Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Respected Ash ji, In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following: " Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results. He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 in navamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only. " Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remain as SD or do they cease to remain SD. Thanks Prabha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Dear Prabha ji, No, please correct that then. Rasi and Navamsa have equal status. We check this relation in Rasi and Navamsa. If I might have made that mistake back then, then Guru ji would have corrected me and in future posts I would have mentioned that. That post was in 2003 and I had less clarity on KAS laws as compared to today. So please keep that in mind as well. Its good that you dug up this old post brought it up so it can be corrected. If Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in Rasi or Navamsa, they will cease to become NSD. Yes they can become SD functionally, but naturally they will not as 1:7 is of enmity. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of prabha.acharya Friday February 6, 2009 11:02 PM To: Subject: A doubt Respected Ash ji, In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following: " Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results. He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 in navamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only. " Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remain as SD or do they cease to remain SD. Thanks Prabha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Respected Ash ji, Thank you for the clarification. This was something which was bugging me for long time. Thanks Prabha , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Prabha ji, > > No, please correct that then. Rasi and Navamsa have equal status. We check > this relation in Rasi and Navamsa. If I might have made that mistake back > then, then Guru ji would have corrected me and in future posts I would have > mentioned that. That post was in 2003 and I had less clarity on KAS laws as > compared to today. So please keep that in mind as well. > > Its good that you dug up this old post brought it up so it can be corrected. > > > If Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in Rasi or Navamsa, they will cease to become NSD. > Yes they can become SD functionally, but naturally they will not as 1:7 is > of enmity. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of > prabha.acharya > Friday February 6, 2009 11:02 PM > > A doubt > > Respected Ash ji, > In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following: > " Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results. > He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 in > navamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only. " > > Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remain > as SD or do they cease to remain SD. > Thanks > Prabha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Dear Ash Ji, I have one basic doubt. I do not remember whether I have read sometimes in archives or somewhere. The doubt is,"When LoB occupy house A then the status of house B is diminished. Is it correct ?" In this case the planet occupy 8th house from its own house. If it is with more than 4 bindus or if it is less than 4 bindus. I think if it is nore than 4 bindus the karkatwa of house B should enhance on the contrary the planet with less than 4 then in this case the karkatwa should be in danger. What is the correct answer ? For your perusal may I give you one female native chart.Her DOB is 17 Aug 1981, TOB is 17:11 and POB is Hanamkonda 18 N 3, 79 E 32 India. This lady does not have any child birth even after 2.5 years of her marriage. In this chart 7th lord Mo is in 2nd and 2nd lord Sa is in 9th, 11th lord Ma is in 6th house. Those are all in 8th place from their owning house. Mo and Ma has more bindus and Sa has less bindu. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Sat, 7/2/09, Ash's Corner <kas wrote: Ash's Corner <kasRE: A doubt Date: Saturday, 7 February, 2009, 10:26 AM Dear Prabha ji, No, please correct that then. Rasi and Navamsa have equal status. We check this relation in Rasi and Navamsa. If I might have made that mistake back then, then Guru ji would have corrected me and in future posts I would have mentioned that. That post was in 2003 and I had less clarity on KAS laws as compared to today. So please keep that in mind as well. Its good that you dug up this old post brought it up so it can be corrected. If Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in Rasi or Navamsa, they will cease to become NSD. Yes they can become SD functionally, but naturally they will not as 1:7 is of enmity. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of prabha.acharyaFriday February 6, 2009 11:02 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Respected Ash ji,In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following:"Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results.He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 innavamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only."Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remainas SD or do they cease to remain SD.ThanksPrabha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Dear Prabha ji, If such things are there which are contra, the please bring it to my notice, so that we can discuss on it and clarify. It is important that the fundamentals be crystal clear and strong, then everything else will fall in place nicely. Thanks. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of prabha.acharya Saturday February 7, 2009 12:06 AM To: Subject: Re: A doubt Respected Ash ji, Thank you for the clarification. This was something which was bugging me for long time. Thanks Prabha , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Prabha ji, > > No, please correct that then. Rasi and Navamsa have equal status. We check > this relation in Rasi and Navamsa. If I might have made that mistake back > then, then Guru ji would have corrected me and in future posts I would have > mentioned that. That post was in 2003 and I had less clarity on KAS laws as > compared to today. So please keep that in mind as well. > > Its good that you dug up this old post brought it up so it can be corrected. > > > If Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in Rasi or Navamsa, they will cease to become NSD. > Yes they can become SD functionally, but naturally they will not as 1:7 is > of enmity. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of > prabha.acharya > Friday February 6, 2009 11:02 PM > > A doubt > > Respected Ash ji, > In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following: > " Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results. > He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 in > navamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only. " > > Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remain > as SD or do they cease to remain SD. > Thanks > Prabha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Dear Ramesh ji, These things are all for Quality. Yes, when a planet is in 8th from own house then, the karaktwa for the house it denotes reduces. Say in this case, 2nd lord is in 9th house, then results of 7th house are reduced. If 9th lord is in 2nd house then the result of 7th house is enhanced. So we are saying that the father/guru becomes the Karak for marriage and so that is a blessing. For timing of event, we are going by the WS. So this is more detailed portion and Guru ji will cover it in due course of time. In short, in VA it is said that planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are considered bad but in KAS we are saying that planets in 6th house are bad, planets in 8th house from own house is bad and 12th house is not conducive to the result of House B. On the contrary, 12th house is the most benefic house in the chart. If you go by symmetry of the chart, if 6th is the worst house then 12th will be the best. In VA, 8th house and 12th house has been fixed for all house along with 6th house. In KAS, we do not consider 8th and 12th house of the chart as Bad for all events. So for 1st house, if 1st lord is in 8th house then that is not good and if 1st lord is in 12th house then we are saying that it will enhance the result of the 1st house but the 6th house matters will suffer. That planet will not be able to give the result of House B = 6 as it will aspect 6th house from 12th house, so it will have enmity sight. In D charts, in KAS, planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are not considered auspicious. These things are all relating to quality, so It will be more confusing to talk about this on Timing and Events list. This email is ONLY for advanced students. Beginners please do not get confused with this email, just read it as “FYI”. