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Dear Anupji, Ash ji,

 

I am studying charts for progeny prospect of my neighbours for this year.

 

Male Chart: 02-Aug-1972 18:10hrs Mumbai (18N58 72E50 IST -5:30 No DST)

Female Chart: 15-Jan-1973 20:15hrs Mumbai (18N58 72E50 IST -5:30 No DST)

 

My analysis:-

Female Chart: KE Antra. KE in navamsha of VE. VE is highest significator for

11th house (LoE for 11th House). So it is very much possible for Female.

 

Male Chart: JU Antra. JU is FK for 5th House. But I can't see any LoD/LoE or any

other SD relation occuring with 5 house signification.

JU is in Transit in Asc and aspecting 5th house. JU has 12 points in 5th house

sigificators. Can JU transit in JU antra be considered to support the results?

 

The couple is trying for a child for some time.

They are also looking into IVF treatment.

Do you think they have a chance this year due to JU Transit on Male chart?

 

Thanks

Samir.

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Dear Samir ji

In the chart for both husband and wife the Lagna is on the border especiaaly in

case of wife's chart. Could you please give some events to verify the

correctness of birth time. For your reference to study difficulty in child birth

I am giving these 2 points from the archives.

** In a female chart, Mars afflicting the 11th, by its situation in 11th, 8th

and 4th is bad for childbirth. The rahu at the same time should afflict 11th

house or it's lord, for female chart. Similar result if it afflicts (with Rahu)

the lord of 11th house for female chart.

** In a male chart, Mars (with Rahu) afflicting the 5th, by situating in 5th,

2nd and 10th is bad for childbirth. In this case again Rahu should afflict 5th

lord or house.

Thanks

Prabha

, " kurlakid " <kurlakid

wrote:

>

> Dear Anupji, Ash ji,

>

> I am studying charts for progeny prospect of my neighbours for this year.

>

> Male Chart: 02-Aug-1972 18:10hrs Mumbai (18N58 72E50 IST -5:30 No DST)

> Female Chart: 15-Jan-1973 20:15hrs Mumbai (18N58 72E50 IST -5:30 No DST)

>

> My analysis:-

> Female Chart: KE Antra. KE in navamsha of VE. VE is highest significator for

11th house (LoE for 11th House). So it is very much possible for Female.

>

> Male Chart: JU Antra. JU is FK for 5th House. But I can't see any LoD/LoE or

any other SD relation occuring with 5 house signification.

> JU is in Transit in Asc and aspecting 5th house. JU has 12 points in 5th house

sigificators. Can JU transit in JU antra be considered to support the results?

>

> The couple is trying for a child for some time.

> They are also looking into IVF treatment.

> Do you think they have a chance this year due to JU Transit on Male chart?

>

> Thanks

> Samir.

>

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Dear Prabhaji/Anupji/Ashji,

 

I noticed that the Asc for Female chart is on the border and chaneges to Leo if

the TOB is 5 minutes later. Although the chart with Leo asc does not seem to fit

this person. She is not career oriented or ambitious person as the chart with

TOB as 20:20hrs would indicate. She is more homely and happy and content in

small things sort of a person. Her current chart gives her 40 points in 4th

house of happiness whereas in Leo Asc chart she gets these 40 points in 3rd

house and she is not a adventurous/courageous or writer sort of person. Also

current chart has 27 points in 10th and 32 in 11th which seems to suit her life.

She hasn't ambitiously folloed her career and she still has comforts in life

through her husband's support. She does not have work hard at ll for living. SHe

is a housewife and husband is doing well in his career. With Leo asc, she gets

31in 10th house and 24 in 11th. DOes not suit her life.

 

Following are the events in Female chart:

19-Feb-2000: Marriage

May-1993: Bachelor's Degree

Sept-1995: First salried job

Jan 1999: Travelled abroad first time

Jul 2002: Moved to UK for settlement and now settled in UK.

Both parent alive and healthy

 

For male's chart, the timing is pretty accurate and again his life does not look

like a person with Retrograded JU in Mooltrikona in Ascendant.

Following are the events in Male chart:

19-Feb-2000: Marriage

Sept-1996: Left India for job abroad

May-1995: Bacjelor's degree.

Both parent alive and healthy

 

Thanks

Samir.

, " prabha.acharya "

<prabha.acharya wrote:

>

>

> Dear Samir ji

> In the chart for both husband and wife the Lagna is on the border especiaaly

in case of wife's chart. Could you please give some events to verify the

correctness of birth time. For your reference to study difficulty in child birth

I am giving these 2 points from the archives.

> ** In a female chart, Mars afflicting the 11th, by its situation in 11th, 8th

and 4th is bad for childbirth. The rahu at the same time should afflict 11th

house or it's lord, for female chart. Similar result if it afflicts (with Rahu)

the lord of 11th house for female chart.

> ** In a male chart, Mars (with Rahu) afflicting the 5th, by situating in 5th,

2nd and 10th is bad for childbirth. In this case again Rahu should afflict 5th

lord or house.

