Practice Chart

November 10, 2009

Dear Nikhlesh Ji and Respected group Members,

Did I misunderstand " affairs " ? I have taken it to mean affairs after marriage.

Re-reading Ash Ji's original post:

From what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to

marry. I am not clear from her posts that if she married the same guy or not.

Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.5) Why she had affair or

what are the yogs for that in this chart.

If the affair meaning affair before marriage then Rahu can give her marriage and

I believe Rahu is positioned to give her a love marriage. However, then on point

4)She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and asked if

she should go for divorce.

If Rahu gave her marriage then she has been married for two years +/-

considering marriage took place in third sector of Rahu antra. Then it would

seem that right after then she would have had to feel the marriage is not

working out for her.

I look forward to your/group thoughts and insight.

With Kind Regards,

Shalini

, " shalini " <shalini3004

wrote:

>

> Dear Nikhlesh Ji and Respected group Members,

>

> You are right that Rahu is a great contender for marriage as it acts more like

Venus who has low power for 7H and 12h, but high for 5h.

>

> Then when could her affair have began?

> For 5h as HB Jupiter is LoA, LoC in 12h from HB with 5 bindus. I believe when

an antra is in 12h from HB with more bindus it cannot give results for HB. Then

there is Saturn who is LoE in HB and has good/high points for 5h,12h,7h. We are

also thinking that her health problems begin from this antra due to

conception/childbirth. Look forward to your thoughts.

>

> With Kind Regards,

>

> Shalini

>

> , " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> >

> > 08.11.09

> > Sub: Female native, 24.05.1979, 04:10 am, 28N40; 77E13, Asc 15Ar55

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > Proceeding further on the same chart for real

practice, I wish to express the following;

> >

> > The Sa delay ends in May 2005 and at that time the Moon antra was in

operation which is strong enough to give the marriage event.

> >

> > What if Moon antra do not give the event?

> >

> > The next antra is that of Mars.

> >

> > Mars aspects house B (and is weak) so it should not give the result on its

own.

> >

> > Moon is SD to Mars. So Moon might depute Mars for the job which it somehow

could not accomplish.

> >

> > Mars would be eager to work for Moon but it does not have strength to

accomplish this mission. Mars has only 12 points for 7th house and so is not

strong (it is a boundary-line case).

> >

> > Mars also has affliction of Rahu and so it would not give the marriage

event.

> >

> > The Mars antra completes in Feb 2006. Next is Rahu antra.

> >

> > Ra antra:

> >

> > Rahu represent Ve & Su. It is more like Ve.

> > Rahu is LoE for 12th house. It would be eager to give the results of the

12th house (this house is also considered for marriage).

> > Rahu represents Su also which is LoE for 12th.

> >

> > Ve is aspected by Rahu and has low power for 7th house.

> >

> > One of the events told is that the lady is unhappy in marriage and even

asking if she could go for divorce. If this is the case then she might have got

married in a planet of lower strength.

> >

> > Ve is weak for 7th house and also for 12th house and Rahu represents Ve.

> >

> > Most probably she got marriage in Ra AD (Feb 06 to Aug 07). When marriage is

unhappy then it is usually performed in the sub period of the significator

planet which has low points. Here Ve is significator for marriage but has low

points for 7th house.

> >

> > So marriage in the antra of Rahu is possible if the Moon antra earlier is

missed.

> >

> > Ju antra : If suppose marriage could not take place in Rahu antra as well

then the next antra is of Ju.

> >

> > Here Ju is LoE and very strong for 7th house.

> > But it is said and also understood from the chart that there is marriage

unhappiness.

> >

> > Here Ju is of 30 points for 7th house so it will give the timing but it also

has mf of 1.4 which makes it extremely good for the quality of the event

happened in its AD.

> >

> > Marriage happiness is not seen. So Ju antra must not have given marriage.

> >

> > Sa antra : Next is Sa antra. Sa had been the delay causing planet and

therefore if the native is still unmarried when this antra came then it will

give marriage in the 1st sector itself ( Dec 08 to June 09).

> >

> > But again here Sa is strong for 7th house and even after taking mf into

account it indicates to give marital happiness which practically speaking is not

the case with this native.

> >

> > INERENCE INDICATED:

> >

> > Considering that this lady had a love marriage and taking into account the

unhappiness in her married life, the stronger indications are that she got

married in the antra of Ra (representing Ve) which means marrying in low power

planet and when the antra of Ju arrived next, some problems started cropping in

the married life.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> > On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:33:18 +0530 wrote

> >

> > Dear Nikhlesh ji and group,

> >

> > Yes the delay is technically over in may 2005.

> > sofollowing antras are Mars,Rahu,Ju and Sa antra.

> >

> > What do you think about these antras?

> > Mars aspect 7th house now next possible antras for

> >

> > 1] Marriage

> > 2] Conception

> > 3] Health issues etc ????

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

>

November 10, 2009

Dear Group,

By Affair I meant before marriage.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of shalini3004

Tuesday November 10, 2009

10:34 PM

To:

Subject:

Re: Practice chart

Dear Nikhlesh Ji and Respected group Members,

Did I misunderstand " affairs " ? I have taken it to mean affairs after

marriage.

Re-reading Ash Ji's original post:

From what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to

marry. I am not clear from her posts that if she married the same guy or not.

Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.5) Why she had affair

or what are the yogs for that in this chart.

If the affair meaning affair before marriage then Rahu can give her marriage

and I believe Rahu is positioned to give her a love marriage. However, then on

point 4)She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and

asked if she should go for divorce.

If Rahu gave her marriage then she has been married for two years +/-

considering marriage took place in third sector of Rahu antra. Then it would

seem that right after then she would have had to feel the marriage is not

working out for her.

I look forward to your/group thoughts and insight.

With Kind Regards,

Shalini

,

" shalini " <shalini3004 wrote:

>

> Dear Nikhlesh Ji and Respected group Members,

>

> You are right that Rahu is a great contender for marriage as it acts more

like Venus who has low power for 7H and 12h, but high for 5h.

>

> Then when could her affair have began?

> For 5h as HB Jupiter is LoA, LoC in 12h from HB with 5 bindus. I believe

when an antra is in 12h from HB with more bindus it cannot give results for HB.

Then there is Saturn who is LoE in HB and has good/high points for 5h,12h,7h.

We are also thinking that her health problems begin from this antra due to

conception/childbirth. Look forward to your thoughts.

>

> With Kind Regards,

>

> Shalini

>

> ,

" nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> >

> > 08.11.09

> > Sub: Female native, 24.05.1979, 04:10 am, 28N40; 77E13, Asc 15Ar55

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > Proceeding further on the same chart for real practice, I wish to

express the following;

> >

> > The Sa delay ends in May 2005 and at that time the Moon antra was in

operation which is strong enough to give the marriage event.

> >

> > What if Moon antra do not give the event?

> >

> > The next antra is that of Mars.

> >

> > Mars aspects house B (and is weak) so it should not give the result

on its own.

> >

> > Moon is SD to Mars. So Moon might depute Mars for the job which it

somehow could not accomplish.

> >

> > Mars would be eager to work for Moon but it does not have strength to

accomplish this mission. Mars has only 12 points for 7th house and so is not

strong (it is a boundary-line case).

> >

> > Mars also has affliction of Rahu and so it would not give the

marriage event.

> >

> > The Mars antra completes in Feb 2006. Next is Rahu antra.

> >

> > Ra antra:

> >

> > Rahu represent Ve & Su. It is more like Ve.

> > Rahu is LoE for 12th house. It would be eager to give the results of

the 12th house (this house is also considered for marriage).

> > Rahu represents Su also which is LoE for 12th.

> >

> > Ve is aspected by Rahu and has low power for 7th house.

> >

> > One of the events told is that the lady is unhappy in marriage and

even asking if she could go for divorce. If this is the case then she might have

got married in a planet of lower strength.

> >

> > Ve is weak for 7th house and also for 12th house and Rahu represents

Ve.

> >

> > Most probably she got marriage in Ra AD (Feb 06 to Aug 07). When

marriage is unhappy then it is usually performed in the sub period of the

significator planet which has low points. Here Ve is significator for marriage

but has low points for 7th house.

> >

> > So marriage in the antra of Rahu is possible if the Moon antra

earlier is missed.

> >

> > Ju antra : If suppose marriage could not take place in Rahu antra as

well then the next antra is of Ju.

> >

> > Here Ju is LoE and very strong for 7th house.

> > But it is said and also understood from the chart that there is

marriage unhappiness.

> >

> > Here Ju is of 30 points for 7th house so it will give the timing but

it also has mf of 1.4 which makes it extremely good for the quality of the

event happened in its AD.

> >

> > Marriage happiness is not seen. So Ju antra must not have given

marriage.

> >

> > Sa antra : Next is Sa antra. Sa had been the delay causing planet and

therefore if the native is still unmarried when this antra came then it will

give marriage in the 1st sector itself ( Dec 08 to June 09).

> >

> > But again here Sa is strong for 7th house and even after taking mf

into account it indicates to give marital happiness which practically speaking

is not the case with this native.

> >

> > INERENCE INDICATED:

> >

> > Considering that this lady had a love marriage and taking into

account the unhappiness in her married life, the stronger indications are that

she got married in the antra of Ra (representing Ve) which means marrying in

low power planet and when the antra of Ju arrived next, some problems started

cropping in the married life.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> > On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:33:18 +0530 wrote

> >

> > Dear Nikhlesh ji and group,

> >

> > Yes the delay is technically over in may 2005.

> > sofollowing antras are Mars,Rahu,Ju and Sa antra.

> >

> > What do you think about these antras?

> > Mars aspect 7th house now next possible antras for

> >

> > 1] Marriage

> > 2] Conception

> > 3] Health issues etc ????

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

>

November 10, 2009

Dear Ash Ji,

Thank You

Regards,

Shalini

, " Ash's Corner " <kas

wrote:

>

> Dear Group,

>

> By Affair I meant before marriage.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> On Behalf Of shalini3004

> Tuesday November 10, 2009 10:34 PM

>

> Re: Practice chart

>

> Dear Nikhlesh Ji and Respected group Members,

>

> Did I misunderstand " affairs " ? I have taken it to mean affairs after

> marriage.

>

> Re-reading Ash Ji's original post:

>

> From what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to

> marry. I am not clear from her posts that if she married the same guy or

> not. Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.5) Why she had

> affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart.

>

> If the affair meaning affair before marriage then Rahu can give her marriage

> and I believe Rahu is positioned to give her a love marriage. However, then

> on point 4)She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage

> and asked if she should go for divorce.

