Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Dear Ash, Anup, Guruji and list members I came across a chart of an individual who is unmarried at the age of 54. Please take a look and cooment on factors that may have led to this DOB, June 2, 1954 TOB : 8:20 AM POB, Ahamadnagar, 23N36, 72E57 The lagna degree would be 22 Gemini 24 The person is also not gainfully employed for past 4-5 years, just partime stints. Looking at the chart There is blessing in the chart. Venus sun distance is OK Venus is in Ardra ( A blemish) One zero in BAV of saturn ( Saturn in Root Karaka) There is full saturn delay ( However that got over long time agao) 6th lord is in the seventh house WS points for 7th house are >12 for all the planets WS points 5th are ok for 5 of the 7 planets WS points for 12th are < 12 for 4 of 7 planets. Many planets in the 1st house are aspected by 6th lord from the seventh house. I am not sure what can cause delay / denial of marriage. I do not have events in his life to verify the chart, Assuming it to be a correct chart( Lagna etc are not on boderline) could you please comment on the chart. Thanks Satish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Dear Satish ji, My opinion is that this person cannot have happiness in marital life. I think we had discussed this earlier regarding quality, but this is a good chart to study the same. Yes here we need more events to confirm the birth time which you have not provided. Here in this chart, 6th lord is in 7th house and this is Mars. Mars is also Vakri and it has only 1 bindu. So it is going to spoil the 7th house matters and 12th house matters. This Mars is with Rahu spoiling it further making it more eccentric in nature and everything is enhanced due to Ma being Retro. Next, Ma is with 1 bindu and so many planets are in 7th from Ma and Ma has a dristi of 7 bindus on each planet spoiling them. So to get the quality of the planet we need to remove double the points given by 7th lord. However in our WS we are not adding the power of +7 as its 6th lord so we need to remove the power from the planet Mars aspects by -7 (one more time) to get proper value for Quality. So Ju, Me, Ve, and Mo are all in 7th from Ma. Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 15 18 16 18 13 18 21 Now we need to remove -7 from Mo, Me, Ju and Ve so the net power would become Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 15 11 16 11 6 11 21 Now for Sun, Mars is in Karak sthan so that will have its influence as well on it. Only Saturn has 21 points , but Sa itself is adding 18 points i.e. due to its aspect on ABC house and adding +6 each as Sa has 2 bindus. Otherwise the Basic power of Saturn is only 8 (A+B+C). The same goes for Sun as well. Sun itself has only 10 points as its own Basic strength and Sun itself is adding 5 points as it is in House E with 5 bindus. So from the above you can see that the quality for each planet is affected and spoilt. 6th lord is spoiling LoA, Houes B, LoD and LoE and LoB. Ma is also LoC. Ma aspects House A as well and is in House B. Careful study of Karak sthan and Karaks. Mo is FK and its spoilt by Ma and it is also in 12th from B. Ve is NK and it is spoilt by being in Aadra and its also spoilt by 6th lord so quality is spoilt. Karak sthan is also affected by 6th lord. Now, RK is Saturn and in Navamsa, in Karak sthan from Sa is Ma the 6th lord so that is one thing. Next, is that RK has 0 power in Karak sthan and itself is involved in Causing delay. The same with Guru. Guru is aspecting 7th house malefically and its with Karak Moon. This will cause delay as well. So, overall, on the surface all the points look more for 7th house but if you go into detail of quality, all the planets have less than 12 points. Only Sa and Sun have more and their own Basic power is less and for both the planets again, Karak sthan has 6th lord. The results of 7th house and 12th house are spoilt and Karak for 5th house for emotions is also Venus and that too is spoilt and so is mool karak sthan for 5th. So in this case, there is also a blessing but the blessing giving planet itself is causing delay. If you can give more events of this persons life, it will be great for learning. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Sunday March 22, 2009 7:08 PM To: Subject: Chart of unmarried person Dear Ash, Anup, Guruji and list members I came across a chart of an individual who is unmarried at the age of 54. Please take a look and cooment on factors that may have led to this DOB, June 2, 1954 TOB : 8:20 AM POB, Ahamadnagar, 23N36, 72E57 The lagna degree would be 22 Gemini 24 The person is also not gainfully employed for past 4-5 years, just partime stints. Looking at the chart There is blessing in the chart. Venus sun distance is OK Venus is in Ardra ( A blemish) One zero in BAV of saturn ( Saturn in Root Karaka) There is full saturn delay ( However that got over long time agao) 6th lord is in the seventh house WS points for 7th house are >12 for all the planets WS points 5th are ok for 5 of the 7 planets WS points for 12th are < 12 for 4 of 7 planets. Many planets in the 1st house are aspected by 6th lord from the seventh house. I am not sure what can cause delay / denial of marriage. I do not have events in his life to verify the chart, Assuming it to be a correct chart( Lagna etc are not on boderline) could you please comment on the chart. Thanks Satish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Respected Ashji and Satish ji, Thank you Satish ji for giving this chart. Thank you Ashji for such a nice elaborate explanation. I for one never knew that a chart has to/can be studied in such a way. There is lot to be studied in your explanation. Thanks Prabha , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Satish ji, > > My opinion is that this person cannot have happiness in marital life. > > I think we had discussed this earlier regarding quality, but this is a good > chart to study the same. Yes here we need more events to confirm the birth > time which you have not provided. > > Here in this chart, 6th lord is in 7th house and this is Mars. Mars is also > Vakri and it has only 1 bindu. So it is going to spoil the 7th house > matters and 12th house matters. This Mars is with Rahu spoiling it further > making it more eccentric in nature and everything is enhanced due to Ma > being Retro. > > Next, Ma is with 1 bindu and so many planets are in 7th from Ma and Ma has a > dristi of 7 bindus on each planet spoiling them. So to get the quality of > the planet we need to remove double the points given by 7th lord. However > in our WS we are not adding the power of +7 as its 6th lord so we need to > remove the power from the planet Mars aspects by -7 (one more time) to get > proper value for Quality. > > So Ju, Me, Ve, and Mo are all in 7th from Ma. > > > Su > Mo > Ma > Me > Ju > Ve > Sa > > 15 > 18 > 16 > 18 > 13 > 18 > 21 > > > Now we need to remove -7 from Mo, Me, Ju and Ve so the net power would > become > > > Su > Mo > Ma > Me > Ju > Ve > Sa > > 15 > 11 > 16 > 11 > 6 > 11 > 21 > > > Now for Sun, Mars is in Karak sthan so that will have its influence as well > on it. Only Saturn has 21 points , but Sa itself is adding 18 points i.e. > due to its aspect on ABC house and adding +6 each as Sa has 2 bindus. > > Otherwise the Basic power of Saturn is only 8 (A+B+C). The same goes for > Sun as well. Sun itself has only 10 points as its own Basic strength and > Sun itself is adding 5 points as it is in House E with 5 bindus. > > So from the above you can see that the quality for each planet is affected > and spoilt. 6th lord is spoiling LoA, Houes B, LoD and LoE and LoB. Ma is > also LoC. Ma aspects House A as well and is in House B. > > > Careful study of Karak sthan and Karaks. > > Mo is FK and its spoilt by Ma and it is also in 12th from B. Ve is NK and > it is spoilt by being in Aadra and its also spoilt by 6th lord so quality is > spoilt. Karak sthan is also affected by 6th lord. > > Now, RK is Saturn and in Navamsa, in Karak sthan from Sa is Ma the 6th lord > so that is one thing. Next, is that RK has 0 power in Karak sthan and > itself is involved in Causing delay. The same with Guru. Guru is aspecting > 7th house malefically and its with Karak Moon. This will cause delay as > well. > > So, overall, on the surface all the points look more for 7th house but if > you go into detail of quality, all the planets have less than 12 points. > Only Sa and Sun have more and their own Basic power is less and for both the > planets again, Karak sthan has 6th lord. > > The results of 7th house and 12th house are spoilt and Karak for 5th house > for emotions is also Venus and that too is spoilt and so is mool karak sthan > for 5th. > > So in this