Denial of Marriage-A Chart From Satara Workshop

May 12, 2009

Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of marriage.

By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are given in.

the lessons

So,well done everybody !

This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see the

chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet for 7th house

has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen after

substantial delay for sure.

But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart closely.

We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status of

each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of you.

Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an importanat

role in the delay.

Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at all.

Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems here.

But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not wrong.

So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial of marriage.

Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th house.

Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be effected.

Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being aspected

by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan from

Venus.

So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent that

one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to house B.

Regards

Anup

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May 13, 2009

Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc 29Vi16

Dear Anup ji,

Thanks for your your precious comments on the subject and for explaining us further deep down the theories.

Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two planets in close distance to each other (In the above chart Sa Mo are close in 7th house and thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

What shall be the effects of Saturn Moon together in say 11th house when thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It must surely be depending also upon the raashi of that house.

Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus Mercury etc. also play a special role when extremely close together in any house.

Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that Ghajal singer Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

Can you please throw some light on this facet.

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

>Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

>

>All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of marriage.

>By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are given in.

>the lessons

>

>So,well done everybody !

>

>This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see the

>chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet for 7th house

>has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen after

>substantial delay for sure.

>

>But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart closely.

>We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

>

>Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status of

>each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

>

>Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of you.

>

>Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

>which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an importanat

>role in the delay.

>

>Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

>So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at all.

>

>Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems here.

>But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not wrong.

>

>So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial of marriage.

>

>Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th house.

>Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

>We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be effected.

>

>Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being aspected

>by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan from

>Venus.

>

>So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

>

>In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent that

>one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to house B.

>

>Regards

>Anup

>

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May 13, 2009

Dear Nikhlesh ji,

The answer to your question is not very simple.

Only a few things can be deduced from your question.

Sa and Mo very close or in the same degree in 1 house, would mean that they are

together in all the divisional charts or in many of them.

Without the proper lagna and knowing which house they are in and studying it in

furthre detail, only standard general readings you can take that are give in VA

books which give very general readings like Sun in aries means such and such or

Sa with Moon means such and such.

Actually in KAS for the detailed portion, we need to know the degree of each and

every planet and lagna degrees and swoday kaal i.e. the latitude and longitude

and sunrise etc for each chart then you can get to the pin point accuracy. Yes

Guru ji has not taught that portion as yet, as that is not dealing with timing

of events and also to understand that portion, the timing of evets portion and

the laws that have been taught this far must come very naturally to you and also

one must gain a lot of experience by solving many charts. Then and then, one

will become ready. So we all are in the process of studying the same and

gaining experience with each chart that we are solving and also via discussions.

So, Sa with Moon without knowing the sign it is in and the degree of Sa and Mo

and the degree of lagna we can only refer to the general prediction like Sa is

conjoining a luminary and that mean the influence of Shani on Moon. The more

closer they are then more is the influence.

That said, we also need to know the position of other grahas too, for example

what if Mo is with Sa and with Rahu or say with Ma or with Guru like that, so to

get pin point we need to know all the degrees and the degree of lagna and lat

and longitude. That is also key to understanding why the nature of twins are

different etc etc etc.

I have run out of time,

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

, " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur wrote:

>

> Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc 29Vi16

>

> Dear Anup ji,

>

> Thanks for your your precious comments on the subject and for

explaining us further deep down the theories.

>

> Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two planets in close

distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in 7th house and

thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

>

> What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say 11th house when

thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It must surely be

depending also upon the raashi of that house.

>

> Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus Mercury etc. also

play a special role when extremely close together in any house.

>

> Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that Ghajal singer Shri

Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

>

> Can you please throw some light on this facet.

>

> Regards,

> Nikhlesh Mathur

>

> On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> >

> >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of marriage.

> >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are given in.

> >the lessons

> >

> >So,well done everybody !

> >

> >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see the

> >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet for 7th house

> >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen after

> >substantial delay for sure.

> >

> >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart closely.

> >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> >

> >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status of

> >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> >

> >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of you.

> >

> >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

> >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an importanat

> >role in the delay.

> >

> >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at all.

> >

> >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems here.

> >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not wrong.

> >

> >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial of marriage.

> >

> >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th house.

> >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be effected.

> >

> >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being aspected

> >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan from

> >Venus.

> >

> >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> >

> >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent that

> >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to house B.

> >

> >Regards

> >Anup

> >

> > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India

Travel http://in.travel./

>

May 13, 2009

Dear Nikhlesh ji,

When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases if less than 3deg20

or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will become samdharmi.

So it means that they can replace each other for giving timing of event.

This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural samdharmis conjoin

very close then for some of the house they will become more powerful as they are

generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo or Ma and Su. So

for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to become better. Now

which house they conjoin then that is different. We also have to factor in the

sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in d charts, the sign

they are, house they are etc etc etc.

So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more data.

The more i think over your question, the more and more permutations and

combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

, " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur wrote:

>

> Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc 29Vi16

>

> Dear Anup ji,

>

> Thanks for your your precious comments on the subject and for

explaining us further deep down the theories.

>

> Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two planets in close

distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in 7th house and

thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

>

> What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say 11th house when

thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It must surely be

depending also upon the raashi of that house.

>

> Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus Mercury etc. also

play a special role when extremely close together in any house.

>

> Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that Ghajal singer Shri

Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

>

> Can you please throw some light on this facet.

>

> Regards,

> Nikhlesh Mathur

>

> On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> >

> >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of marriage.

> >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are given in.

> >the lessons

> >

> >So,well done everybody !

> >

> >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see the

> >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet for 7th house

> >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen after

> >substantial delay for sure.

> >

> >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart closely.

> >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> >

> >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status of

> >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> >

> >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of you.

> >

> >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

> >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an importanat

> >role in the delay.

> >

> >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at all.

> >

> >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems here.

> >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not wrong.

> >

> >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial of marriage.

> >

> >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th house.

> >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be effected.

> >

> >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being aspected

> >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan from

> >Venus.

> >

> >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> >

> >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent that

> >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to house B.

> >

> >Regards

> >Anup

> >

> > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India

Travel http://in.travel./

>

May 13, 2009

Dear Nikhlesh ji,

I am sure you have read this post, but just to refresh your memory here is a

post from Guru ji.

