Guidance required in finding the correct sector

October 5, 2009

Namaste,I. Can the LoE in the 6th lord's star still give the event?II. And can the experienced ones throw more light on finding the correct sector if the answer for the above is yes.

Delay causing factors:1. Saturn aspects Venus and both the luminaries in Navamsa.2. Venus is 47 deg from Sun.Hence, the native will be crossing over to 36, blessing-in-disguise as the Jupiter period having less than 12 points will be over by then.

Also this must be due to ample blessings (1,7 in 5/9) (Moon 1,7 in 5/9) (Sun 1,7 in 5/9) (Venus 1,7 in 3/11)Saturn aspects A having 3 points in E

No Zero in SAV and No Jupiter's delay.00:25:20 hrs 06-Nov-1973, 12N58 77E35 -5:30ISTThanks,Subbu

October 6, 2009

Dear Subbu Ganesh ji,

I am trying to clarify here your first part of the query.

Lord of house E for any event is always eager to give the event for

house B.So that is first part you must understand.No second thought

for this.Lord of D or E are secondary upachya lord and always eager.

Next try to observe the nature of 6th lord,why we say it is worst or

something like a damaging element in a chart.

Can any event be obstructed,denied or pushed to a certain delay

having the influence of 6th lord?

How 6th lord affect the quality of an event?

I hope you will get the answers of these questions yourself after

solving many charts not in haste but slowly.

Regards

Anup

--- On Tue, 6/10/09, Subbu Ganesh <getter19 wrote:

Subbu Ganesh <getter19 Guidance required in finding the correct sector"KAS" Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 3:54 AM

Namaste,I. Can the LoE in the 6th lord's star still give the event?II. And can the experienced ones throw more light on finding the correct sector if the answer for the above is yes.Delay causing factors:

1. Saturn aspects Venus and both the luminaries in Navamsa.2. Venus is 47 deg from Sun.

Hence, the native will be crossing over to 36, blessing-in- disguise as the Jupiter period having less than 12 points will be over by then.

Also this must be due to ample blessings (1,7 in 5/9) (Moon 1,7 in 5/9) (Sun 1,7 in 5/9) (Venus 1,7 in 3/11)Saturn aspects A having 3 points in ENo Zero in SAV and No Jupiter's delay.

00:25:20 hrs 06-Nov-1973, 12N58 77E35 -5:30ISTThanks,Subbu

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October 6, 2009

Namaste Subbuji,I. Guruji Krushna's FAQ under the heading 'Houses', answer to Q2 should clarify your doubts, the conclusion of which says: One needs to be able to differentiate between the date of an event and the quantum of the result.(i) DATE of Event: LoE can give the event irrespective of the sign/star.(ii) The QUANTUM of the result however depends on the points obtained by 6th lord. According to the answer for Q3 in the same page, note the sentences: "For getting the actual result of the sixth lord, treat the points of the sixth lord as 8 minus the points" and "All the above results (for 6th lord in different houses) are experienced when the sixth has more points. When it has less points, it will be reduced."If I rightly understand that you are analyzing for H7, 6th lord gets 12

points.Accordingly, reduce by 8 (12 ~ 8 = 4). Now, the 6th lord is weak.So, the damage caused by 6th lord in H7 (less marital happiness, disputes in partnerships, more quarrels) can be minimal. This fact is also supported by the blessings for 1/7.II. In this modern age, 36 is considered moderate delay for a man and full delay for a woman. If the native is male, sector 2 can give marriage. The learned/experienced ones may correct me... especially w.r.t the last point. Regards,Shekhar--- On Tue, 6/10/09, Subbu Ganesh <getter19 wrote:Subbu Ganesh <getter19 Guidance required in finding the correct sector"KAS" Tuesday, 6 October, 2009,

3:54 AM

Namaste,I. Can the LoE in the 6th lord's star still give the event?II. And can the experienced ones throw more light on finding the correct sector if the answer for the above is yes.

Delay causing factors:1. Saturn aspects Venus and both the luminaries in Navamsa.2. Venus is 47 deg from Sun.Hence, the native will be crossing over to 36, blessing-in- disguise as the Jupiter period having less than 12 points will be over by then.