> Thanks

> Prabha

> , " kurlakid " <kurlakid@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Anupji, Ash ji,

> >

> > I am studying charts for progeny prospect of my neighbours for this year.

> >

> > Male Chart: 02-Aug-1972 18:10hrs Mumbai (18N58 72E50 IST -5:30 No DST)

> > Female Chart: 15-Jan-1973 20:15hrs Mumbai (18N58 72E50 IST -5:30 No DST)

> >

> > My analysis:-

> > Female Chart: KE Antra. KE in navamsha of VE. VE is highest significator for

11th house (LoE for 11th House). So it is very much possible for Female.

> >

> > Male Chart: JU Antra. JU is FK for 5th House. But I can't see any LoD/LoE or

any other SD relation occuring with 5 house signification.

> > JU is in Transit in Asc and aspecting 5th house. JU has 12 points in 5th

house sigificators. Can JU transit in JU antra be considered to support the

results?

> >

> > The couple is trying for a child for some time.

> > They are also looking into IVF treatment.

> > Do you think they have a chance this year due to JU Transit on Male chart?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Samir.

> >

>

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Dear Prabhaji/Anupji/Ashji,

I hope I can give some insight in this analysis.

 

My main questions are:

1. If the Antra lord JU is not the strongest significator (has 12 or points) for

5th house in Male chart; but it is NK & FK for 5th house and in Transit

aspecting 5th house will it deliver the results?

 

2. Is it correct to see 11th house signification for Child Birth in female

chart. I read this somewehere on the forum. Didn't actually see it lessons.

 

3. Would you kindly look at the charts and my analysis in my first message below

and give your insight on whether this couple has chance of conceiving this year?

From my analysis as a student, I think yes but I have doubts on JU antra/transit

in Male chart for which I have asked the question above.

 

Hoping to learn

Thanks

Samir

 

, " kurlakid " <kurlakid

wrote:

>

> Dear Prabhaji/Anupji/Ashji,

>

> I noticed that the Asc for Female chart is on the border and chaneges to Leo

if the TOB is 5 minutes later. Although the chart with Leo asc does not seem to

fit this person. She is not career oriented or ambitious person as the chart

with TOB as 20:20hrs would indicate. She is more homely and happy and content in

small things sort of a person. Her current chart gives her 40 points in 4th

house of happiness whereas in Leo Asc chart she gets these 40 points in 3rd

house and she is not a adventurous/courageous or writer sort of person. Also

current chart has 27 points in 10th and 32 in 11th which seems to suit her life.

She hasn't ambitiously folloed her career and she still has comforts in life

through her husband's support. She does not have work hard at ll for living. SHe

is a housewife and husband is doing well in his career. With Leo asc, she gets

31in 10th house and 24 in 11th. DOes not suit her life.

>

> Following are the events in Female chart:

> 19-Feb-2000: Marriage

> May-1993: Bachelor's Degree

> Sept-1995: First salried job

> Jan 1999: Travelled abroad first time

> Jul 2002: Moved to UK for settlement and now settled in UK.

> Both parent alive and healthy

>

> For male's chart, the timing is pretty accurate and again his life does not

look like a person with Retrograded JU in Mooltrikona in Ascendant.

> Following are the events in Male chart:

> 19-Feb-2000: Marriage

> Sept-1996: Left India for job abroad

> May-1995: Bacjelor's degree.

> Both parent alive and healthy

>

> Thanks

> Samir.

> , " prabha.acharya "

<prabha.acharya@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Samir ji

> > In the chart for both husband and wife the Lagna is on the border especiaaly

in case of wife's chart. Could you please give some events to verify the

correctness of birth time. For your reference to study difficulty in child birth

I am giving these 2 points from the archives.

> > ** In a female chart, Mars afflicting the 11th, by its situation in 11th,

8th and 4th is bad for childbirth. The rahu at the same time should afflict 11th

house or it's lord, for female chart. Similar result if it afflicts (with Rahu)

the lord of 11th house for female chart.

> > ** In a male chart, Mars (with Rahu) afflicting the 5th, by situating in

5th, 2nd and 10th is bad for childbirth. In this case again Rahu should afflict

5th lord or house.

> > Thanks

> > Prabha

> > , " kurlakid " <kurlakid@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Anupji, Ash ji,

> > >

> > > I am studying charts for progeny prospect of my neighbours for this year.

> > >

> > > Male Chart: 02-Aug-1972 18:10hrs Mumbai (18N58 72E50 IST -5:30 No DST)

> > > Female Chart: 15-Jan-1973 20:15hrs Mumbai (18N58 72E50 IST -5:30 No DST)

> > >

> > > My analysis:-

> > > Female Chart: KE Antra. KE in navamsha of VE. VE is highest significator

for 11th house (LoE for 11th House). So it is very much possible for Female.

> > >

> > > Male Chart: JU Antra. JU is FK for 5th House. But I can't see any LoD/LoE

or any other SD relation occuring with 5 house signification.

> > > JU is in Transit in Asc and aspecting 5th house. JU has 12 points in 5th

house sigificators. Can JU transit in JU antra be considered to support the

results?

> > >

> > > The couple is trying for a child for some time.

