Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants,nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Anup Ji and group ,

Namaskar,

This female native born on 13 Jan 1952 might have married during Me antara of Ke main sometime in the year of 1978.

This chart has blessings as well and Ju is moderating the delay caused by Sa.It has one zero in 12th house by Sa.

The SAV points of lagna is 32 compared to 25 in 7th house.

The FK Su and NK Ve both are weak in WS for 7th house.

LoD is Ve who is weak and aspected by Sa and 6th lord Ju.Ve is also in 6th house in navamsa.

LoE is Me who is strong in WS occupy 6th house in Rasi.

The 7th house has got only 64 total points which is very weak.

I think native might have got marriage due to the blessings otherwise this chart seems to be a case of non-marital status.

Regarding progeny her 5th house has got only 21 total SAV points.

There is an exchange of Ma and Ve. Ma is 5th lord occupy 12th from its owning house and 12th lord Ve is in 5th house.

The 5th house is being aspected malefically by Sa and Ju both.

Karak for 5th is Me who is in 6th house and aspects its own house with malefic sight.

The NK Ju for 5th also aspect malefically 5th house and the planet Ve who is NK for 7th and 12th.

All the planets in her 5th house is weak, only Ma has 12 points.

If you see her 5th house then Ve is in 5th with 6 bindus thus obstructing the function of genital organs.Fertility might be weak.

She may not conceive.

Kindly let the group know what is the fact ? Thanks.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Anup. M <dalh_1 wrote:

Anup. M <dalh_1 Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Friday, 12 June, 2009, 9:20 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Dear Ramesh ji,

 

 

Ju can not moderate the Sa delay here.

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 12/6/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002Re: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Friday, 12 June, 2009, 5:45 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Anup Ji and group ,

Namaskar,

This female native born on 13 Jan 1952 might have married during Me antara of Ke main sometime in the year of 1978.

This chart has blessings as well and Ju is moderating the delay caused by Sa.It has one zero in 12th house by Sa.

The SAV points of lagna is 32 compared to 25 in 7th house.

The FK Su and NK Ve both are weak in WS for 7th house.

LoD is Ve who is weak and aspected by Sa and 6th lord Ju.Ve is also in 6th house in navamsa.

LoE is Me who is strong in WS occupy 6th house in Rasi.

The 7th house has got only 64 total points which is very weak.

I think native might have got marriage due to the blessings otherwise this chart seems to be a case of non-marital status.

Regarding progeny her 5th house has got only 21 total SAV points.

There is an exchange of Ma and Ve. Ma is 5th lord occupy 12th from its owning house and 12th lord Ve is in 5th house.

The 5th house is being aspected malefically by Sa and Ju both.

Karak for 5th is Me who is in 6th house and aspects its own house with malefic sight.

The NK Ju for 5th also aspect malefically 5th house and the planet Ve who is NK for 7th and 12th.

All the planets in her 5th house is weak, only Ma has 12 points.

If you see her 5th house then Ve is in 5th with 6 bindus thus obstructing the function of genital organs.Fertility might be weak.

She may not conceive.

Kindly let the group know what is the fact ? Thanks.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Anup. M <dalh_1 > wrote:

Anup. M <dalh_1 >[astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 9:20 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Dear Anup ji and list members,This chart has 1) sa delay,but Ju checks delay,2) blessing due to elders3) zero due to Sa in 12th4) lg/Mo/Su vs 7thLord OkI think marriage is not delayed and native must have married in Ju antra 3rd sector between aug68 and may69 (ju being strong in WS and also 4th from Me as LoE)For child problemlow points for all planets ( not greater than 12)FK Me gone in 6th houseRK (12 house) has only 19 points hence weaklord of RK Me in 6H6L Ju gone in house C5H aspected maleficaly by saso combination of factors comtributed to no child issue.thanksHari From: dalh_1Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:35 +0530 Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants,nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

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Dear Anup ji,Ju is in sa star, so it is connected to Sa. Can it not moderate delay then.Please advise if I am wrong here.Hari. From: dalh_1Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:01:40 +0530Re: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh ji,

 

 

Ju can not moderate the Sa delay here.

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 12/6/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co..in>Re: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Friday, 12 June, 2009, 5:45 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Anup Ji and group ,

Namaskar,

This female native born on 13 Jan 1952 might have married during Me antara of Ke main sometime in the year of 1978.

This chart has blessings as well and Ju is moderating the delay caused by Sa.It has one zero in 12th house by Sa.

The SAV points of lagna is 32 compared to 25 in 7th house.

The FK Su and NK Ve both are weak in WS for 7th house.

LoD is Ve who is weak and aspected by Sa and 6th lord Ju.Ve is also in 6th house in navamsa.

LoE is Me who is strong in WS occupy 6th house in Rasi.

The 7th house has got only 64 total points which is very weak.

I think native might have got marriage due to the blessings otherwise this chart seems to be a case of non-marital status.

Regarding progeny her 5th house has got only 21 total SAV points.

There is an exchange of Ma and Ve. Ma is 5th lord occupy 12th from its owning house and 12th lord Ve is in 5th house.

The 5th house is being aspected malefically by Sa and Ju both.

Karak for 5th is Me who is in 6th house and aspects its own house with malefic sight.

The NK Ju for 5th also aspect malefically 5th house and the planet Ve who is NK for 7th and 12th.

All the planets in her 5th house is weak, only Ma has 12 points.

If you see her 5th house then Ve is in 5th with 6 bindus thus obstructing the function of genital organs.Fertility might be weak.

She may not conceive.

Kindly let the group know what is the fact ? Thanks.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Anup. M <dalh_1 > wrote:

Anup. M <dalh_1 >[astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 9:20 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Dear list,May I add that the second lord Su is afflicted by mars and second house is afflicted by presence of Ke.affliction to 2H and 2L gives problems to have progeny.Hari. From: vaastroDate: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:40:23 -0400RE: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

Dear Anup ji and list members,This chart has 1) sa delay,but Ju checks delay,2) blessing due to elders3) zero due to Sa in 12th4) lg/Mo/Su vs 7thLord OkI think marriage is not delayed and native must have married in Ju antra 3rd sector between aug68 and may69 (ju being strong in WS and also 4th from Me as LoE)For child problemlow points for all planets ( not greater than 12)FK Me gone in 6th houseRK (12 house) has only 19 points hence weaklord of RK Me in 6H6L Ju gone in house C5H aspected maleficaly by saso combination of factors comtributed to no child issue.thanksHari From: dalh_1 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:35 +0530 Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants,nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

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Hello Hari Ji,

Namaste,

You mean to say that native married at the age of 16/17 years.

Your 2nd house point is correct.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Va Astro <vaastro wrote:

Va Astro <vaastroRE: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Friday, 12 June, 2009, 7:59 PM

 

 

Dear list,May I add that the second lord Su is afflicted by mars and second house is afflicted by presence of Ke.affliction to 2H and 2L gives problems to have progeny.Hari.

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comvaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) comFri, 12 Jun 2009 09:40:23 -0400RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

Dear Anup ji and list members,This chart has 1) sa delay,but Ju checks delay,2) blessing due to elders3) zero due to Sa in 12th4) lg/Mo/Su vs 7thLord OkI think marriage is not delayed and native must have married in Ju antra 3rd sector between aug68 and may69 (ju being strong in WS and also 4th from Me as LoE)For child problemlow points for all planets ( not greater than 12)FK Me gone in 6th houseRK (12 house) has only 19 points hence weaklord of RK Me in 6H6L Ju gone in house C5H aspected maleficaly by saso combination of factors comtributed to no child issue.thanksHari

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comdalh_1 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:35 +0530[astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Dear Anup Ji and Hari Ji,

Yes Sir, you are correct.I overlooked the Ju star.

