Learning-Significator planet - Continuation

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Jupiter

is in 11th house with 5 bindus.

So its eager to give result for 6th and 2nd. That is one thing. Next Ju owns 8th house so its

eager to give 11th house and 3rd house matters and it is

5th lord so eager to give 8th and 12th house

matters.

 

So

Guru is eager to furnish events related to all the above house. Now, Ju is opposed by Su. Sun is Karak for 6th

and 10th as well. Now

you can see that for 10th house the power of Ju is less but at same

time it is giving 11th and 6th. So eager to give income and job but its

not giving or resisting giving authority on its own. Now Ju is SD to Ve

who is LoE for 10th house so there is some offsetting effect there

so here there might be some temporary authority given i.e. timing but quality

might not be that good so I say temporary.

But the native will get satisfaction from family and might be able to

accumulate wealth and he will make income with relative ease. He himself will resist taking on more

authority in Ju antra. Now he

Ran Ju/Ju when he was about 23 years old thru 25. That time one generally finishes

education and is entering work force.

So he will get work and might make good money relative to his

age/experience or we can say he might get good break and he might be on

probation or something like that. In Sa antra he will get better

satisfaction for authority but at the same time he will face more worries and

problems with colleagues. He has

average intelligence but he is clever and can pick up things quickly. He lacks confidence and has a habit of

looking small small things. He would be very picky and

obsessive. He might also be

borderline obsessive compulsive.

 

He

will have delayed marriage.

 

 

In

any case, I think you can confirm all the above.

 

Next

point about Venus and Sectors.

 

Career

and Internal make up of nature are 2 different things. We should not mix it up. This native has 3 sectors of Ve and 1 Sa and 2 Me.

So he has average intelligence, more clever and will calculate things

but will spend money on his enjoyment.

For example, if he wants to go for a vacation, he will study 100

different travel agencies and deals etc and then only he will make up his mind

but at the same time he will spend money for enjoyment, but will take

time. He also might be walking a

bit differently, not making much sound from his feet or walking more slowly and cautiously. Can you please confirm this as

well.

 

He

also might have a more orthodox view points of things, might not care for tasty

food. He might eat what he gets, he

might not be too picky. Can you

also confirm his eating habit please Nikhlesh ji.

 

Now

regarding his career, it will be linked to Sa and Mo. So a service industry job is better for

him. Moon indicate fluid things,

thoughts, and skills like that. So a career linked to public and

media might be ok but not where Venusians skills are required. His career is not liked to Venus but Sa

and Mo and maybe in media or media related field.

 

Now

he is in Venus antra and Ve is Lod

for 1st and LoE for 5th. This person should definitely stay away

from speculation or he will loose his sleep. He should not speculate at all or due to

his nature he might loose his sleep.

 

In

Venus antra, he might meet someone interesting... if you know what I mean.......

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Ash's Corner

Wednesday November 26, 2008

9:14 PM

 

RE: Re:

Learning-Significator planet

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Nikhlesh ji,

 

1) For selecting the Significators we have the total strength that

takes into consideration the ALL following

a. Total of A+B+C (B is 10th from A and C is 6th

from A therefore upchaya from Karak)

b. 4:10 (Parasparak Karak)

c. LoD and LoE (upchaya from Karak AND Phal

sthan)

d. Aspect on House A, B and C

e. Aspect on Planets

 

2) For 5th house the power given by you are all showing the

power of all these planets for 5th house. How the planets will

act in their respective antra will depend on the power of the

Significators. In the chart that is given the power

 

 

 

 

Su

 

 

Mo

 

 

Ma

 

 

Me

 

 

Ju

 

 

Ve

 

 

Sa

 

 

 

 

10

 

 

13

 

 

9

 

 

17

 

 

11

 

 

20

 

 

11

 

 

 

 

So in

antra of Mercury one will get good results for 5th house

matters. Here Mercury is LoD so its eager to give result for 5th

house i.e. furnish the timing of event. Here we are focusing on Quality

of event. Venus has 20 points and Me has 17 points so both are eager to

furnish the timing of event and Moon has 13 as well. This is when we are

studying Happy Event. In the antra of Su, Ma, Ju and Sa, the native will

receive less than normal happiness or if an event is not happy might eagerly

happen in Ma antra as it has lowest point. So the Significator for a Happy event will be Ve,

Me and Mo and significator for an event which is not

happy is Sa, Ju, Ma and Su for the above case. I hope the meaning of significator.

