Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List Members, This is a chart of a Male, DOB: 03Feb1961; TOB: 21.37; POB: Bangalore,India. He had lots of affairs according to him but didnt materialise into marriage. Later married to another girl and is happy with a son and daughter. Why didnt the affairs convert into marriage? Thanks Prabha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Dear Prabha ji, Can request your source to provide some events like date of marriage and also dates of affairs and their breakups. That way we can do a full study of it. The chart is indicating late marriage. Ra antra can give marriage and max by Ju he will be married. Can you confirm this. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of prabha.acharya Thursday December 18, 2008 7:48 AM Subject: A chart to study Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List Members, This is a chart of a Male, DOB: 03Feb1961; TOB: 21.37; POB: Bangalore,India. He had lots of affairs according to him but didnt materialise into marriage. Later married to another girl and is happy with a son and daughter. Why didnt the affairs convert into marriage? Thanks Prabha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 19.12.2009 Sub: Male native 03.02.1961, 21.37 hrs, Bangalore, 12.N.59, 77.E.35, Asc:10 Vi 9 Query: Breakups before marriage........why? Analysis: 1. Chart shows delay in marrage as Sa is placed in the 5th house and is thus aspecting Houses A,B,C. 2. The distance between Sun & Venus is more than 43 degrees, which we all know delays the marriage and in all liklehood gives problem in marital life too. It enhances the desires for physical pleasures too. 3. He might have got married during the period March 1991 to Dec 1991 during the 1st sector of the AD of Ju in the MD of Rahu. Ju is LoD for 7th house and a strong significator of 7th house. Ju is also LoE from Sun chart. Now, why the break-ups? 1. Ve here is the Boss for Ma as subordinate. So Ma gives points to Ve. In other words it is strengthening Ve. This Ve is already spoilt by the 3rd eye of Sa. This Sa is also the 6th lord. Ve is both NK & FK for marriage. So Sa was not allowing marriage to happen. The >43 degree distance from Sun must be enhancing the urge for physical pleasures (could be a reason for having lots of affairs) 2. The basic nature of Ve (atleast when it is in 7th house with less than 4 points) and the help of Ma on Ve was making this native attracted to opposite sex or may be vice versa. Ra in the Nks of Ve must be adding fuel to this fire. There was no control of Ju. 3. The lord of the Asc (self) is affected by Moon & Rahu both of which are in the Nks of Ve. It is also affected by Ma which is in the Nks of Rahu. So this must be giving this native hidden desires hovering on the boundaries of pleasure. The effect of 6th lord on 7th house and malefic Ve did not culminate the affairs into marriage, I think so. 4. Ju & Ve are 4:10 but Ju is NOT the boss here and Ve must be causing obstacles in the endeavours of Ju, unless the AD of Ju arrived (Ju is Vargottam also, hence strong individually). There is no zero in the SAV chart. 5. The 6th lord Sa has gone in the 5th house. So this Sa must be delaying the 5th house matters also (children). 6. The D9,D3, D30 charts does NOT show Venusian qualities in this native and this could be once reason for more break-ups because more sectors of Ma & Me was making the native sit up and THINK rather than 'flow with the feelings', as far as converting an affair into marriage is concerned. He must be a sincere listener to his mind rather than to his heart. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur > > On Behalf Of >prabha.acharya >Thursday December 18, 2008 7:48 AM > > A chart to study > >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List Members, >This is a chart of a Male, >DOB: 03Feb1961; TOB: 21.37; POB: Bangalore,India. >He had lots of affairs according to him but didnt materialise into >marriage. Later married to another girl and is happy with a son >and daughter. >Why didnt the affairs convert into marriage? >Thanks >Prabha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Dear NIkhlesh ji and list, As Ash ji wrote, if the events are not properly reflected or given, how we can ascertain TOB ? This