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Saturday February 7, 2009 1:29 AM To: RE: A doubt Dear Ash Ji, I have one basic doubt. I do not remember whether I have read sometimes in archives or somewhere. The doubt is, " When LoB occupy house A then the status of house B is diminished. Is it correct ? " In this case the planet occupy 8th house from its own house. If it is with more than 4 bindus or if it is less than 4 bindus. I think if it is nore than 4 bindus the karkatwa of house B should enhance on the contrary the planet with less than 4 then in this case the karkatwa should be in danger. What is the correct answer ? For your perusal may I give you one female native chart.Her DOB is 17 Aug 1981, TOB is 17:11 and POB is Hanamkonda 18 N 3, 79 E 32 India. This lady does not have any child birth even after 2.5 years of her marriage. In this chart 7th lord Mo is in 2nd and 2nd lord Sa is in 9th, 11th lord Ma is in 6th house. Those are all in 8th place from their owning house. Mo and Ma has more bindus and Sa has less bindu. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro --- On Sat, 7/2/09, Ash's Corner <kas wrote: Ash's Corner <kas RE: A doubt Saturday, 7 February, 2009, 10:26 AM Dear Prabha ji, No, please correct that then. Rasi and Navamsa have equal status. We check this relation in Rasi and Navamsa. If I might have made that mistake back then, then Guru ji would have corrected me and in future posts I would have mentioned that. That post was in 2003 and I had less clarity on KAS laws as compared to today. So please keep that in mind as well. Its good that you dug up this old post brought it up so it can be corrected. If Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in Rasi or Navamsa, they will cease to become NSD. Yes they can become SD functionally, but naturally they will not as 1:7 is of enmity. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of prabha.acharya Friday February 6, 2009 11:02 PM astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Respected Ash ji, In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following: " Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results. He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 in navamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only. " Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remain as SD or do they cease to remain SD. Thanks Prabha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Dear Ash, Why would 9th lord in 2nd house enhance the quality of 7th house. It would enhance the 9th house as 2nd is upachaya for 9th. Yes it would be in karaka house for 7th but would the points it has in 2nd house decide the quality? 2nd lord going to 9th will diminish 7th house as 2nd lord is karaka for 7th house going to 8th from itself is understood. Thanks Satish "Ash's Corner" <kas Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2009 11:59:32 AMRE: A doubt Dear Ramesh ji, These things are all for Quality. Yes, when a planet is in 8th from own house then, the karaktwa for the house it denotes reduces. Say in this case, 2nd lord is in 9th house, then results of 7th house are reduced. If 9th lord is in 2nd house then the result of 7th house is enhanced. So we are saying that the father/guru becomes the Karak for marriage and so that is a blessing. For timing of event, we are going by the WS. So this is more detailed portion and Guru ji will cover it in due course of time. In short, in VA it is said that planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are considered bad but in KAS we are saying that planets in 6th house are bad, planets in 8th house from own house is bad and 12th house is not conducive to the result of House B. On the contrary, 12th house is the most benefic house in the chart. If you go by symmetry of the chart, if 6th is the worst house then 12th will be the best. In VA, 8th house and 12th house has been fixed for all house along with 6th house. In KAS, we do not consider 8th and 12th house of the chart as Bad for all events. So for 1st house, if 1st lord is in 8th house then that is not good and if 1st lord is in 12th house then we are saying that it will enhance the result of the 1st house but the 6th house matters will suffer. That planet will not be able to give the result of House B = 6 as it will aspect 6th house from 12th house, so it will have enmity sight. In D charts, in KAS, planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are not considered auspicious. These things are all relating to quality, so It will be more confusing to talk about this on Timing and Events list. This email is ONLY for advanced students. Beginners please do not get confused with this email, just read it as “FYI”. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of ramesh mishraSaturday February 7, 2009 1:29 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ash Ji, I have one basic doubt. I do not remember whether I have read sometimes in archives or somewhere. The doubt is,"When LoB occupy house A then the status of house B is diminished. Is it correct ?" In this case the planet occupy 8th house from its own house. If it is with more than 4 bindus or if it is less than 4 bindus. I think if it is nore than 4 bindus the karkatwa of house B should enhance on the contrary the planet with less than 4 then in this case the karkatwa should be in danger. What is the correct answer ? For your perusal may I give you one female native chart.Her DOB is 17 Aug 1981, TOB is 17:11 and POB is Hanamkonda 18 N 3, 79 E 32 India. This lady does not have any child birth even after 2.5 years of her marriage. In this chart 7th lord Mo is in 2nd and 2nd lord Sa is in 9th, 11th lord Ma is in 6th house. Those are all in 8th place from their owning house. Mo and Ma has more bindus and Sa has less bindu. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Sat, 7/2/09, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote: Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kasRE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubtastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSaturday, 7 February, 2009, 10:26 AM Dear Prabha ji, No, please correct that then. Rasi and Navamsa have equal status. We check this relation in Rasi and Navamsa. If I might have made that mistake back then, then Guru ji would have corrected me and in future posts I would have mentioned that. That post was in 2003 and I had less clarity on KAS laws as compared to today. So please keep that in mind as well. Its good that you dug up this old post brought it up so it can be corrected. If Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in Rasi or Navamsa, they will cease to become NSD. Yes they can become SD functionally, but naturally they will not as 1:7 is of enmity. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of prabha.acharyaFriday February 6, 2009 11:02 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Respected Ash ji,In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following:"Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results.He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 innavamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only."Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remainas SD or do they cease to remain SD.ThanksPrabha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Dear Satish Ji,9th house is judged for tather.If 9thlord goes to 2nd house means it goes to the karak house for 7th house and 7th house is judged for marriage.Hence by occupying 9thlord in karak sthaan of 7th house will indicate that father gives the acceptance of marriage to the native.In other words we may say that father is giving blessings.Hope I may be correct.ThanksRamesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Sun, 8/2/09, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:SPK <aquaris_risingRe: A doubt Date: Sunday, 8 February, 2009, 6:59 PM Dear Ash, Why would 9th lord in 2nd house enhance the quality of 7th house. It would enhance the 9th house as 2nd is upachaya for 9th. Yes it would be in karaka house for 7th but would the points it has in 2nd house decide the quality? 