Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 In this chart, 4th and 12th lords (Venus and Saturn) are related to 2nd and 10th lords (Jupiter and Mars) by aspects. This is one of the rules for relationships with opposite sex as mentioned in lessons. Saturn in 7th with only 1 point - unhappy marriage. Marriage occured in Mercury sub period, and Mercury has less than 12 points for the 7th house. It is one of the conditions for separation/divorce. My question is how do we find out his anti-social activities. What combinations are responsible for it. SG -- In , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > Here is another chart that was taken up by guruji in Satara Workshop > to explain the finer things of a love marriage leading to a separation. > > The male is 2 years younger to his wife and having an average education. > He is running his own shuttering business in a town > He is involved in anti-social activites since many years. > > So here is the birth detail of the native. > > 22nd Feb 1978 > 8.00am > Lat 32 N 04 Longi 75 E 28 IST > > > Lagna is 29 Aq 18 > > All started in Feb2002 when they were involved in a relationship. > Marriage date is 4thApr 2004 and daughter on 29th Dec2004. > > He filed an divorce application on 16th apr2007. > Now they are living separately since Dec2008 > > I hope the members who were unable to attend the Workshop at Satara > due to their personal reasons can also solve the charts and clear their > doubts if any. > > > Regards > Anup > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Dear S Gupta ji, If you can give proper reasoning event wise,that would be better way to understand for all other members also who want to learn. Do not jump staright to the antra/worksheet without noticing the planet's status and their effects step by step.What was the native psychology and behaviour during the year 2000 onwards till his marriage and how the planets affect the circumstances which consequently lead this marriage to a separation,i think this will help you the assess the event antrawise. I can understand that you are going through the lessons,so practise on more charts by the time you would learn to fix the timing also. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 14/5/09, sgupta2269 <sgupta2269 wrote: sgupta2269 <sgupta2269 Re: Love Marriage And Separation-Another Chart From Satara Workshop Date: Thursday, 14 May, 2009, 9:43 PM In this chart, 4th and 12th lords (Venus and Saturn) are related to 2nd and 10th lords (Jupiter and Mars) by aspects. This is one of the rules for relationships with opposite sex as mentioned in lessons.Saturn in 7th with only 1 point - unhappy marriage. Marriage occured in Mercury sub period, and Mercury has less than 12 points for the 7th house. It is one of the conditions for separation/divorce.My question is how do we find out his anti-social activities. What combinations are responsible for it.SG-- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Group,> > > Here is another chart that was taken up by guruji in Satara Workshop > to explain the finer things of a love marriage leading to a separation.> > The male is 2 years younger to his wife and having an average education.> He is running his own shuttering business in a town> He is involved in anti-social activites since many years. > > So here is the birth detail of the native.> > 22nd Feb 1978> 8.00am> Lat 32 N 04 Longi 75 E 28 IST> > > Lagna is 29 Aq 18> > All started in Feb2002 when they were involved in a relationship.> Marriage date is 4thApr 2004 and daughter on 29th Dec2004. > > He filed an divorce application on 16th apr2007.> Now they are living separately since Dec2008> > I hope the members who were unable to attend the Workshop at Satara> due to their personal reasons can also solve the charts and clear their> doubts if any. > > > Regards> Anup > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta. cricket.. com> Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 In this chart, Saturn is in 7th from Venus, and thus spoils Venus. During 2000, the native was running venus/Saturn period. Saturn in 7th with less point, and in 7th from Venus spoiled Venus's quality but provided increase in the power of Venus to give relationship with opposite sex. So during this time, he must have started relationship with women purely for lust and no emotional attachments. After Saturn, the native ran venus/mercury period. Mercury in 1st with more that 4 points has a malefic influence on 7th. Also, Mercury in its period will give results for 4th, 8th, 12th, 11th, 3rd house. I can't say what results it will give but looking at 8th house - occult, secrets, bad things and looking at 12th house - bed pleasures. Since