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Dear Ash ji and Group,

 

 

This goes inline as per antra of Ve.

Members can get the logic through KAS power.

 

In Satara seminar,a chart was given by guruji,members who

attended this seminar can find this chart bearing serial 27 in their paper

file provided during it.

 

I am giving below the details

 

29th Dec 1956

11.59am

Latitude 17N50 Longitude 78E50 IST

 

 

Lagna is 12 Pi 25.

 

She died on 15th Apr1991.

Moon antra was running in Venus mahadasa during this.

 

 

Moon is LoD and with highest points in 8th house...

So Moon can give death as such.

 

 

Here Ve is aspecting house A as MD lord.

 

I hope Guruji or you will guide us why venus mahadasa gave the death

irrespect of its aspect on house A?

 

 

( This is the third time i am trying to finish and post this mail but

everytime power failure or some other reason crept in between during

this preventing me to send this mail....? )

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

--- On Tue, 11/8/09, ashsam73 <kas wrote:

ashsam73 <kas Message 20801 - Date of Death Date: Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 8:25 PM

Dear Group,The date of death of the natives wife was on 30th Dec 1989.PDF = Ju-Ve (Ve has highest power).Daily points are in rising trend.28th Dec 1989 -> 19929th Dec 1989 -> 20530th Dec 1989 -> 205.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

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Dear Anup ji,

 

Why there is power failure when you are tying a message on Death of the native.

 

So many times, such things have happened to me and i have written about it

numerous times.

 

It is a sign a nimita. You have also begun to experience this phenemenon.

 

Keep your senses very aware of such factors and be in tune to the frequency.

 

In some ways, I hope that Guru ji does not answer that question.

 

Really, I was amazed when I read your mail and the experience that u faced for

sending this mail and that too on death.

 

Other mails on marriage or other like job etc come to the list at the touch of

the " Send " button.

 

What do the mails and particularly of the topic of Death is being blocked or

obstructions or subtle and in some cases like mine, not so subtle signs are

given !!!

 

Something to think about.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

, " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash ji and Group,

>  

>  

> This goes inline as per antra of Ve.

> Members can get the logic through KAS power.  

>  

> In Satara seminar,a chart was given by guruji,members who

> attended this seminar can find this chart bearing serial 27 in their paper

> file provided during it.

>  

> I am giving below the details 

>  

> 29th Dec 1956

> 11.59am

> Latitude 17N50  Longitude 78E50  IST 

>  

>  

> Lagna is 12 Pi 25.

>  

> She died on 15th Apr1991.

> Moon antra was running in Venus mahadasa during this.

>  

>  

> Moon is LoD and with highest points in 8th house.. 

> So Moon can give death as such.

>  

>  

> Here Ve is aspecting house A as MD lord.

>  

> I hope Guruji or you will guide us why venus mahadasa gave the death

> irrespect of its aspect on house A?

>  

>  

> ( This is the third time i am trying to finish and post this mail but 

> everytime power failure or some other reason crept in between during

> this preventing me to send this mail....? )

>  

>  

> Regards

> Anup

>  

>  

>

> --- On Tue, 11/8/09, ashsam73 <kas wrote:

>

>

> ashsam73 <kas

> Message 20801 - Date of Death

>

> Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 8:25 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Group,

>

> The date of death of the natives wife was on 30th Dec 1989.

>

> PDF = Ju-Ve (Ve has highest power).

>

> Daily points are in rising trend.

>

> 28th Dec 1989 -> 199

> 29th Dec 1989 -> 205

> 30th Dec 1989 -> 205.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Ash ji and Group,

 

 

It tookalmost 4 hours to finish this mail.

 

Every time something unfavourable was happening in between

like twice power failure,some phone call which was not desired from someone

asking to look at the chart of a patient,or something like that.

 

Yes you are right it is like niyati what is happening and stopping us

which is not timely for us.

 

Even Guruji while discussing this chart in seminar suddenly stopped

saying it is not the right time for this question which i asked again

in this mail.