2nd lord going to 9th will diminish 7th house as 2nd lord is karaka for 7th house going to 8th from itself is understood. Thanks Satish "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kasastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSaturday, February 7, 2009 11:59:32 AMRE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ramesh ji, These things are all for Quality. Yes, when a planet is in 8th from own house then, the karaktwa for the house it denotes reduces. Say in this case, 2nd lord is in 9th house, then results of 7th house are reduced. If 9th lord is in 2nd house then the result of 7th house is enhanced. So we are saying that the father/guru becomes the Karak for marriage and so that is a blessing. For timing of event, we are going by the WS. So this is more detailed portion and Guru ji will cover it in due course of time. In short, in VA it is said that planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are considered bad but in KAS we are saying that planets in 6th house are bad, planets in 8th house from own house is bad and 12th house is not conducive to the result of House B. On the contrary, 12th house is the most benefic house in the chart. If you go by symmetry of the chart, if 6th is the worst house then 12th will be the best. In VA, 8th house and 12th house has been fixed for all house along with 6th house. In KAS, we do not consider 8th and 12th house of the chart as Bad for all events. So for 1st house, if 1st lord is in 8th house then that is not good and if 1st lord is in 12th house then we are saying that it will enhance the result of the 1st house but the 6th house matters will suffer. That planet will not be able to give the result of House B = 6 as it will aspect 6th house from 12th house, so it will have enmity sight. In D charts, in KAS, planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are not considered auspicious. These things are all relating to quality, so It will be more confusing to talk about this on Timing and Events list. This email is ONLY for advanced students. Beginners please do not get confused with this email, just read it as “FYIâ€. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of ramesh mishraSaturday February 7, 2009 1:29 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ash Ji, I have one basic doubt. I do not remember whether I have read sometimes in archives or somewhere. The doubt is,"When LoB occupy house A then the status of house B is diminished. Is it correct ?" In this case the planet occupy 8th house from its own house. If it is with more than 4 bindus or if it is less than 4 bindus. I think if it is nore than 4 bindus the karkatwa of house B should enhance on the contrary the planet with less than 4 then in this case the karkatwa should be in danger. What is the correct answer ? For your perusal may I give you one female native chart.Her DOB is 17 Aug 1981, TOB is 17:11 and POB is Hanamkonda 18 N 3, 79 E 32 India. This lady does not have any child birth even after 2.5 years of her marriage. In this chart 7th lord Mo is in 2nd and 2nd lord Sa is in 9th, 11th lord Ma is in 6th house. Those are all in 8th place from their owning house. Mo and Ma has more bindus and Sa has less bindu. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Sat, 7/2/09, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote: Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kasRE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubtastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSaturday, 7 February, 2009, 10:26 AM Dear Prabha ji, No, please correct that then. Rasi and Navamsa have equal status. We check this relation in Rasi and Navamsa. If I might have made that mistake back then, then Guru ji would have corrected me and in future posts I would have mentioned that. That post was in 2003 and I had less clarity on KAS laws as compared to today. So please keep that in mind as well. Its good that you dug up this old post brought it up so it can be corrected. If Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in Rasi or Navamsa, they will cease to become NSD. Yes they can become SD functionally, but naturally they will not as 1:7 is of enmity. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of prabha.acharyaFriday February 6, 2009 11:02 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Respected Ash ji,In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following:"Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results.He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 innavamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only."Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remainas SD or do they cease to remain SD.ThanksPrabha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Dear Rameshji and other members, 9 th lord is karak for 2nd house and is Root karak for 7th house. Now ninth lord in 2nd means lord of 9th house is enhanced, as it is in Upchay house. Root karak is also very important for marriage. As per kalpurush chart (natural chart) 9th lord is Jupiter. Hence Jupiter is natural Root karak for 7th house. So if 9th lord is situated in 2nd house quality of marital happiness is better. It can super shed some problems also. It might have been observed that for marriage " Guru bal " is seen. Transit of Guru (Jupiter) is also considered. This is nothing but part and partial of Astakvarg. Even in our system zero in ninth house is having more importance. This may delay in marriage, some cases may not give child. In case with other problems may give denial of marriage. Ash is away from his laptop, hence he may not answer for one week till 16th Feb. Today I had some spare time hence came her and answered. Still few more days I may not be able to take active participation. Please bear with me. Thanks krushna On 2/8/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Satish Ji,9th house is judged for tather.If 9thlord goes to 2nd house means it goes to the karak house for 7th house and 7th house is judged for marriage.Hence by occupying 9thlord in karak sthaan of 7th house will indicate that father gives the acceptance of marriage to the native. In other words we may say that father is giving blessings.Hope I may be correct.ThanksRamesh Mishrarcmastro --- On Sun, 8/2/09, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: SPK <aquaris_rising Re: A doubt Sunday, 8 February, 2009, 6:59 PM Dear Ash, Why would 9th lord in 2nd house enhance the quality of 7th house. It would enhance the 9th house as 2nd is upachaya for 9th. Yes it would be in karaka house for 7th but would the points it has in 2nd house decide the quality? 2nd lord going to 9th will diminish 7th house as 2nd lord is karaka for 7th house going to 8th from itself is understood. Thanks Satish " Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca " <kas astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSaturday, February 7, 2009 11:59:32 AM RE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ramesh ji, These things are all for Quality. Yes, when a planet is in 8th from own house then, the karaktwa for the house it denotes reduces. Say in this case, 2nd lord is in 9th house, then results of 7th house are reduced. If 9th lord is in 2nd house then the result of 7th house is enhanced. So we are saying that the father/guru becomes the Karak for marriage and so that is a blessing. For timing of event, we are going by the WS. So this is more detailed portion and Guru ji will cover it in due course of time. In short, in VA it is said that planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are considered bad but in KAS we are saying that planets in 6th house are bad, planets in 8th house from own house is bad and 12th house is not conducive to the result of House B. On the contrary, 12th house is the most benefic house in the chart. If you go by symmetry of the chart, if 6th is the worst house then 12th will be the best. In VA, 8th house and 12th house has been fixed for all house along with 6th house. In KAS, we do not consider 8th and 12th house of the chart as Bad for all events. So for 1st house, if 1st lord is in 8th house then that is not good and if 1st lord is in 12th house then we are saying that it will enhance the result of the 1st house but the 6th house matters will suffer. That planet will not be able to give the result of House B = 6 as it will aspect 6th house from 12th house, so it will have enmity sight. In D charts, in KAS, planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are not considered auspicious. These things are all relating to quality, so It will be more confusing to talk about this on Timing and Events list. This email is ONLY for advanced students. Beginners please do not get confused with this email, just read it as "FYI". Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Saturday February 7, 2009 1:29 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com RE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ash Ji, I have one basic doubt. I do not remember whether I have read sometimes in archives or somewhere. The doubt is, " When LoB occupy house A then the status of house B is diminished. Is it correct ? " In this case the planet occupy 8th house from its own house. If it is with more than 4 bindus or if it is less than 4 bindus. I think if it is nore than 4 bindus the karkatwa of house B should enhance on the contrary the planet with less than 4 then in this case the karkatwa should be in danger. What is the correct answer ? For your perusal may I give you one female native chart.Her DOB is 17 Aug 1981, TOB is 17:11 and POB is Hanamkonda 18 N 3, 79 E 32 India. This lady does not have any child birth even after 2.5 years of her marriage. In this chart 7th lord Mo is in 2nd and 2nd lord Sa is in 9th, 11th lord Ma is in 6th house. Those are all in 8th place from their owning house. Mo and Ma has more bindus and Sa has less bindu. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro --- On Sat, 7/2/09, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote: Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas RE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubtastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSaturday, 7 February, 2009, 10:26 AM Dear Prabha ji, No, please correct that then. Rasi and Navamsa have equal status. We check this relation in Rasi and Navamsa. If I might have made that mistake back then, then Guru ji would have corrected me and in future posts I would have mentioned that. That post was in 2003 and I had less clarity on KAS laws as compared to today. So please keep that in mind as well. Its good that you dug up this old post brought it up so it can be corrected. If Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in Rasi or Navamsa, they will cease to become NSD. Yes they can become SD functionally, but naturally they will not as 1:7 is of enmity. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of prabha.acharya Friday February 6, 2009 11:02 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Respected Ash ji,In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following: " Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results.He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 in navamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only. " Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remainas SD or do they cease to remain SD.ThanksPrabha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Dear Guru Krushanji, Thank you for your explanation. Satish krushana Jugal <krushana Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 11:02:08 AMRe: A doubt Dear Rameshji and other members, 9 th lord is karak for 2nd house and is Root karak for 7th house. Now ninth lord in 2nd means lord of 9th house is enhanced, as it is in Upchay house. Root karak is also very important for marriage. As per kalpurush chart (natural chart) 9th lord is Jupiter. Hence Jupiter is natural Root karak for 7th house. So if 9th lord is situated in 2nd house quality of marital happiness is better. It can super shed some problems also. It might have been observed that for marriage "Guru bal" is seen. Transit of Guru (Jupiter) is also considered. This is nothing but part and partial of Astakvarg. Even in our system zero in ninth house is having more importance. This may delay in marriage, some cases may not give child. In case with other problems may give denial of marriage. Ash is away from his laptop, hence he may not answer for one week till 16th Feb. Today I had some spare time hence came her and answered. Still few more days I may not be able to take active participation. Please bear with me. Thanks krushna On 2/8/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Satish Ji,9th house is judged for tather.If 9thlord goes to 2nd house means it goes to the karak house for 7th house and 7th house is judged for marriage.Hence by occupying 9thlord in karak sthaan of 7th house will indicate that father gives the acceptance of marriage to the native.In other words we may say that father is giving blessings.Hope I may be correct.ThanksRamesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Sun, 8/2/09, SPK <aquaris_rising@ > wrote: SPK <aquaris_rising@ >Re: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubtastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSunday, 8 February, 2009, 6:59 PM Dear Ash, Why would 9th lord in 2nd house enhance the quality of 7th house. It would enhance the 9th house as 2nd is upachaya for 9th. Yes it would be in karaka house for 7th but would the points it has in 2nd house decide the quality? 2nd lord going to 9th will diminish 7th house as 2nd lord is karaka for 7th house going to 8th from itself is understood. Thanks Satish "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kasastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSaturday, February 7, 2009 11:59:32 AM RE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ramesh ji, These things are all for Quality. Yes, when a planet is in 8th from own house then, the karaktwa for the house it denotes reduces. Say in this case, 2nd lord is in 9th house, then results of 7th house are reduced. If 9th lord is in 2nd house then the result of 7th house is enhanced. So we are saying that the father/guru becomes the Karak for marriage and so that is a blessing. For timing of event, we are going by the WS. So this is more detailed portion and Guru ji will cover it in due course of time. In short, in VA it is said that planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are considered bad but in KAS we are saying that planets in 6th house are bad, planets in 8th house from own house is bad and 12th house is not conducive to the result of House B. On the contrary, 12th house is the most benefic house in the chart. If you go by symmetry of the chart, if 6th is the worst house then 12th will be the best. In VA, 8th house and 12th house has been fixed for all house along with 6th house. In KAS, we do not consider 8th and 12th house of the chart as Bad for all events. So for 1st house, if 1st lord is in 8th house then that is not good and if 1st lord is in 12th house then we are saying that it will enhance the result of the 1st house but the 6th house matters will suffer. That planet will not be able to give the result of House B = 6 as it will aspect 6th house from 12th house, so it will have enmity sight. In D charts, in KAS, planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are not considered auspicious. These things are all relating to quality, so It will be more confusing to talk about this on Timing and Events list. This email is ONLY for advanced students. Beginners please do not get confused with this email, just read it as "FYI". Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of ramesh mishraSaturday February 7, 2009 1:29 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ash Ji, I have one basic doubt. I do not remember whether I have read sometimes in archives or somewhere. The doubt is,"When LoB occupy house A then the status of house B is diminished. Is it correct ?" In this case the planet occupy 8th house from its own house. If it is with more than 4 bindus or if it is less than 4 bindus. I think if it is nore than 4 bindus the karkatwa of house B should enhance on the contrary the planet with less than 4 then in this case the karkatwa should be in danger. What is the correct answer ? For your perusal may I give you one female native chart.Her DOB is 17 Aug 1981, TOB is 17:11 and POB is Hanamkonda 18 N 3, 79 E 32 India. This lady does not have any child birth even after 2.5 years of her marriage. In this chart 7th lord Mo is in 2nd and 2nd lord Sa is in 9th, 11th lord Ma is in 6th house. Those are all in 8th place from their owning house. Mo and Ma has more bindus and Sa has less bindu. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Sat, 7/2/09, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote: Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kasRE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubtastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSaturday, 7 February, 2009, 10:26 AM Dear Prabha ji, No, please correct that then. Rasi and Navamsa have equal status. We check this relation in Rasi and Navamsa. If I might have made that mistake back then, then Guru ji would have corrected me and in future posts I would have mentioned that. That post was in 2003 and I had less clarity on KAS laws as compared to today. So please keep that in mind as well. Its good that you dug up this old post brought it up so it can be corrected. If Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in Rasi or Navamsa, they will cease to become NSD. Yes they can become SD functionally, but naturally they will not as 1:7 is of enmity. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of prabha.acharyaFriday February 6, 2009 11:02 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Respected Ash ji,In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following:"Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results.He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 innavamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only."Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remainas SD or do they cease to remain SD.ThanksPrabha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Thank you Guru Ji for explanation.Can you please tell us the role of ROOT KARAK.Normally karak of a house gives the karkatwa of the house in focus.The karakatwa of a house depends upon the strength of its karak planet.Root karak of a house is 3rd lord from the house in focus. 3rd house indicates the courage and also the ayursthaan of house in focus.If 3rd lord from any house is strong means the house in focus has good longevity.Is that correct Guru Ji ?Regards and Pranaam.Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Sun, 8/2/09, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:SPK <aquaris_risingSubject: Re: A doubt Date: Sunday, 8 February, 2009, 11:01 PM Dear Guru Krushanji, Thank you for your explanation. Satish krushana Jugal <krushana (AT) gmail (DOT) com>astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSunday, February 8, 2009 11:02:08 AMRe: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Rameshji and other members, 9 th lord is karak for 2nd house and is Root karak for 7th house. Now ninth lord in 2nd means lord of 9th house is enhanced, as it is in Upchay house. Root karak is also very important for marriage. As per kalpurush chart (natural chart) 9th lord is Jupiter. Hence Jupiter is natural Root karak for 7th house. So if 9th lord is situated in 2nd house quality of marital happiness is better. It can super shed some problems also. It might have been observed that for marriage "Guru bal" is seen. Transit of Guru (Jupiter) is also considered. This is nothing but part and partial of Astakvarg. Even in our system zero in ninth house is having more importance. This may delay in marriage, some cases may not give child. In case with other problems may give denial of marriage. Ash is away from his laptop, hence he may not answer for one week till 16th Feb. Today I had some spare time hence came her and answered. Still few more days I may not be able to take active participation. Please bear with me. Thanks krushna On 2/8/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Satish Ji,9th house is judged for tather.If 9thlord goes to 2nd house means it goes to the karak house for 7th house and 7th house is judged for marriage.Hence by occupying 9thlord in karak sthaan of 7th house will indicate that father gives the acceptance of marriage to the native.In other words we may say that father is giving blessings.Hope I may be correct.ThanksRamesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Sun, 8/2/09, SPK <aquaris_rising@ > wrote: SPK <aquaris_rising@ >Re: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubtastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSunday, 8 February, 2009, 6:59 PM Dear Ash, Why would 9th lord in 2nd house enhance the quality of 7th house. It would enhance the 9th house as 2nd is upachaya for 9th. Yes it would be in karaka house for 7th but would the points it has in 2nd house decide the quality? 2nd lord going to 9th will diminish 7th house as 2nd lord is karaka for 7th house going to 8th from itself is understood. Thanks Satish "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kasastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSaturday, February 7, 2009 11:59:32 AM RE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ramesh ji, These things are all for Quality. Yes, when a planet is in 8th from own house then, the karaktwa for the house it denotes reduces. Say in this case, 2nd lord is in 9th house, then results of 7th house are reduced. If 9th lord is in 2nd house then the result of 7th house is enhanced. So we are saying that the father/guru becomes the Karak for marriage and so that is a blessing. For timing of event, we are going by the WS. So this is more detailed portion and Guru ji will cover it in due course of time. In short, in VA it is said that planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are considered bad but in KAS we are saying that planets in 6th house are bad, planets in 8th house from own house is bad and 12th house is not conducive to the result of House B. On the contrary, 12th house is the most benefic house in the chart. If you go by symmetry of the chart, if 6th is the worst house then 12th will be the best. In VA, 8th house and 12th house has been fixed for all house along with 6th house. In KAS, we do not consider 8th and 12th house of the chart as Bad for all events. So for 1st house, if 1st lord is in 8th house then that is not good and if 1st lord is in 12th house then we are saying that it will enhance the result of the 1st house but the 6th house matters will suffer. That planet will not be able to give the result of House B = 6 as it will aspect 6th house from 12th house, so it will have enmity sight. In D charts, in KAS, planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are not considered auspicious. These things are all relating to quality, so It will be more confusing to talk about this on Timing and Events list. This email is ONLY for advanced students. Beginners please do not get confused with this email, just read it as "FYI". Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of ramesh mishraSaturday February 7, 2009 1:29 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ash Ji, I have one basic doubt. I do not remember whether I have read sometimes in archives or somewhere. The doubt is,"When LoB occupy house A then the status of house B is diminished. Is it correct ?" In this case the planet occupy 8th house from its own house. If it is with more than 4 bindus or if it is less than 4 bindus. I think if it is nore than 4 bindus the karkatwa of house B should enhance on the contrary the planet with less than 4 then in this case the karkatwa should be in danger. What is the correct answer ? For your perusal may I give you one female native chart.Her DOB is 17 Aug 1981, TOB is 17:11 and POB is Hanamkonda 18 N 3, 79 E 32 India. This lady does not have any child birth even after 2.5 years of her marriage. In this chart 7th lord Mo is in 2nd and 2nd lord Sa is in 9th, 11th lord Ma is in 6th house. Those are all in 8th place from their owning house. Mo and Ma has more bindus and Sa has less bindu. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Sat, 7/2/09, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote: Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kasRE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubtastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSaturday, 7 February, 2009, 10:26 AM Dear Prabha ji, No, please correct that then. Rasi and Navamsa have equal status. We check this relation in Rasi and Navamsa. If I might have made that mistake back then, then Guru ji would have corrected me and in future posts I would have mentioned that. That post was in 2003 and I had less clarity on KAS laws as compared to today. So please keep that in mind as well. Its good that you dug up this old post brought it up so it can be corrected. If Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in Rasi or Navamsa, they will cease to become NSD. Yes they can become SD functionally, but naturally they will not as 1:7 is of enmity. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of prabha.acharyaFriday February 6, 2009 11:02 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Respected Ash ji,In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following:"Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results.He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 innavamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only."Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remainas SD or do they cease to remain SD.ThanksPrabha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Dear Rameshji, Instead of calling it as good longevity it should be called as good quality. Root karak and karak gives quality. If there is some problem with these karaks then quality is affected and may give delay. For marriage we see Venus (NK) and Jupiter (NRK). If these karaks are spoiled then along with reduced quality may give delay too. our laws regarding Venus and Jupiter are given in some lesson. Same way if malefic planets, sixth lord situated in these house also give similar result. If planet/s situated in 4th place from karak and/or Root karak with less points or sixth lord will also affect on the quality. thanks krushna On 2/9/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Thank you Guru Ji for explanation.Can you please tell us the role of ROOT KARAK.Normally karak of a house gives the karkatwa of the house in focus.The karakatwa of a house depends upon the strength of its karak planet. Root karak of a house is 3rd lord from the house in focus. 