the significators for marriage are spoiled, the marriage happened during the period of Mercury (less than 12 points). Then came venus/ketu period. Ketu is samdharmi of Jupiter, Saturn and Mars. Mars is in 6th house, so looses power; Saturn again with less than 4 points in 7th will be bad for 7th house significations. So, during this period, the relationship with wife must have been rocky. I don't know how to interpet Ketu's samdharmi Jupiter - what role did it play? Juptier has more than 12 points - so, it fits the rule that whenever the marriage happens during low point planet's period, it breaks during high point planet's period. Hence the seperation happened in Jupiter's period. Thanks, SG , dalh_1 wrote: > > > > > Dear S Gupta ji, > > If you can give proper reasoning event wise,that would be better way > to understand for all other members also who want to learn. > > > Do not jump staright to the antra/worksheet without noticing the planet's > status and their effects step by step.What was the native psychology > and behaviour during the year 2000 onwards till his marriage and how the > planets affect the circumstances which consequently lead this marriage > to a separation,i think this will help you the assess the event antrawise. > > > I can understand that you are going through the lessons,so practise > on more charts by the time you would learn to fix the timing also. > > > Regards > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 14/5/09, sgupta2269 <sgupta2269 wrote: > > > sgupta2269 <sgupta2269 > Re: Love Marriage And Separation-Another Chart From Satara Workshop > > Thursday, 14 May, 2009, 9:43 PM > > In this chart, 4th and 12th lords (Venus and Saturn) are related to 2nd and 10th lords (Jupiter and Mars) by aspects. This is one of the rules for relationships with opposite sex as mentioned in lessons. > > Saturn in 7th with only 1 point - unhappy marriage. Marriage occured in Mercury sub period, and Mercury has less than 12 points for the 7th house. It is one of the conditions for separation/divorce. > > My question is how do we find out his anti-social activities. What combinations are responsible for it. > > SG > > -- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Here is another chart that was taken up by guruji in Satara Workshop > > to explain the finer things of a love marriage leading to a separation. > > > > The male is 2 years younger to his wife and having an average education.. > > He is running his own shuttering business in a town > > He is involved in anti-social activites since many years. > > > > So here is the birth detail of the native. > > > > 22nd Feb 1978 > > 8.00am > > Lat 32 N 04 Longi 75 E 28 IST > > > > > > Lagna is 29 Aq 18 > > > > All started in Feb2002 when they were involved in a relationship. > > Marriage date is 4thApr 2004 and daughter on 29th Dec2004. > > > > He filed an divorce application on 16th apr2007. > > Now they are living separately since Dec2008 > > > > I hope the members who were unable to attend the Workshop at Satara > > due to their personal reasons can also solve the charts and clear their > > doubts if any. > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta. cricket.. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Dear Anupji and List MembersHere is my analysis of the chart:-LoA: Ju; LoB: Su; LoC: Ju; LoD: Ve; LoE: Sa; RK: Ve; 6L: Mo1. Sa aspects LoA in D9, is in HoB, and aspects LoC - so there is Sa delay 2. Ju is LoA and aspects LoB - so there is Ju delay too.3. Sa delay gets over on Sept 2004. And at that time Ju delay doesnt get over. Ju delay gets over on Sept 2005 when Ju aspects 7th Lord.So I am unable to find why he got married on Apr 2004. There is all indication thatthere is a love marriage. Ju as karaka, and Ve as Root Karaka doesnt look spoiled.Except that Ve is with 6L Mo in D9Even if assuming he married in Me antra in Apr 2004, Me has low points in 7th house.Therefore the problem would have started in Su antra in Su MD - Su has more points in 7th houseThanksPrabha Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Dear list, I just had a thought and I wanted your opinion. 