> If Rahu gave her marriage then she has been married for two years +/-

> considering marriage took place in third sector of Rahu antra. Then it would

> seem that right after then she would have had to feel the marriage is not

> working out for her.

> I look forward to your/group thoughts and insight.

>

> With Kind Regards,

>

> Shalini

>

> <%40> , " shalini "

> <shalini3004@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nikhlesh Ji and Respected group Members,

> >

> > You are right that Rahu is a great contender for marriage as it acts more

> like Venus who has low power for 7H and 12h, but high for 5h.

> >

> > Then when could her affair have began?

> > For 5h as HB Jupiter is LoA, LoC in 12h from HB with 5 bindus. I believe

> when an antra is in 12h from HB with more bindus it cannot give results for

> HB. Then there is Saturn who is LoE in HB and has good/high points for

> 5h,12h,7h. We are also thinking that her health problems begin from this

> antra due to conception/childbirth. Look forward to your thoughts.

> >

> > With Kind Regards,

> >

> > Shalini

> >

> <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur "

> <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > >

> > > 08.11.09

> > > Sub: Female native, 24.05.1979, 04:10 am, 28N40; 77E13, Asc 15Ar55

> > >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > Proceeding further on the same chart for real practice, I wish to

> express the following;

> > >

> > > The Sa delay ends in May 2005 and at that time the Moon antra was in

> operation which is strong enough to give the marriage event.

> > >

> > > What if Moon antra do not give the event?

> > >

> > > The next antra is that of Mars.

> > >

> > > Mars aspects house B (and is weak) so it should not give the result on

> its own.

> > >

> > > Moon is SD to Mars. So Moon might depute Mars for the job which it

> somehow could not accomplish.

> > >

> > > Mars would be eager to work for Moon but it does not have strength to

> accomplish this mission. Mars has only 12 points for 7th house and so is not

> strong (it is a boundary-line case).

> > >

> > > Mars also has affliction of Rahu and so it would not give the marriage

> event.

> > >

> > > The Mars antra completes in Feb 2006. Next is Rahu antra.

> > >

> > > Ra antra:

> > >

> > > Rahu represent Ve & Su. It is more like Ve.

> > > Rahu is LoE for 12th house. It would be eager to give the results of the

> 12th house (this house is also considered for marriage).

> > > Rahu represents Su also which is LoE for 12th.

> > >

> > > Ve is aspected by Rahu and has low power for 7th house.

> > >

> > > One of the events told is that the lady is unhappy in marriage and even

> asking if she could go for divorce. If this is the case then she might have

> got married in a planet of lower strength.

> > >

> > > Ve is weak for 7th house and also for 12th house and Rahu represents Ve.

>

> > >

> > > Most probably she got marriage in Ra AD (Feb 06 to Aug 07). When

> marriage is unhappy then it is usually performed in the sub period of the

> significator planet which has low points. Here Ve is significator for

> marriage but has low points for 7th house.

> > >

> > > So marriage in the antra of Rahu is possible if the Moon antra earlier

> is missed.

> > >

> > > Ju antra : If suppose marriage could not take place in Rahu antra as

> well then the next antra is of Ju.

> > >

> > > Here Ju is LoE and very strong for 7th house.

> > > But it is said and also understood from the chart that there is marriage

> unhappiness.

> > >

> > > Here Ju is of 30 points for 7th house so it will give the timing but it

> also has mf of 1.4 which makes it extremely good for the quality of the

> event happened in its AD.

> > >

> > > Marriage happiness is not seen. So Ju antra must not have given

> marriage.

> > >

> > > Sa antra : Next is Sa antra. Sa had been the delay causing planet and

> therefore if the native is still unmarried when this antra came then it will

> give marriage in the 1st sector itself ( Dec 08 to June 09).

> > >

> > > But again here Sa is strong for 7th house and even after taking mf into

> account it indicates to give marital happiness which practically speaking is

> not the case with this native.

> > >

> > > INERENCE INDICATED:

> > >

> > > Considering that this lady had a love marriage and taking into account

> the unhappiness in her married life, the stronger indications are that she

> got married in the antra of Ra (representing Ve) which means marrying in low

> power planet and when the antra of Ju arrived next, some problems started

> cropping in the married life.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Nikhlesh Mathur

> > >

> > > On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:33:18 +0530 wrote

> > >

> > > Dear Nikhlesh ji and group,

> > >

> > > Yes the delay is technically over in may 2005.

> > > sofollowing antras are Mars,Rahu,Ju and Sa antra.

> > >

> > > What do you think about these antras?

> > > Mars aspect 7th house now next possible antras for

> > >

> > > 1] Marriage

> > > 2] Conception

> > > 3] Health issues etc ????

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Anup

> > >

> >

>

November 11, 2009

Dear Ash ji,

"Anyone using KAS is using the

WS which is fixed for all 12

house of the chart and for all 12 house in all the 16 vargas,

which I repeat IS FIXED and CANNOT CHANGE."

Does it mean that apart from rashi ..navamsa .....all 16 vargas have to

be considered for timing?

Or 16 vargas for quantity,quality matters?

Please provide your insight

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

Ash's Corner wrote:

Dear Hussein ji and Group,

I picked this chart up from one

of the lists, therefore if

the motive was just to find the answer then that would defeat the

purpose. Anyone can find that if they really want to

find the answer. But that is not the intent

and that is why I made it clear right in the first mail.

On the contrary, I am more

interested in giving this exercise

to work on the Technique to find the Timing of Event using our system.

Those who really just want to find the answer

can easily dig up this data from the lists, that will not be difficult.

Yes, I have heard this comment

many times, that after an

event is known its easy to justify, and that is true, but only in those

cases

when the parameters can change. It is

not so with KAS. Once we cast the chart

the Worksheet is fixed and that cannot be changed. Therefore

the rules of the system are

fixed. This particular thing is not in

any system that I have known. Our WS is

fixed, now what’s left is the interpretation of the same.

Anyone using KAS is using the WS

which is fixed for all 12

house of the chart and for all 12 house in all the 16 vargas,

which I repeat IS FIXED and CANNOT CHANGE.

So there is a big difference.

Anyone with a scientific mind or a man/woman of science will

know the

power of the above and the gravity of the above statement.

Here is a quote from Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science

“Science

(from the Latin scientia,

meaning

"knowledge") is, in its broadest sense, any systematic

knowledge-base or prescriptive

practice that is capable of resulting in a prediction or predictable

type of

outcome. In this sense, science

may refer to a highly skilled technique or practice.”

Yes, the events match as per our

system, and we are using

repeatable laws that so many Jyotish who have a scientific approach and

are looking

for studying Jyotish as a Science as Guru ji

has

written in the Preface.

So Hussein ji

and group members, we

are trying to focus on the technique rather than the answer. If the

technique

is right then answers will come that is a given.

Even if members are coming close

to the answer, in my opinion

are doing very well. This knowledge

cannot be rushed. You cannot do PhD

portion by doing a crash course. A lot

of research has to be done to work on the theory that you work on in

your

Bachelors and then in the Masters you apply the same and then you can

get your

Doctorate.

Yes, the portion given by Guru ji

is very powerful knowledge. The value of

it, one can realize after spending years in solving many many

charts.

So, I repeat again, the aim of

this exercise is to work and

practice the technique. If the technique

is right the answers will come, using fixed rules and a WS and WS of

all vargas which will not change and are

fixed which implies

that the rules of the game are fixed and not a variable.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of Hussein

Tuesday November

10, 2009

12:33 PM

To:

Subject:

Re: Practice Chart

Dear Ash ji ,Anup ji

and members

Let at first thanks Ash ji and Anup ji for their good guides and kind

words

which encourages us for learning more and more.

Thanks Anup ji for his correction.Yes,we should consider the

spoiling of

Karaks.I didn't consider it in my analysis.Me as 6L is in 2nd

house,Means in

Karaksthan.I think we should add another point that Ve as FK is placed

in 12th

from 2nd,means 1st house.All these show that even with being Sa in Ve

nakshtra

,the delay will not be moderated.

The general status of chart is unhappy(I think it has discussed ).Sa

delay will

be ended in 21-22 May 2005.Aftre Mo antra we have Ma antra.Ma has 12

pts ,but I

think it can't give marriage as it is not SD for 6L or even is not the

lowest

point Planet for 7H in WS.After that we have Ra antra which more

represents

Ve,which is lowest point planet for 7H inWS.I think 3rd sector of Ra

antra will

give the results.Maybe between 7-Jun-2007 to 19-Jun-2007.

One member had asked about that why I told heart attach.When Su and Ma

are

related to 4th and 5th house by lordship or placement or being with

their

lords,It will be the possibility of heart attack.Also I think this

native will

have a bad accident in Mo MD and Ve AD .I explained it in my previous

message.

It may be some problems for childbirth because two malefics(Ra and Ma )

are

there ,Its FK(8th lord from 5th which is Ju) is in 4th(12th from 5th),

and also

5th lord is with 6th lord.

As Ash ji has told,it is not bad if our answer is wrong,we should not

fear that

if we give a wrong answer,it showes us a weak student.We should give

our

thoughts,our ideas.Jus by that means we can learn.My answer my be

wrong.It is not important for me if anyone think I am strong or weak

after

seeing my answer.THE ONLY IMPORTANT THING IS LEARNING COMPLETELY.

Best Wishes

Hussein

, "Anup. M"

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Devi singh ji,

> Â

> I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail

> Â

> Pleae note that ..

> MOON AND JU AREÂ NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI

> JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.

> Â

> Also we do notÂ consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.

> Â

> Regards

> AnupÂ

> Â

>

> --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput wrote:

>

> devisigh devisingh.rajput

> Re: Re: Practice Chart

>

> Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM

>

> Â

>

> Dear All;

>

> Some more thoughts to fix antra

>

> St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering

27.5-1.3=26. 3

year initial value

> Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa

and in

nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from

Ju to

reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good

>

> no zero in SAV so no addition in delay

> Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay

> St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay

> Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries

are

aspected so that will add delay

>

> Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events

>

> Mo-Mo

> Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event

>

> But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be

added

>

> Mo-Ma

> Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes

them

samdharmi

> Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi

> Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa

> Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.

>

> Mo-Ra

> Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and

cojoin Ju in

navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju

>

> so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice

still to

me

>

> Mo-Ju

> Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it

>

> will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system

> ------------ ------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> devisigh wrote:

> Dear Ash ji,

>

> Namaskar

>

> Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time.

>

> I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system.

> I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that

time also

indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope

for

comments from moderators for same.

> I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter,

Magritta and

all very nice considering old time and situation.

> hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and

finally to

absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can

be

clarified with sameÂ so better results can be obtained related to

timing

of events.

> Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there

own

approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS

>

> Please find below is thought process/approach:

> I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and

birth

details are correct no rectification required

>

> Quality of 7th house:

>

> checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is

RK,NRK

and LoE..seems not good for marriage.

> checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok

> checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok

> checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is

with St in

navamsa....spoils Ve more

> checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju

> checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is

LoC and

Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house.

> checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11..

12th is

HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th

is HC

> checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me,

Su......Me 6th

lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case

> checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju

is 6th lord

and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve.

> checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th

lord..... ju is

6th lord and me is 12th lord.....

> checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th

lord..... ju

is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....

> cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points

aspects to

HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB

> cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points

also LoC

aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HBBlessings,compatibi

lity,DBCE, strong

house,strong planets:

>

> as usual to be looked will look another timeFinding significator:

>

> checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will

bring

more pain

> looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st

is with

2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord

> looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and

su is

with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord

> looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is

with 5

points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE

> consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as

alresdy

left su and ve,left ke as already left ju

> looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already

left

ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise

>

> ------------ ------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote:

> Â

>

> Dear Devisingh ji,

> Â

> Very nice attempt.Â Please continue your chain of thought.

> Â

> Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage.Â Just

go

upto antra.

> Â

> So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the

best

possible period that u think can give the event.

> Â

> However, do write your thinking process.Â That will help one

figure

out where you are going away or your confusion.

> Â

> Well Done.

> Â

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> Â

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

[astrologyan

dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh

> Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart

> Â

>

> Dear All;

>

> My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only

>

> 7th house marriage:

> selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house

> Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house

> other planets aspects 7th house i left them

> Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i

left that

> Ju having highest points and also LoE

> now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK

and

natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.

> Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results

>

> Thinking for samdharmi of Ju

> in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi

> Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters

........still

this takes time for me to finalize

>

> ------------ ------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Â

>

> Dear Nikhlesh ji,

>

> You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree

of all

planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.

>

> Thanks Nikhlesh ji.

>

> The date should be May 24th.

>

> 24th May 1979

> 4:10 AM

> 28N40

> 77E13

>

> Sorry about that.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh

mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13

> > Dear Ash ji,

> >

> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person

born on

the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in

Aquarius

at this time.

> >

> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th

May.

> >

> > Please confirm.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote

> > >

> >

> > Add to

> > this.

> >

> > 6) When

> > can the native face health problems?

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> >

> > Ash's Corner@ [kas@]

> > Monday October 26, 2009

> > 12:18 AM

> > To:

> > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'

> > Practice Chart

> >

> > Dear

> > Group,

> >

> > This

> > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years

now.

> >

> > Here is

> > the chart

> >

> > 24th

> > Feb 1979

> >

> > 4:10 AM

> >

> > 28N40

> >

> > 77E13

> >

> > From

> > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she

wanted to

> > marry. I am not clear from her posts

> > that if she married the same guy or not.

> > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.

> >

> > If this

> > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.

> >

> > 1)

> > Marriage

> >

> > 2)

> > Child birth

> >

> > 3)

> > Marital Relations overall

> >

> > 4)

> > She has been complaining that relations are bad after

marriage and

> > asked if she should go for divorce.

> >

> > 5)

> > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this

chart.

> >

> > Planet

> >

> > Degrees

> >

> > As

> >

> > 15 Ar 55

> >

> > Su

> >

> > 9 Ta 31

> >

> > Mo

> >

> > 13 Ar 48

> >

> > Ma

> >

> > 13 Ar 8

> >

> > Me

> >

> > 2 Ta 15

> >

> > Ju

> >

> > 11 Cn 16

> >

> > Ve

> >

> > 14 Ar 30

> >

> > Sa

> >

> > 14 Le 35

> >

> > Ra

> >

> > 20 Le 59

> >

> > Ke

> >

> > 20 Aq 59

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> >

> Â

>

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

Homepage.

http://in./

>

November 11, 2009

Dear Hussein,

Good learning from your mails too nice posts.

"Ma has 12 pts ,but I think it can't give

marriage as it is not SD for 6L" or "even is not the lowest point

Planet

for 7H in WS"

Second part i can understand that quality is poor so lowest points

planet antra can be selected...however i think that is not Must rule.

Can you please say something more for first part? why you feel Ma out?

Ma has 12 points that is 1 reason but what about it is not SD for 6L?

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

Hussein wrote:

Dear Ash ji ,Anup ji and members

Let at first thanks Ash ji and Anup ji for their good guides and kind

words which encourages us for learning more and more.

Thanks Anup ji for his correction.Yes,we should consider the

spoiling of Karaks.I didn't consider it in my analysis.Me as 6L is in

2nd house,Means in Karaksthan.I think we should add another point that

Ve as FK is placed in 12th from 2nd,means 1st house.All these show that

even with being Sa in Ve nakshtra ,the delay will not be moderated.

The general status of chart is unhappy(I think it has discussed ).Sa

delay will be ended in 21-22 May 2005.Aftre Mo antra we have Ma

antra.Ma has 12 pts ,but I think it can't give marriage as it is not SD

for 6L or even is not the lowest point Planet for 7H in WS.After that

we have Ra antra which more represents Ve,which is lowest point planet

for 7H inWS.I think 3rd sector of Ra antra will give the results.Maybe

between 7-Jun-2007 to 19-Jun-2007.

One member had asked about that why I told heart attach.When Su and Ma

are related to 4th and 5th house by lordship or placement or being with

their lords,It will be the possibility of heart attack.Also I think

this native will have a bad accident in Mo MD and Ve AD .I explained it

in my previous message.

It may be some problems for childbirth because two malefics(Ra and Ma )

are there ,Its FK(8th lord from 5th which is Ju) is in 4th(12th from

5th), and also 5th lord is with 6th lord.

As Ash ji has told,it is not bad if our answer is wrong,we should not

fear that if we give a wrong answer,it showes us a weak student.We

should give our thoughts,our ideas.Jus by that means we can learn.My

answer my be wrong.It is not important for me if anyone think I am

strong or weak after seeing my answer.THE ONLY IMPORTANT THING IS

LEARNING COMPLETELY.

Best Wishes

Hussein

, "Anup. M"

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Devi singh ji,

> Â

> I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail

> Â

> Pleae note that ..

> MOON AND JU AREÂ NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI

> JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.

> Â

> Also we do notÂ consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.

> Â

> Regards

> AnupÂ

> Â

>

> --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput wrote:

>

> devisigh devisingh.rajput

> Re: Re: Practice Chart

>

> Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM

>

> Â

>

> Dear All;

>

> Some more thoughts to fix antra

>

> St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering

27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value

> Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa

and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no

help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good

>

> no zero in SAV so no addition in delay

> Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay

> St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay

> Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries

are aspected so that will add delay

>

> Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events

>

> Mo-Mo

> Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event

>

> But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be

added

>

> Mo-Ma

> Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes

them samdharmi

> Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi

> Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa

> Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.

>

> Mo-Ra

> Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and

cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju

>

> so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice

still to me

>

> Mo-Ju

> Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it

>

> will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system

> ------------ ------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> devisigh wrote:

> Dear Ash ji,

>

> Namaskar

>

> Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time.

>

> I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system.

> I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that

time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my

attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.

> I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter,

Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.

> hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and

finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and

vedic text can be clarified with sameÂ so better results can be

obtained related to timing of events.

> Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there

own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED

OTHERS

>

> Please find below is thought process/approach:

> I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and

birth details are correct no rectification required

>

> Quality of 7th house:

>

> checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is

RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage.

> checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok

> checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok

> checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is

with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more

> checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju

> checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is

LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house.

> checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11..

12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is

HB,11th is HC

> checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me,

Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case

> checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju

is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve.

> checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th

lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....

> checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th

lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....

> cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points

aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB

> cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points

also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HBBlessings,compatibi

lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets:

>

> as usual to be looked will look another timeFinding significator:

>

> checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will

bring more pain

> looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st

is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord

> looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and

su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord

> looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is

with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic

to HOE

> consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as

alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju

> looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already

left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to

finalise

>

> ------------ ------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote:

> Â

>

> Dear Devisingh ji,

> Â

> Very nice attempt.Â Please continue your chain of thought.

> Â

> Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage.Â Just

go upto antra.

> Â

> So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the

best possible period that u think can give the event.

> Â

> However, do write your thinking process.Â That will help one

figure out where you are going away or your confusion.

> Â

> Well Done.

> Â

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> Â

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

[astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of

devisigh

> Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart

> Â

>

> Dear All;

>

> My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only

>

> 7th house marriage:

> selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house

> Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house

> other planets aspects 7th house i left them

> Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i

left that

> Ju having highest points and also LoE

> now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK

and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.

> Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results

>

> Thinking for samdharmi of Ju

> in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi

> Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters

........still this takes time for me to finalize

>

> ------------ ------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Â

>

> Dear Nikhlesh ji,

>

> You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree

of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.

>

> Thanks Nikhlesh ji.

>

> The date should be May 24th.

>

> 24th May 1979

> 4:10 AM

> 28N40

> 77E13

>

> Sorry about that.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh

mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13

> > Dear Ash ji,

> >

> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person

born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should

be in Aquarius at this time.

> >

> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th

May.

> >

> > Please confirm.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh Mathur

> >

> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote

> > >

> >

> > Add to

> > this.

> >

> > 6) When

> > can the native face health problems?

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> >

> > Ash's Corner@ [kas@]

> > Monday October 26, 2009

> > 12:18 AM

> > To:

> > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'

> > Practice Chart

> >

> > Dear

> > Group,

> >

> > This

> > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years

now.

> >

> > Here is

> > the chart

> >

> > 24th

> > Feb 1979

> >

> > 4:10 AM

> >

> > 28N40

> >

> > 77E13

> >

> > From

> > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she

wanted to

> > marry. I am not clear from her posts

> > that if she married the same guy or not.

> > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.

> >

> > If this

> > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.

> >

> > 1)

> > Marriage

> >

> > 2)

> > Child birth

> >

> > 3)

> > Marital Relations overall

> >

> > 4)

> > She has been complaining that relations are bad after

marriage and

> > asked if she should go for divorce.

> >

> > 5)

> > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this

chart.

