Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Dear Anupji, If a chart shows that only one planet has less than 12 points in 6 of the twelve house charts, what is the general significance? Does it mean that this person has fewer obstacles or challenges? In the charts I have worked with to date, most have had many more planets with fewer than 12 points. How unusual would the above condition be? Have you ever seen a chart with NO planets with less than 12 points in ALL the house charts? Looking forward with interest to your reply, with all respect, Nelson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Dear Nelson, From your mails it seems you are really putting your sincere efforts learning KAS system.if i am understanding your mail correctly, your query is related to planet having less than 12 points in WS in 6 houses out of 12. Accordingly such planet during its antradasa will furnish an event as LoD/LoE no matter,it acquire less than 12 points in WS.The quality and quantum of result may not be upto the mark as compared to the event more than 12 points for different houses. Now you can presume its over all status in WS. For excercise purpose you can try this chart. 26th june1991 18.00pm 17N22 78E26 IST Only three houses are less than 12 points by two planets in WS. Best of luck Anup --- On Sat, 28/3/09, kenesawisland <14mileisland wrote: kenesawisland <14mileisland STRENGTH OF PLANETS IN HOUSE CHARTS Date: Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 7:29 PM Dear Anupji,If a chart shows that only one planet has less than 12 points in 6 of the twelve house charts, what is the general significance? Does it mean that this person has fewer obstacles or challenges? In the charts I have worked with to date, most have had many more planets with fewer than 12 points. How unusual would the above condition be? Have you ever seen a chart with NO planets with less than 12 points in ALL the house charts? Looking forward with interest to your reply,with all respect,Nelson Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Hello Nelson/Anup ji, I hope you wouldn't mind me sharing my thought on this in my attempt at learning KAS. Please correct me if I am wrong. My view on this topic is: As per KAS worksheet, chart with fewer points (less than 4) for SA/MA/JU (planets with 3 aspects) will aspect more houses benefically. Although this gives a feeling that the chart has better outlook due to many/all planets having 12 or more points points for many/all houses, as per the rule that " Debilitated Natural/Functional Karak spoils the results (leson 8 on Samdharmi planets) " , the low points for SA/MA/JU will also affect quality of the results for houses for which they stand as natural or functional karakas. Also one has to look at the total points in each house. In my view in such charts as above, you will see more houses with less than 28 points (generally every chart on average has 4-5 weak houses. The charts above will have 6-7 weak houses). As per my understanding, having more significating planets with 12 or more points only increase the probability of experiencing the results of houses in more antras; but the quality and strength of results matter more over quantity. e.g. 11th house of gain has many sublords with more than 12 points only provide more opportunities of gain but the quality of gain is dependent on the strength of 11th house itself. One person might win lottery 100 times but win only 10 dollars everytime and another person might win only once but wins 10000 dollars. That's my point. Please correct me if I am wrong. I have just started to learn and your adivce will only help me to learn better. Thanks Samir. , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Nelson, > > From your mails it seems you are really putting your sincere efforts > learning KAS system.if i am understanding your mail correctly, > your query is related to planet having less than 12 points in WS > in 6 houses out of 12. > > Accordingly such planet during its antradasa will furnish an event as LoD/LoE > no matter,it acquire less than 12 points in WS.The quality and quantum > of result may not be upto the mark as compared to the event more than > 12 points for different houses. > > Now you can presume its over all status in WS. > > For excercise purpose you can try this chart. > 26th june1991 18.00pm 17N22 78E26 IST > > Only three houses are less than 12 points by two planets in WS. > > Best of luck > Anup > > > > > > --- On Sat, 28/3/09, kenesawisland <14mileisland wrote: > > > kenesawisland <14mileisland > STRENGTH OF PLANETS IN HOUSE CHARTS > > Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 7:29 PM Dear Anupji, > > If a chart shows that only one planet has less than 12 points in 6 of the twelve house charts, what is the general significance? Does it mean that this person has fewer obstacles or challenges? In the charts I have worked with to date, most have had many more planets with fewer than 12 points. How unusual would the above condition be? Have you ever seen a chart with NO planets with less than 12 points in ALL the house charts? > > Looking forward with interest to your reply, > > with all respect, > > Nelson > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Dear Samir ji, Your observation is correct and your KAS learning is progressing like anything. SAV shows strength of houses and worsheet is meant for planet's strength and timing of event.Now computig these two,one can judge the things in quality and when these will take shapes. Say for example 4th house has more than 28 points in SAV and in worksheet most of the planets are giving less than 12 points for 4th house then such person can get a house but not a home. So Quality/quantum and timing of an event are two different things. Regards Anup --- On Mon, 30/3/09, kurlakid <kurlakid wrote: kurlakid <kurlakid Re: STRENGTH OF PLANETS IN HOUSE CHARTS Date: Monday, 30 March, 2009, 9:05 PM Hello Nelson/Anup ji,I hope you wouldn't mind me sharing my thought on this in my attempt at learning KAS. Please correct me if I am wrong.My view on this topic is:As per KAS worksheet, chart with fewer points (less than 4) for SA/MA/JU (planets with 3 aspects) will aspect more houses benefically.Although this gives a feeling that the chart has better outlook due to many/all planets having 12 or more points points for many/all houses, as per the rule that "Debilitated Natural/Functional Karak spoils the results (leson 8 on Samdharmi planets)", the low points for SA/MA/JU will also affect quality of the results for houses for which they stand as natural or functional karakas.Also one has to look at the total points in each house. In my view in such charts as above, you will see more houses with less than 28 points (generally every chart on average has 4-5 weak houses. The charts above will have 6-7 weak houses).As per my understanding, having more significating planets with 12 or more points only increase the probability of experiencing the results of houses in more antras; but the quality and strength of results matter more over quantity.e.g. 11th house of gain has many sublords with more than 12 points only provide more opportunities of gain but the quality of gain is dependent on the strength of 11th house itself. One person might win lottery 100 times but win only 10 dollars everytime and another person might win only once but wins 10000 dollars. That's my point.Please correct me if I am wrong.I have just started to learn and your adivce will only help me to learn better.ThanksSamir.astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Nelson,> > From your mails it seems you are really putting your sincere efforts > learning KAS system..if i am understanding your mail correctly,> your query is related to planet having less than 12 points in WS > in 6 houses out of 12.