/message/4992

Just see how Guru ji has studied the degree of planets.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Nikhlesh ji,

>

> When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases if less than 3deg20

or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will become samdharmi.

So it means that they can replace each other for giving timing of event.

>

> This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural samdharmis conjoin

very close then for some of the house they will become more powerful as they are

generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo or Ma and Su. So

for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to become better. Now

which house they conjoin then that is different. We also have to factor in the

sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in d charts, the sign

they are, house they are etc etc etc.

>

> So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more data.

>

> The more i think over your question, the more and more permutations and

combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> >

> > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc 29Vi16

> >

> > Dear Anup ji,

> >

> > Thanks for your your precious comments on the subject and for

explaining us further deep down the theories.

> >

> > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two planets in close

distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in 7th house and

thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> >

> > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say 11th house when

thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It must surely be

depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> >

> > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus Mercury etc.

also play a special role when extremely close together in any house.

> >

> > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that Ghajal singer

Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> >

> > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> > >

> > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of marriage.

> > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are given in.

> > >the lessons

> > >

> > >So,well done everybody !

> > >

> > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see the

> > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet for 7th house

> > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen after

> > >substantial delay for sure.

> > >

> > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart closely.

> > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > >

> > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status of

> > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > >

> > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of you.

> > >

> > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

> > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an importanat

> > >role in the delay.

> > >

> > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at all.

> > >

> > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems here.

> > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not wrong.

> > >

> > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial of marriage.

> > >

> > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th house.

> > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be effected.

> > >

> > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being aspected

> > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan from

> > >Venus.

> > >

> > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> > >

> > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent that

> > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to house B.

> > >

> > >Regards

> > >Anup

> > >

> > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India

Travel http://in.travel./

> >

>

May 13, 2009

Ash, you mentioned another interesting point that I wasn't aware of - planets

aspecting (not just conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20 are also

samdharmis.

I always thought if the planets are in the same sign and constellation, they are

samdharmis.

Thanks for the pointer,

SG

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Nikhlesh ji,

>

> When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases if less than 3deg20

or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will become samdharmi.

So it means that they can replace each other for giving timing of event.

>

> This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural samdharmis conjoin

very close then for some of the house they will become more powerful as they are

generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo or Ma and Su. So

for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to become better. Now

which house they conjoin then that is different. We also have to factor in the

sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in d charts, the sign

they are, house they are etc etc etc.

>

> So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more data.

>

> The more i think over your question, the more and more permutations and

combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> >

> > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc 29Vi16

> >

> > Dear Anup ji,

> >

> > Thanks for your your precious comments on the subject and for

explaining us further deep down the theories.

> >

> > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two planets in close

distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in 7th house and

thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> >

> > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say 11th house when

thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It must surely be

depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> >

> > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus Mercury etc.

also play a special role when extremely close together in any house.

> >

> > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that Ghajal singer

Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> >

> > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> > >

> > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of marriage.

> > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are given in.

> > >the lessons

> > >

> > >So,well done everybody !

> > >

> > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see the

> > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet for 7th house

> > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen after

> > >substantial delay for sure.

> > >

> > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart closely.

> > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > >

> > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status of

> > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > >

> > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of you.

> > >

> > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

> > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an importanat

> > >role in the delay.

> > >

> > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at all.

> > >

> > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems here.

> > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not wrong.

> > >

> > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial of marriage.

> > >

> > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th house.

> > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be effected.

> > >

> > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being aspected

> > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan from

> > >Venus.

> > >

> > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> > >

> > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent that

> > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to house B.

> > >

> > >Regards

> > >Anup

> > >

> > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India

Travel http://in.travel./

> >

>

May 13, 2009

Dear SG,

They would come together in navamsa. It is covered in the lessons.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

, " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269

wrote:

>

> Ash, you mentioned another interesting point that I wasn't aware of - planets

aspecting (not just conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20 are also

samdharmis.

>

> I always thought if the planets are in the same sign and constellation, they

are samdharmis.

>

> Thanks for the pointer,

>

> SG

>

> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> >

> > When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases if less than

3deg20 or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will become

samdharmi. So it means that they can replace each other for giving timing of

event.

> >

> > This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural samdharmis conjoin

very close then for some of the house they will become more powerful as they are

generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo or Ma and Su. So

for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to become better. Now

which house they conjoin then that is different. We also have to factor in the

sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in d charts, the sign

they are, house they are etc etc etc.

> >

> > So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more data.

> >

> > The more i think over your question, the more and more permutations and

combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc 29Vi16

> > >

> > > Dear Anup ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your your precious comments on the subject and for

explaining us further deep down the theories.

> > >

> > > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two planets in close

distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in 7th house and

thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> > >

> > > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say 11th house when

thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It must surely be

depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> > >

> > > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus Mercury etc.

also play a special role when extremely close together in any house.

> > >

> > > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that Ghajal singer

Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> > >

> > > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > >

> > > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> > > >

> > > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of marriage.

> > > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are given in.

> > > >the lessons

> > > >

> > > >So,well done everybody !

> > > >

> > > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see the

> > > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet for 7th house

> > > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen after

> > > >substantial delay for sure.

> > > >

> > > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart closely.

> > > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > > >

> > > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status of

> > > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > > >

> > > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of you.

> > > >

> > > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

> > > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an importanat

> > > >role in the delay.

> > > >

> > > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> > > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at all.

> > > >

> > > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems here.

> > > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not wrong.

> > > >

> > > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial of

marriage.

> > > >

> > > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th house.

> > > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be effected.

> > > >

> > > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being aspected

> > > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan from

> > > >Venus.

> > > >

> > > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> > > >

> > > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent that

> > > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to house B.

> > > >

> > > >Regards

> > > >Anup

> > > >

> > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with

India Travel http://in.travel./

> > >

> >

>

May 13, 2009

Ash, so since Rahu and Ketu always aspect each other exactly by degree,

shouldn't they be in same navamsa all the time?

I don't understand something here, I am sure. Can you please elaborate and

help.

thanks, SG

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear SG,

>

> They would come together in navamsa. It is covered in the lessons.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@>

wrote:

> >

> > Ash, you mentioned another interesting point that I wasn't aware of -

planets aspecting (not just conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20 are also

samdharmis.