> >

> > Planet

> >

> > Degrees

> >

> > As

> >

> > 15 Ar 55

> >

> > Su

> >

> > 9 Ta 31

> >

> > Mo

> >

> > 13 Ar 48

> >

> > Ma

> >

> > 13 Ar 8

> >

> > Me

> >

> > 2 Ta 15

> >

> > Ju

> >

> > 11 Cn 16

> >

> > Ve

> >

> > 14 Ar 30

> >

> > Sa

> >

> > 14 Le 35

> >

> > Ra

> >

> > 20 Le 59

> >

> > Ke

> >

> > 20 Aq 59

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> >

> Â

>

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

Homepage. http://in./

>

November 11, 2009

Dear Members

DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13

In this chart:

1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself.

2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA.

3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra.

4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA.

5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by the

aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house.

Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married.

Thanks

Prabha

November 11, 2009

ï»¿

Dear Group,

This is what I have stated earilier about affairs:

Affair:

She could have had an affair in Mo antra as Mo being LoD with high pts in WS, in between Aug/04 and Jun/05.

I would also like to add is that Mo is LoD for the 7th Hs. Now from the 5th Hs, Sa is LoE and Ve is LoD. Mo Sa and Ve are in same navamsa making them SD. Therefore, I think affair is possible in Mo antra.

Thank you,

-Bella.

-

nikhlesh mathur

Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:08 AM

Re: Re: Practice chart

11.11.09Sub: Female native, 24.05.1979, 04:10 am, 28N40; 77E13, Asc 15Ar55Dear Shalini ji,The word â€˜Affairâ€™ usually means having a love affair before marriage. When it is after marriage it is normally called â€˜Extra-marital affairâ€™.So we are clear in this ladyâ€™s chart that she had an affair BEFORE marriage, which is also quite obvious from her chart.Please refer to KAS chapter no. 14 for a detailed study of such matter.1. When Venus is aspected by Saturn or by Rahu or is placed with them then a person gets opportunities to be acquainted with people of opposite sex as a result of attraction.2. When the lords of 4th 12th get linked to the lords of 2nd and 10th either by association or by sight, there definitely becomes a chance for love affair.Now observe her chart and see how the placements there comply with the above mentioned KAS laws.Then read further in this chapter............A little below it says that if Mars were to have association or sight of Saturn then such a love affair would result in heart-break. Reading further it also gives us some more principles about the reasons for discontinuance of relationships (zero points of Mars in certain houses).Now when affairs are indicated in a chart it does not necessarily mean having a love marriage. Sure, there is no breakage obvious in this chart. But of all things affairs can be one-sided also. If it is strongly one sided it might not result in marriage and neither at that time it will be technically called a â€˜Breakage of affairâ€™.So then we will have to look whether this native had a â€˜Love marriage or not. This is really difficult according to me because in these days, mostly in very traditional families in India the â€˜Love marriagesâ€™ are promoted and conducted as â€˜Arrangedâ€™ marriages (even with other casteâ€™s persons also). Advertisements for matrimonial is a testimony to this. So, one would not really know unless one hears straight from the horsesâ€™ mouth.However, there are permutations and combinations in a chart which show marriages being actually â€˜love marriagesâ€™ .Coming back to this chart I am unable to see breakage of affairs in her chart and at the same time it shows love affairs, so I thought that she must have had love marriage. Here frankly speaking I am not clear about the Blessings part. Incase of blessings the Father would agree for the marriage instantly and in absence of blessings may be the mission gets accomplished only during the antra of a very strong plus conducive planet. The information here is that her parents were searching for a groom for her. So may be some clue lies here. I am not being able to pick it up cleanly, but I am trying.My comments against her Rahu antra also said, as were your comments, that Rahu being Venus (i.e. representing it more) and Venus being weaker for 7th plus information to analyzers about her marital happiness......all these pointâ€™s marriage in Rahu antra.Can we theoretically focus on the opposite of it now, i.e. why Rahu antra cannot give marriage?Shalini ji, can you give us some clues to keep our minds ringing on this study? Regards,Nikhlesh MathurOn Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:00:36 +0530 wroteDear Nikhlesh Ji and Respected group Members,Did I misunderstand "affairs"? I have taken it to mean affairs after marriage. Re-reading Ash Ji's original post:From what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to marry. I am not clear from her posts that if she married the same guy or not. Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. If the affair meaning affair before marriage then Rahu can give her marriage and I believe Rahu is positioned to give her a love marriage. However, then on point 4)She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and asked if she should go for divorce. If Rahu gave her marriage then she has been married for two years +/- considering marriage took place in third sector of Rahu antra. Then it would seem that right after then she would have had to feel the marriage is not working out for her. I look forward to your/group thoughts and insight.With Kind Regards,Shalini , "shalini" wrote:>> Dear Nikhlesh Ji and Respected group Members,> > You are right that Rahu is a great contender for marriage as it acts more like Venus who has low power for 7H and 12h, but high for 5h. > > Then when could her affair have began? > For 5h as HB Jupiter is LoA, LoC in 12h from HB with 5 bindus. I believe when an antra is in 12h from HB with more bindus it cannot give results for HB. Then there is Saturn who is LoE in HB and has good/high points for 5h,12h,7h. We are also thinking that her health problems begin from this antra due to conception/childbirth. Look forward to your thoughts.With Kind Regards,Shalini

November 11, 2009

Dear Prabha ji,

Could be very well possible that the native is still unmarried maybe due to carreer related matters but again here is my thoughts if she is already married:

Karaks are spoilt and delay is lengthy therefore, even if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage, Ju followed by Ra seems to be very powerful.

As far as quality, Ju is spoilt but for the timing, Ju is LoE and also with more bindus sitting in Hs D making it very eager to give the result, which should be Jul 2007 - Nov 2008.

Thank you,

-Bella.

-

prabha

Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:33 AM

Practice Chart

Dear MembersDOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13In this chart:1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself. 2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA.3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra.4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA.5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house.Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married.ThanksPrabha

November 11, 2009

11th Nov 09

Female native, 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13

Dear Prabha ji and Group,

Let us re-summarize the query here for marriage.

It is clear that there was Sa delay which got completed in May 2005.

So far so good.........

Now if you say that the lady is unmarried yet i.e. as on Nov 2009 this lady has yet to marry, then it means that since May 2005 none of the ADâ€™s out of Moon, Mars, Rahu, Jupiter and Saturn were able to give her

marriage.

Let us re-study each antra;

-----------------------------

1. Moon AD :

1a)Why favorable: LoD for 7th house from Asc and Moon and has high points for 7th house

1b)Why Unfavorable : Moon aspects 7th house.

1c)Inference drawn: Yes, a planet which aspects 7th house cannot give the event but here it is extremely strong (>20 points), so it can give marriage.

----------------------------

2. Mars AD:

2a)Why favorable: LoE from 7th from Sun, Points are not low but on the boundary (12). Plus Mars should work for Moon (LoD for 7th).

2b)Why Unfavorable : Mars aspects 7th house and is rather weak.

2c)Inference drawn : Mars would be a weak candidate to give the event.

-----------------------

3. Rahu AD :

3a)Why favorable: Rahu represents Venus which has low power for 7th and since happiness is not seen in marriage life so it becomes a strong candidate for giving marriage in its AD to this native.

3b)Why Unfavorable : Rahuâ€™s aspect on Venus is there which has the capability to even deprive one of marriage.

3c)Inference drawn: Rahuâ€™s aspect on Venus here and relationships between 2nd and 10th with 4th and 12th indicates love affairs and here Mars or Saturn is not playing the role to break the affair so Rahu can give marriage in its AD.

----------------------------

4. Ju AD:

4a)Why favorable: Ju is LoE for 7th from Asc and Moon and it has very high points for 7th house.

4b)Why Unfavorable: Marriage in its AD would not have become a cause of marital unhappiness, which is otherwise seen in the chart and somewhere said also in the main query.

4c)Inference drawn : Ju AD though fit to give marriage, does not seem to have given the event in its AD due to the unhappiness factor.

--------------------------------

5. Sa AD:

5a)Why favorable: When the AD of a delay causing planet comes, it gives marriage in the 1st sector itself. It is also strong for 7th house.

5b)Why unfavorable: Sa is affecting Karakâ€™s Ve and Mind Moon

5c)Inference drawn: Sa has the capacity here to give marriage inspite of its afliction to Karaks and mind which would however be instrumental in giving unhappiness in marriage (instead of unhappiness the more appropriate here would be 'feeling of Detachment').

Therefore in my thought process marriage has taken place of this lady.

I would request participating members if they can briefly write their favorable and unfavorable facets for each AD and also comment on the above for each particular facet.

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

--------------------------------

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:04:41 +0530 wrote

Dear Members

DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13

In this chart:

1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself.

2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA.

3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra.

4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA.

5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house.

Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married.

Thanks

Prabha

November 11, 2009

Dear Anup ji,

Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keepÂ me on track

and avoiding out of track.

If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them

samdharmi that is input for me.

Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto

2000 emails of achieves.....putting here so may be help full to other

members as well please have a look and comment on them where

requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your

valuable comment for them where required

Planets makingÂ 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate

analogy)

All Planets cojoin in sign

Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign

All Planets in same nakshatra

All Planets cojoin in navamsa

Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)

Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign

Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD

more then 4 points are expected)

If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may

be 2-3) instead Ra

Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin

in navamsa

Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per

KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not

intentionally

In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10

St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other

Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma

Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

Anup. M wrote:

Â

Dear Devi singh ji,

Â

I think samdharmi concept is not

clear somewhere in your mail

Â

Pleae note that ..

MOON AND JU AREÂ NOT NATURAL

SAMDHARMI

JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL

SAMDHARMI.

Â

Also we do notÂ consider 4:10

relation in navamsa.

Â

Regards

AnupÂ

Â

--- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput >

wrote:

devisigh <devisingh.rajput >

Re: Re: Practice Chart

Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM

Â

Dear All;

Some more thoughts to fix antra

St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3

year initial value

Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in

nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from

Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good

no zero in SAV so no addition in delay

Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay

St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay

Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are

aspected so that will add delay

Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events

Mo-Mo

Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event

But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added

Mo-Ma

Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them

samdharmi

Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi

Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa

Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.

Mo-Ra

Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju

in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju

so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still

to me

Mo-Ju

Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it

will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system

------------ ------

Regards,

Devisingh

devisigh wrote:

Dear Ash ji,

Namaskar

Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time.

I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system.

I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time

also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts

hope for comments from moderators for same.

I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta

and all very nice considering old time and situation.

hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to

absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can

be clarified with sameÂ so better results can be obtained related to

timing of events.

Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own

approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS

Please find below is thought process/approach:

I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally

retired and birth details are correct no rectification required

Quality of 7th house:

checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has

that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage.

checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok

checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then

43...ok

checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa.

.....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more

checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve,

St..Mo,Ju

checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and

Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house.

checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa.