Also this must be due to ample blessings (1,7 in 5/9) (Moon 1,7 in 5/9) (Sun 1,7 in 5/9) (Venus 1,7 in 3/11)Saturn aspects A having 3 points in E

No Zero in SAV and No Jupiter's delay.00:25:20 hrs 06-Nov-1973, 12N58 77E35 -5:30ISTThanks,Subbu

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October 7, 2009

Dear Shekharji,

I don't think I have completely understood your statement in I.ii.

But, I feel there is some misunderstanding. I don't think Krushnaji meant using

8 - WS points for sixth lord.

Please read the FAQ section again. It is more linked to points sixth lord gets

in BAV for the house it is placed in.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, Shekhar G Tover

<shekargthover wrote:

>

> Namaste Subbuji,

>

> I. Guruji Krushna's FAQ under the heading 'Houses', answer to Q2 should

clarify your doubts, the conclusion of which says: One needs to be able to

differentiate between the date of an event and the quantum of the result.

>

> (i) DATE of Event: LoE can give the event irrespective of the sign/star.

>

> (ii) The QUANTUM of the result however depends on the points obtained by 6th

lord. According to the answer for Q3 in the same page, note the sentences: " For

getting the actual result of the sixth lord, treat the points of the sixth lord

as 8 minus the points " and " All the above results (for 6th lord in different

houses) are experienced when the sixth has more points. When it has less points,

it will be reduced. "

>

> If I rightly understand that you are analyzing for H7, 6th lord gets 12

points.

> Accordingly, reduce by 8 (12 ~ 8 = 4). Now, the 6th lord is weak.

>

> So, the damage caused by 6th lord in H7 (less marital happiness, disputes in

partnerships, more quarrels) can be minimal. This fact is also supported by the

blessings for 1/7.

>

> II. In this modern age, 36 is considered moderate delay for a man and full

delay for a woman. If the native is male, sector 2 can give marriage.

>

> The learned/experienced ones may correct me... especially w.r.t the last

point.

>

> Regards,

> Shekhar

>

> --- On Tue, 6/10/09, Subbu Ganesh <getter19 wrote:

>

> Subbu Ganesh <getter19

> Guidance required in finding the correct

sector

> " KAS "

> Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 3:54 AM

>

> Namaste,

>

> I. Can the LoE in the 6th lord's star still give the event?

>

> II. And can the experienced ones throw more light on finding the correct

sector if the answer for the above is yes.

>

> Delay causing factors:

>

> 1. Saturn aspects Venus and both the luminaries in Navamsa.

>

> 2. Venus is 47 deg from Sun.

>

> Hence, the native will be crossing over to 36, blessing-in- disguise as the

Jupiter period having less than 12 points will be over by then.

>

> Also this must be due to ample blessings (1,7 in 5/9) (Moon 1,7 in 5/9) (Sun

1,7 in 5/9) (Venus 1,7 in 3/11)

> Saturn aspects A having 3 points in E

>

> No Zero in SAV and No Jupiter's delay.

>

> 00:25:20 hrs 06-Nov-1973, 12N58 77E35 -5:30IST

>

> Thanks,

> Subbu

>

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October 7, 2009

Dear Shekhar ji, Manu ji and Group.

6th lord is most malefic in the chart. However, if one takes a bit of time to

study the Worksheets in KAS program named H1, H2, H3... H12 you will see how

this has been incorporated in the KAS program.

For 2nd house, 6th house is House C. For 6th house its B. For 11th house, 6th

house is A, for 1st house 6th house is E and for 9th house results, the 6th

house is D.

Please keep this in mind as well.

Now, let us stick to Timing of Events and not go on Quality of Event portion as

this list we are mainly studying Timing of Events.

In VA or books the Timing of Events portion is not given clearly. Guru ji has

addressed this most difficult portion and the most unclear portion of VA using

KAS.

Now for Quality of event and Guru ji has given us many hints.

When a natural malefic like Ma and Sa is in 6th house and its also the 6th lord

AND if its with more than 4 bindus, then in that case, we should reverse the

points so that the Aspect will become benefic BUT THIS IS FOR QUALITY and NOT

FOR TIMING OF EVENTS.

Therefore, when we are talking of TIMING OF EVENTS, we can stick to the lessons

and we should be ok.