case, there is also a blessing but the blessing giving planet > itself is causing delay. > > If you can give more events of this persons life, it will be great for > learning. > > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of SPK > Sunday March 22, 2009 7:08 PM > > Chart of unmarried person > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Guruji and list members > > I came across a chart of an individual who is unmarried at the age of 54. > > Please take a look and cooment on factors that may have led to this > > DOB, June 2, 1954 > TOB : 8:20 AM > POB, Ahamadnagar, 23N36, 72E57 > > The lagna degree would be 22 Gemini 24 > > The person is also not gainfully employed for past 4-5 years, just partime > stints. > > Looking at the chart > > There is blessing in the chart. > > Venus sun distance is OK > Venus is in Ardra ( A blemish) > One zero in BAV of saturn ( Saturn in Root Karaka) > There is full saturn delay ( However that got over long time agao) > 6th lord is in the seventh house > WS points for 7th house are >12 for all the planets > WS points 5th are ok for 5 of the 7 planets > WS points for 12th are < 12 for 4 of 7 planets. > > Many planets in the 1st house are aspected by 6th lord from the seventh > house. > > I am not sure what can cause delay / denial of marriage. > > I do not have events in his life to verify the chart, Assuming it to be a > correct chart( Lagna etc are not on boderline) could you please comment on > the chart. > > Thanks > > Satish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Dear Ash ji,Satsih ji,Prabha ji and Group, Surely an interesting chart chart indeed. Ash ji has nicely given the reasons for non marita status of the native. Still few things are doubtful in this chart if the birth time is correct. Why powerful blessings could not lead the person for marriage? Blesssings are from lagna,moon,and sun, Ven is with Jup so again a kind of blessings. Might be these blessings are not meant for 7th house matters for life of this person. Anyway members can share their views on this interesting chart. Regards Anup --- On Mon, 23/3/09, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: SPK <aquaris_rising Chart of unmarried person Date: Monday, 23 March, 2009, 4:37 AM Dear Ash, Anup, Guruji and list membersI came across a chart of an individual who is unmarried at the age of 54.Please take a look and cooment on factors that may have led to thisDOB, June 2, 1954TOB : 8:20 AMPOB, Ahamadnagar, 23N36, 72E57The lagna degree would be 22 Gemini 24The person is also not gainfully employed for past 4-5 years, just partime stints.Looking at the chartThere is blessing in the chart.Venus sun distance is OKVenus is in Ardra ( A blemish)One zero in BAV of saturn ( Saturn in Root Karaka)There is full saturn delay ( However that got over long time agao)6th lord is in the seventh houseWS points for 7th house are >12 for all the planetsWS points 5th are ok for 5 of the 7 planetsWS points for 12th are < 12 for 4 of 7 planets.Many planets in the 1st house are aspected by 6th lord from the seventh house.I am not sure what can cause delay / denial of marriage.I do not have events in his life to verify the chart, Assuming it to be a correct chart( Lagna etc are not on boderline) could you please comment on the chart.Thanks Satish Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Ash, Thanks for looking into the chart. I will find out more info to validate the birth time. The person is living outside the country of birth and has patchy history of jobs in the past 4-5 years. Satish Dear Anupji, Thanks for looking into the chart as well. It is an interesting chart and I hope we can learn some finer points of KAS, timing as well as quality. I would be interested to know whether we can say that the planets involved in blessing if they are afflicted by 6th lord the quality of blessing can suffer ( In this case one of them is afflicted by 6th lord in rashi chart) Satish "Ash's Corner" <kas Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:28:32 PMRE: Chart of unmarried person Dear Satish ji, My opinion is that this person cannot have happiness in marital life. I think we had discussed this earlier regarding quality, but this is a good chart to study the same. Yes here we need more events to confirm the birth time which you have not provided. Here in this chart, 6th lord is in 7th