Timing for marriage

On Behalf Of Anup. M

Friday July 24, 2009 9:24 AM

Re:

Re: Timing for marriage

Dear

Hussein ji and Prabha ji and group,

First

if we change the time merely by 3 minutes,Sa causes full

delay

In navamsa and lagna becomes vargottam.So correct time is

quite Important

in such charts besides more events.

Considering

the TOB as given by Hussein ji,there is Ju delay only.

The

delay in this chart can also be due to Sun Ve distance,Ju in libra,

Sa

(retro),Ma and Ra aspect on Ve in navamsa,Ju as 6th lord aspecting

Ma,Me.These

are relative factors besides Ju delay.So these all things

should

be kept in mind while calculating delay.

Blessings

in this chart are from moon and sun (in navamsa) only.

Lords

involved are Me and Mars.Both are in aspect of Ju and blessings

are

affected.

FK,RK

and Me as karakansha are all spoiled due to malefic aspect

of

6th lord Ju though these all are together.

What

can be overall effect of this?

Comapring

quality of being together of Karaka,RK,and karakansha

versus

" harsh " aspect of 6th lord Ju on these all,we can make

out some

sense,wherein

9th lords from moon and sun are also covered in this

aspect.This

will definitely temper the blessings.

Regards

Anup

--- On Fri, 24/7/09, Hussein <ahahosien

wrote:

Hussein <ahahosien

Re: Timing for marriage

Friday, 24 July, 2009, 12:36 PM

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com,

" prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@ ...> wrote:

Dear Prabha ji

Thanks for participating in this discussion. I want dear Krushna ji,Ash

ji,Anup ji help us in this discussion.

If Mars and Mercury have lost their power by the aspect of 6th,then how

blessing(being FK and FRK with each other as u told)can help for marriage in

the age of 22?

I think we sould more discuss about that can aspect of Jupiter(as 6th) on

these planet reduce the strength of blessing?If yes,as being Jupiter in Libra

in D9 we will have a full delay marriage.

Best Wishes

Hossein

>

> Dear Hosseinji

> In this chart the FK and FRK are together. So considering that blessings

are there , after completing his education

> [say Approx. 22 yrs] in the year 1960, he was running Ve antra which is

SD to 6th lord Ju. Next Su is also SD to Ju. Then comes Mo antra which is

having 6 points in HoD and is eager to give marriage.

> And Ma, Su, Me are being malefically aspected by Ju and thereby losing

strength. Ju is placed in 5th house in 12th from its own house.

> Thanks

> Prabha

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com,

" Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com,

" prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@ > wrote:

> > Dear Prabha ji

> > I Think When 6th lord is with 9th or 9th lord itself is 6th or 9th

is in black hole then blessing will be weak,not by aspect.(Dear Ash ji,Anup

ji and other members can correct me if I am wrong)

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Hossein

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Hosseinji

> > > In the chart, Sa, Ma, Me, Su which are involved in giving

blessings are all aspected by 6th lord Ju. And Ju also is in Libra.

> > > Thanks

> > > Prabha

> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com,

" Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello Dear Krushna ji,Ash ji,Anup ji and other group

members

> > > > I was working on a chart for timing of marriage.

> > > > Male

> > > > DOB:7-Sep-1938

> > > > TOB:8.56 AM

> > > > POB:18N06 80E30 , India

> > > > He has got married on 28-Feb-1964

> > > > Before I search for the quality of marriage ,at first I

look for blessing and its strength,because a strong blessing will nullify all

bad effects and if It doesn't has any relation with delay causing planet

,Marriage will be early.

> > > > In this chart I didn't see a blessing between 1st and 9th

lords,but I could see blessings from Moon sign lord and 9th lord from it,and

also Sun sign lord and 9th lord from it.(Saturn and Mercury which are i nav

pancham in D9 and Sun and Mars which are with each other in D1.

> > > > But If we look at the date of his marriage,we will see

that because of Jupiter's delay which has ended on 20-Feb-62,he has got

married on Moon Antra .It means blessings have not worked here for reducing

the length of delay.(I think these blessings have nullified bad effects but

have not helped for reducing Jupiter's delay)

> > > > I think it is because of that here Jupiter as delay

causing planet has sight on Sun,Mars and Mercury all in Leo,and also has

sight on Mars and Mercury in D9,then blessing can't help for reducing delay

here.

> > > > Please give your idea about my analysis about this chart.

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > > Hossein

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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, " Ash's Corner " <kas

wrote:

Dear Ash ji and Anup ji and Prabha ji

Thanks for your good attention to my doubts in Astrology.

Yes,as Ash ji has told,I think 8.56 has less delay .

But still something is not clear for me.We have blessings as I told in recent

message.(relative to Sun and Moon)Are these blessings strong or because of 6th

lord aspect these are weak?If we consider it weak then the nature of marriage

will be unhappy(as Anup ji told about some bad factors which available in the

chart consists aspect of 6th on FK,RK,...) but as we see ,It has taken place in

antra of Moon which has 16 pts in WS and doesn't have any relation with 6th

lord.Please guide me about the strength of these blessing.

Best Wishes

Hossein

>

> Dear All,

>

> I just got a chance to go though the chart. The marriage happened in proper

> antra.

>

> Yes, here as Anup ji mentioned a slight change in time will cause delay due

> to Guru and Sa and also due to Ve to Sun distance and Ju in libra etc etc so

> in short a lot of delay if the time is a few mins before 8:56.

>

> With 8:56 only Guru is in libra so that can cause moderate delay. So delay

> is about 24 years. This is given in some mail.

>

> So that time 3rd sector of Sun is running so after that Moon antra starts

> and Moon is in House D with 5 bindus. So it is eager to give timing of

> event.

>

> So moon antra gave marriage.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> On Behalf Of Anup. M

> Friday July 24, 2009 9:24 AM

>

> Re: Re: Timing for marriage

>

> Dear Hussein ji and Prabha ji and group,

>

> First if we change the time merely by 3 minutes,Sa causes full

> delay In navamsa and lagna becomes vargottam.So correct time is

> quite Important in such charts besides more events.

>

> Considering the TOB as given by Hussein ji,there is Ju delay only.

>

> The delay in this chart can also be due to Sun Ve distance,Ju in libra,

> Sa (retro),Ma and Ra aspect on Ve in navamsa,Ju as 6th lord aspecting

> Ma,Me.These are relative factors besides Ju delay.So these all things

> should be kept in mind while calculating delay.

>

> Blessings in this chart are from moon and sun (in navamsa) only.

> Lords involved are Me and Mars.Both are in aspect of Ju and blessings

> are affected.

>

> FK,RK and Me as karakansha are all spoiled due to malefic aspect

> of 6th lord Ju though these all are together.

>

> What can be overall effect of this?

>

> Comapring quality of being together of Karaka,RK,and karakansha

> versus " harsh " aspect of 6th lord Ju on these all,we can make out some

> sense,wherein 9th lords from moon and sun are also covered in this

> aspect.This will definitely temper the blessings.

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

> --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Hussein <ahahosien wrote:

>

> Hussein <ahahosien

> Re: Timing for marriage

>

> Friday, 24 July, 2009, 12:36 PM

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> oogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@ ...> wrote:

> Dear Prabha ji

> Thanks for participating in this discussion. I want dear Krushna ji,Ash

> ji,Anup ji help us in this discussion.

> If Mars and Mercury have lost their power by the aspect of 6th,then how

> blessing(being FK and FRK with each other as u told)can help for marriage in

> the age of 22?

> I think we sould more discuss about that can aspect of Jupiter(as 6th) on

> these planet reduce the strength of blessing?If yes,as being Jupiter in

> Libra in D9 we will have a full delay marriage.

> Best Wishes

> Hossein

>

> >

> > Dear Hosseinji

> > In this chart the FK and FRK are together. So considering that blessings

> are there , after completing his education

> > [say Approx. 22 yrs] in the year 1960, he was running Ve antra which is SD

> to 6th lord Ju. Next Su is also SD to Ju. Then comes Mo antra which is

> having 6 points in HoD and is eager to give marriage.

> > And Ma, Su, Me are being malefically aspected by Ju and thereby losing

> strength. Ju is placed in 5th house in 12th from its own house.

> > Thanks

> > Prabha

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> oogroups.com> , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> hoogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@ > wrote:

> > > Dear Prabha ji

> > > I Think When 6th lord is with 9th or 9th lord itself is 6th or 9th is in

> black hole then blessing will be weak,not by aspect.(Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and

> other members can correct me if I am wrong)

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Hossein

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Hosseinji

> > > > In the chart, Sa, Ma, Me, Su which are involved in giving blessings

> are all aspected by 6th lord Ju. And Ju also is in Libra.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Prabha

> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> <http://in.rd./tagline_local_1/*http:/in.local./>

> oogroups.com> , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello Dear Krushna ji,Ash ji,Anup ji and other group members

> > > > > I was working on a chart for timing of marriage.

> > > > > Male

> > > > > DOB:7-Sep-1938

> > > > > TOB:8.56 AM

> > > > > POB:18N06 80E30 , India

> > > > > He has got married on 28-Feb-1964

> > > > > Before I search for the quality of marriage ,at first I look for

> blessing and its strength,because a strong blessing will nullify all bad

> effects and if It doesn't has any relation with delay causing planet

> ,Marriage will be early.

> > > > > In this chart I didn't see a blessing between 1st and 9th lords,but

> I could see blessings from Moon sign lord and 9th lord from it,and also Sun

> sign lord and 9th lord from it.(Saturn and Mercury which are i nav pancham

> in D9 and Sun and Mars which are with each other in D1.

> > > > > But If we look at the date of his marriage,we will see that because

> of Jupiter's delay which has ended on 20-Feb-62,he has got married on Moon

> Antra .It means blessings have not worked here for reducing the length of

> delay.(I think these blessings have nullified bad effects but have not

> helped for reducing Jupiter's delay)

> > > > > I think it is because of that here Jupiter as delay causing planet

> has sight on Sun,Mars and Mercury all in Leo,and also has sight on Mars and

> Mercury in D9,then blessing can't help for reducing delay here.

> > > > > Please give your idea about my analysis about this chart.

