Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Dear Ash ji,Anup ji In recent chart I have given #msg 20840 Marriage of lady has taken place in the antra of Ju, a delay causing planet.How it's happen in 1st sector of it?Ju is not LOD or LOE .There is a lesson about delay causing planet,there I have studied that when the antra of a delay causing planet arrive,if it is LOD it can give result in 1st sector.Please guide me about it. Best Wishes Hussein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Dear Hussein ji, Good question. Guru is SD to LoE. Now Guru itself cannot give as it aspects House A. So, now here Guru is coming or being deputed by Mars who is LoE. Mars is also SD to Shani who is delay causing planet. Therefore Guru might become very eager to deliver the result. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ahahosien Monday August 24, 2009 9:18 AM To: Delay Causing Planet Antra Dear Ash ji,Anup ji In recent chart I have given #msg 20840 Marriage of lady has taken place in the antra of Ju, a delay causing planet.How it's happen in 1st sector of it?Ju is not LOD or LOE .There is a lesson about delay causing planet,there I have studied that when the antra of a delay causing planet arrive,if it is LOD it can give result in 1st sector.Please guide me about it. Best Wishes Hussein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: Dear Ash ji Thank you for your answer Then you mean because Jupiter is SD for LOE(Mars) ,the event has taken place in 1st sector of its antra.Am I right? Best Wishes Hussein > > Dear Hussein ji, > > Good question. > > Guru is SD to LoE. Now Guru itself cannot give as it aspects House A. So, > now here Guru is coming or being deputed by Mars who is LoE. Mars is also > SD to Shani who is delay causing planet. Therefore Guru might become very > eager to deliver the result. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of ahahosien > Monday August 24, 2009 9:18 AM > > Delay Causing Planet Antra > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji > In recent chart I have given #msg 20840 Marriage of lady has taken place in > the antra of Ju, a delay causing planet.How it's happen in 1st sector of > it?Ju is not LOD or LOE .There is a lesson about delay causing planet,there > I have studied that when the antra of a delay causing planet arrive,if it is > LOD it can give result in 1st sector.Please guide me about it. > Best Wishes > Hussein > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: Dear Ash ji Another my doubt is that here Guru just has 4 bindus.With 4 bindus can it produce delay? Best Wishes Hussein > > Dear Hussein ji, > > Good question. > > Guru is SD to LoE. Now Guru itself cannot give as it aspects House A. So, > now here Guru is coming or being deputed by Mars who is LoE. Mars is also > SD to Shani who is delay causing planet. Therefore Guru might become very > eager to deliver the result. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of ahahosien > Monday August 24, 2009 9:18 AM > > Delay Causing Planet Antra > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji > In recent chart I have given #msg 20840 Marriage of lady has taken place in > the antra of Ju, a delay causing planet.How it's happen in 1st sector of > it?Ju is not LOD or LOE .There is a lesson about delay causing planet,there > I have studied that when the antra of a delay causing planet arrive,if it is > LOD it can give result in 1st sector.Please guide me about it. > Best Wishes > Hussein > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Dear Hussein ji, Guru itself is aspecting House A so itself cannot give the result. When we check for Aspect, we do not see if the bindu is more or less. Yes, when we are talking of Timing of Event then, when a planet is with less than 4 bindus, then it will aspect with benefic bindu. So in this case, the power in 2nd house goes up as Guru is with less than 4 bindus. So here what has happened is that Guru aspected 2nd house, but itself is not capable to give the result, but since its power is good means it has power but itself cannot give result, but its SD to powerful LoE then it will be deputed by LoE to give the result i.e. timing of event. Now, Ma is SD to Sa who is delay causing planet and Ma is again very eager as its LoE, so now Guru will represent Mars so it will give the result very eagerly as Guru itself has good power, means that in the antra it wants to do good, but its not capable as it has aspect on house A. So, Ju is causing delay. Study the mail that Anup ji gave on the list regarding Delay of Guru and think over it with peaceful mind and take a few days to ponder over it to understand the essence of that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ahahosien Tuesday August 25, 2009 3:00 AM To: Re: Delay Causing Planet Antra , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: Dear Ash ji Another my doubt is that here Guru just has 4 bindus.With 4 bindus can it produce delay? Best Wishes Hussein > > Dear Hussein ji, > > Good question. > > Guru is SD to LoE. Now Guru itself cannot give as it aspects House A. So, > now here Guru is coming or being deputed by Mars who is LoE. Mars is also > SD to Shani who is delay causing planet. Therefore Guru might become very > eager to deliver the result. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of ahahosien > Monday August 24, 2009 9:18 AM > > Delay Causing Planet Antra > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji > In recent chart I have given #msg 20840 Marriage of lady has taken place in > the antra of Ju, a delay causing planet.How it's happen in 1st sector of > it?Ju is not LOD or LOE .There is a lesson about delay causing planet,there > I have studied that when the antra of a delay causing planet arrive,if it is > LOD it can give result in 1st sector.Please guide me about it. > Best Wishes > Hussein > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: Dear Ash ji I mean because Ju has sight on HOA and LOB it causes delay,means after ending Sa's delay we have Ju's delay as u told at previous messages.But my question is that Ju has just 4 bindus,then by aspecting HA and LOB how could it cause delay? As we see marriage has taken place in the antra of Ju.Means after Ju hits all bad effects in the chart.After that we have Ra sub,leave it and select Ju as antra. Waiting your more guides Best Wishes Hussein > > Dear Hussein ji, > > Guru itself is aspecting House A so itself cannot give the result. When we > check for Aspect, we do not see if the bindu is more or less. > > Yes, when we are talking of Timing of Event then, when a planet is with less > than 4 bindus, then it will aspect with benefic bindu. So in this case, the > power in 2nd house goes up as Guru is with less than 4 bindus. > > So here what has happened is that Guru aspected 2nd house, but itself is not > capable to give the result, but since its power is good means it has power > but itself cannot give result, but its SD to powerful LoE then it will be > deputed by LoE to give the result i.e. timing of event. > > Now, Ma is SD to Sa who is delay causing planet and Ma is again very eager > as its LoE, so now Guru will represent Mars so it will give the result very > eagerly as Guru itself has good power, means that in the antra it wants to > do good, but its not capable as it has aspect on house A. > > So, Ju is causing delay. > > Study the mail that Anup ji gave on the list regarding Delay of Guru and > think over it with peaceful mind and take a few days to ponder over it to > understand the essence of that. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of ahahosien > Tuesday August 25, 2009 3:00 AM > > Re: Delay Causing Planet Antra > > > > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> wrote: > Dear Ash ji > Another my doubt is that here Guru just has 4 bindus.With 4 bindus can it > produce delay? > Best Wishes > Hussein > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > Good question. > > > > Guru is SD to LoE. Now Guru itself cannot give as it aspects House A. So, > > now here Guru is coming or being deputed by Mars who is LoE. Mars is also > > SD to Shani who is delay causing planet. Therefore Guru might become very > > eager to deliver the result. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > <%40> > > [ > <%40> ] On Behalf Of ahahosien > > Monday August 24, 2009 9:18 AM > > > <%40> > > Delay Causing Planet Antra > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji > > In recent chart I have given #msg 20840 Marriage of lady has taken place > in > > the antra of Ju, a delay causing planet.How it's happen in 1st sector of > > it?Ju is not LOD or LOE .There is a lesson about delay causing > planet,there > > I have studied that when the antra of a delay causing planet arrive,if it > is > > LOD it can give result in 1st sector.Please guide me about it. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Respected Ashji " Jupiter is normally a benefic planet and when its natal bindu points are less than 4, it can never aspect malefically. Therefore, when its bindus are low, it will not contribute in any manner to a Jupiter delay. So always look first to see what Jupiter's natal bindu points are before checking further into a Jupiter delay. However, even Jupiter can aspect malefically, when its natal bindu score totals more than 4 points. This is when we start to look for a possible Jupiter delay. When this happens, Jupiter can cause a delay if it aspects Houses A and B, OR the lords of A and B or combinations of both, in the natal and/or the navamsa charts. With a Jupiter delay however, unlike a Saturn delay, House C is not required. " This a excerpt from Lesson 36 on Jupiter delay. Could you please clarify what this means. Does Ju delay occur only when Ju is with more than 4 points in its BAV or should we not consider it for finding Ju delay Thanks Prabha , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji, > > Guru itself is aspecting House A so itself cannot give the result. When we > check for Aspect, we do not see if the bindu is more or less. > > Yes, when we are talking of Timing of Event then, when a planet is with less > than 4 bindus, then it will aspect with benefic bindu. So in this case, the > power in 2nd house goes up as Guru is with less than 4 bindus. > > So here what has happened is that Guru aspected 2nd house, but itself is not > capable to give the result, but since its power is good means it has power > but itself cannot give result, but its SD to powerful LoE then it will be > deputed by LoE to give the result i.e. timing of event. > > Now, Ma is SD to Sa who is delay causing planet and Ma is again very eager > as its LoE, so now Guru will represent Mars so it will give the result very > eagerly as Guru itself has good power, means that in the antra it wants to > do good, but its not capable as it has aspect on house A. > > So, Ju is causing delay. > > Study the mail that Anup ji gave on the list regarding Delay of Guru and > think over it with peaceful mind and take a few days to ponder over it to > understand the essence of that. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of ahahosien > Tuesday August 25, 2009 3:00 AM > > Re: Delay Causing Planet Antra > > > > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> wrote: > Dear Ash ji > Another my doubt is that here Guru just has 4 bindus.With 4 bindus can it > produce delay? > Best Wishes > Hussein > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > Good question. > > > > Guru is SD to LoE. Now Guru itself cannot give as it aspects House A. So, > > now here Guru is coming or being deputed by Mars who is LoE. Mars is also > > SD to Shani who is delay causing planet. Therefore Guru might become very > > eager to deliver the result. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > <%40> > > [ > <%40> ] On Behalf Of ahahosien > > Monday August 24, 2009 9:18 AM > > > <%40> > > Delay Causing Planet Antra > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji > > In recent chart I have given #msg 20840 Marriage of lady has taken place > in > > the antra of Ju, a delay causing planet.How it's happen in 1st sector of > > it?Ju is not LOD or LOE .There is a lesson about delay causing > planet,there > > I have studied that when the antra of a delay causing planet arrive,if it > is > > LOD it can give result in 1st sector.Please guide me about it. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Dear Prabha ji, Also read the mail that Anup ji gave after discussing this with Guru ji. I do not have enough time at this moment to dig up the mail from the archives, but Anup ji had sent a detailed mail on delay caused by Guru as well. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of prabha.acharya Wednesday August 26, 2009 12:29 AM To: Subject: Re: Delay Causing Planet Antra Respected Ashji " Jupiter is normally a benefic planet and when its natal bindu points are less than 4, it can never aspect malefically. Therefore, when its bindus are low, it will not contribute in any manner to a Jupiter delay. So always look first to see what Jupiter's natal bindu points are before checking further into a Jupiter delay. However, even Jupiter can aspect malefically, when its natal bindu score totals more than 4 points. This is when we start to look for a possible Jupiter delay. When this happens, Jupiter can cause a delay if it aspects Houses A and B, OR the lords of A and B or combinations of both, in the natal and/or the navamsa charts. With a Jupiter delay however, unlike a Saturn delay, House C is not required. " This a excerpt from Lesson 36 on Jupiter delay. Could you please clarify what this means. Does Ju delay occur only when Ju is with more than 4 points in its BAV or should we not consider it for finding Ju delay Thanks Prabha , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji, > > Guru itself is aspecting House A so itself cannot give the result. When we > check for Aspect, we do not see if the bindu is more or less. > > Yes, when we are talking of Timing of Event then, when a planet is with less > than 4 bindus, then it will aspect with benefic bindu. So in this case, the > power in 2nd house goes up as Guru is with less than 4 bindus. > > So here what has happened is that Guru aspected 2nd house, but itself is not > capable to give the result, but since its power is good means it has power > but itself cannot give result, but its SD to powerful LoE then it will be > deputed by LoE to give the result i.e. timing of event. > > Now, Ma is SD to Sa who is delay causing planet and Ma is again very eager > as its LoE, so now Guru will represent Mars so it will give the result very > eagerly as Guru itself has good power, means that in the antra it wants to > do good, but its not capable as it has aspect on house A. > > So, Ju is causing delay. > > Study the mail that Anup ji gave on the list regarding Delay of Guru and > think over it with peaceful mind and take a few days to ponder over it to > understand the essence of that. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of ahahosien > Tuesday August 25, 2009 3:00 AM > > Re: Delay Causing Planet Antra > > > > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> wrote: > Dear Ash ji > Another my doubt is that here Guru just has 4 bindus.With 4 bindus can it > produce delay? > Best Wishes > Hussein > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > Good question. > > > > Guru is SD to LoE. Now Guru itself cannot give as it aspects House A. So, > > now here Guru is coming or being deputed by Mars who is LoE. Mars is also > > SD to Shani who is delay causing planet. Therefore Guru might become very > > eager to deliver the result. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > <%40> > > [ > <%40> ] On Behalf Of ahahosien > > Monday August 24, 2009 9:18 AM > > > <%40> > > Delay Causing Planet Antra > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji > > In recent chart I have given #msg 20840 Marriage of lady has taken place > in > > the antra of Ju, a delay causing planet.How it's happen in 1st sector of > > it?Ju is not LOD or LOE .There is a lesson about delay causing > planet,there > > I have studied that when the antra of a delay causing planet arrive,if it > is > > LOD it can give result in 1st sector.Please guide me about it. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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