Thanks for correcting me.

Regards.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Va Astro <vaastro wrote:

Va Astro <vaastroRE: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Friday, 12 June, 2009, 7:11 PM

 

 

Dear Anup ji,Ju is in sa star, so it is connected to Sa. Can it not moderate delay then.Please advise if I am wrong here.Hari.

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comdalh_1 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:01:40 +0530Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh ji,

 

 

Ju can not moderate the Sa delay here.

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 12/6/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. .in>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 5:45 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Anup Ji and group ,

Namaskar,

This female native born on 13 Jan 1952 might have married during Me antara of Ke main sometime in the year of 1978.

This chart has blessings as well and Ju is moderating the delay caused by Sa.It has one zero in 12th house by Sa.

The SAV points of lagna is 32 compared to 25 in 7th house.

The FK Su and NK Ve both are weak in WS for 7th house.

LoD is Ve who is weak and aspected by Sa and 6th lord Ju.Ve is also in 6th house in navamsa.

LoE is Me who is strong in WS occupy 6th house in Rasi.

The 7th house has got only 64 total points which is very weak.

I think native might have got marriage due to the blessings otherwise this chart seems to be a case of non-marital status.

Regarding progeny her 5th house has got only 21 total SAV points.

There is an exchange of Ma and Ve. Ma is 5th lord occupy 12th from its owning house and 12th lord Ve is in 5th house.

The 5th house is being aspected malefically by Sa and Ju both.

Karak for 5th is Me who is in 6th house and aspects its own house with malefic sight.

The NK Ju for 5th also aspect malefically 5th house and the planet Ve who is NK for 7th and 12th.

All the planets in her 5th house is weak, only Ma has 12 points.

If you see her 5th house then Ve is in 5th with 6 bindus thus obstructing the function of genital organs.Fertility might be weak.

She may not conceive.

Kindly let the group know what is the fact ? Thanks.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Anup. M <dalh_1 > wrote:

Anup. M <dalh_1 >[astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 9:20 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Dear Hari ji,

 

 

Please note Ju can not check the Sa delay when

 

* Jupiter in nakshatra of Saturn

* Jupiter in navamsa of Saturn

* Jupiter in sign of Saturn

* Jupiter in Libra

 

 

Hope its clear now.

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Va Astro <vaastro wrote:

Va Astro <vaastroRE: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Friday, 12 June, 2009, 7:11 PM

 

 

Dear Anup ji,Ju is in sa star, so it is connected to Sa. Can it not moderate delay then.Please advise if I am wrong here.Hari.

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comdalh_1 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:01:40 +0530Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh ji,

 

 

Ju can not moderate the Sa delay here.

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 12/6/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. .in>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 5:45 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Anup Ji and group ,

Namaskar,

This female native born on 13 Jan 1952 might have married during Me antara of Ke main sometime in the year of 1978.

This chart has blessings as well and Ju is moderating the delay caused by Sa.It has one zero in 12th house by Sa.

The SAV points of lagna is 32 compared to 25 in 7th house.

The FK Su and NK Ve both are weak in WS for 7th house.

LoD is Ve who is weak and aspected by Sa and 6th lord Ju.Ve is also in 6th house in navamsa.

LoE is Me who is strong in WS occupy 6th house in Rasi.

The 7th house has got only 64 total points which is very weak.

I think native might have got marriage due to the blessings otherwise this chart seems to be a case of non-marital status.

Regarding progeny her 5th house has got only 21 total SAV points.

There is an exchange of Ma and Ve. Ma is 5th lord occupy 12th from its owning house and 12th lord Ve is in 5th house.

The 5th house is being aspected malefically by Sa and Ju both.

Karak for 5th is Me who is in 6th house and aspects its own house with malefic sight.

The NK Ju for 5th also aspect malefically 5th house and the planet Ve who is NK for 7th and 12th.

All the planets in her 5th house is weak, only Ma has 12 points.

If you see her 5th house then Ve is in 5th with 6 bindus thus obstructing the function of genital organs.Fertility might be weak.

She may not conceive.

Kindly let the group know what is the fact ? Thanks.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Anup. M <dalh_1 > wrote:

Anup. M <dalh_1 >[astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 9:20 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Dear Anup Ji,

Yes SIR, You are correct. I overlooked the constellation of Ju. It means kindly correct my analysis also.

The native might have married sometime in Jan 1979.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Anup. M <dalh_1 wrote:

Anup. M <dalh_1Re: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Friday, 12 June, 2009, 7:01 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh ji,

 

 

Ju can not moderate the Sa delay here.

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 12/6/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. .in>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 5:45 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Anup Ji and group ,

Namaskar,

This female native born on 13 Jan 1952 might have married during Me antara of Ke main sometime in the year of 1978.

This chart has blessings as well and Ju is moderating the delay caused by Sa.It has one zero in 12th house by Sa.

The SAV points of lagna is 32 compared to 25 in 7th house.

The FK Su and NK Ve both are weak in WS for 7th house.

LoD is Ve who is weak and aspected by Sa and 6th lord Ju.Ve is also in 6th house in navamsa.

LoE is Me who is strong in WS occupy 6th house in Rasi.

The 7th house has got only 64 total points which is very weak.

I think native might have got marriage due to the blessings otherwise this chart seems to be a case of non-marital status.

Regarding progeny her 5th house has got only 21 total SAV points.

There is an exchange of Ma and Ve. Ma is 5th lord occupy 12th from its owning house and 12th lord Ve is in 5th house.

The 5th house is being aspected malefically by Sa and Ju both.

Karak for 5th is Me who is in 6th house and aspects its own house with malefic sight.

The NK Ju for 5th also aspect malefically 5th house and the planet Ve who is NK for 7th and 12th.

All the planets in her 5th house is weak, only Ma has 12 points.

If you see her 5th house then Ve is in 5th with 6 bindus thus obstructing the function of genital organs.Fertility might be weak.

She may not conceive.

Kindly let the group know what is the fact ? Thanks.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Anup. M <dalh_1 > wrote:

Anup. M <dalh_1 >[astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 9:20 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Dear Ramesh ji and group,

 

 

An inspiring mail as usual.

 

 

I am still on this chart and trying to figure out the possible antra.

I have no idea of her marriage date,sure we all should continue

this discussion for learning sake.

 

 

Seems a delayed marriage as per my understanding..

Progeny problems are seen in this chart also.

 

 

I will be writing down my understanding soon.

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

--- On Fri, 12/6/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002Re: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Friday, 12 June, 2009, 8:51 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Anup Ji,

Yes SIR, You are correct. I overlooked the constellation of Ju. It means kindly correct my analysis also.

The native might have married sometime in Jan 1979.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Anup. M <dalh_1 > wrote:

Anup. M <dalh_1 >Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 7:01 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh ji,

 

 

Ju can not moderate the Sa delay here.

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 12/6/09, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote:

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. .in>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 5:45 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Anup Ji and group ,

Namaskar,

This female native born on 13 Jan 1952 might have married during Me antara of Ke main sometime in the year of 1978.

This chart has blessings as well and Ju is moderating the delay caused by Sa.It has one zero in 12th house by Sa.

The SAV points of lagna is 32 compared to 25 in 7th house.

The FK Su and NK Ve both are weak in WS for 7th house.

LoD is Ve who is weak and aspected by Sa and 6th lord Ju.Ve is also in 6th house in navamsa.