house and this is Mars. Mars is also Vakri and it has only 1 bindu. So it is going to spoil the 7th house matters and 12th house matters. This Mars is with Rahu spoiling it further making it more eccentric in nature and everything is enhanced due to Ma being Retro. Next, Ma is with 1 bindu and so many planets are in 7th from Ma and Ma has a dristi of 7 bindus on each planet spoiling them. So to get the quality of the planet we need to remove double the points given by 7th lord. However in our WS we are not adding the power of +7 as its 6th lord so we need to remove the power from the planet Mars aspects by -7 (one more time) to get proper value for Quality. So Ju, Me, Ve, and Mo are all in 7th from Ma. Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 15 18 16 18 13 18 21 Now we need to remove -7 from Mo, Me, Ju and Ve so the net power would become Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 15 11 16 11 6 11 21 Now for Sun, Mars is in Karak sthan so that will have its influence as well on it. Only Saturn has 21 points , but Sa itself is adding 18 points i.e. due to its aspect on ABC house and adding +6 each as Sa has 2 bindus. Otherwise the Basic power of Saturn is only 8 (A+B+C). The same goes for Sun as well. Sun itself has only 10 points as its own Basic strength and Sun itself is adding 5 points as it is in House E with 5 bindus. So from the above you can see that the quality for each planet is affected and spoilt. 6th lord is spoiling LoA, Houes B, LoD and LoE and LoB. Ma is also LoC. Ma aspects House A as well and is in House B. Careful study of Karak sthan and Karaks. Mo is FK and its spoilt by Ma and it is also in 12th from B. Ve is NK and it is spoilt by being in Aadra and its also spoilt by 6th lord so quality is spoilt. Karak sthan is also affected by 6th lord. Now, RK is Saturn and in Navamsa, in Karak sthan from Sa is Ma the 6th lord so that is one thing. Next, is that RK has 0 power in Karak sthan and itself is involved in Causing delay. The same with Guru. Guru is aspecting 7th house malefically and its with Karak Moon. This will cause delay as well. So, overall, on the surface all the points look more for 7th house but if you go into detail of quality, all the planets have less than 12 points. Only Sa and Sun have more and their own Basic power is less and for both the planets again, Karak sthan has 6th lord. The results of 7th house and 12th house are spoilt and Karak for 5th house for emotions is also Venus and that too is spoilt and so is mool karak sthan for 5th. So in this case, there is also a blessing but the blessing giving planet itself is causing delay. If you can give more events of this persons life, it will be great for learning. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of SPKSunday March 22, 2009 7:08 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] Chart of unmarried person Dear Ash, Anup, Guruji and list membersI came across a chart of an individual who is unmarried at the age of 54.Please take a look and cooment on factors that may have led to thisDOB, June 2, 1954TOB : 8:20 AMPOB, Ahamadnagar, 23N36, 72E57The lagna degree would be 22 Gemini 24The person is also not gainfully employed for past 4-5 years, just partime stints.Looking at the chartThere is blessing in the chart.Venus sun distance is OKVenus is in Ardra ( A blemish)One zero in BAV of saturn ( Saturn in Root Karaka)There is full saturn delay ( However that got over long time agao)6th lord is in the seventh houseWS points for 7th house are >12 for all the planetsWS points 5th are ok for 5 of the 7 planetsWS points for 12th are < 12 for 4 of 7 planets.Many planets in the 1st house are aspected by 6th lord from the seventh house.I am not sure what can cause delay / denial of marriage.I do not have events in his life to verify the chart, Assuming it to be a correct chart( Lagna etc are not on boderline) could you please comment on the chart.Thanks Satish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Guru ji, Anup ji and Satish ji, I am presenting my thoughts on the question asked. Saturn is the 9th lord in the chart and that itself is involved in blessing so here no question about reducing delay. Next was the fact that the 9th lord has 0 power in 2nd house i.e. Karak sthan for marriage. So here it can mean that the blessing giving planet does not have any say in 2nd house matters