3rd house indicates the courage and also the ayursthaan of house in focus.If 3rd lord from any house is strong means the house in focus has good longevity. Is that correct Guru Ji ?Regards and Pranaam.Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Sun, 8/2/09, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: SPK <aquaris_rising Re: A doubt Sunday, 8 February, 2009, 11:01 PM Dear Guru Krushanji, Thank you for your explanation. Satish krushana Jugal <krushana (AT) gmail (DOT) com>astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Sunday, February 8, 2009 11:02:08 AMRe: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Rameshji and other members, 9 th lord is karak for 2nd house and is Root karak for 7th house. Now ninth lord in 2nd means lord of 9th house is enhanced, as it is in Upchay house. Root karak is also very important for marriage. As per kalpurush chart (natural chart) 9th lord is Jupiter. Hence Jupiter is natural Root karak for 7th house. So if 9th lord is situated in 2nd house quality of marital happiness is better. It can super shed some problems also. It might have been observed that for marriage " Guru bal " is seen. Transit of Guru (Jupiter) is also considered. This is nothing but part and partial of Astakvarg. Even in our system zero in ninth house is having more importance. This may delay in marriage, some cases may not give child. In case with other problems may give denial of marriage. Ash is away from his laptop, hence he may not answer for one week till 16th Feb. Today I had some spare time hence came her and answered. Still few more days I may not be able to take active participation. Please bear with me. Thanks krushna On 2/8/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Satish Ji,9th house is judged for tather.If 9thlord goes to 2nd house means it goes to the karak house for 7th house and 7th house is judged for marriage.Hence by occupying 9thlord in karak sthaan of 7th house will indicate that father gives the acceptance of marriage to the native. In other words we may say that father is giving blessings.Hope I may be correct.ThanksRamesh Mishrarcmastro --- On Sun, 8/2/09, SPK <aquaris_rising@ > wrote: SPK <aquaris_rising@ > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubtastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Sunday, 8 February, 2009, 6:59 PM Dear Ash, Why would 9th lord in 2nd house enhance the quality of 7th house. It would enhance the 9th house as 2nd is upachaya for 9th. Yes it would be in karaka house for 7th but would the points it has in 2nd house decide the quality? 2nd lord going to 9th will diminish 7th house as 2nd lord is karaka for 7th house going to 8th from itself is understood. Thanks Satish " Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca " <kas astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Saturday, February 7, 2009 11:59:32 AM RE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ramesh ji, These things are all for Quality. Yes, when a planet is in 8th from own house then, the karaktwa for the house it denotes reduces. Say in this case, 2nd lord is in 9th house, then results of 7th house are reduced. If 9th lord is in 2nd house then the result of 7th house is enhanced. So we are saying that the father/guru becomes the Karak for marriage and so that is a blessing. For timing of event, we are going by the WS. So this is more detailed portion and Guru ji will cover it in due course of time. In short, in VA it is said that planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are considered bad but in KAS we are saying that planets in 6th house are bad, planets in 8th house from own house is bad and 12th house is not conducive to the result of House B. On the contrary, 12th house is the most benefic house in the chart. If you go by symmetry of the chart, if 6th is the worst house then 12th will be the best. In VA, 8th house and 12th house has been fixed for all house along with 6th house. In KAS, we do not consider 8th and 12th house of the chart as Bad for all events. So for 1st house, if 1st lord is in 8th house then that is not good and if 1st lord is in 12th house then we are saying that it will enhance the result of the 1st house but the 6th house matters will suffer. That planet will not be able to give the result of House B = 6 as it will aspect 6th house from 12th house, so it will have enmity sight. In D charts, in KAS, planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are not considered auspicious. These things are all relating to quality, so It will be more confusing to talk about this on Timing and Events list. This email is ONLY for advanced students. Beginners please do not get confused with this email, just read it as " FYI " . Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Saturday February 7, 2009 1:29 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com RE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ash Ji, I have one basic doubt. I do not remember whether I have read sometimes in archives or somewhere. The doubt is, " When LoB occupy house A then the status of house B is diminished. Is it correct ? " In this case the planet occupy 8th house from its own house. If it is with more than 4 bindus or if it is less than 4 bindus. I think if it is nore than 4 bindus the karkatwa of house B should enhance on the contrary the planet with less than 4 then in this case the karkatwa should be in danger. What is the correct answer ? For your perusal may I give you one female native chart.Her DOB is 17 Aug 1981, TOB is 17:11 and POB is Hanamkonda 18 N 3, 79 E 32 India. This lady does not have any child birth even after 2.5 years of her marriage. In this chart 7th lord Mo is in 2nd and 2nd lord Sa is in 9th, 11th lord Ma is in 6th house. Those are all in 8th place from their owning house. Mo and Ma has more bindus and Sa has less bindu. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro --- On Sat, 7/2/09, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote: Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas RE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubtastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSaturday, 7 February, 2009, 10:26 AM Dear Prabha ji, No, please correct that then. Rasi and Navamsa have equal status. We check this relation in Rasi and Navamsa. If I might have made that mistake back then, then Guru ji would have corrected me and in future posts I would have mentioned that. That post was in 2003 and I had less clarity on KAS laws as compared to today. So please keep that in mind as well. Its good that you dug up this old post brought it up so it can be corrected. If Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in Rasi or Navamsa, they will cease to become NSD. Yes they can become SD functionally, but naturally they will not as 1:7 is of enmity. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of prabha.acharya Friday February 6, 2009 11:02 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Respected Ash ji,In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following: " Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results.He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 in navamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only. " Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remainas SD or do they cease to remain SD.ThanksPrabha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Respected Guru Ji, Pranaam, Many many thanks for quick response. For break in marriage we say that 2nd house should be considered as B.Then karak of 2nd becomes the root karak of 7th house . If the karaktwa of 2nd house is spoiled then automatically the quality of 7th will be affected. Is this correct ? Similarly we way consider the role of ROOT KARAK for any house. Thanks and regards.rcmastro--- On Mon, 9/2/09, krushana Jugal <krushana wrote: krushana Jugal <krushanaRe: A doubt Date: Monday, 9 February, 2009, 2:29 PM Dear Rameshji, Instead of calling it as good longevity it should be called as good quality. Root karak and karak gives quality. If there is some problem with these karaks then quality is affected and may give delay. For marriage we see Venus (NK) and Jupiter (NRK). If these karaks are spoiled then along with reduced quality may give delay too. our laws regarding Venus and Jupiter are given in some lesson. Same way if malefic planets, sixth lord situated in these house also give similar result. If planet/s situated in 4th place from karak and/or Root karak with less points or sixth lord will also affect on the quality. thanks krushna On 2/9/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote: Thank you Guru Ji for explanation. Can you please tell us the role of ROOT KARAK.Normally karak of a house gives the karkatwa of the house in focus.The karakatwa of a house depends upon the strength of its karak planet.Root karak of a house is 3rd lord from the house in focus. 