LoE is Me who is strong in WS occupy 6th house in Rasi.

The 7th house has got only 64 total points which is very weak.

I think native might have got marriage due to the blessings otherwise this chart seems to be a case of non-marital status.

Regarding progeny her 5th house has got only 21 total SAV points.

There is an exchange of Ma and Ve. Ma is 5th lord occupy 12th from its owning house and 12th lord Ve is in 5th house.

The 5th house is being aspected malefically by Sa and Ju both.

Karak for 5th is Me who is in 6th house and aspects its own house with malefic sight.

The NK Ju for 5th also aspect malefically 5th house and the planet Ve who is NK for 7th and 12th.

All the planets in her 5th house is weak, only Ma has 12 points.

If you see her 5th house then Ve is in 5th with 6 bindus thus obstructing the function of genital organs.Fertility might be weak.

She may not conceive.

Kindly let the group know what is the fact ? Thanks.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Anup. M <dalh_1 > wrote:

Anup. M <dalh_1 >[astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 9:20 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Dear Ramesh ji,I am not seeing full saturn delay in this chart, since there is blessing I guess there should not be any delay or moderate delay. If we think of the situation of women born in that time, I would not be surprised that girls marry early and as such a mariage of 16-17 would be just normal. My own mother born in 1952 married at age 17, my aunt same age range married at 15 .. so I would not be too much surprised if a planet has sufficient strength to allow mariage in its period even if age is relatively early.In this chart, I did not see poor quality of married life (lord of lg/Mo/Su) with 7L are all in 3:11, so the partner is probably very compatible and suitable and mariage has just happened early.Hari. From: aarceemastro2002Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:31:06 +0530RE: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

Hello Hari Ji,

Namaste,

You mean to say that native married at the age of 16/17 years.

Your 2nd house point is correct.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Friday, 12 June, 2009, 7:59 PM

 

 

Dear list,May I add that the second lord Su is afflicted by mars and second house is afflicted by presence of Ke.affliction to 2H and 2L gives problems to have progeny.Hari.

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comvaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) comFri, 12 Jun 2009 09:40:23 -0400RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

Dear Anup ji and list members,This chart has 1) sa delay,but Ju checks delay,2) blessing due to elders3) zero due to Sa in 12th4) lg/Mo/Su vs 7thLord OkI think marriage is not delayed and native must have married in Ju antra 3rd sector between aug68 and may69 (ju being strong in WS and also 4th from Me as LoE)For child problemlow points for all planets ( not greater than 12)FK Me gone in 6th houseRK (12 house) has only 19 points hence weaklord of RK Me in 6H6L Ju gone in house C5H aspected maleficaly by saso combination of factors comtributed to no child issue.thanksHari

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comdalh_1 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:35 +0530[astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Dear Anupjee, Rameshjee, Harijee and all members,

 

                    This chart was given in seminar to discuss some advance points. But time did not permit to discuss advance portion. 

                     In this chart full delay due to Saturn is indicated, Jupiter can not moderate the delay. But this chart is having very strong blessing. Yes one more thing here as lagna lord is moon and 9th lord is Jupiter are in nav pancham yog. This is also known as Gaj kesari yog. This makes blessing more strong. As ninth lord is Root karak so also blessing of father can reduce the delay. This girl married on 16th may 1971, after completion of her 19 years. 

                     Yes before Going to timing event we must study the chart. We must study from all aspects. in this chart for fifth house mostly all planets are week. Hence this girl can not have more education. or we can say she may not have completed her graduation. In general case education is a main reason for delay in marriage. and seeing the points in WS for fifth all are poor. now second thing is Blessing, In India in the case of girls, father makes hurry to get his daughter married. in this case she is having strong blessing so early marriage. 

                      Now as we see fifth house is showing less points, means there is problem in child birth. now we will see the karak for children. That is 12th house and lord of 12th house is situated in sixth house. this spoils the karak for 5th house. Then we should see the Karakansha ( karakansha is d LORD OF THE PLANET ) here we will see navansha chart. So navansha lord of a planet is known as karkansha lord. in this chart navansha lord of mercury (12th lord ) is again mercury, and in rashi chart mercury is situated in sixth house. This indicates problem in progeny. Again we must see the Root karak. Root karak is karak of karak . For 5th house Root karak house is 7th. and lord is Saturn. Sun is situated in that house. Sun is enemy of Saturn so spoils that house. ( here i would like to mention that Sun in Saturn's house is spoiled but Saturn in sun's house do not get spoiled.  Now we will see the natural karak for 5th house is Jupiter and karkansha lord  is mars . Mars is situated in Libra and Libra sign spoils Jupiter.

                     As all these things indicates problem in progeny, hence more possibility to get married in the antra of less points for 7th house. now this girl is married early so after attaining her 18 years age the first planet is Saturn having less points for 7th house. So here we can say she must have married in Saturn antra. now here Saturn is delay causing planet but delay is nullified by blessing so marriage in 2nd sector of Saturn. this means she would have married after may 1970 to march 1971. we can find out few dates when she can have marriage from PDF. again in India muhurt (auspicious day ) is followed. So marriage in this case will be on the day when planets are not more auspicious. on 16th may Sun's transit was in Venus sign Taurus and in sun's nakshtra . Sun too is having less power for 7th house and Venus shows 18 points but karakansha lord of Venus is again in sixth house. So Venus too is spoiled.

 

                     This chart was included in seminar for further study of karakansha effect. Soon I will be giving lesson on karakansha. As Anupjee have given this chart on list so I have interfere in this.

  Thanks

krushna                   

 

                       

 

 

 

On 6/12/09, Va Astro <vaastro wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh ji,I am not seeing full saturn delay in this chart, since there is blessing I guess there should not be any delay or moderate delay. If we think of the situation of women born in that time, I would not be surprised that girls marry early and as such a mariage of 16-17 would be just normal. My own mother  born in 1952  married at age 17, my aunt same age range married at 15 .. so I would not be too much surprised if a planet has sufficient strength to allow mariage in its period even if age is relatively early.

In this chart, I did not see poor quality of married life (lord of lg/Mo/Su) with 7L  are all in 3:11, so the partner is probably very compatible and suitable and mariage has just happened early.

Hari.

 

From: aarceemastro2002

Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:31:06 +0530 RE: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Hari Ji,

Namaste,

You mean to say that native married at the age of 16/17 years.

Your 2nd house point is correct.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Va Astro <vaastro wrote:

 

Va Astro <vaastro

RE: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

Friday, 12 June, 2009, 7:59 PM

 

 

Dear list,May  I add that the second lord Su is afflicted by mars  and second house is afflicted by presence of Ke.affliction to 2H and 2L gives problems to have progeny.Hari.

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comvaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) comFri, 12 Jun 2009 09:40:23 -0400

RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

Dear Anup ji and list members,This chart has 1) sa delay,but Ju checks delay,2) blessing due to elders3) zero due to Sa in 12th4) lg/Mo/Su vs 7thLord  OkI think marriage is not delayed and native must have married in Ju antra 3rd sector between aug68 and may69 (ju being strong in WS and also 4th from Me as LoE)

For child problemlow points for all planets ( not greater than 12)FK Me gone in 6th houseRK  (12 house)  has only 19 points hence weaklord of RK Me in 6H6L Ju gone in house C5H aspected  maleficaly by sa

so combination of factors comtributed to no child issue.thanksHari

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comdalh_1 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:35 +0530[astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03  72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Respected Guru ji,

 

 

 

Thank you very much for this wonderful explanation.

