Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Group Members, First of all I like you to validate the following interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong? •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the 7th house form it. •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the house it resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house from it. •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of hard work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it aspects •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the benefits to the house it resides. •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides. •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with the things related to the house it resides. •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the house it aspects and gives results to the house it resides. My question is if the above statements are correct then based on the Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would change? I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to comprehend the interpretations based on on AV Thanks, Rakesh Mohan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Group Members, First of all I like you to validate the following interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong? •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the 7th house form it. •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the house it resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house from it. •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of hard work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it aspects •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the benefits to the house it resides. •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides. •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with the things related to the house it resides. •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the house it aspects and gives results to the house it resides. My question is if the above statements are correct then based on the Binna Ashtakavara system points system, how would the behavior of planets change, if the planet gets less than 4 points and gets more than 4 points? I am asking this question to the group because I am having difficulty to comprehend the interpretations based on on Ashtakavarga:) Thanks, Rakesh Mohan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Rakesh ji, I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets. How they will behave in different houses with their respective bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators etc are different than their individual properties for timing any event. Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we go for timing of event and not for quality. Similarly this can be applied to other planets. AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house. This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we can say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will be benefic. Please go through the lessons slowly. Regards Anup --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote: rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? Date: Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM Dear Group Members,First of all I like you to validate the following interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?•Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the 7th house form it. •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the house it resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i..e. 7th house from it.•Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of hard work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it aspects•Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the benefits to the house it resides. •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.•Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with the things related to the house it resides.•Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the house it aspects and gives results to the house it resides.My question is if the above statements are correct then based on the Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would change?I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to comprehend the interpretations based on on AV :)Thanks,Rakesh Mohan Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Anupji, Thanks for your reply. I have a question first before getting further in the discussion which I am ignorant because I am just a beginner of astrology. Is ashtakavarga system is exclusively used for timing events alone or also used to understand the nature of planets, benefic or malefic? If the above answer is both i.e for AV used for both timing of events and understand nature of planets; then I feel we should be able to draw conclusions explaining how the planets will behave to houses it aspects based on bindus it gets in AV system. Sorry to put forward my narrow view instead of going through lessons slowly; because the planets aspects interpretaions that I put below except Jupiter and Saturn (which I read on internet) are my own observations and I am excited to know with the help of group members if we can draw conclusions to AV system also. Thanks, Rakesh , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Rakesh ji, >  > I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through > the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets. > How they will behave in different houses with their respective > bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators etc > are different than their individual properties for timing any event. >  > Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is > powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume > that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does > not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we > go for timing of event and not for quality. >  > Similarly this can be applied to other planets. >  > AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house. > This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with > respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we can > say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will > be benefic. >  > Please go through the lessons slowly. >  >  > Regards > Anup >  >  >  >  > > --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote: > > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 > What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? > > Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM Dear Group Members, > First of all I like you to validate the following > interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong? > > •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the > things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the 7th > house form it. > •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the house it > resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house from > it. > •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of hard > work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it aspects > •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence > derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the benefits > to the house it resides. > •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives > benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides. > •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it > brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with the > things related to the house it resides. > •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the house it > aspects and gives results to the house it resides. > > My question is if the above statements are correct then based on the > Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less > than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would change? > > I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to > comprehend the interpretations based on on AV > > Thanks, > Rakesh Mohan > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear Anupji, Thanks for your reply. I thought Ashtakavara system is not only limited to the timing events but can help us to understand how planet