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Hossein

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> _____

>

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>

July 24, 2009

Dear Hussein ji,

Timing of event is different than what we call quality and quantum.

Here moon is situated in 4th house with more than 4 bindus.So it will

Be eager to give event for 7th house as it in house D.

This is timing of event given by moon in due time.

Now quality and quantam of event is different which is assessed

from LoA,house A and RK etc.Here the query was related to blessings

and quality.So you can judge the relative strength of blessings going

through status of Ve,Me,Sa,Su and Mars

Hope it is clear now.

Regards

Anup--- On Fri, 24/7/09, Hussein <ahahosien wrote:

Hussein <ahahosien Re: Timing for marriage Date: Friday, 24 July, 2009, 11:13 PM

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:Dear Ash ji and Anup ji and Prabha jiThanks for your good attention to my doubts in Astrology.Yes,as Ash ji has told,I think 8.56 has less delay .But still something is not clear for me.We have blessings as I told in recent message.(relative to Sun and Moon)Are these blessings strong or because of 6th lord aspect these are weak?If we consider it weak then the nature of marriage will be unhappy(as Anup ji told about some bad factors which available in the chart consists aspect of 6th on FK,RK,...) but as we see ,It has taken place in antra of Moon which has 16 pts in WS and doesn't have any relation with 6th lord.Please guide me about the strength of these

blessing.Best WishesHossein>> Dear All,> > I just got a chance to go though the chart. The marriage happened in proper> antra.> > Yes, here as Anup ji mentioned a slight change in time will cause delay due> to Guru and Sa and also due to Ve to Sun distance and Ju in libra etc etc so> in short a lot of delay if the time is a few mins before 8:56.> > With 8:56 only Guru is in libra so that can cause moderate delay. So delay> is about 24 years. This is given in some mail.> > So that time 3rd sector of Sun is running so after that Moon antra starts> and Moon is in House D with 5 bindus. So it is eager to give timing of> event.> > So moon antra gave marriage. > > Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of Anup. M> Friday July 24, 2009 9:24 AM> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Timing for

marriage> > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Prabha ji and group, > > > First if we change the time merely by 3 minutes,Sa causes full > delay In navamsa and lagna becomes vargottam.So correct time is > quite Important in such charts besides more events. > > Considering the TOB as given by Hussein ji,there is Ju delay only. > > The delay in this chart can also be due to Sun Ve distance,Ju in libra, > Sa (retro),Ma and Ra aspect on Ve in navamsa,Ju as 6th lord aspecting > Ma,Me.These are relative factors besides Ju delay.So these all things > should be kept in mind while calculating delay. > > Blessings in this chart are from moon and sun (in navamsa) only. > Lords involved are Me and Mars.Both are in aspect of Ju and blessings > are affected. > > FK,RK and Me as karakansha are all spoiled due to

malefic aspect > of 6th lord Ju though these all are together. > > What can be overall effect of this? > > Comapring quality of being together of Karaka,RK,and karakansha > versus "harsh" aspect of 6th lord Ju on these all,we can make out some > sense,wherein 9th lords from moon and sun are also covered in this > aspect.This will definitely temper the blessings. > > Regards > Anup > > --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Hussein <ahahosien@. ...> wrote:> > Hussein <ahahosien@. ..>> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Timing for marriage> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Friday, 24 July, 2009, 12:36 PM> >

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <http://in.mc948. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=astrologyandt imingevents% 40yah> oogroups.com> , "prabha.acharya" <prabha.acharya@ ...> wrote:> Dear Prabha ji> Thanks for participating in this discussion. I want dear Krushna ji,Ash> ji,Anup ji help us in this discussion. > If Mars and Mercury have lost their power by the aspect of 6th,then how> blessing(being FK and FRK with each other as u told)can help for marriage in> the age of 22?> I think we sould more discuss about that can aspect of Jupiter(as 6th) on> these planet reduce the strength of blessing?If yes,as being Jupiter in> Libra in D9 we will have a full delay marriage.> Best Wishes> Hossein> > >

>> > Dear Hosseinji> > In this chart the FK and FRK are together. So considering that blessings> are there , after completing his education > > [say Approx. 22 yrs] in the year 1960, he was running Ve antra which is SD> to 6th lord Ju. Next Su is also SD to Ju. Then comes Mo antra which is> having 6 points in HoD and is eager to give marriage.> > And Ma, Su, Me are being malefically aspected by Ju and thereby losing> strength. Ju is placed in 5th house in 12th from its own house.> > Thanks> > Prabha> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <http://in.mc948. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=astrologyandt imingevents% 40yah> oogroups.com> , "Hussein" <ahahosien@> wrote:> > >> > >

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <http://in.mc948. .mail.. com/mc/compose? to=astrologyandt imingevents% 40ya> hoogroups.com> , "prabha.acharya" <prabha.acharya@ > wrote:> > > Dear Prabha ji> > > I Think When 6th lord is with 9th or 9th lord itself is 6th or 9th is in> black hole then blessing will be weak,not by aspect.(Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and> other members can correct me if I am wrong)> > > > > > Best Wishes> > > Hossein> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Dear Hosseinji> > > > In the chart, Sa, Ma, Me, Su which are involved in giving blessings> are all aspected by

6th lord Ju. And Ju also is in Libra. > > > > Thanks> > > > Prabha> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <http://in.mc948. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=astrologyandt imingevents% 40yah> oogroups.com> , "Hussein" <ahahosien@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hello Dear Krushna ji,Ash ji,Anup ji and other group members> > > > > I was working on a chart for timing of marriage.> > > > > Male> > > > > DOB:7-Sep-1938> > > > > TOB:8.56 AM> > > > > POB:18N06 80E30 , India> > > > > He has got married on 28-Feb-1964> > > > > Before I search for the quality of marriage ,at first I look

for> blessing and its strength,because a strong blessing will nullify all bad> effects and if It doesn't has any relation with delay causing planet> ,Marriage will be early.> > > > > In this chart I didn't see a blessing between 1st and 9th lords,but> I could see blessings from Moon sign lord and 9th lord from it,and also Sun> sign lord and 9th lord from it.(Saturn and Mercury which are i nav pancham> in D9 and Sun and Mars which are with each other in D1.> > > > > But If we look at the date of his marriage,we will see that because> of Jupiter's delay which has ended on 20-Feb-62,he has got married on Moon> Antra .It means blessings have not worked here for reducing the length of> delay.(I think these blessings have nullified bad effects but have not> helped for reducing Jupiter's delay)> > > > > I think it is because of that

here Jupiter as delay causing planet> has sight on Sun,Mars and Mercury all in Leo,and also has sight on Mars and> Mercury in D9,then blessing can't help for reducing delay here.> > > > > Please give your idea about my analysis about this chart.> > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > Hossein> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > _____ > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> <http://in.rd. / tagline_local_ 1/*http:/ in.local. />>

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July 24, 2009

Dear Hussein ji,

Here, Guru is in Libra.

So the delay is due to Guru being in Libra. That way Guru is also natural mool karak. Delay is caused due to Guru itself.

For blessing 9th lord must be involved and please

understand Guru ji’s mail to you regarding

blessing. When I was visiting Guru ji, I had written a mail on blessing after discussing with

him from Guru ji’s place to the list. Also read that and try to grasp that

concept.

Keep this chart in mind, for future reference. As an when u solve more and more charts,

this phenomenon will get clear.

It is very difficult to quantify a blessing. In some cases, say if a person is very egotistical

and he will not listen to his father or Guru ji, then

in that case too the blessing will not work. The father/Guru ji

is a well wisher but the native i.e. 1:9 relation ship the SELF is not listening

to elders and therefore the Blessing will not work.

So you must also understand the psychology and closely study

the planets that are involved in blessing and study them from all angles.

You should factor in the education of the native. If some communities despite there being

no delay there can be a delay if the native is studying. So check brilliancy, and dasha that

run. If they favor education then

that is sort of man made delay.

Where in a person does not want to marry until he or she finishes the

education.

So such things also must be factored in. Also keen study of culture and

environment and religion must be kept in mind. Now you are in Iran, so if u are solving

charts of your friends or people from your country then the culture, religious background,

the family’s values etc etc all such things

must be taken into consideration. In

a girls case what is deemed as a lot of delay or what is an early marriage must

be studied keeping in mind desh, kaal

and Paatra principle.

Hope that helps,

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of Hussein

Friday July 24, 2009 1:44 PM

To:

Subject:

Re: Timing for marriage

,

" Ash's Corner " <kas wrote:

Dear Ash ji and Anup ji and Prabha ji

Thanks for your good attention to my doubts in Astrology.

Yes,as Ash ji has told,I think 8.56 has less delay .

But still something is not clear for me.We have blessings as I told in recent

message.(relative to Sun and Moon)Are these blessings strong or because of 6th

lord aspect these are weak?If we consider it weak then the nature of marriage

will be unhappy(as Anup ji told about some bad factors which available in the

chart consists aspect of 6th on FK,RK,...) but as we see ,It has taken place in

antra of Moon which has 16 pts in WS and doesn't have any relation with 6th

lord.Please guide me about the strength of these blessing.

Best Wishes

Hossein

>

> Dear All,

>

> I just got a chance to go though the chart. The marriage happened in

proper

> antra.

>

> Yes, here as Anup ji mentioned a slight change in time will cause delay

due

> to Guru and Sa and also due to Ve to Sun distance and Ju in libra etc etc

so

> in short a lot of delay if the time is a few mins before 8:56.

>

> With 8:56 only Guru is in libra so that can cause moderate delay. So delay

> is about 24 years. This is given in some mail.

>

> So that time 3rd sector of Sun is running so after that Moon antra starts

> and Moon is in House D with 5 bindus. So it is eager to give timing of

> event.

>

> So moon antra gave marriage.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

>

On Behalf Of Anup. M

> Friday July 24, 2009 9:24 AM

>

> Re: Re: Timing for marriage

>

> Dear Hussein ji and Prabha ji and group,

>

> First if we change the time merely by 3 minutes,Sa causes full

> delay In navamsa and lagna becomes vargottam.So correct time is

> quite Important in such charts besides more events.