As an when the understanding grows, one can start to integrate more and more

things without messing up the basics.

Please try to understand what I am saying, otherwise, there is a chance that the

basics will get all mixed up and that will definitely gret one confused.

I urge all to stick to the lessons as they are universal and applicable to all

charts and you can get more than 80% of result for Timing of Event. In due

course of time, the remaining 20% will also come but try to focus on getting the

80% right rather than focus on the remaining 20% and time and energy and

resources will be well spent and one will also get good confidence.

If you get stuck in the 20%, just note it down, save the file with notes in one

folder and move on. You can re-address that at a later time, once your

knowledge and depth in understanding of the system will grow. In most cases,

you will get the answer on your own as your knowledge will grow.

To summarize the query and sticking to the lesson.

1) Planet in the nakshatra of 6th lord becomes SD to the 6th lord. Therefore

treat it accordingly and the result will depend for the result of the house one

is studying. If one is studying the result of 9th house then that planet will

become SD to LoD for 9th as B. So like that.

2) Timing of event for marriage will also depend on considering the delay and

other factors as given in lesson. First one must judge IF THERE IS A MARRIAGE

PROMISED. If there is then, the type of marriage i.e. is its with less

happiness or good happiness or multiple relations etc etc. Thereafter one can

cautiously proceed to time the event. For happy marriage, it will become

straight forward to time the event. For cases where there is more complication,

more thought will have to be put in to judge the proper antra , sector and pdf,

keeping in mind, the customs and traditions, country, desh kaal paatra princple

in short.

3) Quantum and Quality of Event is a very different area and is not addressed on

this list as the official lessons are not given. This list is dedicated and

focussed on learning TIMING OF EVENTS portion only.

After reading Shekhar ji's response, it seems that Shekhar ji has studied the

lessons and is studying the archives keenly. Which is very good and Please keep

it up Sir.

The reason for my post is to keep everyone on track so that we can get the

Timing of Events portion and not get lost in finding the quantum and quality for

which there are just hints but no proper lesson. So to keep everyone on Track.

Please keep up the studies and ask the questions.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

, " Manu " <astro.manu wrote:

>

> Dear Shekharji,

>

> I don't think I have completely understood your statement in I.ii.

> But, I feel there is some misunderstanding. I don't think Krushnaji meant

using 8 - WS points for sixth lord.

>

> Please read the FAQ section again. It is more linked to points sixth lord gets

in BAV for the house it is placed in.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> , Shekhar G Tover

<shekargthover@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Subbuji,

> >

> > I. Guruji Krushna's FAQ under the heading 'Houses', answer to Q2 should

clarify your doubts, the conclusion of which says: One needs to be able to

differentiate between the date of an event and the quantum of the result.

> >

> > (i) DATE of Event: LoE can give the event irrespective of the sign/star.

> >

> > (ii) The QUANTUM of the result however depends on the points obtained by 6th

lord. According to the answer for Q3 in the same page, note the sentences: " For

getting the actual result of the sixth lord, treat the points of the sixth lord

as 8 minus the points " and " All the above results (for 6th lord in different

houses) are experienced when the sixth has more points. When it has less points,

it will be reduced. "

> >

> > If I rightly understand that you are analyzing for H7, 6th lord gets 12

points.

> > Accordingly, reduce by 8 (12 ~ 8 = 4). Now, the 6th lord is weak.

> >

> > So, the damage caused by 6th lord in H7 (less marital happiness, disputes in

partnerships, more quarrels) can be minimal. This fact is also supported by the

blessings for 1/7.

> >

> > II. In this modern age, 36 is considered moderate delay for a man and full

delay for a woman. If the native is male, sector 2 can give marriage.

> >

> > The learned/experienced ones may correct me... especially w.r.t the last

point.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Shekhar

> >

> > --- On Tue, 6/10/09, Subbu Ganesh <getter19@> wrote:

> >

> > Subbu Ganesh <getter19@>

> > Guidance required in finding the correct

sector

> > " KAS "

> > Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 3:54 AM

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > I. Can the LoE in the 6th lord's star still give the event?

> >

> > II. And can the experienced ones throw more light on finding the correct

sector if the answer for the above is yes.