so it can’t take part or has no votes or power there. So that is one line of thought. My second thought was that, what if it was the blessing that prevented the marriage? Maybe, rather than get into a bad marriage and suffer for the rest of the life , the blessing protected the native by NOT giving the marriage and prevented him from suffering each day of his life? Wouldn’t that be blessing at work? Sometimes, one might be better off not married than being in a terrible marriage suffering and life becomes a living hell? So here, did the blessing protect the native? These are some of my thoughts, maybe both of you have far more experience in life might correct me if I am wrong in my thought process here? I hope Guru ji also guides us here. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. M Monday March 23, 2009 12:14 AM To: Re: Chart of unmarried person Dear Ash ji,Satsih ji,Prabha ji and Group, Surely an interesting chart chart indeed. Ash ji has nicely given the reasons for non marita status of the native. Still few things are doubtful in this chart if the birth time is correct. Why powerful blessings could not lead the person for marriage? Blesssings are from lagna,moon,and sun, Ven is with Jup so again a kind of blessings. Might be these blessings are not meant for 7th house matters for life of this person. Anyway members can share their views on this interesting chart. Regards Anup --- On Mon, 23/3/09, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: SPK <aquaris_rising Chart of unmarried person Monday, 23 March, 2009, 4:37 AM Dear Ash, Anup, Guruji and list members I came across a chart of an individual who is unmarried at the age of 54. Please take a look and cooment on factors that may have led to this DOB, June 2, 1954 TOB : 8:20 AM POB, Ahamadnagar, 23N36, 72E57 The lagna degree would be 22 Gemini 24 The person is also not gainfully employed for past 4-5 years, just partime stints. Looking at the chart There is blessing in the chart. Venus sun distance is OK Venus is in Ardra ( A blemish) One zero in BAV of saturn ( Saturn in Root Karaka) There is full saturn delay ( However that got over long time agao) 6th lord is in the seventh house WS points for 7th house are >12 for all the planets WS points 5th are ok for 5 of the 7 planets WS points for 12th are < 12 for 4 of 7 planets. Many planets in the 1st house are aspected by 6th lord from the seventh house. I am not sure what can cause delay / denial of marriage. I do not have events in his life to verify the chart, Assuming it to be a correct chart( Lagna etc are not on boderline) could you please comment on the chart. Thanks Satish Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Satish ji, It will be great if you can find out more about the native like his life of work or relationship with his parents, the reason for no marriage, any accidents etc etc. More events that more exhaustive study we can do and also confirm. His DBCE points are in rising order, did he travel in Saturn period i.e. Sa/Sa extensively? He has a very calculating nature and is very smart. Does not have a stable mind, changes jobs very frequently. Unable to have fixed thought in mind, always in two minds. He must have a sweet tooth, and likes sweets more in liquid form like Kheer or something like that. He might be tall with tendency to put on weight, might have diabetes. He also must have an argumentative nature. If you can find out things like that, it will be good. Maybe if you get a chance you can confirm the above points. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Monday March 23, 2009 7:53 PM To: Re: Chart of unmarried person Dear Ash, Thanks for looking into the chart. I will find out more info to validate the birth time. The person is living outside the country of birth and has patchy history of jobs in the past 4-5 years. Satish Dear Anupji, Thanks for looking into the chart as well. It is an interesting chart and I hope we can learn some finer points of KAS, timing as well as quality. I would be interested to know whether we can say that the planets involved in blessing if they are afflicted by 6th lord the quality of blessing can suffer ( In this case one of them is afflicted by 6th lord in rashi chart) Satish " Ash's Corner " <kas Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:28:32 PM RE: Chart of unmarried person Dear Satish ji, My