behaves; so wanted to know how the inherent property of the planet changes based on the bindus it gets in AV system. Am I wrong? Also in my request I asked to validate the statements of planetary aspects behavior. Do you agree with the statements? Thanks, Rakesh , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Rakesh ji, >  > I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through > the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets. > How they will behave in different houses with their respective > bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators etc > are different than their individual properties for timing any event. >  > Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is > powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume > that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does > not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we > go for timing of event and not for quality. >  > Similarly this can be applied to other planets. >  > AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house. > This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with > respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we can > say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will > be benefic. >  > Please go through the lessons slowly. >  >  > Regards > Anup >  >  >  >  > > --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote: > > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 > What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? > > Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM Dear Group Members, > First of all I like you to validate the following > interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong? > > •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the > things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the 7th > house form it. > •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the house it > resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house from > it. > •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of hard > work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it aspects > •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence > derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the benefits > to the house it resides. > •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives > benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides. > •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it > brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with the > things related to the house it resides. > •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the house it > aspects and gives results to the house it resides. > > My question is if the above statements are correct then based on the > Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less > than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would change? > > I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to > comprehend the interpretations based on on AV > > Thanks, > Rakesh Mohan > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Thanks , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Rakesh ji, >  > I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through > the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets. > How they will behave in different houses with their respective > bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators etc > are different than their individual properties for timing any event. >  > Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is > powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume > that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does > not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we > go for timing of event and not for quality. >  > Similarly this can be applied to other planets. >  > AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house. > This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with > respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we can > say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will > be benefic. >  > Please go through the lessons slowly. >  >  > Regards > Anup >  >  >  >  > > --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote: > > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 > What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? > > Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM Dear Group Members, > First of all I like you to validate the following > interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong? > > •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the > things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the 7th > house form it. > •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the house it > resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house from > it. > •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of hard > work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it aspects > •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence > derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the benefits > to the house it resides. > •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives > benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides. > •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it > brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with the > things related to the house it resides. > •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the house it > aspects and gives results to the house it resides. > > My question is if the above statements are correct then based on the > Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less > than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would change? > > I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to > comprehend the interpretations based on on AV > > Thanks, > Rakesh Mohan > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear Rakesh ji, Here we are meant for timing of event.But if you go deep you will realize that quality is equally can be assesed from this system.I am not mentioning here how this all is caluclated instead it will be better to clear all your previous concepts in your mind which you might be having about vedic astrology. As Guruji suggest,keep your slate clean before venturing into KAS. Aspects of the planets is primarily considered while calculating their strength for each house.Jupitor is assumed benefic becuase generally this has more than 4 AV bindus and Saturn has less than 4 bindus,so it is malefic for a given house. For detail please refer to lesson 2 and then lesson 26. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 17/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote: rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 Re: What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? Date: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 11:28 AM Dear Anupji,Thanks for your reply. I have a question first before getting further in the discussion which I am ignorant because I am just a beginner of astrology. Is ashtakavarga system is exclusively used for timing events alone or also used to understand the nature of planets, benefic or malefic? If the above answer is both i.e for AV used for both timing of events and understand nature of planets; then I feel we should be able to draw conclusions explaining how the planets will behave to houses it aspects based on bindus it gets in AV system. Sorry to put forward my narrow view instead of going through lessons slowly; because the planets aspects interpretaions that I put below except Jupiter and Saturn (which I read on internet) are my own observations and I am excited to know with the help of group members if we can draw conclusions to AV system also.Thanks,Rakeshastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Rakesh ji,>  > I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through> the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets.> How they will behave in different houses with their respective > bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators etc> are different than their individual properties for timing any event.