3rd from any house shows the 'death' of that house. If we look at separation/divorce which ,correct me if I'm wrong, is an end to marriage, then looking at 9H (3rd from 7H) should give us a justification . In this chart divorce was filed in Ju antra (LoE of 9H) and the couple lived separately in Sa antra (the strongest significator of 9H) what is your thought. Hari. , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > Here is another chart that was taken up by guruji in Satara Workshop > to explain the finer things of a love marriage leading to a separation. > > The male is 2 years younger to his wife and having an average education. > He is running his own shuttering business in a town > He is involved in anti-social activites since many years. > > So here is the birth detail of the native. > > 22nd Feb 1978 > 8.00am > Lat 32 N 04 Longi 75 E 28 IST > > > Lagna is 29 Aq 18 > > All started in Feb2002 when they were involved in a relationship. > Marriage date is 4thApr 2004 and daughter on 29th Dec2004. > > He filed an divorce application on 16th apr2007. > Now they are living separately since Dec2008 > > I hope the members who were unable to attend the Workshop at Satara > due to their personal reasons can also solve the charts and clear their > doubts if any. > > > Regards > Anup > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Hari, can you please point me to the lesson where this rule aobut the 3rd house is mentioned? Please realize that I am not challenging what you wrote but want to read more about it. Thanks SG , " Hari " <vaastro wrote: > > > Dear list, > > I just had a thought and I wanted your opinion. 3rd from any house shows the 'death' of that house. > If we look at separation/divorce which ,correct me if I'm wrong, is an end to marriage, then looking at 9H (3rd from 7H) should give us a justification . > > In this chart divorce was filed in Ju antra (LoE of 9H) and the couple lived separately in Sa antra (the strongest significator of 9H) > > what is your thought. > > Hari. > > , " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Here is another chart that was taken up by guruji in Satara Workshop > > to explain the finer things of a love marriage leading to a separation. > > > > The male is 2 years younger to his wife and having an average education. > > He is running his own shuttering business in a town > > He is involved in anti-social activites since many years. > > > > So here is the birth detail of the native. > > > > 22nd Feb 1978 > > 8.00am > > Lat 32 N 04 Longi 75 E 28 IST > > > > > > Lagna is 29 Aq 18 > > > > All started in Feb2002 when they were involved in a relationship. > > Marriage date is 4thApr 2004 and daughter on 29th Dec2004. > > > > He filed an divorce application on 16th apr2007. > > Now they are living separately since Dec2008 > > > > I hope the members who were unable to attend the Workshop at Satara > > due to their personal reasons can also solve the charts and clear their > > doubts if any. > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Prabha ji, Please refer to this note, point 5 http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QGEUSi8fz_Ui1SP3XYJRMAzn3jH76hm58bpwM80RbjbOTgeU_ud\ urYrzU5Z7GfewPRQsNN34va9kwUC_ognS_KbetYLbwg/Krushna%27s%20Notebook/KrushnaP1.gif Now ,I am not saying that this is a rule, I was tying to interpret this in the context of marriage and separation. I may be wrong of course , just that I want to raise a discussion point. Hari , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269 wrote: > > Hari, can you please point me to the lesson where this rule aobut the 3rd house is mentioned? Please realize that I am not challenging what you wrote but want to read more about it. > > Thanks SG > > , " Hari " <vaastro@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list, > > > > I just had a thought and I wanted your opinion. 3rd from any house shows the 'death' of that house. > > If we look at separation/divorce which ,correct me if I'm wrong, is an end to marriage, then looking at 9H (3rd from 7H) should give us a justification . > > > > In this chart divorce was filed in Ju antra (LoE of 9H) and the couple lived separately in Sa antra (the strongest significator of 9H) > > > > what is your thought. > > > > Hari. > > > > , " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > Here is another chart that was taken up by guruji in Satara Workshop > > > to explain the finer things of a love marriage leading to a separation. > > > > > > The male is 2 years younger to his wife and having an average education. > > > He is running his own shuttering business in a town > > > He is involved in anti-social activites since many years. > > > > > > So here is the birth detail of the native. > > > > > > 22nd Feb 1978 > > > 8.00am > > > Lat 32 N 04 Longi 75 E 28 IST > > > > > > > > > Lagna is 29 Aq 18 > > > > > > All started in Feb2002 when they were involved in a relationship. > > > Marriage date is 4thApr 2004 and daughter on 29th Dec2004. > > > > > > He filed an divorce application on 16th apr2007. > > > Now they are living separately since Dec2008 > > > > > > I hope the members who were unable to attend the Workshop at Satara > > > due to their personal reasons can also solve the charts and clear their > > > doubts if any. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Hari, I think Karaktva has different meaning than saying that 3rd house denotes the death of 1st house. karaktva is 8th from 8th house of house B. That makes is a " root karak " . If 5th house is for Children, the 3rd house from 5th (that is 7th house) is karaktva for the death of the child. 7th house is 8th house from 12th house (that in turn is 8th house from 5th). Some other list members may have thoughts on this too. Thanks, SG , " Hari " <vaastro wrote: > > > Prabha ji, > > Please refer to this note, point 5 > > http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QGEUSi8fz_Ui1SP3XYJRMAzn3jH76hm58bpwM80RbjbOTgeU_ud\ urYrzU5Z7GfewPRQsNN34va9kwUC_ognS_KbetYLbwg/Krushna%27s%20Notebook/KrushnaP1.gif > > > Now ,I am not saying that this is a rule, I was tying to interpret this in the context of marriage and separation. I may be wrong of course , just that I want to raise a discussion point. > > Hari > > > , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269@> wrote: > > > > Hari, can you please point me to the lesson where this rule aobut the 3rd house is mentioned? Please realize that I am not challenging what you wrote but want to read more about it. > > > > Thanks SG > > > > , " Hari " <vaastro@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear list, > > > > > > I just had a thought and I wanted your opinion. 3rd from any house shows the 'death' of that house. > > > If we look at separation/divorce which ,correct me if I'm wrong, is an end to marriage, then looking at 9H (3rd from 7H) should give us a justification . > > > > > > In this chart divorce was filed in Ju antra (LoE of 9H) and the couple lived separately in Sa antra (the strongest significator of 9H) > > > > > > what is your thought. > > > > > > Hari. > > > > > > , " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is another chart that was taken up by guruji in Satara Workshop > > > > to explain the finer things of a love marriage leading to a separation. > > > > > > > > The male is 2 years younger to his wife and having an average education. > > > > He is running his own shuttering business in a town > > > > He is involved in anti-social activites since many years. > > > > > > > > So here is the birth detail of the native. > > > > > > > > 22nd Feb 1978 > > > > 8.00am > > > > Lat 32 N 04 Longi 75 E 28 IST > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna is 29 Aq 18 > > > > > > > > All started in Feb2002 when they were involved in a relationship. > > > > Marriage date is 4thApr 2004 and daughter on 29th Dec2004. > > > > > > > > He filed an divorce application on 16th apr2007. > > > > Now they are living separately since Dec2008 > > > > > > > > I hope the members who were unable to attend the Workshop at Satara > > > > due to their personal reasons can also solve the charts and clear their > > > > doubts if any. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Dear S G, This is right approach to see how the things turn up in years which might affect the events of different antras of any chart. One have to follow person's psychology during contemporary phases year after year and how the person will react to this which can lead for the event to happen. So your analysis for this chart is proper somehow,i think. But still you miss few things which are equally important which justify the events. Lets wait what other members say for this. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 19/5/09, sgupta2269 <sgupta2269 wrote: sgupta2269 <sgupta2269 Re: Love Marriage And Separation-Another Chart From Satara Workshop Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 9:49 PM In this chart, Saturn is in 7th from Venus, and thus spoils Venus. During 2000, the native was running venus/Saturn period. Saturn in 7th with less point, and in 7th from Venus spoiled Venus's quality but provided increase in the power of Venus to give relationship with opposite sex. So during this time, he must have started relationship with women purely for lust and no emotional attachments. After Saturn, the native ran venus/mercury period. Mercury in 1st with more that 4 points has a malefic influence on 7th. Also, Mercury in its period will give results for 4th, 8th, 12th, 11th, 3rd house. I can't say what results it will give but looking at 8th house - occult, secrets, bad things and looking at 12th house - bed pleasures. Since the significators for marriage are spoiled, the marriage happened during the period of Mercury (less than 12 points). Then came venus/ketu period. Ketu is samdharmi of Jupiter, Saturn and Mars. Mars is in 6th house, so looses power; Saturn again with less than 4 points in 7th will be bad for 7th house significations. So, during this period, the relationship with wife must have been rocky. I don't know how to interpet Ketu's samdharmi Jupiter - what role did it play?Juptier has more than 12 points - so, it fits the rule that whenever the marriage happens during low point planet's period, it breaks during high point planet's period. Hence the seperation happened in Jupiter's period.Thanks, SGastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, dalh_1 wrote:>> > > > Dear S Gupta ji,> > If you can give proper reasoning event wise,that would be better way> to understand for all other members also who want to learn.