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 13/8/09, ashsam73 <kas wrote:

ashsam73 <kas Re: Message 20801 - Date of Death-Chart 27 Date: Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 12:43 AM

Dear Anup ji,Why there is power failure when you are tying a message on Death of the native.So many times, such things have happened to me and i have written about it numerous times.It is a sign a nimita. You have also begun to experience this phenemenon. Keep your senses very aware of such factors and be in tune to the frequency.In some ways, I hope that Guru ji does not answer that question. Really, I was amazed when I read your mail and the experience that u faced for sending this mail and that too on death.Other mails on marriage or other like job etc come to the list at the touch of the "Send" button. What do the mails and particularly of the topic of Death is being blocked or obstructions or subtle and in some cases like mine, not so subtle signs are given !!!Something to think about.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. caastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Ash ji and Group,> > > This goes inline as per antra of Ve. > Members can get the logic through KAS power. > > In Satara seminar,a chart was given by guruji,members who > attended this seminar can find this chart bearing serial 27 in their paper > file provided during it.> > I am giving below the details > > 29th Dec 1956> 11.59am> Latitude 17N50 Longitude 78E50 IST > > > Lagna is 12 Pi 25.>

> She died on 15th Apr1991.> Moon antra was running in Venus mahadasa during this.> > > Moon is LoD and with highest points in 8th house.. > So Moon can give death as such.> > > Here Ve is aspecting house A as MD lord.> > I hope Guruji or you will guide us why venus mahadasa gave the death> irrespect of its aspect on house A?> > > ( This is the third time i am trying to finish and post this mail but > everytime power failure or some other reason crept in between during> this preventing me to send this mail....? )> > > Regards> Anup> > > > --- On Tue, 11/8/09, ashsam73 <kas wrote:> > > ashsam73 <kas> Subject:

[astrologyandtiming events] Message 20801 - Date of Death> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 8:25 PM> > > > > > > Dear Group,> > The date of death of the natives wife was on 30th Dec 1989.> > PDF = Ju-Ve (Ve has highest power).> > Daily points are in rising trend.> > 28th Dec 1989 -> 199> 29th Dec 1989 -> 205> 30th Dec 1989 -> 205.> > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Dear Anup ji,

 

All this is not a co-incidence. I did not know that Guru ji stopped discussing

this chart abruptly !!!

 

There must be something in this and u know Guru ji quite well and his powers as

u have experiened it when you have spent time with him. These things can't be

explained on list its just got to be experienced.

 

If Guru ji has stopped in the middle then it must be something HUGE going on his

his mind that he stopped himself. We as students must respect it. He knows

where we are in our learning curve and definitely the time has not come.

 

Yes, just to check 3rd lord MD and antra of highest point is enough. When the

time comes, and we become ready spiritually and when Guru ji is ready or knows

we are ready he can impart that knowledge or not, that is not our place to

judge.

 

When he stops saying something then it is FOR OUR OWN GOOD otherwise, dealing

with this topic will scare the hell out and by now u have realised the power of

this system.

 

There have been students that I know, who were making fantastic predictions,

which I have seen, but have left this system and have been advised as well not

to touch KAS, because, the native got very scared and that was spoiling the life

due to fear.

 

KAS is not meant for such people and particularly those who apply KAS on their

own charts. With half baked knowlede that can get a person very nervous.

 

Same way Prashna too, is probibited for one's own self to ask the question and

solve it by Guru ji. We must follow that ethics.

 

In any case, I am digressing but expressing my thoughts. For those who find it

of no use can ignore my post.

 

Sorry for that.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash ji and Group,

>  

>  

> It tookalmost 4 hours to finish this mail.

>  

> Every time something unfavourable was happening in between

> like twice power failure,some phone call which was not desired from someone

> asking to look at the chart of a patient,or something like that.

>  

> Yes you are right it is like niyati what is happening and stopping us

> which is not timely for us.

>  

> Even Guruji while discussing this chart in seminar suddenly stopped

> saying it is not the right time for this question which i asked again

> in this mail.

>  

>  

> Regards

> Anup

>  

>   

>  

>  

>  

>  

>

>

> --- On Thu, 13/8/09, ashsam73 <kas wrote:

>

>

> ashsam73 <kas

> Re: Message 20801 - Date of Death-Chart 27

>

> Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 12:43 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Anup ji,

>

> Why there is power failure when you are tying a message on Death of the

native.

