messenger ./ win/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Respected Ash ji, Yes I have understood the concept of SD given in that post but 'I will be back' with more doubts and clarifications in my enthusiasm for learning this great KAS provided by Goruji and you. Thanks for answering mails inspite of your other commitments. Thanks Prabha , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Prabha ji, > > Has your question been answered in the post I had given on SD? Is the > phenomenon clear? > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of > prabha.acharya > Thursday November 20, 2008 8:42 AM > > Re: Samdharmi with low points in WS > > Dear Mr. Patel > The question I wanted to ask was asked by Mr Ash ji in Msg > 8712. I hadn't framed my question completely after seeing that > message in the archives. In my message I had given the message > number so that members can understand what my doubt was. > Thanks > Prabha > > <%40> , eagle reagle > <eagle_astro@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prabhaji, and other list members, > > planet 'B' with less points as SD to planet 'A' may give lower > quality of result but event may take place during its antra , do u > think that here you might have mixed up timing of event and > quality of event.This what i interprate ASHJI'S narration. > > with regards > > > > GDPATEL > > > > --- On Thu, 20/11/08, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@> > wrote: > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@> > > Re: Samdharmi with low > points in WS > > > <%40> > > Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 2:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Guruji, Ash ji, Anup ji, and List members, > > Here is the answer to the question I posed and answered by > > Mr. Ash ji himself in Msg 8800 which I am giving here as it is. > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > Something else came to mind. I think you are thinking that SDs > > will > > always step in for primary significator. That is not the case. SDs > > will only step in if the main planet is not capable due to any > > reason. > > > > Say for example Me was very strong for 5th house and assume > its > > male > > chart, but the native did not marry in Me antra as he was in > delay > > period, then Say nothing happens in Ketu antra and then say if > > Venus > > is SD to Mercury the strongest signficator AND if it has good > > power > > means it will be a good samdharmi to Mercury and so Venus > can > > step > > in that case. Again venus has to be studied carefully. It should > > not be spoilt. > > > > Say think like this, if there are 2 friends in school. One is a > > nice guy the topper in a class (highest points in WS) and the > > other > > chap is a back bencher whos like a dodo and a mischief monger > > (say a > > planet with less than 12 points). > > > > Now lets called the topper of the class as Planet A and the > > mischief > > monger as Planet B. > > > > Now in the chart assume both these chaps come in the same > sign. > > So > > naturally they become samdharmi with means that they are > > supposed to > > work together. > > > > Or u can say that for a project (child birth) both are supposed to > > work together. > > > > But Planet B will always try to show the class that they are > > working > > together (hypocrate) but if he gets a chance he will put planet A > > into trouble. > > > > So it seems that both are working towards the project to make it > a > > success but one chap i.e planet B is not a good friend of Planet > > A. > > So he will try to give to show the teacher that he is working but > > he > > will fail, so there might be a conceptoin but say if there are other > > factors like say Rahu and Ma aspecting 11th lord or 5th lord > then > > there might be a miscarriage. > > > > So that is why I say that the SD planet also should have good > > points > > means that Planet B also should have more than 12 points in > WS > > so in > > that way he is not playing the role of mischief monger but is > > genuinly intersted in giving the result. So in that case, say if > > Planet A falls sick or student A falls sick then student B will > take > > his place and make the project a success. > > > > You can only imagine if Student A (the topper) falls sick on the > > day > > of project presentation and Student B ( the miscief monger) has > to > > take his place as they are SD (workign on same project) then > what > > will be the final result. > > > > I hope u get the essence of what I am trying to expain. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > Thanks > > Prabha > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. > M " > > <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > > >  > > > Let me explain you in simple words. > > >  > > > When any planet is unable to furnish the > event due to > > it's sight > > > on any of the houses like A,B or C then it's > samdharmi will > > step in. > > > In such case even if it is with low points in WS, it may > give > > the event. > > >  > > > I hope its clear now. > > >  > > > Regards > > > Anup > > >  > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 19/11/08, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ....> > > wrote: > > > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Samdharmi with low > points > > in WS > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 3:34 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Guruji, Ash ji and List members, > > > I have been going through the archives. After reading Mr. > > > Ramesh ji's post dated 19/11/2009, I had a doubt what if SD > > planet > > > having less points came forward to give results. And Lo and > > > Behold -- > > > http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/ > > messa > > > ge/8712 > > > Mr Ash ji has asked the same question here following 2 more > > > posts. > > > I haven't found the answers for the same doubts. > > > Thanks > > > Prabha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to > > http://in.messenger ./ win/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger./invite/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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