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Dear Ash ji

It's interesting that my flight to the island canceled again because of a dusty

weather!!!

Now my analysis:

Male chart:

At first Ve as NK is 6th lord .Ju is in Libra(it is available in both charts).Me

as 2nd lord is in 9th house which is bad for 7th house.Ma as 7th lord and LOE is

under the effect of nodes.Mo is under the effect of nodes(when Mo and Ma are

under the effect of Ra-Ke it's bad for mind,more closer Ra worse its effect.Su

as LOD is with 6th lord Ve.Means SD for 6th lord.Now if we see WS for 7th,4

planets have under 12 pts,Ju is in Back Hole,and Su is SD for 6th lord.Simply we

ca recognize that the nature (quality) of marriage is bad though there is a

blessing between 1st and 9th which are in nav pancham.Ve being 6th lord and Sa

being dlay causing planet,show a weak blessing.We have both Sa and Ju delay

here.after ending Sa's delay(19 Jan 1997) Ju should hit 7th house and 7th lord

to nulify bad effects(please guide me about this and also tell me the number of

hits).They have married on Sa-Ra(why not Ma antra?).Ra represents Sa (low pts)

and Ju(which is in black hole).

Female chart:

LOD and LOE ,7th and 2nd lords are all under the effect of Sa(6th lord

here).Here we have again Sa and Ju delay .Again in her chart there is a

blessing but being under the effect of 6th lord,it's weak.Her Dasa for marriage

is Ju-Ve .Ve is NSD for 6th lord Sa and also has most power in WS.

Please guide me if I have any mistake.

Best Wishes

Hussein

>

> Dear Group,

>

> I came across these 2 charts of a married couple facing a lot of issues.

> The mail states that the husband is on the verge of a clinical depression.

> This is an excellent chart for study for those who are interested and want

> to practice.

>

> All the problems are linked to the wife of the native not getting along with

> the in-laws and the husband has tried for many years but in vain. The male

> native, loves his parents, has respect and wants to take good care of them.

> He wants to do his duty and his wife is not even behaving cordially with his

> parents. That is what is being said in the mail.

>

> The native is reaching a level of frustration where in he was asking

> regarding future of the marital relationship and the possibility of a

> divorce.

>

> The data is as follows.

>

> Husband :

>

> 11th January 1970

> 15:10

> 28N40

> 77E13

>

>

> Planet

> Degrees

>

> As

> 24 Ta 34

>

> Su

> 28 Sg 13

>

> Mo

> 17 Aq 51

>

> Ma

> 27 Aq 27

>

> MeR

> 2 Cp 47

>

> Ju

> 11 Li 5

>

> Ve

> 25 Sg 0

>

> Sa

> 9 Ar 34

>

> Ra

> 22 Aq 12

>

> Ke

> 22 Le 12

>

>

> Wife:

>

> 7th November 1970

> 3:35 AM

> 22N34

> 88E22

>

>

> Planet

> Degrees

>

> As

> 23 Vi 52

>

> Su

> 21 Li 32

>

> Mo

> 26 Cp 41

>

> Ma

> 18 Vi 32

>

> Me

> 27 Li 56

>

> Ju

> 23 Li 24

>

> VeR

> 27 Li 3

>

> SaR

> 26 Ar 59

>

> Ra

> 6 Aq 19

>

> Ke

> 6 Le 19

>

> Marriage Date : 25th November 2003.

>

>

> Both of them married after 32nd year. That means these charts can be

> categorized under delayed marriage (Timing).

>

> Now, this chart also shows less happiness regarding marriage (Quality).

>

> As far as Timing of Events goes, one can apply the laws and find out about

> the delay. As far as Happiness, one can check the relation to 6th lords,

> power in WS, relation of lagna and 7th lords, status of Karak, planets in

> 6th house etc etc.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

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Respected Ash ji and Group,

Here is my attempt to analyze these charts:

 

 

Wife:

Overall Happiness: Quality very poor.

Lagna and 7th: 1/1 Su and 7th: 2:12 Mo and 7th: 4:10 10 pts Ve and 7th: 1/1 Ma and 7th: 1/1 Only 10 pts.

Unhappiness in married life.