> >

> > I always thought if the planets are in the same sign and constellation, they

are samdharmis.

> >

> > Thanks for the pointer,

> >

> > SG

> >

> > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > >

> > > When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases if less than

3deg20 or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will become

samdharmi. So it means that they can replace each other for giving timing of

event.

> > >

> > > This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural samdharmis

conjoin very close then for some of the house they will become more powerful as

they are generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo or Ma and

Su. So for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to become

better. Now which house they conjoin then that is different. We also have to

factor in the sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in d

charts, the sign they are, house they are etc etc etc.

> > >

> > > So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more data.

> > >

> > > The more i think over your question, the more and more permutations and

combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc 29Vi16

> > > >

> > > > Dear Anup ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your your precious comments on the subject and

for explaining us further deep down the theories.

> > > >

> > > > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two planets in close

distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in 7th house and

thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> > > >

> > > > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say 11th house

when thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It must

surely be depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> > > >

> > > > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus Mercury

etc. also play a special role when extremely close together in any house.

> > > >

> > > > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that Ghajal

singer Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> > > >

> > > > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > >

> > > > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > > > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> > > > >

> > > > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of marriage.

> > > > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are given in.

> > > > >the lessons

> > > > >

> > > > >So,well done everybody !

> > > > >

> > > > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see the

> > > > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet for 7th

house

> > > > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen after

> > > > >substantial delay for sure.

> > > > >

> > > > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart closely.

> > > > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status of

> > > > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > > > >

> > > > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of you.

> > > > >

> > > > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

> > > > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an importanat

> > > > >role in the delay.

> > > > >

> > > > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> > > > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at all.

> > > > >

> > > > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems here.

> > > > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial of

marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th house.

> > > > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > > > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be effected.

> > > > >

> > > > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being aspected

> > > > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan from

> > > > >Venus.

> > > > >

> > > > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> > > > >

> > > > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent that

> > > > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to house B.

> > > > >

> > > > >Regards

> > > > >Anup

> > > > >

> > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with

India Travel http://in.travel./

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 13, 2009

When planets are in 5:9 and < 3deg20 in orb then they will come together in

navamsa and become SD.

That should get it straight.

, " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269

wrote:

>

> Ash, so since Rahu and Ketu always aspect each other exactly by degree,

shouldn't they be in same navamsa all the time?

>

> I don't understand something here, I am sure. Can you please elaborate and

help.

>

> thanks, SG

>

> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear SG,

> >

> > They would come together in navamsa. It is covered in the lessons.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Ash, you mentioned another interesting point that I wasn't aware of -

planets aspecting (not just conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20 are also

samdharmis.

> > >

> > > I always thought if the planets are in the same sign and constellation,

they are samdharmis.

> > >

> > > Thanks for the pointer,

> > >

> > > SG

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > >

> > > > When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases if less than

3deg20 or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will become

samdharmi. So it means that they can replace each other for giving timing of

event.

> > > >

> > > > This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural samdharmis

conjoin very close then for some of the house they will become more powerful as

they are generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo or Ma and

Su. So for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to become

better. Now which house they conjoin then that is different. We also have to

factor in the sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in d

charts, the sign they are, house they are etc etc etc.

> > > >

> > > > So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more data.

> > > >

> > > > The more i think over your question, the more and more permutations and

combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > > , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc 29Vi16

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Anup ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your your precious comments on the subject and

for explaining us further deep down the theories.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two planets in close

distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in 7th house and

thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> > > > >

> > > > > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say 11th house

when thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It must

surely be depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus Mercury

etc. also play a special role when extremely close together in any house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that Ghajal

singer Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > >

> > > > > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > > > > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of marriage.

> > > > > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are given in.

> > > > > >the lessons

> > > > > >

> > > > > >So,well done everybody !

> > > > > >

> > > > > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see the

> > > > > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet for 7th

house

> > > > > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen after

> > > > > >substantial delay for sure.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart closely.

> > > > > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status of

> > > > > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

> > > > > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an importanat

> > > > > >role in the delay.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> > > > > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at all.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems here.

> > > > > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not wrong.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial of

marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th house.

> > > > > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > > > > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be effected.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being

aspected

> > > > > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan from

> > > > > >Venus.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent that

> > > > > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to house B.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Regards

> > > > > >Anup

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with

India Travel http://in.travel./

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 13, 2009

Thanks Ash for quick replies, So this rule is applicable only for the 9th

aspect - only for Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu?

Or, any planets in 5:9 relationship will become samdharmis?

Thanks, SG

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> 9th aspect. In navamsa Ra and Ke are always opposite.

>

> , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@>

wrote:

> >

> > Ash, so since Rahu and Ketu always aspect each other exactly by degree,

shouldn't they be in same navamsa all the time?

> >

> > I don't understand something here, I am sure. Can you please elaborate and

help.

> >

> > thanks, SG

> >

> > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear SG,

> > >

> > > They would come together in navamsa. It is covered in the lessons.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Ash, you mentioned another interesting point that I wasn't aware of -

planets aspecting (not just conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20 are also

samdharmis.

> > > >

> > > > I always thought if the planets are in the same sign and constellation,

they are samdharmis.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the pointer,

> > > >

> > > > SG

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases if less

than 3deg20 or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will become

samdharmi. So it means that they can replace each other for giving timing of

event.

> > > > >

> > > > > This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural samdharmis

conjoin very close then for some of the house they will become more powerful as

they are generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo or Ma and

Su. So for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to become

better. Now which house they conjoin then that is different. We also have to

factor in the sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in d

charts, the sign they are, house they are etc etc etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more data.

> > > > >

> > > > > The more i think over your question, the more and more permutations

and combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc 29Vi16

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Anup ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your your precious comments on the subject

and for explaining us further deep down the theories.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two planets in

close distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in 7th house

and thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say 11th

house when thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It must

surely be depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus Mercury

etc. also play a special role when extremely close together in any house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that Ghajal

singer Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of marriage.

> > > > > > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are given in.

> > > > > > >the lessons

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >So,well done everybody !

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see the

> > > > > > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet for 7th

house

> > > > > > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen after

> > > > > > >substantial delay for sure.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart closely.

> > > > > > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status of

> > > > > > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

> > > > > > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an

importanat

> > > > > > >role in the delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> > > > > > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at all.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems here.

> > > > > > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not wrong.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial of

marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th house.

> > > > > > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > > > > > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be effected.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being

aspected

> > > > > > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan

from

> > > > > > >Venus.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent that

> > > > > > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to house B.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Regards

> > > > > > >Anup

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with

India Travel http://in.travel./

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 13, 2009

I think you can figure it out.

, " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269

wrote:

>

> Thanks Ash for quick replies, So this rule is applicable only for the 9th

aspect - only for Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu?

>

> Or, any planets in 5:9 relationship will become samdharmis?

>

> Thanks, SG

>

> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > 9th aspect. In navamsa Ra and Ke are always opposite.

> >

> > , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Ash, so since Rahu and Ketu always aspect each other exactly by degree,

shouldn't they be in same navamsa all the time?

> > >

> > > I don't understand something here, I am sure. Can you please elaborate

and help.

> > >

> > > thanks, SG

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear SG,

> > > >

> > > > They would come together in navamsa. It is covered in the lessons.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash, you mentioned another interesting point that I wasn't aware of -

planets aspecting (not just conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20 are also

samdharmis.

> > > > >

> > > > > I always thought if the planets are in the same sign and

constellation, they are samdharmis.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the pointer,

> > > > >

> > > > > SG

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases if less

than 3deg20 or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will become

samdharmi. So it means that they can replace each other for giving timing of

event.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural samdharmis

conjoin very close then for some of the house they will become more powerful as

they are generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo or Ma and

Su. So for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to become

better. Now which house they conjoin then that is different. We also have to

factor in the sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in d

charts, the sign they are, house they are etc etc etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more data.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The more i think over your question, the more and more permutations

and combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc 29Vi16

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for your your precious comments on the subject

and for explaining us further deep down the theories.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two planets in

close distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in 7th house

and thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say 11th

house when thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It must

surely be depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus

Mercury etc. also play a special role when extremely close together in any

house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that Ghajal

singer Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of

marriage.

> > > > > > > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are given

in.

> > > > > > > >the lessons

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >So,well done everybody !

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see the

> > > > > > > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet for

7th house

> > > > > > > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen after

> > > > > > > >substantial delay for sure.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart

closely.

> > > > > > > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status of

> > > > > > > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

> > > > > > > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an

importanat

> > > > > > > >role in the delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> > > > > > > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at

all.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems

here.

> > > > > > > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not wrong.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial of

marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th house.

> > > > > > > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > > > > > > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be effected.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being

aspected

> > > > > > > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan

from

> > > > > > > >Venus.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent

that

> > > > > > > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to house

B.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Regards

> > > > > > > >Anup

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with

India Travel http://in.travel./

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 13, 2009

Dear SG,

Please study the lesson and think over it and give your opinion.

I think you can figure this out, if not, please have a discussion on it.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

, " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269

wrote:

>

> Thanks Ash for quick replies, So this rule is applicable only for the 9th

aspect - only for Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu?

>

> Or, any planets in 5:9 relationship will become samdharmis?

>

> Thanks, SG

>

> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > 9th aspect. In navamsa Ra and Ke are always opposite.

> >

> > , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Ash, so since Rahu and Ketu always aspect each other exactly by degree,

shouldn't they be in same navamsa all the time?

> > >

> > > I don't understand something here, I am sure. Can you please elaborate

and help.

> > >

> > > thanks, SG

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear SG,

> > > >

> > > > They would come together in navamsa. It is covered in the lessons.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash, you mentioned another interesting point that I wasn't aware of -

planets aspecting (not just conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20 are also

samdharmis.

> > > > >

> > > > > I always thought if the planets are in the same sign and

constellation, they are samdharmis.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the pointer,

> > > > >

> > > > > SG

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases if less

than 3deg20 or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will become

samdharmi. So it means that they can replace each other for giving timing of

event.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural samdharmis

conjoin very close then for some of the house they will become more powerful as

they are generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo or Ma and

Su. So for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to become

better. Now which house they conjoin then that is different. We also have to

factor in the sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in d

charts, the sign they are, house they are etc etc etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more data.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The more i think over your question, the more and more permutations

and combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc 29Vi16

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for your your precious comments on the subject

and for explaining us further deep down the theories.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two planets in

close distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in 7th house

and thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say 11th

house when thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It must

surely be depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus

Mercury etc. also play a special role when extremely close together in any

house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that Ghajal

singer Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of

marriage.

> > > > > > > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are given

in.

> > > > > > > >the lessons

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >So,well done everybody !

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see the

> > > > > > > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet for

7th house

> > > > > > > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen after

> > > > > > > >substantial delay for sure.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart

closely.

> > > > > > > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status of

> > > > > > > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

> > > > > > > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an

importanat

> > > > > > > >role in the delay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> > > > > > > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at

all.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems

here.

> > > > > > > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not wrong.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial of

marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th house.

> > > > > > > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > > > > > > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be effected.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being

aspected

> > > > > > > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan

from

> > > > > > > >Venus.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent

that

> > > > > > > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to house

B.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Regards

> > > > > > > >Anup

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with

India Travel http://in.travel./

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 13, 2009

I understand the 5:9 relationship. However, I was thrown off by the word

" aspect " .

Thanks, SG

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear SG,

>

> Please study the lesson and think over it and give your opinion.

>

> I think you can figure this out, if not, please have a discussion on it.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@>

wrote:

> >

> > Thanks Ash for quick replies, So this rule is applicable only for the 9th

aspect - only for Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu?

> >

> > Or, any planets in 5:9 relationship will become samdharmis?

> >

> > Thanks, SG

> >

> > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > 9th aspect. In navamsa Ra and Ke are always opposite.

> > >

> > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Ash, so since Rahu and Ketu always aspect each other exactly by degree,

shouldn't they be in same navamsa all the time?

> > > >

> > > > I don't understand something here, I am sure. Can you please elaborate

and help.