...9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC

for child..7th is HB,11th is HC

checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and

navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for

child case

checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in

rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with

ve in navamsa spoils ve.

checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by

6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....

checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by

6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....

cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with

5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB

cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with

2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB

Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets:

as usual to be looked will look another time

Finding significator:

checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd

lord...Ve antra will bring more pain

looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6

points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd

lord

looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with

7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th

lord

looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so

ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and

aspect malefic to HOE

consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju....

...left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju

looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon

as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for

me to finalise

------------ ------

Regards,

Devisingh

Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT)

ca wrote:

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Dear Devisingh ji,

Â

Very nice attempt.Â

Please continue your chain of thought.

Â

Try to find the

antra that you think might give marriage.Â Just go upto antra.

Â

So first compute

the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period

that u think can give the event.

Â

However, do write

your thinking process.Â That will help one figure out

where you are going away or your confusion.

Â

Well Done.

Â

Cheers

!!!

Ash

-> http://www.ashtro.

ca

Â

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan

dtimingevents] On

Behalf Of devisigh

Thursday

November 5, 2009 6:42 AM

To:

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

Re:

[astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart

Â

Dear All;

My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only

7th house marriage:

selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house

Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house

other planets aspects 7th house i left them

Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left

that

Ju having highest points and also LoE

now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and

natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.

Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results

Thinking for samdharmi of Ju

in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi

Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters

........still this takes time for me to finalize

------------ ------

Regards,

Devisingh

ashsam73 wrote:

Â

Dear Nikhlesh ji,

You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of

all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.

Thanks Nikhlesh ji.

The date should be May 24th.

24th May 1979

4:10 AM

28N40

77E13

Sorry about that.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@

....> wrote:

>

> Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13

> Dear Ash ji,

>

> You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born

on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in

Aquarius at this time.

>

> If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.

>

> Please confirm.

>

> Regards,

> Nikhlesh Mathur

>

> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote

> >

>

> Add to

> this.

>

> 6) When

> can the native face health problems?

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> Ash's Corner [kas]

> Monday October 26, 2009

> 12:18 AM

> To:

> 'astrologyandtiming

events@grou ps.com'

> Practice Chart

>

> Dear

> Group,

>

> This

> lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now.

>

> Here is

> the chart

>

> 24th

> Feb 1979

>

> 4:10 AM

>

> 28N40

>

> 77E13

>

> From

> what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted

to

> marry. I am not clear from her posts

> that if she married the same guy or not.

> Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.

>

> If this

> chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.

>

> 1)

> Marriage

>

> 2)

> Child birth

>

> 3)

> Marital Relations overall

>

> 4)

> She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and

> asked if she should go for divorce.

>

> 5)

> Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart.

>

> Planet

>

> Degrees

>

> As

>

> 15 Ar 55

>

> Su

>

> 9 Ta 31

>

> Mo

>

> 13 Ar 48

>

> Ma

>

> 13 Ar 8

>

> Me

>

> 2 Ta 15

>

> Ju

>

> 11 Cn 16

>

> Ve

>

> 14 Ar 30

>

> Sa

>

> 14 Le 35

>

> Ra

>

> 20 Le 59

>

> Ke

>

> 20 Aq 59

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

Â

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

November 11, 2009

Dear Nikhlesh ji,

Please forgive if something sounds annoying but i have some comments as

below.

Mo Antra

"1b)Why Unfavorable : Moon aspects 7th house."

i think Aspects should not be considered when concern with timing of

event

"1c)Inference drawn: Yes, a planet which aspects 7th house cannot give

the event but here it is extremely strong (>20 points), so it can

give marriage."

I think if Planet id LoD/E then its sight should not be counted on A/B/C

Ma Antra

"LoE from 7th from Sun"

Here i have doubt that should we consider Sun as well ??

"

2c)Inference drawn : Mars would be a weak candidate to give the event."

It is from which angle seen?

Ju Antra

"4b)Why Unfavorable: Marriage in its AD would not have become a cause

of

marital unhappiness, which is otherwise seen in the chart and somewhere

said also in the main query."

Rather i have understanding that This gives marriage and Divorse will

be there at end when low power Antra comes (St and Mo are also have

good points in WS)

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

nikhlesh mathur wrote:

Â

11th Nov 09

Female native, 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13

Dear Prabha ji and Group,

Let us re-summarize the query here for marriage.

It is clear that there was Sa delay which got completed in May 2005.

So far so good.........

Now if you say that the lady is unmarried yet i.e. as on Nov 2009 this

lady has yet to marry, then it means that since May 2005 none of the

ADâ€™s out of Moon, Mars, Rahu, Jupiter and Saturn were able to give her

marriage.

Let us re-study each antra;

-----------------------------

1. Moon AD :

1a)Why favorable: LoD for 7th house from Asc and Moon and has high

points for 7th house

1b)Why Unfavorable : Moon aspects 7th house.

1c)Inference drawn: Yes, a planet which aspects 7th house cannot give

the event but here it is extremely strong (>20 points), so it can

give marriage.

----------------------------

2. Mars AD:

2a)Why favorable: LoE from 7th from Sun, Points are not low but on the

boundary (12). Plus Mars should work for Moon (LoD for 7th).

2b)Why Unfavorable : Mars aspects 7th house and is rather weak.

2c)Inference drawn : Mars would be a weak candidate to give the event.

-----------------------

3. Rahu AD :

3a)Why favorable: Rahu represents Venus which has low power for 7th and

since happiness is not seen in marriage life so it becomes a strong

candidate for giving marriage in its AD to this native.

3b)Why Unfavorable : Rahuâ€™s aspect on Venus is there which has the

capability to even deprive one of marriage.

3c)Inference drawn: Rahuâ€™s aspect on Venus here and relationships

between 2nd and 10th with 4th and 12th indicates love affairs and here

Mars or Saturn is not playing the role to break the affair so Rahu can

give marriage in its AD.

----------------------------

4. Ju AD:

4a)Why favorable: Ju is LoE for 7th from Asc and Moon and it has very

high points for 7th house.

4b)Why Unfavorable: Marriage in its AD would not have become a cause of

marital unhappiness, which is otherwise seen in the chart and somewhere

said also in the main query.

4c)Inference drawn : Ju AD though fit to give marriage, does not seem

to have given the event in its AD due to the unhappiness factor.

--------------------------------

5. Sa AD:

5a)Why favorable: When the AD of a delay causing planet comes, it gives

marriage in the 1st sector itself. It is also strong for 7th house.

5b)Why unfavorable: Sa is affecting Karakâ€™s Ve and Mind Moon

5c)Inference drawn: Sa has the capacity here to give marriage inspite

of its afliction to Karaks and mind which would however be instrumental

in giving unhappiness in marriage (instead of unhappiness the more

appropriate here would be 'feeling of Detachment').

Therefore in my thought process marriage has taken place of this lady.

I would request participating members if they can briefly write their

favorable and unfavorable facets for each AD and also comment on the

above for each particular facet.

Regards,

Nikhlesh Mathur

--------------------------------

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:04:41 +0530 wrote

Dear Members

DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13

In this chart:

1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself.

2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA.

3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra.

4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA.

5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by

the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its

house.

Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married.

Thanks

Prabha

November 11, 2009

Dear Prabha ji,

She is married.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

On Behalf Of prabha

Tuesday November 10, 2009

11:37 PM

To:

Subject:

Re: Practice Chart

Respected Ashji

" From what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted

to marry. I am not clear from her posts that if she married the same guy or

not. "

Now this sentence of yours means she is married either to the boy of her choice

or otherwise.

" Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. "

This statement of yours shows that her parents are still looking for a match

for her.

What is the status - Is she married or not married. Or do you want us to find

the marital status of the native.

Thanks

Prabha

,

" Ash's Corner " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Group,

>

> This lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now.

>

> Here is the chart

>

> 24th Feb 1979

> 4:10 AM

> 28N40

> 77E13

>

> From what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to

> marry. I am not clear from her posts that if she married the same guy or

> not. Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.

>

> If this chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.

>

> 1) Marriage

> 2) Child birth

> 3) Marital Relations overall

> 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and

> asked if she should go for divorce.

> 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart.

>

> Planet

> Degrees

>

> As

> 15 Ar 55

>

> Su

> 9 Ta 31

>

> Mo

> 13 Ar 48

>

> Ma

> 13 Ar 8

>

> Me

> 2 Ta 15

>

> Ju

> 11 Cn 16

>

> Ve

> 14 Ar 30

>

> Sa

> 14 Le 35

>

> Ra

> 20 Le 59

>

> Ke

> 20 Aq 59

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

http://www.ashtro.ca

>

November 11, 2009

Dear Devi singh ji,

My understanding is as per CAPS below.

Regards

Anup

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:

devisigh <devisingh.rajputRe: Re: Practice Chart Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM

Dear Anup ji,Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required

Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES

All Planets cojoin in sign NO

Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES

All Planets in same nakshatra YES

All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES

Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO

Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES

Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO

If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO

Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YESYes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionallyIn kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each otherSu samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YESMa samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote:

Dear Devi singh ji,

I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail

Pleae note that ..

MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI

JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.

Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.

Regards

Anup

--- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote:

devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comTuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM

Dear All;Some more thoughts to fix antraSt full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial valueJu aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not goodno zero in SAV so no addition in delayBlessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delaySt is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delayMo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house eventsMo-MoMo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give eventBut I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be addedMo-MaJu and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmiJu and Ma both are natural samdharmiJu and Ma

4:10 in rashi/navamsaJu LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.Mo-RaRa represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to meMo-JuJu Can give Event in 3rd Sector on itwill come up with more thought as gets educated to this system------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghdevisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji,NamaskarSincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERSPlease find below is thought process/approach:I am taking

acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification requiredQuality of 7th house:

checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage.

checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok

checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok

checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more

checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju

checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house.

checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC

checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case

checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve.

checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....

checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....

cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB

cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HBBlessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets:

as usual to be looked will look another timeFinding significator:

checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain

looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord

looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord

looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE

consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju

looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAsh's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote:

Dear Devisingh ji,

Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought.

Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra.

So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done.

Cheers !!!