>

> Considering the TOB as given by Hussein ji,there is Ju delay only.

>

> The delay in this chart can also be due to Sun Ve distance,Ju in libra,

> Sa (retro),Ma and Ra aspect on Ve in navamsa,Ju as 6th lord aspecting

> Ma,Me.These are relative factors besides Ju delay.So these all things

> should be kept in mind while calculating delay.

>

> Blessings in this chart are from moon and sun (in navamsa) only.

> Lords involved are Me and Mars.Both are in aspect of Ju and blessings

> are affected.

>

> FK,RK and Me as karakansha are all spoiled due to malefic aspect

> of 6th lord Ju though these all are together.

>

> What can be overall effect of this?

>

> Comapring quality of being together of Karaka,RK,and karakansha

> versus " harsh " aspect of 6th lord Ju on these all,we can make

out some

> sense,wherein 9th lords from moon and sun are also covered in this

> aspect.This will definitely temper the blessings.

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

> --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Hussein <ahahosien wrote:

>

> Hussein <ahahosien

> Re: Timing for marriage

>

> Friday, 24 July, 2009, 12:36 PM

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> oogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@ ...>

wrote:

> Dear Prabha ji

> Thanks for participating in this discussion. I want dear Krushna ji,Ash

> ji,Anup ji help us in this discussion.

> If Mars and Mercury have lost their power by the aspect of 6th,then how

> blessing(being FK and FRK with each other as u told)can help for marriage in

> the age of 22?

> I think we sould more discuss about that can aspect of Jupiter(as 6th) on

> these planet reduce the strength of blessing?If yes,as being Jupiter in

> Libra in D9 we will have a full delay marriage.

> Best Wishes

> Hossein

>

> >

> > Dear Hosseinji

> > In this chart the FK and FRK are together. So considering that

blessings

> are there , after completing his education

> > [say Approx. 22 yrs] in the year 1960, he was running Ve antra which

is SD

> to 6th lord Ju. Next Su is also SD to Ju. Then comes Mo antra which is

> having 6 points in HoD and is eager to give marriage.

> > And Ma, Su, Me are being malefically aspected by Ju and thereby

losing

> strength. Ju is placed in 5th house in 12th from its own house.

> > Thanks

> > Prabha

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> oogroups.com> , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> hoogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@ >

wrote:

> > > Dear Prabha ji

> > > I Think When 6th lord is with 9th or 9th lord itself is 6th or

9th is in

> black hole then blessing will be weak,not by aspect.(Dear Ash ji,Anup ji

and

> other members can correct me if I am wrong)

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Hossein

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Hosseinji

> > > > In the chart, Sa, Ma, Me, Su which are involved in giving

blessings

> are all aspected by 6th lord Ju. And Ju also is in Libra.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Prabha

> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> <http://in.rd./tagline_local_1/*http:/in.local./>

> oogroups.com> , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello Dear Krushna ji,Ash ji,Anup ji and other group

members

> > > > > I was working on a chart for timing of marriage.

> > > > > Male

> > > > > DOB:7-Sep-1938

> > > > > TOB:8.56 AM

> > > > > POB:18N06 80E30 , India

> > > > > He has got married on 28-Feb-1964

> > > > > Before I search for the quality of marriage ,at first

I look for

> blessing and its strength,because a strong blessing will nullify all bad

> effects and if It doesn't has any relation with delay causing planet

> ,Marriage will be early.

> > > > > In this chart I didn't see a blessing between 1st and

9th lords,but

> I could see blessings from Moon sign lord and 9th lord from it,and also

Sun

> sign lord and 9th lord from it.(Saturn and Mercury which are i nav pancham

> in D9 and Sun and Mars which are with each other in D1.

> > > > > But If we look at the date of his marriage,we will see

that because

> of Jupiter's delay which has ended on 20-Feb-62,he has got married on Moon

> Antra .It means blessings have not worked here for reducing the length of

> delay.(I think these blessings have nullified bad effects but have not

> helped for reducing Jupiter's delay)

> > > > > I think it is because of that here Jupiter as delay

causing planet

> has sight on Sun,Mars and Mercury all in Leo,and also has sight on Mars

and

> Mercury in D9,then blessing can't help for reducing delay here.

> > > > > Please give your idea about my analysis about this

chart.

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Hossein

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> _____

>

> Looking for local information? Find it on Local

>

July 25, 2009

, " Ash's Corner " <kas

wrote:

Dear Ash ji and Anup ji

Thanks for your answers.

As you advised me I referred to last messages and read them.In your message

about blessing you had told " If the blessing has any relation with 6th house or

6th lord then it becomes weak " .Ok,can we say here that because of 6th lord

aspect on Ma,Me ,Su it has made blessings weak?

I checked 1st AV points and there is just 27 pts.Means the native is not

stubborn. I also checked the 5th house pts in WS and saw these are not very

good.

Here is WS :

Bindus 3 6 3 5 7 6 5

Hse SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

1 27 14 18 13 7 25 13 12

2 30 14 12 22 12 15 7 17

3 31 5 5 0 12 20 12 9

4 32 2 16 3 13 18 17 13

5 21 11 16 12 0 15 5 8

6 30 18 6 16 17 21 12 17

7 20 5 16 5 13 21 2- 17

8 29 5 12 4 5 18 17 19

9 39 13 15 18 17 19 19 22

10 26 14 5 22 7 28 12 13

11 30 6 20 11 6 12 10 22

12 22 6 10 0 12 21 2- 18

We all know that this native has got married on Mo antra and the marriage is

happy.So we can say two things here:

1-Blessing is strong but because the aspect of Jupiter as delay causing planet

blessing can't cause an early marriage though marriage is happy.

2-Blessings are not strong here because of the aspect of 6th lord on them.If

so,then because some bad factors in the chart(Venus distance from Sun-Being

Jupiter in Libra,...) marriage will be unhappy but as we know it has taken place

in the antra of Moon as a good planet in WS.then it may not be true .

From the above we can say that state 1 is correct,and aspect of 6th lord on

participating planet in blessing has not made them weak.

I tried to say my results here and please guide me if these are not right.

Best Wishes

Hossein

>

> Dear Hussein ji,

>

> Here, Guru is in Libra. So the delay is due to Guru being in Libra. That

> way Guru is also natural mool karak. Delay is caused due to Guru itself.

>

> For blessing 9th lord must be involved and please understand Guru ji's mail

> to you regarding blessing. When I was visiting Guru ji, I had written a

> mail on blessing after discussing with him from Guru ji's place to the list.

> Also read that and try to grasp that concept.

>

> Keep this chart in mind, for future reference. As an when u solve more and

> more charts, this phenomenon will get clear.

>

> It is very difficult to quantify a blessing. In some cases, say if a person

> is very egotistical and he will not listen to his father or Guru ji, then in

> that case too the blessing will not work. The father/Guru ji is a well

> wisher but the native i.e. 1:9 relation ship the SELF is not listening to

> elders and therefore the Blessing will not work.

>

> So you must also understand the psychology and closely study the planets

> that are involved in blessing and study them from all angles.

>

> You should factor in the education of the native. If some communities

> despite there being no delay there can be a delay if the native is studying.

> So check brilliancy, and dasha that run. If they favor education then that

> is sort of man made delay. Where in a person does not want to marry until

> he or she finishes the education.

>

> So such things also must be factored in. Also keen study of culture and

> environment and religion must be kept in mind. Now you are in Iran, so if u

> are solving charts of your friends or people from your country then the

> culture, religious background, the family's values etc etc all such things

> must be taken into consideration. In a girls case what is deemed as a lot

> of delay or what is an early marriage must be studied keeping in mind desh,

> kaal and Paatra principle.

>

> Hope that helps,

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> On Behalf Of Hussein

> Friday July 24, 2009 1:44 PM

>

> Re: Timing for marriage

>

> <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ "

> <kas@> wrote:

> Dear Ash ji and Anup ji and Prabha ji

> Thanks for your good attention to my doubts in Astrology.

> Yes,as Ash ji has told,I think 8.56 has less delay .

> But still something is not clear for me.We have blessings as I told in

> recent message.(relative to Sun and Moon)Are these blessings strong or

> because of 6th lord aspect these are weak?If we consider it weak then the

> nature of marriage will be unhappy(as Anup ji told about some bad factors

> which available in the chart consists aspect of 6th on FK,RK,...) but as we

> see ,It has taken place in antra of Moon which has 16 pts in WS and doesn't

> have any relation with 6th lord.Please guide me about the strength of these

> blessing.

> Best Wishes

> Hossein

>

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I just got a chance to go though the chart. The marriage happened in

> proper

> > antra.

> >

> > Yes, here as Anup ji mentioned a slight change in time will cause delay

> due

> > to Guru and Sa and also due to Ve to Sun distance and Ju in libra etc etc

> so

> > in short a lot of delay if the time is a few mins before 8:56.

> >

> > With 8:56 only Guru is in libra so that can cause moderate delay. So delay

> > is about 24 years. This is given in some mail.

> >

> > So that time 3rd sector of Sun is running so after that Moon antra starts

> > and Moon is in House D with 5 bindus. So it is eager to give timing of

> > event.

> >

> > So moon antra gave marriage.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> <%40>

> > [

> <%40> ] On Behalf Of Anup. M

> > Friday July 24, 2009 9:24 AM

> >

> <%40>

> > Re: Re: Timing for marriage

> >

> > Dear Hussein ji and Prabha ji and group,

> >

> > First if we change the time merely by 3 minutes,Sa causes full

> > delay In navamsa and lagna becomes vargottam.So correct time is

> > quite Important in such charts besides more events.

> >

> > Considering the TOB as given by Hussein ji,there is Ju delay only.

> >

> > The delay in this chart can also be due to Sun Ve distance,Ju in libra,

> > Sa (retro),Ma and Ra aspect on Ve in navamsa,Ju as 6th lord aspecting

> > Ma,Me.These are relative factors besides Ju delay.So these all things

> > should be kept in mind while calculating delay.

> >

> > Blessings in this chart are from moon and sun (in navamsa) only.

> > Lords involved are Me and Mars.Both are in aspect of Ju and blessings

> > are affected.

