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Dear Group Members,

First of all I like you to validate the following

interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?

 

•Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the

things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the 7th

house form it.

•Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the house it

resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house from

it.

•Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of hard

work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it aspects

•Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence

derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the benefits

to the house it resides.

•Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives

benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.

•Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it

brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with the

things related to the house it resides.

•Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the house it

aspects and gives results to the house it resides.

 

My question is if the above statements are correct then based on the

Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less

than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would change?

 

I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to

comprehend the interpretations based on on AV :)

 

Thanks,

Rakesh Mohan

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Dear Group Members,

First of all I like you to validate the following

interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?

 

•Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the

things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the 7th

house form it.

•Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the house it

resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house from

it.

•Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of hard

work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it aspects

•Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence

derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the benefits

to the house it resides.

•Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives

benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.

•Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it

brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with the

things related to the house it resides.

•Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the house it

aspects and gives results to the house it resides.

 

My question is if the above statements are correct then based on the

Binna Ashtakavara system points system, how would the behavior of

planets change, if the planet gets less than 4 points and gets more

than 4 points?

 

I am asking this question to the group because I am having difficulty

to comprehend the interpretations based on on Ashtakavarga:)

 

Thanks,

Rakesh Mohan

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Dear Rakesh ji,

 

I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through

the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets.

How they will behave in different houses with their respective

bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators etc

are different than their individual properties for timing any event.

 

Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is

powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume

that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does

not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we

go for timing of event and not for quality.

 

Similarly this can be applied to other planets.

 

AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house.

This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with

respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we can

say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will

be benefic.

 

Please go through the lessons slowly.

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote:

rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? Date: Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM

 

 

Dear Group Members,First of all I like you to validate the following interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?•Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the 7th house form it. •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the house it resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i..e. 7th house from it.•Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of hard work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it aspects•Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the benefits to the house it resides. •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.•Venus governs the ability to attract

others to make deals, so it brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with the things related to the house it resides.•Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the house it aspects and gives results to the house it resides.My question is if the above statements are correct then based on the Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would change?I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to comprehend the interpretations based on on AV :)Thanks,Rakesh Mohan

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Dear Anupji,

Thanks for your reply. I have a question first before

getting further in the discussion which I am ignorant because I am

just a beginner of astrology. Is ashtakavarga system is exclusively

used for timing events alone or also used to understand the nature of

planets, benefic or malefic?

 

If the above answer is both i.e for AV used for both timing of events

and understand nature of planets; then I feel we should be able to

draw conclusions explaining how the planets will behave to houses it

aspects based on bindus it gets in AV system.

 

Sorry to put forward my narrow view instead of going through lessons

slowly; because the planets aspects interpretaions that I put below

except Jupiter and Saturn (which I read on internet) are my own

observations and I am excited to know with the help of group members

if we can draw conclusions to AV system also.

 

Thanks,

Rakesh

 

 

 

 

 

, " Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Rakesh ji,

>  

> I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through

> the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets.

> How they will behave in different houses with their respective

> bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators

etc

> are different than their individual properties for timing any event.

>  

> Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is

> powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume

> that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does

> not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we

> go for timing of event and not for quality.

>  

> Similarly this can be applied to other planets.

>  

> AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house.

> This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with

> respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we

can

> say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will

> be benefic.

>  

> Please go through the lessons slowly.

>  

>  

> Regards

> Anup

>  

>  

>  

>  

>

> --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote:

>

> rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888

> What are the interpretations of

the planetary aspects behavior based on AV?

>

> Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM

Dear Group Members,

> First of all I like you to validate the following

> interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?

>

> •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the

> things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the

7th

> house form it.

> •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the

house it

> resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house

from

> it.

> •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of

hard

> work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it

aspects

> •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence

> derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the

benefits

> to the house it resides.

> •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives

> benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.

> •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it

> brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with

the

> things related to the house it resides.

> •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the

house it

> aspects and gives results to the house it resides.

>

> My question is if the above statements are correct then based on

the

> Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less

> than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would

change?

>

> I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to

> comprehend the interpretations based on on AV :)

>

> Thanks,

> Rakesh Mohan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Anupji,

Thanks for your reply. I thought Ashtakavara system is

not only limited to the timing events but can help us to understand

how planet behaves; so wanted to know how the inherent property of

the planet changes based on the bindus it gets in AV system. Am I

wrong?