> > > Do not jump staright to the antra/worksheet without noticing the planet's > status and their effects step by step.What was the native psychology> and behaviour during the year 2000 onwards till his marriage and how the> planets affect the circumstances which consequently lead this marriage > to a separation,i think this will help you the assess the event antrawise.> > > I can understand that you are going through the lessons,so practise > on more charts by the time you would learn to fix the timing also.> > > Regards> Anup> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 14/5/09, sgupta2269 <sgupta2269@ ...> wrote:> > > sgupta2269 <sgupta2269@ ...>> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Love Marriage And Separation-Another Chart From Satara Workshop> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Thursday, 14 May, 2009, 9:43 PM> > > > > > > > > In this chart, 4th and 12th lords (Venus and Saturn) are related to 2nd and 10th lords (Jupiter and Mars) by aspects. This is one of the rules for relationships with opposite sex as mentioned in lessons.> > Saturn in 7th with only 1 point - unhappy marriage. Marriage occured in Mercury sub period, and Mercury has less than 12 points for the 7th house. It is one of the conditions for separation/divorce.> > My question is how do we find out his anti-social activities. What combinations are responsible for it.> > SG> > -- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> >> > Dear Group,> > > > > > Here is another chart that was taken up by guruji in Satara Workshop > > to explain the finer things of a love marriage leading to a separation.> > > > The male is 2 years younger to his wife and having an average education..> > He is running his own shuttering business in a town> > He is involved in anti-social activites since many years. > > > > So here is the birth detail of the native.> > > > 22nd Feb 1978> > 8.00am> > Lat 32 N 04 Longi 75 E 28 IST> > > > > > Lagna is 29 Aq 18> > > > All started in Feb2002 when they were involved in a relationship.> > Marriage date is 4thApr 2004 and daughter on 29th Dec2004. > > > > He filed an divorce application on 16th apr2007.> > Now they are living separately since Dec2008> > > > I hope the members who were unable to attend the Workshop at Satara> > due to their personal reasons can also solve the charts and clear their> > doubts if any. > > > > > > Regards> > Anup > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Anup, Thanks for confirming that my approach and analysis are correct. For the things I missed, can you please give me some pointers so I can look for them. Thanks, SG , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear S G, > > > This is right approach to see how the things turn up in years which > might affect the events of different antras of any chart. > > > One have to follow person's psychology during contemporary phases > year after year and how the person will react to this which can lead > for the event to happen. > > > So your analysis for this chart is proper somehow,i think. > But still you miss few things which are equally important which justify > the events. > > Lets wait what other members say for this. > > > Regards > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 19/5/09, sgupta2269 <sgupta2269 wrote: > > > sgupta2269 <sgupta2269 > Re: Love Marriage And Separation-Another Chart From Satara Workshop > > Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 9:49 PM > > In this chart, Saturn is in 7th from Venus, and thus spoils Venus. During 2000, the native was running venus/Saturn period. Saturn in 7th with less point, and in 7th from Venus spoiled Venus's quality but provided increase in the power of Venus to give relationship with opposite sex. So during this time, he must have started relationship with women purely for lust and no emotional attachments. > > After Saturn, the native ran venus/mercury period. Mercury in 1st with more that 4 points has a malefic influence on 7th. Also, Mercury in its period will give results for 4th, 8th, 12th, 11th, 3rd house. I can't