> > Accordingly such planet during its antradasa will furnish an event as LoD/LoE > no matter,it acquire less than 12 points in WS.The quality and quantum> of result may not be upto the mark as compared to the event more than> 12 points for different houses.> > Now you can presume its over all status in WS.> > For excercise purpose you can try this chart.> 26th june1991 18.00pm 17N22 78E26 IST> > Only three houses are less than 12 points by two planets in WS. > > Best of luck > Anup> > > > > > --- On Sat, 28/3/09, kenesawisland <14mileisland@ ...> wrote:> > > kenesawisland <14mileisland@ ...>> [astrologyandtiming events] STRENGTH OF PLANETS IN HOUSE CHARTS> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 7:29 PM> > > > > > > Dear Anupji,> > If a chart shows that only one planet has less than 12 points in 6 of the twelve house charts, what is the general significance? Does it mean that this person has fewer obstacles or challenges? In the charts I have worked with to date, most have had many more planets with fewer than 12 points. How unusual would the above condition be? Have you ever seen a chart with NO planets with less than 12 points in ALL the house charts? > > Looking forward with interest to your reply,> > with all respect,> > Nelson> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Dear Samir ji, One correction. The quality of the event is based on the Karak . So the quality of 11th house as per your example will depend on 6th lord and its status, Mercury and its status (FK and NK). As Anup ji has explained that Timing of the event you can pick the proper Significators from the WS but the quality of that is from the status of Karaks. Same thing we are doing when we judge marriage and the quality. For timing we are checking the WS for 7th house and related house for marriage, but for Quality of Marriage, we are checking the status of Venus which is NK and the status of 2nd lord and also of Guru who is Natural mool karak and also the 9th lord of the chart. So Timing of Event and Quality / Quantum are different things as Anup ji explained and its important to understand this BASIC. Just to hone in on the point lets take 2 planets Planet A and Planet B, each has a power of 13 and 15 in the 11th house, however, there is a possibility that the person might have higher income and will enjoy that more in the antra of planet A which has 13 points as compared to the one that has 15 points. In the antra of 15 points he might face more problems and might be unable to enjoy the 11th house matters. Yes, as far as timing of event goes, in both the antras he will get the TIMING OF EVENT. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of kurlakid Monday March 30, 2009 11:35 AM To: Subject: Re: STRENGTH OF PLANETS IN HOUSE CHARTS Hello Nelson/Anup ji, I hope you wouldn't mind me sharing my thought on this in my attempt at learning KAS. Please correct me if I am wrong. My view on this topic is: As per KAS worksheet, chart with fewer points (less than 4) for SA/MA/JU (planets with 3 aspects) will aspect more houses benefically. Although this gives a feeling that the chart has better outlook due to many/all planets having 12 or more points points for many/all houses, as per the rule that " Debilitated Natural/Functional Karak spoils the results (leson 8 on Samdharmi planets) " , the low points for SA/MA/JU will also affect quality of the results for houses for which they stand as natural or functional karakas. Also one has to look at the total points in each house. In my view in such charts as above, you will see more houses with less than 28 points (generally every chart on average has 4-5 weak houses. The charts above will have 6-7 weak houses). As per my understanding, having more significating planets with 12 or more points only increase the probability of experiencing the results of houses in more antras; but the quality and strength of results matter more over quantity. e.g. 11th house of gain has many sublords with more than 12 points only provide more opportunities of gain but the quality of gain is dependent on the strength of 11th house itself. One person might win lottery 100 times but win only 10 dollars everytime and another person might win only once but wins 10000 dollars. That's my point. Please correct me if I am wrong. I have just started to learn and your adivce will only help me to learn better. Thanks Samir. , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Nelson, > > From your mails it seems you are really putting your sincere efforts > learning KAS system.if i am understanding your mail correctly, > your query is related to planet having less than 12 points in WS > in 6 houses out of 12. > > Accordingly such planet during its antradasa will furnish an event as LoD/LoE > no matter,it acquire less than 12 points in WS.The quality and quantum > of result may not be upto the mark as compared to the event more than > 12 points for different houses. > > Now you can presume its over all status in WS. > > For excercise purpose you can try this chart. > 26th june1991 18.00pm 17N22 78E26 IST > > Only three houses are less than 12 points by two planets in WS. > > Best of luck > Anup > > > > > > --- On Sat, 28/3/09, kenesawisland <14mileisland wrote: > > > kenesawisland <14mileisland > STRENGTH OF PLANETS IN HOUSE CHARTS > > Saturday, 28 March, 2009, 7:29 PM > > > > > > > Dear Anupji, > > If a chart shows that only one planet has less than 12 points in 6 of the twelve house charts, what is the general significance? Does it mean that this person has fewer obstacles or challenges? In the charts I have worked with to date, most have had many more planets with fewer than 12 points. How unusual would the above condition be? Have you ever seen a chart with NO planets with less than 12 points in ALL the house charts? > > Looking forward with interest to your reply, > > with all respect, > > Nelson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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