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astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisighThursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart

Dear All;My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only7th house marriage:selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th houseSu and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th houseother planets aspects 7th house i left themSu is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left thatJu having highest points and also LoEnow considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives resultsThinking for samdharmi of Juin navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghashsam73 wrote:

Dear Nikhlesh ji,You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.Thanks Nikhlesh ji.The date should be May 24th.24th May 19794:10 AM28N4077E13Sorry about that.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. caastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:>> > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40,

77.E.13> Dear Ash ji,> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > Please confirm.> > Regards,> Nikhlesh Mathur> > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> >> > Add to> this.> > > 6) When> can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Sent:

Monday October 26, 2009> 12:18 AM> To:> 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'> Practice Chart> > > Dear> Group,> > > > This> lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is> the chart > > > > 24th> Feb 1979> > 4:10 AM> > 28N40> > 77E13> > > > From> what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> marry. I am not clear from her posts> that if she married the same guy or not.> Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > If this> chart came blindly

to you, can you predict the following.> > > > 1)> Marriage> > 2)> Child birth> > 3)> Marital Relations overall> > 4)> She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> asked if she should go for divorce.> > 5)> Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > Degrees> > > > > As> > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > Su> > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > Mo> > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > Ma> > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > Me> > > 2 Ta 15> >

> > > Ju> > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > Ve> > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > Sa> > > 14 Le 35> > > > > Ra> > > 20 Le 59> > > > > Ke> > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca>

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November 11, 2009

Dear Prabha ji,

Here Mars is in Mo navamsa so Mars is samdharmi to Mo.

So Mars can replace Mo where Mo is unable to perform during it's antra.

Mo and Mars are natural SD so by virtue of this Mo can also replace Mars.

Here Mo mahadasa is running.

First part is related to functional samdharmi concept whereas second one

belongs to natural samdharmi .

Both are different but as you know functional SD is more powerful

than natural SD.

Regards

Anup

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, prabha <prabha.acharya wrote:

prabha <prabha.acharya Re: Practice chart Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 9:56 AM

Dear Anup ji"Here Moon is not SD to Mars but Mars is SD to Moon. So Mars should act in Moon antra replacing Moon."You mentioned that Ma is SD to Mo. That means if Mo if in any case is unable to give results during its antra, then Ma antra will give result as was required to be given by Mo.Now the second part of your mail that Ma in Mo antra will act is not very clear. Could you please explain this part?ThanksPrabhaastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> DearÃ‚ Group,> Ã‚ > Ã‚ > Let me correct here which isÃ‚ understood wrongly somewhere> in the mail below.Ã‚ Ã‚ > Ã‚ > HereÃ‚ Moon is not SD to

Mars but Mars is SD to Moon.Ã‚ > SoÃ‚ Mars should act in Moon antra replacing Moon.> Ã‚ > Ã‚ > Regards> Anup> > Ã‚ > > > --- On Sun, 8/11/09, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:> > > nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur@ ...>> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Practice chart> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 2:30 PM> > > Ã‚ > > > > > > 08.11.09> Sub: Female native, 24.05.1979, 04:10 am, 28N40; 77E13, Asc 15Ar55> > Dear Group,> > Proceeding further on the

same chart for real practice, I wish to express the following;> > The Sa delay ends in May 2005 and at that time the Moon antra was in operation which is strong enough to give the marriage event.> > What if Moon antra do not give the event?> > The next antra is that of Mars.> > Mars aspects house B (and is weak) so it should not give the result on its own.> > Moon is SD to Mars. So Moon might depute Mars for the job which it somehow could not accomplish.> > Mars would be eager to work for Moon but it does not have strength to accomplish this mission. Mars has only 12 points for 7th house and so is not strong (it is a boundary-line case).> > Mars also has affliction of Rahu and so it would not give the marriage event.> > The Mars antra completes in Feb 2006. Next is Rahu antra.> > > Ra antra: > > Rahu

represent Ve Su. It is more like Ve.> Rahu is LoE for 12th house. It would be eager to give the results of the 12th house (this house is also considered for marriage).> Rahu represents Su also which is LoE for 12th.> > Ve is aspected by Rahu and has low power for 7th house. > > One of the events told is that the lady is unhappy in marriage and even asking if she could go for divorce. If this is the case then she might have got married in a planet of lower strength. > > Ve is weak for 7th house and also for 12th house and Rahu represents Ve. > > Most probably she got marriage in Ra AD (Feb 06 to Aug 07). When marriage is unhappy then it is usually performed in the sub period of the significator planet which has low points. Here Ve is significator for marriage but has low points for 7th house.> > So marriage in the antra of Rahu is possible if the Moon antra earlier is

missed.> > Ju antra : If suppose marriage could not take place in Rahu antra as well then the next antra is of Ju.> > Here Ju is LoE and very strong for 7th house.> But it is said and also understood from the chart that there is marriage unhappiness.> > Here Ju is of 30 points for 7th house so it will give the timing but it also has mf of 1.4 which makes it extremely good for the quality of the event happened in its AD.> > Marriage happiness is not seen. So Ju antra must not have given marriage.> > Sa antra : Next is Sa antra. Sa had been the delay causing planet and therefore if the native is still unmarried when this antra came then it will give marriage in the 1st sector itself ( Dec 08 to June 09). > > But again here Sa is strong for 7th house and even after taking mf into account it indicates to give marital happiness which practically speaking is not the

case with this native.> > INERENCE INDICATED:> > Considering that this lady had a love marriage and taking into account the unhappiness in her married life, the stronger indications are that she got married in the antra of Ra (representing Ve) which means marrying in low power planet and when the antra of Ju arrived next, some problems started cropping in the married life.> > Regards,> Nikhlesh Mathur> > > On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:33:18 +0530 wrote > > Dear Nikhlesh ji and group,> > Yes the delay is technically over in may 2005.> sofollowing antras are Mars,Rahu,Ju and Sa antra.> > What do you think about these antras?> Mars aspect 7th house now next possible antras for > > 1] Marriage > 2] Conception> 3] Health issues etc ????> > > Regards> Anup> > >

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November 11, 2009

Dear DevisinghI mean Ma has 12 pts.As I've studied in lessons,when we have an unhappy marriage,we have two possibilities:1-it will take place in the antra of 6th lord(or a planet SD TO 6TH LORD)2-in the antra of a planet with lowest points in WS for 7th house as BBest WishesHussein , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:>> Dear Hussein,> > Good learning from your mails too nice posts.> > "Ma has 12 pts ,but I think it can't give marriage as it is not SD for > 6L" or "even is not the lowest point Planet for 7H in WS"> > Second part i can understand that quality is poor so lowest points > planet antra can be selected...however i think that is not Must rule.> Can you please say something more for first part? why you feel Ma out?> Ma has 12 points that is 1 reason but what about it is not SD for 6L?> > ------------------> Regards,> Devisingh> > > Hussein wrote:> > > >> > Dear Ash ji ,Anup ji and members> > Let at first thanks Ash ji and Anup ji for their good guides and kind > > words which encourages us for learning more and more.> > Thanks Anup ji for his correction.Yes,we should consider the spoiling > > of Karaks.I didn't consider it in my analysis.Me as 6L is in 2nd > > house,Means in Karaksthan.I think we should add another point that Ve > > as FK is placed in 12th from 2nd,means 1st house.All these show that > > even with being Sa in Ve nakshtra ,the delay will not be moderated.> > The general status of chart is unhappy(I think it has discussed ).Sa > > delay will be ended in 21-22 May 2005.Aftre Mo antra we have Ma > > antra.Ma has 12 pts ,but I think it can't give marriage as it is not > > SD for 6L or even is not the lowest point Planet for 7H in WS.After > > that we have Ra antra which more represents Ve,which is lowest point > > planet for 7H inWS.I think 3rd sector of Ra antra will give the > > results.Maybe between 7-Jun-2007 to 19-Jun-2007.> > One member had asked about that why I told heart attach.When Su and Ma > > are related to 4th and 5th house by lordship or placement or being > > with their lords,It will be the possibility of heart attack.Also I > > think this native will have a bad accident in Mo MD and Ve AD .I > > explained it in my previous message.> > It may be some problems for childbirth because two malefics(Ra and Ma > > ) are there ,Its FK(8th lord from 5th which is Ju) is in 4th(12th from > > 5th), and also 5th lord is with 6th lord.> > As Ash ji has told,it is not bad if our answer is wrong,we should not > > fear that if we give a wrong answer,it showes us a weak student.We > > should give our thoughts,our ideas.Jus by that means we can learn.My > > answer my be wrong.It is not important for me if anyone think I am > > strong or weak after seeing my answer.THE ONLY IMPORTANT THING IS > > LEARNING COMPLETELY.> > Best Wishes> > Hussein> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "Anup. M" > > dalh_1@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Devi singh ji,> > > Â > > > Â > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail> > > Â > > > Pleae note that ..> > > MOON AND JU AREÂ NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI> > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.> > > Â > > > Also we do notÂ consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.> > > Â > > > Â > > > Regards> > > AnupÂ > > > Â > > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@> > > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM> > >> > >> > > Â > > >> > >> > >> > > Dear All;> > >> > > Some more thoughts to fix antra> > >> > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering > > 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value> > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good> > >> > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay> > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay> > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay> > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries > > are aspected so that will add delay> > >> > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events> > >> > > Mo-Mo> > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event> > >> > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added> > >> > > Mo-Ma> > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes > > them samdharmi> > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi> > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa> > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.> > >> > >> > > Mo-Ra> > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin > > Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju> > >> > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice > > still to me> > >> > > Mo-Ju> > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it> > >> > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system> > > ------------ ------> > > Regards,> > > Devisingh> > >> > > devisigh wrote:> > > Dear Ash ji,> > >> > > Namaskar> > >> > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time.> > >> > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system.> > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > > also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my > > attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.> > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, > > Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.> > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > > to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text > > can be clarified with sameÂ so better results can be obtained related > > to timing of events.> > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > > approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS> > >> > > Please find below is thought process/approach:> > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > > details are correct no rectification required> > >> > > Quality of 7th house:> > >> > >> > > checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is > > RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage.> > > checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok> > > checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok> > > checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with > > St in navamsa....spoils Ve more> > > checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju> > > checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC > > and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house.> > > checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. > > 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is > > HB,11th is HC> > > checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me > > 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case> > > checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is > > 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve.> > > checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... > > ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....> > > checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....> > > cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points > > aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB> > > cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also > > LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HBBlessings,compatibi > > lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets:> > >> > >> > > as usual to be looked will look another timeFinding significator:> > >> > >> > > checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will > > bring more pain> > > looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is > > with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord> > > looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and > > su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord> > > looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with > > 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE> > > consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as > > alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju> > > looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left > > ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise> > >> > > ------------ ------> > > Regards,> > > Devisingh> > >> > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote:> > > Â > > >> > >> > > Dear Devisingh ji,> > > Â > > > Very nice attempt.Â Please continue your chain of thought.> > > Â > > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage.Â Just go > > upto antra.> > > Â > > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > > best possible period that u think can give the event.> > > Â > > > However, do write your thinking process.Â That will help one figure > > out where you are going away or your confusion.> > > Â > > > Well Done.> > > Â > > >> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > Â > > >> > >> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan > > dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh> > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > Â > > > Â > > >> > >> > >> > > Dear All;> > >> > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only> > >> > > 7th house marriage:> > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house> > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house> > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them> > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i > > left that> > > Ju having highest points and also LoE> > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK > > and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.> > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results> > >> > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju> > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi> > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > > .......still this takes time for me to finalize> > >> > > ------------ ------> > > Regards,> > > Devisingh> > >> > >> > > ashsam73 wrote:> > >> > > Â > > >> > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,> > >> > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree > > of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.> > >> > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji.> > >> > > The date should be May 24th.> > >> > > 24th May 1979> > > 4:10 AM> > > 28N40> > > 77E13> > >> > > Sorry about that.> > >> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > >> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" > > <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> > > > Dear Ash ji,> > > >> > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born > > on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be > > in Aquarius at this time.> > > >> > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > > >> > > > Please confirm.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > >> > > >> > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> > > > >> > > >> > > > Add to> > > > this.> > > >> > > >> > > > 6) When> > > > can the native face health problems?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Cheers !!!> > > >> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@]> > > > Monday October 26, 2009> > > > 12:18 AM> > > > To:> > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'> > > > Practice Chart> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear> > > > Group,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > This> > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Here is> > > > the chart> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 24th> > > > Feb 1979> > > >> > > > 4:10 AM> > > >> > > > 28N40> > > >> > > > 77E13> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > From> > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts> > > > that if she married the same guy or not.> > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > If this> > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1)> > > > Marriage> > > >> > > > 2)> > > > Child birth> > > >> > > > 3)> > > > Marital Relations overall> > > >> > > > 4)> > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> > > > asked if she should go for divorce.> > > >> > > > 5)> > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Planet> > > >> > > >> > > > Degrees> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > As> > > >> > > >> > > > 15 Ar 55> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Su> > > >> > > >> > > > 9 Ta 31> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Mo> > > >> > > >> > > > 13 Ar 48> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Ma> > > >> > > >> > > > 13 Ar 8> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Me> > > >> > > >> > > > 2 Ta 15> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Ju> > > >> > > >> > > > 11 Cn 16> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Ve> > > >> > > >> > > > 14 Ar 30> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sa> > > >> > > >> > > > 14 Le 35> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Ra> > > >> > > >> > > > 20 Le 59> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Ke> > > >> > > >> > > > 20 Aq 59> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Cheers !!!> > > >> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > >> > > Â > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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November 11, 2009