 

 

Ok I am

out of time. I shall try to write later on your other questions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of nikhlesh mathur

Wednesday November 26, 2008

6:57 AM

 

Re: Re:

Learning-Significator planet

 

 

 

 

 

 

26.11.2008

Sub: Learning KAS-Ques on Significator planet.

 

Dear Group Members,

 

Ref: Lesson no. 5 titled ‘The Upachaya houses’.

 

Information mentioned: It is mentioned that for any focus house, the planet

that gets the highest Bindus in the houses 3rd, 6th, 10th 11th from this focus

house, is the Significator planet that gives the result in its Antardasha.

 

Questions :

 

# For detecting the Significator planet,

 

Q1. Do we have to see the BAV bindus of the planets in 3rd,6th,10th,11th and

choose the highest Bindu planet, and say that in its AD the good result will be

there (with other conditions complying).

 

Or

 

Q2. Do we need the see the table below the SAV chart and choose the highest

power planet for the focus house directly?

 

What is the basic approach?

 

My understanding:

What I understand at the moment is, suppose we want to know the Significator

for focus house no 5 then we observe the power of all the planets for the 5th

house and then choose the planet which has the highest power.

 

Q3.Is this correct?

 

Reference to an Example chart:

For example, in a chart 13/10/1977, 02:58 hours, 18.N.53, 72.E.50, Asc 5Li33,

when we see the power of planets for 5th house we find the following from Asc;

 

Su =10; Mo=13; Ma=9, Me=17, Ju= 11, Ve=20, Sa=10

 

Do we say that here the Significator planet is Me because it has the highest 17

points?

 

Q4. Is this correct?

 

If yes then do we say that the AD of Me will give good results pertaining to

5th house matters?

 

Now suppose we need to find the fame of this person (see 5th house its

Upc’s;)

 

We thus see the 5th house and its Upachaya houses ie 7th house, 10th house, 2nd

house 3rd house (3,6,10,11 from 5th house).

 

Q5. Do we also see the lord of 5th house which is Ju here and is aspecting the

5th house malefically (with strength minus 5 points).

 

Ju has the following points; 5th house = 11 (not good), 7th house = 8 (not

good), 10th house = 10 (not good), 2nd house=20 (very good), 3rd house=21 (very

good).

 

Q6. Does this mean that Ju in its AD may give fame through the 2nd house (say

high earning, good PR, good speech) through 3rd house (through relations).

 

Is it that Ju will NOT give fame due to 7th house (spouse, business) and due to

authority in profession (10th house) as Ju has low power for these houses?

 

Is it that Ju will refrain from giving good result (fame) because it aspects

5th house malefically?

 

Q7. Is this approach correct?

 

 

This native is right now passing through the AD of Ve (Jul 2008-Mar 2011).

 

If we see the power of Ve in the Upc of 5th house we find that except for 7th

house Ve has high power for all other 3 Upc bhav’s.

 

Q8. Does this mean that the running period of Ve is going to be fruitful to

this native for getting more fame? Ve is also LoE for 5th house.

 

Ve is placed in the 2nd house and therefore should give the effects of 5th

house (4th from 2nd); even-though it is neutral (4 points).

 

The native has more Venusians qualities ( Ve in 3 sectors of D9, D3,D30

charts).

 

So is it that the native will gain some fame in matters controlled in general

by Venus.