> > > >

> > > > thanks, SG

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear SG,

> > > > >

> > > > > They would come together in navamsa. It is covered in the lessons.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ash, you mentioned another interesting point that I wasn't aware of

- planets aspecting (not just conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20 are also

samdharmis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I always thought if the planets are in the same sign and

constellation, they are samdharmis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for the pointer,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SG

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases if less

than 3deg20 or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will become

samdharmi. So it means that they can replace each other for giving timing of

event.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural

samdharmis conjoin very close then for some of the house they will become more

powerful as they are generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo

or Ma and Su. So for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to

become better. Now which house they conjoin then that is different. We also

have to factor in the sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in

d charts, the sign they are, house they are etc etc etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more data.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The more i think over your question, the more and more

permutations and combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " nikhlesh

mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc 29Vi16

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for your your precious comments on the

subject and for explaining us further deep down the theories.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two planets in

close distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in 7th house

and thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say 11th

house when thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It must

surely be depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus

Mercury etc. also play a special role when extremely close together in any

house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that

Ghajal singer Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of

marriage.

> > > > > > > > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are given

in.

> > > > > > > > >the lessons

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >So,well done everybody !

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see

the

> > > > > > > > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet for

7th house

> > > > > > > > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen after

> > > > > > > > >substantial delay for sure.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart

closely.

> > > > > > > > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status of

> > > > > > > > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of

you.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

> > > > > > > > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an

importanat

> > > > > > > > >role in the delay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> > > > > > > > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at

all.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems

here.

> > > > > > > > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not

wrong.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial

of marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th

house.

> > > > > > > > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > > > > > > > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be

effected.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being

aspected

> > > > > > > > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan

from

> > > > > > > > >Venus.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent

that

> > > > > > > > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to house

B.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Regards

> > > > > > > > >Anup

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with

India Travel http://in.travel./

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 13, 2009

Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Venus at 4 deg in Libra?

Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Ju at 4 deg in Libra?

Ma at 3 deg in Aries and Venus at 4 deg in libra?

I told ya to discuss? Think more on it :-)

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

, " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269

wrote:

>

> I understand the 5:9 relationship. However, I was thrown off by the word

" aspect " .

>

> Thanks, SG

>

> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear SG,

> >

> > Please study the lesson and think over it and give your opinion.

> >

> > I think you can figure this out, if not, please have a discussion on it.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks Ash for quick replies, So this rule is applicable only for the 9th

aspect - only for Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu?

> > >

> > > Or, any planets in 5:9 relationship will become samdharmis?

> > >

> > > Thanks, SG

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > 9th aspect. In navamsa Ra and Ke are always opposite.

> > > >

> > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash, so since Rahu and Ketu always aspect each other exactly by

degree, shouldn't they be in same navamsa all the time?

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't understand something here, I am sure. Can you please

elaborate and help.

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks, SG

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear SG,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > They would come together in navamsa. It is covered in the lessons.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash, you mentioned another interesting point that I wasn't aware

of - planets aspecting (not just conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20 are

also samdharmis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I always thought if the planets are in the same sign and

constellation, they are samdharmis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for the pointer,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SG

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases if

less than 3deg20 or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will

become samdharmi. So it means that they can replace each other for giving

timing of event.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural

samdharmis conjoin very close then for some of the house they will become more

powerful as they are generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo

or Ma and Su. So for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to

become better. Now which house they conjoin then that is different. We also

have to factor in the sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in

d charts, the sign they are, house they are etc etc etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more data.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The more i think over your question, the more and more

permutations and combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " nikhlesh

mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc

29Vi16

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for your your precious comments on the

subject and for explaining us further deep down the theories.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two planets

in close distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in 7th

house and thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say

11th house when thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It

must surely be depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus

Mercury etc. also play a special role when extremely close together in any

house.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that

Ghajal singer Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > > > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of

marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are

given in.

> > > > > > > > > >the lessons

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >So,well done everybody !

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we see

the

> > > > > > > > > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet

for 7th house

> > > > > > > > > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen

after

> > > > > > > > > >substantial delay for sure.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart

closely.

> > > > > > > > > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and status

of

> > > > > > > > > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all of

you.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is

Mars

> > > > > > > > > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an

importanat

> > > > > > > > > >role in the delay.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> > > > > > > > > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage at

all.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more problems

here.

> > > > > > > > > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not

wrong.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for denial

of marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th

house.

> > > > > > > > > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > > > > > > > > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be

effected.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being

aspected

> > > > > > > > > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in

karaksthan from

> > > > > > > > > >Venus.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such extent

that

> > > > > > > > > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to

house B.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Regards

> > > > > > > > > >Anup

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways

with India Travel http://in.travel./

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 13, 2009

Rahu at 29 deg Aries and Venus in 1st deg of Taurus

Rahu will aspect Venus and yet both are SD.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Venus at 4 deg in Libra?

>

> Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Ju at 4 deg in Libra?

>

> Ma at 3 deg in Aries and Venus at 4 deg in libra?

>

> I told ya to discuss? Think more on it :-)

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@>

wrote:

> >

> > I understand the 5:9 relationship. However, I was thrown off by the word

" aspect " .

> >

> > Thanks, SG

> >

> > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear SG,

> > >

> > > Please study the lesson and think over it and give your opinion.

> > >

> > > I think you can figure this out, if not, please have a discussion on it.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Thanks Ash for quick replies, So this rule is applicable only for the

9th aspect - only for Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu?

> > > >

> > > > Or, any planets in 5:9 relationship will become samdharmis?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks, SG

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > 9th aspect. In navamsa Ra and Ke are always opposite.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ash, so since Rahu and Ketu always aspect each other exactly by

degree, shouldn't they be in same navamsa all the time?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't understand something here, I am sure. Can you please

elaborate and help.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks, SG

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear SG,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > They would come together in navamsa. It is covered in the

lessons.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ash, you mentioned another interesting point that I wasn't aware

of - planets aspecting (not just conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20 are

also samdharmis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I always thought if the planets are in the same sign and

constellation, they are samdharmis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for the pointer,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > SG

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 "

<kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases if

less than 3deg20 or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will

become samdharmi. So it means that they can replace each other for giving

timing of event.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural

samdharmis conjoin very close then for some of the house they will become more

powerful as they are generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo

or Ma and Su. So for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to

become better. Now which house they conjoin then that is different. We also

have to factor in the sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in

d charts, the sign they are, house they are etc etc etc.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more

data.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The more i think over your question, the more and more

permutations and combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " nikhlesh

mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc

29Vi16

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your your precious comments on the

subject and for explaining us further deep down the theories.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two

planets in close distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in

7th house and thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say

11th house when thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It

must surely be depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus

Mercury etc. also play a special role when extremely close together in any

house.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that

Ghajal singer Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > > > > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of

marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are

given in.