3rd house indicates the courage and also the ayursthaan of house in focus.If 3rd lord from any house is strong means the house in focus has good longevity.Is that correct Guru Ji ?Regards and Pranaam.Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Sun, 8/2/09, SPK <aquaris_rising@ > wrote: SPK <aquaris_rising@ >Re: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubtastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSunday, 8 February, 2009, 11:01 PM Dear Guru Krushanji, Thank you for your explanation. Satish krushana Jugal <krushana (AT) gmail (DOT) com>astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSunday, February 8, 2009 11:02:08 AMRe: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Rameshji and other members, 9 th lord is karak for 2nd house and is Root karak for 7th house. Now ninth lord in 2nd means lord of 9th house is enhanced, as it is in Upchay house. Root karak is also very important for marriage. As per kalpurush chart (natural chart) 9th lord is Jupiter. Hence Jupiter is natural Root karak for 7th house. So if 9th lord is situated in 2nd house quality of marital happiness is better. It can super shed some problems also. It might have been observed that for marriage "Guru bal" is seen. Transit of Guru (Jupiter) is also considered. This is nothing but part and partial of Astakvarg. Even in our system zero in ninth house is having more importance. This may delay in marriage, some cases may not give child. In case with other problems may give denial of marriage. Ash is away from his laptop, hence he may not answer for one week till 16th Feb. Today I had some spare time hence came her and answered. Still few more days I may not be able to take active participation. Please bear with me. Thanks krushna On 2/8/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Satish Ji,9th house is judged for tather.If 9thlord goes to 2nd house means it goes to the karak house for 7th house and 7th house is judged for marriage.Hence by occupying 9thlord in karak sthaan of 7th house will indicate that father gives the acceptance of marriage to the native.In other words we may say that father is giving blessings.Hope I may be correct.ThanksRamesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Sun, 8/2/09, SPK <aquaris_rising@ > wrote: SPK <aquaris_rising@ >Re: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubtastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSunday, 8 February, 2009, 6:59 PM Dear Ash, Why would 9th lord in 2nd house enhance the quality of 7th house. It would enhance the 9th house as 2nd is upachaya for 9th. Yes it would be in karaka house for 7th but would the points it has in 2nd house decide the quality? 2nd lord going to 9th will diminish 7th house as 2nd lord is karaka for 7th house going to 8th from itself is understood. Thanks Satish "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kasastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSaturday, February 7, 2009 11:59:32 AM RE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ramesh ji, These things are all for Quality. Yes, when a planet is in 8th from own house then, the karaktwa for the house it denotes reduces. Say in this case, 2nd lord is in 9th house, then results of 7th house are reduced. If 9th lord is in 2nd house then the result of 7th house is enhanced. So we are saying that the father/guru becomes the Karak for marriage and so that is a blessing. For timing of event, we are going by the WS. So this is more detailed portion and Guru ji will cover it in due course of time. In short, in VA it is said that planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are considered bad but in KAS we are saying that planets in 6th house are bad, planets in 8th house from own house is bad and 12th house is not conducive to the result of House B. On the contrary, 12th house is the most benefic house in the chart. If you go by symmetry of the chart, if 6th is the worst house then 12th will be the best. In VA, 8th house and 12th house has been fixed for all house along with 6th house. In KAS, we do not consider 8th and 12th house of the chart as Bad for all events. So for 1st house, if 1st lord is in 8th house then that is not good and if 1st lord is in 12th house then we are saying that it will enhance the result of the 1st house but the 6th house matters will suffer. That planet will not be able to give the result of House B = 6 as it will aspect 6th house from 12th house, so it will have enmity sight. In D charts, in KAS, planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are not considered auspicious. These things are all relating to quality, so It will be more confusing to talk about this on Timing and Events list. This email is ONLY for advanced students. Beginners please do not get confused with this email, just read it as "FYI". Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of ramesh mishraSaturday February 7, 2009 1:29 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ash Ji, I have one basic doubt. I do not remember whether I have read sometimes in archives or somewhere. The doubt is,"When LoB occupy house A then the status of house B is diminished. Is it correct ?" In this case the planet occupy 8th house from its own house. If it is with more than 4 bindus or if it is less than 4 bindus. I think if it is nore than 4 bindus the karkatwa of house B should enhance on the contrary the planet with less than 4 then in this case the karkatwa should be in danger. What is the correct answer ? For your perusal may I give you one female native chart.Her DOB is 17 Aug 1981, TOB is 17:11 and POB is Hanamkonda 18 N 3, 79 E 32 India. This lady does not have any child birth even after 2.5 years of her marriage. In this chart 7th lord Mo is in 2nd and 2nd lord Sa is in 9th, 11th lord Ma is in 6th house. Those are all in 8th place from their owning house. Mo and Ma has more bindus and Sa has less bindu. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Sat, 7/2/09, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote: Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kasRE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubtastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSaturday, 7 February, 2009, 10:26 AM Dear Prabha ji, No, please correct that then. Rasi and Navamsa have equal status. We check this relation in Rasi and Navamsa. If I might have made that mistake back then, then Guru ji would have corrected me and in future posts I would have mentioned that. That post was in 2003 and I had less clarity on KAS laws as compared to today. So please keep that in mind as well. Its good that you dug up this old post brought it up so it can be corrected. If Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in Rasi or Navamsa, they will cease to become NSD. Yes they can become SD functionally, but naturally they will not as 1:7 is of enmity. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of prabha.acharyaFriday February 6, 2009 11:02 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Respected Ash ji,In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following:"Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results.He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 innavamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only."Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remainas SD or do they cease to remain SD.ThanksPrabha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Dear Ramesh ji and other members, one thing must be kept in mind that each house gives result for so many things. for example 2nd house indicates wealth, speech, Kutumb, and so many things. Yes as this is 8th house from 7th so can indicate death of spouse. But in each and every chart only if 2nd house is having more points may not indicate only death of spouse. If other indications are presents then and then we sould find proper meaning. One thing is definite if a person respects his wife or husband, he may get good wealth and happyness in life in all fields. Same thing for mother and father. One thing: there is no remedy for mother's curse and wife's curse. krushna , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Respected Guru Ji, > Pranaam, > Many many thanks for quick response. > For break in marriage we say that 2nd house should be considered as B.Then karak of 2nd becomes the root karak of 7th house . > If the karaktwa of 2nd house is spoiled then automatically the quality of 7th will be affected. > Is this correct ? > Similarly we way consider the role of ROOT KARAK for any house. > Thanks and regards. > rcmastro > > --- On Mon, 9/2/09, krushana Jugal <krushana wrote: > > krushana Jugal <krushana > Re: A doubt > > Monday, 9 February, 2009, 2:29 PM > Dear Rameshji, > Instead of calling it as good longevity it should be called as good quality. Root karak and karak gives quality. If there is some problem with these karaks then quality is affected and may give delay. For marriage we see Venus (NK) and Jupiter (NRK). If these karaks are spoiled then along with reduced quality may give delay too. our laws regarding Venus and Jupiter are given in some lesson. Same way if malefic planets, sixth lord situated in these house also give similar result. If planet/s situated in 4th place from karak and/or Root karak with less points or sixth lord will also affect on the quality. > thanks > krushna > > > > > On 2/9/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote: > > > Thank you Guru Ji for explanation. Can you please tell us the role of ROOT KARAK. > Normally karak of a house gives the karkatwa of the house in focus.The karakatwa of a house depends upon the strength of its karak planet. > Root karak of a house is 3rd lord from the house in focus. 