Its like an another lesson we have been given.

 

Pranam

 

Anup

 

 

--- On Sat, 13/6/09, krushana Jugal <krushana wrote:

krushana Jugal <krushanaRe: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Saturday, 13 June, 2009, 12:03 AM

 

 

 

Dear Anupjee, Rameshjee, Harijee and all members,

 

This chart was given in seminar to discuss some advance points. But time did not permit to discuss advance portion.

In this chart full delay due to Saturn is indicated, Jupiter can not moderate the delay. But this chart is having very strong blessing. Yes one more thing here as lagna lord is moon and 9th lord is Jupiter are in nav pancham yog. This is also known as Gaj kesari yog. This makes blessing more strong. As ninth lord is Root karak so also blessing of father can reduce the delay. This girl married on 16th may 1971, after completion of her 19 years.

Yes before Going to timing event we must study the chart. We must study from all aspects. in this chart for fifth house mostly all planets are week. Hence this girl can not have more education. or we can say she may not have completed her graduation.. In general case education is a main reason for delay in marriage. and seeing the points in WS for fifth all are poor. now second thing is Blessing, In India in the case of girls, father makes hurry to get his daughter married. in this case she is having strong blessing so early marriage.

Now as we see fifth house is showing less points, means there is problem in child birth. now we will see the karak for children. That is 12th house and lord of 12th house is situated in sixth house. this spoils the karak for 5th house. Then we should see the Karakansha ( karakansha is d LORD OF THE PLANET ) here we will see navansha chart. So navansha lord of a planet is known as karkansha lord. in this chart navansha lord of mercury (12th lord ) is again mercury, and in rashi chart mercury is situated in sixth house. This indicates problem in progeny. Again we must see the Root karak. Root karak is karak of karak . For 5th house Root karak house is 7th. and lord is Saturn. Sun is situated in that house. Sun is enemy of Saturn so spoils that house. ( here i would like to mention that Sun in Saturn's house is spoiled but

Saturn in sun's house do not get spoiled. Now we will see the natural karak for 5th house is Jupiter and karkansha lord is mars . Mars is situated in Libra and Libra sign spoils Jupiter.

As all these things indicates problem in progeny, hence more possibility to get married in the antra of less points for 7th house. now this girl is married early so after attaining her 18 years age the first planet is Saturn having less points for 7th house. So here we can say she must have married in Saturn antra. now here Saturn is delay causing planet but delay is nullified by blessing so marriage in 2nd sector of Saturn. this means she would have married after may 1970 to march 1971. we can find out few dates when she can have marriage from PDF. again in India muhurt (auspicious day ) is followed. So marriage in this case will be on the day when planets are not more auspicious.. on 16th may Sun's transit was in Venus sign Taurus and in sun's nakshtra .. Sun too is having less power for 7th house and Venus shows 18

points but karakansha lord of Venus is again in sixth house. So Venus too is spoiled.

 

This chart was included in seminar for further study of karakansha effect. Soon I will be giving lesson on karakansha. As Anupjee have given this chart on list so I have interfere in this.

Thanks

krushna

 

 

 

 

On 6/12/09, Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh ji,I am not seeing full saturn delay in this chart, since there is blessing I guess there should not be any delay or moderate delay. If we think of the situation of women born in that time, I would not be surprised that girls marry early and as such a mariage of 16-17 would be just normal. My own mother born in 1952 married at age 17, my aunt same age range married at 15 .. so I would not be too much surprised if a planet has sufficient strength to allow mariage in its period even if age is relatively early.In this chart, I did not see poor quality of married life (lord of lg/Mo/Su) with 7L are all in 3:11, so the partner is probably very compatible and suitable and mariage has just happened early.Hari.

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comaarceemastro2002@ .co. inFri, 12 Jun 2009 20:31:06 +0530 RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Hari Ji,

Namaste,

You mean to say that native married at the age of 16/17 years.

Your 2nd house point is correct.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 7:59 PM

 

 

Dear list,May I add that the second lord Su is afflicted by mars and second house is afflicted by presence of Ke.affliction to 2H and 2L gives problems to have progeny.Hari.

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comvaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) comFri, 12 Jun 2009 09:40:23 -0400RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

Dear Anup ji and list members,This chart has 1) sa delay,but Ju checks delay,2) blessing due to elders3) zero due to Sa in 12th4) lg/Mo/Su vs 7thLord OkI think marriage is not delayed and native must have married in Ju antra 3rd sector between aug68 and may69 (ju being strong in WS and also 4th from Me as LoE)For child problemlow points for all planets ( not greater than 12)FK Me gone in 6th houseRK (12 house) has only 19 points hence weaklord of RK Me in 6H6L Ju gone in house C5H aspected maleficaly by saso combination of factors comtributed to no child issue..thanksHari

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comdalh_1 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:35 +0530[astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Respected GURUJI,

 

thank you for your superb yet simple and crystal clear explanation.

 

Pranams

 

A.Padmaseni.--- On Fri, 6/12/09, krushana Jugal <krushana wrote:

krushana Jugal <krushanaRe: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 2:33 PM

 

 

 

Dear Anupjee, Rameshjee, Harijee and all members,

 

This chart was given in seminar to discuss some advance points. But time did not permit to discuss advance portion.

In this chart full delay due to Saturn is indicated, Jupiter can not moderate the delay. But this chart is having very strong blessing. Yes one more thing here as lagna lord is moon and 9th lord is Jupiter are in nav pancham yog. This is also known as Gaj kesari yog. This makes blessing more strong. As ninth lord is Root karak so also blessing of father can reduce the delay. This girl married on 16th may 1971, after completion of her 19 years.

Yes before Going to timing event we must study the chart. We must study from all aspects. in this chart for fifth house mostly all planets are week. Hence this girl can not have more education. or we can say she may not have completed her graduation. In general case education is a main reason for delay in marriage. and seeing the points in WS for fifth all are poor. now second thing is Blessing, In India in the case of girls, father makes hurry to get his daughter married. in this case she is having strong blessing so early marriage.

Now as we see fifth house is showing less points, means there is problem in child birth. now we will see the karak for children. That is 12th house and lord of 12th house is situated in sixth house. this spoils the karak for 5th house. Then we should see the Karakansha ( karakansha is d LORD OF THE PLANET ) here we will see navansha chart. So navansha lord of a planet is known as karkansha lord. in this chart navansha lord of mercury (12th lord ) is again mercury, and in rashi chart mercury is situated in sixth house. This indicates problem in progeny. Again we must see the Root karak. Root karak is karak of karak . For 5th house Root karak house is 7th. and lord is Saturn. Sun is situated in that house. Sun is enemy of Saturn so spoils that house. ( here i would like to mention that Sun in Saturn's house is spoiled but

Saturn in sun's house do not get spoiled. Now we will see the natural karak for 5th house is Jupiter and karkansha lord is mars . Mars is situated in Libra and Libra sign spoils Jupiter.

As all these things indicates problem in progeny, hence more possibility to get married in the antra of less points for 7th house. now this girl is married early so after attaining her 18 years age the first planet is Saturn having less points for 7th house. So here we can say she must have married in Saturn antra. now here Saturn is delay causing planet but delay is nullified by blessing so marriage in 2nd sector of Saturn. this means she would have married after may 1970 to march 1971. we can find out few dates when she can have marriage from PDF. again in India muhurt (auspicious day ) is followed. So marriage in this case will be on the day when planets are not more auspicious. on 16th may Sun's transit was in Venus sign Taurus and in sun's nakshtra . Sun too is having less power for 7th house and Venus shows 18

points but karakansha lord of Venus is again in sixth house. So Venus too is spoiled.

