Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Dear Anup ji, Please provide your clarification for below my understanding related to samdharmi? What is CAPS?.......is it another name same as KAS?? "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" My understanding about this rule is.........planets are samdharmi if are in same sign viz.....1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi to each other 2 way "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" My understanding is Planet placed in House E/D with more then 5 bindu can come forward (can be samdharmi) to give result for its dipositor when gets chance. This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....LoD for 7th house is Ve........ and Ju in Ve sign with 5 bindu .....Ju can come forward to give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve Natural Samdharmi questions "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" My understanding is as below Ma and Mo making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Mo can not be boss so Ma will be boss ......Mo antra can be replaced by Ma...or Mo can come forward in its antra to give results for Ma........(Natural samdharmi) So it should be written as "Mo samdharmi to Ma..........Mo can be replaced by Ma" "Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma           YES" My understanding is as below Su and Ma making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Su will be boss ......Ma antra can be replaced by Su...or Ma can come forward in its antra to give results for Su........(Natural samdharmi) So it should be written as "Ma samdharmi to Su..........Ma can be replaced by Su" P.S.Bhukti Sequence indicated at summary page of worksheet that created confusion above mentioned. ------------------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Bella Ji, Please Find my QUERY/REFERENCE to you answers in CAPTITAL ------------------ Regards, Devisingh BPShiv wrote:   Dear Devi Singh ji, My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening.   Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? ----------CAPS MEANS??WHAT ANUP JI WRITTEN IN BELOW CHAIN "2.All Planets cojoin in sign   NO" By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. ----------UNDERSTOOD "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. ------NO AND BUT ......WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS NO IF LESS OR EQUAL 4 BINDU AS PER RASHI ...YES IF MORE THEN 4 BINDU FOR BOTH...IS IT THIS YOU WANT TO CONVEY? "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. -----SORRY TO SAY BUT THIS IS DOUBT FULL ......PLEASE REFER NOTES OF SUMMARY PAGE OF EXCEL SHEET AND ASH JI OLDER MESSAGE 2287 Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. ---NOT LIKE THAT NOT CONSIDERING 4:10 "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO" This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign NO. Ju is not SD to Su.  In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? --WHAT IS PRESPECTIVE TO FIND NATURAL SAMDHARMI ....IS IT BHUKTI SEQUENCE?........OR 4:10 IN KAAL PURUSH...... ----IF CASE LOOKING 4:10 .....MA/MO AND MA/SU MAKES 4:10 ...AND MO/SU ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE BOSS SO MA BECOME BOSS ....AND SU/MO GIVES RESULTS OF MA IN THERE ANTRA IS IT CORRECT UNDERSTANDING?? Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications.  Thank you, -Bella.    ----- Original Message ----- Anup. M To: Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: Re: Re: Practice Chart  Dear Devi singh ji,   Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions.   Regards Anup  --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput > wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput > Re: Re: Practice Chart Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM  Dear Anup ji, It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? "2.All Planets cojoin in sign   NO" By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO" This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   My understanding is as per CAPS below.  Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM  Dear Anup ji, Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign   NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign  YES All Planets in same nakshatra   YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa   YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign     YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa    YES Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma           YES Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail  Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.  Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.   Regards Anup  --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM  Dear All; Some more thoughts to fix antra St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good no zero in SAV so no addition in delay Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events Mo-Mo Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added Mo-Ma Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. Mo-Ra Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me Mo-Ju Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji, Namaskar Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS Please find below is thought process/approach: I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required Quality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another time Finding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ....me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ....left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote:  Dear Devisingh ji,  Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of devisigh Sent: Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM To: astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Subject: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart  Dear All; My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only 7th house marriage: selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house other planets aspects 7th house i left them Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that Ju having highest points and also LoE now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results Thinking for samdharmi of Ju in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters ........still this takes time for me to finalize ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh ashsam73 wrote:  Dear Nikhlesh ji, You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. Thanks Nikhlesh ji. The date should be May 24th. 24th May 1979 4:10 AM 28N40 77E13 Sorry about that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > Dear Ash ji, > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > Please confirm. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > Add to > this. > > > 6) When > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009 > 12:18 AM > To: > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com' > Practice Chart > > > Dear > Group, > > > > This > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is > the chart > > > > 24th > Feb 1979 > > 4:10 AM > > 28N40 > > 77E13 > > > > From > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > marry. I am not clear from her posts > that if she married the same guy or not. > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > If this > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > 1) > Marriage > > 2) > Child birth > > 3) > Marital Relations overall > > 4) > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > asked if she should go for divorce. > > 5) > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > Degrees > > > > > As > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > Su > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > Mo > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > Ma > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > Me > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > Ju > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > Ve > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > Sa > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > Ra > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > Ke > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Regards Anup --- On Mon, 23/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajputRe: Re: Practice Chart--samdharmi query Date: Monday, 23 November, 2009, 3:58 PM Dear Anup ji,Please provide your clarification for below my understanding related to samdharmi?What is CAPS?....... is it another name same as KAS??"6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"My understanding about this rule is.........planets are samdharmi if are in same sign viz.....1 in rashi and 1 in navamsaThis is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi to each other 2 way THE SAMDHARMI RULES ARE SIMPLE.IN ABOVE CASE JU AND MARS CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER AS YOU WROTE.JU IS IN LEO IN RASI ( EVEN IF JU IS BETWEEN 26.40Deg -30 Deg IN LEO WHERE JU WILL BE IN NAKSHTRA OF SUN ) AND MARS IN LEO IN NAVAMSA.IN RASI,A PLANET CAN BE SAMDHARMI TO NAKSHATRA LORD ONLY AND NOT TO RASI LORD.SO JU IN LEO CAN BE SAMDHARMI EITHER TO KETU,OR VE OR SUN WHERE AS IN NAVAMSA MARS IS SAMDHARMI TO SUN BEING IN SUN NAVAMSA.DO NOT TAKE SUN AS COMMON FACTOR FOR BEING SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER. DO READ AGAIN,A PLANET CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO SIGN LORD. SOME OTHER PLACEMENTS CAN MAKE THEM FUNCTIONAL SAMDHARMI,NO DOUBT. "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"My understanding is Planet placed in House E/D with more then 5 bindu can come forward (can be samdharmi) to give result for its dipositor when gets chance.This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....LoD for 7th house is Ve........ and Ju in Ve sign with 5 bindu ....Ju can come forward to give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve JU AND VE CAN NOT VE SAMDHARMI BUT THEY BOTH WILL BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULT (AS IN THIS EXAMPLE) FOR 7TH AS WELL AS 11TH HOUSES.ANY PLANET PLACED IN A SIGN WITH MORE THAN 4 BINDUS WILL BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULT LIKE SIGN LORD,SO THEY BOTH WORKING FOR A COMMON CAUSE BUT CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER. HERE JU CAN BE SAMDHARMI TO VENUS ONLY ... 