>

> So many times, such things have happened to me and i have written about it

numerous times.

>

> It is a sign a nimita. You have also begun to experience this phenemenon.

>

> Keep your senses very aware of such factors and be in tune to the frequency..

>

> In some ways, I hope that Guru ji does not answer that question.

>

> Really, I was amazed when I read your mail and the experience that u faced for

sending this mail and that too on death.

>

> Other mails on marriage or other like job etc come to the list at the touch of

the " Send " button.

>

> What do the mails and particularly of the topic of Death is being blocked or

obstructions or subtle and in some cases like mine, not so subtle signs are

given !!!

>

> Something to think about.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash ji and Group,

> >  

> >  

> > This goes inline as per antra of Ve.

> > Members can get the logic through KAS power.  

> >  

> > In Satara seminar,a chart was given by guruji,members who

> > attended this seminar can find this chart bearing serial 27 in their paper

> > file provided during it.

> >  

> > I am giving below the details 

> >  

> > 29th Dec 1956

> > 11.59am

> > Latitude 17N50  Longitude 78E50  IST 

> >  

> >  

> > Lagna is 12 Pi 25.

> >  

> > She died on 15th Apr1991.

> > Moon antra was running in Venus mahadasa during this.

> >  

> >  

> > Moon is LoD and with highest points in 8th house.. 

> > So Moon can give death as such.

> >  

> >  

> > Here Ve is aspecting house A as MD lord.

> >  

> > I hope Guruji or you will guide us why venus mahadasa gave the death

> > irrespect of its aspect on house A?

> >  

> >  

> > ( This is the third time i am trying to finish and post this mail but 

> > everytime power failure or some other reason crept in between during

> > this preventing me to send this mail....? )

> >  

> >  

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >  

> >  

> >

> > --- On Tue, 11/8/09, ashsam73 <kas@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > ashsam73 <kas@>

> > [astrologyandtiming events] Message 20801 - Date of Death

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 8:25 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > The date of death of the natives wife was on 30th Dec 1989.

> >

> > PDF = Ju-Ve (Ve has highest power).

> >

> > Daily points are in rising trend.

> >

> > 28th Dec 1989 -> 199

> > 29th Dec 1989 -> 205

> > 30th Dec 1989 -> 205.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Looking for local information? Find it on Local http://in.local.

/

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Anup ji,

 

When I re-read my mails, I felt that those might have been a bit harsh or rude,

so please do not treat is as such. I think you know me quite well to understand

the passion behind these mails.

 

I am much younger than you in age so if you feel upset, please just smile and

pardon my immature behaviour at times :-)

 

Sorry if it made you feel bad or upset which was not my intension.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Anup ji,

>

> All this is not a co-incidence. I did not know that Guru ji stopped

discussing this chart abruptly !!!

>

> There must be something in this and u know Guru ji quite well and his powers

as u have experiened it when you have spent time with him. These things can't

be explained on list its just got to be experienced.

>

> If Guru ji has stopped in the middle then it must be something HUGE going on

his his mind that he stopped himself. We as students must respect it. He knows

where we are in our learning curve and definitely the time has not come.

>

> Yes, just to check 3rd lord MD and antra of highest point is enough. When the

time comes, and we become ready spiritually and when Guru ji is ready or knows

we are ready he can impart that knowledge or not, that is not our place to

judge.

>

> When he stops saying something then it is FOR OUR OWN GOOD otherwise, dealing

with this topic will scare the hell out and by now u have realised the power of

this system.

>

> There have been students that I know, who were making fantastic predictions,

which I have seen, but have left this system and have been advised as well not

to touch KAS, because, the native got very scared and that was spoiling the life

due to fear.

>

> KAS is not meant for such people and particularly those who apply KAS on their

own charts. With half baked knowlede that can get a person very nervous.

>

> Same way Prashna too, is probibited for one's own self to ask the question and

solve it by Guru ji. We must follow that ethics.

>

> In any case, I am digressing but expressing my thoughts. For those who find

it of no use can ignore my post.

>

> Sorry for that.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash ji and Group,

> >  

> >  

> > It tookalmost 4 hours to finish this mail.