> >

> > FK,RK and Me as karakansha are all spoiled due to malefic aspect

> > of 6th lord Ju though these all are together.

> >

> > What can be overall effect of this?

> >

> > Comapring quality of being together of Karaka,RK,and karakansha

> > versus " harsh " aspect of 6th lord Ju on these all,we can make out some

> > sense,wherein 9th lords from moon and sun are also covered in this

> > aspect.This will definitely temper the blessings.

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

> > --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Hussein <ahahosien@> wrote:

> >

> > Hussein <ahahosien@>

> > Re: Timing for marriage

> >

> <%40>

> > Friday, 24 July, 2009, 12:36 PM

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> >

> > oogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@ ...> wrote:

> > Dear Prabha ji

> > Thanks for participating in this discussion. I want dear Krushna ji,Ash

> > ji,Anup ji help us in this discussion.

> > If Mars and Mercury have lost their power by the aspect of 6th,then how

> > blessing(being FK and FRK with each other as u told)can help for marriage

> in

> > the age of 22?

> > I think we sould more discuss about that can aspect of Jupiter(as 6th) on

> > these planet reduce the strength of blessing?If yes,as being Jupiter in

> > Libra in D9 we will have a full delay marriage.

> > Best Wishes

> > Hossein

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Hosseinji

> > > In this chart the FK and FRK are together. So considering that blessings

> > are there , after completing his education

> > > [say Approx. 22 yrs] in the year 1960, he was running Ve antra which is

> SD

> > to 6th lord Ju. Next Su is also SD to Ju. Then comes Mo antra which is

> > having 6 points in HoD and is eager to give marriage.

> > > And Ma, Su, Me are being malefically aspected by Ju and thereby losing

> > strength. Ju is placed in 5th house in 12th from its own house.

> > > Thanks

> > > Prabha

> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> >

> > oogroups.com> , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> >

> > hoogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@ > wrote:

> > > > Dear Prabha ji

> > > > I Think When 6th lord is with 9th or 9th lord itself is 6th or 9th is

> in

> > black hole then blessing will be weak,not by aspect.(Dear Ash ji,Anup ji

> and

> > other members can correct me if I am wrong)

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > > Hossein

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Hosseinji

> > > > > In the chart, Sa, Ma, Me, Su which are involved in giving blessings

> > are all aspected by 6th lord Ju. And Ju also is in Libra.

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Prabha

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> >

> > <http://in.rd./tagline_local_1/*http:/in.local./>

> > oogroups.com> , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello Dear Krushna ji,Ash ji,Anup ji and other group members

> > > > > > I was working on a chart for timing of marriage.

> > > > > > Male

> > > > > > DOB:7-Sep-1938

> > > > > > TOB:8.56 AM

> > > > > > POB:18N06 80E30 , India

> > > > > > He has got married on 28-Feb-1964

> > > > > > Before I search for the quality of marriage ,at first I look for

> > blessing and its strength,because a strong blessing will nullify all bad

> > effects and if It doesn't has any relation with delay causing planet

> > ,Marriage will be early.

> > > > > > In this chart I didn't see a blessing between 1st and 9th

> lords,but

> > I could see blessings from Moon sign lord and 9th lord from it,and also

> Sun

> > sign lord and 9th lord from it.(Saturn and Mercury which are i nav pancham

> > in D9 and Sun and Mars which are with each other in D1.

> > > > > > But If we look at the date of his marriage,we will see that

> because

> > of Jupiter's delay which has ended on 20-Feb-62,he has got married on Moon

> > Antra .It means blessings have not worked here for reducing the length of

> > delay.(I think these blessings have nullified bad effects but have not

> > helped for reducing Jupiter's delay)

> > > > > > I think it is because of that here Jupiter as delay causing planet

> > has sight on Sun,Mars and Mercury all in Leo,and also has sight on Mars

> and

> > Mercury in D9,then blessing can't help for reducing delay here.

> > > > > > Please give your idea about my analysis about this chart.

> > > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > > Hossein

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Looking for local information? Find it on Local

> >

>

July 25, 2009

Dear Hussein ji,

The main theme is that Guru itself is causing delay. Guru is the 9th lord so it cannot

check its own delay. Therefore marriage happened

after 24th year.

I hope its clear.

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of Hussein

Saturday July 25, 2009 2:05

AM

To:

Re: Timing for marriage

,

" Ash's Corner " <kas wrote:

Dear Ash ji and Anup ji

Thanks for your answers.

As you advised me I referred to last messages and read them.In your message

about blessing you had told " If the blessing has any relation with 6th

house or 6th lord then it becomes weak " .Ok,can we say here that because of

6th lord aspect on Ma,Me ,Su it has made blessings weak?

I checked 1st AV points and there is just 27 pts.Means the native is not

stubborn. I also checked the 5th house pts in WS and saw these are not very

good.

Here is WS :

Bindus 3 6 3 5 7 6 5

Hse SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

1 27 14 18 13 7 25 13 12

2 30 14 12 22 12 15 7 17

3 31 5 5 0 12 20 12 9

4 32 2 16 3 13 18 17 13

5 21 11 16 12 0 15 5 8

6 30 18 6 16 17 21 12 17

7 20 5 16 5 13 21 2- 17

8 29 5 12 4 5 18 17 19

9 39 13 15 18 17 19 19 22

10 26 14 5 22 7 28 12 13

11 30 6 20 11 6 12 10 22

12 22 6 10 0 12 21 2- 18

We all know that this native has got married on Mo antra and the marriage is

happy.So we can say two things here:

1-Blessing is strong but because the aspect of Jupiter as delay causing planet

blessing can't cause an early marriage though marriage is happy.

2-Blessings are not strong here because of the aspect of 6th lord on them.If

so,then because some bad factors in the chart(Venus distance from Sun-Being

Jupiter in Libra,...) marriage will be unhappy but as we know it has taken

place in the antra of Moon as a good planet in WS.then it may not be true .

From the above we can say that state 1 is correct,and aspect of 6th lord on

participating planet in blessing has not made them weak.

I tried to say my results here and please guide me if these are not right.

Best Wishes

Hossein

>

> Dear Hussein ji,

>

> Here, Guru is in Libra. So the delay is due to Guru being in Libra. That

> way Guru is also natural mool karak. Delay is caused due to Guru itself.

>

> For blessing 9th lord must be involved and please understand Guru ji's

mail

> to you regarding blessing. When I was visiting Guru ji, I had written a

> mail on blessing after discussing with him from Guru ji's place to the

list.

> Also read that and try to grasp that concept.

>

> Keep this chart in mind, for future reference. As an when u solve more and

> more charts, this phenomenon will get clear.

>

> It is very difficult to quantify a blessing. In some cases, say if a

person

> is very egotistical and he will not listen to his father or Guru ji, then

in

> that case too the blessing will not work. The father/Guru ji is a well

> wisher but the native i.e. 1:9 relation ship the SELF is not listening to

> elders and therefore the Blessing will not work.

>

> So you must also understand the psychology and closely study the planets

> that are involved in blessing and study them from all angles.

>

> You should factor in the education of the native. If some communities

> despite there being no delay there can be a delay if the native is

studying.

> So check brilliancy, and dasha that run. If they favor education then that

> is sort of man made delay. Where in a person does not want to marry until

> he or she finishes the education.

>

> So such things also must be factored in. Also keen study of culture and

> environment and religion must be kept in mind. Now you are in Iran, so if

u

> are solving charts of your friends or people from your country then the

> culture, religious background, the family's values etc etc all such things

> must be taken into consideration. In a girls case what is deemed as a lot

> of delay or what is an early marriage must be studied keeping in mind

desh,

> kaal and Paatra principle.

>

> Hope that helps,

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

>

On Behalf Of Hussein

> Friday July 24, 2009 1:44 PM

>

> Re: Timing for marriage

>

> <%40> , " Ash's

Corner@ "

> <kas@> wrote:

> Dear Ash ji and Anup ji and Prabha ji

> Thanks for your good attention to my doubts in Astrology.

> Yes,as Ash ji has told,I think 8.56 has less delay .

> But still something is not clear for me.We have blessings as I told in

> recent message.(relative to Sun and Moon)Are these blessings strong or

> because of 6th lord aspect these are weak?If we consider it weak then the

> nature of marriage will be unhappy(as Anup ji told about some bad factors

> which available in the chart consists aspect of 6th on FK,RK,...) but as

we

> see ,It has taken place in antra of Moon which has 16 pts in WS and

doesn't

> have any relation with 6th lord.Please guide me about the strength of

these

> blessing.

> Best Wishes

> Hossein

>

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I just got a chance to go though the chart. The marriage happened in

> proper

> > antra.

> >

> > Yes, here as Anup ji mentioned a slight change in time will cause

delay

> due

> > to Guru and Sa and also due to Ve to Sun distance and Ju in libra etc

etc

> so

> > in short a lot of delay if the time is a few mins before 8:56.

> >

> > With 8:56 only Guru is in libra so that can cause moderate delay. So

delay

> > is about 24 years. This is given in some mail.

> >

> > So that time 3rd sector of Sun is running so after that Moon antra

starts

> > and Moon is in House D with 5 bindus. So it is eager to give timing

of

> > event.

> >

> > So moon antra gave marriage.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> >

> <%40>

> > [

> <%40> ] On Behalf Of

Anup. M

> > Friday July 24, 2009 9:24 AM

> >

> <%40>

> > Re: Re: Timing for marriage

> >

> > Dear Hussein ji and Prabha ji and group,

> >

> > First if we change the time merely by 3 minutes,Sa causes full

> > delay In navamsa and lagna becomes vargottam.So correct time is

> > quite Important in such charts besides more events.

> >

> > Considering the TOB as given by Hussein ji,there is Ju delay only.

> >

> > The delay in this chart can also be due to Sun Ve distance,Ju in

libra,

> > Sa (retro),Ma and Ra aspect on Ve in navamsa,Ju as 6th lord aspecting

> > Ma,Me.These are relative factors besides Ju delay.So these all things

> > should be kept in mind while calculating delay.

> >

> > Blessings in this chart are from moon and sun (in navamsa) only.