No blessings in Rasi or Navamsa.

6th lo is sa in the 8th hs aspecting the karak Hs A and 4 planets. Sa with less pts giving more power to A B and Hs C spoiling them more.

Nk and Fk is Ve and is aspected by 6th lord and is with Ju who is in Li. Therefore karak is spoiled.

 

Delay:

Full delay: Sa aspects LoA, LoB and LoC and Ju in Li.

Got married in Ve antra.

5 planets have high points in w.r.t. 2 planets have same high pts and Sa aspects Su and Mo in rasi so possiblility of more than one relationship or marriage.

Mo and Sa has low pts. Su, Me Ju and Ve are influenced by 6th lord in the karak hs.

That leaves Sa, Mo and Ma. Sa aspects Hs A, Mo aspects Hs C, and Ma aspects Hs B. That only leaves their samdharmi to give result.

Ve being samdharmi to Ju which is LoD gave the result but quality of the result could be very poor.

Lagna, Su and Mo are in 1/1 or 2/12 causing lot of disputes and conflicts in family life.

Might see a break or stretch in relationship during Sa/Sa as Sa is the 6th lord having low pts in w.r.t which is Feb/2010 to Feb/2013

 

 

Husband:

Overall indications from Lagna, Sun and Moon.

 

Overall Happiness: Good.

Lagna and 7th: 3/11 20 pts Mo and 7th: 5/9 30 pts Su and 7th: 4:10 10 pts Ve and 7th: 4:10 10 pts

Blessings from Rasi: 1:9 5/9 yes From Su: 1:9 3/11 From Mo: 1:9 5/9

He does respect his elders and gain their blessings in return.

Ju in Li and in 6th hs does reduce the quality of married life.

Ve to Su distance is 3:13 and Ve is 6th lord. Sa aspects both the luminaries in navamsa.

Lagna has 30 pts and 2 sectors of Su with Ra Mo and Ma in 10th hs. Would be a little egoistic and be mentally strained in relationship as Ra/Ma with Mo combination could bring depression.

 

 

Delay:

Sa delay and Ju in Li therefore full delay.

Only 3 planets are strong in the w.r.t Me, Ju and SU.

After the delay period is over comes Ra antra and is samdharmi to Ju gave the result but Ju is already spoiled so it gave the timing but the quality might not be so good.

 

According to the laws of divorce or extra marital relationship.

4 planets less than average in w.r.t for 7th hs.

Ve to Su distance is 3:13 and is 6th lord. Sa aspects both the luminaries in navamsa.

5th lord and 7th lo are in 2:12. Donot have friendly relationship.

2 planets have equal highest pts in w.r.t. indicating 2 marriages or extra marital relationship.

 

Conclusion:

He might not want arguments or cause disputes as he respects his elders and try to maintain peace as none of the pts are in 2:12 from Lagna Su and Mo and 7th lord and has blessings.

Sa is in 12th hs enhancing the result of 9th and 10th hs and also his 3-6-10 and 11 pts are good showing he is career oriented and has good income v/s expense. One sector of Me and 2 sectors of Sa. Average brilliant but intelligent to hold on to a decent job. Will have good earning with less effort.

Both husband and wife will have decent careers with good rewarding income.

Currently he is in Me antra which has good pts and might not give a break, then comes ketu which is samdharmi to Su which is LoD but also is samdharmi to Ve 6th lord so might give a break in relationship.

 

Thankl you,

-Bella.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

Ash's Corner

Monday, August 03, 2009 11:49 AM

Marital Happiness - Chart to Solve - Delayed Marriage and Lack of Marital Happiness

 

 

Dear Group,

 

I came across these 2 charts of a married couple facing a lot of issues. The mail states that the husband is on the verge of a clinical depression. This is an excellent chart for study for those who are interested and want to practice.

 

All the problems are linked to the wife of the native not getting along with the in-laws and the husband has tried for many years but in vain. The male native, loves his parents, has respect and wants to take good care of them. He wants to do his duty and his wife is not even behaving cordially with his parents. That is what is being said in the mail.

 

The native is reaching a level of frustration where in he was asking regarding future of the marital relationship and the possibility of a divorce.