 

Also in my request I asked to validate the statements of planetary

aspects behavior. Do you agree with the statements?

 

Thanks,

Rakesh

 

, " Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Rakesh ji,

>  

> I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through

> the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets.

> How they will behave in different houses with their respective

> bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators

etc

> are different than their individual properties for timing any event.

>  

> Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is

> powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume

> that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does

> not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we

> go for timing of event and not for quality.

>  

> Similarly this can be applied to other planets.

>  

> AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house.

> This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with

> respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we

can

> say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will

> be benefic.

>  

> Please go through the lessons slowly.

>  

>  

> Regards

> Anup

>  

>  

>  

>  

>

> --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote:

>

> rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888

> What are the interpretations of

the planetary aspects behavior based on AV?

>

> Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM

Dear Group Members,

> First of all I like you to validate the following

> interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?

>

> •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the

> things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the

7th

> house form it.

> •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the

house it

> resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house

from

> it.

> •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of

hard

> work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it

aspects

> •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence

> derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the

benefits

> to the house it resides.

> •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives

> benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.

> •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it

> brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with

the

> things related to the house it resides.

> •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the

house it

> aspects and gives results to the house it resides.

>

> My question is if the above statements are correct then based on

the

> Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less

> than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would

change?

>

> I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to

> comprehend the interpretations based on on AV :)

>

> Thanks,

> Rakesh Mohan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks

 

, " Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Rakesh ji,

>  

> I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through

> the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets.

> How they will behave in different houses with their respective

> bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators

etc

> are different than their individual properties for timing any event.

>  

> Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is

> powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume

> that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does

> not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we

> go for timing of event and not for quality.

>  

> Similarly this can be applied to other planets.

>  

> AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house.

> This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with

> respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we

can

> say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will

> be benefic.

>  

> Please go through the lessons slowly.

>  

>  

> Regards

> Anup

>  

>  

>  

>  

>

> --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote:

>

> rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888

> What are the interpretations of

the planetary aspects behavior based on AV?

>

> Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM

Dear Group Members,

> First of all I like you to validate the following

> interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?

>

> •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the

> things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the

7th

> house form it.

> •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the

house it

> resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house

from

> it.

> •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of

hard

> work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it

aspects

> •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence

> derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the

benefits

> to the house it resides.

> •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives

> benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.

> •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it

> brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with

the

> things related to the house it resides.

> •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the

house it

> aspects and gives results to the house it resides.

>

> My question is if the above statements are correct then based on

the

> Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less

> than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would

change?

>

> I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to

> comprehend the interpretations based on on AV :)

>

> Thanks,

> Rakesh Mohan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Rakesh ji,

 

Here we are meant for timing of event.But if you go deep you

will realize that quality is equally can be assesed from this

system.I am not mentioning here how this all is caluclated

instead it will be better to clear all your previous concepts in

your mind which you might be having about vedic astrology.

 

As Guruji suggest,keep your slate clean before venturing into KAS.

 

Aspects of the planets is primarily considered while calculating

their strength for each house.Jupitor is assumed benefic

becuase generally this has more than 4 AV bindus and Saturn has

less than 4 bindus,so it is malefic for a given house.

 

For detail please refer to lesson 2 and then lesson 26.

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

--- On Tue, 17/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote:

rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 Re: What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? Date: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 11:28 AM

 

 

Dear Anupji,Thanks for your reply. I have a question first before getting further in the discussion which I am ignorant because I am just a beginner of astrology. Is ashtakavarga system is exclusively used for timing events alone or also used to understand the nature of planets, benefic or malefic? If the above answer is both i.e for AV used for both timing of events and understand nature of planets; then I feel we should be able to draw conclusions explaining how the planets will behave to houses it aspects based on bindus it gets in AV system. Sorry to put forward my narrow view instead of going through lessons slowly; because the planets aspects interpretaions that I put below except Jupiter and Saturn (which I read on internet) are my own observations and I am excited to know with the help of group members if we can draw conclusions to AV system

also.Thanks,Rakeshastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Rakesh ji,>  > I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through> the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets.> How they will behave in different houses with their respective > bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators etc> are different than their individual properties for timing any event.>  > Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is> powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume> that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does > not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn

nature.Here we > go for timing of event and not for quality.>  > Similarly this can be applied to other planets.>  > AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house.> This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with> respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we can> say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will> be benefic.>  > Please go through the lessons slowly.>  >  > Regards> Anup>  >  >  >  > > --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...> wrote:> > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...>> [astrologyandtiming events] What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects

behavior based on AV?> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM> > > > > > > Dear Group Members,> First of all I like you to validate the following > interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?> > •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the > things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the 7th > house form it. > •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the house it > resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house from > it.> •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of hard > work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it

aspects> •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence > derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the benefits > to the house it resides.. > •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives > benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.> •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it > brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with the > things related to the house it resides.> •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the house it > aspects and gives results to the house it resides.> > My question is if the above statements are correct then based on the > Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less > than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would

change?> > I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to > comprehend the interpretations based on on AV :)> > Thanks,> Rakesh Mohan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger ./>

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Thanks Anupji again for your reply.

 

You are right it's always good to study any new concept with clear

mind and do not relate other concepts to it because it will become

like kichidi and often become stumbling blocks in learning the new

concept. But I feel that there is a place for everything and that's

the reason if other concepts are discussed here, it would be wiser to

just put a line or two explaination where the other concepts stands

and not going further; doing that KAS study wil be respected more.

 

I thought my question was appropriate because in KAS where we study

the timing of events, which helps us to find the reason for an event.

But it doesn't explain how does the quality of event effects the

subjective person. This later part is left to the person to reason if

it's good or bad. I thought if the quality of event is also

discussed prior to experience then the realization of event will be

appreciated. What do you say? :)

 

With good Regards,

Rakesh

 

 

 

 

, " Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Rakesh ji,

>  

> Here we are meant for timing of event.But if you go deep you

> will realize that quality is equally can be assesed from this

> system.I am not mentioning here how this all is caluclated

> instead it will be better to clear all your previous concepts in

> your mind which you might be having about vedic astrology.

>  

> As Guruji suggest,keep your slate clean before venturing

into KAS.. 

>  

> Aspects of the planets is primarily considered while calculating

> their  strength for each house.Jupitor is assumed benefic

> becuase generally this has more than 4 AV bindus and Saturn has

> less than 4 bindus,so it is malefic for a given house.

>  

> For detail please refer to lesson 2 and then lesson 26.

>  

> Regards

> Anup

>  

>  

>

>

> --- On Tue, 17/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote:

>

> rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888

> Re: What are the

interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV?

>

> Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 11:28 AM

Dear Anupji,

> Thanks for your reply. I have a question first before

> getting further in the discussion which I am ignorant because I am

> just a beginner of astrology. Is ashtakavarga system is exclusively

> used for timing events alone or also used to understand the nature

of

> planets, benefic or malefic?

>

> If the above answer is both i.e for AV used for both timing of

events

> and understand nature of planets; then I feel we should be able to

> draw conclusions explaining how the planets will behave to houses

it

> aspects based on bindus it gets in AV system.

>

> Sorry to put forward my narrow view instead of going through

lessons

> slowly; because the planets aspects interpretaions that I put below

> except Jupiter and Saturn (which I read on internet) are my own

> observations and I am excited to know with the help of group

members

> if we can draw conclusions to AV system also.

>

> Thanks,

> Rakesh

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M "

> <dalh_1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rakesh ji,

> >  

> > I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through

> > the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the

planets.

> > How they will behave in different houses with their respective

> > bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as

significators

> etc

> > are different than their individual properties for timing any

event.

> >  

> > Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is

> > powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume

> > that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does

> > not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we

> > go for timing of event and not for quality.

> >  

> > Similarly this can be applied to other planets.

> >  

> > AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a

house..

> > This helps us to find its overall strength in all the

houses with

> > respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so

we

> can

> > say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect

will

> > be benefic.

> >  

> > Please go through the lessons slowly.

> >  

> >  

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >  

> >  

> >  

> >  

> >

> > --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...>

> > [astrologyandtiming events] What are the interpretations

of

> the planetary aspects behavior based on AV?

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Group Members,

> > First of all I like you to validate the following

> > interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?

> >

> > •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to

achieve the

> > things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the

> 7th

> > house form it.