> >

> > Delay causing factors:

> >

> > 1. Saturn aspects Venus and both the luminaries in Navamsa.

> >

> > 2. Venus is 47 deg from Sun.

> >

> > Hence, the native will be crossing over to 36, blessing-in- disguise as the

Jupiter period having less than 12 points will be over by then.

> >

> > Also this must be due to ample blessings (1,7 in 5/9) (Moon 1,7 in 5/9)

(Sun 1,7 in 5/9) (Venus 1,7 in 3/11)

> > Saturn aspects A having 3 points in E

> >

> > No Zero in SAV and No Jupiter's delay.

> >

> > 00:25:20 hrs 06-Nov-1973, 12N58 77E35 -5:30IST

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Subbu

> >

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> >

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October 7, 2009

Namaste Manuji,Thanks for your inputs. Of course, you are right--Guruji is referring to BAV and not WS points.Jup as 6th lord in H7 gets 5 BAV points and therefore 8-5=3, which is weak and therefore damage may be minimal.Regards,Shekhar--- On Wed, 7/10/09, Manu <astro.manu wrote:Manu <astro.manu Re: Guidance required in finding the correct sector Date: Wednesday, 7 October, 2009, 9:46 PM

Dear Shekharji,

I don't think I have completely understood your statement in I.ii.

But, I feel there is some misunderstanding. I don't think Krushnaji meant using 8 - WS points for sixth lord.

Please read the FAQ section again. It is more linked to points sixth lord gets in BAV for the house it is placed in.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, Shekhar G Tover <shekargthover@ ...> wrote:

>

> Namaste Subbuji,

>

> I. Guruji Krushna's FAQ under the heading 'Houses', answer to Q2 should clarify your doubts, the conclusion of which says: One needs to be able to differentiate between the date of an event and the quantum of the result.

>

> (i) DATE of Event: LoE can give the event irrespective of the sign/star.

>

> (ii) The QUANTUM of the result however depends on the points obtained by 6th lord. According to the answer for Q3 in the same page, note the sentences: "For getting the actual result of the sixth lord, treat the points of the sixth lord as 8 minus the points" and "All the above results (for 6th lord in different houses) are experienced when the sixth has more points. When it has less points, it will be reduced."

>

> If I rightly understand that you are analyzing for H7, 6th lord gets 12 points.

> Accordingly, reduce by 8 (12 ~ 8 = 4). Now, the 6th lord is weak.

>

> So, the damage caused by 6th lord in H7 (less marital happiness, disputes in partnerships, more quarrels) can be minimal. This fact is also supported by the blessings for 1/7.

>

> II. In this modern age, 36 is considered moderate delay for a man and full delay for a woman. If the native is male, sector 2 can give marriage.

>

> The learned/experienced ones may correct me... especially w.r.t the last point.

>

> Regards,

> Shekhar

>

> --- On Tue, 6/10/09, Subbu Ganesh <getter19@.. .> wrote:

>

> Subbu Ganesh <getter19@.. .>

> [astrologyandtiming events] Guidance required in finding the correct sector

> "KAS" <astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com>

> Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 3:54 AM

>

> Namaste,

>

> I. Can the LoE in the 6th lord's star still give the event?

>

> II. And can the experienced ones throw more light on finding the correct sector if the answer for the above is yes.

>

> Delay causing factors:

>

> 1. Saturn aspects Venus and both the luminaries in Navamsa.

>

> 2. Venus is 47 deg from Sun.

>

> Hence, the native will be crossing over to 36, blessing-in- disguise as the Jupiter period having less than 12 points will be over by then.

>

> Also this must be due to ample blessings (1,7 in 5/9) (Moon 1,7 in 5/9) (Sun 1,7 in 5/9) (Venus 1,7 in 3/11)

> Saturn aspects A having 3 points in E

>

> No Zero in SAV and No Jupiter's delay.

>

> 00:25:20 hrs 06-Nov-1973, 12N58 77E35 -5:30IST

>

> Thanks,

> Subbu

>

> From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! http://in.. com/trynew

>

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October 7, 2009

Dear Shekharji,

You have mentioned:

>> Jup as 6th lord in H7 gets 5 BAV points and therefore 8-5=3, which is weak

and therefore damage may be minimal.