 

This chart was included in seminar for further study of karakansha effect. Soon I will be giving lesson on karakansha. As Anupjee have given this chart on list so I have interfere in this.

Thanks

krushna

 

 

 

 

On 6/12/09, Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh ji,I am not seeing full saturn delay in this chart, since there is blessing I guess there should not be any delay or moderate delay. If we think of the situation of women born in that time, I would not be surprised that girls marry early and as such a mariage of 16-17 would be just normal. My own mother born in 1952 married at age 17, my aunt same age range married at 15 .. so I would not be too much surprised if a planet has sufficient strength to allow mariage in its period even if age is relatively early.In this chart, I did not see poor quality of married life (lord of lg/Mo/Su) with 7L are all in 3:11, so the partner is probably very compatible and suitable and mariage has just happened early.Hari.

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comaarceemastro2002@ .co. inFri, 12 Jun 2009 20:31:06 +0530 RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Hari Ji,

Namaste,

You mean to say that native married at the age of 16/17 years.

Your 2nd house point is correct.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 7:59 PM

 

 

Dear list,May I add that the second lord Su is afflicted by mars and second house is afflicted by presence of Ke.affliction to 2H and 2L gives problems to have progeny.Hari.

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comvaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) comFri, 12 Jun 2009 09:40:23 -0400RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

Dear Anup ji and list members,This chart has 1) sa delay,but Ju checks delay,2) blessing due to elders3) zero due to Sa in 12th4) lg/Mo/Su vs 7thLord OkI think marriage is not delayed and native must have married in Ju antra 3rd sector between aug68 and may69 (ju being strong in WS and also 4th from Me as LoE)For child problemlow points for all planets ( not greater than 12)FK Me gone in 6th houseRK (12 house) has only 19 points hence weaklord of RK Me in 6H6L Ju gone in house C5H aspected maleficaly by saso combination of factors comtributed to no child issue.thanksHari

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comdalh_1 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:35 +0530[astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Respected Guru Ji,

Pranaam,

Thanks for giving the nice explanation and we want to learn a lot from you.

We always miss your absence.. Whenever you come to the forum I specially feel very happy.

Regards.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Sat, 13/6/09, krushana Jugal <krushana wrote:

krushana Jugal <krushanaRe: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Saturday, 13 June, 2009, 12:03 AM

 

 

 

Dear Anupjee, Rameshjee, Harijee and all members,

 

This chart was given in seminar to discuss some advance points. But time did not permit to discuss advance portion.

In this chart full delay due to Saturn is indicated, Jupiter can not moderate the delay. But this chart is having very strong blessing. Yes one more thing here as lagna lord is moon and 9th lord is Jupiter are in nav pancham yog. This is also known as Gaj kesari yog. This makes blessing more strong. As ninth lord is Root karak so also blessing of father can reduce the delay. This girl married on 16th may 1971, after completion of her 19 years.

Yes before Going to timing event we must study the chart. We must study from all aspects. in this chart for fifth house mostly all planets are week. Hence this girl can not have more education. or we can say she may not have completed her graduation. In general case education is a main reason for delay in marriage. and seeing the points in WS for fifth all are poor. now second thing is Blessing, In India in the case of girls, father makes hurry to get his daughter married. in this case she is having strong blessing so early marriage.

Now as we see fifth house is showing less points, means there is problem in child birth. now we will see the karak for children. That is 12th house and lord of 12th house is situated in sixth house. this spoils the karak for 5th house. Then we should see the Karakansha ( karakansha is d LORD OF THE PLANET ) here we will see navansha chart. So navansha lord of a planet is known as karkansha lord. in this chart navansha lord of mercury (12th lord ) is again mercury, and in rashi chart mercury is situated in sixth house. This indicates problem in progeny. Again we must see the Root karak. Root karak is karak of karak . For 5th house Root karak house is 7th. and lord is Saturn. Sun is situated in that house. Sun is enemy of Saturn so spoils that house. ( here i would like to mention that Sun in Saturn's house is spoiled but

Saturn in sun's house do not get spoiled. Now we will see the natural karak for 5th house is Jupiter and karkansha lord is mars . Mars is situated in Libra and Libra sign spoils Jupiter.

As all these things indicates problem in progeny, hence more possibility to get married in the antra of less points for 7th house. now this girl is married early so after attaining her 18 years age the first planet is Saturn having less points for 7th house. So here we can say she must have married in Saturn antra. now here Saturn is delay causing planet but delay is nullified by blessing so marriage in 2nd sector of Saturn. this means she would have married after may 1970 to march 1971. we can find out few dates when she can have marriage from PDF. again in India muhurt (auspicious day ) is followed. So marriage in this case will be on the day when planets are not more auspicious. on 16th may Sun's transit was in Venus sign Taurus and in sun's nakshtra . Sun too is having less power for 7th house and Venus shows 18

points but karakansha lord of Venus is again in sixth house. So Venus too is spoiled.

 

This chart was included in seminar for further study of karakansha effect. Soon I will be giving lesson on karakansha. As Anupjee have given this chart on list so I have interfere in this.

Thanks

krushna

 

 

 

 

On 6/12/09, Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh ji,I am not seeing full saturn delay in this chart, since there is blessing I guess there should not be any delay or moderate delay. If we think of the situation of women born in that time, I would not be surprised that girls marry early and as such a mariage of 16-17 would be just normal. My own mother born in 1952 married at age 17, my aunt same age range married at 15 .. so I would not be too much surprised if a planet has sufficient strength to allow mariage in its period even if age is relatively early.In this chart, I did not see poor quality of married life (lord of lg/Mo/Su) with 7L are all in 3:11, so the partner is probably very compatible and suitable and mariage has just happened early.Hari.

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comaarceemastro2002@ .co. inFri, 12 Jun 2009 20:31:06 +0530 RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Hari Ji,

Namaste,

You mean to say that native married at the age of 16/17 years.

Your 2nd house point is correct.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 7:59 PM

 

 

Dear list,May I add that the second lord Su is afflicted by mars and second house is afflicted by presence of Ke.affliction to 2H and 2L gives problems to have progeny.Hari.

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comvaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) comFri, 12 Jun 2009 09:40:23 -0400RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

Dear Anup ji and list members,This chart has 1) sa delay,but Ju checks delay,2) blessing due to elders3) zero due to Sa in 12th4) lg/Mo/Su vs 7thLord OkI think marriage is not delayed and native must have married in Ju antra 3rd sector between aug68 and may69 (ju being strong in WS and also 4th from Me as LoE)For child problemlow points for all planets ( not greater than 12)FK Me gone in 6th houseRK (12 house) has only 19 points hence weaklord of RK Me in 6H6L Ju gone in house C5H aspected maleficaly by saso combination of factors comtributed to no child issue.thanksHari

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comdalh_1 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:35 +0530[astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Respected Guru Ji,

Pranaam,

As you said the female native married on 16 May 1971 in the antara of Sa.and its 3rd sector.

After checking and reading the chart, I found the following observations.

1.There is full Sa delay.

2.There is very powerful blessings present in the chart because lagnalord Mo is in lagna with 6 strong bindus and 9th lord Ju is also in 9th house with strong 6 bindus.Therefore blessings of father is strongly present.Thereby nullifying the delay.

3.There is one 0 present in SAV chart given by Sa in 12th house.

4. Su to Ve distance is satisfactory (39 deg 24 min)

5.Ma is in Ve sign and Ve is in Ma sign.