 

This native is infact trying his luck in show-biz and is right now struggling.

 

I have chosen the above example from a chart I have in my collection for

comparative study.

 

Looking forward to inputs from KAS experts and KAS Learners.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

[Guest guest]

28.11.2008

 

Sub: Learning of KAS

 

Dear Mr Ash & Group Members,

 

Once again your teachings Ash ji are so precise that they need to be included as ‘Chapters’ some where in the KAS theories.

 

I got through most of the explanations and I also did not get through some of them.

 

I am putting up them here so that the ‘Samdharmi’ members can come forward to explain them with their own examples.

 

I understood that:

 

1. The significator theory is quite clear now. For a focus house we see the power of all planets. The AD’s of planets which have high power for that focus house tend to give a happy result. Those with lower power tend to give sad results.

 

2. If the chart indicates an unhappy event then we find out which are those houses which can give that event, then find out if a particular planet is play a greater role in its happening as per the chart and then find out the power of it to confirm if the event can really happen in its AD.

 

Now a few queries in reference to the same chart, ie. 13.10.1977, 02:58 am, 18.53.N, 72.50.E

 

3. You said that Su is opposing Ju.

 

Is it because Su is 4th from Ju and Ju has more BAV points (5) than Su (2).

 

If per chance Ju had fewer BAV points than Su, then Ju would have controlled Su. Is this okay? I am sure this is right.

 

4. Now when Su opposes Ju does it mean that Su will play hurdle (give obstructions) in the efforts of Ju to give the results of the houses it is placed to give?

 

5. When will Su play hurdle to Ju? Will it be always or will be in the AD of Ju or will be in the AD of Su?

 

That we understand that Su will play hurdles to Ju on matters related to 6th & 10th houses. The offsetting by Ve is also understood.

 

6. Regarding career you said that it is linked here to Sa & Mo.

Saturn, we understand is the lord of the Navansh of the 10th lord in natal chart (Ve is in Capricorn in Navansh). 10th house is vacant here and so we see the Navansh lord of 10th lord.

 

But how Mo is also linked to career? I couldn’t understand this.

 

Is it because Mo is 11th lord (income house) placed in 6th house (service) of the D10 chart (meant for studying career)?

 

Being 8th from the 11th house of D10 chart, Mo becomes the Karak for the 11th house matters. Mo is the lord of 11th there. So Karak planet is responsible for income from career. Is it because of this?

 

Ash ji, I would thank you for the time you give to each individual mail and reply it in quite an elaborate fashion.

 

Thank you,

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 Ash's Corner wrote :

>Jupiter is in 11th house with 5 bindus. So its eager to give result for 6th

>and 2nd. That is one thing. Next Ju owns 8th house so its eager to give

>11th house and 3rd house matters and it is 5th lord so eager to give 8th and

>12th house matters.

>

>So Guru is eager to furnish events related to all the above house. Now, Ju

>is opposed by Su. Sun is Karak for 6th and 10th as well. Now you can see

>that for 10th house the power of Ju is less but at same time it is giving

>11th and 6th. So eager to give income and job but its not giving or

>resisting giving authority on its own. Now Ju is SD to Ve who is LoE for

>10th house so there is some offsetting effect there so here there might be

>some temporary authority given i.e. timing but quality might not be that

>good so I say temporary. But the native will get satisfaction from family

>and might be able to accumulate wealth and he will make income with relative

>ease. He himself will resist taking on more authority in Ju antra. Now he

>Ran Ju/Ju when he was about 23 years old thru 25. That time one generally

>finishes education and is entering work force. So he will get work and

>might make good money relative to his age/experience or we can say he might

>get good break and he might be on probation or something like that. In Sa

>antra he will get better satisfaction for authority but at the same time he

>will face more worries and problems with colleagues. He has average

>intelligence but he is clever and can pick up things quickly. He lacks

>confidence and has a habit of looking small small things. He would be very

>picky and obsessive. He might also be borderline obsessive compulsive.