1] JU IS IN 4TH PLACE FROM VE WITH MORE BINDUS IN RASI 2] IF JU IS PLACED TOGETHER WITH VE IN ANY NAVAMSA SIGN. 3] OR IF JU IS IN VENUS NAVAMSA Natural Samdharmi questions"Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"My understanding is as belowMa and Mo making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Mo can not be boss so Ma will be boss .....Mo antra can be replaced by Ma...or Mo can come forward in its antra to give results for Ma........(Natural samdharmi)So it should be written as "Mo samdharmi to Ma.......... Mo can be replaced by Ma""Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES"My understanding is as belowSu and Ma making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Su will be boss .....Ma antra can be replaced by Su...or Ma can come forward in its antra to give results for Su........(Natural samdharmi)So it should be written as "Ma samdharmi to Su.......... Ma can be replaced by Su" MOON IS NATURAL SAMDHARMI TO MARS BUT FOR MOON,MARS CAN NOT BE NATURAL SAMDHARMI.SUN IS NATURAL SAMDHARMI FOR MARS.THIS RELATIONSHIP IS PURELY UNDER IDEAL CONDITIONS ONLY LIKE ON THE BASIS OF FIRST COME FIRST SERVE. P.S.Bhukti Sequence indicated at summary page of worksheet that created confusion above mentioned.------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghdevisigh wrote: Dear Bella Ji,Please Find my QUERY/REFERENCE to you answers in CAPTITAL------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghBPShiv wrote:  Dear Devi Singh ji, My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?----------CAPS MEANS??WHAT ANUP JI WRITTEN IN BELOW CHAIN "2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. ----------UNDERSTOO D"6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. ------NO AND BUT ......WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS NO IF LESS OR EQUAL 4 BINDU AS PER RASHI ...YES IF MORE THEN 4 BINDU FOR BOTH...IS IT THIS YOU WANT TO CONVEY?"8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi.-----SORRY TO SAY BUT THIS IS DOUBT FULL ......PLEASE REFER NOTES OF SUMMARY PAGE OF EXCEL SHEET AND ASH JI OLDER MESSAGE 2287 Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. ---NOT LIKE THAT NOT CONSIDERING 4:10 "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign NO. Ju is not SD to Su. In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?--WHAT IS PRESPECTIVE TO FIND NATURAL SAMDHARMI ....IS IT BHUKTI SEQUENCE?... .....OR 4:10 IN KAAL PURUSH......----IF CASE LOOKING 4:10 .....MA/MO AND MA/SU MAKES 4:10 ...AND MO/SU ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE BOSS SO MA BECOME BOSS ....AND SU/MO GIVES RESULTS OF MA IN THERE ANTRA IS IT CORRECT UNDERSTANDING? ? Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. Thank you, -Bella. - Anup. M astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear Devi singh ji, Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comThursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM Dear Anup ji,It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way.....Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?"2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi"8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve"9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign"Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, My understanding is as per CAPS below. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM Dear Anup ji,Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES All Planets in same nakshatra YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YESYes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionallyIn kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each otherSu samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YESMa samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comTuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM Dear All;Some more thoughts to fix antraSt full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial valueJu aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not goodno zero in SAV so no addition in delayBlessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delaySt is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delayMo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house eventsMo-MoMo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give eventBut I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be addedMo-MaJu and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmiJu and Ma both are natural samdharmiJu and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsaJu LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.Mo-RaRa represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to meMo-JuJu Can give Event in 3rd Sector on itwill come up with more thought as gets educated to this system------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghdevisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji,NamaskarSincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERSPlease find below is thought process/approach:I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification requiredQuality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HBBlessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another timeFinding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAsh's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisighThursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear All;My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only7th house marriage:selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th houseSu and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th houseother planets aspects 7th house i left themSu is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left thatJu having highest points and also LoEnow considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives resultsThinking for samdharmi of Juin navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghashsam73 wrote: Dear Nikhlesh ji,You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.Thanks Nikhlesh ji.The date should be May 24th.24th May 19794:10 AM28N4077E13Sorry about that.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. caastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:>> > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> Dear Ash ji,> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > Please confirm.> > Regards,> Nikhlesh Mathur> > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> >> > Add to> this.> > > 6) When> can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009> 12:18 AM> To:> 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'> Practice Chart> > > Dear> Group,> > > > This> lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is> the chart > > > > 24th> Feb 1979> > 4:10 AM> > 28N40> > 77E13> > > > From> what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> marry. I am not clear from her posts> that if she married the same guy or not.> Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > If this> chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > 1)> Marriage> > 2)> Child birth> > 3)> Marital Relations overall> > 4)> She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> asked if she should go for divorce.> > 5)> Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > Degrees> > > > > As> > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > Su> > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > Mo> > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > Ma> > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > Me> > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > Ju> > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > Ve> > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > Sa> > > 14 Le 35> > > > > Ra> > > 20 Le 59> > > > > Ke> > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Dear Anup Ji, Thanks for your answers........This will definitely helps much to clear my doubts. In lesson 25 --rule 5th for functional samdharmi --this seems confusing to me and i came to some questions as below. Part of text is as below. "Suppose Planet P is in the same sign as Planet R in the rasi chart below and Q is in the same Navamsha sign as R is in the rasi chart. (see figure 1). Here we can say that planets P and Q are BOTH Samdharmi to Planet R " My understanding is as below. ---planet Q will be samdharmi to navamsa lord 1 way ---P is samdharmi to R (2 way)----i guess they both are considered in same sign and same nakshatra as well?? ---Q is samdharmi to R---here is question on what basis/relation??is this 1way or 2 way?? Still CAPS remains question to me....please provide full form? Please correct me on below viz considering natural samdharmi only ---Mo antra can give results related to Ma---considering 1 way ---Ma antra (if came first after delay over)can gives results for Su ---Su antra (if came first after delay over)can gives results for Ma ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear devi singh ji,   Please follow the link below.  Regards Anup  --- On Mon, 23/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput > wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput > Re: Re: Practice Chart--samdharmi query Monday, 23 November, 2009, 3:58 PM  Dear Anup ji, Please provide your clarification for below my understanding related to samdharmi? What is CAPS?....... is it another name same as KAS?? "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" My understanding about this rule is.........planets are samdharmi if are in same sign viz.....1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi to each other 2 way  THE SAMDHARMI RULES ARE SIMPLE.IN ABOVE CASE JU AND MARS CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER AS YOU WROTE.JU IS IN LEO IN RASI ( EVEN IF JU IS BETWEEN 26.40Deg -30 Deg IN LEO WHERE JU WILL BE IN NAKSHTRA OF SUN ) AND MARS IN LEO IN NAVAMSA.IN RASI,A PLANET CAN BE SAMDHARMI TO NAKSHATRA LORD ONLY AND NOT TO RASI LORD.SO JU IN LEO CAN BE SAMDHARMI EITHER TO KETU,OR VE OR SUN WHERE AS IN NAVAMSA MARS IS SAMDHARMI TO SUN BEING IN SUN NAVAMSA.DO NOT TAKE SUN AS COMMON FACTOR FOR BEING SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER.   