 

The data is as follows.

 

Husband :

 

11th January 1970

15:10

28N40

77E13

 

 

 

 

 

Planet

 

Degrees

 

 

As

 

24 Ta 34

 

 

Su

 

28 Sg 13

 

 

Mo

 

17 Aq 51

 

 

Ma

 

27 Aq 27

 

 

MeR

 

2 Cp 47

 

 

Ju

 

11 Li 5

 

 

Ve

 

25 Sg 0

 

 

Sa

 

9 Ar 34

 

 

Ra

 

22 Aq 12

 

 

Ke

 

22 Le 12

 

 

Wife:

 

7th November 1970

3:35 AM

22N34

88E22

 

 

 

 

 

Planet

 

Degrees

 

 

As

 

23 Vi 52

 

 

Su

 

21 Li 32

 

 

Mo

 

26 Cp 41

 

 

Ma

 

18 Vi 32

 

 

Me

 

27 Li 56

 

 

Ju

 

23 Li 24

 

 

VeR

 

27 Li 3

 

 

SaR

 

26 Ar 59

 

 

Ra

 

6 Aq 19

 

 

Ke

 

6 Le 19

 

Marriage Date : 25th November 2003.

 

 

Both of them married after 32nd year. That means these charts can be categorized under delayed marriage (Timing).

 

Now, this chart also shows less happiness regarding marriage (Quality).

 

As far as Timing of Events goes, one can apply the laws and find out about the delay. As far as Happiness, one can check the relation to 6th lords, power in WS, relation of lagna and 7th lords, status of Karak, planets in 6th house etc etc.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

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Dear Bella ji and Guruvant Patel ji,

 

Very good attempts by both of you. You are slowly beginning to grasp the technique. Also add the intelligence portion that Guruvant Patel ji added in his

analysis to understand the intelligence of the natives.

 

Also for both you and Guruvant ji, kindly dig up the mail of Sa in 12th house

from the Archives. There was some

discussion on that and Guru ji had given some things

on that. That will help u all understand

the Husbands nature.

 

Also, for the wife, Sa is in 5th house so again

our laws for delayed marriage are there and yes both charts have Sa delay and

Ju in libra.

So keep these things in your mind so next time some chart like that

comes up you all can use your experience.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of BBp

Wednesday August 5, 2009

5:14 PM

To:

 

Re:

Marital Happiness - Chart to Solve - Delayed

Marriage and Lack of Marital Happiness

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected

Ash ji and Group,

 

 

Here

is my attempt to analyze these charts:

 

 

 

 

 

Wife:

Overall

Happiness: Quality very poor.

Lagna

and 7th: 1/1 Su and 7th:

2:12 Mo and 7th: 4:10 10

pts Ve and 7th: 1/1

Ma and 7th: 1/1 Only 10 pts.

Unhappiness

in married life.

No

blessings in Rasi or Navamsa.

6th

lo is sa in the 8th hs aspecting the karak Hs A and 4 planets.

Sa with less pts giving more power to A B and Hs C spoiling them more.

Nk

and Fk is Ve and is aspected by 6th lord and is with Ju who is in

Li. Therefore karak is spoiled.

 

Delay:

Full

delay: Sa aspects LoA, LoB and LoC and Ju in Li.

Got

married in Ve antra.

5

planets have high points in w.r.t. 2 planets have same high pts and Sa aspects

Su and Mo in rasi so possiblility of more than one relationship or marriage.

Mo

and Sa has low pts. Su, Me Ju and Ve are influenced by 6th lord in

the karak hs.

That

leaves Sa, Mo and Ma. Sa aspects Hs A, Mo aspects Hs C, and Ma aspects Hs B.

That only leaves their samdharmi to give result.

Ve

being samdharmi to Ju which is LoD gave the result but quality of the result

could be very poor.

Lagna,

Su and Mo are in 1/1 or 2/12 causing lot of disputes and conflicts in family

life.

Might

see a break or stretch in relationship during Sa/Sa as Sa is the 6th

lord having low pts in w.r.t which is Feb/2010 to Feb/2013

 

 

 

 

 

 

Husband:

 

 

Overall

indications from Lagna, Sun and Moon.