Dear Group,

Ju antra seems to be very strong for the event.

One more addition. This Ju is triggering 7th Hs and 12th Hs. It's LoE for 7th with high bindus sitting in Hs D. and LoD for 12th Hs. Also has highest power in WS for 7th Hs and also good points for 12th Hs.

With the prolonged delay and Ju being in Li, I would say the third sector which is Jun 2008 - Nov 2008.

Thank you,

-Bella.

-

BPShiv

Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:30 AM

Re: Practice Chart

Dear Prabha ji,

Could be very well possible that the native is still unmarried maybe due to carreer related matters but again here is my thoughts if she is already married:

Karaks are spoilt and delay is lengthy therefore, even if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage, Ju followed by Ra seems to be very powerful.

As far as quality, Ju is spoilt but for the timing, Ju is LoE and also with more bindus sitting in Hs D making it very eager to give the result, which should be Jul 2007 - Nov 2008.

Thank you,

-Bella.

-

prabha

Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:33 AM

Practice Chart

Dear MembersDOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13In this chart:1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself. 2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA.3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra.4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA.5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house.Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married.ThanksPrabha

November 11, 2009

Dear Bella jiWe should consider the nature of the marriage.Here marriage is unhappy,then I think it can't take place in antra of Ju.Best WishesHussein , "BPShiv" <chandni_99 wrote:>> Dear Group,> > Ju antra seems to be very strong for the event.> > One more addition. This Ju is triggering 7th Hs and 12th Hs. It's LoE for 7th with high bindus sitting in Hs D. and LoD for 12th Hs. Also has highest power in WS for 7th Hs and also good points for 12th Hs.> > With the prolonged delay and Ju being in Li, I would say the third sector which is Jun 2008 - Nov 2008.> > Thank you,> -Bella.> > > - > BPShiv > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:30 AM> Re: Practice Chart> > > > > Dear Prabha ji,> > Could be very well possible that the native is still unmarried maybe due to carreer related matters but again here is my thoughts if she is already married:> > Karaks are spoilt and delay is lengthy therefore, even if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage, Ju followed by Ra seems to be very powerful. > > As far as quality, Ju is spoilt but for the timing, Ju is LoE and also with more bindus sitting in Hs D making it very eager to give the result, which should be Jul 2007 - Nov 2008.> > Thank you,> -Bella.> > > > - > prabha > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:33 AM> Practice Chart> > > > Dear Members> DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13> > In this chart:> 1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself. > 2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA.> 3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra.> 4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA.> 5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house.> Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married.> Thanks> Prabha>

November 11, 2009

Dear Hussein Ji,

It is wonderful to have you back!

I agree with you after looking more carefully I do believe Jupiter is positioned

to give because it is spoiled in it's antra it will not give good results. It

has highest points in SAV for 7H, is LoE in HD therefore becomes very eager to

give the results as we see in her chart as being unhappy. What had originally

threw me off was the fact that it is LoE in HD and has highest points in SAV for

7H, however the brief discussion about Jupiter with Ash Ji has had me thinking

about Guru a little differently, therefore I think Jupiter can give her marriage

and I think conception/childbirth could also happen in this antra as Jupiter is

in HE for 11H, and LoA for 5H is SD to Saturn LoE and Venus LoD for 5H. I do

believe that Saturn would give her cause for concern for health, since I believe

her health problems are childbirth related it would mean that she could have

conceived in this antra (jupiter) only? As Saturn hits right after?? Your

thoughts please.

With Kind Regards,

Shalini

, " Hussein " <ahahosien

wrote:

>

> Dear Bella ji

>

> We should consider the nature of the marriage.Here marriage is

> unhappy,then I think it can't take place

>

> in antra of Ju.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Hussein

> , " BPShiv "

> <chandni_99@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > Ju antra seems to be very strong for the event.

> >

> > One more addition. This Ju is triggering 7th Hs and 12th Hs. It's LoE

> for 7th with high bindus sitting in Hs D. and LoD for 12th Hs. Also has

> highest power in WS for 7th Hs and also good points for 12th Hs.

> >

> > With the prolonged delay and Ju being in Li, I would say the third

> sector which is Jun 2008 - Nov 2008.

> >

> > Thank you,

> > -Bella.

> >

> > -

> > BPShiv

> >

> > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:30 AM

> > Re: Practice Chart

> >

> > Dear Prabha ji,

> >

> > Could be very well possible that the native is still unmarried maybe

> due to carreer related matters but again here is my thoughts if she is

> already married:

> >

> > Karaks are spoilt and delay is lengthy therefore, even if Ra antra

> didn't give her the marriage, Ju followed by Ra seems to be very

> powerful.

> >

> > As far as quality, Ju is spoilt but for the timing, Ju is LoE and

> also with more bindus sitting in Hs D making it very eager to give the

> result, which should be Jul 2007 - Nov 2008.

> >

> > Thank you,

> > -Bella.

> >

> > -

> > prabha

> >

> > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:33 AM

> > Practice Chart

> >

> > Dear Members

> > DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13

> >

> > In this chart:

> > 1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself.

> > 2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA.

> > 3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra.

> > 4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA.

> > 5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is

> spoiled by the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th

> from its house.

> > Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got

> married.

> > Thanks

> > Prabha

> >

>

November 11, 2009

Dear Hussein ji,

Yes you are correct. Due to the poor quality marriage should have happened during the lower power planet or 6th Lo and therefore, I was sticking with Ra antra which was a possibility after delay.

But I am trying to debate myself with different antras and see the pros and cons. What if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage. As delay is the max. Full delay from Sa. Sa in the 5th and Ju in Li. Also, DBCE points are high. Keeping other factors in mind delay could be extened to Ju antra.

Then,

I thinking of Ju antra as Ju is very very strong for timing. So it could give the result but because overall quality is nil and Ju being in Li, both karaks spoilt, NK and FK in 12th from its own. 6th Lo in karaksthan. Ve with Sa in navamsa and with Ma in Rasi and Sa with Mo in navamsa and aspects Su in Rasi...all these are indirect pointers to separation when the overall quality of the chart from Lagna, Su Mo and Ve is zero. Now if the 2nd Hs is spoilt or 2nd Lo is spoilt it leads to multiple marriages/relationships.

Therefore, if Ju gives marriage, then after that comes Sa antra. Sa is LoD for the 2nd Hs with highest points in the WS could give a break. Now that being said, as mentioned earlier these are few pointers of separation that I was seeing (I still have to hass it out with Nikhlesh ji on this topic of separation)

Of course, like Nikhlesh ji said, for divorce male and female, both the charts have to be viewed but here we only have her data, we are not saying anything concrete but can say that there is a possibility. Now if we have the other person's chart to compare and overall chart quality is excellent and meets all the compatability aspects like Ma, Ve and so forth. has blessings than all this factors will change and will prevent the break.

Followed by Sa antra comes Me antra which is 6th Lo. These antras are not going to help her stabilize marriage.

Thank you,

-Bella.

-

Hussein

Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:33 AM

Re: Practice Chart

Dear Bella jiWe should consider the nature of the marriage.Here marriage is unhappy,then I think it can't take place in antra of Ju.Best WishesHussein , "BPShiv" <chandni_99 wrote:>> Dear Group,> > Ju antra seems to be very strong for the event.> > One more addition. This Ju is triggering 7th Hs and 12th Hs. It's LoE for 7th with high bindus sitting in Hs D. and LoD for 12th Hs. Also has highest power in WS for 7th Hs and also good points for 12th Hs.> > With the prolonged delay and Ju being in Li, I would say the third sector which is Jun 2008 - Nov 2008.> > Thank you,> -Bella.> > > - > BPShiv > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:30 AM> Re: Practice Chart> > > > > Dear Prabha ji,> > Could be very well possible that the native is still unmarried maybe due to carreer related matters but again here is my thoughts if she is already married:> > Karaks are spoilt and delay is lengthy therefore, even if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage, Ju followed by Ra seems to be very powerful. > > As far as quality, Ju is spoilt but for the timing, Ju is LoE and also with more bindus sitting in Hs D making it very eager to give the result, which should be Jul 2007 - Nov 2008.> > Thank you,> -Bella.> > > > - > prabha > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:33 AM> Practice Chart> > > > Dear Members> DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13> > In this chart:> 1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself. > 2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA.> 3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra.> 4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA.> 5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house.> Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married.> Thanks> Prabha>

November 11, 2009

Dear Ash Ji,Anup Ji,Hussein ji, Bella Ji, Nikhlesh Ji, and List Members,

I think we can then say that Jupiter has given marriage. My next question is,

was this a love marriage? Can Jupiter give her a love marriage?? My Thoughts for

(5h); Jupiter is LoA, is SD to Saturn who is LoE in HB, SD to Venus who is LoD.