> > •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to

the

> house it

> > resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house

> from

> > it.

> > •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot

of

> hard

> > work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it

> aspects

> > •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the

intelligence

> > derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the

> benefits

> > to the house it resides.

> > •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general

gives

> > benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.

> > •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals,

so it

> > brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with

> the

> > things related to the house it resides.

> > •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from

the

> house it

> > aspects and gives results to the house it resides.

> >

> > My question is if the above statements are correct then based on

> the

> > Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets

less

> > than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would

> change?

> >

> > I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to

> > comprehend the interpretations based on on AV :)

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Rakesh Mohan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Rakesh ji,

 

Now in brief, i shall write we start from quality which control the

event whether delayed or denied.

 

That part you can read in lessons.

If you can understand think that way keeping in mind the primary

and secondary upachyasthan.As i wrote A B C houses are primary

and D and E are secondary upachyasthan.

 

The reason for an event is nothing but karaka for a given house B.

Here we specify it as house A and its lord is called karaka.

 

House A controls the status/health of house B and linked to house C.

If Lord of house A or house A is spoiled,the event related to

house B might delay or may never happen under some conditions.

 

So we start from house A->B->C->D->E

 

But you are still not saying anything from the lessons yet

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 Re: What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV? Date: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 10:24 PM

 

 

Thanks Anupji again for your reply.You are right it's always good to study any new concept with clear mind and do not relate other concepts to it because it will become like kichidi and often become stumbling blocks in learning the new concept. But I feel that there is a place for everything and that's the reason if other concepts are discussed here, it would be wiser to just put a line or two explaination where the other concepts stands and not going further; doing that KAS study wil be respected more.I thought my question was appropriate because in KAS where we study the timing of events, which helps us to find the reason for an event. But it doesn't explain how does the quality of event effects the subjective person. This later part is left to the person to reason if it's good or bad. I thought if the quality of event is also discussed prior to experience then the realization of event

will be appreciated. What do you say? :)With good Regards,Rakeshastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Rakesh ji,>  > Here we are meant for timing of event..But if you go deep you> will realize that quality is equally can be assesed from this> system.I am not mentioning here how this all is caluclated> instead it will be better to clear all your previous concepts in > your mind which you might be having about vedic astrology.>  > As Guruji suggest,keep your slate clean before venturing into KAS.. >  > Aspects of the planets is primarily considered while calculating> their strength for each

house.Jupitor is assumed benefic> becuase generally this has more than 4 AV bindus and Saturn has> less than 4 bindus,so it is malefic for a given house.>  > For detail please refer to lesson 2 and then lesson 26.>  > Regards> Anup>  >  > > > --- On Tue, 17/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...> wrote:> > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ....>> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV?> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 11:28 AM> > > > > > > Dear Anupji,> Thanks for your reply. I have a question first

before > getting further in the discussion which I am ignorant because I am > just a beginner of astrology. Is ashtakavarga system is exclusively > used for timing events alone or also used to understand the nature of > planets, benefic or malefic? > > If the above answer is both i.e for AV used for both timing of events > and understand nature of planets; then I feel we should be able to > draw conclusions explaining how the planets will behave to houses it > aspects based on bindus it gets in AV system. > > Sorry to put forward my narrow view instead of going through lessons > slowly; because the planets aspects interpretaions that I put below > except Jupiter and Saturn (which I read on internet) are my own > observations and I am excited to know with the help of group members > if we can draw conclusions to AV system

also.> > Thanks,> Rakesh> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" > <dalh_1@> wrote:> >> > Dear Rakesh ji,> >  > > I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through> > the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the planets.> > How they will behave in different houses with their respective > > bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as significators > etc> > are different than their individual properties for timing any event.> >  > > Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is> > powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we can assume> > that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does > > not imply that

this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we > > go for timing of event and not for quality.> >  > > Similarly this can be applied to other planets.> >  > > AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a house..> > This helps us to find its overall strength in all the houses with> > respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so we > can> > say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect will> > be benefic..> >  > > Please go through the lessons slowly.> >  > >  > > Regards> > Anup> >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > --- On Mon,

16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...> wrote:> > > > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...>> > [astrologyandtiming events] What are the interpretations of > the planetary aspects behavior based on AV?> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group Members,> > First of all I like you to validate the following > > interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?> > > > •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the > > things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the > 7th > > house form it. > > •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the