This also needs correction. Guruji has mentioned that: " Sixth lord will reduce

the results, even if it is with more points. " Effective BAV of 3 points will be

more malefic, isn't it?

Think about it, slowly things will fall in place. Don't hurry, also take into

account what Ash suggested. Slowly, things will be more clear.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, Shekhar G Tover

<shekargthover wrote:

>

> Namaste Manuji,

>

> Thanks for your inputs. Of course, you are right--Guruji is referring to BAV

and not WS points.

>

> Jup as 6th lord in H7 gets 5 BAV points and therefore 8-5=3, which is weak and

therefore damage may be minimal.

>

> Regards,

> Shekhar

>

> --- On Wed, 7/10/09, Manu <astro.manu wrote:

>

> Manu <astro.manu

> Re: Guidance required in finding the

correct sector

>

> Wednesday, 7 October, 2009, 9:46 PM

>

> Dear Shekharji,

>

> I don't think I have completely understood your statement in I.ii.

>

> But, I feel there is some misunderstanding. I don't think Krushnaji meant

using 8 - WS points for sixth lord.

>

> Please read the FAQ section again. It is more linked to points sixth lord gets

in BAV for the house it is placed in.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Manu

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, Shekhar G Tover

<shekargthover@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Namaste Subbuji,

>

> >

>

> > I. Guruji Krushna's FAQ under the heading 'Houses', answer to Q2 should

clarify your doubts, the conclusion of which says: One needs to be able to

differentiate between the date of an event and the quantum of the result.

>

> >

>

> > (i) DATE of Event: LoE can give the event irrespective of the sign/star.

>

> >

>

> > (ii) The QUANTUM of the result however depends on the points obtained by 6th

lord. According to the answer for Q3 in the same page, note the sentences: " For

getting the actual result of the sixth lord, treat the points of the sixth lord

as 8 minus the points " and " All the above results (for 6th lord in different

houses) are experienced when the sixth has more points. When it has less points,

it will be reduced. "

>

> >

>

> > If I rightly understand that you are analyzing for H7, 6th lord gets 12

points.

>

> > Accordingly, reduce by 8 (12 ~ 8 = 4). Now, the 6th lord is weak.

>

> >

>

> > So, the damage caused by 6th lord in H7 (less marital happiness, disputes in

partnerships, more quarrels) can be minimal. This fact is also supported by the

blessings for 1/7.

>

> >

>

> > II. In this modern age, 36 is considered moderate delay for a man and full

delay for a woman. If the native is male, sector 2 can give marriage.

>

> >

>

> > The learned/experienced ones may correct me... especially w.r.t the last

point.

>

> >

>

> > Regards,

>

> > Shekhar

>

> >

>

> > --- On Tue, 6/10/09, Subbu Ganesh <getter19@ .> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Subbu Ganesh <getter19@ .>

>

> > [astrologyandtiming events] Guidance required in finding the

correct sector

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> > " KAS " <astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com>

>

> > Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 3:54 AM

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>

> > II. And can the experienced ones throw more light on finding the correct

sector if the answer for the above is yes.

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>

> > Delay causing factors:

>

> >

>

> > 1. Saturn aspects Venus and both the luminaries in Navamsa.

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>

> > 2. Venus is 47 deg from Sun.

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> > Hence, the native will be crossing over to 36, blessing-in- disguise as the

Jupiter period having less than 12 points will be over by then.

>

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>

> > Also this must be due to ample blessings (1,7 in 5/9) (Moon 1,7 in 5/9)

(Sun 1,7 in 5/9) (Venus 1,7 in 3/11)

>

> > Saturn aspects A having 3 points in E

>

> >

>

> > No Zero in SAV and No Jupiter's delay.

>

> >

>

> > 00:25:20 hrs 06-Nov-1973, 12N58 77E35 -5:30IST

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> > Thanks,

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October 7, 2009

Namaste to All,

As the name of the group implies and suggested by Ashji, we shall focus on TIMING only.

Thanking you all for your inputs.Regards,

Subbu

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Manu <astro.manu wrote:

Dear Shekharji,

You have mentioned:

>> Jup as 6th lord in H7 gets 5 BAV points and therefore 8-5=3, which is weak and therefore damage may be minimal.