 

 

Overall

Happiness: Good.

Lagna

and 7th: 3/11 20 pts

Mo and 7th: 5/9 30

pts Su and 7th: 4:10 10

pts Ve and 7th:

4:10 10 pts

Blessings

from Rasi: 1:9 5/9 yes From

Su: 1:9 3/11 From Mo:

1:9 5/9

He

does respect his elders and gain their blessings in return.

Ju

in Li and in 6th hs does reduce the quality of married life.

Ve

to Su distance is 3:13 and Ve is 6th lord. Sa aspects both the

luminaries in navamsa.

Lagna

has 30 pts and 2 sectors of Su with Ra Mo and Ma in 10th hs. Would

be a little egoistic and be mentally strained in relationship as Ra/Ma with Mo

combination could bring depression.

 

 

 

Delay:

Sa

delay and Ju in Li therefore full delay.

Only

3 planets are strong in the w.r.t Me, Ju and SU.

After

the delay period is over comes Ra antra and is samdharmi to Ju gave the result

but Ju is already spoiled so it gave the timing but the quality might not be so

good.

 

According

to the laws of divorce or extra marital relationship.

4

planets less than average in w.r.t for 7th hs.

Ve

to Su distance is 3:13 and is 6th lord. Sa aspects both the

luminaries in navamsa.

5th

lord and 7th lo are in 2:12. Donot have friendly relationship.

2

planets have equal highest pts in w.r.t. indicating 2 marriages or extra

marital relationship.

 

Conclusion:

He

might not want arguments or cause disputes as he respects his elders and try to

maintain peace as none of the pts are in 2:12 from Lagna Su and Mo and 7th

lord and has blessings.

Sa

is in 12th hs enhancing the result of 9th and 10th

hs and also his 3-6-10 and 11 pts are good showing he is career oriented and

has good income v/s expense. One sector of Me and 2 sectors of Sa. Average

brilliant but intelligent to hold on to a decent job. Will have good

earning with less effort.

Both

husband and wife will have decent careers with good rewarding income.

Currently

he is in Me antra which has good pts and might not give a break, then comes

ketu which is samdharmi to Su which is LoD but also is samdharmi to Ve 6th

lord so might give a break in relationship.

 

Thankl you,

-Bella.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----

Original Message -----

 

 

Ash's Corner

 

 

 

 

 

 

Monday, August 03, 2009 11:49 AM

 

 

Marital Happiness - Chart to Solve

- Delayed Marriage and Lack of Marital Happiness

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Group,

I came across these 2 charts of a married couple facing a lot of

issues. The mail states that the husband is on the verge of a clinical

depression. This is an excellent chart for study for those who are

interested and want to practice.

All the problems are linked to the wife of the native not getting

along with the in-laws and the husband has tried for many years but in

vain. The male native, loves his parents, has respect and wants to take

good care of them. He wants to do his duty and his wife is not even

behaving cordially with his parents. That is what is being said in the

mail.

The native is reaching a level of frustration where in he was

asking regarding future of the marital relationship and the possibility of a

divorce.

The data is as follows.

Husband :

11th January 1970

15:10

28N40

77E13

 

 

 

Planet

 

 

Degrees

 

 

 

 

As

 

 

24 Ta 34

 

 

 

 

Su

 

 

28 Sg 13

 

 

 

 

Mo

 

 

17 Aq 51

 

 

 

 

Ma

 

 

27 Aq 27

 

 

 

 

MeR

 

 

2 Cp 47

 

 

 

 

Ju

 

 

11 Li 5

 

 

 

 

Ve

 

 

25 Sg 0

 

 

 

 

Sa

 

 

9 Ar 34

 

 

 

 

Ra

 

 

22 Aq 12

 

 

 

 

Ke

 

 

22 Le 12

 

 

 

Wife:

7th November 1970

3:35 AM

22N34

88E22

 

 

 

Planet

 

 

Degrees

 

 

 

 

As

 

 

23 Vi 52

 

 

 

 

Su

 

 

21 Li 32

 

 

 

 

Mo

 

 

26 Cp 41

 

 

 

 

Ma

 

 

18 Vi 32

 

 

 

 

Me

 

 

27 Li 56

 

 

 

 

Ju

 

 

23 Li 24

 

 

 

 

VeR

 

 

27 Li 3

 

 

 

 

SaR

 

 

26 Ar 59

 

 

 

 

Ra

 

 

6 Aq 19

 

 

 

 

Ke

 

 

6 Le 19

 

 

 

Marriage Date : 25th November 2003.