6 The native is manglik.

7.The relationship from lagna/Su/Mo and their 7th lords is 3:10.thus accumulating total 60 points.Thereby giving harmony in the marital relationship..

 

The marriage happened in Sa antara in low and weak SAV point planet

 

KAS rule states that marriage accomplishing in low power planet or by 6th lord antara when there is lack of marital bliss.

 

Secondly when the next antara of powerful planet begins then there is chances of break in the marital knot.

 

Next antara of powerful planet of Ju commences on Jan/76. Since the planet Ju is RK and placed in 3rd from 7th might have given disharmony or break of their relationship.

But nothing sort of this matter was reported.

 

Second point is that the marriage happened in the antara of delay causing planet should have happened in its 1st sector.

The chart has one zero by Sa therefore it should have been in 2nd sector.

But it happened in 3rd sector of delay causing Sa planet.

 

Can you please tell us the reason for approaching to the correct timing ?

 

Even when blessings are present in the chart then also proper antara of LoD or LoE or the highest sav points of planet begins from 21 Jan 1976, the antara of Ju and Ju is SD to Me(LoE).

Regards.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Sat, 13/6/09, krushana Jugal <krushana wrote:

krushana Jugal <krushanaRe: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Saturday, 13 June, 2009, 12:03 AM

 

 

 

Dear Anupjee, Rameshjee, Harijee and all members,

 

This chart was given in seminar to discuss some advance points. But time did not permit to discuss advance portion.

In this chart full delay due to Saturn is indicated, Jupiter can not moderate the delay. But this chart is having very strong blessing. Yes one more thing here as lagna lord is moon and 9th lord is Jupiter are in nav pancham yog. This is also known as Gaj kesari yog. This makes blessing more strong. As ninth lord is Root karak so also blessing of father can reduce the delay. This girl married on 16th may 1971, after completion of her 19 years.

Yes before Going to timing event we must study the chart. We must study from all aspects. in this chart for fifth house mostly all planets are week. Hence this girl can not have more education. or we can say she may not have completed her graduation. In general case education is a main reason for delay in marriage. and seeing the points in WS for fifth all are poor. now second thing is Blessing, In India in the case of girls, father makes hurry to get his daughter married. in this case she is having strong blessing so early marriage.

Now as we see fifth house is showing less points, means there is problem in child birth. now we will see the karak for children. That is 12th house and lord of 12th house is situated in sixth house. this spoils the karak for 5th house. Then we should see the Karakansha ( karakansha is d LORD OF THE PLANET ) here we will see navansha chart. So navansha lord of a planet is known as karkansha lord. in this chart navansha lord of mercury (12th lord ) is again mercury, and in rashi chart mercury is situated in sixth house. This indicates problem in progeny. Again we must see the Root karak. Root karak is karak of karak . For 5th house Root karak house is 7th. and lord is Saturn. Sun is situated in that house. Sun is enemy of Saturn so spoils that house. ( here i would like to mention that Sun in Saturn's house is spoiled but

Saturn in sun's house do not get spoiled. Now we will see the natural karak for 5th house is Jupiter and karkansha lord is mars . Mars is situated in Libra and Libra sign spoils Jupiter.

As all these things indicates problem in progeny, hence more possibility to get married in the antra of less points for 7th house. now this girl is married early so after attaining her 18 years age the first planet is Saturn having less points for 7th house. So here we can say she must have married in Saturn antra. now here Saturn is delay causing planet but delay is nullified by blessing so marriage in 2nd sector of Saturn. this means she would have married after may 1970 to march 1971. we can find out few dates when she can have marriage from PDF. again in India muhurt (auspicious day ) is followed. So marriage in this case will be on the day when planets are not more auspicious. on 16th may Sun's transit was in Venus sign Taurus and in sun's nakshtra . Sun too is having less power for 7th house and Venus shows 18

points but karakansha lord of Venus is again in sixth house. So Venus too is spoiled.

 

This chart was included in seminar for further study of karakansha effect. Soon I will be giving lesson on karakansha. As Anupjee have given this chart on list so I have interfere in this.

Thanks

krushna

 

 

 

 

On 6/12/09, Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh ji,I am not seeing full saturn delay in this chart, since there is blessing I guess there should not be any delay or moderate delay. If we think of the situation of women born in that time, I would not be surprised that girls marry early and as such a mariage of 16-17 would be just normal. My own mother born in 1952 married at age 17, my aunt same age range married at 15 .. so I would not be too much surprised if a planet has sufficient strength to allow mariage in its period even if age is relatively early.In this chart, I did not see poor quality of married life (lord of lg/Mo/Su) with 7L are all in 3:11, so the partner is probably very compatible and suitable and mariage has just happened early.Hari.

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comaarceemastro2002@ .co. inFri, 12 Jun 2009 20:31:06 +0530 RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Hari Ji,

Namaste,

You mean to say that native married at the age of 16/17 years.

Your 2nd house point is correct.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Fri, 12/6/09, Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshopastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 12 June, 2009, 7:59 PM

 

 

Dear list,May I add that the second lord Su is afflicted by mars and second house is afflicted by presence of Ke.affliction to 2H and 2L gives problems to have progeny.Hari.

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comvaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) comFri, 12 Jun 2009 09:40:23 -0400RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

Dear Anup ji and list members,This chart has 1) sa delay,but Ju checks delay,2) blessing due to elders3) zero due to Sa in 12th4) lg/Mo/Su vs 7thLord OkI think marriage is not delayed and native must have married in Ju antra 3rd sector between aug68 and may69 (ju being strong in WS and also 4th from Me as LoE)For child problemlow points for all planets ( not greater than 12)FK Me gone in 6th houseRK (12 house) has only 19 points hence weaklord of RK Me in 6H6L Ju gone in house C5H aspected maleficaly by saso combination of factors comtributed to no child issue.thanksHari

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comdalh_1 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:35 +0530[astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

 

 

 

From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

 

 

 

All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

 

 

 

I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

authentically.

 

 

13 jan 1952

18.38pm

19 N 03 72 E 52

 

 

 

Lagna is 4 Cn 59

 

This lady has no issue after marriage.

When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

related to progeny?

 

 

I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

 

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

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Dear Rameshjee,

I answer in short. When strong blessing is present all adverse effect

are nullified. no break in marriage. As delay due to Sa is not activated due to

blessing so delay in the antra only. this also includes zero.

Thanks

krushna

 

 

 

 

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Respected Guru Ji,

> Pranaam,

> As you said the female native  married on 16 May 1971 in the antara of Sa.and

its 3rd sector.

> After checking and reading the chart, I found the following observations.

> 1.There is full Sa delay.

> 2.There is very powerful blessings present in the chart because lagnalord Mo

is in lagna with 6 strong bindus and 9th lord Ju is also in 9th house with

strong 6 bindus.Therefore blessings of father is strongly present.Thereby

nullifying the delay.

> 3.There is one 0 present in SAV chart given by Sa in 12th house.

> 4. Su to Ve distance is satisfactory (39 deg 24 min)

> 5.Ma is in Ve sign and Ve is in Ma sign.

> 6 The native is manglik.

> 7.The relationship from lagna/Su/Mo and their 7th lords is 3:10.thus

accumulating total 60 points.Thereby giving harmony in the marital

relationship..

>  

> The marriage happened in Sa antara in low and weak SAV point planet

>  

> KAS rule states that marriage accomplishing in low power planet or by 6th lord

antara when there is lack of marital bliss.

>  

> Secondly when the next antara of powerful planet begins then there is chances

of break in the marital knot.