> > Lords involved are Me and Mars.Both are in aspect of Ju and blessings

> > are affected.

> >

> > FK,RK and Me as karakansha are all spoiled due to malefic aspect

> > of 6th lord Ju though these all are together.

> >

> > What can be overall effect of this?

> >

> > Comapring quality of being together of Karaka,RK,and karakansha

> > versus " harsh " aspect of 6th lord Ju on these all,we can

make out some

> > sense,wherein 9th lords from moon and sun are also covered in this

> > aspect.This will definitely temper the blessings.

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

> > --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Hussein <ahahosien@> wrote:

> >

> > Hussein <ahahosien@>

> > Re: Timing for marriage

> >

> <%40>

> > Friday, 24 July, 2009, 12:36 PM

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> >

> > oogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@

....> wrote:

> > Dear Prabha ji

> > Thanks for participating in this discussion. I want dear Krushna

ji,Ash

> > ji,Anup ji help us in this discussion.

> > If Mars and Mercury have lost their power by the aspect of 6th,then

how

> > blessing(being FK and FRK with each other as u told)can help for

marriage

> in

> > the age of 22?

> > I think we sould more discuss about that can aspect of Jupiter(as

6th) on

> > these planet reduce the strength of blessing?If yes,as being Jupiter

in

> > Libra in D9 we will have a full delay marriage.

> > Best Wishes

> > Hossein

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Hosseinji

> > > In this chart the FK and FRK are together. So considering that

blessings

> > are there , after completing his education

> > > [say Approx. 22 yrs] in the year 1960, he was running Ve antra

which is

> SD

> > to 6th lord Ju. Next Su is also SD to Ju. Then comes Mo antra which

is

> > having 6 points in HoD and is eager to give marriage.

> > > And Ma, Su, Me are being malefically aspected by Ju and thereby

losing

> > strength. Ju is placed in 5th house in 12th from its own house.

> > > Thanks

> > > Prabha

> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> >

> > oogroups.com> , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> >

> > hoogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@

> wrote:

> > > > Dear Prabha ji

> > > > I Think When 6th lord is with 9th or 9th lord itself is 6th

or 9th is

> in

> > black hole then blessing will be weak,not by aspect.(Dear Ash ji,Anup

ji

> and

> > other members can correct me if I am wrong)

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > > Hossein

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Hosseinji

> > > > > In the chart, Sa, Ma, Me, Su which are involved in

giving blessings

> > are all aspected by 6th lord Ju. And Ju also is in Libra.

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Prabha

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> >

> > <http://in.rd./tagline_local_1/*http:/in.local./>

> > oogroups.com> , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello Dear Krushna ji,Ash ji,Anup ji and other

group members

> > > > > > I was working on a chart for timing of marriage.

> > > > > > Male

> > > > > > DOB:7-Sep-1938

> > > > > > TOB:8.56 AM

> > > > > > POB:18N06 80E30 , India

> > > > > > He has got married on 28-Feb-1964

> > > > > > Before I search for the quality of marriage ,at

first I look for

> > blessing and its strength,because a strong blessing will nullify all

bad

> > effects and if It doesn't has any relation with delay causing planet

> > ,Marriage will be early.

> > > > > > In this chart I didn't see a blessing between 1st

and 9th

> lords,but

> > I could see blessings from Moon sign lord and 9th lord from it,and

also

> Sun

> > sign lord and 9th lord from it.(Saturn and Mercury which are i nav

pancham

> > in D9 and Sun and Mars which are with each other in D1.

> > > > > > But If we look at the date of his marriage,we

will see that

> because

> > of Jupiter's delay which has ended on 20-Feb-62,he has got married on

Moon

> > Antra .It means blessings have not worked here for reducing the

length of

> > delay.(I think these blessings have nullified bad effects but have

not

> > helped for reducing Jupiter's delay)

> > > > > > I think it is because of that here Jupiter as

delay causing planet

> > has sight on Sun,Mars and Mercury all in Leo,and also has sight on

Mars

> and

> > Mercury in D9,then blessing can't help for reducing delay here.

> > > > > > Please give your idea about my analysis about

this chart.

> > > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > > Hossein

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Looking for local information? Find it on Local

> >

>

July 25, 2009

, " Ash's Corner " <kas

wrote:

Dear Ash ji

Thank you for your good answer.

I think I have another problem for quality of marriage(for each chart)

as Guru ji has told in lessons,when quality of marriage is bad,It will happen in

the sub of 6th or planet with low point.

In lesson 10 Guru ji has told:

" These are the main factors and the general laws that contribute to a happy

married life. We have a total of 15 general laws. If we give 10 points for each

law that proves to be true out of those 15 and come up with a total of 60 points

or more, we can say that the married life will be a satisfactory one. The more

points we come up with out of a total of 150 points, the happier the marriage

will be. "

Should we do this for all charts?If we want to give 10 pts for each of 15 laws

that guru ji has told it will be difficult.For example in a law(law 7) we have :

" If any planet gets more points due to the aspect of the sixth lord, then the

strength of the planet for a happy marriage should be considered, thereby

deleting the points. "

how can we apply this for a chart and select between 0 to 15 for the chart?

How can we say that the marriage is happy or unhappy with confidence? Yes

sometimes we have strong blessings and that is different,but in many charts it's

difficult to say that marriage is happy or unhappy.assume in a chart relations

are not good.7th house in WS has good points.FK has good position but RK has

not.HOD has good position but LOE has not.I mean good and bad with each

other,how can we judge it.

I hope I could say my problem clearly .Waiting your good answers.

Best Wishes

Hossein

>

> Dear Hussein ji,

>

> The main theme is that Guru itself is causing delay. Guru is the 9th lord

> so it cannot check its own delay. Therefore marriage happened after 24th

> year.

>

> I hope its clear.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> On Behalf Of Hussein

> Saturday July 25, 2009 2:05 AM

>

> Re: Timing for marriage

>

> <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ "

> <kas@> wrote:

> Dear Ash ji and Anup ji

> Thanks for your answers.

> As you advised me I referred to last messages and read them.In your message

> about blessing you had told " If the blessing has any relation with 6th house

> or 6th lord then it becomes weak " .Ok,can we say here that because of 6th

> lord aspect on Ma,Me ,Su it has made blessings weak?

> I checked 1st AV points and there is just 27 pts.Means the native is not

> stubborn. I also checked the 5th house pts in WS and saw these are not very

> good.

> Here is WS :

> Bindus 3 6 3 5 7 6 5

> Hse SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> 1 27 14 18 13 7 25 13 12

> 2 30 14 12 22 12 15 7 17

> 3 31 5 5 0 12 20 12 9

> 4 32 2 16 3 13 18 17 13

> 5 21 11 16 12 0 15 5 8

> 6 30 18 6 16 17 21 12 17

> 7 20 5 16 5 13 21 2- 17

> 8 29 5 12 4 5 18 17 19

> 9 39 13 15 18 17 19 19 22

> 10 26 14 5 22 7 28 12 13

> 11 30 6 20 11 6 12 10 22

> 12 22 6 10 0 12 21 2- 18

>

> We all know that this native has got married on Mo antra and the marriage is

> happy.So we can say two things here:

> 1-Blessing is strong but because the aspect of Jupiter as delay causing

> planet blessing can't cause an early marriage though marriage is happy.

> 2-Blessings are not strong here because of the aspect of 6th lord on them.If

> so,then because some bad factors in the chart(Venus distance from Sun-Being

> Jupiter in Libra,...) marriage will be unhappy but as we know it has taken

> place in the antra of Moon as a good planet in WS.then it may not be true .

> From the above we can say that state 1 is correct,and aspect of 6th lord on

> participating planet in blessing has not made them weak.

> I tried to say my results here and please guide me if these are not right.

> Best Wishes

> Hossein

>

> >

> > Dear Hussein ji,

> >

> > Here, Guru is in Libra. So the delay is due to Guru being in Libra. That

> > way Guru is also natural mool karak. Delay is caused due to Guru itself.

> >

> > For blessing 9th lord must be involved and please understand Guru ji's

> mail

> > to you regarding blessing. When I was visiting Guru ji, I had written a

> > mail on blessing after discussing with him from Guru ji's place to the

> list.

> > Also read that and try to grasp that concept.

> >

> > Keep this chart in mind, for future reference. As an when u solve more and

> > more charts, this phenomenon will get clear.

> >

> > It is very difficult to quantify a blessing. In some cases, say if a

> person

> > is very egotistical and he will not listen to his father or Guru ji, then

> in

> > that case too the blessing will not work. The father/Guru ji is a well

> > wisher but the native i.e. 1:9 relation ship the SELF is not listening to

> > elders and therefore the Blessing will not work.

> >

> > So you must also understand the psychology and closely study the planets

> > that are involved in blessing and study them from all angles.

> >

> > You should factor in the education of the native. If some communities

> > despite there being no delay there can be a delay if the native is

> studying.

> > So check brilliancy, and dasha that run. If they favor education then that

> > is sort of man made delay. Where in a person does not want to marry until

> > he or she finishes the education.

> >

> > So such things also must be factored in. Also keen study of culture and

> > environment and religion must be kept in mind. Now you are in Iran, so if

> u

> > are solving charts of your friends or people from your country then the

> > culture, religious background, the family's values etc etc all such things

> > must be taken into consideration. In a girls case what is deemed as a lot

> > of delay or what is an early marriage must be studied keeping in mind

> desh,

> > kaal and Paatra principle.

> >

> > Hope that helps,

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> <%40>

> > [

> <%40> ] On Behalf Of Hussein

> > Friday July 24, 2009 1:44 PM

> >

> <%40>

> > Re: Timing for marriage

> >

> <%40>

> > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ "

> > <kas@> wrote:

> > Dear Ash ji and Anup ji and Prabha ji

> > Thanks for your good attention to my doubts in Astrology.

> > Yes,as Ash ji has told,I think 8.56 has less delay .

> > But still something is not clear for me.We have blessings as I told in

> > recent message.(relative to Sun and Moon)Are these blessings strong or

> > because of 6th lord aspect these are weak?If we consider it weak then the

> > nature of marriage will be unhappy(as Anup ji told about some bad factors

> > which available in the chart consists aspect of 6th on FK,RK,...) but as

> we

> > see ,It has taken place in antra of Moon which has 16 pts in WS and

> doesn't

> > have any relation with 6th lord.Please guide me about the strength of

> these

> > blessing.