Both of them married after 32nd year. That means

these charts can be categorized under delayed marriage (Timing).

Now, this chart also shows less happiness regarding marriage

(Quality).

As far as Timing of Events goes, one can apply the laws and find

out about the delay. As far as Happiness, one can check the relation to 6th

lords, power in WS, relation of lagna and 7th lords, status of

Karak, planets in 6th house etc etc.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

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Thank you very much Ash ji, for your guidance.

 

I certainly am unaware of the result of Sa being in 12th hs. Therefore, I am

very much looking forward to find it through the archives.

 

Thanks again for your prompt reply and your helpful hints.

 

-Bella.

 

 

 

, " Ash's Corner " <kas

wrote:

>

> Dear Bella ji and Guruvant Patel ji,

>

> Very good attempts by both of you. You are slowly beginning to grasp the

> technique. Also add the intelligence portion that Guruvant Patel ji added

> in his analysis to understand the intelligence of the natives.

>

> Also for both you and Guruvant ji, kindly dig up the mail of Sa in 12th

> house from the Archives. There was some discussion on that and Guru ji had

> given some things on that. That will help u all understand the Husbands

> nature.

>

> Also, for the wife, Sa is in 5th house so again our laws for delayed

> marriage are there and yes both charts have Sa delay and Ju in libra. So

> keep these things in your mind so next time some chart like that comes up

> you all can use your experience.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

> On Behalf Of BBp

> Wednesday August 5, 2009 5:14 PM

>

> Re: Marital Happiness - Chart to Solve -

> Delayed Marriage and Lack of Marital Happiness

>

>

> Respected Ash ji and Group,

> Here is my attempt to analyze these charts:

>

> Wife:

> Overall Happiness: Quality very poor.

> Lagna and 7th: 1/1 Su and 7th: 2:12 Mo and 7th: 4:10 10 pts Ve

> and 7th: 1/1 Ma and 7th: 1/1 Only 10 pts.

> Unhappiness in married life.

> No blessings in Rasi or Navamsa.

> 6th lo is sa in the 8th hs aspecting the karak Hs A and 4 planets. Sa with

> less pts giving more power to A B and Hs C spoiling them more.

> Nk and Fk is Ve and is aspected by 6th lord and is with Ju who is in Li.

> Therefore karak is spoiled.

>

> Delay:

> Full delay: Sa aspects LoA, LoB and LoC and Ju in Li.

> Got married in Ve antra.

> 5 planets have high points in w.r.t. 2 planets have same high pts and Sa

> aspects Su and Mo in rasi so possiblility of more than one relationship or

> marriage.

> Mo and Sa has low pts. Su, Me Ju and Ve are influenced by 6th lord in the

> karak hs.

> That leaves Sa, Mo and Ma. Sa aspects Hs A, Mo aspects Hs C, and Ma aspects

> Hs B. That only leaves their samdharmi to give result.

> Ve being samdharmi to Ju which is LoD gave the result but quality of the

> result could be very poor.

> Lagna, Su and Mo are in 1/1 or 2/12 causing lot of disputes and conflicts in

> family life.

> Might see a break or stretch in relationship during Sa/Sa as Sa is the 6th

> lord having low pts in w.r.t which is Feb/2010 to Feb/2013

>

>

> Husband:

> Overall indications from Lagna, Sun and Moon.

> Overall Happiness: Good.

> Lagna and 7th: 3/11 20 pts Mo and 7th: 5/9 30 pts Su and

> 7th: 4:10 10 pts Ve and 7th: 4:10 10 pts

> Blessings from Rasi: 1:9 5/9 yes From Su: 1:9 3/11 From Mo:

> 1:9 5/9

> He does respect his elders and gain their blessings in return.

> Ju in Li and in 6th hs does reduce the quality of married life.