>  > Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is> powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume> that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does > not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we > go for timing of event and not for quality.>  > Similarly this can be applied to other planets.>  > AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house.> This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with> respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we can> say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will> be benefic.>  > Please go through the lessons slowly.>  >  > Regards> Anup>  >  >  >  > > --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...> wrote:> > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...>> [astrologyandtiming events] What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV?> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM> > > > > > > Dear Group Members,> First of all I like you to validate the following > interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?> > •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the > things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the 7th > house form it. > •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the house it > resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house from > it.> •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of hard > work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it aspects> •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence > derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the benefits > to the house it resides.. > •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives > benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.> •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it > brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with the > things related to the house it resides.> •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the house it > aspects and gives results to the house it resides.> > My question is if the above statements are correct then based on the > Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less > than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would change?> > I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to > comprehend the interpretations based on on AV > > Thanks,> Rakesh Mohan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Thanks Anupji again for your reply. You are right it's always good to study any new concept with clear mind and do not relate other concepts to it because it will become like kichidi and often become stumbling blocks in learning the new concept. But I feel that there is a place for everything and that's the reason if other concepts are discussed here, it would be wiser to just put a line or two explaination where the other concepts stands and not going further; doing that KAS study wil be respected more. I thought my question was appropriate because in KAS where we study the timing of events, which helps us to find the reason for an event. But it doesn't explain how does the quality of event effects the subjective person. This later part is left to the person to reason if it's good or bad. I thought if the quality of event is also discussed prior to experience then the realization of event will be appreciated. What do you say? With good Regards, Rakesh , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Rakesh ji, >  > Here we are meant for timing of event.But if you go deep you > will realize that quality is equally can be assesed from this > system.I am not mentioning here how this all is caluclated > instead it will be better to clear all your previous concepts in > your mind which you might be having about vedic astrology. >  > As Guruji suggest,keep your slate clean before venturing into KAS.. >  > Aspects of the planets is primarily considered while calculating > their strength for each house.Jupitor is assumed benefic > becuase generally this has more than 4 AV bindus and Saturn has > less than 4 bindus,so it is malefic for a given house. >  > For detail please refer to lesson 2 and then lesson 26. >  > Regards > Anup >  >  > > > --- On Tue, 17/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote: > > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 > Re: What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? > > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 11:28 AM Dear Anupji, > Thanks for your reply. I have a question first before > getting further in the discussion which I am ignorant because I am > just a beginner of astrology. Is ashtakavarga system is exclusively > used for timing events alone or also used to understand the nature of > planets, benefic or malefic? > > If the above answer is both i.e for AV used for both timing of events > and understand nature of planets; then I feel we should be able to > draw conclusions explaining how the planets will behave to houses it > aspects based on bindus it gets in AV system. > > Sorry to put forward my narrow view instead of going through lessons > slowly; because the planets aspects interpretaions that I put below > except Jupiter and Saturn (which I read on internet) are my own > observations and I am excited to know with the help of group members > if we can draw conclusions to AV system also. > > Thanks, > Rakesh > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " > <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rakesh ji, > >  > > I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through > > the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets. > > How they will behave in different houses with their respective > > bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators > etc > > are different than their individual properties for timing any event. > >  > > Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is > > powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume > > that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does > > not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we > > go for timing of event and not for quality. > >  > > Similarly this can be applied to other planets. > >  > > AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house.. > > This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with > > respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we > can > > say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will > > be benefic. > >  > > Please go through the lessons slowly. > >  > >  > > Regards > > Anup > >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...> wrote: > > > > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...> > > [astrologyandtiming events] What are the interpretations of > the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Members, > > First of all I like you to validate the following > > interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong? > > > > •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the > > things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the > 7th > > house form it. > > •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the > house it > > resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house > from > > it. > > •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of > hard > > work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it > aspects > > •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence > > derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the > benefits > > to the house it resides. > > •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives > > benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides. > > •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it > > brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with > the > > things related to the house it resides. > > •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the > house it > > aspects and gives results to the house it resides. > > > > My question is if the above statements are correct then based on > the > > Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less > > than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would > change? > > > > I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to > > comprehend the interpretations based on on AV > > > > Thanks, > > Rakesh Mohan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to > http://in.messenger ./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear Rakesh ji, Now in brief, i shall write we start from quality which control the event whether delayed or denied. That part you can read in lessons. If you can understand think that way keeping in mind the primary and secondary upachyasthan.As i wrote A B C houses are primary and D and E are secondary upachyasthan. The reason for an event is nothing but karaka for a given house B. Here we specify it as house A and its lord is called karaka. House A controls the status/health of house B and linked to house C. If Lord of house A or house A is spoiled,the event related to house B might delay or may never happen under some conditions. So we start from house A->B->C->D->E But you are still not saying anything from the lessons yet Regards Anup --- On Tue, 17/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote: rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 Re: What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? Date: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 10:24 PM Thanks Anupji again for your reply.You are right it's always good to study any new concept with clear mind and do not relate other concepts to it because it will become like kichidi and often become stumbling blocks in learning the new concept. But I feel that there is a place for everything and that's the reason if other concepts are discussed here, it would be wiser to just put a line or two explaination where the other concepts stands and not going further; doing that KAS study wil be respected more.I thought my question was appropriate because in KAS where we study the timing of events, which helps us to find the reason for an event. But it doesn't explain how does the quality of event effects the subjective person. This later part is left to the person to reason if it's good or bad. I thought if the quality of event is also discussed prior to experience then the realization of event will be appreciated. What do you say? :)With good Regards,Rakeshastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Rakesh ji,>  > Here we are meant for timing of event..But if you go deep you> will realize that quality is equally can be assesed from this> system.I am not mentioning here how this all is caluclated> instead it will be better to clear all your previous concepts in > your mind which you might be having about vedic astrology.>  > As Guruji suggest,keep your slate clean before venturing into KAS.. >  > Aspects of the planets is primarily considered while calculating> their strength for each house.Jupitor is assumed benefic> becuase generally this has more than 4 AV bindus and Saturn has> less than 4 bindus,so it is malefic for a given house.>  > For detail please refer to lesson 2 and then lesson 26.>  > Regards> Anup>  >  > > > --- On Tue, 17/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...> wrote:> > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ....>> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV?> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 11:28 AM> > > > > > > Dear Anupji,> Thanks for your reply. I have a question first before > getting further in the discussion which I am ignorant because I am > just a beginner of astrology. Is ashtakavarga system is exclusively > used for timing events alone or also used to understand the nature of > planets, benefic or malefic? > > If the above answer is both i.e for AV used for both timing of events > and understand nature of planets; then I feel we should be able to > draw conclusions explaining how the planets will behave to houses it > aspects based on bindus it gets in AV system. > > Sorry to put forward my narrow view instead of going through lessons > slowly; because the planets aspects interpretaions that I put below > except Jupiter and Saturn (which I read on internet) are my own > observations and I am excited to know with the help of group members > if we can draw conclusions to AV system also.> > Thanks,> Rakesh> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" > <dalh_1@> wrote:> >> > Dear Rakesh ji,> >  > > I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through> > the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets.> > How they will behave in different houses with their respective > > bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators > etc> > are different than their individual properties for timing any event.> >  > > Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is> > powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume> > that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does > > not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we > > go for timing of event and not for quality.> >  > > Similarly this can be applied to other planets.> >  > > AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house..> > This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with> > respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we > can> > say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will> > be benefic..> >  > > Please go through the lessons slowly.> >  > >  > > Regards> > Anup> >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...> wrote:> > > > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...>> > [astrologyandtiming events] What are the interpretations of > the planetary aspects behavior based on AV?> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Members,> > First of all I like you to validate the following > > interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?> > > > •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the > > things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the > 7th > > house form it. > > •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the > house it > > resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house > from > > it.> > •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of > hard > > work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it > aspects> > •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence > > derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the > benefits > > to the house it resides. > > •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives > > benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.> > •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it > > brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with > the > > things related to the house it resides.> > •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the > house it > > aspects and gives results to the house it resides.> > > > My question is if the above statements are correct then based on > the > > Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less > > than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would > change?> > > > I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to > > comprehend the interpretations based on on AV > > > > Thanks,> > Rakesh Mohan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! 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Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Rakesh Mohan ji, KAS is very detailed. It will take time and patience to understand the depth of KAS. Study with a clean slate as Anup ji and Guru ji have advised. You are mixing all things i.e. Quality, Quantum and Timing of event. Karak and Mool Karak (Root Karak) determine the quality of an event and we use Ashtakavarga and the WS to find the power of planet which aid us in selecting the proper significator that would furnish the event. That is the essence of it. Also, its given on the introductory page that one must be adept in VA before they come to study KAS. KAS portion that is taught addresses the TIMING OF EVENT portion which is unclear in VA. All the principles used here are VA only. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of rakeshmohan888 Tuesday February 17, 2009 11:54 AM To: Subject: Re: What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? Thanks Anupji again for your reply. You are right it's always good to study any new concept with clear mind and do not relate other concepts to it because it will become like kichidi and often become stumbling blocks in learning the new concept. But I feel that there is a place for everything and that's the reason if other concepts are discussed here, it would be wiser to just put a line or two explaination where the other concepts stands and not going further; doing that KAS study wil be respected more. I thought my question was appropriate because in KAS where we study the timing of events, which helps us to find the reason for an event. But it doesn't explain how does the quality of event effects the subjective person. This later part is left to the person to reason if it's good or bad. I thought if the quality of event is also discussed prior to experience then the realization of event will be appreciated. What do you say? With good Regards, Rakesh , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Rakesh ji, >  > Here we are meant for timing of event.But if you go deep you > will realize that quality is equally can be assesed from this > system.I am not mentioning here how this all is caluclated > instead it will be better to clear all your previous concepts in > your mind which you might be having about vedic astrology. >  > As Guruji suggest,keep your slate clean before venturing into KAS.. >  > Aspects of the planets is primarily considered while calculating > their strength for each house.Jupitor is assumed benefic > becuase generally this has more than 4 AV bindus and Saturn has > less than 4 bindus,so it is malefic for a given house. >  > For detail please refer to lesson 2 and then lesson 26. >  > Regards > Anup >  >  > > > --- On Tue, 17/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote: > > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 > Re: What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? > > Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 11:28 AM > > > > > > > Dear Anupji, > Thanks for your reply. I have a question first before > getting further in the discussion which I am ignorant because I am > just a beginner of astrology. Is ashtakavarga system is exclusively > used for timing events alone or also used to understand the nature of > planets, benefic or malefic? > > If the above answer is both i.e for AV used for both timing of events > and understand nature of planets; then I feel we should be able to > draw conclusions explaining how the planets will behave to houses it > aspects based on bindus it gets in AV system. > > Sorry to put forward my narrow view instead of going through lessons > slowly; because the planets aspects interpretaions that I put below > except Jupiter and Saturn (which I read on internet) are my own > observations and I am excited to know with the help of group members > if we can draw conclusions to AV system also. > > Thanks, > Rakesh > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " > <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rakesh ji, > >  > > I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through > > the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets. > > How they will behave in different houses with their respective > > bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators > etc > > are different than their individual properties for timing any event. > >  > > Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is > > powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume > > that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does > > not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we > > go for timing of event and not for quality. > >  > > Similarly this can be applied to other planets. > >  > > AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house.. > > This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with > > respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we > can > > say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will > > be benefic. > >  > > Please go through the lessons slowly. > >  > >  > > Regards > > Anup > >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...> wrote: > > > > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...> > > [astrologyandtiming events] What are the interpretations of > the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Members, > > First of all I like you to validate the following > > interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong? > > > > •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the > > things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the > 7th > > house form it. > > •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the > house it > > resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house > from > > it. > > •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of > hard > > work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it > aspects > > •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence > > derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the > benefits > > to the house it resides. > > •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives > > benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides. > > •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it > > brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with > the > > things related to the house it resides. > > •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the > house it > > aspects and gives results to the house it resides. > > > > My question is if the above statements are correct then based on > the > > Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less > > than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would > change? > > > > I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to > > comprehend the interpretations based on on AV > > > > Thanks, > > Rakesh Mohan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! 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Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Dear Rakesh ji, Look up the mail on Karak and Karaktwa. All this has been explained. First thing why is Sun the karak for authority and Mars the karak for SELF and individuality, Mo is karak for fortune and Shani is karak for .......... No where in VA this is given, only Guru ji has given this in conference and taught on this list. Start from there, that way you can understand the reason behind the details that are given in standard texts. Things have got garbled over time. KAS will help give clarity and depth in understanding and rectifying with concrete reasoning. Then progress from Natural Karak to Functional Karak and once u grasp that, then understand mool karak. With Karak both NK and FK and Mool Karak you can ascertain the quality of the event. Timing of event procedure is different and that you can get from the lessons. This is not given clearly in standard texts. Some of the things given by you are incorrect. You can correct that from reading some posts on what I have told above from the archives. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of rakeshmohan888 Monday February 16, 2009 6:35 PM To: Re: What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? Dear Group Members, First of all I like you to validate the following interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong? •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the 7th house form it. •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the house it resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house from it. •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of hard work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it aspects •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the benefits to the house it resides. •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides. •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with the things related to the house it resides. •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the house it aspects and gives results to the house it resides. My question is if the above statements are correct then based on the Binna Ashtakavara system points system, how would the behavior of planets change, if the planet gets less than 4 points and gets more than 4 points? I am asking this question to the group because I am having difficulty to comprehend the interpretations based on on Ashtakavarga:) Thanks, Rakesh Mohan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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