> > Best Wishes

> > Hossein

> >

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > I just got a chance to go though the chart. The marriage happened in

> > proper

> > > antra.

> > >

> > > Yes, here as Anup ji mentioned a slight change in time will cause delay

> > due

> > > to Guru and Sa and also due to Ve to Sun distance and Ju in libra etc

> etc

> > so

> > > in short a lot of delay if the time is a few mins before 8:56.

> > >

> > > With 8:56 only Guru is in libra so that can cause moderate delay. So

> delay

> > > is about 24 years. This is given in some mail.

> > >

> > > So that time 3rd sector of Sun is running so after that Moon antra

> starts

> > > and Moon is in House D with 5 bindus. So it is eager to give timing of

> > > event.

> > >

> > > So moon antra gave marriage.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > [

> <%40>

> > <%40> ] On Behalf Of Anup. M

> > > Friday July 24, 2009 9:24 AM

> > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > Re: Re: Timing for marriage

> > >

> > > Dear Hussein ji and Prabha ji and group,

> > >

> > > First if we change the time merely by 3 minutes,Sa causes full

> > > delay In navamsa and lagna becomes vargottam.So correct time is

> > > quite Important in such charts besides more events.

> > >

> > > Considering the TOB as given by Hussein ji,there is Ju delay only.

> > >

> > > The delay in this chart can also be due to Sun Ve distance,Ju in libra,

> > > Sa (retro),Ma and Ra aspect on Ve in navamsa,Ju as 6th lord aspecting

> > > Ma,Me.These are relative factors besides Ju delay.So these all things

> > > should be kept in mind while calculating delay.

> > >

> > > Blessings in this chart are from moon and sun (in navamsa) only.

> > > Lords involved are Me and Mars.Both are in aspect of Ju and blessings

> > > are affected.

> > >

> > > FK,RK and Me as karakansha are all spoiled due to malefic aspect

> > > of 6th lord Ju though these all are together.

> > >

> > > What can be overall effect of this?

> > >

> > > Comapring quality of being together of Karaka,RK,and karakansha

> > > versus " harsh " aspect of 6th lord Ju on these all,we can make out some

> > > sense,wherein 9th lords from moon and sun are also covered in this

> > > aspect.This will definitely temper the blessings.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Anup

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Hussein <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hussein <ahahosien@>

> > > Re: Timing for marriage

> > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > Friday, 24 July, 2009, 12:36 PM

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > >

> >

> > > oogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@ ...> wrote:

> > > Dear Prabha ji

> > > Thanks for participating in this discussion. I want dear Krushna ji,Ash

> > > ji,Anup ji help us in this discussion.

> > > If Mars and Mercury have lost their power by the aspect of 6th,then how

> > > blessing(being FK and FRK with each other as u told)can help for

> marriage

> > in

> > > the age of 22?

> > > I think we sould more discuss about that can aspect of Jupiter(as 6th)

> on

> > > these planet reduce the strength of blessing?If yes,as being Jupiter in

> > > Libra in D9 we will have a full delay marriage.

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Hossein

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Hosseinji

> > > > In this chart the FK and FRK are together. So considering that

> blessings

> > > are there , after completing his education

> > > > [say Approx. 22 yrs] in the year 1960, he was running Ve antra which

> is

> > SD

> > > to 6th lord Ju. Next Su is also SD to Ju. Then comes Mo antra which is

> > > having 6 points in HoD and is eager to give marriage.

> > > > And Ma, Su, Me are being malefically aspected by Ju and thereby losing

> > > strength. Ju is placed in 5th house in 12th from its own house.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Prabha

> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > >

> >

> > > oogroups.com> , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > >

> >

> > > hoogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@ > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Prabha ji

> > > > > I Think When 6th lord is with 9th or 9th lord itself is 6th or 9th

> is

> > in

> > > black hole then blessing will be weak,not by aspect.(Dear Ash ji,Anup ji

> > and

> > > other members can correct me if I am wrong)

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Hossein

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Hosseinji

> > > > > > In the chart, Sa, Ma, Me, Su which are involved in giving

> blessings

> > > are all aspected by 6th lord Ju. And Ju also is in Libra.

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Prabha

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > >

> >

> > > oogroups.com> , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hello Dear Krushna ji,Ash ji,Anup ji and other group members

> > > > > > > I was working on a chart for timing of marriage.

> > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > DOB:7-Sep-1938

> > > > > > > TOB:8.56 AM

> > > > > > > POB:18N06 80E30 , India

> > > > > > > He has got married on 28-Feb-1964

> > > > > > > Before I search for the quality of marriage ,at first I look for

> > > blessing and its strength,because a strong blessing will nullify all bad

> > > effects and if It doesn't has any relation with delay causing planet

> > > ,Marriage will be early.

> > > > > > > In this chart I didn't see a blessing between 1st and 9th

> > lords,but

> > > I could see blessings from Moon sign lord and 9th lord from it,and also

> > Sun

> > > sign lord and 9th lord from it.(Saturn and Mercury which are i nav

> pancham

> > > in D9 and Sun and Mars which are with each other in D1.

> > > > > > > But If we look at the date of his marriage,we will see that

> > because

> > > of Jupiter's delay which has ended on 20-Feb-62,he has got married on

> Moon

> > > Antra .It means blessings have not worked here for reducing the length

> of

> > > delay.(I think these blessings have nullified bad effects but have not

> > > helped for reducing Jupiter's delay)

> > > > > > > I think it is because of that here Jupiter as delay causing

> planet

> > > has sight on Sun,Mars and Mercury all in Leo,and also has sight on Mars

> > and

> > > Mercury in D9,then blessing can't help for reducing delay here.

> > > > > > > Please give your idea about my analysis about this chart.

> > > > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > > > Hossein

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local

> > > <http://in.rd./tagline_local_1/*http:/in.local./>

> > >

> >

>

July 25, 2009

Dear Hussein ji,

The essence of what Guru ji wrote

in that mail, to my understanding is that the more problems are there, then

marriage might take place in lowest power planet. Things like no children or multiple marriage

or divorce etc.

That is based on judgment and that will come with experience

after solving many charts.

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of Hussein

Saturday July 25, 2009 3:15

PM

Subject:

Re: Timing for marriage

,

" Ash's Corner " <kas wrote:

Dear Ash ji

Thank you for your good answer.

I think I have another problem for quality of marriage(for each chart)

as Guru ji has told in lessons,when quality of marriage is bad,It will happen

in the sub of 6th or planet with low point.

In lesson 10 Guru ji has told:

" These are the main factors and the general laws that contribute to a

happy married life. We have a total of 15 general laws. If we give 10 points

for each law that proves to be true out of those 15 and come up with a total of

60 points or more, we can say that the married life will be a satisfactory one.

The more points we come up with out of a total of 150 points, the happier the

marriage will be. "

Should we do this for all charts?If we want to give 10 pts for each of 15 laws

that guru ji has told it will be difficult.For example in a law(law 7) we have

:

" If any planet gets more points due to the aspect of the sixth lord, then

the strength of the planet for a happy marriage should be considered, thereby

deleting the points. "

how can we apply this for a chart and select between 0 to 15 for the chart?

How can we say that the marriage is happy or unhappy with confidence? Yes

sometimes we have strong blessings and that is different,but in many charts

it's difficult to say that marriage is happy or unhappy.assume in a chart

relations are not good.7th house in WS has good points.FK has good position but

RK has not.HOD has good position but LOE has not.I mean good and bad with each

other,how can we judge it.

I hope I could say my problem clearly .Waiting your good answers.

Best Wishes

Hossein

>

> Dear Hussein ji,

>

> The main theme is that Guru itself is causing delay. Guru is the 9th lord

> so it cannot check its own delay. Therefore marriage happened after 24th

> year.

>

> I hope its clear.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

>

On Behalf Of Hussein

> Saturday July 25, 2009 2:05 AM

>

> Re: Timing for marriage

>

> <%40> , " Ash's

Corner@ "

> <kas@> wrote:

> Dear Ash ji and Anup ji

> Thanks for your answers.

> As you advised me I referred to last messages and read them.In your

message

> about blessing you had told " If the blessing has any relation with

6th house

> or 6th lord then it becomes weak " .Ok,can we say here that because of

6th

> lord aspect on Ma,Me ,Su it has made blessings weak?

> I checked 1st AV points and there is just 27 pts.Means the native is not

> stubborn. I also checked the 5th house pts in WS and saw these are not

very

> good.

> Here is WS :

> Bindus 3 6 3 5 7 6 5

> Hse SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> 1 27 14 18 13 7 25 13 12

> 2 30 14 12 22 12 15 7 17

> 3 31 5 5 0 12 20 12 9

> 4 32 2 16 3 13 18 17 13

> 5 21 11 16 12 0 15 5 8

> 6 30 18 6 16 17 21 12 17

> 7 20 5 16 5 13 21 2- 17

> 8 29 5 12 4 5 18 17 19

> 9 39 13 15 18 17 19 19 22

> 10 26 14 5 22 7 28 12 13

> 11 30 6 20 11 6 12 10 22

> 12 22 6 10 0 12 21 2- 18

>

> We all know that this native has got married on Mo antra and the marriage

is

> happy.So we can say two things here:

> 1-Blessing is strong but because the aspect of Jupiter as delay causing

> planet blessing can't cause an early marriage though marriage is happy.

> 2-Blessings are not strong here because of the aspect of 6th lord on

them.If

> so,then because some bad factors in the chart(Venus distance from

Sun-Being

> Jupiter in Libra,...) marriage will be unhappy but as we know it has taken

> place in the antra of Moon as a good planet in WS.then it may not be true

..

> From the above we can say that state 1 is correct,and aspect of 6th lord

on

> participating planet in blessing has not made them weak.

> I tried to say my results here and please guide me if these are not right.

> Best Wishes

> Hossein

>

> >

> > Dear Hussein ji,

> >

> > Here, Guru is in Libra. So the delay is due to Guru being in Libra.