> house it > > resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house > from > > it.> > •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of > hard > > work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it > aspects> > •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence > > derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the > benefits > > to the house it resides. > > •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives > > benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.> > •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it > > brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with > the > > things related to the house

it resides.> > •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the > house it > > aspects and gives results to the house it resides.> > > > My question is if the above statements are correct then based on > the > > Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets less > > than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would > change?> > > > I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to > > comprehend the interpretations based on on AV :)> > > > Thanks,> > Rakesh Mohan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new

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Dear

Rakesh Mohan ji,

 

KAS

is very detailed.  It will take time and

patience to understand the depth of KAS. 

Study with a clean slate as Anup ji and Guru ji have advised.

 

You

are mixing all things i.e. Quality, Quantum and Timing of event. 

 

Karak

and Mool Karak (Root Karak) determine the quality of

an event and we use Ashtakavarga and the WS to find the power of planet which

aid us in selecting the proper significator that

would furnish the event.

 

That

is the essence of it.

 

Also,

its given on the introductory page that one must be adept in VA before they

come to study KAS.  KAS portion that is

taught addresses the TIMING OF EVENT portion which is unclear in VA.  All the principles used here are VA only.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of rakeshmohan888

Tuesday February 17, 2009

11:54 AM

To:

 

Subject:

Re: What are the interpretations of the planetary

aspects behavior based on AV?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks Anupji again for your reply.

 

You are right it's always good to study any new concept with clear

mind and do not relate other concepts to it because it will become

like kichidi and often become stumbling blocks in learning the new

concept. But I feel that there is a place for everything and that's

the reason if other concepts are discussed here, it would be wiser to

just put a line or two explaination where the other concepts stands

and not going further; doing that KAS study wil be respected more.

 

I thought my question was appropriate because in KAS where we study

the timing of events, which helps us to find the reason for an event.

But it doesn't explain how does the quality of event effects the

subjective person. This later part is left to the person to reason if

it's good or bad. I thought if the quality of event is also

discussed prior to experience then the realization of event will be

appreciated. What do you say? :)

 

With good Regards,

Rakesh

 

,

" Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Rakesh ji,

> Â

> Here we are meant for timing of event.But if you go deep you

> will realize that quality is equally can be assesed from this

> system.I am not mentioning here how this all is caluclated

> instead it will be better to clear all your previous concepts in

> your mind which you might be having about vedic

astrology.

> Â

> As Guruji suggest,keep your slate clean before venturing

into KAS..Â

> Â

> Aspects of the planets is primarily considered while calculating

> their strength for each house.Jupitor is assumed benefic

> becuase generally this has more than 4 AV bindus and Saturn has

> less than 4 bindus,so it is malefic for a given house.

> Â

> For detail please refer to lesson 2 and then lesson 26.

> Â

> Regards

> Anup

> Â

> Â

>

>

> --- On Tue, 17/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888 wrote:

>

> rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888

> Re: What are the

interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV?

>

> Tuesday, 17 February, 2009, 11:28 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Anupji,

> Thanks for your reply. I have a question first before

> getting further in the discussion which I am ignorant because I am

> just a beginner of astrology. Is ashtakavarga system is exclusively

> used for timing events alone or also used to understand the nature

of

> planets, benefic or malefic?

>

> If the above answer is both i.e for AV used for both timing of

events

> and understand nature of planets; then I feel we should be able to

> draw conclusions explaining how the planets will behave to houses

it

> aspects based on bindus it gets in AV system.

>

> Sorry to put forward my narrow view instead of going through

lessons

> slowly; because the planets aspects interpretaions that I put below

> except Jupiter and Saturn (which I read on internet) are my own

> observations and I am excited to know with the help of group

members

> if we can draw conclusions to AV system also.

>

> Thanks,

> Rakesh

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M "

> <dalh_1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rakesh ji,

> > ÂÂ

> > I presume you have jumped to the conclusion without going through

> > the lessons.What you wrote are inherent properties of the

planets.

> > How they will behave in different houses with their respective

> > bindus attained as per AV, their aspects,acting as

significators

> etc

> > are different than their individual properties for timing any

event.