>  

> Next antara of powerful planet of Ju commences on Jan/76. Since the planet Ju

is RK and placed in 3rd from 7th might have given disharmony or break of their

relationship.

> But nothing sort of this matter was reported.

>  

> Second point is that the marriage happened in the antara of delay causing

planet should have happened in its 1st sector.

> The chart has one zero by Sa therefore it should have been in 2nd sector.

> But it happened in 3rd sector of delay causing Sa planet.

>  

> Can you please tell us the reason for approaching to the correct timing ?

>  

> Even when blessings are present in the chart then also proper antara of LoD or

LoE or the highest sav points of planet begins from 21 Jan 1976, the antara of

Ju and Ju is SD to Me(LoE).

> Regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

> rcmastro

>

> --- On Sat, 13/6/09, krushana Jugal <krushana wrote:

>

>

> krushana Jugal <krushana

> Re: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara

Workshop

>

> Saturday, 13 June, 2009, 12:03 AM

>

>

>

Dear Anupjee, Rameshjee, Harijee and all members,

>  

>                     This chart was given in seminar to discuss some advance

points. But time did not permit to discuss advance portion. 

>                      In this chart full delay due to Saturn is indicated,

Jupiter can not moderate the delay. But this chart is having very strong

blessing. Yes one more thing here as lagna lord is moon and 9th lord is Jupiter

are in nav pancham yog. This is also known as Gaj kesari yog. This makes

blessing more strong. As ninth lord is Root karak so also blessing of father can

reduce the delay. This girl married on 16th may 1971, after completion of her 19

years. 

>                      Yes before Going to timing event we must study the chart.

We must study from all aspects. in this chart for fifth house mostly all planets

are week. Hence this girl can not have more education. or we can say she may not

have completed her graduation. In general case education is a main reason for

delay in marriage. and seeing the points in WS for fifth all are poor. now

second thing is Blessing, In India in the case of girls, father makes hurry to

get his daughter married. in this case she is having strong blessing so early

marriage. 

>                       Now as we see fifth house is showing less points, means

there is problem in child birth. now we will see the karak for children. That is

12th house and lord of 12th house is situated in sixth house. this spoils the

karak for 5th house. Then we should see the Karakansha ( karakansha is d LORD OF

THE PLANET ) here we will see navansha chart. So navansha lord of a planet is

known as karkansha lord. in this chart navansha lord of mercury (12th lord ) is

again mercury, and in rashi chart mercury is situated in sixth house. This

indicates problem in progeny. Again we must see the Root karak. Root karak is

karak of karak . For 5th house Root karak house is 7th. and lord is Saturn. Sun

is situated in that house. Sun is enemy of Saturn so spoils that house. ( here i

would like to mention that Sun in Saturn's house is spoiled but Saturn in sun's

house do not get spoiled.  Now we will see the natural karak for 5th house

> is Jupiter and karkansha lord  is mars . Mars is situated in Libra and Libra

sign spoils Jupiter.

>                      As all these things indicates problem in progeny, hence

more possibility to get married in the antra of less points for 7th house. now

this girl is married early so after attaining her 18 years age the first planet

is Saturn having less points for 7th house. So here we can say she must have

married in Saturn antra. now here Saturn is delay causing planet but delay is

nullified by blessing so marriage in 2nd sector of Saturn. this means she would

have married after may 1970 to march 1971. we can find out few dates when she

can have marriage from PDF. again in India muhurt (auspicious day ) is followed.

So marriage in this case will be on the day when planets are not more

auspicious. on 16th may Sun's transit was in Venus sign Taurus and in sun's

nakshtra . Sun too is having less power for 7th house and Venus shows 18 points

but karakansha lord of Venus is again in sixth house. So Venus too is spoiled.

>  

>                      This chart was included in seminar for further study of

karakansha effect. Soon I will be giving lesson on karakansha. As Anupjee have

given this chart on list so I have interfere in this.

>   Thanks

> krushna                   

>  

>                        

>  

>  

>  

> On 6/12/09, Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

>

Dear Ramesh ji,

>

> I am not seeing full saturn delay in this chart, since there is blessing I

guess there should not be any delay or moderate delay. If we think of the

situation of women born in that time, I would not be surprised that girls marry

early and as such a mariage of 16-17 would be just normal. My own mother  born

in 1952  married at age 17, my aunt same age range married at 15 .. so I would

not be too much surprised if a planet has sufficient strength to allow mariage

in its period even if age is relatively early.

>

> In this chart, I did not see poor quality of married life (lord of lg/Mo/Su)

with 7L  are all in 3:11, so the partner is probably very compatible and

suitable and mariage has just happened early.

>

> Hari.

>

>

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> aarceemastro2002@ .co. in

> Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:31:06 +0530

>

> RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara

Workshop

>

>

>

>

>

>

Hello Hari Ji,

> Namaste,

> You mean to say that native married at the age of 16/17 years.

> Your 2nd house point is correct.

> Ramesh Mishra

> rcmastro

>

> --- On Fri, 12/6/09, Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

>  

>

> Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

> RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara

Workshop

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> Friday, 12 June, 2009, 7:59 PM

>

>

>

>

> Dear list,

>

> May  I add that the second lord Su is afflicted by mars  and second house is

afflicted by presence of Ke.

> affliction to 2H and 2L gives problems to have progeny.

>

> Hari.

>

>

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

> Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:40:23 -0400

> RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara

Workshop

Dear Anup ji and list members,

>

> This chart has

> 1) sa delay,but Ju checks delay,

> 2) blessing due to elders

> 3) zero due to Sa in 12th

> 4) lg/Mo/Su vs 7thLord  Ok

>

> I think marriage is not delayed and native must have married in Ju antra 3rd

sector between aug68 and may69 (ju being strong in WS and also 4th from Me as

LoE)

>

> For child problem

> low points for all planets ( not greater than 12)

> FK Me gone in 6th house

> RK  (12 house)  has only 19 points hence weak

> lord of RK Me in 6H

> 6L Ju gone in house C

> 5H aspected  maleficaly by sa

>

> so combination of factors comtributed to no child issue.

>

> thanks

>

> Hari

>

>

>

>

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> dalh_1

> Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:35 +0530

> [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara

Workshop

>

>

>

>

>

Dear Group,

>  

>  

>  

> From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules

> mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given

> to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak

> chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)

>  

>  

>  

> All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints

> over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces

> as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with

> KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.

>  

>  

>  

> I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally

> interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it

> is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all charts were derived

> authentically.

>  

>  

> 13 jan 1952

> 18.38pm

> 19 N 03  72 E 52

>  

>  

>  

> Lagna is 4 Cn 59

>  

> This lady has no issue after marriage.

> When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart

> related to progeny?

>  

>  

> I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this

> chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while

> discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.