>

>He will have delayed marriage.

>

>

>In any case, I think you can confirm all the above.

>

>Next point about Venus and Sectors.

>

>Career and Internal make up of nature are 2 different things. We should not

>mix it up. This native has 3 sectors of Ve and 1 Sa and 2 Me. So he has

>average intelligence, more clever and will calculate things but will spend

>money on his enjoyment. For example, if he wants to go for a vacation, he

>will study 100 different travel agencies and deals etc and then only he will

>make up his mind but at the same time he will spend money for enjoyment, but

>will take time. He also might be walking a bit differently, not making much

>sound from his feet or walking more slowly and cautiously. Can you please

>confirm this as well.

>

>He also might have a more orthodox view points of things, might not care for

>tasty food. He might eat what he gets, he might not be too picky. Can you

>also confirm his eating habit please Nikhlesh ji.

>

>Now regarding his career, it will be linked to Sa and Mo. So a service

>industry job is better for him. Moon indicate fluid things, thoughts, and

>skills like that. So a career linked to public and media might be ok but

>not where Venusians skills are required. His career is not liked to Venus

>but Sa and Mo and maybe in media or media related field.

>

>Now he is in Venus antra and Ve is Lod for 1st and LoE for 5th. This person

>should definitely stay away from speculation or he will loose his sleep. He

>should not speculate at all or due to his nature he might loose his sleep.

>

>In Venus antra, he might meet someone interesting... if you know what I

>mean.......

>

>Cheers !!!

>Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

> On Behalf Of Ash's

>Corner

>Wednesday November 26, 2008 9:14 PM

>

>RE: Re: Learning-Significator planet

>

>Dear Nikhlesh ji,

>

>1) For selecting the Significators we have the total strength that takes

>into consideration the ALL following

>a. Total of A+B+C (B is 10th from A and C is 6th from A therefore upchaya

> from Karak)

>b. 4:10 (Parasparak Karak)

>c. LoD and LoE (upchaya from Karak AND Phal sthan)

>d. Aspect on House A, B and C

>e. Aspect on Planets

>

>2) For 5th house the power given by you are all showing the power of all

>these planets for 5th house. How the planets will act in their respective

>antra will depend on the power of the Significators. In the chart that is

>given the power

>

>

>Su

>Mo

>Ma

>Me

>Ju

>Ve

>Sa

>

>10

>13

>9

>17

>11

>20

>11

>

>So in antra of Mercury one will get good results for 5th house matters.

>Here Mercury is LoD so its eager to give result for 5th house i.e. furnish

>the timing of event. Here we are focusing on Quality of event. Venus has

>20 points and Me has 17 points so both are eager to furnish the timing of

>event and Moon has 13 as well. This is when we are studying Happy Event.

>In the antra of Su, Ma, Ju and Sa, the native will receive less than normal

>happiness or if an event is not happy might eagerly happen in Ma antra as it

>has lowest point. So the Significator for a Happy event will be Ve, Me and

>Mo and significator for an event which is not happy is Sa, Ju, Ma and Su for

>the above case. I hope the meaning of significator.

 

>Ok I am out of time. I shall try to write later on your other questions.

>Cheers !!!

>Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Nikhilesh ji and List members,

Regarding your question of Q8 ---

The 10th lord from Lagna which Ve is placed in Sa house viz

Capricorn in D9.

The 10th lord from Su, Mo which is Me is placed in Mo house viz

Cancer.

So Sa and Mo together decides mainly the career of the native.

Thanks

Prabha

, " nikhlesh

mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote:

>

>  

> 28.11.2008

>

> Sub: Learning of KAS

>

> Dear Mr Ash & Group Members,

>

> Once again your teachings Ash ji are so precise

that they need to be included as `Chapters' some where in the

KAS theories.