> Ve to Su distance is 3:13 and Ve is 6th lord. Sa aspects both the luminaries

> in navamsa.

> Lagna has 30 pts and 2 sectors of Su with Ra Mo and Ma in 10th hs. Would be

> a little egoistic and be mentally strained in relationship as Ra/Ma with Mo

> combination could bring depression.

>

> Delay:

> Sa delay and Ju in Li therefore full delay.

> Only 3 planets are strong in the w.r.t Me, Ju and SU.

> After the delay period is over comes Ra antra and is samdharmi to Ju gave

> the result but Ju is already spoiled so it gave the timing but the quality

> might not be so good.

>

> According to the laws of divorce or extra marital relationship.

> 4 planets less than average in w.r.t for 7th hs.

> Ve to Su distance is 3:13 and is 6th lord. Sa aspects both the luminaries in

> navamsa.

> 5th lord and 7th lo are in 2:12. Donot have friendly relationship.

> 2 planets have equal highest pts in w.r.t. indicating 2 marriages or extra

> marital relationship.

>

> Conclusion:

> He might not want arguments or cause disputes as he respects his elders and

> try to maintain peace as none of the pts are in 2:12 from Lagna Su and Mo

> and 7th lord and has blessings.

> Sa is in 12th hs enhancing the result of 9th and 10th hs and also his

> 3-6-10 and 11 pts are good showing he is career oriented and has good income

> v/s expense. One sector of Me and 2 sectors of Sa. Average brilliant but

> intelligent to hold on to a decent job. Will have good earning with less

> effort.

> Both husband and wife will have decent careers with good rewarding income.

> Currently he is in Me antra which has good pts and might not give a break,

> then comes ketu which is samdharmi to Su which is LoD but also is samdharmi

> to Ve 6th lord so might give a break in relationship.

>

> Thankl you,

> -Bella.

-

> Ash's Corner <Corner

>

> Monday, August 03, 2009 11:49 AM

> Marital Happiness - Chart to Solve -

> Delayed Marriage and Lack of Marital Happiness

>

>

> Dear Group,

> I came across these 2 charts of a married couple facing a lot of issues.

> The mail states that the husband is on the verge of a clinical depression.

> This is an excellent chart for study for those who are interested and want

> to practice.

> All the problems are linked to the wife of the native not getting along with

> the in-laws and the husband has tried for many years but in vain. The male

> native, loves his parents, has respect and wants to take good care of them.

> He wants to do his duty and his wife is not even behaving cordially with his

> parents. That is what is being said in the mail.

> The native is reaching a level of frustration where in he was asking

> regarding future of the marital relationship and the possibility of a

> divorce.

> The data is as follows.

> Husband :

> 11th January 1970

> 15:10

> 28N40

> 77E13

>

> Planet

> Degrees

>

> As

> 24 Ta 34

>

> Su

> 28 Sg 13

>

> Mo

> 17 Aq 51

>

> Ma

> 27 Aq 27

>

> MeR

> 2 Cp 47

>

> Ju

> 11 Li 5

>

> Ve

> 25 Sg 0

>

> Sa

> 9 Ar 34

>

> Ra

> 22 Aq 12

>

> Ke

> 22 Le 12

> Wife:

> 7th November 1970

> 3:35 AM

> 22N34

> 88E22

>

> Planet

> Degrees

>

> As

> 23 Vi 52

>

> Su

> 21 Li 32

>

> Mo

> 26 Cp 41

>

> Ma

> 18 Vi 32

>

> Me

> 27 Li 56

>

> Ju

> 23 Li 24

>

> VeR

> 27 Li 3

>

> SaR

> 26 Ar 59

>

> Ra

> 6 Aq 19

>

> Ke

> 6 Le 19

> Marriage Date : 25th November 2003.

> Both of them married after 32nd year. That means these charts can be

> categorized under delayed marriage (Timing).

> Now, this chart also shows less happiness regarding marriage (Quality).

> As far as Timing of Events goes, one can apply the laws and find out about

> the delay. As far as Happiness, one can check the relation to 6th lords,

> power in WS, relation of lagna and 7th lords, status of Karak, planets in

> 6th house etc etc.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

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