>  

>  

>  

> Regards

> Anup

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Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Sun, 14/6/09, Jugal Kalani <krushana wrote:

Jugal Kalani <krushana Re: Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop Date: Sunday, 14 June, 2009, 2:08 PM

 

 

Dear Rameshjee,I answer in short. When strong blessing is present all adverse effect are nullified. no break in marriage. As delay due to Sa is not activated due to blessing so delay in the antra only. this also includes zero.Thanks krushnaastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ ...> wrote:>> Respected Guru Ji,> Pranaam,> As you said the female native married on 16 May 1971 in the antara of Sa.and its 3rd sector.> After checking and reading the chart, I found the following observations.> 1.There is full Sa delay.> 2.There is very powerful blessings present in the chart because lagnalord Mo is in lagna with 6 strong bindus and 9th lord Ju

is also in 9th house with strong 6 bindus.Therefore blessings of father is strongly present.Thereby nullifying the delay.> 3.There is one 0 present in SAV chart given by Sa in 12th house.> 4. Su to Ve distance is satisfactory (39 deg 24 min)> 5.Ma is in Ve sign and Ve is in Ma sign.> 6 The native is manglik.> 7.The relationship from lagna/Su/Mo and their 7th lords is 3:10.thus accumulating total 60 points.Thereby giving harmony in the marital relationship. .> > The marriage happened in Sa antara in low and weak SAV point planet> > KAS rule states that marriage accomplishing in low power planet or by 6th lord antara when there is lack of marital bliss.> > Secondly when the next antara of powerful planet begins then there is chances of break in the marital knot.> > Next antara of powerful planet of Ju commences on Jan/76. Since

the planet Ju is RK and placed in 3rd from 7th might have given disharmony or break of their relationship.> But nothing sort of this matter was reported.> > Second point is that the marriage happened in the antara of delay causing planet should have happened in its 1st sector.> The chart has one zero by Sa therefore it should have been in 2nd sector.> But it happened in 3rd sector of delay causing Sa planet.> > Can you please tell us the reason for approaching to the correct timing ?> > Even when blessings are present in the chart then also proper antara of LoD or LoE or the highest sav points of planet begins from 21 Jan 1976, the antara of Ju and Ju is SD to Me(LoE).> Regards.> Ramesh Mishra> rcmastro> > --- On Sat, 13/6/09, krushana Jugal <krushana@.. .> wrote:> > > krushana Jugal <krushana@..

..>> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Saturday, 13 June, 2009, 12:03 AM> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anupjee, Rameshjee, Harijee and all members, > > This chart was given in seminar to discuss some advance points. But time did not permit to discuss advance portion. > In this chart full delay due to Saturn is

indicated, Jupiter can not moderate the delay. But this chart is having very strong blessing. Yes one more thing here as lagna lord is moon and 9th lord is Jupiter are in nav pancham yog. This is also known as Gaj kesari yog. This makes blessing more strong. As ninth lord is Root karak so also blessing of father can reduce the delay. This girl married on 16th may 1971, after completion of her 19 years. > Yes before Going to timing event we must study the chart. We must study from all aspects. in this chart for fifth house mostly all planets are week. Hence this girl can not have more education. or we can say she may not have completed her graduation. In general case education is a main reason for delay in marriage. and seeing the points in WS for fifth all are poor. now second thing is Blessing, In India in the case

of girls, father makes hurry to get his daughter married. in this case she is having strong blessing so early marriage. > Now as we see fifth house is showing less points, means there is problem in child birth. now we will see the karak for children. That is 12th house and lord of 12th house is situated in sixth house. this spoils the karak for 5th house. Then we should see the Karakansha ( karakansha is d LORD OF THE PLANET ) here we will see navansha chart. So navansha lord of a planet is known as karkansha lord. in this chart navansha lord of mercury (12th lord ) is again mercury, and in rashi chart mercury is situated in sixth house. This indicates problem in progeny. Again we must see the Root karak. Root karak is karak of karak . For 5th house Root karak house is 7th. and lord is Saturn. Sun is

situated in that house. Sun is enemy of Saturn so spoils that house. ( here i would like to mention that Sun in Saturn's house is spoiled but Saturn in sun's house do not get spoiled. Now we will see the natural karak for 5th house> is Jupiter and karkansha lord is mars . Mars is situated in Libra and Libra sign spoils Jupiter. > As all these things indicates problem in progeny, hence more possibility to get married in the antra of less points for 7th house. now this girl is married early so after attaining her 18 years age the first planet is Saturn having less points for 7th house. So here we can say she must have married in Saturn antra. now here Saturn is delay causing planet but delay is nullified by blessing so marriage in 2nd sector of Saturn. this means she would have married after may 1970 to

march 1971. we can find out few dates when she can have marriage from PDF. again in India muhurt (auspicious day ) is followed. So marriage in this case will be on the day when planets are not more auspicious. on 16th may Sun's transit was in Venus sign Taurus and in sun's nakshtra . Sun too is having less power for 7th house and Venus shows 18 points but karakansha lord of Venus is again in sixth house. So Venus too is spoiled. > > This chart was included in seminar for further study of karakansha effect. Soon I will be giving lesson on karakansha. As Anupjee have given this chart on list so I have interfere in this. > Thanks> krushna > >

> > > > On 6/12/09, Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji,> > I am not seeing full saturn delay in this chart, since there is blessing I guess there should not be any delay or moderate delay. If we think of the situation of women born in that time, I would not be surprised that girls marry early and as such a mariage of 16-17 would be just normal. My own mother born in 1952 married at age 17, my aunt same age range married at 15 .. so I would not be too much surprised if a planet has sufficient strength to allow mariage in its period even if age is relatively early.> > In this chart, I did not see poor quality of married life (lord of

lg/Mo/Su) with 7L are all in 3:11, so the partner is probably very compatible and suitable and mariage has just happened early.> > Hari.> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:31:06 +0530 > > RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Hari Ji,> Namaste,> You mean to say that native married at the age of 16/17 years.> Your 2nd house point is correct.> Ramesh Mishra> rcmastro> > --- On Fri, 12/6/09, Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > > Va Astro <vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>> RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13

Satara Workshop> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Friday, 12 June, 2009, 7:59 PM> > > > > Dear list,> > May I add that the second lord Su is afflicted by mars and second house is afflicted by presence of Ke.> affliction to 2H and 2L gives problems to have progeny.> > Hari.> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> vaastro (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:40:23 -0400> RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop> > > > > > > Dear Anup ji and list members,> > This chart has > 1) sa delay,but Ju checks delay,> 2) blessing due to elders> 3) zero due to Sa in 12th> 4) lg/Mo/Su vs 7thLord Ok> > I think marriage is not

delayed and native must have married in Ju antra 3rd sector between aug68 and may69 (ju being strong in WS and also 4th from Me as LoE)> > For child problem> low points for all planets ( not greater than 12)> FK Me gone in 6th house> RK (12 house) has only 19 points hence weak> lord of RK Me in 6H> 6L Ju gone in house C> 5H aspected maleficaly by sa> > so combination of factors comtributed to no child issue.> > thanks> > Hari> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> dalh_1 > Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:35 +0530> [astrologyandtiming events] Progeny Problem-Chart N: 13 Satara Workshop> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group,> >

> > From time to time,charts have been presented to understand KAS rules> mostly related to marriage.In Satara Workshop,27 charts were given> to all the participants, nicely arranged in shape of a file (thanks to Deepak > chippalkatti ji,Valenkar ji and Jadhav ji)> > > > All of these were not discussed by Guru ji due to time constraints> over there in all three days.Many important charts were given prefernces > as most of the participants were new and not fully conversant with > KAS,few of them were using pramaparik system like KP and others.> > > > I want to share one of the female's chart with group which was equally > interested and was not related to marriage.No past event is necessary as it> is taken from workshop.I repeat in workshop all

charts were derived> authentically.> > > 13 jan 1952> 18.38pm> 19 N 03 72 E 52> > > > Lagna is 4 Cn 59> > This lady has no issue after marriage.> When she was married and what were the basic problems in her chart > related to progeny?> > > I will also share my views as nothing much was given related to this > chart like marriage date and all.Hope members will understand while> discussing this chart with their KAS knowledge.> > > > Regards> Anup> > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here!> > > > > We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos.

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