> > > > > > > > > > >the lessons

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >So,well done everybody !

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we

see the

> > > > > > > > > > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet

for 7th house

> > > > > > > > > > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen

after

> > > > > > > > > > >substantial delay for sure.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart

closely.

> > > > > > > > > > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and

status of

> > > > > > > > > > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all

of you.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is

Mars

> > > > > > > > > > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an

importanat

> > > > > > > > > > >role in the delay.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> > > > > > > > > > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage

at all.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more

problems here.

> > > > > > > > > > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not

wrong.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for

denial of marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th

house.

> > > > > > > > > > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > > > > > > > > > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be

effected.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is

being aspected

> > > > > > > > > > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in

karaksthan from

> > > > > > > > > > >Venus.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such

extent that

> > > > > > > > > > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to

house B.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Regards

> > > > > > > > > > >Anup

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways

with India Travel http://in.travel./

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 13, 2009

I meant Rahu at 29 deg of Aries and Guru at 1 deg of Taurus.

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Rahu at 29 deg Aries and Venus in 1st deg of Taurus

>

> Rahu will aspect Venus and yet both are SD.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Venus at 4 deg in Libra?

> >

> > Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Ju at 4 deg in Libra?

> >

> > Ma at 3 deg in Aries and Venus at 4 deg in libra?

> >

> > I told ya to discuss? Think more on it :-)

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I understand the 5:9 relationship. However, I was thrown off by the word

" aspect " .

> > >

> > > Thanks, SG

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear SG,

> > > >

> > > > Please study the lesson and think over it and give your opinion.

> > > >

> > > > I think you can figure this out, if not, please have a discussion on it.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks Ash for quick replies, So this rule is applicable only for the

9th aspect - only for Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu?

> > > > >

> > > > > Or, any planets in 5:9 relationship will become samdharmis?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks, SG

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 9th aspect. In navamsa Ra and Ke are always opposite.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash, so since Rahu and Ketu always aspect each other exactly by

degree, shouldn't they be in same navamsa all the time?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't understand something here, I am sure. Can you please

elaborate and help.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks, SG

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear SG,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > They would come together in navamsa. It is covered in the

lessons.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ash, you mentioned another interesting point that I wasn't

aware of - planets aspecting (not just conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20

are also samdharmis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I always thought if the planets are in the same sign and

constellation, they are samdharmis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the pointer,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SG

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 "

<kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases

if less than 3deg20 or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will

become samdharmi. So it means that they can replace each other for giving

timing of event.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural

samdharmis conjoin very close then for some of the house they will become more

powerful as they are generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo

or Ma and Su. So for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to

become better. Now which house they conjoin then that is different. We also

have to factor in the sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in

d charts, the sign they are, house they are etc etc etc.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more

data.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The more i think over your question, the more and more

permutations and combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " nikhlesh

mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc

29Vi16

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your your precious comments on the

subject and for explaining us further deep down the theories.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two

planets in close distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in

7th house and thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say

11th house when thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It

must surely be depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus

plus Mercury etc. also play a special role when extremely close together in any

house.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember

that Ghajal singer Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and

Group,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of

marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are

given in.

> > > > > > > > > > > >the lessons

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >So,well done everybody !

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we

see the

> > > > > > > > > > > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the

worsheet for 7th house

> > > > > > > > > > > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen

after

> > > > > > > > > > > >substantial delay for sure.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart

closely.

> > > > > > > > > > > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and

status of

> > > > > > > > > > > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all

of you.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven

is Mars

> > > > > > > > > > > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played

an importanat

> > > > > > > > > > > >role in the delay.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th

house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no

marriage at all.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more

problems here.

> > > > > > > > > > > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not

wrong.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for

denial of marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th

house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > > > > > > > > > > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be

effected.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is

being aspected

> > > > > > > > > > > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in

karaksthan from

> > > > > > > > > > > >Venus.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord

here.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such

extent that

> > > > > > > > > > > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to

house B.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >Anup

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways

with India Travel http://in.travel./

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 13, 2009

Sorry, Ignore my previous mail. In haste I made a mistake.

It should be Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Ma at 4 deg in Libra.

It should be Ju in 3 deg in Aries and Ma in 4 deg of Libra

It should be Ve in 3 deg in Aries and Ma in 4 deg of Libra

So here they all will aspect each other having 7th sight but are SD.

So like that.

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Venus at 4 deg in Libra?

>

> Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Ju at 4 deg in Libra?

>

> Ma at 3 deg in Aries and Venus at 4 deg in libra?

>

> I told ya to discuss? Think more on it :-)

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@>

wrote:

> >

> > I understand the 5:9 relationship. However, I was thrown off by the word

" aspect " .

> >

> > Thanks, SG

> >

> > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear SG,

> > >

> > > Please study the lesson and think over it and give your opinion.

> > >

> > > I think you can figure this out, if not, please have a discussion on it.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Thanks Ash for quick replies, So this rule is applicable only for the

9th aspect - only for Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu?

> > > >

> > > > Or, any planets in 5:9 relationship will become samdharmis?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks, SG

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > 9th aspect. In navamsa Ra and Ke are always opposite.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ash, so since Rahu and Ketu always aspect each other exactly by

degree, shouldn't they be in same navamsa all the time?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't understand something here, I am sure. Can you please

elaborate and help.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks, SG

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear SG,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > They would come together in navamsa. It is covered in the

lessons.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ash, you mentioned another interesting point that I wasn't aware

of - planets aspecting (not just conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20 are

also samdharmis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I always thought if the planets are in the same sign and

constellation, they are samdharmis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for the pointer,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > SG

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 "

<kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases if

less than 3deg20 or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will

become samdharmi. So it means that they can replace each other for giving

timing of event.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural

samdharmis conjoin very close then for some of the house they will become more

powerful as they are generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo

or Ma and Su. So for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to

become better. Now which house they conjoin then that is different. We also

have to factor in the sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in

d charts, the sign they are, house they are etc etc etc.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more

data.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The more i think over your question, the more and more

permutations and combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " nikhlesh

mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc

29Vi16

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your your precious comments on the

subject and for explaining us further deep down the theories.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two

planets in close distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in

7th house and thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say

11th house when thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It

must surely be depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus

Mercury etc. also play a special role when extremely close together in any

house.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember that

Ghajal singer Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > > > > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of

marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are

given in.