> > > They are also looking into IVF treatment.

> > > Do you think they have a chance this year due to JU Transit on Male chart?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Samir.

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Samir ji,

 

 

In your query,Jup is antra lord and has less than 12 points.

 

Here we have to look into whether Jup or its samdharmi has status

of LoD or LOE to activate the event for 5th house.If yes,then you can

fine tune the related things to drill down to the event.So event will happen

though Jup is weak here,but depending upon the health of karaka and RK.

 

 

NK and FK are observed for quality factor and not for timing of event.

NK and FK control the status house B.If these are extremely spoiled

by malefics,or by some other reason then the loD or LoE can lose their

power to furnish the event

 

In KAS,we consider the transit of SUN only in the strongest sign/nakshtra

to fix the timing of event and not of any other planet.

 

 

Regarding your second question,11th house is taken as house B for a

female chart.So that is correct.5th house should also be considered

along with 11th for better reasonsing.

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 25/4/09, kurlakid <kurlakid wrote:

kurlakid <kurlakid Re: Progeny chance Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2009, 12:56 PM

 

 

Dear Prabhaji/Anupji/ Ashji,I hope I can give some insight in this analysis.My main questions are:1. If the Antra lord JU is not the strongest significator (has 12 or points) for 5th house in Male chart; but it is NK & FK for 5th house and in Transit aspecting 5th house will it deliver the results?2. Is it correct to see 11th house signification for Child Birth in female chart. I read this somewehere on the forum. Didn't actually see it lessons.3. Would you kindly look at the charts and my analysis in my first message below and give your insight on whether this couple has chance of conceiving this year? From my analysis as a student, I think yes but I have doubts on JU antra/transit in Male chart for which I have asked the question above.Hoping to learnThanksSamirastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "kurlakid" <kurlakid .> wrote:>> Dear Prabhaji/Anupji/ Ashji,> > I noticed that the Asc for Female chart is on the border and chaneges to Leo if the TOB is 5 minutes later. Although the chart with Leo asc does not seem to fit this person. She is not career oriented or ambitious person as the chart with TOB as 20:20hrs would indicate. She is more homely and happy and content in small things sort of a person. Her current chart gives her 40 points in 4th house of happiness whereas in Leo Asc chart she gets these 40 points in 3rd house and she is not a adventurous/ courageous or writer sort of person. Also current chart has 27 points in 10th and 32 in 11th which seems to suit her life. She hasn't ambitiously folloed her career and she still has comforts in life through her husband's support. She does

not have work hard at ll for living. SHe is a housewife and husband is doing well in his career. With Leo asc, she gets 31in 10th house and 24 in 11th. DOes not suit her life.> > Following are the events in Female chart:> 19-Feb-2000: Marriage> May-1993: Bachelor's Degree> Sept-1995: First salried job> Jan 1999: Travelled abroad first time> Jul 2002: Moved to UK for settlement and now settled in UK.> Both parent alive and healthy> > For male's chart, the timing is pretty accurate and again his life does not look like a person with Retrograded JU in Mooltrikona in Ascendant.> Following are the events in Male chart:> 19-Feb-2000: Marriage> Sept-1996: Left India for job abroad> May-1995: Bacjelor's degree.> Both parent alive and healthy> > Thanks> Samir.> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "prabha.acharya" <prabha.acharya@ > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Samir ji> > In the chart for both husband and wife the Lagna is on the border especiaaly in case of wife's chart. Could you please give some events to verify the correctness of birth time. For your reference to study difficulty in child birth I am giving these 2 points from the archives.> > ** In a female chart, Mars afflicting the 11th, by its situation in 11th, 8th and 4th is bad for childbirth. The rahu at the same time should afflict 11th house or it's lord, for female chart. Similar result if it afflicts (with Rahu) the lord of 11th house for female chart.> > ** In a male chart, Mars (with Rahu)

afflicting the 5th, by situating in 5th, 2nd and 10th is bad for childbirth. In this case again Rahu should afflict 5th lord or house.> > Thanks> > Prabha> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "kurlakid" <kurlakid@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Anupji, Ash ji,> > > > > > I am studying charts for progeny prospect of my neighbours for this year.> > > > > > Male Chart: 02-Aug-1972 18:10hrs Mumbai (18N58 72E50 IST -5:30 No DST)> > > Female Chart: 15-Jan-1973 20:15hrs Mumbai (18N58 72E50 IST -5:30 No DST)> > > > > > My analysis:-> > > Female Chart: KE Antra. KE in navamsha of VE. VE is highest

significator for 11th house (LoE for 11th House). So it is very much possible for Female.> > > > > > Male Chart: JU Antra. JU is FK for 5th House. But I can't see any LoD/LoE or any other SD relation occuring with 5 house signification.> > > JU is in Transit in Asc and aspecting 5th house. JU has 12 points in 5th house sigificators. Can JU transit in JU antra be considered to support the results?> > > > > > The couple is trying for a child for some time.> > > They are also looking into IVF treatment.> > > Do you think they have a chance this year due to JU Transit on Male chart?> > > > > > Thanks> > > Samir.> > >> >>

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