This also needs correction. Guruji has mentioned that: " Sixth lord will reduce the results, even if it is with more points. " Effective BAV of 3 points will be more malefic, isn't it?

Think about it, slowly things will fall in place. Don't hurry, also take into account what Ash suggested. Slowly, things will be more clear.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, Shekhar G Tover <shekargthover wrote:

>

> Namaste Manuji,

>

> Thanks for your inputs. Of course, you are right--Guruji is referring to BAV and not WS points.

>

> Jup as 6th lord in H7 gets 5 BAV points and therefore 8-5=3, which is weak and therefore damage may be minimal.

>

> Regards,

> Shekhar

>

> --- On Wed, 7/10/09, Manu <astro.manu wrote:

>

> Manu <astro.manu

> Re: Guidance required in finding the correct sector

>

> Wednesday, 7 October, 2009, 9:46 PM

>

> Dear Shekharji,

>

> I don't think I have completely understood your statement in I.ii.

>

> But, I feel there is some misunderstanding. I don't think Krushnaji meant using 8 - WS points for sixth lord.

>

> Please read the FAQ section again. It is more linked to points sixth lord gets in BAV for the house it is placed in.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Manu

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, Shekhar G Tover <shekargthover@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Namaste Subbuji,

>

> >

>

> > I. Guruji Krushna's FAQ under the heading 'Houses', answer to Q2 should clarify your doubts, the conclusion of which says: One needs to be able to differentiate between the date of an event and the quantum of the result.

>

> >

>

> > (i) DATE of Event: LoE can give the event irrespective of the sign/star.

>

> >

>

> > (ii) The QUANTUM of the result however depends on the points obtained by 6th lord. According to the answer for Q3 in the same page, note the sentences: " For getting the actual result of the sixth lord, treat the points of the sixth lord as 8 minus the points " and " All the above results (for 6th lord in different houses) are experienced when the sixth has more points. When it has less points, it will be reduced. "

>

> >

>

> > If I rightly understand that you are analyzing for H7, 6th lord gets 12 points.

>

> > Accordingly, reduce by 8 (12 ~ 8 = 4). Now, the 6th lord is weak.

>

> >

>

> > So, the damage caused by 6th lord in H7 (less marital happiness, disputes in partnerships, more quarrels) can be minimal. This fact is also supported by the blessings for 1/7.

>

> >

>

> > II. In this modern age, 36 is considered moderate delay for a man and full delay for a woman. If the native is male, sector 2 can give marriage.

>

> >

>

> > The learned/experienced ones may correct me... especially w.r.t the last point.

>

> >

>

> > Regards,

>

> > Shekhar

>

> >

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> > --- On Tue, 6/10/09, Subbu Ganesh <getter19@ .> wrote:

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> > Subbu Ganesh <getter19@ .>

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> > [astrologyandtiming events] Guidance required in finding the correct sector

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> > " KAS " <astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com>

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> > Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 3:54 AM

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> > II. And can the experienced ones throw more light on finding the correct sector if the answer for the above is yes.

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> > Delay causing factors:

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> > 1. Saturn aspects Venus and both the luminaries in Navamsa.

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> > Hence, the native will be crossing over to 36, blessing-in- disguise as the Jupiter period having less than 12 points will be over by then.

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October 7, 2009

Dear Shekhar ji,

Please do not reverse the points for 6th lord. Guru ji had given that ONLY in a

VERY SPECIFIC case where 6th lord was in 6th house and that too with more

points. That too for quality.

This cannot be applied everywhere so please check yourself before getting

confused.

For timing of event keep 6th lord points the way it is and things should be ok

for timing of event.

6th lord is most malefic due to lordship. Next we add the power component via

ashtakavarga. So if 6th lord which is malefic, gets more power (i.e. more than

4 bindus in SAV) then it gets more power to do more damage.

If 6th lord is giving power to some planet i.e. due to 4:10 then that power is

not good. In WS we are not taking that power.

Same way, if 6th lord is with less than 4 bindus and it aspects some planet then

its benefic dristi is not considered in the WS.

Just try to grasp this and read up explanatiosn and discussions around 6th lord.