> > > > > > > > > > >the lessons

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >So,well done everybody !

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we

see the

> > > > > > > > > > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the worsheet

for 7th house

> > > > > > > > > > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen

after

> > > > > > > > > > >substantial delay for sure.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart

closely.

> > > > > > > > > > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and

status of

> > > > > > > > > > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all

of you.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is

Mars

> > > > > > > > > > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an

importanat

> > > > > > > > > > >role in the delay.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> > > > > > > > > > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no marriage

at all.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more

problems here.

> > > > > > > > > > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not

wrong.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for

denial of marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th

house.

> > > > > > > > > > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > > > > > > > > > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be

effected.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is

being aspected

> > > > > > > > > > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in

karaksthan from

> > > > > > > > > > >Venus.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such

extent that

> > > > > > > > > > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to

house B.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Regards

> > > > > > > > > > >Anup

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways

with India Travel http://in.travel./

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 13, 2009

So these are specific degrees when they can be samdharmis. In other words, a

'blanket' statement that two planets aspecting each other with orb <3deg20 will

have same navamsa and hence will be samdharmis is not true.

But I understand what you are trying to say. No more discussion is required.

Thanks SG

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Sorry, Ignore my previous mail. In haste I made a mistake.

>

> It should be Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Ma at 4 deg in Libra.

>

> It should be Ju in 3 deg in Aries and Ma in 4 deg of Libra

>

> It should be Ve in 3 deg in Aries and Ma in 4 deg of Libra

>

> So here they all will aspect each other having 7th sight but are SD.

>

> So like that.

>

> , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Venus at 4 deg in Libra?

> >

> > Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Ju at 4 deg in Libra?

> >

> > Ma at 3 deg in Aries and Venus at 4 deg in libra?

> >

> > I told ya to discuss? Think more on it :-)

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I understand the 5:9 relationship. However, I was thrown off by the word

" aspect " .

> > >

> > > Thanks, SG

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear SG,

> > > >

> > > > Please study the lesson and think over it and give your opinion.

> > > >

> > > > I think you can figure this out, if not, please have a discussion on it.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks Ash for quick replies, So this rule is applicable only for the

9th aspect - only for Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu?

> > > > >

> > > > > Or, any planets in 5:9 relationship will become samdharmis?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks, SG

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 9th aspect. In navamsa Ra and Ke are always opposite.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash, so since Rahu and Ketu always aspect each other exactly by

degree, shouldn't they be in same navamsa all the time?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't understand something here, I am sure. Can you please

elaborate and help.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks, SG

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear SG,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > They would come together in navamsa. It is covered in the

lessons.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " sgupta2269 "

<sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ash, you mentioned another interesting point that I wasn't

aware of - planets aspecting (not just conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20

are also samdharmis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I always thought if the planets are in the same sign and

constellation, they are samdharmis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the pointer,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SG

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 "

<kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > When to planets are very close in degree i.e in MOST cases

if less than 3deg20 or even in the aspect having orb or < 3deg20 then they will

become samdharmi. So it means that they can replace each other for giving

timing of event.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This thing is covered via our laws of SD. When 2 natural

samdharmis conjoin very close then for some of the house they will become more

powerful as they are generally yogakarak for each other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo

or Ma and Su. So for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap, Lib and Tau they will try to

become better. Now which house they conjoin then that is different. We also

have to factor in the sign and the house and also if they are in 6,8,12 house in

d charts, the sign they are, house they are etc etc etc.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So, to get most accurate result, we need to have far more

data.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The more i think over your question, the more and more

permutations and combinations arise i.e. they tend to become exceptions.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " nikhlesh

mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967, 13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc

29Vi16

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your your precious comments on the

subject and for explaining us further deep down the theories.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a general question here pertaining to two

planets in close distance to each other (In the above chart Sa & Mo are close in

7th house and thus becoming one of the several reason to afect marriage).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > What shall be the effects of Saturn & Moon together in say

11th house when thet are less than a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It

must surely be depending also upon the raashi of that house.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Do other set of planets say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus

plus Mercury etc. also play a special role when extremely close together in any

house.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Though I don't have the chart right now but I remember

that Ghajal singer Shri Jagjit Singh has such combinations in his chart.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Can you please throw some light on this facet.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Ramesh ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and

Group,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >All of you have given appropriate reasoning for denial of

marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > > >By solving such chart we come to know many laws which are

given in.

> > > > > > > > > > > >the lessons

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >So,well done everybody !

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >This chart has different approach in the sense that if we

see the

> > > > > > > > > > > >chart leaving we factors aside all planets in the

worsheet for 7th house

> > > > > > > > > > > >has more than 12 points so,we can say marriage can happen

after

> > > > > > > > > > > >substantial delay for sure.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >But in this case,there is no marriage if we see the chart

closely.

> > > > > > > > > > > >We can wrongly land somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Thats why,we should observe any chart more keenly and

status of

> > > > > > > > > > > >each planet before reaching to any conclusion.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Let me give and repeat few points which were given by all

of you.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Karak and mool karak Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven

is Mars

> > > > > > > > > > > >which is apecting 7th house.Ven and Sun distance played

an importanat

> > > > > > > > > > > >role in the delay.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Moon and Sat are with less than 4 bindus and in 7th

house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >So this is a yog of a very delayed marriage or no

marriage at all.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Even also Sat as 6th lord in 7th house,creating more

problems here.