say what results it will give but looking at 8th house - occult, secrets, bad things and looking at 12th house - bed pleasures. Since the significators for marriage are spoiled, the marriage happened during the period of Mercury (less than 12 points). > > Then came venus/ketu period. Ketu is samdharmi of Jupiter, Saturn and Mars. Mars is in 6th house, so looses power; Saturn again with less than 4 points in 7th will be bad for 7th house significations. So, during this period, the relationship with wife must have been rocky. I don't know how to interpet Ketu's samdharmi Jupiter - what role did it play? > > Juptier has more than 12 points - so, it fits the rule that whenever the marriage happens during low point planet's period, it breaks during high point planet's period. Hence the seperation happened in Jupiter's period. > > Thanks, SG > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, dalh_1@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear S Gupta ji, > > > > If you can give proper reasoning event wise,that would be better way > > to understand for all other members also who want to learn. > > > > > > Do not jump staright to the antra/worksheet without noticing the planet's > > status and their effects step by step.What was the native psychology > > and behaviour during the year 2000 onwards till his marriage and how the > > planets affect the circumstances which consequently lead this marriage > > to a separation,i think this will help you the assess the event antrawise.. > > > > > > I can understand that you are going through the lessons,so practise > > on more charts by the time you would learn to fix the timing also. > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 14/5/09, sgupta2269 <sgupta2269@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > sgupta2269 <sgupta2269@ ...> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Love Marriage And Separation-Another Chart From Satara Workshop > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Thursday, 14 May, 2009, 9:43 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this chart, 4th and 12th lords (Venus and Saturn) are related to 2nd and 10th lords (Jupiter and Mars) by aspects. This is one of the rules for relationships with opposite sex as mentioned in lessons. > > > > Saturn in 7th with only 1 point - unhappy marriage. Marriage occured in Mercury sub period, and Mercury has less than 12 points for the 7th house. It is one of the conditions for separation/divorce. > > > > My question is how do we find out his anti-social activities. What combinations are responsible for it. > > > > SG > > > > -- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > Here is another chart that was taken up by guruji in Satara Workshop > > > to explain the finer things of a love marriage leading to a separation. > > > > > > The male is 2 years younger to his wife and having an average education.. > > > He is running his own shuttering business in a town > > > He is involved in anti-social activites since many years. > > > > > > So here is the birth detail of the native. > > > > > > 22nd Feb 1978 > > > 8.00am > > > Lat 32 N 04 Longi 75 E 28 IST > > > > > > > > > Lagna is 29 Aq 18 > > > > > > All started in Feb2002 when they were involved in a relationship. > > > Marriage date is 4thApr 2004 and daughter on 29th Dec2004. > > > > > > He filed an divorce application on 16th apr2007. > > > Now they are living separately since Dec2008 > > > > > > I hope the members who were unable to attend the Workshop at Satara > > > due to their personal reasons can also solve the charts and clear their > > > doubts if any. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Dear Hari, and list members, From where you have found 3rd from any house is death of that house? On the contrary 3rd house is life of that house, or it is a Root karak for that house. Yes life may end by death. The only currency in which one can have death is " life " . Death can be in exchange of life only. So third house can not be death. (it is karak for 8th house and 8th also denotes death, along with so many other things ) Please do not misinterpret. krushna On 5/21/09, Hari <vaastro wrote: Dear list,I just had a thought and I wanted your opinion. 3rd from any house shows the 'death' of that house.If we look at separation/divorce which ,correct me if I'm wrong, is an end to marriage, then looking at 9H (3rd from 7H) should give us a justification . In this chart divorce was filed in Ju antra (LoE of 9H) and the couple lived separately in Sa antra (the strongest significator of 9H)what is your thought.Hari. , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: >> Dear Group,> > > Here is another chart that was taken up by guruji in Satara Workshop > to explain the finer things of a love marriage leading to a separation.