> >  

> > Every time something unfavourable was happening in between

> > like twice power failure,some phone call which was not desired from someone

> > asking to look at the chart of a patient,or something like that.

> >  

> > Yes you are right it is like niyati what is happening and stopping us

> > which is not timely for us.

> >  

> > Even Guruji while discussing this chart in seminar suddenly stopped

> > saying it is not the right time for this question which i asked again

> > in this mail.

> >  

> >  

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >  

> >   

> >  

> >  

> >  

> >  

> >

> >

> > --- On Thu, 13/8/09, ashsam73 <kas@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > ashsam73 <kas@>

> > Re: Message 20801 - Date of Death-Chart

27

> >

> > Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 12:43 AM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Anup ji,

> >

> > Why there is power failure when you are tying a message on Death of the

native.

> >

> > So many times, such things have happened to me and i have written about it

numerous times.

> >

> > It is a sign a nimita. You have also begun to experience this phenemenon.

> >

> > Keep your senses very aware of such factors and be in tune to the

frequency..

> >

> > In some ways, I hope that Guru ji does not answer that question.

> >

> > Really, I was amazed when I read your mail and the experience that u faced

for sending this mail and that too on death.

> >

> > Other mails on marriage or other like job etc come to the list at the touch

of the " Send " button.

> >

> > What do the mails and particularly of the topic of Death is being blocked or

obstructions or subtle and in some cases like mine, not so subtle signs are

given !!!

> >

> > Something to think about.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " <dalh_1@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash ji and Group,

> > >  

> > >  

> > > This goes inline as per antra of Ve.

> > > Members can get the logic through KAS power.  

> > >  

> > > In Satara seminar,a chart was given by guruji,members who

> > > attended this seminar can find this chart bearing serial 27 in their paper

> > > file provided during it.

> > >  

> > > I am giving below the details 

> > >  

> > > 29th Dec 1956

> > > 11.59am

> > > Latitude 17N50  Longitude 78E50  IST 

> > >  

> > >  

> > > Lagna is 12 Pi 25.

> > >  

> > > She died on 15th Apr1991.

> > > Moon antra was running in Venus mahadasa during this.

> > >  

> > >  

> > > Moon is LoD and with highest points in 8th house.. 

> > > So Moon can give death as such.

> > >  

> > >  

> > > Here Ve is aspecting house A as MD lord.

> > >  

> > > I hope Guruji or you will guide us why venus mahadasa gave the death

> > > irrespect of its aspect on house A?

> > >  

> > >  

> > > ( This is the third time i am trying to finish and post this mail but 

> > > everytime power failure or some other reason crept in between during

> > > this preventing me to send this mail....? )

> > >  

> > >  

> > > Regards

> > > Anup

> > >  

> > >  

> > >

> > > --- On Tue, 11/8/09, ashsam73 <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > ashsam73 <kas@>

> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Message 20801 - Date of Death

> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > > Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 8:25 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > The date of death of the natives wife was on 30th Dec 1989.

> > >

> > > PDF = Ju-Ve (Ve has highest power).

> > >

> > > Daily points are in rising trend.

> > >

> > > 28th Dec 1989 -> 199

> > > 29th Dec 1989 -> 205

> > > 30th Dec 1989 -> 205.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local http://in.local.

/

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check

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Dear Ash ji,

 

 

How can i think wrong for anything you say.

Please do not re-read the your mails now

 

Since i joined KAS,you are my ideal teacher irrespect of age factor.

 

Life is a process of learning,a combination of states we have to

go through.Where people fail is that they wish to elect a state and

remain in it.

 

 

KAS students are entirely different,of course !!

 

 

Thanks & Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 13/8/09, ashsam73 <kas wrote:

ashsam73 <kas Re: Message 20801 - Date of Death-Chart 27 Date: Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 7:46 PM

Dear Anup ji,When I re-read my mails, I felt that those might have been a bit harsh or rude, so please do not treat is as such. I think you know me quite well to understand the passion behind these mails.I am much younger than you in age so if you feel upset, please just smile and pardon my immature behaviour at times :-)Sorry if it made you feel bad or upset which was not my intension.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www..ashtro. caastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "ashsam73" <kas wrote:>> Dear Anup ji,> > All this is not a co-incidence. I did not know that Guru ji stopped discussing this chart abruptly