There have been lots of nice exchanges where all such things have been

clarified.

Hope that guides.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

, Shekhar G Tover

<shekargthover wrote:

>

> Namaste Manuji,

>

> Thanks for your inputs. Of course, you are right--Guruji is referring to BAV

and not WS points.

>

> Jup as 6th lord in H7 gets 5 BAV points and therefore 8-5=3, which is weak and

therefore damage may be minimal.

>

> Regards,

> Shekhar

>

> --- On Wed, 7/10/09, Manu <astro.manu wrote:

>

> Manu <astro.manu

> Re: Guidance required in finding the

correct sector

>

> Wednesday, 7 October, 2009, 9:46 PM

>

> Dear Shekharji,

>

> I don't think I have completely understood your statement in I.ii.

>

> But, I feel there is some misunderstanding. I don't think Krushnaji meant

using 8 - WS points for sixth lord.

>

> Please read the FAQ section again. It is more linked to points sixth lord gets

in BAV for the house it is placed in.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Manu

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, Shekhar G Tover

<shekargthover@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Namaste Subbuji,

>

> >

>

> > I. Guruji Krushna's FAQ under the heading 'Houses', answer to Q2 should

clarify your doubts, the conclusion of which says: One needs to be able to

differentiate between the date of an event and the quantum of the result.

>

> >

>

> > (i) DATE of Event: LoE can give the event irrespective of the sign/star.

>

> >

>

> > (ii) The QUANTUM of the result however depends on the points obtained by 6th

lord. According to the answer for Q3 in the same page, note the sentences: " For

getting the actual result of the sixth lord, treat the points of the sixth lord

as 8 minus the points " and " All the above results (for 6th lord in different

houses) are experienced when the sixth has more points. When it has less points,

it will be reduced. "

>

> >

>

> > If I rightly understand that you are analyzing for H7, 6th lord gets 12

points.

>

> > Accordingly, reduce by 8 (12 ~ 8 = 4). Now, the 6th lord is weak.

>

> >

>

> > So, the damage caused by 6th lord in H7 (less marital happiness, disputes in

partnerships, more quarrels) can be minimal. This fact is also supported by the

blessings for 1/7.

>

> >

>

> > II. In this modern age, 36 is considered moderate delay for a man and full

delay for a woman. If the native is male, sector 2 can give marriage.

>

> >

>

> > The learned/experienced ones may correct me... especially w.r.t the last

point.

>

> >

>

> > Regards,

>

> > Shekhar

>

> >

>

> > --- On Tue, 6/10/09, Subbu Ganesh <getter19@ .> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Subbu Ganesh <getter19@ .>

>

> > [astrologyandtiming events] Guidance required in finding the

correct sector

>

> > " KAS " <astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com>

>

> > Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 3:54 AM

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> > Namaste,

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> >

>

> > I. Can the LoE in the 6th lord's star still give the event?

>

> >

>

> > II. And can the experienced ones throw more light on finding the correct

sector if the answer for the above is yes.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Delay causing factors:

>

> >

>

> > 1. Saturn aspects Venus and both the luminaries in Navamsa.

>

> >

>

> > 2. Venus is 47 deg from Sun.

>

> >

>

> > Hence, the native will be crossing over to 36, blessing-in- disguise as the

Jupiter period having less than 12 points will be over by then.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Also this must be due to ample blessings (1,7 in 5/9) (Moon 1,7 in 5/9)

(Sun 1,7 in 5/9) (Venus 1,7 in 3/11)

>

> > Saturn aspects A having 3 points in E

>

> >

>

> > No Zero in SAV and No Jupiter's delay.

>

> >

>

> > 00:25:20 hrs 06-Nov-1973, 12N58 77E35 -5:30IST

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> >

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> > Thanks,

>

> > Subbu

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> > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage!

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> >

>

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>

October 8, 2009

Dear Shekhar ji and Group,

Here is the mail by Guru ji regarding 6th lord.

/message/5264

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Shekhar ji,

>

> Please do not reverse the points for 6th lord. Guru ji had given that ONLY in

a VERY SPECIFIC case where 6th lord was in 6th house and that too with more

points. That too for quality.

>

> This cannot be applied everywhere so please check yourself before getting

confused.