DO READ AGAIN,A PLANET CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO SIGN LORD.  SOME OTHER PLACEMENTS CAN MAKE THEM FUNCTIONAL SAMDHARMI,NO DOUBT. "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" My understanding is Planet placed in House E/D with more then 5 bindu can come forward (can be samdharmi) to give result for its dipositor when gets chance. This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....LoD for 7th house is Ve........ and Ju in Ve sign with 5 bindu .....Ju can come forward to give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve  JU AND VE CAN NOT VE SAMDHARMI BUT THEY BOTH WILL BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULT (AS IN THIS EXAMPLE) FOR 7TH AS WELL AS 11TH HOUSES.ANY PLANET PLACED IN A SIGN WITH MORE THAN 4 BINDUS WILL BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULT LIKE SIGN LORD,SO THEY BOTH WORKING FOR A COMMON CAUSE BUT CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER.  HERE JU CAN BE SAMDHARMI TO VENUS ONLY ...  1] JU IS IN 4TH PLACE FROM VE WITH MORE BINDUS IN RASI 2]  IF JU IS PLACED TOGETHER WITH VE IN ANY NAVAMSA SIGN. 3] OR IF JU IS IN VENUS NAVAMSA Natural Samdharmi questions "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" My understanding is as below Ma and Mo making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Mo can not be boss so Ma will be boss ......Mo antra can be replaced by Ma...or Mo can come forward in its antra to give results for Ma........(Natural samdharmi) So it should be written as "Mo samdharmi to Ma.......... Mo can be replaced by Ma" "Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma           YES" My understanding is as below Su and Ma making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Su will be boss .....Ma antra can be replaced by Su...or Ma can come forward in its antra to give results for Su........(Natural samdharmi) So it should be written as "Ma samdharmi to Su.......... Ma can be replaced by Su"  MOON IS NATURAL SAMDHARMI TO MARS BUT FOR MOON,MARS CAN NOT BE NATURAL SAMDHARMI.SUN IS NATURAL SAMDHARMI FOR MARS.THIS RELATIONSHIP IS PURELY UNDER IDEAL CONDITIONS ONLY LIKE ON THE BASIS OF FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.  P.S.Bhukti Sequence indicated at summary page of worksheet that created confusion above mentioned. ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Bella Ji, Please Find my QUERY/REFERENCE to you answers in CAPTITAL ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh BPShiv wrote:   Dear Devi Singh ji, My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening.   Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? ----------CAPS MEANS??WHAT ANUP JI WRITTEN IN BELOW CHAIN "2.All Planets cojoin in sign   NO" By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. ----------UNDERSTOO D "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. ------NO AND BUT ......WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS NO IF LESS OR EQUAL 4 BINDU AS PER RASHI ...YES IF MORE THEN 4 BINDU FOR BOTH...IS IT THIS YOU WANT TO CONVEY? "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. -----SORRY TO SAY BUT THIS IS DOUBT FULL ......PLEASE REFER NOTES OF SUMMARY PAGE OF EXCEL SHEET AND ASH JI OLDER MESSAGE 2287 Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. ---NOT LIKE THAT NOT CONSIDERING 4:10 "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO" This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign NO. Ju is not SD to Su.  In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? --WHAT IS PRESPECTIVE TO FIND NATURAL SAMDHARMI ....IS IT BHUKTI SEQUENCE?... .....OR 4:10 IN KAAL PURUSH...... ----IF CASE LOOKING 4:10 .....MA/MO AND MA/SU MAKES 4:10 ...AND MO/SU ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE BOSS SO MA BECOME BOSS ....AND SU/MO GIVES RESULTS OF MA IN THERE ANTRA IS IT CORRECT UNDERSTANDING? ? Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications.  Thank you, -Bella.    ----- Original Message ----- Anup. M To: astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart  Dear Devi singh ji,   Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions.   Regards Anup  --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM  Dear Anup ji, It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? "2.All Planets cojoin in sign   NO" By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO" This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   My understanding is as per CAPS below.  Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM  Dear Anup ji, Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign   NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign  YES All Planets in same nakshatra   YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa   YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign     YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa    YES Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma           YES Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail  Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.  Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.   Regards Anup  --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM  Dear All; Some more thoughts to fix antra St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good no zero in SAV so no addition in delay Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events Mo-Mo Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added Mo-Ma Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. Mo-Ra Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me Mo-Ju Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji, Namaskar Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS Please find below is thought process/approach: I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required Quality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another time Finding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points .....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ....left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points .....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote:  Dear Devisingh ji,  Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of devisigh Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart  Dear All; My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only 7th house marriage: selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house other planets aspects 7th house i left them Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that Ju having highest points and also LoE now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results Thinking for samdharmi of Ju in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters ........still this takes time for me to finalize ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh ashsam73 wrote:  Dear Nikhlesh ji, You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. Thanks Nikhlesh ji. The date should be May 24th. 24th May 1979 4:10 AM 28N40 77E13 Sorry about that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > Dear Ash ji, > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > Please confirm. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > Add to > this. > > > 6) When > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009 > 12:18 AM > To: > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com' > Practice Chart > > > Dear > Group, > > > > This > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is > the chart > > > > 24th > Feb 1979 > > 4:10 AM > > 28N40 > > 77E13 > > > > From > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > marry. I am not clear from her posts > that if she married the same guy or not. > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > If this > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > 1) > Marriage > > 2) > Child birth > > 3) > Marital Relations overall > > 4) > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > asked if she should go for divorce. > > 5) > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > Degrees > > > > > As > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > Su > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > Mo > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > Ma > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > Me > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > Ju > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > Ve > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > Sa > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > Ra > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > Ke > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Dear Devi singh ji, Good to see you asking these basic questions. Do not get confused and understand this concept the way origionally intended.Like in the example you quoted here,first read the former line that if two planets are samdharmi to another planet,then they will act accordingly in the sequence from the highest level to the lowest level of strength (as given there from point 1 to 4 ). In navamsa,a planet will be having one way relation only and will be samdharmi to navamsa lord and navamsa lord will not be samdharmi to any planet residing in it. Coming to your repeated question of Caps,this is nothing but using bold or capital letters for accentuating/emphasising your meaning. Your understanding about Mo being samdharmi to Ma is correct. In similar way,Sun can step in for Ma and vicaversa. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 24/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajputRe: Re: Practice Chart--samdharmi query Date: Tuesday, 24 November, 2009, 2:25 PM Dear Anup Ji,Thanks for your answers..... ...This will definitely helps much to clear my doubts.In lesson 25 --rule 5th for functional samdharmi --this seems confusing to me and i came to some questions as below.Part of text is as below."Suppose Planet P is in the same sign as Planet R in the rasi chart below and Q is in the same Navamsha sign as R is in the rasi chart. (see figure 1). Here we can say that planets P and Q are BOTH Samdharmi to Planet R "My understanding is as below.---planet Q will be samdharmi to navamsa lord 1 way---P is samdharmi to R (2 way)----i guess they both are considered in same sign and same nakshatra as well??---Q is samdharmi to R---here is question on what basis/relation? ?is this 1way or 2 way??Still CAPS remains question to me....please provide full form?Please correct me on below viz considering natural samdharmi only---Mo antra can give results related to Ma---considering 1 way---Ma antra (if came first after delay over)can gives results for Su---Su antra (if came first after delay over)can gives results for Ma------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear devi singh ji, Please follow the link below. Regards Anup --- On Mon, 23/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart--samdharmi queryastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comMonday, 23 November, 2009, 3:58 PM Dear Anup ji,Please provide your clarification for below my understanding related to samdharmi?What is CAPS?....... is it another name same as KAS??"6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"My understanding about this rule is.........planets are samdharmi if are in same sign viz.....1 in rashi and 1 in navamsaThis is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi to each other 2 way THE SAMDHARMI RULES ARE SIMPLE.IN ABOVE CASE JU AND MARS CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER AS YOU WROTE.JU IS IN LEO IN RASI ( EVEN IF JU IS BETWEEN 26.40Deg -30 Deg IN LEO WHERE JU WILL BE IN NAKSHTRA OF SUN ) AND MARS IN LEO IN NAVAMSA.IN RASI,A PLANET CAN BE SAMDHARMI TO NAKSHATRA LORD ONLY AND NOT TO RASI LORD.SO JU IN LEO CAN BE SAMDHARMI EITHER TO KETU,OR VE OR SUN WHERE AS IN NAVAMSA MARS IS SAMDHARMI TO SUN BEING IN SUN NAVAMSA.DO NOT TAKE SUN AS COMMON FACTOR FOR BEING SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER. DO READ AGAIN,A PLANET CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO SIGN LORD. SOME OTHER PLACEMENTS CAN MAKE THEM FUNCTIONAL SAMDHARMI,NO DOUBT. "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"My understanding is Planet placed in House E/D with more then 5 bindu can come forward (can be samdharmi) to give result for its dipositor when gets chance.This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....LoD for 7th house is Ve........ and Ju in Ve sign with 5 bindu ....Ju can come forward to give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve JU AND VE CAN NOT VE SAMDHARMI BUT THEY BOTH WILL BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULT (AS IN THIS EXAMPLE) FOR 7TH AS WELL AS 11TH HOUSES.ANY PLANET PLACED IN A SIGN WITH MORE THAN 4 BINDUS WILL BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULT LIKE SIGN LORD,SO THEY BOTH WORKING FOR A COMMON CAUSE BUT CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER. HERE JU CAN BE SAMDHARMI TO VENUS ONLY ... 1] JU IS IN 4TH PLACE FROM VE WITH MORE BINDUS IN RASI 2] IF JU IS PLACED TOGETHER WITH VE IN ANY NAVAMSA SIGN. 3] OR IF JU IS IN VENUS NAVAMSA Natural Samdharmi questions"Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"My understanding is as belowMa and Mo making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Mo can not be boss so Ma will be boss .....Mo antra can be replaced by Ma...or Mo can come forward in its antra to give results for Ma........(Natural samdharmi)So it should be written as "Mo samdharmi to Ma.......... Mo can be replaced by Ma""Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES"My understanding is as belowSu and Ma making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Su will be boss .....Ma antra can be replaced by Su...or Ma can come forward in its antra to give results for Su........(Natural samdharmi)So it should be written as "Ma samdharmi to Su.......... Ma can be replaced by Su" MOON IS NATURAL SAMDHARMI TO MARS BUT FOR MOON,MARS CAN NOT BE NATURAL SAMDHARMI.SUN IS NATURAL SAMDHARMI FOR MARS.THIS RELATIONSHIP IS PURELY UNDER IDEAL CONDITIONS ONLY LIKE ON THE BASIS OF FIRST COME FIRST SERVE. P.S.Bhukti Sequence indicated at summary page of worksheet that created confusion above mentioned.------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghdevisigh wrote: Dear Bella Ji,Please Find my QUERY/REFERENCE to you answers in CAPTITAL------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghBPShiv wrote:  Dear Devi Singh ji, My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?----------CAPS MEANS??WHAT ANUP JI WRITTEN IN BELOW CHAIN "2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. ----------UNDERSTOO D"6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. ------NO AND BUT ......WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS NO IF LESS OR EQUAL 4 BINDU AS PER RASHI ...YES IF MORE THEN 4 BINDU FOR BOTH...IS IT THIS YOU WANT TO CONVEY?"8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi.-----SORRY TO SAY BUT THIS IS DOUBT FULL ......PLEASE REFER NOTES OF SUMMARY PAGE OF EXCEL SHEET AND ASH JI OLDER MESSAGE 2287 Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. ---NOT LIKE THAT NOT CONSIDERING 4:10 "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign NO. Ju is not SD to Su. In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?--WHAT IS PRESPECTIVE TO FIND NATURAL SAMDHARMI ....IS IT BHUKTI SEQUENCE?... .....OR 4:10 IN KAAL PURUSH......----IF CASE LOOKING 4:10 .....MA/MO AND MA/SU MAKES 4:10 ...AND MO/SU ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE BOSS SO MA BECOME BOSS ....AND SU/MO GIVES RESULTS OF MA IN THERE ANTRA IS IT CORRECT UNDERSTANDING? ? Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. Thank you, -Bella. - Anup. M astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear Devi singh ji, Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comThursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM Dear Anup ji,It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way.....Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?"2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi"8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve"9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign"Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, My understanding is as per CAPS below. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM Dear Anup ji,Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES All Planets in same nakshatra YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YESYes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionallyIn kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each otherSu samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YESMa samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comTuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM Dear All;Some more thoughts to fix antraSt full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial valueJu aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not goodno zero in SAV so no addition in delayBlessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delaySt is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delayMo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house eventsMo-MoMo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give eventBut I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be addedMo-MaJu and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmiJu and Ma both are natural samdharmiJu and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsaJu LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.Mo-RaRa represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to meMo-JuJu Can give Event in 3rd Sector on itwill come up with more thought as gets educated to this system------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghdevisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji,NamaskarSincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERSPlease find below is thought process/approach:I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification requiredQuality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HBBlessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another timeFinding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAsh's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisighThursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear All;My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only7th house marriage:selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th houseSu and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th houseother planets aspects 7th house i left themSu is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left thatJu having highest points and also LoEnow considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives resultsThinking for samdharmi of Juin navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghashsam73 wrote: Dear Nikhlesh ji,You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.Thanks Nikhlesh ji.The date should be May 24th.24th May 19794:10 AM28N4077E13Sorry about that.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. caastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:>> > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> Dear Ash ji,> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > Please confirm.> > Regards,> Nikhlesh Mathur> > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> >> > Add to> this.> > > 6) When> can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009> 12:18 AM> To:> 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'> Practice Chart> > > Dear> Group,> > > > This> lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is> the chart > > > > 24th> Feb 1979> > 4:10 AM> > 28N40> > 77E13> > > > From> what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> marry. I am not clear from her posts> that if she married the same guy or not.> Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > If this> chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > 1)> Marriage> > 2)> Child birth> > 3)> Marital Relations overall> > 4)> She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> asked if she should go for divorce.> > 5)> Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > Degrees> > > > > As> > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > Su> > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > Mo> > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > Ma> > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > Me> > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > Ju> > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > Ve> > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > Sa> > > 14 Le 35> > > > > Ra> > > 20 Le 59> > > > > Ke> > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Dear Anup Ji, Thanks for your kindness............I am sorry but i have no intelligence(no any St sector)!!!.... "planet is samdharmi to Nakshatra lord" Should we consider nakshatra lord Ra/Ke?? E.g. ---Ra is in Leo and Ketu nakshatra and Ke is in aquarious and Ra nakshatra Mo is in Ra nakshatra .........Mo is samdharmi to Sun? If above is yes then Should we consider nesting here?? e.g. Mo in Ra Nakshatra and Ra in Ketu and Ketu in Ra........ I am now much better in natural samdharmi only 1 question...... "Natural samdharmi Cease to become natural samdharmi if making 1:7" Should we look 1:7 in navamsa as well ?? i think we should check this in rashi only same as 4:10 Looking Forward ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   Good to see you asking these basic questions.  Do not get confused and understand this concept the way origionally intended.Like in the example you quoted here,first read the former line that if two planets are samdharmi to another planet,then they will act accordingly in the sequence from the highest level to the lowest level of strength (as given there from point 1 to 4 ).   In navamsa,a planet will be having one way relation only and will be samdharmi to navamsa lord and navamsa lord will not be samdharmi to any planet residing in it.   Coming to your repeated question of Caps,this is nothing but using bold or capital letters for accentuating/emphasising your meaning.   Your understanding about Mo being samdharmi to Ma is correct. In similar way,Sun can step in for Ma and vicaversa.   Regards Anup        --- On Tue, 24/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput > wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput > Re: Re: Practice Chart--samdharmi query Tuesday, 24 November, 2009, 2:25 PM  Dear Anup Ji, Thanks for your answers..... ...This will definitely helps much to clear my doubts. In lesson 25 --rule 5th for functional samdharmi --this seems confusing to me and i came to some questions as below. Part of text is as below. "Suppose Planet P is in the same sign as Planet R in the rasi chart below and Q is in the same Navamsha sign as R is in the rasi chart. (see figure 1). Here we can say that planets P and Q are BOTH Samdharmi to Planet R " My understanding is as below. ---planet Q will be samdharmi to navamsa lord 1 way ---P is samdharmi to R (2 way)----i guess they both are considered in same sign and same nakshatra as well?? ---Q is samdharmi to R---here is question on what basis/relation? ?is this 1way or 2 way?? Still CAPS remains question to me....please provide full form? Please correct me on below viz considering natural samdharmi only ---Mo antra can give results related to Ma---considering 1 way ---Ma antra (if came first after delay over)can gives results for Su ---Su antra (if came first after delay over)can gives results for Ma ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear devi singh ji,   Please follow the link below.  Regards Anup  --- On Mon, 23/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart--samdharmi query astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Monday, 23 November, 2009, 3:58 PM  Dear Anup ji, Please provide your clarification for below my understanding related to samdharmi? What is CAPS?....... is it another name same as KAS?? "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" My understanding about this rule is.........planets are samdharmi if are in same sign viz.....1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi to each other 2 way  THE SAMDHARMI RULES ARE SIMPLE.IN ABOVE CASE JU AND MARS CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER AS YOU WROTE.JU IS IN LEO IN RASI ( EVEN IF JU IS BETWEEN 26.40Deg -30 Deg IN LEO WHERE JU WILL BE IN NAKSHTRA OF SUN ) AND MARS IN LEO IN NAVAMSA.IN RASI,A PLANET CAN BE SAMDHARMI TO NAKSHATRA LORD ONLY AND NOT TO RASI LORD.SO JU IN LEO CAN BE SAMDHARMI EITHER TO KETU,OR VE OR SUN WHERE AS IN NAVAMSA MARS IS SAMDHARMI TO SUN BEING IN SUN NAVAMSA.DO NOT TAKE SUN AS COMMON FACTOR FOR BEING SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER.   DO READ AGAIN,A PLANET CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO SIGN LORD.  SOME OTHER PLACEMENTS CAN MAKE THEM FUNCTIONAL SAMDHARMI,NO DOUBT. "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" My understanding is Planet placed in House E/D with more then 5 bindu can come forward (can be samdharmi) to give result for its dipositor when gets chance. This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....LoD for 7th house is Ve........ and Ju in Ve sign with 5 bindu .....Ju can come forward to give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve  JU AND VE CAN NOT VE SAMDHARMI BUT THEY BOTH WILL BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULT (AS IN THIS EXAMPLE) FOR 7TH AS WELL AS 11TH HOUSES.ANY PLANET PLACED IN A SIGN WITH MORE THAN 4 BINDUS WILL BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULT LIKE SIGN LORD,SO THEY BOTH WORKING FOR A COMMON CAUSE BUT CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER.  HERE JU CAN BE SAMDHARMI TO VENUS ONLY ...  1] JU IS IN 4TH PLACE FROM VE WITH MORE BINDUS IN RASI 2]  IF JU IS PLACED TOGETHER WITH VE IN ANY NAVAMSA SIGN. 3] OR IF JU IS IN VENUS NAVAMSA Natural Samdharmi questions "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" My understanding is as below Ma and Mo making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Mo can not be boss so Ma will be boss ......Mo antra can be replaced by Ma...or Mo can come forward in its antra to give results for Ma........(Natural samdharmi) So it should be written as "Mo samdharmi to Ma.......... Mo can be replaced by Ma" "Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma           YES" My understanding is as below Su and Ma making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Su will be boss .....Ma antra can be replaced by Su...or Ma can come forward in its antra to give results for Su........(Natural samdharmi) So it should be written as "Ma samdharmi to Su.......... Ma can be replaced by Su"  MOON IS NATURAL SAMDHARMI TO MARS BUT FOR MOON,MARS CAN NOT BE NATURAL SAMDHARMI.SUN IS NATURAL SAMDHARMI FOR MARS.THIS RELATIONSHIP IS PURELY UNDER IDEAL CONDITIONS ONLY LIKE ON THE BASIS OF FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.  P.S.Bhukti Sequence indicated at summary page of worksheet that created confusion above mentioned. ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Bella Ji, Please Find my QUERY/REFERENCE to you answers in CAPTITAL ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh BPShiv wrote:   Dear Devi Singh ji, My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening.   Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? ----------CAPS MEANS??WHAT ANUP JI WRITTEN IN BELOW CHAIN "2.All Planets cojoin in sign   NO" By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. ----------UNDERSTOO D "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. ------NO AND BUT ......WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS NO IF LESS OR EQUAL 4 BINDU AS PER RASHI ...YES IF MORE THEN 4 BINDU FOR BOTH...IS IT THIS YOU WANT TO CONVEY? "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. -----SORRY TO SAY BUT THIS IS DOUBT FULL ......PLEASE REFER NOTES OF SUMMARY PAGE OF EXCEL SHEET AND ASH JI OLDER MESSAGE 2287 Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. ---NOT LIKE THAT NOT CONSIDERING 4:10 "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO" This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign NO. Ju is not SD to Su.  In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? --WHAT IS PRESPECTIVE TO FIND NATURAL SAMDHARMI ....IS IT BHUKTI SEQUENCE?... .....OR 4:10 IN KAAL PURUSH...... ----IF CASE LOOKING 4:10 .....MA/MO AND MA/SU MAKES 4:10 ...AND MO/SU ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE BOSS SO MA BECOME BOSS ....AND SU/MO GIVES RESULTS OF MA IN THERE ANTRA IS IT CORRECT UNDERSTANDING? ? Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications.  Thank you, -Bella.    ----- Original Message ----- Anup. M To: astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart  Dear Devi singh ji,   Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions.   Regards Anup  --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM  Dear Anup ji, It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? "2.All Planets cojoin in sign   NO" By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO" This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   My understanding is as per CAPS below.  Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM  Dear Anup ji, Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign   NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign  YES All Planets in same nakshatra   YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa   YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign     YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa    YES Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma           YES Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail  Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.  Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.   Regards Anup  --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM  Dear All; Some more thoughts to fix antra St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good no zero in SAV so no addition in delay Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events Mo-Mo Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added Mo-Ma Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. Mo-Ra Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me Mo-Ju Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji, Namaskar Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS Please find below is thought process/approach: I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required Quality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another time Finding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points .....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points .....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote:  Dear Devisingh ji,  Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of devisigh Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart  Dear All; My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only 7th house marriage: selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house other planets aspects 7th house i left them Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that Ju having highest points and also LoE now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results Thinking for samdharmi of Ju in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters ........still this takes time for me to finalize ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh ashsam73 wrote:  Dear Nikhlesh ji, You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. Thanks Nikhlesh ji. The date should be May 24th. 24th May 1979 4:10 AM 28N40 77E13 Sorry about that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > Dear Ash ji, > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > Please confirm. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > Add to > this. > > > 6) When > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009 > 12:18 AM > To: > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com' > Practice Chart > > > Dear > Group, > > > > This > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is > the chart > > > > 24th > Feb 1979 > > 4:10 AM > > 28N40 > > 77E13 > > > > From > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > marry. I am not clear from her posts > that if she married the same guy or not. > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > If this > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > 1) > Marriage > > 2) > Child birth > > 3) > Marital Relations overall > > 4) > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > asked if she should go for divorce. > > 5) > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > Degrees > > > > > As > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > Su > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > Mo > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > Ma > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > Me > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > Ju > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > Ve > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > Sa > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > Ra > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > Ke > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Dear Devi singh ji, In response to your first part of question,yes you are right and in line what you have written.This you could also go through KAS VISUALS Secondly 1:7 ratio should also be considered in navamsa. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 26/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajputRe: Re: Practice Chart--samdharmi query Date: Thursday, 26 November, 2009, 5:32 PM Dear Anup Ji,Thanks for your kindness.... ........I am sorry but i have no intelligence( no any St sector)!!!.. .."planet is samdharmi to Nakshatra lord"Should we consider nakshatra lord Ra/Ke??E.g. ---Ra is in Leo and Ketu nakshatra and Ke is in aquarious and Ra nakshatraMo is in Ra nakshatra .........Mo is samdharmi to Sun?If above is yes then Should we consider nesting here??e.g. Mo in Ra Nakshatra and Ra in Ketu and Ketu in Ra........I am now much better in natural samdharmi only 1 question.... .."Natural samdharmi Cease to become natural samdharmi if making 1:7"Should we look 1:7 in navamsa as well ?? i think we should check this in rashi only same as 4:10Looking Forward------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, Good to see you asking these basic questions. Do not get confused and understand this concept the way origionally intended.Like in the example you quoted here,first read the former line that if two planets are samdharmi to another planet,then they will act accordingly in the sequence from the highest level to the lowest level of strength (as given there from point 1 to 4 ). In navamsa,a planet will be having one way relation only and will be samdharmi to navamsa lord and navamsa lord will not be samdharmi to any planet residing in it. Coming to your repeated question of Caps,this is nothing but using bold or capital letters for accentuating/ emphasising your meaning. Your understanding about Mo being samdharmi to Ma is correct. In similar way,Sun can step in for Ma and vicaversa. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 24/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart--samdharmi queryastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comTuesday, 24 November, 2009, 2:25 PM Dear Anup Ji,Thanks for your answers..... ...This will definitely helps much to clear my doubts.In lesson 25 --rule 5th for functional samdharmi --this seems confusing to me and i came to some questions as below.Part of text is as below."Suppose Planet P is in the same sign as Planet R in the rasi chart below and Q is in the same Navamsha sign as R is in the rasi chart. (see figure 1). Here we can say that planets P and Q are BOTH Samdharmi to Planet R "My understanding is as below.---planet Q will be samdharmi to navamsa lord 1 way---P is samdharmi to R (2 way)----i guess they both are considered in same sign and same nakshatra as well??---Q is samdharmi to R---here is question on what basis/relation? ?is this 1way or 2 way??Still CAPS remains question to me....please provide full form?Please correct me on below viz considering natural samdharmi only---Mo antra can give results related to Ma---considering 1 way---Ma antra (if came first after delay over)can gives results for Su---Su antra (if came first after delay over)can gives results for Ma------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear devi singh ji, Please follow the link below. Regards Anup --- On Mon, 23/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart--samdharmi queryastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comMonday, 23 November, 2009, 3:58 PM Dear Anup ji,Please provide your clarification for below my understanding related to samdharmi?What is CAPS?....... is it another name same as KAS??"6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"My understanding about this rule is.........planets are samdharmi if are in same sign viz.....1 in rashi and 1 in navamsaThis is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi to each other 2 way THE SAMDHARMI RULES ARE SIMPLE.IN ABOVE CASE JU AND MARS CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER AS YOU WROTE.JU IS IN LEO IN RASI ( EVEN IF JU IS BETWEEN 26.40Deg -30 Deg IN LEO WHERE JU WILL BE IN NAKSHTRA OF SUN ) AND MARS IN LEO IN NAVAMSA.IN RASI,A PLANET CAN BE SAMDHARMI TO NAKSHATRA LORD ONLY AND NOT TO RASI LORD.SO JU IN LEO CAN BE SAMDHARMI EITHER TO KETU,OR VE OR SUN WHERE AS IN NAVAMSA MARS IS SAMDHARMI TO SUN BEING IN SUN NAVAMSA.DO NOT TAKE SUN AS COMMON FACTOR FOR BEING SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER. DO READ AGAIN,A PLANET CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO SIGN LORD. SOME OTHER PLACEMENTS CAN MAKE THEM FUNCTIONAL SAMDHARMI,NO DOUBT. "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"My understanding is Planet placed in House E/D with more then 5 bindu can come forward (can be samdharmi) to give result for its dipositor when gets chance.This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....LoD for 7th house is Ve........ and Ju in Ve sign with 5 bindu ....Ju can come forward to give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve JU AND VE CAN NOT VE SAMDHARMI BUT THEY BOTH WILL BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULT (AS IN THIS EXAMPLE) FOR 7TH AS WELL AS 11TH HOUSES.ANY PLANET PLACED IN A SIGN WITH MORE THAN 4 BINDUS WILL BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULT LIKE SIGN LORD,SO THEY BOTH WORKING FOR A COMMON CAUSE BUT CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER. HERE JU CAN BE SAMDHARMI TO VENUS ONLY ... 1] JU IS IN 4TH PLACE FROM VE WITH MORE BINDUS IN RASI 2] IF JU IS PLACED TOGETHER WITH VE IN ANY NAVAMSA SIGN. 3] OR IF JU IS IN VENUS NAVAMSA Natural Samdharmi questions"Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"My understanding is as belowMa and Mo making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Mo can not be boss so Ma will be boss .....Mo antra can be replaced by Ma...or Mo can come forward in its antra to give results for Ma........(Natural samdharmi)So it should be written as "Mo samdharmi to Ma.......... Mo can be replaced by Ma""Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES"My understanding is as belowSu and Ma making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Su will be boss .....Ma antra can be replaced by Su...or Ma can come forward in its antra to give results for Su........(Natural samdharmi)So it should be written as "Ma samdharmi to Su.......... Ma can be replaced by Su" MOON IS NATURAL SAMDHARMI TO MARS BUT FOR MOON,MARS CAN NOT BE NATURAL SAMDHARMI.SUN IS NATURAL SAMDHARMI FOR MARS.THIS RELATIONSHIP IS PURELY UNDER IDEAL CONDITIONS ONLY LIKE ON THE BASIS OF FIRST COME FIRST SERVE. P.S.Bhukti Sequence indicated at summary page of worksheet that created confusion above mentioned.