>

> I got through most of the explanations and I also did not get

through some of them.

>

> I am putting up them here so that the `Samdharmi' members can

come forward to explain them with their own examples.

>

> I understood that:

>

> 1. The significator theory is quite clear now. For a focus house

we see the power of all planets. The AD's of planets which have

high power for that focus house tend to give a happy result.

Those with lower power tend to give sad results.

>

> 2. If the chart indicates an unhappy event then we find out

which are those houses which can give that event, then find out

if a particular planet is play a greater role in its happening as per

the chart and then find out the power of it to confirm if the event

can really happen in its AD.

>

> Now a few queries in reference to the same chart, ie. 13.10.1977,

02:58 am, 18.53.N, 72.50.E

>

> 3. You said that Su is opposing Ju.

>

> Is it because Su is 4th from Ju and Ju has more BAV points (5)

than Su (2).

>

> If per chance Ju had fewer BAV points than Su, then Ju would

have controlled Su. Is this okay? I am sure this is right.

>

> 4. Now when Su opposes Ju does it mean that Su will play

hurdle (give obstructions) in the efforts of Ju to give the results

of the houses it is placed to give?

>

> 5. When will Su play hurdle to Ju? Will it be always or will be in

the AD of Ju or will be in the AD of Su?

>

> That we understand that Su will play hurdles to Ju on matters

related to 6th & 10th houses. The offsetting by Ve is also

understood.

>

> 6. Regarding career you said that it is linked here to Sa & Mo.

> Saturn, we understand is the lord of the Navansh of the 10th

lord in natal chart (Ve is in Capricorn in Navansh). 10th house is

vacant here and so we see the Navansh lord of 10th lord.

>

> But how Mo is also linked to career? I couldn't understand

this.

>

> Is it because Mo is 11th lord (income house) placed in 6th

house (service) of the D10 chart (meant for studying career)?

>

> Being 8th from the 11th house of D10 chart, Mo becomes the

Karak for the 11th house matters. Mo is the lord of 11th there. So

Karak planet is responsible for income from career. Is it because

of this?

>

> Ash ji, I would thank you for the time you give to each

individual mail and reply it in quite an elaborate fashion.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Regards,

> Nikhlesh Mathur

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 Ash's Corner wrote :

> >Jupiter is in 11th house with 5 bindus. So its eager to give

result for 6th

> >and 2nd. That is one thing. Next Ju owns 8th house so its

eager to give

> >11th house and 3rd house matters and it is 5th lord so eager to

give 8th and

> >12th house matters.

> >

> >So Guru is eager to furnish events related to all the above

house. Now, Ju

> >is opposed by Su. Sun is Karak for 6th and 10th as well. Now

you can see

> >that for 10th house the power of Ju is less but at same time it is

giving

> >11th and 6th. So eager to give income and job but its not

giving or

> >resisting giving authority on its own. Now Ju is SD to Ve who

is LoE for

> >10th house so there is some offsetting effect there so here

there might be

> >some temporary authority given i.e. timing but quality might

not be that

> >good so I say temporary. But the native will get satisfaction

from family

> >and might be able to accumulate wealth and he will make

income with relative

> >ease. He himself will resist taking on more authority in Ju

antra. Now he

> >Ran Ju/Ju when he was about 23 years old thru 25. That time

one generally

> >finishes education and is entering work force. So he will get

work and

> >might make good money relative to his age/experience or we

can say he might

> >get good break and he might be on probation or something

like that. In Sa

> >antra he will get better satisfaction for authority but at the

same time he

> >will face more worries and problems with colleagues. He has

average

> >intelligence but he is clever and can pick up things quickly.

He lacks

> >confidence and has a habit of looking small small things. He

would be very

> >picky and obsessive. He might also be borderline obsessive

compulsive.

> >

> >He will have delayed marriage.

> >

> >

> >In any case, I think you can confirm all the above.