3rd house indicates the courage and also the ayursthaan of house in focus. > If 3rd lord from any house is strong means the house in focus has good longevity. > Is that correct Guru Ji ? > Regards and Pranaam. > Ramesh Mishra > rcmastro > > --- On Sun, 8/2/09, SPK <aquaris_rising@ > wrote: > > SPK <aquaris_rising@ > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > Sunday, 8 February, 2009, 11:01 PM Dear Guru Krushanji, > > Thank you for your explanation. > > Satish > > > > > > krushana Jugal <krushana (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > Sunday, February 8, 2009 11:02:08 AM > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt > > > > > > Dear Rameshji and other members, > 9 th lord is karak for 2nd house and is Root karak for 7th house. Now ninth lord in 2nd means lord of 9th house is enhanced, as it is in Upchay house. Root karak is also very important for marriage. As per kalpurush chart (natural chart) 9th lord is Jupiter. Hence Jupiter is natural Root karak for 7th house. So if 9th lord is situated in 2nd house quality of marital happiness is better. It can super shed some problems also. > > It might have been observed that for marriage " Guru bal " is seen. Transit of Guru (Jupiter) is also considered. This is nothing but part and partial of Astakvarg. > > Even in our system zero in ninth house is having more importance. This may delay in marriage, some cases may not give child. In case with other problems may give denial of marriage. > > Ash is away from his laptop, hence he may not answer for one week till 16th Feb. Today I had some spare time hence came her and answered. Still few more days I may not be able to take active participation. Please bear with me. > > Thanks > krushna > > > > On 2/8/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote: > > > Dear Satish Ji, > 9th house is judged for tather.If 9thlord goes to 2nd house means it goes to the karak house for 7th house and 7th house is judged for marriage.Hence by occupying 9thlord in karak sthaan of 7th house will indicate that father gives the acceptance of marriage to the native. > In other words we may say that father is giving blessings. > Hope I may be correct. > Thanks > Ramesh Mishra > rcmastro > > --- On Sun, 8/2/09, SPK <aquaris_rising@ > wrote: > > SPK <aquaris_rising@ > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > Sunday, 8 February, 2009, 6:59 PM Dear Ash, > > Why would 9th lord in 2nd house enhance the quality of 7th house. It would enhance the 9th house as 2nd is upachaya for 9th. Yes it would be in karaka house for 7th but would the points it has in 2nd house decide the quality? > > 2nd lord going to 9th will diminish 7th house as 2nd lord is karaka for 7th house going to 8th from itself is understood. > > Thanks > > Satish > > > > > > " Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca " <kas > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > Saturday, February 7, 2009 11:59:32 AM > > RE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt Dear Ramesh ji, > > These things are all for Quality. Yes, when a planet is in 8th from own house then, the karaktwa for the house it denotes reduces. Say in this case, 2nd lord is in 9th house, then results of 7th house are reduced. If 9th lord is in 2nd house then the result of 7th house is enhanced. So we are saying that the father/guru becomes the Karak for marriage and so that is a blessing. > > For timing of event, we are going by the WS. So this is more detailed portion and Guru ji will cover it in due course of time. In short, in VA it is said that planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are considered bad but in KAS we are saying that planets in 6th house are bad, planets in 8th house from own house is bad and 12th house is not conducive to the result of House B. On the contrary, 12th house is the most benefic house in the chart. If you go by symmetry of the chart, if 6th is the worst house then 12th will be the best. > > In VA, 8th house and 12th house has been fixed for all house along with 6th house. In KAS, we do not consider 8th and 12th house of the chart as Bad for all events. So for 1st house, if 1st lord is in 8th house then that is not good and if 1st lord is in 12th house then we are saying that it will enhance the result of the 1st house but the 6th house matters will suffer. That planet will not be able to give the result of House B = 6 as it will aspect 6th house from 12th house, so it will have enmity sight. > > In D charts, in KAS, planets in 6th, 8th and 12th house are not considered auspicious. > > These things are all relating to quality, so It will be more confusing to talk about this on Timing and Events list. This email is ONLY for advanced students. Beginners please do not get confused with this email, just read it as " FYI " . > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of ramesh mishra > Saturday February 7, 2009 1:29 AM > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > RE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt > > > Dear Ash Ji, > > I have one basic doubt. I do not remember whether I have read sometimes in archives or somewhere. > > The doubt is, " When LoB occupy house A then the status of house B is diminished. Is it correct ? " > > In this case the planet occupy 8th house from its own house. > > If it is with more than 4 bindus or if it is less than 4 bindus. > I think if it is nore than 4 bindus the karkatwa of house B should enhance on the contrary the planet with less than 4 then in this case the karkatwa should be in danger. > > What is the correct answer ? > > For your perusal may I give you one female native chart.Her DOB is 17 Aug 1981, TOB is 17:11 and POB is Hanamkonda 18 N 3, 79 E 32 India. > > This lady does not have any child birth even after 2.5 years of her marriage. > > In this chart 7th lord Mo is in 2nd and 2nd lord Sa is in 9th, 11th lord Ma is in 6th house. Those are all in 8th place from their owning house. > > Mo and Ma has more bindus and Sa has less bindu. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > rcmastro > > --- On Sat, 7/2/09, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote: > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas > RE: [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > Saturday, 7 February, 2009, 10:26 AM > > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > > No, please correct that then. Rasi and Navamsa have equal status. We check this relation in Rasi and Navamsa. If I might have made that mistake back then, then Guru ji would have corrected me and in future posts I would have mentioned that. That post was in 2003 and I had less clarity on KAS laws as compared to today. So please keep that in mind as well. > > Its good that you dug up this old post brought it up so it can be corrected. > > If Sa and Ve are in 1:7 in Rasi or Navamsa, they will cease to become NSD. Yes they can become SD functionally, but naturally they will not as 1:7 is of enmity. > > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of prabha.acharya > Friday February 6, 2009 11:02 PM > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > [astrologyandtiming events] A doubt > > > > > > Respected Ash ji, > In Message 5740, You have mentioned the following: > " Marriage happened in the right period. Shani can give results. > He in in 4:10 with Venus in Rasi. We do not need to consider 1:7 in > navamsa. This law is applicable to Rasi only. " > > Now will planets being SD but in D9 is posited in 1:7 position remain > as SD or do they cease to remain SD. > Thanks > Prabha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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