> > The male is 2 years younger to his wife and having an average education. > He is running his own shuttering business in a town> He is involved in anti-social activites since many years. > > So here is the birth detail of the native.> > 22nd Feb 1978 > 8.00am> Lat 32 N 04 Longi 75 E 28 IST> > > Lagna is 29 Aq 18> > All started in Feb2002 when they were involved in a relationship.> Marriage date is 4thApr 2004 and daughter on 29th Dec2004. > > He filed an divorce application on 16th apr2007.> Now they are living separately since Dec2008> > I hope the members who were unable to attend the Workshop at Satara> due to their personal reasons can also solve the charts and clear their > doubts if any. > > > Regards> Anup > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Dear Krushna ji, Thank you for your explanation. I indeed misinterpreted the note,and what you mentioned obviously cleared all the doubts. thanks Hari. , krushana Jugal <krushana wrote: > > Dear Hari, and list members, > From where you have found 3rd from any house is death of that > house? On the contrary 3rd house is life of that house, or it is a Root > karak for that house. Yes life may end by death. The only currency in which > one can have death is " life " . Death can be in exchange of life only. So > third house can not be death. (it is karak for 8th house and 8th also > denotes death, along with so many other things ) > Please do not misinterpret. > krushna > > > > On 5/21/09, Hari <vaastro wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear list, > > > > I just had a thought and I wanted your opinion. 3rd from any house shows > > the 'death' of that house. > > If we look at separation/divorce which ,correct me if I'm wrong, is an end > > to marriage, then looking at 9H (3rd from 7H) should give us a justification > > . > > > > In this chart divorce was filed in Ju antra (LoE of 9H) and the couple > > lived separately in Sa antra (the strongest significator of 9H) > > > > what is your thought. > > > > Hari. > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > Here is another chart that was taken up by guruji in Satara Workshop > > > to explain the finer things of a love marriage leading to a separation. > > > > > > The male is 2 years younger to his wife and having an average education. > > > He is running his own shuttering business in a town > > > He is involved in anti-social activites since many years. > > > > > > So here is the birth detail of the native. > > > > > > 22nd Feb 1978 > > > 8.00am > > > Lat 32 N 04 Longi 75 E 28 IST > > > > > > > > > Lagna is 29 Aq 18 > > > > > > All started in Feb2002 when they were involved in a relationship. > > > Marriage date is 4thApr 2004 and daughter on 29th Dec2004. > > > > > > He filed an divorce application on 16th apr2007. > > > Now they are living separately since Dec2008 > > > > > > I hope the members who were unable to attend the Workshop at Satara > > > due to their personal reasons can also solve the charts and clear their > > > doubts if any. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter > > http://beta.cricket. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Dear Prabha ji, Jup is with 4 points,so no Jup delay. Venus is SD to Mer though Mer is has low points in 7th house. Sat is Loe,Mars as karakansha is in 6th house,means in blackhole. Sat is in 7th with 1 bindu,so indicate something. Such person can marry to his partner,elder to him. Please connect the events if possible. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 20/5/09, Prabha <prabha.acharya wrote: Prabha <prabha.acharya Love Marriage And Separation-Another Chart From Satara Workshop Date: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 12:26 PM Dear Anupji and List MembersHere is my analysis of the chart:-LoA: Ju; LoB: Su; LoC: Ju; LoD: Ve; LoE: Sa; RK: Ve; 6L: Mo1. Sa aspects LoA in D9, is in HoB, and aspects LoC - so there is Sa delay 2. Ju is LoA and aspects LoB - so there is Ju delay too.3. Sa delay gets over on Sept 2004. And at that time Ju delay doesnt get over. Ju delay gets over on Sept 2005 when Ju aspects 7th Lord.So I am unable to find why he got married on Apr 2004. There is all indication thatthere is a love marriage. Ju as karaka, and Ve as Root Karaka doesnt look spoiled.Except that Ve is with 6L Mo in D9Even if assuming he married in Me antra in Apr 2004, Me has low points in 7th house.Therefore the problem would have started in Su antra in Su MD - Su has more points in 7th houseThanksPrabha Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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