Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji and Respected group Members, I am having a little difficulty understanding some SD points such as 4:10. I would like to make sure I understand. If two planets are 4:10 apart it is important for the planet that is in the 4th position to have more than 4 bindus and the planet in the 10th position to have less than four bindus. If the planet in the 10th position has more than 4 bindus and the planet in 4th position has less than 4 bindus then the planet in the 10th position could act adversely for the 4th position planet?? What if both planets have the same amount of bindus like 5/5?? I am looking through archives when I can, to find the understanding of how 4:10 planets will work to give results, but I have not found one yet at least that explain these points yet. Thank You, Shalini , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Prabha ji, > > For represent, we are checking the sign lord and nakshatra lord and then > finding out who it is more like. So it will act as per the points in the > WS. Whereas for samdharmi, we are not checking the points. That is as per > the laws of samdharmi i.e. same sign, same nakshatra, same navamsa, navamsa > lord and 4:10. > > There are Grades of samdharmi ship, like 4:10 is very powerful, planets in > same sign AND same nakshatra AND same navamsa (mostly when planets are close > to each other conjoined in less than 3deg20 in vicinity) then those are more > powerful as compared to if the planets had only conjoined in navamsa but > they are in same exact 5:9 in Rasi. So like that we can distinguish. > > Whereas for representation, we are using the SAV power to find out who Ra or > Ke represent more like i.e. sign lord of navamsa lord and then it will give > the result as per the WS points. > > So I hope this is clear. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of > prabha.acharya > Wednesday April 15, 2009 2:22 AM > > Re: Delay in marriage > > > > > > Respected Ash ji, > If Ra is SD to Ve and Ma, does that mean during Ve or Ma antra the native > may get affected by the placement and quality of Rahu. > Could you please explain the difference of " represent " and SD with respect > to Ra/Ke? > Thanks > Prabha > > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > Mo can replace Ju as Mo is in navamsa of Sag. IF NSD's oppose each other > in > > Rasi or Navamsa then they cease to be NSD. > > > > Rahu will be SD to Ve as its in navamsa of Venus and also to Mars as it > > conjoins Mars in NAVASMA. > > > > Ketu will be SD to Mars as its in navamsa of Sco and also to Mercury as it > > conjoins it in NAVAMSA. > > > > Rahu and Ketu REPRESENT the sign lord and Nakshatra lord in Rasi. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > <%40> > > [ > <%40> ] On Behalf Of Anup. M > > Tuesday April 14, 2009 10:57 PM > > > <%40> > > Re: Re: Delay in marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > > > > You can find a detailed explanation on this topic in KAS Visuals on > > Donna's site. > > > > This has been also discussed many times in the past and you can > > go through the archives for these. > > > > Obviosuly,all is related to timing of an event. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 15/4/09, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@> wrote: > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@> > > Re: Delay in marriage > > > <%40> > > Wednesday, 15 April, 2009, 8:00 AM > > Dear Anup ji > > Could you please answer these doubts > > 1. When we consider which planet RA/Ke will behave like do we consider > rashi > > lord, nakshatra lord, navamsha lord, planets conjoined in navamsha. > > 2. Ra/Ke will behave more like the rashi lord or nakshatra lord who so > ever > > has highest points [ as mentioned in Donna's site] > > 3. Ra/Ke will be SD to the planets mentioned in Step 1, only for timing > > events > > > > Thanks > > Prabha > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40yah > > oogroups.com> , " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji and Shalini ji, > > > > > > > > > Another correction is needed while prabha ji explained this concept of > > > samdharmi related to this particular chart > > > > > > Venus here will not be samdharmi to Mars,Jup and Sat. > > > We should not confuse " opposition " factor with samdharmi law. > > > > > > > > > Also Rahu will be SD to Venus as Rahu is in Ven navamsa. > > > Please note Rahu and Ketu are Samdharmi to the sign lord of the > > > Navamsa and any planets they might be conjoined with there. > > > > > > > > > Again Moon will not be SD to Jup for the reason that Jup is opposiing > > > Moon in navamsa irrespect Moon is in Sagg navamsa. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 14/4/09, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40yah > > oogroups.com> > > > Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 8:11 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > Most of the points are correct and my answers given below with ** > > > > > > >> Yes Anup Ji, it seems I made confusion with Samdharmi. Just to be > clear > > for this chart in rashi Venus has 6 bindus and therefore, cannot be > > Samdharmi to Mars (6) Jupiter (4) Saturn (3), would this be correct? Also, > > Mercury has 8 bindus and Moon has 5 binuds therefore, even these two > cannot > > be samdharmi, I believe. > > > ** Ve will be SD to Ma, Ju, Sa but since it is with 6 point it will act > as > > a subordinate who will not listen to his boss meaning Ve will act against > > whatever Ma, Ju, Sa represent. Ve will try to create obstacle or behave > > opposite to the Karakatwa of these 3 planets > > > Similar can be said of Me opposing Karakatwa of Mo. > > > > > > >> Now, Mars and Jupiter share the same star so they are SD and these > two > > share the same sign with Saturn so this make all three SD to each other? > > > ** Yes true > > > > > > >> Rahu is SD to Sun, Mars (ketu's Star, but is also conjoined Mars in > > D-9),Saturn (ketu sign?) and Venus, would this be correct? > > > ** Ra is not SD to Navamsha Lord. In this case it will be SD to Su, Ma, > Sa > > only. NOT Ve. And it will act more as Ma since Ma is having 6 points in > 11th > > house where Ra is situated. [ Sa is with 3, and Su is with 5 points in > 11th > > house] > > > > > > > Ketu is SD to Saturn, Mars and Mercury. > > > ** Similarly Ke is NOT SD to Me > > > > > > > In D-9; Sun is SD to Mercury and Jupiter, Moon is SD to Jupiter and > > Saturn, Mars is SD to Venus and Rahu, Venus is SD to Moon, and Mercury is > SD > > to Mars and Ketu? > > > ** Su is SD to Me, Ju; Mo is SD to Ju, Sa; > > > Ma is SD to Ju, Sa {Being in conjunction in Rashi chart], Ve [Navamsha > > Lord] > > > Ve is SD to Mo. [Other SD's explained above] > > > Me is SD to Ma. [Other SD explained above] > > > In case of Ma and Me they cannot be SD to Ra/Ke as Ra and Ke do not own > > any houses. Ra/Ke is SD to some planet but a planet cannot be SD to Ra/Ke. > > That means Ra/Ke can represent some planet but planets cannot represent > > Ra/Ke. > > > > > > >> Now when we overlap the D-1 and D-9 charts we find Moon (5)in Gemini > in > > D-1 and Jupiter(4)/Sun( 6) in Gemini in D-9, > > > ** Why are you overlapping the D1 and D9 charts. > > > > > > >>I am shaky on how SD will work for whom in this case, please help me > > understand. Thank You. > > > >> Shalini > > > > > > I request Seniors to Please correct me if I have made any mistakes > above. > > > Thanks > > > Prabha > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > > > > > > > Good analysis. > > > > > You are on the right track,no doubt. > > > > > > > > > > Let me correct you somewhere you are confused of samdharmi concept. > > > > > > > > > > Moon is not SD to Mer here. > > > > > Mer is not SD to Jup,6th lord in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > In rasi we do not consider any planet samdharmi to sign lord,it is > > situated in. > > > > > This we consider only for navamsa only. > > > > > > > > > > Only Rahu and Ketu can be samdharmi to sign and nakshatra lord of > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > These are basics and should be practised thoroughly. > > > > > So you reached upto antra level,thats showing your hard work and > > > > > dedication for this system,no matter you are wrong or right. > > > > > > > > > > Keep it up. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 13/4/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@ > > > > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > Monday, 13 April, 2009, 5:02 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup Ji, Ash Ji, Prabha Ji, Group, > > > > > > > > > > Here is my assessment, I am getting Lagana 19.58 Libra. > > > > > > > > > > Lg/7l=Ve/Ma= 4/10 (d-1) 3/11 (d-9) > > > > > Mo/7l=Me/Ju= 6/8 (d-1) 6/8 (d-9) > > > > > Su/7l=Ma/Ve= 4/10 (d-1) 6/8 (d-9) > > > > > total is 20 points less the 50 so marriage could have difficulties. > > > > > Lagna points equal 25 and seventh equals 25. It seems they may both > be > > low key individuals not very ego, however may not have much self > confidence > > (would this be correct), the individual is smart and this intelligence is > > coupled with wisdom. The individual may think things through carefully > > before acting upon them and the results could be well planed out and be > > good. > > > > > > > > > > Nk= Venus > > > > > NRK=Jupiter= 6L > > > > > FK=Ma is SD to 6L > > > > > RK=Me is SD to 6L > > > > > There could be a possibility of a break? > > > > > > > > > > It seems there was full Saturn Delay and Jupiter Delay is present; > > Jupiter is in house C and aspects house B (however, Jupiter is with A,B > lord > > Mars so I am not sure if this moderates delay),Jupiter delay is over when > > Jupiter passes over 7H or 7L. Jupiters transit into Aquarius will aspect > 7L > > Mars. There is one zero due to Saturn in 12h in SAV as per lesson 31, " c) > > If, however, there is one zero in the SAV table, then the delay will take > > place in the second part of the antar dasa of the Lord of D only. " > > > > > > > > > > I think event can take place in Jupiter-Moon after delays are over. > > Moon though has low points in SAV, however Moon is SD to Mercury who is > LoE > > with 13 points in SAV and is in HA (Sco)in D-9, Moon is also SD to Saturn > > who is LoD and has 14 points. > > > > > Since, the marriage points equal 20 and 6L being SD to the FK, RK, > NRK > > marriage can happen in Moon antara even with low points is SD to LoE and > LoD > > therefore, eager to give results. > > > > > I think second sector of Jupiter-Moon dasa 9/25/09-3/06/ 10 can give > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am at least on track and not so off the mark with my > > assessment, if so I look forward to the guidance of all members. > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > Shalini > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. 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Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Dear Shalini ji, Planets in 4:10 means they can help each other whenever needed.So they can exchange their influence and replace each other as per their relative placement. 10th place is of boss and 4th place from it is of subordinate.Keep this in mind while understanding the basic concept. Now if a planet is with less than 4 bindus,so it becomes malefic mean a "strict" planet and if a planet is with more than 4 bindus then it can be called a benefic,means noble planet. So computing these all,if Boss is strict (with less than 4 bindus) thenplanet in 4th place as subordinates will have to obey the boss.This implies that planet in 4th place will give its power to the planet in 10th place (boss). Basically,the planet A in 10th place with less than 4 bindus willcontrol the planet B in 4th place with more than 4 bindus. Here Planet B will be SD to planet A. Again as per your query if both the planets are with 5 bindus eachand are in 4:10,they will oppose each other whenever they will get a chance. I do not want to go in detail but surely you go slowly grasping thissamdharmi concept and make an understanding while appplying this onvarious charts. RegardsAnup --- On Wed, 22/4/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004 wrote: shalini3004 <shalini3004 Re: Delay in marriage; SD Revisited Date: Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 4:25 AM Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji and Respected group Members,I am having a little difficulty understanding some SD points such as 4:10. I would like to make sure I understand. If two planets are 4:10 apart it is important for the planet that is in the 4th position to have more than 4 bindus and the planet in the 10th position to have less than four bindus. If the planet in the 10th position has more than 4 bindus and the planet in 4th position has less than 4 bindus then the planet in the 10th position could act adversely for the 4th position planet??What if both planets have the same amount of bindus like 5/5?? I am looking through archives when I can, to find the understanding of how 4:10 planets will work to give results, but I have not found one yet at least that explain these points yet. Thank You,Shaliniastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear Prabha ji,> > For represent, we are checking the sign lord and nakshatra lord and then> finding out who it is more like. So it will act as per the points in the> WS. Whereas for samdharmi, we are not checking the points. That is as per> the laws of samdharmi i.e. same sign, same nakshatra, same navamsa, navamsa> lord and 4:10.> > There are Grades of samdharmi ship, like 4:10 is very powerful, planets in> same sign AND same nakshatra AND same navamsa (mostly when planets are close> to each other conjoined in less than 3deg20 in vicinity) then those are more> powerful as compared to if the planets had only conjoined in navamsa but> they are in same exact 5:9 in Rasi. So like that we can distinguish.> > Whereas for representation, we are using the SAV power to find out who Ra or> Ke represent more like i.e. sign lord of navamsa lord and then it will give> the result as per the WS points.> > So I hope this is clear. > > Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of> prabha.acharya> Wednesday April 15, 2009 2:22 AM> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage> > > > > > Respected Ash ji,> If Ra is SD to Ve and Ma, does that mean during Ve or Ma antra the native> may get affected by the placement and quality of Rahu.> Could you please explain the difference of "represent" and SD with respect> to Ra/Ke?> Thanks> Prabha> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "Ash's Corner@"> <kas@> wrote:> >> > Dear Anup ji,> > > > Mo can replace Ju as Mo is in navamsa of Sag. IF NSD's oppose each other> in> > Rasi or Navamsa then they cease to be NSD.> > > > Rahu will be SD to Ve as its in navamsa of Venus and also to Mars as it> > conjoins Mars in NAVASMA.> > > > Ketu will be SD to Mars as its in navamsa of Sco and also to Mercury as it> > conjoins it in NAVAMSA.> > > > Rahu and Ketu REPRESENT the sign lord and Nakshatra lord in Rasi. > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> ] On Behalf Of Anup. M> > Tuesday April 14, 2009 10:57 PM> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji,> > > > You can find a detailed explanation on this topic in KAS Visuals on> > Donna's site.> > > > This has been also discussed many times in the past and you can> > go through the archives for these.> > > > Obviosuly,all is related to timing of an event.> > > > Regards> > Anup > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 15/4/09, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ > wrote:> > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ >> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> > > Wednesday, 15 April, 2009, 8:00 AM> > Dear Anup ji> > Could you please answer these doubts> > 1. When we consider which planet RA/Ke will behave like do we consider> rashi> > lord, nakshatra lord, navamsha lord, planets conjoined in navamsha.> > 2. Ra/Ke will behave more like the rashi lord or nakshatra lord who so> ever> > has highest points [ as mentioned in Donna's site]> > 3. Ra/Ke will be SD to the planets mentioned in Step 1, only for timing> > events> > > > Thanks> > Prabha> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> >> <http://in.mc948. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=astrologyandt imingevents% 40yah> > oogroups.com> , "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Prabha ji and Shalini ji,> > > > > > > > > Another correction is needed while prabha ji explained this concept of> > > samdharmi related to this particular chart> > > > > > Venus here will not be samdharmi to Mars,Jup and Sat.> > > We should not confuse "opposition" factor with samdharmi law.> > > > > > > > > Also Rahu will be SD to Venus as Rahu is in Ven navamsa. > > > Please note Rahu and Ketu are Samdharmi to the sign lord of the> > > Navamsa and any planets they might be conjoined with there.> > > > > > > > > Again Moon will not be SD to Jup for the reason that Jup is opposiing> > > Moon in navamsa irrespect Moon is in Sagg navamsa.> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 14/4/09, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...>> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> >> <http://in.mc948. mail... com/mc/compose? to=astrologyandt imingevents% 40yah> > oogroups.com> > > > Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 8:11 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji,> > > Most of the points are correct and my answers given below with **> > > > > > >> Yes Anup Ji, it seems I made confusion with Samdharmi. Just to be> clear> > for this chart in rashi Venus has 6 bindus and therefore, cannot be> > Samdharmi to Mars (6) Jupiter (4) Saturn (3), would this be correct? Also,> > Mercury has 8 bindus and Moon has 5 binuds therefore, even these two> cannot> > be samdharmi, I believe. > > > ** Ve will be SD to Ma, Ju, Sa but since it is with 6 point it will act> as> > a subordinate who will not listen to his boss meaning Ve will act against> > whatever Ma, Ju, Sa represent. Ve will try to create obstacle or behave> > opposite to the Karakatwa of these 3 planets > > > Similar can be said of Me opposing Karakatwa of Mo.> > > > > > >> Now, Mars and Jupiter share the same star so they are SD and these> two> > share the same sign with Saturn so this make all three SD to each other?> > > ** Yes true> > > > > > >> Rahu is SD to Sun, Mars (ketu's Star, but is also conjoined Mars in> > D-9),Saturn (ketu sign?) and Venus, would this be correct?> > > ** Ra is not SD to Navamsha Lord. In this case it will be SD to Su, Ma,> Sa> > only. NOT Ve. And it will act more as Ma since Ma is having 6 points in> 11th> > house where Ra is situated. [ Sa is with 3, and Su is with 5 points in> 11th> > house]> > > > > > > Ketu is SD to Saturn, Mars and Mercury.> > > ** Similarly Ke is NOT SD to Me> > > > > > > In D-9; Sun is SD to Mercury and Jupiter, Moon is SD to Jupiter and> > Saturn, Mars is SD to Venus and Rahu, Venus is SD to Moon, and Mercury is> SD> > to Mars and Ketu?> > > ** Su is SD to Me, Ju; Mo is SD to Ju, Sa; > > > Ma is SD to Ju, Sa {Being in conjunction in Rashi chart], Ve [Navamsha> > Lord]> > > Ve is SD to Mo. [Other SD's explained above]> > > Me is SD to Ma. [Other SD explained above]> > > In case of Ma and Me they cannot be SD to Ra/Ke as Ra and Ke do not own> > any houses. Ra/Ke is SD to some planet but a planet cannot be SD to Ra/Ke.> > That means Ra/Ke can represent some planet but planets cannot represent> > Ra/Ke.> > > > > > >> Now when we overlap the D-1 and D-9 charts we find Moon (5)in Gemini> in> > D-1 and Jupiter(4)/Sun( 6) in Gemini in D-9,> > > ** Why are you overlapping the D1 and D9 charts. > > > > > > >>I am shaky on how SD will work for whom in this case, please help me> > understand. Thank You.> > > >> Shalini > > > > > > I request Seniors to Please correct me if I have made any mistakes> above.> > > Thanks> > > Prabha> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1@>> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shalini ji,> > > > > > > > > > Good analysis.> > > > > You are on the right track,no doubt.> > > > > > > > > > Let me correct you somewhere you are confused of samdharmi concept.> > > > > > > > > > Moon is not SD to Mer here.> > > > > Mer is not SD to Jup,6th lord in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > In rasi we do not consider any planet samdharmi to sign lord,it is> > situated in.> > > > > This we consider only for navamsa only.> > > > > > > > > > Only Rahu and Ketu can be samdharmi to sign and nakshatra lord of> > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > These are basics and should be practised thoroughly. > > > > > So you reached upto antra level,thats showing your hard work and> > > > > dedication for this system,no matter you are wrong or right.> > > > > > > > > > Keep it up.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 13/4/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@ >> > > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > > > Monday, 13 April, 2009, 5:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup Ji, Ash Ji, Prabha Ji, Group,> > > > > > > > > > Here is my assessment, I am getting Lagana 19.58 Libra.> > > > > > > > > > Lg/7l=Ve/Ma= 4/10 (d-1) 3/11 (d-9)> > > > > Mo/7l=Me/Ju= 6/8 (d-1) 6/8 (d-9)> > > > > Su/7l=Ma/Ve= 4/10 (d-1) 6/8 (d-9)> > > > > total is 20 points less the 50 so marriage could have difficulties. > > > > > Lagna points equal 25 and seventh equals 25. It seems they may both> be> > low key individuals not very ego, however may not have much self> confidence> > (would this be correct), the individual is smart and this intelligence is> > coupled with wisdom. The individual may think things through carefully> > before acting upon them and the results could be well planed out and be> > good. > > > > > > > > > > Nk= Venus> > > > > NRK=Jupiter= 6L> > > > > FK=Ma is SD to 6L> > > > > RK=Me is SD to 6L> > > > > There could be a possibility of a break?> > > > > > > > > > It seems there was full Saturn Delay and Jupiter Delay is present;> > Jupiter is in house C and aspects house B (however, Jupiter is with A,B> lord> > Mars so I am not sure if this moderates delay),Jupiter delay is over when> > Jupiter passes over 7H or 7L. Jupiters transit into Aquarius will aspect> 7L> > Mars. There is one zero due to Saturn in 12h in SAV as per lesson 31, "c)> > If, however, there is one zero in the SAV table, then the delay will take> > place in the second part of the antar dasa of the Lord of D only." > > > > > > > > > > I think event can take place in Jupiter-Moon after delays are over.> > Moon though has low points in SAV, however Moon is SD to Mercury who is> LoE> > with 13 points in SAV and is in HA (Sco)in D-9, Moon is also SD to Saturn> > who is LoD and has 14 points.> > > > > Since, the marriage points equal 20 and 6L being SD to the FK, RK,> NRK> > marriage can happen in Moon antara even with low points is SD to LoE and> LoD> > therefore, eager to give results. > > > > > I think second sector of Jupiter-Moon dasa 9/25/09-3/06/ 10 can give> > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am at least on track and not so off the mark with my> > assessment, if so I look forward to the guidance of all members. > > > > > Thank You.> > > > > > > > > > Shalini> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M"> <dalh_1@>> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > Recently i came across the following chart while studying> marrriage> > time.> > > > > > > > > > > > Date of birth : 19th Apr 1980 (female)> > > > > > Time of birth : 19.58pm> > > > > > Latitude 32 N 04 Longitude 75 E 28 IST> > > > > > > > > > > > She has finished with her MBA in 2005 and got her first job in Dec> > 2005..> > > > > > Except this no past event is available.> > > > > > > > > > > > Interested members can share their views for discussion about her> > > > > > possible marriage period..> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger> > <http://in.messenger /> ...com/> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Dear Anup ji, Thank you very much! This was very helpful. From what I understood Boss must have less points and subordinate more than 4 and then only B is SD to A (planet in 10th position) Then if boss is with 6 bindus and it's subordinate has 3 bindus then there is no SD here, would this be correct? Such two planets would give adverse results would this be right? Thank You, Shalini , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Shalini ji, > > Planets in 4:10 means they can help each other whenever needed. > So they can exchange their influence and replace each other as per > their relative placement. > > 10th place is of boss and 4th place from it is of subordinate.Keep this in > mind while understanding the basic concept. > > Now if a planet is with less than 4 bindus,so it becomes malefic mean a > " strict " planet and if a planet is with more than 4 bindus then it can be > called a benefic,means noble planet. > > So computing these all,if Boss is strict (with less than 4 bindus) then > planet in 4th place as subordinates will have to obey the boss. > This implies that planet in 4th place will give its power to the planet > in 10th place (boss). > > Basically,the planet A in 10th place with less than 4 bindus will > control the planet B in 4th place with more than 4 bindus. > > Here Planet B will be SD to planet A. > > Again as per your query if both the planets are with 5 bindus each > and are in 4:10,they will oppose each other whenever they will get a chance.. > > I do not want to go in detail but surely you go slowly grasping this > samdharmi concept and make an understanding while appplying this on > various charts. > > Regards > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 22/4/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004 wrote: > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004 > Re: Delay in marriage; SD Revisited > > Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 4:25 AM > > Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji and Respected group Members, > > I am having a little difficulty understanding some SD points such as 4:10. I would like to make sure I understand. If two planets are 4:10 apart it is important for the planet that is in the 4th position to have more than 4 bindus and the planet in the 10th position to have less than four bindus. > > If the planet in the 10th position has more than 4 bindus and the planet in 4th position has less than 4 bindus then the planet in the 10th position could act adversely for the 4th position planet?? > > What if both planets have the same amount of bindus like 5/5?? I am looking through archives when I can, to find the understanding of how 4:10 planets will work to give results, but I have not found one yet at least that explain these points yet. > > Thank You, > > Shalini > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > > > > For represent, we are checking the sign lord and nakshatra lord and then > > finding out who it is more like. So it will act as per the points in the > > WS. Whereas for samdharmi, we are not checking the points. That is as per > > the laws of samdharmi i.e. same sign, same nakshatra, same navamsa, navamsa > > lord and 4:10. > > > > There are Grades of samdharmi ship, like 4:10 is very powerful, planets in > > same sign AND same nakshatra AND same navamsa (mostly when planets are close > > to each other conjoined in less than 3deg20 in vicinity) then those are more > > powerful as compared to if the planets had only conjoined in navamsa but > > they are in same exact 5:9 in Rasi. So like that we can distinguish. > > > > Whereas for representation, we are using the SAV power to find out who Ra or > > Ke represent more like i.e. sign lord of navamsa lord and then it will give > > the result as per the WS points. > > > > So I hope this is clear. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of > > prabha.acharya > > Wednesday April 15, 2009 2:22 AM > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ash ji, > > If Ra is SD to Ve and Ma, does that mean during Ve or Ma antra the native > > may get affected by the placement and quality of Rahu. > > Could you please explain the difference of " represent " and SD with respect > > to Ra/Ke? > > Thanks > > Prabha > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " Ash's Corner@ " > > <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > Mo can replace Ju as Mo is in navamsa of Sag. IF NSD's oppose each other > > in > > > Rasi or Navamsa then they cease to be NSD. > > > > > > Rahu will be SD to Ve as its in navamsa of Venus and also to Mars as it > > > conjoins Mars in NAVASMA. > > > > > > Ketu will be SD to Mars as its in navamsa of Sco and also to Mercury as it > > > conjoins it in NAVAMSA. > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu REPRESENT the sign lord and Nakshatra lord in Rasi. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> > > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> ] On Behalf Of Anup. M > > > Tuesday April 14, 2009 10:57 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > > > > > > You can find a detailed explanation on this topic in KAS Visuals on > > > Donna's site. > > > > > > This has been also discussed many times in the past and you can > > > go through the archives for these. > > > > > > Obviosuly,all is related to timing of an event. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 15/4/09, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ > wrote: > > > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ > > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> > > > Wednesday, 15 April, 2009, 8:00 AM > > > Dear Anup ji > > > Could you please answer these doubts > > > 1. When we consider which planet RA/Ke will behave like do we consider > > rashi > > > lord, nakshatra lord, navamsha lord, planets conjoined in navamsha. > > > 2. Ra/Ke will behave more like the rashi lord or nakshatra lord who so > > ever > > > has highest points [ as mentioned in Donna's site] > > > 3. Ra/Ke will be SD to the planets mentioned in Step 1, only for timing > > > events > > > > > > Thanks > > > Prabha > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > <http://in.mc948. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=astrologyandt imingevents% 40yah > > > oogroups.com> , " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji and Shalini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Another correction is needed while prabha ji explained this concept of > > > > samdharmi related to this particular chart > > > > > > > > Venus here will not be samdharmi to Mars,Jup and Sat. > > > > We should not confuse " opposition " factor with samdharmi law. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also Rahu will be SD to Venus as Rahu is in Ven navamsa. > > > > Please note Rahu and Ketu are Samdharmi to the sign lord of the > > > > Navamsa and any planets they might be conjoined with there. > > > > > > > > > > > > Again Moon will not be SD to Jup for the reason that Jup is opposiing > > > > Moon in navamsa irrespect Moon is in Sagg navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 14/4/09, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> > > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > <http://in.mc948. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=astrologyandt imingevents% 40yah > > > oogroups.com> > > > > Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 8:11 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > Most of the points are correct and my answers given below with ** > > > > > > > > >> Yes Anup Ji, it seems I made confusion with Samdharmi. Just to be > > clear > > > for this chart in rashi Venus has 6 bindus and therefore, cannot be > > > Samdharmi to Mars (6) Jupiter (4) Saturn (3), would this be correct? Also, > > > Mercury has 8 bindus and Moon has 5 binuds therefore, even these two > > cannot > > > be samdharmi, I believe. > > > > ** Ve will be SD to Ma, Ju, Sa but since it is with 6 point it will act > > as > > > a subordinate who will not listen to his boss meaning Ve will act against > > > whatever Ma, Ju, Sa represent. Ve will try to create obstacle or behave > > > opposite to the Karakatwa of these 3 planets > > > > Similar can be said of Me opposing Karakatwa of Mo. > > > > > > > > >> Now, Mars and Jupiter share the same star so they are SD and these > > two > > > share the same sign with Saturn so this make all three SD to each other? > > > > ** Yes true > > > > > > > > >> Rahu is SD to Sun, Mars (ketu's Star, but is also conjoined Mars in > > > D-9),Saturn (ketu sign?) and Venus, would this be correct? > > > > ** Ra is not SD to Navamsha Lord. In this case it will be SD to Su, Ma, > > Sa > > > only. NOT Ve. And it will act more as Ma since Ma is having 6 points in > > 11th > > > house where Ra is situated. [ Sa is with 3, and Su is with 5 points in > > 11th > > > house] > > > > > > > > > Ketu is SD to Saturn, Mars and Mercury. > > > > ** Similarly Ke is NOT SD to Me > > > > > > > > > In D-9; Sun is SD to Mercury and Jupiter, Moon is SD to Jupiter and > > > Saturn, Mars is SD to Venus and Rahu, Venus is SD to Moon, and Mercury is > > SD > > > to Mars and Ketu? > > > > ** Su is SD to Me, Ju; Mo is SD to Ju, Sa; > > > > Ma is SD to Ju, Sa {Being in conjunction in Rashi chart], Ve [Navamsha > > > Lord] > > > > Ve is SD to Mo. [Other SD's explained above] > > > > Me is SD to Ma. [Other SD explained above] > > > > In case of Ma and Me they cannot be SD to Ra/Ke as Ra and Ke do not own > > > any houses. Ra/Ke is SD to some planet but a planet cannot be SD to Ra/Ke. > > > That means Ra/Ke can represent some planet but planets cannot represent > > > Ra/Ke. > > > > > > > > >> Now when we overlap the D-1 and D-9 charts we find Moon (5)in Gemini > > in > > > D-1 and Jupiter(4)/Sun( 6) in Gemini in D-9, > > > > ** Why are you overlapping the D1 and D9 charts. > > > > > > > > >>I am shaky on how SD will work for whom in this case, please help me > > > understand. Thank You. > > > > >> Shalini > > > > > > > > I request Seniors to Please correct me if I have made any mistakes > > above. > > > > Thanks > > > > Prabha > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Good analysis. > > > > > > You are on the right track,no doubt. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me correct you somewhere you are confused of samdharmi concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon is not SD to Mer here. > > > > > > Mer is not SD to Jup,6th lord in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > In rasi we do not consider any planet samdharmi to sign lord,it is > > > situated in. > > > > > > This we consider only for navamsa only. > > > > > > > > > > > > Only Rahu and Ketu can be samdharmi to sign and nakshatra lord of > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > > These are basics and should be practised thoroughly. > > > > > > So you reached upto antra level,thats showing your hard work and > > > > > > dedication for this system,no matter you are wrong or right. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep it up. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 13/4/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@ > > > > > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > > Monday, 13 April, 2009, 5:02 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup Ji, Ash Ji, Prabha Ji, Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my assessment, I am getting Lagana 19.58 Libra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lg/7l=Ve/Ma= 4/10 (d-1) 3/11 (d-9) > > > > > > Mo/7l=Me/Ju= 6/8 (d-1) 6/8 (d-9) > > > > > > Su/7l=Ma/Ve= 4/10 (d-1) 6/8 (d-9) > > > > > > total is 20 points less the 50 so marriage could have difficulties. > > > > > > Lagna points equal 25 and seventh equals 25. It seems they may both > > be > > > low key individuals not very ego, however may not have much self > > confidence > > > (would this be correct), the individual is smart and this intelligence is > > > coupled with wisdom. The individual may think things through carefully > > > before acting upon them and the results could be well planed out and be > > > good. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nk= Venus > > > > > > NRK=Jupiter= 6L > > > > > > FK=Ma is SD to 6L > > > > > > RK=Me is SD to 6L > > > > > > There could be a possibility of a break? > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems there was full Saturn Delay and Jupiter Delay is present; > > > Jupiter is in house C and aspects house B (however, Jupiter is with A,B > > lord > > > Mars so I am not sure if this moderates delay),Jupiter delay is over when > > > Jupiter passes over 7H or 7L. Jupiters transit into Aquarius will aspect > > 7L > > > Mars. There is one zero due to Saturn in 12h in SAV as per lesson 31, " c) > > > If, however, there is one zero in the SAV table, then the delay will take > > > place in the second part of the antar dasa of the Lord of D only. " > > > > > > > > > > > > I think event can take place in Jupiter-Moon after delays are over. > > > Moon though has low points in SAV, however Moon is SD to Mercury who is > > LoE > > > with 13 points in SAV and is in HA (Sco)in D-9, Moon is also SD to Saturn > > > who is LoD and has 14 points. > > > > > > Since, the marriage points equal 20 and 6L being SD to the FK, RK, > > NRK > > > marriage can happen in Moon antara even with low points is SD to LoE and > > LoD > > > therefore, eager to give results. > > > > > > I think second sector of Jupiter-Moon dasa 9/25/09-3/06/ 10 can give > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am at least on track and not so off the mark with my > > > assessment, if so I look forward to the guidance of all members. > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shalini > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " > > <dalh_1@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently i came across the following chart while studying > > marrriage > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date of birth : 19th Apr 1980 (female) > > > > > > > Time of birth : 19.58pm > > > > > > > Latitude 32 N 04 Longitude 75 E 28 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She has finished with her MBA in 2005 and got her first job in Dec > > > 2005.. > > > > > > > Except this no past event is available. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interested members can share their views for discussion about her > > > > > > > possible marriage period.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! 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Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Dear Shalini ji, You are on right track now and understanding the concept 4:10 relation. Here the boss,planet A is noble with more than 4 bindus and subordinate planet B is "culprit" or strict,so boss can not control the subordinate in this case. Whenever planet B will get a chance this will try to oppose the boss and will try to cerate problems. So boss (A) will remain there on its chair as per its status but the subordinate B will have to act as per its job showing that it is obeying boss order apparantly but after its out of boss room,it will withdraw its support at the nick of time (on crucial time i will say) Thus planet B will cause opposition and would not lend any support. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 22/4/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004 wrote: shalini3004 <shalini3004 Re: Delay in marriage; SD Revisited Date: Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 9:07 PM Dear Anup ji,Thank you very much! This was very helpful.From what I understood Boss must have less points and subordinate more than 4 and then only B is SD to A (planet in 10th position)Then if boss is with 6 bindus and it's subordinate has 3 bindus then there is no SD here, would this be correct? Such two planets would give adverse results would this be right?Thank You,Shaliniastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Shalini ji,> > Planets in 4:10 means they can help each other whenever needed.> So they can exchange their influence and replace each other as per> their relative placement.> > 10th place is of boss and 4th place from it is of subordinate. Keep this in> mind while understanding the basic concept.> > Now if a planet is with less than 4 bindus,so it becomes malefic mean a> "strict" planet and if a planet is with more than 4 bindus then it can be> called a benefic,means noble planet. > > So computing these all,if Boss is strict (with less than 4 bindus) then> planet in 4th place as subordinates will have to obey the boss.> This implies that planet in 4th place will give its power to the planet > in 10th place (boss).> > Basically,the planet A in 10th place with less than 4 bindus will> control the planet B in 4th place with more than 4 bindus.> > Here Planet B will be SD to planet A.> > Again as per your query if both the planets are with 5 bindus each> and are in 4:10,they will oppose each other whenever they will get a chance..> > I do not want to go in detail but surely you go slowly grasping this> samdharmi concept and make an understanding while appplying this on> various charts.> > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 22/4/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@ ...> wrote:> > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@ ...>> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage; SD Revisited> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 4:25 AM> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji and Respected group Members,> > I am having a little difficulty understanding some SD points such as 4:10. I would like to make sure I understand. If two planets are 4:10 apart it is important for the planet that is in the 4th position to have more than 4 bindus and the planet in the 10th position to have less than four bindus. > > If the planet in the 10th position has more than 4 bindus and the planet in 4th position has less than 4 bindus then the planet in the 10th position could act adversely for the 4th position planet??> > What if both planets have the same amount of bindus like 5/5?? I am looking through archives when I can, to find the understanding of how 4:10 planets will work to give results, but I have not found one yet at least that explain these points yet. > > Thank You,> > Shalini> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner@" <kas@> wrote:> >> > Dear Prabha ji,> > > > For represent, we are checking the sign lord and nakshatra lord and then> > finding out who it is more like. So it will act as per the points in the> > WS. Whereas for samdharmi, we are not checking the points. That is as per> > the laws of samdharmi i.e. same sign, same nakshatra, same navamsa, navamsa> > lord and 4:10.> > > > There are Grades of samdharmi ship, like 4:10 is very powerful, planets in> > same sign AND same nakshatra AND same navamsa (mostly when planets are close> > to each other conjoined in less than 3deg20 in vicinity) then those are more> > powerful as compared to if the planets had only conjoined in navamsa but> > they are in same exact 5:9 in Rasi. So like that we can distinguish.