> >

> >Next point about Venus and Sectors.

> >

> >Career and Internal make up of nature are 2 different things.

We should not

> >mix it up. This native has 3 sectors of Ve and 1 Sa and 2 Me.

So he has

> >average intelligence, more clever and will calculate things but

will spend

> >money on his enjoyment. For example, if he wants to go for a

vacation, he

> >will study 100 different travel agencies and deals etc and then

only he will

> >make up his mind but at the same time he will spend money for

enjoyment, but

> >will take time. He also might be walking a bit differently, not

making much

> >sound from his feet or walking more slowly and cautiously.

Can you please

> >confirm this as well.

> >

> >He also might have a more orthodox view points of things,

might not care for

> >tasty food. He might eat what he gets, he might not be too

picky. Can you

> >also confirm his eating habit please Nikhlesh ji.

> >

> >Now regarding his career, it will be linked to Sa and Mo. So a

service

> >industry job is better for him. Moon indicate fluid things,

thoughts, and

> >skills like that. So a career linked to public and media might be

ok but

> >not where Venusians skills are required. His career is not liked

to Venus

> >but Sa and Mo and maybe in media or media related field.

> >

> >Now he is in Venus antra and Ve is Lod for 1st and LoE for

5th. This person

> >should definitely stay away from speculation or he will loose

his sleep. He

> >should not speculate at all or due to his nature he might loose

his sleep.

> >

> >In Venus antra, he might meet someone interesting... if you

know what I

> >mean.......

> >

> >Cheers !!!

> >Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> >

> > On

Behalf Of Ash's

> >Corner

> >Wednesday November 26, 2008 9:14 PM

> >

> >RE: Re: Learning-

Significator planet

> >

> >Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> >

> >1) For selecting the Significators we have the total strength

that takes

> >into consideration the ALL following

> >a. Total of A+B+C (B is 10th from A and C is 6th from A

therefore upchaya

> > from Karak)

> >b. 4:10 (Parasparak Karak)

> >c. LoD and LoE (upchaya from Karak AND Phal sthan)

> >d. Aspect on House A, B and C

> >e. Aspect on Planets

> >

> >2) For 5th house the power given by you are all showing the

power of all

> >these planets for 5th house. How the planets will act in their

respective

> >antra will depend on the power of the Significators. In the

chart that is

> >given the power

> >

> >

> >Su

> >Mo

> >Ma

> >Me

> >Ju

> >Ve

> >Sa

> >

> >10

> >13

> >9

> >17

> >11

> >20

> >11

> >

> >So in antra of Mercury one will get good results for 5th house

matters.

> >Here Mercury is LoD so its eager to give result for 5th house

i.e. furnish

> >the timing of event. Here we are focusing on Quality of event.

Venus has

> >20 points and Me has 17 points so both are eager to furnish

the timing of

> >event and Moon has 13 as well. This is when we are studying

Happy Event.

> >In the antra of Su, Ma, Ju and Sa, the native will receive less

than normal

> >happiness or if an event is not happy might eagerly happen in

Ma antra as it

> >has lowest point. So the Significator for a Happy event will

be Ve, Me and

> >Mo and significator for an event which is not happy is Sa, Ju,

Ma and Su for

> >the above case. I hope the meaning of significator.

>

> >Ok I am out of time. I shall try to write later on your other

questions.

> >Cheers !!!

> >Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Prabha ji,

 

It really did not strike me at that time.

Thanks for making me realize.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

 

On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 prabha.acharya wrote :

>Dear Mr. Nikhilesh ji and List members,

>Regarding your question of Q8 ---

>The 10th lord from Lagna which Ve is placed in Sa house viz

>Capricorn in D9.

>The 10th lord from Su, Mo which is Me is placed in Mo house viz

>Cancer.

>So Sa and Mo together decides mainly the career of the native.

>Thanks

>Prabha

> , " nikhlesh

>mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote:

> >