chart has no past events ,as such, to verify lagna. Regards Anup --- On Fri, 19/12/08, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathurRe: RE: A chart to study Date: Friday, 19 December, 2008, 6:48 PM 19.12.2009Sub: Male native 03.02.1961, 21.37 hrs, Bangalore, 12.N.59, 77.E.35, Asc:10 Vi 9Query: Breakups before marriage.... ....why?Analysis:1. Chart shows delay in marrage as Sa is placed in the 5th house and is thus aspecting Houses A,B,C.2.. The distance between Sun & Venus is more than 43 degrees, which we all know delays the marriage and in all liklehood gives problem in marital life too. It enhances the desires for physical pleasures too.3. He might have got married during the period March 1991 to Dec 1991 during the 1st sector of the AD of Ju in the MD of Rahu.Ju is LoD for 7th house and a strong significator of 7th house.Ju is also LoE from Sun chart.Now, why the break-ups?1. Ve here is the Boss for Ma as subordinate. So Ma gives points to Ve. In other words it is strengthening Ve.This Ve is already spoilt by the 3rd eye of Sa. This Sa is also the 6th lord. Ve is both NK & FK for marriage. So Sa was not allowing marriage to happen. The >43 degree distance from Sun must be enhancing the urge for physical pleasures (could be a reason for having lots of affairs)2. The basic nature of Ve (atleast when it is in 7th house with less than 4 points) and the help of Ma on Ve was making this native attracted to opposite sex or may be vice versa.Ra in the Nks of Ve must be adding fuel to this fire. There was no control of Ju.3. The lord of the Asc (self) is affected by Moon & Rahu both of which are in the Nks of Ve. It is also affected by Ma which is in the Nks of Rahu. So this must be giving this native hidden desires hovering on the boundaries of pleasure. The effect of 6th lord on 7th house and malefic Ve did not culminate the affairs into marriage, I think so.4. Ju & Ve are 4:10 but Ju is NOT the boss here and Ve must be causing obstacles in the endeavours of Ju, unless the AD of Ju arrived (Ju is Vargottam also, hence strong individually) . There is no zero in the SAV chart.5. The 6th lord Sa has gone in the 5th house. So this Sa must be delaying the 5th house matters also (children). 6. The D9,D3, D30 charts does NOT show Venusian qualities in this native and this could be once reason for more break-ups because more sectors of Ma & Me was making the native sit up and THINK rather than 'flow with the feelings', as far as converting an affair into marriage is concerned. He must be a sincere listener to his mind rather than to his heart.Regards,Nikhlesh Mathur> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com>[astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of>prabha.acharya>Thursday December 18, 2008 7:48 AM>astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com>Subject: [astrologyandtiming events] A chart to study>>Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List Members,>This is a chart of a Male,>DOB: 03Feb1961; TOB: 21.37; POB: Bangalore,India.>He had lots of affairs according to him but didnt materialise into>marriage. Later married to another girl and is happy with a son>and daughter.>Why didnt the affairs convert into marriage?>Thanks>Prabha> Connect with friends all over the world.. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Dear Prabha ji, Anup ji and Nikhlesh ji, Yes, the basic things are there as per lessons so I haven’t pointed it out, like the laws for multiple marriage or relationships. Ve to Sun distance is more than 43 and aspected by Sa and Sa conjoins Su a luminary. So that is matching our laws. Venus in this case is Karak and Mool Karak and is very spoilt. Ve is controlling Ma and getting power from Ma and Mo is with Rahu in 12th house.  Ju is also not checking Venus. So these are basic things which have been pointed out. 3 sectors of Ma shows he is more daring and intelligent as well. All these things are pointed out in Analysis by Nikhlesh ji, now if we know proper events, then we can time and verify other events as well and can make this a comprehensive study. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. M Friday December 19, 2008 12:11 PM To: Re: RE: A chart to study Dear NIkhlesh ji and list, As Ash ji wrote, if the events are not properly reflected or given, how we can ascertain TOB ? This chart has no past events ,as such, to verify lagna. Regards Anup --- On Fri, 19/12/08, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur Re: RE: A chart to study Friday, 19 December, 2008, 6:48 PM 19.12.2009 Sub: Male native 03.02.1961, 21.37 hrs, Bangalore, 12.N.59, 77.E.35, Asc:10 Vi 9 Query: Breakups before marriage.... ....why? Analysis: 1. Chart shows delay in marrage as Sa is placed in the 5th house and is thus aspecting Houses A,B,C. 2.. The distance between Sun & Venus is more than 43 degrees, which we all know delays the marriage and in all liklehood gives problem in marital life too. It enhances the desires for physical pleasures too. 3. He might have got married during the period March 1991 to Dec 1991 during the 1st sector of the AD of Ju in the MD of Rahu. Ju is LoD for 7th house and a strong significator of 7th house. Ju is also LoE from Sun chart. Now, why the break-ups? 1. Ve here is the Boss for Ma as subordinate. So Ma gives points to Ve. In other words it is strengthening Ve. This Ve is already spoilt by the 3rd eye of Sa. This Sa is also the 6th lord. Ve is both NK & FK for marriage. So Sa was not allowing marriage to happen. The >43 degree distance from Sun must be enhancing the urge for physical pleasures (could be a reason for having lots of affairs) 2. The basic nature of Ve (atleast when it is in 7th house with less than 4 points) and the help of Ma on Ve was making this native attracted to opposite sex or may be vice versa. Ra in the Nks of Ve must be adding fuel to this fire. There was no control of Ju. 3. The lord of the Asc (self) is affected by Moon & Rahu both of which are in the Nks of Ve. It is also affected by Ma which is in the Nks of Rahu. So this must be giving this native hidden desires hovering on the boundaries of pleasure. The effect of 6th lord on 7th house and malefic Ve did not culminate the affairs into marriage, I think so. 4. Ju & Ve are 4:10 but Ju is NOT the boss here and Ve must be causing obstacles in the endeavours of Ju, unless the AD of Ju arrived (Ju is Vargottam also, hence strong individually) . There is no zero in the SAV chart. 5. The 6th lord Sa has gone in the 5th house. So this Sa must be delaying the 5th house matters also (children). 6. The D9,D3, D30 charts does NOT show Venusian qualities in this native and this could be once reason for more break-ups because more sectors of Ma & Me was making the native sit up and THINK rather than 'flow with the feelings', as far as converting an affair into marriage is concerned. He must be a sincere listener to his mind rather than to his heart. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com >[astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of >prabha.acharya >Thursday December 18, 2008 7:48 AM >astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com >[astrologyandtiming events] A chart to study > >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List Members, >This is a chart of a Male, >DOB: 03Feb1961; TOB: 21.37; POB: Bangalore,India. >He had lots of affairs according to him but didnt materialise into >marriage. Later married to another girl and is happy with a son >and daughter. >Why didnt the affairs convert into marriage? >Thanks >Prabha > Connect with friends all over the world.. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List Members, The details of the chart was taken from the archives. Let's study this chart to find why he didnt marry his girlfriends and what makes him the faithful husband now. The reference numbers to the related topic are given below; Msg 12334, 12345, 12370, 12378, 12387, 12391, 12392, 12413 Male, DOB: 03Feb1961; TOB: 21.37; POB: Bangalore,India. Well its a fact I got married on 6 May 1991,10.30 AM, Bangalore, India to be precise!! Thanks Prabha , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Prabha ji, Anup ji and Nikhlesh ji, > > Yes, the basic things are there as per lessons so I haven’t pointed it out, like the laws for multiple marriage or relationships. Ve to Sun distance is more than 43 and aspected by Sa and Sa conjoins Su a luminary. So that is matching our laws. Venus in this case is Karak and Mool Karak and is very spoilt. Ve is controlling Ma and getting power from Ma and Mo is with Rahu in 12th house. Ju is also not checking Venus. So these are basic things which have been pointed out. 3 sectors of Ma shows he is more daring and intelligent as well. > > All these things are pointed out in Analysis by Nikhlesh ji, now if we know proper events, then we can time and verify other events as well and can make this a comprehensive study. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > On Behalf Of Anup. M > Friday December 19, 2008 12:11 PM > > Re: RE: A chart to study > > > Dear NIkhlesh ji and list, > > As Ash ji wrote, if the events are not properly reflected or given, > how we can ascertain TOB ? > > This chart has no past events ,as such, to verify lagna. > > Regards > Anup > > --- On Fri, 19/12/08, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: > nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur > Re: RE: A chart to study > > Friday, 19 December, 2008, 6:48 PM > > 19.12.2009 > > Sub: Male native 03.02.1961, 21.37 hrs, Bangalore, 12.N.59, 77.E.35, Asc:10 Vi 9 > > Query: Breakups before marriage.... ....why? > > Analysis: > > 1. Chart shows delay in marrage as Sa is placed in the 5th house and is thus aspecting Houses A,B,C. > > 2.. The distance between Sun & Venus is more than 43 degrees, which we all know delays the marriage and in all liklehood gives problem in marital life too. > > It enhances the desires for physical pleasures too. > > 3. He might have got married during the period March 1991 to Dec 1991 during the 1st sector of the AD of Ju in the MD of Rahu. > > Ju is LoD for 7th house and a strong significator of 7th house. > Ju is also LoE from Sun chart. > > Now, why the break-ups? > > 1. Ve here is the Boss for Ma as subordinate. So Ma gives points to Ve. In other words it is strengthening Ve. > > This Ve is already spoilt by the 3rd eye of Sa. This Sa is also the 6th lord. Ve is both NK & FK for marriage. So Sa was not allowing marriage to happen. The >43 degree distance from Sun must be enhancing the urge for physical pleasures (could be a reason for having lots of affairs) > > 2. The basic nature of Ve (atleast when it is in 7th house with less than 4 points) and the help of Ma on Ve was making this native attracted to opposite sex or may be vice versa. > Ra in the Nks of Ve must be adding fuel to this fire. There was no control of Ju. > > 3. The lord of the Asc (self) is affected by Moon & Rahu both of which are in the Nks of Ve. It is also affected by Ma which is in the Nks of Rahu. So this must be giving this native hidden desires hovering on the boundaries of pleasure. > > The effect of 6th lord on 7th house and malefic Ve did not culminate the affairs into marriage, I think so. > > 4. Ju & Ve are 4:10 but Ju is NOT the boss here and Ve must be causing obstacles in the endeavours of Ju, unless the AD of Ju arrived (Ju is Vargottam also, hence strong individually) . There is no zero in the SAV chart. > > 5. The 6th lord Sa has gone in the 5th house. So this Sa must be delaying the 5th house matters also (children). > > 6. The D9,D3, D30 charts does NOT show Venusian qualities in this native and this could be once reason for more break-ups because more sectors of Ma & Me was making the native sit up and THINK rather than 'flow with the feelings', as far as converting an affair into marriage is concerned. > > He must be a sincere listener to his mind rather than to his heart. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > >[astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of > >prabha.acharya > >Thursday December 18, 2008 7:48 AM > >astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > >[astrologyandtiming events] A chart to study > > > >Respected Guruji, Ash ji, and List Members, > >This is a chart of a Male, > >DOB: 03Feb1961; TOB: 21.37; POB: Bangalore,India. > >He had lots of affairs according to him but didnt materialise into > >marriage. Later married to another girl and is happy with a son > >and daughter. > >Why didnt the affairs convert into marriage? > >Thanks > >Prabha > > > > > > _____ > > Connect with friends all over the world.. Get <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_1/*http:/in.messenge r./?wm=n/> India Messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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