Guest guest Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Dear Group, Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. Saturn’s Delay 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full delay. Jupiter’s delay 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Dear Ash, Great writeup on delays. One point on Jupiter delay. I beleive if Jupiter has less than 4 points then it can not cause delay as it can not aspect malefically in that case. Is this correct? Also is there any restriction on Saturn on # points for delay like jupiter? Thanks Satish P.S. If anyone has message ID where saturn delay is discussed based on the degree of saturn in a sign( i.e saturn at 12 degree in a sign or 2 degree in a sign will have different delays) I would appreciate if you point me to it. "Ash's Corner" <kas Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:17:24 PM Addressing Delay - 1 Dear Group, Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. Saturn’s Delay 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full delay. Jupiter’s delay 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Dear Anupji, While reading the link you sent on writeup on delays, I noticed that it mentions jupiter apsect on saturn( as long as it is not in sign or navansha of saturn and not in libra) can moderate delay. It is mentioned that jupiter should beneficaaly aspect saturn? Does this mean that jupiter should have less than 4 points and aspect saturn to moderate delay? I was not sure that there is any restriction on jupiter as per points go in its aspect on saturn. Could you please comment on this. Thanks Satish SPK <aquaris_rising Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:55:59 AMRe: Addressing Delay - 1 Dear Ash, Great writeup on delays. One point on Jupiter delay. I beleive if Jupiter has less than 4 points then it can not cause delay as it can not aspect malefically in that case. Is this correct? Also is there any restriction on Saturn on # points for delay like jupiter? Thanks Satish P.S. If anyone has message ID where saturn delay is discussed based on the degree of saturn in a sign( i.e saturn at 12 degree in a sign or 2 degree in a sign will have different delays) I would appreciate if you point me to it. "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kasastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, March 18, 2009 10:17:24 PM[astrologyandtiming events] Addressing Delay - 1 Dear Group, Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. Saturn’s Delay 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full delay. Jupiter’s delay 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Dear Satish ji, First we have to look into if there is any Jup delay. So if Jup is itself a delay causing planet,it can not checkSaturn for delay or it can not moderate Saturn delay. Next,Jup can moderate the Saturn delay irrespect of its points.Ven is NK and Jup is natural root karaka for 7th house.Thats why Guru-BAL is primarily considered for a marriage and its delay. In other words,Jup can moderate the Sat delay by its apsect due to natural benefic property. Now if we consider this thing in navamsa,we do not consider points in navamsa but only aspects.So If Jup aspects Sat in navamsa and otherconditions are met as you mentioned,it can moderate Sat delay.Here we only go for aspect and not for bindus of Jup. I hope it clarifies. RegardsAnup--- On Sun, 22/3/09, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: SPK <aquaris_risingRe: Addressing Delay - 1 Date: Sunday, 22 March, 2009, 6:54 PM Dear Anupji, While reading the link you sent on writeup on delays, I noticed that it mentions jupiter apsect on saturn( as long as it is not in sign or navansha of saturn and not in libra) can moderate delay. It is mentioned that jupiter should beneficaaly aspect saturn? Does this mean that jupiter should have less than 4 points and aspect saturn to moderate delay? I was not sure that there is any restriction on jupiter as per points go in its aspect on saturn. Could you please comment on this. Thanks Satish SPK <aquaris_rising@ >astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSunday, March 22, 2009 8:55:59 AMRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Addressing Delay - 1 Dear Ash, Great writeup on delays. One point on Jupiter delay. I beleive if Jupiter has less than 4 points then it can not cause delay as it can not aspect malefically in that case. Is this correct? Also is there any restriction on Saturn on # points for delay like jupiter? Thanks Satish P.S. If anyone has message ID where saturn delay is discussed based on the degree of saturn in a sign( i.e saturn at 12 degree in a sign or 2 degree in a sign will have different delays) I would appreciate if you point me to it. "Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca" <kasastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, March 18, 2009 10:17:24 PM[astrologyandtiming events] Addressing Delay - 1 Dear Group, Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. Saturn’s Delay 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full delay. Jupiter’s delay 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Ash ji, Question on Jupiter delay...! Jupiter donot aspect A, B or C but, If venus is the lord of LoA and LoB and is conjunct with Jupiter, will jupiter cause delay? (Jup and Venus conjunct in Rasi and Navamsha) eg: venus is the lord of 2nd (LoA) and 7th house (LoB) and Jup and Ven both in the 12th house at 4 points each. Thank you in advance, -BBp. - Ash's Corner Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:17 PM Addressing Delay - 1 Dear Group, Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. Saturn’s Delay 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full delay. Jupiter’s delay 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji, I just want to confirm and make sure I understand the points perfectly. Saturn causes delay when it aspect A,B,C or their lords in combination. For example, If Saturn is in A and aspects B and Lord of C. How about if, Saturn aspects LOA,LOB not HC or LOC. However, saturn is with A,B and C lord in the same navamsha (all three in the same sign in D-9) would this mean full delay? Also, I have been able to (finally, interesting story behind this) open and access the index under files so I have been looking at the past posts (very excited!!). I have mostly come across Venus being spoilt if it is 43 degrees or more away from the sun or within 3 degrees, If in the star of moola, jyestha, krittika, arudra, and reduces the quality when in a sun star. When Saturn aspects venus it reduces the quality as well, am I right so far? How about when saturn and venus are together in a sign? I would think venus would be spoil then too. Such as, if venus is in any of the stars I mentioned above and with saturn. I am asking because I normally read about saturns aspect (sight) on venus, not about if they are together, at least so far I have not come across it. I hope you all can help me with this. Thank You, Shalini , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Group, > > Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. > > Saturn's Delay > > 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and > Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of > Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. > 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full > delay. > > Jupiter's delay > > 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or > Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. > > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Shalini ji, I think nothing compares to the mails given by Ash ji regarding addressing delay right from 1 to 8. Remember one important point about Sat delay,houses A,B and C or their lords should be effected by aspect or conjunction in Rasi or navamsa by Sat. For Jup delay house/lord C is not considered and is an exception. None the less if anything left or any doubt there,you should practise on more charts so that you can get the confidence and clear vision about Sat and Jup delay. Another thing is that if Ven is situated with Sat even then Ven can suffer the"quality" loss.Aspects have always more impact than conjunction, no doubt. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 24/3/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004 wrote: shalini3004 <shalini3004 Re: Addressing Delay - 1 Date: Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 12:40 AM Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji,I just want to confirm and make sure I understand the points perfectly.Saturn causes delay when it aspect A,B,C or their lords in combination. For example, If Saturn is in A and aspects B and Lord of C. How about if, Saturn aspects LOA,LOB not HC or LOC. However, saturn is with A,B and C lord in the same navamsha (all three in the same sign in D-9) would this mean full delay? Also, I have been able to (finally, interesting story behind this) open and access the index under files so I have been looking at the past posts (very excited!!). I have mostly come across Venus being spoilt if it is 43 degrees or more away from the sun or within 3 degrees, If in the star of moola, jyestha, krittika, arudra, and reduces the quality when in a sun star. When Saturn aspects venus it reduces the quality as well, am I right so far? How about when saturn and venus are together in a sign? I would think venus would be spoil then too. Such as, if venus is in any of the stars I mentioned above and with saturn. I am asking because I normally read about saturns aspect (sight) on venus, not about if they are together, at least so far I have not come across it. I hope you all can help me with this.Thank You,Shaliniastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear Group,> > Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay.> > Saturn's Delay> > 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and> Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of> Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11.> 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full> delay. > > Jupiter's delay> > 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or> Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. > > > Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Anup Ji, Thank you for your reply, I am trying my hand on the past charts. Yes, Ash ji has explained very well, even so, for me I just have to ask, somethings do not become obvious to me. I only want to make sure if the aspect of saturn or conjunction of saturn in navamsa to any of the lords A, B, C does cause delay. Thank you for clearing the venus I have not got too far yet in the archives, just going slowly, but I had noticed that I was reading mostly saturns sight on venus spoils it I, so far, did not find conjunction. So, I can say that saturn with venus will reduce the quality of venus, whereas, if venus is in jyestha, moola, krittika, arudra (which spoils venus anyways) and receiving sight of saturn will actually spoil venus even more. Saturn with a venus that is in one of the stars mentioned above does spoil venus then. Just making sure. Thank You for your patience. Shalini , dalh_1 wrote: > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > I think nothing compares to the mails given by Ash ji regarding > addressing delay right from 1 to 8. > > Remember one important point about Sat delay,houses A,B and C > or their lords should be effected by aspect or conjunction in Rasi > or navamsa by Sat. > > For Jup delay house/lord C is not considered and is an exception. > > None the less if anything left or any doubt there,you should practise on > more charts so that you can get the confidence and clear vision > about Sat and Jup delay. > > Another thing is that if Ven is situated with Sat even then Ven can > suffer the " quality " loss.Aspects have always more impact than conjunction, > no doubt. > > Regards > Anup > > > > --- On Tue, 24/3/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004 wrote: > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004 > Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 12:40 AM Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji, > > I just want to confirm and make sure I understand the points perfectly. > > Saturn causes delay when it aspect A,B,C or their lords in combination. For example, If Saturn is in A and aspects B and Lord of C. > > How about if, Saturn aspects LOA,LOB not HC or LOC. However, saturn is with A,B and C lord in the same navamsha (all three in the same sign in D-9) would this mean full delay? > > Also, I have been able to (finally, interesting story behind this) open and access the index under files so I have been looking at the past posts (very excited!!). > I have mostly come across Venus being spoilt if it is 43 degrees or more away from the sun or within 3 degrees, If in the star of moola, jyestha, krittika, arudra, and reduces the quality when in a sun star. When Saturn aspects venus it reduces the quality as well, am I right so far? How about when saturn and venus are together in a sign? I would think venus would be spoil then too. Such as, if venus is in any of the stars I mentioned above and with saturn. I am asking because I normally read about saturns aspect (sight) on venus, not about if they are together, at least so far I have not come across it. > > I hope you all can help me with this. > > Thank You, > > Shalini > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. > > > > Saturn's Delay > > > > 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and > > Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of > > Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. > > 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full > > delay. > > > > Jupiter's delay > > > > 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or > > Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Anup ji and Shalini ji, Something is not correct here. Saturn when it aspects Venus, it enhances it. So if Venus is spoilt, then that will get enhanced or you can say, that it enhances the bad qualities of Venus. Same way, Saturn conjoining Venus as well, the similar effect is there. I want to make sure that the word mentioned in the mail was “quality loss” was understood in the right context. It should be that the qualities of Venus are enhanced by Saturn i.e the bad qualities. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of shalini3004 Monday March 23, 2009 7:07 PM To: Subject: Re: Addressing Delay - 1 Dear Anup Ji, Thank you for your reply, I am trying my hand on the past charts. Yes, Ash ji has explained very well, even so, for me I just have to ask, somethings do not become obvious to me. I only want to make sure if the aspect of saturn or conjunction of saturn in navamsa to any of the lords A, B, C does cause delay. Thank you for clearing the venus I have not got too far yet in the archives, just going slowly, but I had noticed that I was reading mostly saturns sight on venus spoils it I, so far, did not find conjunction. So, I can say that saturn with venus will reduce the quality of venus, whereas, if venus is in jyestha, moola, krittika, arudra (which spoils venus anyways) and receiving sight of saturn will actually spoil venus even more. Saturn with a venus that is in one of the stars mentioned above does spoil venus then. Just making sure. Thank You for your patience. Shalini , dalh_1 wrote: > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > I think nothing compares to the mails given by Ash ji regarding > addressing delay right from 1 