------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghdevisigh wrote: Dear Bella Ji,Please Find my QUERY/REFERENCE to you answers in CAPTITAL------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghBPShiv wrote:  Dear Devi Singh ji, My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?----------CAPS MEANS??WHAT ANUP JI WRITTEN IN BELOW CHAIN "2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. ----------UNDERSTOO D"6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. ------NO AND BUT ......WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS NO IF LESS OR EQUAL 4 BINDU AS PER RASHI ...YES IF MORE THEN 4 BINDU FOR BOTH...IS IT THIS YOU WANT TO CONVEY?"8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi.-----SORRY TO SAY BUT THIS IS DOUBT FULL ......PLEASE REFER NOTES OF SUMMARY PAGE OF EXCEL SHEET AND ASH JI OLDER MESSAGE 2287 Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. ---NOT LIKE THAT NOT CONSIDERING 4:10 "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign NO. Ju is not SD to Su. In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?--WHAT IS PRESPECTIVE TO FIND NATURAL SAMDHARMI ....IS IT BHUKTI SEQUENCE?... .....OR 4:10 IN KAAL PURUSH......----IF CASE LOOKING 4:10 .....MA/MO AND MA/SU MAKES 4:10 ...AND MO/SU ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE BOSS SO MA BECOME BOSS ....AND SU/MO GIVES RESULTS OF MA IN THERE ANTRA IS IT CORRECT UNDERSTANDING? ? Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. Thank you, -Bella. - Anup. M astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear Devi singh ji, Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comThursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM Dear Anup ji,It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way.....Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?"2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi"8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve"9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign"Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, My understanding is as per CAPS below. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM Dear Anup ji,Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES All Planets in same nakshatra YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YESYes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionallyIn kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each otherSu samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YESMa samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comTuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM Dear All;Some more thoughts to fix antraSt full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial valueJu aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not goodno zero in SAV so no addition in delayBlessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delaySt is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delayMo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house eventsMo-MoMo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give eventBut I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be addedMo-MaJu and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmiJu and Ma both are natural samdharmiJu and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsaJu LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.Mo-RaRa represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to meMo-JuJu Can give Event in 3rd Sector on itwill come up with more thought as gets educated to this system------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghdevisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji,NamaskarSincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERSPlease find below is thought process/approach:I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification requiredQuality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HBBlessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another timeFinding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAsh's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisighThursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear All;My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only7th house marriage:selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th houseSu and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th houseother planets aspects 7th house i left themSu is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left thatJu having highest points and also LoEnow considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives resultsThinking for samdharmi of Juin navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghashsam73 wrote: Dear Nikhlesh ji,You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.Thanks Nikhlesh ji.The date should be May 24th.24th May 19794:10 AM28N4077E13Sorry about that.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. caastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:>> > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> Dear Ash ji,> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > Please confirm.> > Regards,> Nikhlesh Mathur> > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> >> > Add to> this.> > > 6) When> can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009> 12:18 AM> To:> 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'> Practice Chart> > > Dear> Group,> > > > This> lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is> the chart > > > > 24th> Feb 1979> > 4:10 AM> > 28N40> > 77E13> > > > From> what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> marry. I am not clear from her posts> that if she married the same guy or not.> Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > If this> chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > 1)> Marriage> > 2)> Child birth> > 3)> Marital Relations overall> > 4)> She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> asked if she should go for divorce.> > 5)> Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > Degrees> > > > > As> > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > Su> > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > Mo> > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > Ma> > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > Me> > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > Ju> > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > Ve> > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > Sa> > > 14 Le 35> > > > > Ra> > > 20 Le 59> > > > > Ke> > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Dear Anup ji, Samdharmi part is now much clear to me overall and in totallity with various examples what i can think of ....also Ash ji nice email cleared much. I want to contribute what i have learned everything related to samdharmi in nice Doc to cover much questions can anyone think of which can serve at ready reference to new comers to this part. Let me know to whom should i sent that to upload?? ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   In response to your first part of question,yes you are right and in line what you have written.This you could also go through KAS VISUALS   Secondly 1:7 ratio should also be considered in navamsa.    Regards Anup       --- On Thu, 26/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput > wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput > Re: Re: Practice Chart--samdharmi query Thursday, 26 November, 2009, 5:32 PM  Dear Anup Ji, Thanks for your kindness.... ........I am sorry but i have no intelligence( no any St sector)!!!.. .. "planet is samdharmi to Nakshatra lord" Should we consider nakshatra lord Ra/Ke?? E.g. ---Ra is in Leo and Ketu nakshatra and Ke is in aquarious and Ra nakshatra Mo is in Ra nakshatra .........Mo is samdharmi to Sun? If above is yes then Should we consider nesting here?? e.g. Mo in Ra Nakshatra and Ra in Ketu and Ketu in Ra........ I am now much better in natural samdharmi only 1 question.... .. "Natural samdharmi Cease to become natural samdharmi if making 1:7" Should we look 1:7 in navamsa as well ?? i think we should check this in rashi only same as 4:10 Looking Forward ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   Good to see you asking these basic questions.  Do not get confused and understand this concept the way origionally intended.Like in the example you quoted here,first read the former line that if two planets are samdharmi to another planet,then they will act accordingly in the sequence from the highest level to the lowest level of strength (as given there from point 1 to 4 ).   In navamsa,a planet will be having one way relation only and will be samdharmi to navamsa lord and navamsa lord will not be samdharmi to any planet residing in it.   Coming to your repeated question of Caps,this is nothing but using bold or capital letters for accentuating/ emphasising your meaning.   Your understanding about Mo being samdharmi to Ma is correct. In similar way,Sun can step in for Ma and vicaversa.   Regards Anup        --- On Tue, 24/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart--samdharmi query astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Tuesday, 24 November, 2009, 2:25 PM  Dear Anup Ji, Thanks for your answers..... ...This will definitely helps much to clear my doubts. In lesson 25 --rule 5th for functional samdharmi --this seems confusing to me and i came to some questions as below. Part of text is as below. "Suppose Planet P is in the same sign as Planet R in the rasi chart below and Q is in the same Navamsha sign as R is in the rasi chart. (see figure 1). Here we can say that planets P and Q are BOTH Samdharmi to Planet R " My understanding is as below. ---planet Q will be samdharmi to navamsa lord 1 way ---P is samdharmi to R (2 way)----i guess they both are considered in same sign and same nakshatra as well?? ---Q is samdharmi to R---here is question on what basis/relation? ?is this 1way or 2 way?? Still CAPS remains question to me....please provide full form? Please correct me on below viz considering natural samdharmi only ---Mo antra can give results related to Ma---considering 1 way ---Ma antra (if came first after delay over)can gives results for Su ---Su antra (if came first after delay over)can gives results for Ma ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear devi singh ji,   Please follow the link below.  