> > ÂÂ

> > Any planet can give event for any house.For example if Sat is

> > powerful in 6th as well in 10th and 11th house,so we

can assume

> > that this can give a person some job or better career.SO it does

> > not imply that this will be malefic as per Saturn nature.Here we

> > go for timing of event and not for quality.

> > ÂÂ

> > Similarly this can be applied to other planets.

> > ÂÂ

> > AV points shows the individual strength of a planet in a

house..

> > This helps us to find its overall strength in all the

 

houses with

> > respect to other planets.If a planet is less than 4 bindus,so

 

we

> can

> > say its malefic for the house it resides and so it's aspect

will

> > be benefic.

> > ÂÂ

> > Please go through the lessons slowly.

> > ÂÂ

> > ÂÂ

> > Regards

> > Anup

> > ÂÂ

> > ÂÂ

> > ÂÂ

> > ÂÂ

> >

> > --- On Mon, 16/2/09, rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > rakeshmohan888 <rakeshmohan888@ ...>

> > [astrologyandtiming events] What are the interpretations

of

> the planetary aspects behavior based on AV?

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:27 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Group Members,

> > First of all I like you to validate the following

> > interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?

> >

> > •Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to

achieve the

> > things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the

> 7th

> > house form it.

> > •Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to

the

> house it

> > resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house

> from

> > it.

> > •Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot

of

> hard

> > work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it

> aspects

> > •Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the

intelligence

> > derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the

> benefits

> > to the house it resides.

> > •Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general

gives

> > benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.

> > •Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals,

so it

> > brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with

> the

> > things related to the house it resides.

> > •Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from

the

> house it

> > aspects and gives results to the house it resides.

> >

> > My question is if the above statements are correct then based on

> the

> > Binna Ashtakavara system points system i.e if the planet gets

less

> > than 4 points or gets more than 4 points the statements would

> change?

> >

> > I am asking this question to the group because I am difficulty to

> > comprehend the interpretations based on on AV :)

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Rakesh Mohan

> >

> >

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Dear

Rakesh ji,

 

Look

up the mail on Karak and Karaktwa. All this has been explained.

 

First

thing why is Sun the karak for authority and Mars the

karak for SELF and individuality, Mo is karak for fortune and Shani is karak

for ..........

 

No

where in VA this is given, only Guru ji has given

this in conference and taught on this list.

Start from there, that way you can understand the reason behind the

details that are given in standard texts.

Things have got garbled over time.

KAS will help give clarity and depth in understanding and rectifying

with concrete reasoning.

 

Then

progress from Natural Karak to Functional Karak and once u grasp that, then

understand mool karak. With Karak both NK and FK and Mool Karak you can ascertain the quality of the event. Timing of event procedure is different and that

you can get from the lessons. This is

not given clearly in standard texts.

 

 

Some

of the things given by you are incorrect.

You can correct that from reading some posts on what I have told above

from the archives.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of rakeshmohan888

Monday February 16, 2009

6:35 PM

To:

 

 

Re: What are the interpretations of the planetary aspects behavior based on AV?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group Members,

First of all I like you to validate the following

interpretations of planets behavior is correct or wrong?

 

•Sun governs the soul; so the soul only purpose is to achieve the

things related the house it's placed but ultimately benefits the 7th

house form it.

•Moon governs the emotions or mind i.e. it gives joys to the house it

resides but gives worries to the house it aspects i.e. 7th house from

it.

•Mars governs the force behind any action, so there is lot of hard

work in the house it resides, for the fruits of the houses it aspects

•Mercury governs the speech & intellect; it uses the intelligence

derived from the matters of 7th house from it and gives the benefits

to the house it resides.

•Jupiter governs the knowledge or well being, in general gives

benefic to the houses it aspects but spoils the house it resides.

•Venus governs the ability to attract others to make deals, so it

brings the things related to 7th house from it and values it with the

things related to the house it resides.

•Saturn governs the grief, so it sucks the goodness from the house it

aspects and gives results to the house it resides.

 

My question is if the above statements are correct then based on the

Binna Ashtakavara system points system, how would the behavior of

planets change, if the planet gets less than 4 points and gets more

than 4 points?

 

I am asking this question to the group because I am having difficulty

to comprehend the interpretations based on on Ashtakavarga:)

 

Thanks,

Rakesh Mohan

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