>

> For timing of event keep 6th lord points the way it is and things should be ok

for timing of event.

>

> 6th lord is most malefic due to lordship. Next we add the power component via

ashtakavarga. So if 6th lord which is malefic, gets more power (i.e. more than

4 bindus in SAV) then it gets more power to do more damage.

>

> If 6th lord is giving power to some planet i.e. due to 4:10 then that power is

not good. In WS we are not taking that power.

>

> Same way, if 6th lord is with less than 4 bindus and it aspects some planet

then its benefic dristi is not considered in the WS.

>

> Just try to grasp this and read up explanatiosn and discussions around 6th

lord. There have been lots of nice exchanges where all such things have been

clarified.

>

> Hope that guides.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , Shekhar G Tover

<shekargthover@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Manuji,

> >

> > Thanks for your inputs. Of course, you are right--Guruji is referring to BAV

and not WS points.

> >

> > Jup as 6th lord in H7 gets 5 BAV points and therefore 8-5=3, which is weak

and therefore damage may be minimal.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Shekhar

> >

> > --- On Wed, 7/10/09, Manu <astro.manu@> wrote:

> >

> > Manu <astro.manu@>

> > Re: Guidance required in finding the

correct sector

> >

> > Wednesday, 7 October, 2009, 9:46 PM

> >

> > Dear Shekharji,

> >

> > I don't think I have completely understood your statement in I.ii.

> >

> > But, I feel there is some misunderstanding. I don't think Krushnaji meant

using 8 - WS points for sixth lord.

> >

> > Please read the FAQ section again. It is more linked to points sixth lord

gets in BAV for the house it is placed in.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> >

> > Manu

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, Shekhar G Tover

<shekargthover@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Namaste Subbuji,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I. Guruji Krushna's FAQ under the heading 'Houses', answer to Q2 should

clarify your doubts, the conclusion of which says: One needs to be able to

differentiate between the date of an event and the quantum of the result.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > (i) DATE of Event: LoE can give the event irrespective of the sign/star.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > (ii) The QUANTUM of the result however depends on the points obtained by

6th lord. According to the answer for Q3 in the same page, note the sentences:

" For getting the actual result of the sixth lord, treat the points of the sixth

lord as 8 minus the points " and " All the above results (for 6th lord in

different houses) are experienced when the sixth has more points. When it has

less points, it will be reduced. "

> >

> > >

> >

> > > If I rightly understand that you are analyzing for H7, 6th lord gets 12

points.

> >

> > > Accordingly, reduce by 8 (12 ~ 8 = 4). Now, the 6th lord is weak.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > So, the damage caused by 6th lord in H7 (less marital happiness, disputes

in partnerships, more quarrels) can be minimal. This fact is also supported by

the blessings for 1/7.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > II. In this modern age, 36 is considered moderate delay for a man and

full delay for a woman. If the native is male, sector 2 can give marriage.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The learned/experienced ones may correct me... especially w.r.t the last

point.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Regards,

> >

> > > Shekhar

> >

> > >

> >

> > > --- On Tue, 6/10/09, Subbu Ganesh <getter19@ .> wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Subbu Ganesh <getter19@ .>

> >

> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Guidance required in finding the

correct sector

> >

> > > " KAS " <astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com>

> >

> > > Tuesday, 6 October, 2009, 3:54 AM

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> >

> > > I. Can the LoE in the 6th lord's star still give the event?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > II. And can the experienced ones throw more light on finding the correct

sector if the answer for the above is yes.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Delay causing factors:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 1. Saturn aspects Venus and both the luminaries in Navamsa.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 2. Venus is 47 deg from Sun.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Hence, the native will be crossing over to 36, blessing-in- disguise as

the Jupiter period having less than 12 points will be over by then.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Also this must be due to ample blessings (1,7 in 5/9) (Moon 1,7 in 5/9)

(Sun 1,7 in 5/9) (Venus 1,7 in 3/11)

> >

> > > Saturn aspects A having 3 points in E

> >

> > >

> >

> > > No Zero in SAV and No Jupiter's delay.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 00:25:20 hrs 06-Nov-1973, 12N58 77E35 -5:30IST

> >

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> >

> > > Thanks,

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