to 8. > > Remember one important point about Sat delay,houses A,B and C > or their lords should be effected by aspect or conjunction in Rasi > or navamsa by Sat. > > For Jup delay house/lord C is not considered and is an exception. > > None the less if anything left or any doubt there,you should practise on > more charts so that you can get the confidence and clear vision > about Sat and Jup delay. > > Another thing is that if Ven is situated with Sat even then Ven can > suffer the " quality " loss.Aspects have always more impact than conjunction, > no doubt. > > Regards > Anup > > > > --- On Tue, 24/3/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004 wrote: > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004 > Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 12:40 AM > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji, > > I just want to confirm and make sure I understand the points perfectly. > > Saturn causes delay when it aspect A,B,C or their lords in combination. For example, If Saturn is in A and aspects B and Lord of C. > > How about if, Saturn aspects LOA,LOB not HC or LOC. However, saturn is with A,B and C lord in the same navamsha (all three in the same sign in D-9) would this mean full delay? > > Also, I have been able to (finally, interesting story behind this) open and access the index under files so I have been looking at the past posts (very excited!!). > I have mostly come across Venus being spoilt if it is 43 degrees or more away from the sun or within 3 degrees, If in the star of moola, jyestha, krittika, arudra, and reduces the quality when in a sun star. When Saturn aspects venus it reduces the quality as well, am I right so far? How about when saturn and venus are together in a sign? I would think venus would be spoil then too. Such as, if venus is in any of the stars I mentioned above and with saturn. I am asking because I normally read about saturns aspect (sight) on venus, not about if they are together, at least so far I have not come across it. > > I hope you all can help me with this. > > Thank You, > > Shalini > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. > > > > Saturn's Delay > > > > 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and > > Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of > > Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. > > 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full > > delay. > > > > Jupiter's delay > > > > 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or > > Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Respected Ash ji, In case Ve is not in one of the Nakshatras of Sun, or aardra, or moola or Jyeshta, or is within 3-43 degrees from Sun, then what will be its aspect or conjunction to Sa. Thanks Prabha , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Anup ji and Shalini ji, > > Something is not correct here. Saturn when it aspects Venus, it enhances > it. So if Venus is spoilt, then that will get enhanced or you can say, that > it enhances the bad qualities of Venus. > > Same way, Saturn conjoining Venus as well, the similar effect is there. > > I want to make sure that the word mentioned in the mail was " quality loss " > was understood in the right context. It should be that the qualities of > Venus are enhanced by Saturn i.e the bad qualities. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of shalini3004 > Monday March 23, 2009 7:07 PM > > Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > Dear Anup Ji, > > Thank you for your reply, I am trying my hand on the past charts. Yes, Ash > ji has explained very well, even so, for me I just have to ask, somethings > do not become obvious to me. I only want to make sure if the aspect of > saturn or conjunction of saturn in navamsa to any of the lords A, B, C does > cause delay. > Thank you for clearing the venus I have not got too far yet in the archives, > just going slowly, but I had noticed that I was reading mostly saturns sight > on venus spoils it I, so far, did not find conjunction. > So, I can say that saturn with venus will reduce the quality of venus, > whereas, if venus is in jyestha, moola, krittika, arudra (which spoils venus > anyways) and receiving sight of saturn will actually spoil venus even more. > Saturn with a venus that is in one of the stars mentioned above does spoil > venus then. Just making sure. > > Thank You for your patience. > > Shalini > > > <%40> , dalh_1@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > I think nothing compares to the mails given by Ash ji regarding > > addressing delay right from 1 to 8. > > > > Remember one important point about Sat delay,houses A,B and C > > or their lords should be effected by aspect or conjunction in Rasi > > or navamsa by Sat. > > > > For Jup delay house/lord C is not considered and is an exception. > > > > None the less if anything left or any doubt there,you should practise on > > more charts so that you can get the confidence and clear vision > > about Sat and Jup delay. > > > > Another thing is that if Ven is situated with Sat even then Ven can > > suffer the " quality " loss.Aspects have always more impact than conjunction, > > no doubt. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 24/3/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@> wrote: > > > > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@> > > Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > > <%40> > > Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 12:40 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji, > > > > I just want to confirm and make sure I understand the points perfectly. > > > > Saturn causes delay when it aspect A,B,C or their lords in combination. > For example, If Saturn is in A and aspects B and Lord of C. > > > > How about if, Saturn aspects LOA,LOB not HC or LOC. However, saturn is > with A,B and C lord in the same navamsha (all three in the same sign in D-9) > would this mean full delay? > > > > Also, I have been able to (finally, interesting story behind this) open > and access the index under files so I have been looking at the past posts > (very excited!!). > > I have mostly come across Venus being spoilt if it is 43 degrees or more > away from the sun or within 3 degrees, If in the star of moola, jyestha, > krittika, arudra, and reduces the quality when in a sun star. When Saturn > aspects venus it reduces the quality as well, am I right so far? How about > when saturn and venus are together in a sign? I would think venus would be > spoil then too. Such as, if venus is in any of the stars I mentioned above > and with saturn. I am asking because I normally read about saturns aspect > (sight) on venus, not about if they are together, at least so far I have not > come across it. > > > > I hope you all can help me with this. > > > > Thank You, > > > > Shalini > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. > > > > > > Saturn's Delay > > > > > > 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and > > > Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of > > > Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. > > > 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full > > > delay. > > > > > > Jupiter's delay > > > > > > 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or > > > Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger./invite/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Prabha ji, Sa enhances the qualities of Venus. Just apply all things in that respect. If Venus is spoilt then it will get enhanced more i.e. the bad qualities. I hope its clear. In the scenario you gave, what you are saying is that Venus is not spoilt, so in that case, there is no issue. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of prabha.acharya Monday March 23, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: Addressing Delay - 1 Respected Ash ji, In case Ve is not in one of the Nakshatras of Sun, or aardra, or moola or Jyeshta, or is within 3-43 degrees from Sun, then what will be its aspect or conjunction to Sa. Thanks Prabha , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Anup ji and Shalini ji, > > Something is not correct here. Saturn when it aspects Venus, it enhances > it. So if Venus is spoilt, then that will get enhanced or you can say, that > it enhances the bad qualities of Venus. > > Same way, Saturn conjoining Venus as well, the similar effect is there. > > I want to make sure that the word mentioned in the mail was " quality loss " > was understood in the right context. It should be that the qualities of > Venus are enhanced by Saturn i.e the bad qualities. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of shalini3004 > Monday March 23, 2009 7:07 PM > > Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > Dear Anup Ji, > > Thank you for your reply, I am trying my hand on the past charts. Yes, Ash > ji has explained very well, even so, for me I just have to ask, somethings > do not become obvious to me. I only want to make sure if the aspect of > saturn or conjunction of saturn in navamsa to any of the lords A, B, C does > cause delay. > Thank you for clearing the venus I have not got too far yet in the archives, > just going slowly, but I had noticed that I was reading mostly saturns sight > on venus spoils it I, so far, did not find conjunction. > So, I can say that saturn with venus will reduce the quality of venus, > whereas, if venus is in jyestha, moola, krittika, arudra (which spoils venus > anyways) and receiving sight of saturn will actually spoil venus even more. > Saturn with a venus that is in one of the stars mentioned above does spoil > venus then. Just making sure. > > Thank You for your patience. > > Shalini > > > <%40> , dalh_1@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > I think nothing compares to the mails given by Ash ji regarding > > addressing delay right from 1 to 8. > > > > Remember one important point about Sat delay,houses A,B and C > > or their lords should be effected by aspect or conjunction in Rasi > > or navamsa by Sat. > > > > For Jup delay house/lord C is not considered and is an exception. > > > > None the less if anything left or any doubt there,you should practise on > > more charts so that you can get the confidence and clear vision > > about Sat and Jup delay. > > > > Another thing is that if Ven is situated with Sat even then Ven can > > suffer the " quality " loss.Aspects have always more impact than conjunction, > > no doubt. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 24/3/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@> wrote: > > > > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@> > > Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > > <%40> > > Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 12:40 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji, > > > > I just want to confirm and make sure I understand the points perfectly. > > > > Saturn causes delay when it aspect A,B,C or their lords in combination. > For example, If Saturn is in A and aspects B and Lord of C. > > > > How about if, Saturn aspects LOA,LOB not HC or LOC. However, saturn is > with A,B and C lord in the same navamsha (all three in the same sign in D-9) > would this mean full delay? > > > > Also, I have been able to (finally, interesting story behind this) open > and access the index under files so I have been looking at the past posts > (very excited!!). > > I have mostly come across Venus being spoilt if it is 43 degrees or more > away from the sun or within 3 degrees, If in the star of moola, jyestha, > krittika, arudra, and reduces the quality when in a sun star. When Saturn > aspects venus it reduces the quality as well, am I right so far? How about > when saturn and venus are together in a sign? I would think venus would be > spoil then too. Such as, if venus is in any of the stars I mentioned above > and with saturn. I am asking because I normally read about saturns aspect > (sight) on venus, not about if they are together, at least so far I have not > come across it. > > > > I hope you all can help me with this. > > > > Thank You, > > > > Shalini > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. > > > > > > Saturn's Delay > > > > > > 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and > > > Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of > > > Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. > > > 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full > > > delay. > > > > > > Jupiter's delay > > > > > > 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or > > > Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger./invite/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Ash Ji, Thank you for your reply; from what I have understood is that when venus is spoiled by being in moola, jyestha, krittika, arudra, or being in star of sun, then only being with saturn OR being aspected by saturn will enhance the bad qualities of venus otherwise if venus is not in any of the above, saturn conjunction or aspect is actually good (I hope I have got it now). Thank you for your patience. Shalini , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Anup ji and Shalini ji, > > Something is not correct here. Saturn when it aspects Venus, it enhances > it. So if Venus is spoilt, then that will get enhanced or you can say, that > it enhances the bad qualities of Venus. > > Same way, Saturn conjoining Venus as well, the similar effect is there. > > I want to make sure that the word mentioned in the mail was " quality loss " > was understood in the right context. It should be that the qualities of > Venus are enhanced by Saturn i.e the bad qualities. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of shalini3004 > Monday March 23, 2009 7:07 PM > > Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > Dear Anup Ji, > > Thank you for your reply, I am trying my hand on the past charts. Yes, Ash > ji has explained very well, even so, for me I just have to ask, somethings > do not become obvious to me. I only want to make sure if the aspect of > saturn or conjunction of saturn in navamsa to any of the lords A, B, C does > cause delay. > Thank you for clearing the venus I have not got too far yet in the archives, > just going slowly, but I had noticed that I was reading mostly saturns sight > on venus spoils it I, so far, did not find conjunction. > So, I can say that saturn with venus will reduce the quality of venus, > whereas, if venus is in jyestha, moola, krittika, arudra (which spoils venus > anyways) and receiving sight of saturn will actually spoil venus even more. > Saturn with a venus that is in one of the stars mentioned above does spoil > venus then. Just making sure. > > Thank You for your patience. > > Shalini > > > <%40> , dalh_1@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > I think nothing compares to the mails given by Ash ji regarding > > addressing delay right from 1 to 8. > > > > Remember one important point about Sat delay,houses A,B and C > > or their lords should be effected by aspect or conjunction in Rasi > > or navamsa by Sat. > > > > For Jup delay house/lord C is not considered and is an exception. > > > > None the less if anything left or any doubt there,you should practise on > > more charts so that you can get the confidence and clear vision > > about Sat and Jup delay. > > > > Another thing is that if Ven is situated with Sat even then Ven can > > suffer the " quality " loss.Aspects have always more impact than conjunction, > > no doubt. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 24/3/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@> wrote: > > > > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@> > > Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > > <%40> > > Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 12:40 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji, > > > > I just want to confirm and make sure I understand the points perfectly. > > > > Saturn causes delay when it aspect A,B,C or their lords in combination. > For example, If Saturn is in A and aspects B and Lord of C. > > > > How about if, Saturn aspects LOA,LOB not HC or LOC. However, saturn is > with A,B and C lord in the same navamsha (all three in the same sign in D-9) > would this mean full delay? > > > > Also, I have been able to (finally, interesting story behind this) open > and access the index under files so I have been looking at the past posts > (very excited!!). > > I have mostly come across Venus being spoilt if it is 43 degrees or more > away from the sun or within 3 degrees, If in the star of moola, jyestha, > krittika, arudra, and reduces the quality when in a sun star. When Saturn > aspects venus it reduces the quality as well, am I right so far? How about > when saturn and venus are together in a sign? I would think venus would be > spoil then too. Such as, if venus is in any of the stars I mentioned above > and with saturn. I am asking because I normally read about saturns aspect > (sight) on venus, not about if they are together, at least so far I have not > come across it. > > > > I hope you all can help me with this. > > > > Thank You, > > > > Shalini > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. > > > > > > Saturn's Delay > > > > > > 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and > > > Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of > > > Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. > > > 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full > > > delay. > > > > > > Jupiter's delay > > > > > > 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or > > > Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger./invite/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Ash Ji, I just replied to your earlier post which has not posted yet, and you have cleared it for me here. Thank You. Shalini , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Prabha ji, > > Sa enhances the qualities of Venus. Just apply all things in that respect. > If Venus is spoilt then it will get enhanced more i.e. the bad qualities. I > hope its clear. > > In the scenario you gave, what you are saying is that Venus is not spoilt, > so in that case, there is no issue. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of > prabha.acharya > Monday March 23, 2009 9:42 PM > > Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > Respected Ash ji, > In case Ve is not in one of the Nakshatras of Sun, or aardra, or moola or > Jyeshta, or is within 3-43 degrees from Sun, then what will be its aspect or > conjunction to Sa. > Thanks > Prabha > > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup ji and Shalini ji, > > > > Something is not correct here. Saturn when it aspects Venus, it enhances > > it. So if Venus is spoilt, then that will get enhanced or you can say, > that > > it enhances the bad qualities of Venus. > > > > Same way, Saturn conjoining Venus as well, the similar effect is there. > > > > I want to make sure that the word mentioned in the mail was " quality loss " > > was understood in the right context. It should be that the qualities of > > Venus are enhanced by Saturn i.e the bad qualities. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > <%40> > > [ > <%40> ] On Behalf Of > shalini3004 > > Monday March 23, 2009 7:07 PM > > > <%40> > > Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > > > Dear Anup Ji, > > > > Thank you for your reply, I am trying my hand on the past charts. Yes, Ash > > ji has explained very well, even so, for me I just have to ask, somethings > > do not become obvious to me. I only want to make sure if the aspect of > > saturn or conjunction of saturn in navamsa to any of the lords A, B, C > does > > cause delay. > > Thank you for clearing the venus I have not got too far yet in the > archives, > > just going slowly, but I had noticed that I was reading mostly saturns > sight > > on venus spoils it I, so far, did not find conjunction. > > So, I can say that saturn with venus will reduce the quality of venus, > > whereas, if venus is in jyestha, moola, krittika, arudra (which spoils > venus > > anyways) and receiving sight of saturn will actually spoil venus even > more. > > Saturn with a venus that is in one of the stars mentioned above does spoil > > venus then. Just making sure. > > > > Thank You for your patience. > > > > Shalini > > > > > <%40> > > <%40> , dalh_1@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > > > I think nothing compares to the mails given by Ash ji regarding > > > addressing delay right from 1 to 8. > > > > > > Remember one important point about Sat delay,houses A,B and C > > > or their lords should be effected by aspect or conjunction in Rasi > > > or navamsa by Sat. > > > > > > For Jup delay house/lord C is not considered and is an exception. > > > > > > None the less if anything left or any doubt there,you should practise on > > > more charts so that you can get the confidence and clear vision > > > about Sat and Jup delay. > > > > > > Another thing is that if Ven is situated with Sat even then Ven can > > > suffer the " quality " loss.Aspects have always more impact than > conjunction, > > > no doubt. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 24/3/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@> > > > Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > > > <%40> > > <%40> > > > Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 12:40 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji, > > > > > > I just want to confirm and make sure I understand the points perfectly. > > > > > > Saturn causes delay when it aspect A,B,C or their lords in combination. > > For example, If Saturn is in A and aspects B and Lord of C. > > > > > > How about if, Saturn aspects LOA,LOB not HC or LOC. However, saturn is > > with A,B and C lord in the same navamsha (all three in the same sign in > D-9) > > would this mean full delay? > > > > > > Also, I have been able to (finally, interesting story behind this) open > > and access the index under files so I have been looking at the past posts > > (very excited!!). > > > I have mostly come across Venus being spoilt if it is 43 degrees or more > > away from the sun or within 3 degrees, If in the star of moola, jyestha, > > krittika, arudra, and reduces the quality when in a sun star. When Saturn > > aspects venus it reduces the quality as well, am I right so far? How about > > when saturn and venus are together in a sign? I would think venus would be > > spoil then too. Such as, if venus is in any of the stars I mentioned above > > and with saturn. I am asking because I normally read about saturns aspect > > (sight) on venus, not about if they are together, at least so far I have > not > > come across it. > > > > > > I hope you all can help me with this. > > > > > > Thank You, > > > > > > Shalini > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. > > > > > > > > Saturn's Delay > > > > > > > > 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and > > > > Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of > > > > Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. > > > > 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > Jupiter's delay > > > > > > > > 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or > > > > Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > > http://messenger./invite/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Ash ji and Shalini ji, One important point i forget to mention here in context of Venus and Sat is that Sat should also aspect one of the luminary like moon or sun for getting wild. So this can be another step. Apspect of Sat on luminaries is very important if Ven qualities are enhanced by Sat.If one of the luminaries do not have aspect of Sat,we can say such Ven can be restricted or regulated to some extent in absence of luminaries involvement. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 24/3/09, Ash's Corner <kas wrote: Ash's Corner <kasRE: Re: Addressing Delay - 1 Date: Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 6:55 AM Dear Anup ji and Shalini ji, Something is not correct here. Saturn when it aspects Venus, it enhances it. So if Venus is spoilt, then that will get enhanced or you can say, that it enhances the bad qualities of Venus. Same way, Saturn conjoining Venus as well, the similar effect is there. I want to make sure that the word mentioned in the mail was “quality loss†was understood in the right context. It should be that the qualities of Venus are enhanced by Saturn i.e the bad qualities. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of shalini3004Monday March 23, 2009 7:07 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] Re: Addressing Delay - 1 Dear Anup Ji,Thank you for your reply, I am trying my hand on the past charts. Yes, Ash ji has explained very well, even so, for me I just have to ask, somethings do not become obvious to me. I only want to make sure if the aspect of saturn or conjunction of saturn in navamsa to any of the lords A, B, C does cause delay. Thank you for clearing the venus I have not got too far yet in the archives, just going slowly, but I had noticed that I was reading mostly saturns sight on venus spoils it I, so far, did not find conjunction. So, I can say that saturn with venus will reduce the quality of venus, whereas, if venus is in jyestha, moola, krittika, arudra (which spoils venus anyways) and receiving sight of saturn will actually spoil venus even more. Saturn with a venus that is in one of the stars mentioned above does spoil venus then. Just making sure.Thank You for your patience.Shalini astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, dalh_1 wrote:>> > Dear Shalini ji,> > I think nothing compares to the mails given by Ash ji regarding> addressing delay right from 1 to 8.> > Remember one important point about Sat delay,houses A,B and C> or their lords should be effected by aspect or conjunction in Rasi> or navamsa by Sat.> > For Jup delay house/lord C is not considered and is an exception.> > None the less if anything left or any doubt there,you should practise on> more charts so that you can get the confidence and clear vision> about Sat and Jup delay.> > Another thing is that if Ven is situated with Sat even then Ven can > suffer the"quality" loss.Aspects have always more impact than conjunction,> no doubt.> > Regards> Anup> > > > --- On Tue, 24/3/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@ ...> wrote:> > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@ ...>> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Addressing Delay - 1> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 12:40 AM> > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji,> > I just want to confirm and make sure I understand the points perfectly.> > Saturn causes delay when it aspect A,B,C or their lords in combination. For example, If Saturn is in A and aspects B and Lord of C. > > How about if, Saturn aspects LOA,LOB not HC or LOC. However, saturn is with A,B and C lord in the same navamsha (all three in the same sign in D-9) would this mean full delay? > > Also, I have been able to (finally, interesting story behind this) open and access the index under files so I have been looking at the past posts (very excited!!). > I have mostly come across Venus being spoilt if it is 43 degrees or more away from the sun or within 3 degrees, If in the star of moola, jyestha, krittika, arudra, and reduces the quality when in a sun star. When Saturn aspects venus it reduces the quality as well, am I right so far? How about when saturn and venus are together in a sign? I would think venus would be spoil then too. Such as, if venus is in any of the stars I mentioned above and with saturn. I am asking because I normally read about saturns aspect (sight) on venus, not about if they are together, at least so far I have not come across it. > > I hope you all can help me with this.> > Thank You,> > Shalini> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner@" <kas@> wrote:> >> > Dear Group,> > > > Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay.> > > > Saturn's Delay> > > > 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and> > Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of> > Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11.> > 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full> > delay. > > > > Jupiter's delay> > > > 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or> > Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Anup Ji, How about if in natal chart Venus is spoiled in Arudra with Saturn, but in natal does not aspect a luminary but in D-9 Saturn is with a luminary. Then, I am guessing it will act wild, is this right? Thank You Shalini , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash ji and Shalini ji, >  >  > One important point i forget to mention here in context of Venus > and Sat is that Sat should also aspect one of the luminary like > moon or sun for getting wild. So this can be another step. >  > Apspect of Sat on luminaries is very important if Ven qualities > are enhanced by Sat.If one of the luminaries do not have aspect > of Sat,we can say such Ven can be restricted or regulated to some > extent in absence of  luminaries involvement. >  > Regards > Anup >  >  >  >  >  > > > --- On Tue, 24/3/09, Ash's Corner <kas wrote: > > > Ash's Corner <kas > RE: Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 6:55 AM > > Dear Anup ji and Shalini ji, >  > Something is not correct here. Saturn when it aspects Venus, it enhances it. So if Venus is spoilt, then that will get enhanced or you can say, that it enhances the bad qualities of Venus. >  > Same way, Saturn conjoining Venus as well, the similar effect is there. >  > I want to make sure that the word mentioned in the mail was “quality loss†was understood in the right context. It should be that the qualities of Venus are enhanced by Saturn i.e the bad qualities. >  > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca >  > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of shalini3004 > Monday March 23, 2009 7:07 PM > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Addressing Delay - 1 >  > > > > Dear Anup Ji, > > Thank you for your reply, I am trying my hand on the past charts. Yes, Ash ji has explained very well, even so, for me I just have to ask, somethings do not become obvious to me. I only want to make sure if the aspect of saturn or conjunction of saturn in navamsa to any of the lords A, B, C does cause delay. > Thank you for clearing the venus I have not got too far yet in the archives, just going slowly, but I had noticed that I was reading mostly saturns sight on venus spoils it I, so far, did not find conjunction. > So, I can say that saturn with venus will reduce the quality of venus, whereas, if venus is in jyestha, moola, krittika, arudra (which spoils venus anyways) and receiving sight of saturn will actually spoil venus even more. > Saturn with a venus that is in one of the stars mentioned above does spoil venus then. Just making sure. > > Thank You for your patience. > > Shalini > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, dalh_1@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > >  > > I think nothing compares to the mails given by Ash ji regarding > > addressing delay right from 1 to 8. > >  > > Remember one important point about Sat delay,houses A,B and C > > or their lords should be effected by aspect or conjunction in Rasi > > or navamsa by Sat. > >  > > For Jup delay house/lord C is not considered and is an exception. > >  > > None the less if anything left or any doubt there,you should practise on > > more charts so that you can get the confidence and clear vision > > about Sat and Jup delay. > >  > > Another thing is that if Ven is situated with Sat even then Ven can > > suffer the " quality " loss.Aspects have always more impact than conjunction, > > no doubt. > >  > > Regards > > Anup > >  > >  > >  > >  --- On Tue, 24/3/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@ ...> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 12:40 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji, > > > > I just want to confirm and make sure I understand the points perfectly. > > > > Saturn causes delay when it aspect A,B,C or their lords in combination. For example, If Saturn is in A and aspects B and Lord of C. > > > > How about if, Saturn aspects LOA,LOB not HC or LOC. However, saturn is with A,B and C lord in the same navamsha (all three in the same sign in D-9) would this mean full delay? > > > > Also, I have been able to (finally, interesting story behind this) open and access the index under files so I have been looking at the past posts (very excited!!). > > I have mostly come across Venus being spoilt if it is 43 degrees or more away from the sun or within 3 degrees, If in the star of moola, jyestha, krittika, arudra, and reduces the quality when in a sun star. When Saturn aspects venus it reduces the quality as well, am I right so far? How about when saturn and venus are together in a sign? I would think venus would be spoil then too. Such as, if venus is in any of the stars I mentioned above and with saturn. I am asking because I normally read about saturns aspect (sight) on venus, not about if they are together, at least so far I have not come across it. > > > > I hope you all can help me with this. > > > > Thank You, > > > > Shalini > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. > > > > > > Saturn's Delay > > > > > > 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and > > > Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of > > > Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. > > > 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full > > > delay. > > > > > > Jupiter's delay > > > > > > 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or > > > Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Dear Shalini ji, Yes,if Sat is with one of the luminaries in navamsa and Ven is spoiled being in ardra,then also it will act more wildly. Moon or Sun obstructs Ven and control its status. So guess when control is lose..... I think its clear now. I will request Guruji to guide us if possible. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 24/3/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004 wrote: shalini3004 <shalini3004 Re: Addressing Delay - 1 Date: Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 10:33 AM Dear Anup Ji,How about if in natal chart Venus is spoiled in Arudra with Saturn, but in natal does not aspect a luminary but in D-9 Saturn is with a luminary. Then, I am guessing it will act wild, is this right?Thank YouShaliniastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Ash ji and Shalini ji,> > > One important point i forget to mention here in context of Venus> and Sat is that Sat should also aspect one of the luminary like > moon or sun for getting wild. So this can be another step.> > Apspect of Sat on luminaries is very important if Ven qualities> are enhanced by Sat.If one of the luminaries do not have aspect> of Sat,we can say such Ven can be restricted or regulated to some> extent in absence of luminaries involvement.> > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 24/3/09, Ash's Corner <kas.> wrote:> > > Ash's Corner <kas> RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Addressing Delay - 1> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 6:55 AM> > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji and Shalini ji,> > Something is not correct here. Saturn when it aspects Venus, it enhances it. So if Venus is spoilt, then that will get enhanced or you can say, that it enhances the bad qualities of Venus.> > Same way, Saturn conjoining Venus as well, the similar effect is there.> > I want to make sure that the word mentioned in the mail was “quality loss†was understood in the right context. It should be that the qualities of Venus are enhanced by Saturn i.e the bad qualities.> > > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of shalini3004> Monday March 23, 2009 7:07 PM> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Addressing Delay - 1> > > > > Dear Anup Ji,> > Thank you for your reply, I am trying my hand on the past charts. Yes, Ash ji has explained very well, even so, for me I just have to ask, somethings do not become obvious to me. I only want to make sure if the aspect of saturn or conjunction of saturn in navamsa to any of the lords A, B, C does cause delay. > Thank you for clearing the venus I have not got too far yet in the archives, just going slowly, but I had noticed that I was reading mostly saturns sight on venus spoils it I, so far, did not find conjunction. > So, I can say that saturn with venus will reduce the quality of venus, whereas, if venus is in jyestha, moola, krittika, arudra (which spoils venus anyways) and receiving sight of saturn will actually spoil venus even more. > Saturn with a venus that is in one of the stars mentioned above does spoil venus then. Just making sure.> > Thank You for your patience.> > Shalini > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, dalh_1@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Shalini ji,> > > > I think nothing compares to the mails given by Ash ji regarding> > addressing delay right from 1 to 8.> > > > Remember one important point about Sat delay,houses A,B and C> > or their lords should be effected by aspect or conjunction in Rasi> > or navamsa by Sat.> > > > For Jup delay house/lord C is not considered and is an exception.> > > > None the less if anything left or any doubt there,you should practise on> > more charts so that you can get the confidence and clear vision> > about Sat and Jup delay.> > > > Another thing is that if Ven is situated with Sat even then Ven can > > suffer the"quality" loss.Aspects have always more impact than conjunction,> > no doubt.> > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 24/3/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@ ...>> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Addressing Delay - 1> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s..com> > Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 12:40 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji,> > > > I just want to confirm and make sure I understand the points perfectly.> > > > Saturn causes delay when it aspect A,B,C or their lords in combination. For example, If Saturn is in A and aspects B and Lord of C. > > > > How about if, Saturn aspects LOA,LOB not HC or LOC. However, saturn is with A,B and C lord in the same navamsha (all three in the same sign in D-9) would this mean full delay? > > > > Also, I have been able to (finally, interesting story behind this) open and access the index under files so I have been looking at the past posts (very excited!!). > > I have mostly come across Venus being spoilt if it is 43 degrees or more away from the sun or within 3 degrees, If in the star of moola, jyestha, krittika, arudra, and reduces the quality when in a sun star. When Saturn aspects venus it reduces the quality as well, am I right so far? How about when saturn and venus are together in a sign? I would think venus would be spoil then too. Such as, if venus is in any of the stars I mentioned above and with saturn. I am asking because I normally read about saturns aspect (sight) on venus, not about if they are together, at least so far I have not come across it. > > > > I hope you all can help me with this.