opinion is that this person cannot have happiness in marital life. I think we had discussed this earlier regarding quality, but this is a good chart to study the same. Yes here we need more events to confirm the birth time which you have not provided. Here in this chart, 6th lord is in 7th house and this is Mars. Mars is also Vakri and it has only 1 bindu. So it is going to spoil the 7th house matters and 12th house matters. This Mars is with Rahu spoiling it further making it more eccentric in nature and everything is enhanced due to Ma being Retro. Next, Ma is with 1 bindu and so many planets are in 7th from Ma and Ma has a dristi of 7 bindus on each planet spoiling them. So to get the quality of the planet we need to remove double the points given by 7th lord. However in our WS we are not adding the power of +7 as its 6th lord so we need to remove the power from the planet Mars aspects by -7 (one more time) to get proper value for Quality. So Ju, Me, Ve, and Mo are all in 7th from Ma. Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 15 18 16 18 13 18 21 Now we need to remove -7 from Mo, Me, Ju and Ve so the net power would become Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 15 11 16 11 6 11 21 Now for Sun, Mars is in Karak sthan so that will have its influence as well on it. Only Saturn has 21 points , but Sa itself is adding 18 points i.e. due to its aspect on ABC house and adding +6 each as Sa has 2 bindus. Otherwise the Basic power of Saturn is only 8 (A+B+C). The same goes for Sun as well. Sun itself has only 10 points as its own Basic strength and Sun itself is adding 5 points as it is in House E with 5 bindus. So from the above you can see that the quality for each planet is affected and spoilt. 6th lord is spoiling LoA, Houes B, LoD and LoE and LoB. Ma is also LoC. Ma aspects House A as well and is in House B. Careful study of Karak sthan and Karaks. Mo is FK and its spoilt by Ma and it is also in 12th from B. Ve is NK and it is spoilt by being in Aadra and its also spoilt by 6th lord so quality is spoilt. Karak sthan is also affected by 6th lord. Now, RK is Saturn and in Navamsa, in Karak sthan from Sa is Ma the 6th lord so that is one thing. Next, is that RK has 0 power in Karak sthan and itself is involved in Causing delay. The same with Guru. Guru is aspecting 7th house malefically and its with Karak Moon. This will cause delay as well. So, overall, on the surface all the points look more for 7th house but if you go into detail of quality, all the planets have less than 12 points. Only Sa and Sun have more and their own Basic power is less and for both the planets again, Karak sthan has 6th lord. The results of 7th house and 12th house are spoilt and Karak for 5th house for emotions is also Venus and that too is spoilt and so is mool karak sthan for 5th. So in this case, there is also a blessing but the blessing giving planet itself is causing delay. If you can give more events of this persons life, it will be great for learning. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of SPK Sunday March 22, 2009 7:08 PM astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyandtiming events] Chart of unmarried person Dear Ash, Anup, Guruji and list members I came across a chart of an individual who is unmarried at the age of 54. Please take a look and cooment on factors that may have led to this DOB, June 2, 1954 TOB : 8:20 AM POB, Ahamadnagar, 23N36, 72E57 The lagna degree would be 22 Gemini 24 The person is also not gainfully employed for past 4-5 years, just partime stints. Looking at the chart There is blessing in the chart. Venus sun distance is OK Venus is in Ardra ( A blemish) One zero in BAV of saturn ( Saturn in Root Karaka) There is full saturn delay ( However that got over long time agao) 6th lord is in the seventh house WS points for 7th house are >12 for all the planets WS points 5th are ok for 5 of the 7 planets WS points for 12th are < 12 for 4 of 7 planets. Many planets in the 1st house are aspected by 6th lord from the seventh house. I am not sure what can cause delay / denial of marriage. I do not have events in his life to verify the chart, Assuming it to be a correct chart( Lagna etc are not on boderline) could you please comment on the chart. Thanks Satish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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