That

> > way Guru is also natural mool karak. Delay is caused due to Guru

itself.

> >

> > For blessing 9th lord must be involved and please understand Guru

ji's

> mail

> > to you regarding blessing. When I was visiting Guru ji, I had written

a

> > mail on blessing after discussing with him from Guru ji's place to

the

> list.

> > Also read that and try to grasp that concept.

> >

> > Keep this chart in mind, for future reference. As an when u solve

more and

> > more charts, this phenomenon will get clear.

> >

> > It is very difficult to quantify a blessing. In some cases, say if a

> person

> > is very egotistical and he will not listen to his father or Guru ji,

then

> in

> > that case too the blessing will not work. The father/Guru ji is a

well

> > wisher but the native i.e. 1:9 relation ship the SELF is not

listening to

> > elders and therefore the Blessing will not work.

> >

> > So you must also understand the psychology and closely study the

planets

> > that are involved in blessing and study them from all angles.

> >

> > You should factor in the education of the native. If some communities

> > despite there being no delay there can be a delay if the native is

> studying.

> > So check brilliancy, and dasha that run. If they favor education then

that

> > is sort of man made delay. Where in a person does not want to marry

until

> > he or she finishes the education.

> >

> > So such things also must be factored in. Also keen study of culture

and

> > environment and religion must be kept in mind. Now you are in Iran,

so if

> u

> > are solving charts of your friends or people from your country then

the

> > culture, religious background, the family's values etc etc all such

things

> > must be taken into consideration. In a girls case what is deemed as a

lot

> > of delay or what is an early marriage must be studied keeping in mind

> desh,

> > kaal and Paatra principle.

> >

> > Hope that helps,

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> >

> <%40>

> > [

> <%40> ] On Behalf Of

Hussein

> > Friday July 24, 2009 1:44 PM

> >

> <%40>

> > Re: Timing for marriage

> >

> <%40>

> > <%40> ,

" Ash's Corner@ "

> > <kas@> wrote:

> > Dear Ash ji and Anup ji and Prabha ji

> > Thanks for your good attention to my doubts in Astrology.

> > Yes,as Ash ji has told,I think 8.56 has less delay .

> > But still something is not clear for me.We have blessings as I told

in

> > recent message.(relative to Sun and Moon)Are these blessings strong

or

> > because of 6th lord aspect these are weak?If we consider it weak then

the

> > nature of marriage will be unhappy(as Anup ji told about some bad

factors

> > which available in the chart consists aspect of 6th on FK,RK,...) but

as

> we

> > see ,It has taken place in antra of Moon which has 16 pts in WS and

> doesn't

> > have any relation with 6th lord.Please guide me about the strength of

> these

> > blessing.

> > Best Wishes

> > Hossein

> >

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > I just got a chance to go though the chart. The marriage

happened in

> > proper

> > > antra.

> > >

> > > Yes, here as Anup ji mentioned a slight change in time will

cause delay

> > due

> > > to Guru and Sa and also due to Ve to Sun distance and Ju in libra

etc

> etc

> > so

> > > in short a lot of delay if the time is a few mins before 8:56.

> > >

> > > With 8:56 only Guru is in libra so that can cause moderate

delay. So

> delay

> > > is about 24 years. This is given in some mail.

> > >

> > > So that time 3rd sector of Sun is running so after that Moon

antra

> starts

> > > and Moon is in House D with 5 bindus. So it is eager to give

timing of

> > > event.

> > >

> > > So moon antra gave marriage.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > [

> <%40>

> > <%40> ] On Behalf

Of Anup. M

> > > Friday July 24, 2009 9:24 AM

> > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > Re: Re: Timing for marriage

> > >

> > > Dear Hussein ji and Prabha ji and group,

> > >

> > > First if we change the time merely by 3 minutes,Sa causes full

> > > delay In navamsa and lagna becomes vargottam.So correct time is

> > > quite Important in such charts besides more events.

> > >

> > > Considering the TOB as given by Hussein ji,there is Ju delay

only.

> > >

> > > The delay in this chart can also be due to Sun Ve distance,Ju in

libra,

> > > Sa (retro),Ma and Ra aspect on Ve in navamsa,Ju as 6th lord

aspecting

> > > Ma,Me.These are relative factors besides Ju delay.So these all things

> > > should be kept in mind while calculating delay.

> > >

> > > Blessings in this chart are from moon and sun (in navamsa) only.

> > > Lords involved are Me and Mars.Both are in aspect of Ju and

blessings

> > > are affected.

> > >

> > > FK,RK and Me as karakansha are all spoiled due to malefic aspect

> > > of 6th lord Ju though these all are together.

> > >

> > > What can be overall effect of this?

> > >

> > > Comapring quality of being together of Karaka,RK,and karakansha

> > > versus " harsh " aspect of 6th lord Ju on these all,we

can make out some

> > > sense,wherein 9th lords from moon and sun are also covered in

this

> > > aspect.This will definitely temper the blessings.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Anup

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Hussein <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hussein <ahahosien@>

> > > Re: Timing for marriage

> > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > Friday, 24 July, 2009, 12:36 PM

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > >

> >

> > > oogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya "

<prabha.acharya@ ...> wrote:

> > > Dear Prabha ji

> > > Thanks for participating in this discussion. I want dear Krushna

ji,Ash

> > > ji,Anup ji help us in this discussion.

> > > If Mars and Mercury have lost their power by the aspect of

6th,then how

> > > blessing(being FK and FRK with each other as u told)can help for

> marriage

> > in

> > > the age of 22?

> > > I think we sould more discuss about that can aspect of

Jupiter(as 6th)

> on

> > > these planet reduce the strength of blessing?If yes,as being

Jupiter in

> > > Libra in D9 we will have a full delay marriage.

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Hossein

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Hosseinji

> > > > In this chart the FK and FRK are together. So considering

that

> blessings

> > > are there , after completing his education

> > > > [say Approx. 22 yrs] in the year 1960, he was running Ve

antra which

> is

> > SD

> > > to 6th lord Ju. Next Su is also SD to Ju. Then comes Mo antra

which is

> > > having 6 points in HoD and is eager to give marriage.

> > > > And Ma, Su, Me are being malefically aspected by Ju and

thereby losing

> > > strength. Ju is placed in 5th house in 12th from its own house.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Prabha

> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > >

> >

> > > oogroups.com> , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > >

> >

> > > hoogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya "

<prabha.acharya@ > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Prabha ji

> > > > > I Think When 6th lord is with 9th or 9th lord itself

is 6th or 9th

> is

> > in

> > > black hole then blessing will be weak,not by aspect.(Dear Ash

ji,Anup ji

> > and

> > > other members can correct me if I am wrong)

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Hossein

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Hosseinji

> > > > > > In the chart, Sa, Ma, Me, Su which are involved

in giving

> blessings

> > > are all aspected by 6th lord Ju. And Ju also is in Libra.

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Prabha

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > >

> >

> > > oogroups.com> , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hello Dear Krushna ji,Ash ji,Anup ji and

other group members

> > > > > > > I was working on a chart for timing of

marriage.

> > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > DOB:7-Sep-1938

> > > > > > > TOB:8.56 AM

> > > > > > > POB:18N06 80E30 , India

> > > > > > > He has got married on 28-Feb-1964

> > > > > > > Before I search for the quality of marriage

,at first I look for

> > > blessing and its strength,because a strong blessing will nullify

all bad

> > > effects and if It doesn't has any relation with delay causing

planet

> > > ,Marriage will be early.

> > > > > > > In this chart I didn't see a blessing

between 1st and 9th

> > lords,but

> > > I could see blessings from Moon sign lord and 9th lord from

it,and also

> > Sun

> > > sign lord and 9th lord from it.(Saturn and Mercury which are i

nav

> pancham

> > > in D9 and Sun and Mars which are with each other in D1.

> > > > > > > But If we look at the date of his

marriage,we will see that

> > because

> > > of Jupiter's delay which has ended on 20-Feb-62,he has got

married on

> Moon

> > > Antra .It means blessings have not worked here for reducing the

length

> of

> > > delay.(I think these blessings have nullified bad effects but

have not

> > > helped for reducing Jupiter's delay)

> > > > > > > I think it is because of that here Jupiter

as delay causing

> planet

> > > has sight on Sun,Mars and Mercury all in Leo,and also has sight

on Mars

> > and

> > > Mercury in D9,then blessing can't help for reducing delay here.

> > > > > > > Please give your idea about my analysis

about this chart.

> > > > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > > > Hossein

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local

> > > <http://in.rd./tagline_local_1/*http:/in.local./>

> > >

> >

>

July 26, 2009

, " Ash's Corner " <kas

wrote:

Dear Ash ji

Thank you very much for your good guides.I try to practice more and more.

Best Wishes

Hossein

>

> Dear Hussein ji,

>

> The essence of what Guru ji wrote in that mail, to my understanding is that

> the more problems are there, then marriage might take place in lowest power

> planet. Things like no children or multiple marriage or divorce etc.

>

> That is based on judgment and that will come with experience after solving

> many charts.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> On Behalf Of Hussein

> Saturday July 25, 2009 3:15 PM

>

> Re: Timing for marriage

>

> <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ "

> <kas@> wrote:

>

> Dear Ash ji

> Thank you for your good answer.

> I think I have another problem for quality of marriage(for each chart)

> as Guru ji has told in lessons,when quality of marriage is bad,It will

> happen in the sub of 6th or planet with low point.

> In lesson 10 Guru ji has told:

> " These are the main factors and the general laws that contribute to a happy

> married life. We have a total of 15 general laws. If we give 10 points for

> each law that proves to be true out of those 15 and come up with a total of

> 60 points or more, we can say that the married life will be a satisfactory

> one. The more points we come up with out of a total of 150 points, the

> happier the marriage will be. "

> Should we do this for all charts?If we want to give 10 pts for each of 15

> laws that guru ji has told it will be difficult.For example in a law(law 7)

> we have :

> " If any planet gets more points due to the aspect of the sixth lord, then

> the strength of the planet for a happy marriage should be considered,

> thereby deleting the points. "

> how can we apply this for a chart and select between 0 to 15 for the chart?