Jupiter gives low points in SAV for 5h, but is high for 4h which becomes LoD for

7H (Ash Ji your questions on Guru to me is guiding me here let me know if I am

on the rigth track)Thus becoming eager to give marriage, but I believe not love

marriage. Moreover, Mercury is 6L and if 6L connects with 2H or 10H it denies

love marriage Mercury is in 2h LoD for 5h and SD to Saturn LoE for 5h, however I

think since Jupiter is in HE for 11H conception, she could have conceived in

this antra and could have had problems with the pregnancy that could have led to

health problems that could have started in Jupiter only due to conception but

escalate in Saturn antra. Jupiter has low points for 6H, but Saturn has high

points for 6H. So then, it is also possible that her problems get better in

Satrun antra as Saturn has high points and is LoE. Look forward to everyone's

thoughts.

Thank You Ash Ji for you questions on Guru I am still thinking on them and hope

to cover them more in depth with you and group soon.

With Kind Regards,

Shalini

, " BPShiv " <chandni_99

wrote:

>

> Dear Hussein ji,

>

> Yes you are correct. Due to the poor quality marriage should have happened

during the lower power planet or 6th Lo and therefore, I was sticking with Ra

antra which was a possibility after delay.

>

> But I am trying to debate myself with different antras and see the pros and

cons. What if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage. As delay is the max. Full

delay from Sa. Sa in the 5th and Ju in Li. Also, DBCE points are high. Keeping

other factors in mind delay could be extened to Ju antra.

>

> Then,

> I thinking of Ju antra as Ju is very very strong for timing. So it could give

the result but because overall quality is nil and Ju being in Li, both karaks

spoilt, NK and FK in 12th from its own. 6th Lo in karaksthan. Ve with Sa in

navamsa and with Ma in Rasi and Sa with Mo in navamsa and aspects Su in

Rasi...all these are indirect pointers to separation when the overall quality of

the chart from Lagna, Su Mo and Ve is zero. Now if the 2nd Hs is spoilt or 2nd

Lo is spoilt it leads to multiple marriages/relationships.

>

> Therefore, if Ju gives marriage, then after that comes Sa antra. Sa is LoD for

the 2nd Hs with highest points in the WS could give a break. Now that being

said, as mentioned earlier these are few pointers of separation that I was

seeing (I still have to hass it out with Nikhlesh ji on this topic of

separation)

>

> Of course, like Nikhlesh ji said, for divorce male and female, both the charts

have to be viewed but here we only have her data, we are not saying anything

concrete but can say that there is a possibility. Now if we have the other

person's chart to compare and overall chart quality is excellent and meets all

the compatability aspects like Ma, Ve and so forth. has blessings than all this

factors will change and will prevent the break.

>

> Followed by Sa antra comes Me antra which is 6th Lo. These antras are not

going to help her stabilize marriage.

>

> Thank you,

>

> -Bella.

>

> -

> Hussein

>

> Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:33 AM

> Re: Practice Chart

>

> Dear Bella ji

>

> We should consider the nature of the marriage.Here marriage is unhappy,then

I think it can't take place

>

> in antra of Ju.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Hussein

> , " BPShiv " <chandni_99@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > Ju antra seems to be very strong for the event.

> >

> > One more addition. This Ju is triggering 7th Hs and 12th Hs. It's LoE for

7th with high bindus sitting in Hs D. and LoD for 12th Hs. Also has highest

power in WS for 7th Hs and also good points for 12th Hs.

> >

> > With the prolonged delay and Ju being in Li, I would say the third sector

which is Jun 2008 - Nov 2008.

> >

> > Thank you,

> > -Bella.

> >

> > -

> > BPShiv

> >

> > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:30 AM

> > Re: Practice Chart

> >

> > Dear Prabha ji,

> >

> > Could be very well possible that the native is still unmarried maybe due

to carreer related matters but again here is my thoughts if she is already

married:

> >

> > Karaks are spoilt and delay is lengthy therefore, even if Ra antra didn't

give her the marriage, Ju followed by Ra seems to be very powerful.

> >

> > As far as quality, Ju is spoilt but for the timing, Ju is LoE and also

with more bindus sitting in Hs D making it very eager to give the result, which

should be Jul 2007 - Nov 2008.

> >

> > Thank you,

> > -Bella.

> >

> > -

> > prabha

> >

> > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:33 AM

> > Practice Chart

> >

> > Dear Members

> > DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13

> >

> > In this chart:

> > 1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself.

> > 2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA.

> > 3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra.

> > 4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA.

> > 5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by

the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house.

> > Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married.

> > Thanks

> > Prabha

> >

>

November 11, 2009

Dear Shaliniji and group,

Thats why with due course of time we learn and we never forget

this process.Next time when some other chart will be given,you start

looking with different aspect.

Which antra is feasible and more appropriate,members are striving

but everyone seems to be on right track by one way or other.

As we all know our KAS rules are fixed so is WS for timing event.

We can make mistakes while understanding but this is always there,

Its something not an easy task to fix antras in the span of 6 years

which comprises delay and then following antras of Moon,Ma,Ra,Ju and

Sa.

Think more.... the things are becoming crystal clear slowly !

Ohh i am late for my office too.

Regards

Anup

--- On Thu, 12/11/09, shalini <shalini3004 wrote:

shalini <shalini3004 Re: Practice Chart Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 6:01 AM

Dear Ash Ji,Anup Ji,Hussein ji, Bella Ji, Nikhlesh Ji, and List Members,I think we can then say that Jupiter has given marriage. My next question is, was this a love marriage? Can Jupiter give her a love marriage?? My Thoughts for (5h); Jupiter is LoA, is SD to Saturn who is LoE in HB, SD to Venus who is LoD. Jupiter gives low points in SAV for 5h, but is high for 4h which becomes LoD for 7H (Ash Ji your questions on Guru to me is guiding me here let me know if I am on the rigth track)Thus becoming eager to give marriage, but I believe not love marriage. Moreover, Mercury is 6L and if 6L connects with 2H or 10H it denies love marriage Mercury is in 2h LoD for 5h and SD to Saturn LoE for 5h, however I think since Jupiter is in HE for 11H conception, she could have conceived in this antra and could have had problems with the pregnancy that could have led to health problems that could have started in Jupiter only due to conception but escalate

in Saturn antra. Jupiter has low points for 6H, but Saturn has high points for 6H. So then, it is also possible that her problems get better in Satrun antra as Saturn has high points and is LoE. Look forward to everyone's thoughts. Thank You Ash Ji for you questions on Guru I am still thinking on them and hope to cover them more in depth with you and group soon.With Kind Regards,Shaliniastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "BPShiv" <chandni_99@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Hussein ji,> > Yes you are correct. Due to the poor quality marriage should have happened during the lower power planet or 6th Lo and therefore, I was sticking with Ra antra which was a possibility after delay.> > But I

am trying to debate myself with different antras and see the pros and cons. What if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage. As delay is the max. Full delay from Sa. Sa in the 5th and Ju in Li. Also, DBCE points are high. Keeping other factors in mind delay could be extened to Ju antra.> > Then,> I thinking of Ju antra as Ju is very very strong for timing. So it could give the result but because overall quality is nil and Ju being in Li, both karaks spoilt, NK and FK in 12th from its own. 6th Lo in karaksthan. Ve with Sa in navamsa and with Ma in Rasi and Sa with Mo in navamsa and aspects Su in Rasi...all these are indirect pointers to separation when the overall quality of the chart from Lagna, Su Mo and Ve is zero. Now if the 2nd Hs is spoilt or 2nd Lo is spoilt it leads to multiple marriages/relations hips.> > Therefore, if Ju gives marriage, then after that comes Sa antra. Sa is LoD for the 2nd Hs with highest points

in the WS could give a break. Now that being said, as mentioned earlier these are few pointers of separation that I was seeing (I still have to hass it out with Nikhlesh ji on this topic of separation) > > > Of course, like Nikhlesh ji said, for divorce male and female, both the charts have to be viewed but here we only have her data, we are not saying anything concrete but can say that there is a possibility. Now if we have the other person's chart to compare and overall chart quality is excellent and meets all the compatability aspects like Ma, Ve and so forth. has blessings than all this factors will change and will prevent the break.> > > > Followed by Sa antra comes Me antra which is 6th Lo. These antras are not going to help her stabilize marriage.> > > > Thank you,> > -Bella.> > > - > Hussein

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:33 AM> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > > Dear Bella ji> > We should consider the nature of the marriage.Here marriage is unhappy,then I think it can't take place > > in antra of Ju.> > Best Wishes> > Hussein> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "BPShiv" <chandni_99@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Group,> > >

> Ju antra seems to be very strong for the event.> > > > One more addition. This Ju is triggering 7th Hs and 12th Hs. It's LoE for 7th with high bindus sitting in Hs D. and LoD for 12th Hs. Also has highest power in WS for 7th Hs and also good points for 12th Hs.> > > > With the prolonged delay and Ju being in Li, I would say the third sector which is Jun 2008 - Nov 2008.> > > > Thank you,> > -Bella.> > > > > > - > > BPShiv > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:30 AM> > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart> >

> > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji,> > > > Could be very well possible that the native is still unmarried maybe due to carreer related matters but again here is my thoughts if she is already married:> > > > Karaks are spoilt and delay is lengthy therefore, even if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage, Ju followed by Ra seems to be very powerful. > > > > As far as quality, Ju is spoilt but for the timing, Ju is LoE and also with more bindus sitting in Hs D making it very eager to give the result, which should be Jul 2007 - Nov 2008.> > > > Thank you,> > -Bella.> > > > > > > > - > > prabha > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:33 AM> > [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart> > > > > > > > Dear Members> > DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13> > > > In this chart:> > 1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself. > > 2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA.> > 3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra.> > 4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA.> > 5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house.> > Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married.> > Thanks> > Prabha>

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