Regards Anup  --- On Mon, 23/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart--samdharmi query astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Monday, 23 November, 2009, 3:58 PM  Dear Anup ji, Please provide your clarification for below my understanding related to samdharmi? What is CAPS?....... is it another name same as KAS?? "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" My understanding about this rule is.........planets are samdharmi if are in same sign viz.....1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi to each other 2 way  THE SAMDHARMI RULES ARE SIMPLE.IN ABOVE CASE JU AND MARS CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER AS YOU WROTE.JU IS IN LEO IN RASI ( EVEN IF JU IS BETWEEN 26.40Deg -30 Deg IN LEO WHERE JU WILL BE IN NAKSHTRA OF SUN ) AND MARS IN LEO IN NAVAMSA.IN RASI,A PLANET CAN BE SAMDHARMI TO NAKSHATRA LORD ONLY AND NOT TO RASI LORD.SO JU IN LEO CAN BE SAMDHARMI EITHER TO KETU,OR VE OR SUN WHERE AS IN NAVAMSA MARS IS SAMDHARMI TO SUN BEING IN SUN NAVAMSA.DO NOT TAKE SUN AS COMMON FACTOR FOR BEING SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER.   DO READ AGAIN,A PLANET CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO SIGN LORD.  SOME OTHER PLACEMENTS CAN MAKE THEM FUNCTIONAL SAMDHARMI,NO DOUBT. "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" My understanding is Planet placed in House E/D with more then 5 bindu can come forward (can be samdharmi) to give result for its dipositor when gets chance. This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....LoD for 7th house is Ve........ and Ju in Ve sign with 5 bindu .....Ju can come forward to give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve  JU AND VE CAN NOT VE SAMDHARMI BUT THEY BOTH WILL BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULT (AS IN THIS EXAMPLE) FOR 7TH AS WELL AS 11TH HOUSES.ANY PLANET PLACED IN A SIGN WITH MORE THAN 4 BINDUS WILL BE EAGER TO GIVE RESULT LIKE SIGN LORD,SO THEY BOTH WORKING FOR A COMMON CAUSE BUT CAN NOT BE SAMDHARMI TO EACH OTHER.  HERE JU CAN BE SAMDHARMI TO VENUS ONLY ...  1] JU IS IN 4TH PLACE FROM VE WITH MORE BINDUS IN RASI 2]  IF JU IS PLACED TOGETHER WITH VE IN ANY NAVAMSA SIGN. 3] OR IF JU IS IN VENUS NAVAMSA Natural Samdharmi questions "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" My understanding is as below Ma and Mo making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Mo can not be boss so Ma will be boss ......Mo antra can be replaced by Ma...or Mo can come forward in its antra to give results for Ma........(Natural samdharmi) So it should be written as "Mo samdharmi to Ma.......... Mo can be replaced by Ma" "Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma           YES" My understanding is as below Su and Ma making 4:10 in kalpurush chart so both are samdharmi to each other (2 way)....however i think Su will be boss .....Ma antra can be replaced by Su...or Ma can come forward in its antra to give results for Su........(Natural samdharmi) So it should be written as "Ma samdharmi to Su.......... Ma can be replaced by Su"  MOON IS NATURAL SAMDHARMI TO MARS BUT FOR MOON,MARS CAN NOT BE NATURAL SAMDHARMI.SUN IS NATURAL SAMDHARMI FOR MARS.THIS RELATIONSHIP IS PURELY UNDER IDEAL CONDITIONS ONLY LIKE ON THE BASIS OF FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.  P.S.Bhukti Sequence indicated at summary page of worksheet that created confusion above mentioned. ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Bella Ji, Please Find my QUERY/REFERENCE to you answers in CAPTITAL ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh BPShiv wrote:   Dear Devi Singh ji, My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening.   Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? ----------CAPS MEANS??WHAT ANUP JI WRITTEN IN BELOW CHAIN "2.All Planets cojoin in sign   NO" By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. ----------UNDERSTOO D "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. ------NO AND BUT .......WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS NO IF LESS OR EQUAL 4 BINDU AS PER RASHI ....YES IF MORE THEN 4 BINDU FOR BOTH...IS IT THIS YOU WANT TO CONVEY? "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. -----SORRY TO SAY BUT THIS IS DOUBT FULL ......PLEASE REFER NOTES OF SUMMARY PAGE OF EXCEL SHEET AND ASH JI OLDER MESSAGE 2287 Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. ---NOT LIKE THAT NOT CONSIDERING 4:10 "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO" This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign NO. Ju is not SD to Su.  In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? --WHAT IS PRESPECTIVE TO FIND NATURAL SAMDHARMI ....IS IT BHUKTI SEQUENCE?... .....OR 4:10 IN KAAL PURUSH...... ----IF CASE LOOKING 4:10 .....MA/MO AND MA/SU MAKES 4:10 ...AND MO/SU ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE BOSS SO MA BECOME BOSS ....AND SU/MO GIVES RESULTS OF MA IN THERE ANTRA IS IT CORRECT UNDERSTANDING? ? Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications.  Thank you, -Bella.    ----- Original Message ----- Anup. M To: astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart  Dear Devi singh ji,   Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions.   Regards Anup  --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM  Dear Anup ji, It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? "2.All Planets cojoin in sign   NO" By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO" This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   My understanding is as per CAPS below.  Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM  Dear Anup ji, Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign   NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign  YES All Planets in same nakshatra   YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa   YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign     YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa    YES Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma           YES Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail  Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.  Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.   Regards Anup  --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM  Dear All; Some more thoughts to fix antra St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good no zero in SAV so no addition in delay Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events Mo-Mo Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added Mo-Ma Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. Mo-Ra Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me Mo-Ju Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji, Namaskar Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS Please find below is thought process/approach: I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required Quality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another time Finding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points .....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote:  Dear Devisingh ji,  Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of devisigh Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart  Dear All; My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only 7th house marriage: selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house other planets aspects 7th house i left them Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that Ju having highest points and also LoE now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results Thinking for samdharmi of Ju in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters ........still this takes time for me to finalize ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh ashsam73 wrote:  Dear Nikhlesh ji, You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. Thanks Nikhlesh ji. The date should be May 24th. 24th May 1979 4:10 AM 28N40 77E13 Sorry about that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > Dear Ash ji, > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > Please confirm. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > Add to > this. > > > 6) When > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009 > 12:18 AM > To: > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com' > Practice Chart > > > Dear > Group, > > > > This > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is > the chart > > > > 24th > Feb 1979 > > 4:10 AM > > 28N40 > > 77E13 > > > > From > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > marry. I am not clear from her posts > that if she married the same guy or not. > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > If this > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > 1) > Marriage > > 2) > Child birth > > 3) > Marital Relations overall > > 4) > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > asked if she should go for divorce. > > 5) > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > Degrees > > > > > As > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > Su > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > Mo > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > Ma > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > Me > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > Ju > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > Ve > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > Sa > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > Ra > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > Ke > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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