> > > > > > > > > > > >But this should be only if marriage was there if i am not

wrong.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >So role of karakansha is also playing a great role for

denial of marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Sun and Mer both are SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th

house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >Here Sat is controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > > > > > > > > > > >We can think status of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be

effected.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Jupitor is in constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is

being aspected

> > > > > > > > > > > >by 6th lord too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in

karaksthan from

> > > > > > > > > > > >Venus.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >So we can say all planets having flavour of 6th lord

here.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >In such case,an event can be denied or delayed to such

extent that

> > > > > > > > > > > >one can not enjoy the happiness of an event pertaining to

house B.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >Anup

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways

with India Travel http://in.travel./

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 13, 2009

One is required to apply all laws with common sense.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of sgupta2269

Wednesday May 13, 2009 6:07

PM

Subject:

Re: Denial of Marriage-A Chart From Satara Workshop

So these are specific degrees when they can be

samdharmis. In other words, a 'blanket' statement that two planets aspecting

each other with orb <3deg20 will have same navamsa and hence will be

samdharmis is not true.

But I understand what you are trying to say. No more discussion is required.

Thanks SG

,

" ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Sorry, Ignore my previous mail. In haste I made a mistake.

>

> It should be Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Ma at 4 deg in Libra.

>

> It should be Ju in 3 deg in Aries and Ma in 4 deg of Libra

>

> It should be Ve in 3 deg in Aries and Ma in 4 deg of Libra

>

> So here they all will aspect each other having 7th sight but are SD.

>

> So like that.

>

> ,

" ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Venus at 4 deg in Libra?

> >

> > Sa at 3 deg in Aries and Ju at 4 deg in Libra?

> >

> > Ma at 3 deg in Aries and Venus at 4 deg in libra?

> >

> > I told ya to discuss? Think more on it :-)

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ,

" sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I understand the 5:9 relationship. However, I was thrown off by

the word " aspect " .

> > >

> > > Thanks, SG

> > >

> > > ,

" ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear SG,

> > > >

> > > > Please study the lesson and think over it and give your

opinion.

> > > >

> > > > I think you can figure this out, if not, please have a

discussion on it.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > > ,

" sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks Ash for quick replies, So this rule is

applicable only for the 9th aspect - only for Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu?

> > > > >

> > > > > Or, any planets in 5:9 relationship will become

samdharmis?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks, SG

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

" ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 9th aspect. In navamsa Ra and Ke are always

opposite.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

" sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash, so since Rahu and Ketu always aspect

each other exactly by degree, shouldn't they be in same navamsa all the time?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't understand something here, I am

sure. Can you please elaborate and help.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks, SG

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

" ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear SG,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > They would come together in navamsa. It

is covered in the lessons.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

" sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ash, you mentioned another

interesting point that I wasn't aware of - planets aspecting (not just

conjoined) each other within orb < 3deg20 are also samdharmis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I always thought if the planets

are in the same sign and constellation, they are samdharmis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the pointer,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SG

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

" ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > When to planets are very

close in degree i.e in MOST cases if less than 3deg20 or even in the aspect

having orb or < 3deg20 then they will become samdharmi. So it means that

they can replace each other for giving timing of event.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This thing is covered via our

laws of SD. When 2 natural samdharmis conjoin very close then for some of the

house they will become more powerful as they are generally yogakarak for each

other. Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo or Ma and Su. So for Leo or Cancer or Aqu, Cap,

Lib and Tau they will try to become better. Now which house they conjoin then

that is different. We also have to factor in the sign and the house and also if

they are in 6,8,12 house in d charts, the sign they are, house they are etc etc

etc.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So, to get most accurate

result, we need to have far more data.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The more i think over your

question, the more and more permutations and combinations arise i.e. they tend

to become exceptions.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

" nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 30.06.1967,

13:31 hrs, 15.N.4; 74.E.28, Asc 29Vi16

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your your

precious comments on the subject and for explaining us further deep down the

theories.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a general

question here pertaining to two planets in close distance to each other (In the

above chart Sa & Mo are close in 7th house and thus becoming one of the

several reason to afect marriage).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > What shall be the

effects of Saturn & Moon together in say 11th house when thet are less than

a degree or rather at almost same degrees. It must surely be depending also

upon the raashi of that house.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Do other set of planets

say Jupiter plus Venus or Venus plus Mercury etc. also play a special role when

extremely close together in any house.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Though I don't have the

chart right now but I remember that Ghajal singer Shri Jagjit Singh has such

combinations in his chart.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Can you please throw some

light on this facet.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 13 May 2009

11:04:14 +0530 wrote

> > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Ramesh

ji,Prabha ji,Nikhlesh ji,Hossein ji and Group,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >All of you have

given appropriate reasoning for denial of marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > > >By solving such

chart we come to know many laws which are given in.

> > > > > > > > > > > >the lessons

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >So,well done

everybody !

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >This chart has

different approach in the sense that if we see the

> > > > > > > > > > > >chart leaving we

factors aside all planets in the worsheet for 7th house

> > > > > > > > > > > >has more than 12

points so,we can say marriage can happen after

> > > > > > > > > > > >substantial delay

for sure.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >But in this

case,there is no marriage if we see the chart closely.

> > > > > > > > > > > >We can wrongly land

somewhere predicting the marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Thats why,we should

observe any chart more keenly and status of

> > > > > > > > > > > >each planet before

reaching to any conclusion.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Let me give and

repeat few points which were given by all of you.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Karak and mool karak

Ven is spoiled.Navamsa lord of Ven is Mars

> > > > > > > > > > > >which is apecting

7th house.Ven and Sun distance played an importanat

> > > > > > > > > > > >role in the delay.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Moon and Sat are

with less than 4 bindus and in 7th house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >So this is a yog of

a very delayed marriage or no marriage at all.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Even also Sat as 6th

lord in 7th house,creating more problems here.

> > > > > > > > > > > >But this should be

only if marriage was there if i am not wrong.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >So role of karakansha

is also playing a great role for denial of marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Sun and Mer both are

SD to Sat,the 6th lord being in 10th house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >Here Sat is

controlling both Sun and Mer.

> > > > > > > > > > > >We can think status

of 3rd,6th,5th houses which must be effected.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Jupitor is in

constellation of 6th lord Sat and Mras is being aspected

> > > > > > > > > > > >by 6th lord

too.Venus is in 12th house and Sat is in karaksthan from

> > > > > > > > > > > >Venus.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >So we can say all

planets having flavour of 6th lord here.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >In such case,an

event can be denied or delayed to such extent that

> > > > > > > > > > > >one can not enjoy

the happiness of an event pertaining to house B.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >Anup

> > > > > > > > > > > >

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