> > > > Thank You,> > > > Shalini> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner@" <kas@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Group,> > > > > > Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay.> > > > > > Saturn's Delay> > > > > > 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and> > > Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of> > > Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11.> > > 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full> > > delay. > > > > > > Jupiter's delay> > > > > > 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or> > > Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Dear Anup Ji, Thank You for clearing this up for me. Shalini , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Shalini ji, >  > Yes,if Sat is with one of the luminaries in navamsa and Ven is spoiled > being in ardra,then also it will act more wildly. >  > Moon or Sun obstructs Ven and control its status. > So guess when control is lose..... >  > I think its clear now. > I will request Guruji to guide us if possible. >  > Regards > Anup >  >  >  >  > > --- On Tue, 24/3/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004 wrote: > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004 > Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 10:33 AM Dear Anup Ji, > > How about if in natal chart Venus is spoiled in Arudra with Saturn, but in natal does not aspect a luminary but in D-9 Saturn is with a luminary. Then, I am guessing it will act wild, is this right? > > Thank You > > Shalini > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash ji and Shalini ji, > >  > >  > > One important point i forget to mention here in context of Venus > > and Sat is that Sat should also aspect one of the luminary like > > moon or sun for getting wild. So this can be another step. > >  > > Apspect of Sat on luminaries is very important if Ven qualities > > are enhanced by Sat.If one of the luminaries do not have aspect > > of Sat,we can say such Ven can be restricted or regulated to some > > extent in absence of  luminaries involvement. > >  > > Regards > > Anup > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > > > --- On Tue, 24/3/09, Ash's Corner@ <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ <kas@> > > RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 6:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji and Shalini ji, > >  > > Something is not correct here. Saturn when it aspects Venus, it enhances it. So if Venus is spoilt, then that will get enhanced or you can say, that it enhances the bad qualities of Venus. > >  > > Same way, Saturn conjoining Venus as well, the similar effect is there. > >  > > I want to make sure that the word mentioned in the mail was “quality loss†was understood in the right context. It should be that the qualities of Venus are enhanced by Saturn i.e the bad qualities. > >  > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > >  > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of shalini3004 > > Monday March 23, 2009 7:07 PM > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Anup Ji, > > > > Thank you for your reply, I am trying my hand on the past charts. Yes, Ash ji has explained very well, even so, for me I just have to ask, somethings do not become obvious to me. I only want to make sure if the aspect of saturn or conjunction of saturn in navamsa to any of the lords A, B, C does cause delay. > > Thank you for clearing the venus I have not got too far yet in the archives, just going slowly, but I had noticed that I was reading mostly saturns sight on venus spoils it I, so far, did not find conjunction. > > So, I can say that saturn with venus will reduce the quality of venus, whereas, if venus is in jyestha, moola, krittika, arudra (which spoils venus anyways) and receiving sight of saturn will actually spoil venus even more. > > Saturn with a venus that is in one of the stars mentioned above does spoil venus then. Just making sure. > > > > Thank You for your patience. > > > > Shalini > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, dalh_1@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > >  > > > I think nothing compares to the mails given by Ash ji regarding > > > addressing delay right from 1 to 8. > > >  > > > Remember one important point about Sat delay,houses A,B and C > > > or their lords should be effected by aspect or conjunction in Rasi > > > or navamsa by Sat. > > >  > > > For Jup delay house/lord C is not considered and is an exception. > > >  > > > None the less if anything left or any doubt there,you should practise on > > > more charts so that you can get the confidence and clear vision > > > about Sat and Jup delay. > > >  > > > Another thing is that if Ven is situated with Sat even then Ven can > > > suffer the " quality " loss.Aspects have always more impact than conjunction, > > > no doubt. > > >  > > > Regards > > > Anup > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  --- On Tue, 24/3/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@ ...> > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Addressing Delay - 1 > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Tuesday, 24 March, 2009, 12:40 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji, > > > > > > I just want to confirm and make sure I understand the points perfectly. > > > > > > Saturn causes delay when it aspect A,B,C or their lords in combination. For example, If Saturn is in A and aspects B and Lord of C. > > > > > > How about if, Saturn aspects LOA,LOB not HC or LOC. However, saturn is with A,B and C lord in the same navamsha (all three in the same sign in D-9) would this mean full delay? > > > > > > Also, I have been able to (finally, interesting story behind this) open and access the index under files so I have been looking at the past posts (very excited!!). > > > I have mostly come across Venus being spoilt if it is 43 degrees or more away from the sun or within 3 degrees, If in the star of moola, jyestha, krittika, arudra, and reduces the quality when in a sun star. When Saturn aspects venus it reduces the quality as well, am I right so far? How about when saturn and venus are together in a sign? I would think venus would be spoil then too. Such as, if venus is in any of the stars I mentioned above and with saturn. I am asking because I normally read about saturns aspect (sight) on venus, not about if they are together, at least so far I have not come across it. > > > > > > I hope you all can help me with this. > > > > > > Thank You, > > > > > > Shalini > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > Saturn and Jupiter are slow moving planets and they cause delay. > > > > > > > > Saturn's Delay > > > > > > > > 1) When Saturn aspects House A, B and C or their lords in Rasi and > > > > Navamsa then Saturn will cause delay. Here we will take the event of > > > > Marriage therefore House A = 2, B = 7 and C = 11. > > > > 2) When Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa then it will cause full > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > Jupiter's delay > > > > > > > > 1) When Jupiter aspects House A or House B and its lord in Rasi or > > > > Navamsa then Jupiter causes delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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