!!!> > There must be something in this and u know Guru ji quite well and his powers as u have experiened it when you have spent time with him. These things can't be explained on list its just got to be experienced.> > If Guru ji has stopped in the middle then it must be something HUGE going on his his mind that he stopped himself. We as students must respect it. He knows where we are in our learning curve and definitely the time has not come.> > Yes, just to check 3rd lord MD and antra of highest point is enough. When the time comes, and we become ready spiritually and when Guru ji is ready or knows we are ready he can impart that knowledge or not, that is not our place to judge.> > When he stops saying something then it is FOR OUR OWN GOOD otherwise, dealing with this topic will scare the hell out and by now u have realised the power of this system.> > There have been students that I

know, who were making fantastic predictions, which I have seen, but have left this system and have been advised as well not to touch KAS, because, the native got very scared and that was spoiling the life due to fear.> > KAS is not meant for such people and particularly those who apply KAS on their own charts. With half baked knowlede that can get a person very nervous.> > Same way Prashna too, is probibited for one's own self to ask the question and solve it by Guru ji. We must follow that ethics.> > In any case, I am digressing but expressing my thoughts. For those who find it of no use can ignore my post.> > Sorry for that.> > Cheers !!!> Ash> > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> >> > Dear Ash ji and Group,> > > > > > It tookalmost 4 hours to finish this mail.> > > > Every time something unfavourab le was happening in between > > like twice power failure,some phone call which was not desired from someone> > asking to look at the chart of a patient,or something like that.> > > > Yes you are right it is like niyati what is happening and stopping us> > which is not timely for us.> > > > Even Guruji while discussing this chart in seminar suddenly stopped> > saying it is not the right time for this question which i asked again> > in this mail.> > > > > > Regards> > Anup> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 13/8/09, ashsam73 <kas@> wrote:> > > > > > ashsam73 <kas@>> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Message 20801 - Date of Death-Chart 27> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 12:43 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,> > > > Why there is power failure when you are tying a message on Death of the native.> > > > So many times, such things have happened to me and i have written

about it numerous times.> > > > It is a sign a nimita. You have also begun to experience this phenemenon. > > > > Keep your senses very aware of such factors and be in tune to the frequency..> > > > In some ways, I hope that Guru ji does not answer that question. > > > > Really, I was amazed when I read your mail and the experience that u faced for sending this mail and that too on death.> > > > Other mails on marriage or other like job etc come to the list at the touch of the "Send" button. > > > > What do the mails and particularly of the topic of Death is being blocked or obstructions or subtle and in some cases like mine, not so subtle signs are given !!!> > > > Something to think about.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ash ji and Group,> > > > > > > > > This goes inline as per antra of Ve. > > > Members can get the logic through KAS power. > > > > > > In Satara seminar,a chart was given by guruji,members who > > > attended this seminar can find this chart bearing serial 27 in their paper > > > file provided during it.> > > > > > I am giving below the details > > > > > > 29th Dec 1956> > > 11.59am> > > Latitude 17N50 Longitude 78E50 IST > > > > > > > > > Lagna is 12

Pi 25.> > > > > > She died on 15th Apr1991.> > > Moon antra was running in Venus mahadasa during this.> > > > > > > > > Moon is LoD and with highest points in 8th house.. > > > So Moon can give death as such.> > > > > > > > > Here Ve is aspecting house A as MD lord.> > > > > > I hope Guruji or you will guide us why venus mahadasa gave the death> > > irrespect of its aspect on house A?> > > > > > > > > ( This is the third time i am trying to finish and post this mail but > > > everytime power failure or some other reason crept in between during> > > this preventing me to send this mail....? )> > > > >

> > > > Regards> > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/8/09, ashsam73 <kas@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <kas@>> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Message 20801 - Date of Death> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 8:25 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group,> > > > > > The date of death of the natives wife was on 30th Dec 1989.> > > > > > PDF = Ju-Ve (Ve has highest power).> > > > > > Daily points are in rising trend.> > > > > > 28th Dec 1989 -> 199> > > 29th

Dec 1989 -> 205> > > 30th Dec 1989 -> 205.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local http://in.local. /> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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