> How can we say that the marriage is happy or unhappy with confidence? Yes

> sometimes we have strong blessings and that is different,but in many charts

> it's difficult to say that marriage is happy or unhappy.assume in a chart

> relations are not good.7th house in WS has good points.FK has good position

> but RK has not.HOD has good position but LOE has not.I mean good and bad

> with each other,how can we judge it.

> I hope I could say my problem clearly .Waiting your good answers.

> Best Wishes

> Hossein

>

> >

> > Dear Hussein ji,

> >

> > The main theme is that Guru itself is causing delay. Guru is the 9th lord

> > so it cannot check its own delay. Therefore marriage happened after 24th

> > year.

> >

> > I hope its clear.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> <%40>

> > [

> <%40> ] On Behalf Of Hussein

> > Saturday July 25, 2009 2:05 AM

> >

> <%40>

> > Re: Timing for marriage

> >

> <%40>

> > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ "

> > <kas@> wrote:

> > Dear Ash ji and Anup ji

> > Thanks for your answers.

> > As you advised me I referred to last messages and read them.In your

> message

> > about blessing you had told " If the blessing has any relation with 6th

> house

> > or 6th lord then it becomes weak " .Ok,can we say here that because of 6th

> > lord aspect on Ma,Me ,Su it has made blessings weak?

> > I checked 1st AV points and there is just 27 pts.Means the native is not

> > stubborn. I also checked the 5th house pts in WS and saw these are not

> very

> > good.

> > Here is WS :

> > Bindus 3 6 3 5 7 6 5

> > Hse SAV Pt Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa

> > 1 27 14 18 13 7 25 13 12

> > 2 30 14 12 22 12 15 7 17

> > 3 31 5 5 0 12 20 12 9

> > 4 32 2 16 3 13 18 17 13

> > 5 21 11 16 12 0 15 5 8

> > 6 30 18 6 16 17 21 12 17

> > 7 20 5 16 5 13 21 2- 17

> > 8 29 5 12 4 5 18 17 19

> > 9 39 13 15 18 17 19 19 22

> > 10 26 14 5 22 7 28 12 13

> > 11 30 6 20 11 6 12 10 22

> > 12 22 6 10 0 12 21 2- 18

> >

> > We all know that this native has got married on Mo antra and the marriage

> is

> > happy.So we can say two things here:

> > 1-Blessing is strong but because the aspect of Jupiter as delay causing

> > planet blessing can't cause an early marriage though marriage is happy.

> > 2-Blessings are not strong here because of the aspect of 6th lord on

> them.If

> > so,then because some bad factors in the chart(Venus distance from

> Sun-Being

> > Jupiter in Libra,...) marriage will be unhappy but as we know it has taken

> > place in the antra of Moon as a good planet in WS.then it may not be true

> .

> > From the above we can say that state 1 is correct,and aspect of 6th lord

> on

> > participating planet in blessing has not made them weak.

> > I tried to say my results here and please guide me if these are not right.

> > Best Wishes

> > Hossein

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Hussein ji,

> > >

> > > Here, Guru is in Libra. So the delay is due to Guru being in Libra. That

> > > way Guru is also natural mool karak. Delay is caused due to Guru itself.

> > >

> > > For blessing 9th lord must be involved and please understand Guru ji's

> > mail

> > > to you regarding blessing. When I was visiting Guru ji, I had written a

> > > mail on blessing after discussing with him from Guru ji's place to the

> > list.

> > > Also read that and try to grasp that concept.

> > >

> > > Keep this chart in mind, for future reference. As an when u solve more

> and

> > > more charts, this phenomenon will get clear.

> > >

> > > It is very difficult to quantify a blessing. In some cases, say if a

> > person

> > > is very egotistical and he will not listen to his father or Guru ji,

> then

> > in

> > > that case too the blessing will not work. The father/Guru ji is a well

> > > wisher but the native i.e. 1:9 relation ship the SELF is not listening

> to

> > > elders and therefore the Blessing will not work.

> > >

> > > So you must also understand the psychology and closely study the planets

> > > that are involved in blessing and study them from all angles.

> > >

> > > You should factor in the education of the native. If some communities

> > > despite there being no delay there can be a delay if the native is

> > studying.

> > > So check brilliancy, and dasha that run. If they favor education then

> that

> > > is sort of man made delay. Where in a person does not want to marry

> until

> > > he or she finishes the education.

> > >

> > > So such things also must be factored in. Also keen study of culture and

> > > environment and religion must be kept in mind. Now you are in Iran, so

> if

> > u

> > > are solving charts of your friends or people from your country then the

> > > culture, religious background, the family's values etc etc all such

> things

> > > must be taken into consideration. In a girls case what is deemed as a

> lot

> > > of delay or what is an early marriage must be studied keeping in mind

> > desh,

> > > kaal and Paatra principle.

> > >

> > > Hope that helps,

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > [

> <%40>

> > <%40> ] On Behalf Of Hussein

> > > Friday July 24, 2009 1:44 PM

> > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > Re: Timing for marriage

> > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ "

> > > <kas@> wrote:

> > > Dear Ash ji and Anup ji and Prabha ji

> > > Thanks for your good attention to my doubts in Astrology.

> > > Yes,as Ash ji has told,I think 8.56 has less delay .

> > > But still something is not clear for me.We have blessings as I told in

> > > recent message.(relative to Sun and Moon)Are these blessings strong or

> > > because of 6th lord aspect these are weak?If we consider it weak then

> the

> > > nature of marriage will be unhappy(as Anup ji told about some bad

> factors

> > > which available in the chart consists aspect of 6th on FK,RK,...) but as

> > we

> > > see ,It has taken place in antra of Moon which has 16 pts in WS and

> > doesn't

> > > have any relation with 6th lord.Please guide me about the strength of

> > these

> > > blessing.

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Hossein

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > I just got a chance to go though the chart. The marriage happened in

> > > proper

> > > > antra.

> > > >

> > > > Yes, here as Anup ji mentioned a slight change in time will cause

> delay

> > > due

> > > > to Guru and Sa and also due to Ve to Sun distance and Ju in libra etc

> > etc

> > > so

> > > > in short a lot of delay if the time is a few mins before 8:56.

> > > >

> > > > With 8:56 only Guru is in libra so that can cause moderate delay. So

> > delay

> > > > is about 24 years. This is given in some mail.

> > > >

> > > > So that time 3rd sector of Sun is running so after that Moon antra

> > starts

> > > > and Moon is in House D with 5 bindus. So it is eager to give timing of

> > > > event.

> > > >

> > > > So moon antra gave marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > [

> <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > <%40> ] On Behalf Of Anup.

> M

> > > > Friday July 24, 2009 9:24 AM

> > > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > Re: Re: Timing for marriage

> > > >

> > > > Dear Hussein ji and Prabha ji and group,

> > > >

> > > > First if we change the time merely by 3 minutes,Sa causes full

> > > > delay In navamsa and lagna becomes vargottam.So correct time is

> > > > quite Important in such charts besides more events.

> > > >

> > > > Considering the TOB as given by Hussein ji,there is Ju delay only.

> > > >

> > > > The delay in this chart can also be due to Sun Ve distance,Ju in

> libra,

> > > > Sa (retro),Ma and Ra aspect on Ve in navamsa,Ju as 6th lord aspecting

> > > > Ma,Me.These are relative factors besides Ju delay.So these all things

> > > > should be kept in mind while calculating delay.

> > > >

> > > > Blessings in this chart are from moon and sun (in navamsa) only.

> > > > Lords involved are Me and Mars.Both are in aspect of Ju and blessings

> > > > are affected.

> > > >

> > > > FK,RK and Me as karakansha are all spoiled due to malefic aspect

> > > > of 6th lord Ju though these all are together.

> > > >

> > > > What can be overall effect of this?

> > > >

> > > > Comapring quality of being together of Karaka,RK,and karakansha

> > > > versus " harsh " aspect of 6th lord Ju on these all,we can make out some

>

> > > > sense,wherein 9th lords from moon and sun are also covered in this

> > > > aspect.This will definitely temper the blessings.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Anup

> > > >

> > > > --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Hussein <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hussein <ahahosien@>

> > > > Re: Timing for marriage

> > > >

> <%40>

> > <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > Friday, 24 July, 2009, 12:36 PM

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > > > oogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@ ...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Prabha ji

> > > > Thanks for participating in this discussion. I want dear Krushna

> ji,Ash

> > > > ji,Anup ji help us in this discussion.

> > > > If Mars and Mercury have lost their power by the aspect of 6th,then

> how

> > > > blessing(being FK and FRK with each other as u told)can help for

> > marriage

> > > in

> > > > the age of 22?

> > > > I think we sould more discuss about that can aspect of Jupiter(as 6th)

> > on

> > > > these planet reduce the strength of blessing?If yes,as being Jupiter

> in

> > > > Libra in D9 we will have a full delay marriage.

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > > Hossein

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Hosseinji

> > > > > In this chart the FK and FRK are together. So considering that

> > blessings

> > > > are there , after completing his education

> > > > > [say Approx. 22 yrs] in the year 1960, he was running Ve antra which

> > is

> > > SD

> > > > to 6th lord Ju. Next Su is also SD to Ju. Then comes Mo antra which is

> > > > having 6 points in HoD and is eager to give marriage.

> > > > > And Ma, Su, Me are being malefically aspected by Ju and thereby

> losing

> > > > strength. Ju is placed in 5th house in 12th from its own house.

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Prabha

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > > > oogroups.com> , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > > > hoogroups.com> , " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya@ > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Prabha ji

> > > > > > I Think When 6th lord is with 9th or 9th lord itself is 6th or 9th

> > is

> > > in

> > > > black hole then blessing will be weak,not by aspect.(Dear Ash ji,Anup

> ji

> > > and

> > > > other members can correct me if I am wrong)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > > Hossein

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Hosseinji

> > > > > > > In the chart, Sa, Ma, Me, Su which are involved in giving

> > blessings

> > > > are all aspected by 6th lord Ju. And Ju also is in Libra.

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Prabha

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > > >

> > >

> >