> > > > Whereas for representation, we are using the SAV power to find out who Ra or> > Ke represent more like i.e. sign lord of navamsa lord and then it will give> > the result as per the WS points.> > > > So I hope this is clear. > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > [astrologyan dtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of> > prabha.acharya> > Wednesday April 15, 2009 2:22 AM> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > Subject: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ash ji,> > If Ra is SD to Ve and Ma, does that mean during Ve or Ma antra the native> > may get affected by the placement and quality of Rahu.> > Could you please explain the difference of "represent" and SD with respect> > to Ra/Ke?> > Thanks> > Prabha> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "Ash's Corner@"> > <kas@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Anup ji,> > > > > > Mo can replace Ju as Mo is in navamsa of Sag. IF NSD's oppose each other> > in> > > Rasi or Navamsa then they cease to be NSD.> > > > > > Rahu will be SD to Ve as its in navamsa of Venus and also to Mars as it> > > conjoins Mars in NAVASMA.> > > > > > Ketu will be SD to Mars as its in navamsa of Sco and also to Mercury as it> > > conjoins it in NAVAMSA.> > > > > > Rahu and Ketu REPRESENT the sign lord and Nakshatra lord in Rasi. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> > > > [astrologyan dtiminge vents@ s.com> > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> ] On Behalf Of Anup. M> > > Tuesday April 14, 2009 10:57 PM> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s..com> > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji,> > > > > > You can find a detailed explanation on this topic in KAS Visuals on> > > Donna's site.> > > > > > This has been also discussed many times in the past and you can> > > go through the archives for these.> > > > > > Obviosuly,all is related to timing of an event.> > > > > > Regards> > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 15/4/09, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ > wrote:> > > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ >> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> > > > Wednesday, 15 April, 2009, 8:00 AM> > > Dear Anup ji> > > Could you please answer these doubts> > > 1. When we consider which planet RA/Ke will behave like do we consider> > rashi> > > lord, nakshatra lord, navamsha lord, planets conjoined in navamsha.> > > 2. Ra/Ke will behave more like the rashi lord or nakshatra lord who so> > ever> > > has highest points [ as mentioned in Donna's site]> > > 3. Ra/Ke will be SD to the planets mentioned in Step 1, only for timing> > > events> > > > > > Thanks> > > Prabha> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > >> > <http://in.mc948. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=astrologyandt imingevents% 40yah> > > oogroups.com> , "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Prabha ji and Shalini ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Another correction is needed while prabha ji explained this concept of> > > > samdharmi related to this particular chart> > > > > > > > Venus here will not be samdharmi to Mars,Jup and Sat.> > > > We should not confuse "opposition" factor with samdharmi law.> > > > > > > > > > > > Also Rahu will be SD to Venus as Rahu is in Ven navamsa. > > > > Please note Rahu and Ketu are Samdharmi to the sign lord of the> > > > Navamsa and any planets they might be conjoined with there.> > > > > > > > > > > > Again Moon will not be SD to Jup for the reason that Jup is opposiing> > > > Moon in navamsa irrespect Moon is in Sagg navamsa.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 14/4/09, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...>> > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > >> > <http://in.mc948. mail... com/mc/compose? to=astrologyandt imingevents% 40yah> > > oogroups.com> > > > > Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 8:11 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji,> > > > Most of the points are correct and my answers given below with **> > > > > > > > >> Yes Anup Ji, it seems I made confusion with Samdharmi. Just to be> > clear> > > for this chart in rashi Venus has 6 bindus and therefore, cannot be> > > Samdharmi to Mars (6) Jupiter (4) Saturn (3), would this be correct? Also,> > > Mercury has 8 bindus and Moon has 5 binuds therefore, even these two> > cannot> > > be samdharmi, I believe. > > > > ** Ve will be SD to Ma, Ju, Sa but since it is with 6 point it will act> > as> > > a subordinate who will not listen to his boss meaning Ve will act against> > > whatever Ma, Ju, Sa represent.. Ve will try to create obstacle or behave> > > opposite to the Karakatwa of these 3 planets > > > > Similar can be said of Me opposing Karakatwa of Mo.> > > > > > > > >> Now, Mars and Jupiter share the same star so they are SD and these> > two> > > share the same sign with Saturn so this make all three SD to each other?> > > > ** Yes true> > > > > > > > >> Rahu is SD to Sun, Mars (ketu's Star, but is also conjoined Mars in> > > D-9),Saturn (ketu sign?) and Venus, would this be correct?> > > > ** Ra is not SD to Navamsha Lord. In this case it will be SD to Su, Ma,> > Sa> > > only. NOT Ve. And it will act more as Ma since Ma is having 6 points in> > 11th> > > house where Ra is situated. [ Sa is with 3, and Su is with 5 points in> > 11th> > > house]> > > > > > > > > Ketu is SD to Saturn, Mars and Mercury.> > > > ** Similarly Ke is NOT SD to Me> > > > > > > > > In D-9; Sun is SD to Mercury and Jupiter, Moon is SD to Jupiter and> > > Saturn, Mars is SD to Venus and Rahu, Venus is SD to Moon, and Mercury is> > SD> > > to Mars and Ketu?> > > > ** Su is SD to Me, Ju; Mo is SD to Ju, Sa; > > > > Ma is SD to Ju, Sa {Being in conjunction in Rashi chart], Ve [Navamsha> > > Lord]> > > > Ve is SD to Mo. [Other SD's explained above]> > > > Me is SD to Ma. [Other SD explained above]> > > > In case of Ma and Me they cannot be SD to Ra/Ke as Ra and Ke do not own> > > any houses. Ra/Ke is SD to some planet but a planet cannot be SD to Ra/Ke.> > > That means Ra/Ke can represent some planet but planets cannot represent> > > Ra/Ke.> > > > > > > > >> Now when we overlap the D-1 and D-9 charts we find Moon (5)in Gemini> > in> > > D-1 and Jupiter(4)/Sun( 6) in Gemini in D-9,> > > > ** Why are you overlapping the D1 and D9 charts. > > > > > > > > >>I am shaky on how SD will work for whom in this case, please help me> > > understand. Thank You.> > > > >> Shalini > > > > > > > > I request Seniors to Please correct me if I have made any mistakes> > above.> > > > Thanks> > > > Prabha> > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1@>> > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Shalini ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Good analysis.> > > > > > You are on the right track,no doubt.> > > > > > > > > > > > Let me correct you somewhere you are confused of samdharmi concept.> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon is not SD to Mer here.> > > > > > Mer is not SD to Jup,6th lord in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > In rasi we do not consider any planet samdharmi to sign lord,it is> > > situated in.> > > > > > This we consider only for navamsa only.> > > > > > > > > > > > Only Rahu and Ketu can be samdharmi to sign and nakshatra lord of> > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > > These are basics and should be practised thoroughly. > > > > > > So you reached upto antra level,thats showing your hard work and> > > > > > dedication for this system,no matter you are wrong or right.> > > > > > > > > > > > Keep it up.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 13/4/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@ >> > > > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > > > > Monday, 13 April, 2009, 5:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup Ji, Ash Ji, Prabha Ji, Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my assessment, I am getting Lagana 19.58 Libra.> > > > > > > > > > > > Lg/7l=Ve/Ma= 4/10 (d-1) 3/11 (d-9)> > > > > > Mo/7l=Me/Ju= 6/8 (d-1) 6/8 (d-9)> > > > > > Su/7l=Ma/Ve= 4/10 (d-1) 6/8 (d-9)> > > > > > total is 20 points less the 50 so marriage could have difficulties. > > > > > > Lagna points equal 25 and seventh equals 25. It seems they may both> > be> > > low key individuals not very ego, however may not have much self> > confidence> > > (would this be correct), the individual is smart and this intelligence is> > > coupled with wisdom. The individual may think things through carefully> > > before acting upon them and the results could be well planed out and be> > > good. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nk= Venus> > > > > > NRK=Jupiter= 6L> > > > > > FK=Ma is SD to 6L> > > > > > RK=Me is SD to 6L> > > > > > There could be a possibility of a break?> > > > > > > > > > > > It seems there was full Saturn Delay and Jupiter Delay is present;> > > Jupiter is in house C and aspects house B (however, Jupiter is with A,B> > lord> > > Mars so I am not sure if this moderates delay),Jupiter delay is over when> > > Jupiter passes over 7H or 7L. Jupiters transit into Aquarius will aspect> > 7L> > > Mars. There is one zero due to Saturn in 12h in SAV as per lesson 31, "c)> > > If, however, there is one zero in the SAV table, then the delay will take> > > place in the second part of the antar dasa of the Lord of D only." > > > > > > > > > > > > I think event can take place in Jupiter-Moon after delays are over.> > > Moon though has low points in SAV, however Moon is SD to Mercury who is> > LoE> > > with 13 points in SAV and is in HA (Sco)in D-9, Moon is also SD to Saturn> > > who is LoD and has 14 points.> > > > > > Since, the marriage points equal 20 and 6L being SD to the FK, RK,> > NRK> > > marriage can happen in Moon antara even with low points is SD to LoE and> > LoD> > > therefore, eager to give results. > > > > > > I think second sector of Jupiter-Moon dasa 9/25/09-3/06/ 10 can give> > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am at least on track and not so off the mark with my> > > assessment, if so I look forward to the guidance of all members. > > > > > > Thank You.> > > > > > > > > > > > Shalini> > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. 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Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Dear Anup Ji, Thank you very much this was very helpful! Shalini , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > You are on right track now and understanding the concept 4:10 relation. > > Here the boss,planet A is noble with more than 4 bindus and subordinate > planet B is " culprit " or strict,so boss can not control the subordinate in this case. > Whenever planet B will get a chance this will try to oppose the boss and will try > to cerate problems. > > So boss (A) will remain there on its chair as per its status but the subordinate B > will have to act as per its job showing that it is obeying boss order apparantly > but after its out of boss room,it will withdraw its support at the nick of time > (on crucial time i will say) > > Thus planet B will cause opposition and would not lend any support. > > > Regards > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 22/4/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004 wrote: > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004 > Re: Delay in marriage; SD Revisited > > Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 9:07 PM > > Dear Anup ji, > > Thank you very much! This was very helpful. > > From what I understood Boss must have less points and subordinate more than 4 and then only B is SD to A (planet in 10th position) > > Then if boss is with 6 bindus and it's subordinate has 3 bindus then there is no SD here, would this be correct? Such two planets would give adverse results would this be right? > > Thank You, > > Shalini > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > Planets in 4:10 means they can help each other whenever needed. > > So they can exchange their influence and replace each other as per > > their relative placement. > > > > 10th place is of boss and 4th place from it is of subordinate. Keep this in > > mind while understanding the basic concept. > > > > Now if a planet is with less than 4 bindus,so it becomes malefic mean a > > " strict " planet and if a planet is with more than 4 bindus then it can be > > called a benefic,means noble planet. > > > > So computing these all,if Boss is strict (with less than 4 bindus) then > > planet in 4th place as subordinates will have to obey the boss. > > This implies that planet in 4th place will give its power to the planet > > in 10th place (boss). > > > > Basically,the planet A in 10th place with less than 4 bindus will > > control the planet B in 4th place with more than 4 bindus. > > > > Here Planet B will be SD to planet A. > > > > Again as per your query if both the planets are with 5 bindus each > > and are in 4:10,they will oppose each other whenever they will get a chance.. > > > > I do not want to go in detail but surely you go slowly grasping this > > samdharmi concept and make an understanding while appplying this on > > various charts. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 22/4/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@ ...> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage; SD Revisited > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 4:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji, Prabha Ji and Respected group Members, > > > > I am having a little difficulty understanding some SD points such as 4:10.. I would like to make sure I understand. If two planets are 4:10 apart it is important for the planet that is in the 4th position to have more than 4 bindus and the planet in the 10th position to have less than four bindus. > > > > If the planet in the 10th position has more than 4 bindus and the planet in 4th position has less than 4 bindus then the planet in the 10th position could act adversely for the 4th position planet?? > > > > What if both planets have the same amount of bindus like 5/5?? I am looking through archives when I can, to find the understanding of how 4:10 planets will work to give results, but I have not found one yet at least that explain these points yet. > > > > Thank You, > > > > Shalini > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > > > > > > For represent, we are checking the sign lord and nakshatra lord and then > > > finding out who it is more like. So it will act as per the points in the > > > WS. Whereas for samdharmi, we are not checking the points. That is as per > > > the laws of samdharmi i.e. same sign, same nakshatra, same navamsa, navamsa > > > lord and 4:10. > > > > > > There are Grades of samdharmi ship, like 4:10 is very powerful, planets in > > > same sign AND same nakshatra AND same navamsa (mostly when planets are close > > > to each other conjoined in less than 3deg20 in vicinity) then those are more > > > powerful as compared to if the planets had only conjoined in navamsa but > > > they are in same exact 5:9 in Rasi. So like that we can distinguish. > > > > > > Whereas for representation, we are using the SAV power to find out who Ra or > > > Ke represent more like i.e. sign lord of navamsa lord and then it will give > > > the result as per the WS points. > > > > > > So I hope this is clear. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > [astrologyan dtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of > > > prabha.acharya > > > Wednesday April 15, 2009 2:22 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ash ji, > > > If Ra is SD to Ve and Ma, does that mean during Ve or Ma antra the native > > > may get affected by the placement and quality of Rahu. > > > Could you please explain the difference of " represent " and SD with respect > > > to Ra/Ke? > > > Thanks > > > Prabha > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " Ash's Corner@ " > > > <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > > > Mo can replace Ju as Mo is in navamsa of Sag. IF NSD's oppose each other > > > in > > > > Rasi or Navamsa then they cease to be NSD. > > > > > > > > Rahu will be SD to Ve as its in navamsa of Venus and also to Mars as it > > > > conjoins Mars in NAVASMA. > > > > > > > > Ketu will be SD to Mars as its in navamsa of Sco and also to Mercury as it > > > > conjoins it in NAVAMSA. > > > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu REPRESENT the sign lord and Nakshatra lord in Rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> > > > > [astrologyan dtiminge vents@ s.com > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> ] On Behalf Of Anup. M > > > > Tuesday April 14, 2009 10:57 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > > > > > > > > You can find a detailed explanation on this topic in KAS Visuals on > > > > Donna's site. > > > > > > > > This has been also discussed many times in the past and you can > > > > go through the archives for these. > > > > > > > > Obviosuly,all is related to timing of an event. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 15/4/09, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ > > > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> > > > > Wednesday, 15 April, 2009, 8:00 AM > > > > Dear Anup ji > > > > Could you please answer these doubts > > > > 1. When we consider which planet RA/Ke will behave like do we consider > > > rashi > > > > lord, nakshatra lord, navamsha lord, planets conjoined in navamsha. > > > > 2. Ra/Ke will behave more like the rashi lord or nakshatra lord who so > > > ever > > > > has highest points [ as mentioned in Donna's site] > > > > 3. Ra/Ke will be SD to the planets mentioned in Step 1, only for timing > > > > events > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Prabha > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > > > <http://in.mc948. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=astrologyandt imingevents% 40yah > > > > oogroups.com> , " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji and Shalini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another correction is needed while prabha ji explained this concept of > > > > > samdharmi related to this particular chart > > > > > > > > > > Venus here will not be samdharmi to Mars,Jup and Sat. > > > > > We should not confuse " opposition " factor with samdharmi law. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also Rahu will be SD to Venus as Rahu is in Ven navamsa. > > > > > Please note Rahu and Ketu are Samdharmi to the sign lord of the > > > > > Navamsa and any planets they might be conjoined with there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again Moon will not be SD to Jup for the reason that Jup is opposiing > > > > > Moon in navamsa irrespect Moon is in Sagg navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 14/4/09, prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prabha.acharya <prabha.acharya@ ...> > > > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > > > <http://in.mc948. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=astrologyandt imingevents% 40yah > > > > oogroups.com> > > > > > Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 8:11 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > > Most of the points are correct and my answers given below with ** > > > > > > > > > > >> Yes Anup Ji, it seems I made confusion with Samdharmi. Just to be > > > clear > > > > for this chart in rashi Venus has 6 bindus and therefore, cannot be > > > > Samdharmi to Mars (6) Jupiter (4) Saturn (3), would this be correct? Also, > > > > Mercury has 8 bindus and Moon has 5 binuds therefore, even these two > > > cannot > > > > be samdharmi, I believe. > > > > > ** Ve will be SD to Ma, Ju, Sa but since it is with 6 point it will act > > > as > > > > a subordinate who will not listen to his boss meaning Ve will act against > > > > whatever Ma, Ju, Sa represent. Ve will try to create obstacle or behave > > > > opposite to the Karakatwa of these 3 planets > > > > > Similar can be said of Me opposing Karakatwa of Mo. > > > > > > > > > > >> Now, Mars and Jupiter share the same star so they are SD and these > > > two > > > > share the same sign with Saturn so this make all three SD to each other? > > > > > ** Yes true > > > > > > > > > > >> Rahu is SD to Sun, Mars (ketu's Star, but is also conjoined Mars in > > > > D-9),Saturn (ketu sign?) and Venus, would this be correct? > > > > > ** Ra is not SD to Navamsha Lord. In this case it will be SD to Su, Ma, > > > Sa > > > > only. NOT Ve. And it will act more as Ma since Ma is having 6 points in > > > 11th > > > > house where Ra is situated. [ Sa is with 3, and Su is with 5 points in > > > 11th > > > > house] > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu is SD to Saturn, Mars and Mercury. > > > > > ** Similarly Ke is NOT SD to Me > > > > > > > > > > > In D-9; Sun is SD to Mercury and Jupiter, Moon is SD to Jupiter and > > > > Saturn, Mars is SD to Venus and Rahu, Venus is SD to Moon, and Mercury is > > > SD > > > > to Mars and Ketu? > > > > > ** Su is SD to Me, Ju; Mo is SD to Ju, Sa; > > > > > Ma is SD to Ju, Sa {Being in conjunction in Rashi chart], Ve [Navamsha > > > > Lord] > > > > > Ve is SD to Mo. [Other SD's explained above] > > > > > Me is SD to Ma. [Other SD explained above] > > > > > In case of Ma and Me they cannot be SD to Ra/Ke as Ra and Ke do not own > > > > any houses. Ra/Ke is SD to some planet but a planet cannot be SD to Ra/Ke. > > > > That means Ra/Ke can represent some planet but planets cannot represent > > > > Ra/Ke. > > > > > > > > > > >> Now when we overlap the D-1 and D-9 charts we find Moon (5)in Gemini > > > in > > > > D-1 and Jupiter(4)/Sun( 6) in Gemini in D-9, > > > > > ** Why are you overlapping the D1 and D9 charts. > > > > > > > > > > >>I am shaky on how SD will work for whom in this case, please help me > > > > understand. Thank You. > > > > > >> Shalini > > > > > > > > > > I request Seniors to Please correct me if I have made any mistakes > > > above. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Prabha > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good analysis. > > > > > > > You are on the right track,no doubt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me correct you somewhere you are confused of samdharmi concept. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon is not SD to Mer here. > > > > > > > Mer is not SD to Jup,6th lord in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In rasi we do not consider any planet samdharmi to sign lord,it is > > > > situated in. > > > > > > > This we consider only for navamsa only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only Rahu and Ketu can be samdharmi to sign and nakshatra lord of > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are basics and should be practised thoroughly. > > > > > > > So you reached upto antra level,thats showing your hard work and > > > > > > > dedication for this system,no matter you are wrong or right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep it up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 13/4/09, shalini3004 <shalini3004@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shalini3004 <shalini3004@ > > > > > > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Delay in marriage > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > > > Monday, 13 April, 2009, 5:02 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup Ji, Ash Ji, Prabha Ji, Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my assessment, I am getting Lagana 19.58 Libra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lg/7l=Ve/Ma= 4/10 (d-1) 3/11 (d-9) > > > > > > > Mo/7l=Me/Ju= 6/8 (d-1) 6/8 (d-9) > > > > > > > Su/7l=Ma/Ve= 4/10 (d-1) 6/8 (d-9) > > > > > > > total is 20 points less the 50 so marriage could have difficulties. > > > > > > > Lagna points equal 25 and seventh equals 25. It seems they may both > > > be > > > > low key individuals not very ego, however may not have much self > > > confidence > > > > (would this be correct), the individual is smart and this intelligence is > > > > coupled with wisdom. The individual may think things through carefully > > > > before acting upon them and the results could be well planed out and be > > > > good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nk= Venus > > > > > > > NRK=Jupiter= 6L > > > > > > > FK=Ma is SD to 6L > > > > > > > RK=Me is SD to 6L > > > > > > > There could be a possibility of a break? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems there was full Saturn Delay and Jupiter Delay is present; > > > > Jupiter is in house C and aspects house B (however, Jupiter is with A,B > > > lord > > > > Mars so I am not sure if this moderates delay),Jupiter delay is over when > > > > Jupiter passes over 7H or 7L. Jupiters transit into Aquarius will aspect > > > 7L > > > > Mars. There is one zero due to Saturn in 12h in SAV as per lesson 31, " c) > > > > If, however, there is one zero in the SAV table, then the delay will take > > > > place in the second part of the antar dasa of the Lord of D only. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think event can take place in Jupiter-Moon after delays are over. > > > > Moon though has low points in SAV, however Moon is SD to Mercury who is > > > LoE > > > > with 13 points in SAV and is in HA (Sco)in D-9, Moon is also SD to Saturn > > > > who is LoD and has 14 points. > > > > > > > Since, the marriage points equal 20 and 6L being SD to the FK, RK, > > > NRK > > > > marriage can happen in Moon antara even with low points is SD to LoE and > > > LoD > > > > therefore, eager to give results. > > > > > > > I think second sector of Jupiter-Moon dasa 9/25/09-3/06/ 10 can give > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am at least on track and not so off the mark with my > > > > assessment, if so I look forward to the guidance of all members. > > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shalini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. 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