Exercise - Kendrapati dosha - Explain using KAS

[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

 

I came acoss some chats around Kendrapati Dosha and was not satisfied with the

answers. It reminded me that Guru ji had asked this question on the group as

well.

 

Since a lot of people now are more eager to learn KAS, and are beginning to get

a good grasp of the system, I would want you all to do this exercise to get the

deeper understanding and depth of KAS.

 

With the applicatin of the basic rules of KAS, you will see how everything falls

into place and exceptions also come out. The background reason and

understanding of the same is lost because of the absence of this system from

what is known today as Vedic Astrology.

 

Therefore, I want to take this exercise up. Again, I would suggest that you all

make a table and write your replies in an organized manner so that it can be

used by current members and also the members that will join the group in future.

So that way, all your efforts will be of great use to them.

 

What one misses can be their lessons learned.

 

Why are Benefics (here benefics are Su, Mo, Ve, Me and Ju) considered bad when

placed in Kendra considered a dosh or bad? What is the deeper meaning behind

this.

 

Let us have an organized discussion of the same

 

Step 1: Lets get emails to only address the first question.

 

Why would natural benefics as lords of kendra, being placed in kendras be

considred a dosh or bad?

 

Once we get the answer to that or settle on the answer after discussion. We

will start a discussion to Prove it scientifically so that we can get concrete

answer and also the exceptions if any will get seperated as well and you will

also have a CONCRETE and scientific reasoning for the same.

 

Step 2: We will draw a table giving EACH BENEFIC owning a lagna and place them

in different lagnas and then study the same. We can make a table for each

benefic. So we can take them 1 at a time and do an exhaustive study of the

same.

 

 

Most importantly you will start to get the technique that lies behind all the

yogs that are given in standard texts or atleast you will start to see and

understand things in a different light (light of KAS).

 

I hope that the aim of the exercise is clear and so are the objectives. Now

lets start the Analysis and then we will have a conclusion in an organized

manner.

 

I suggest all to read the mail and ONLY ANSWER TO QUESTION GIVEN IN STEP 1.

 

Please put the heading as Kedrapati dosha - Step 1 so that all mails for step 1

are organized properly.

 

When we move to step 2 we can put the title Kendrapati dosha - Step 2.

 

Good luck,

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

 

Please read " I came acoss some chats around Kendrapati Dosha and was not

satisfied with the answers "

 

as

 

" I came acoss some chats around Kendrapati Dosha and was not satisfied with the

answers as they were not very scientific "

 

Sorry about that.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Group,

>

> I came acoss some chats around Kendrapati Dosha and was not satisfied with the

answers. It reminded me that Guru ji had asked this question on the group as

well.

>

> Since a lot of people now are more eager to learn KAS, and are beginning to

get a good grasp of the system, I would want you all to do this exercise to get

the deeper understanding and depth of KAS.

>

> With the applicatin of the basic rules of KAS, you will see how everything

falls into place and exceptions also come out. The background reason and

understanding of the same is lost because of the absence of this system from

what is known today as Vedic Astrology.

>

> Therefore, I want to take this exercise up. Again, I would suggest that you

all make a table and write your replies in an organized manner so that it can be

used by current members and also the members that will join the group in future.

So that way, all your efforts will be of great use to them.

>

> What one misses can be their lessons learned.

>

> Why are Benefics (here benefics are Su, Mo, Ve, Me and Ju) considered bad when

placed in Kendra considered a dosh or bad? What is the deeper meaning behind

this.

>

> Let us have an organized discussion of the same

>

> Step 1: Lets get emails to only address the first question.

>

> Why would natural benefics as lords of kendra, being placed in kendras be

considred a dosh or bad?

>

> Once we get the answer to that or settle on the answer after discussion. We

will start a discussion to Prove it scientifically so that we can get concrete

answer and also the exceptions if any will get seperated as well and you will

also have a CONCRETE and scientific reasoning for the same.

>

> Step 2: We will draw a table giving EACH BENEFIC owning a lagna and place

them in different lagnas and then study the same. We can make a table for each

benefic. So we can take them 1 at a time and do an exhaustive study of the

same.

>

>

> Most importantly you will start to get the technique that lies behind all the

yogs that are given in standard texts or atleast you will start to see and

understand things in a different light (light of KAS).

>

> I hope that the aim of the exercise is clear and so are the objectives. Now

lets start the Analysis and then we will have a conclusion in an organized

manner.

>

> I suggest all to read the mail and ONLY ANSWER TO QUESTION GIVEN IN STEP 1.

>

> Please put the heading as Kedrapati dosha - Step 1 so that all mails for step

1 are organized properly.

>

> When we move to step 2 we can put the title Kendrapati dosha - Step 2.

>

> Good luck,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Ash ji and Group Members,

Benefics in Kendras are not good. Benefics usually get more than 4 points and

therefore their aspect will be malefic ie negative. All benefics Ve, Me, Mo, Su,

Ju have 7th aspect from their respective position. In a native's life the most

important is the life, and health ie 8th house as HoB, 3rd house as HoA, and

12th house as HoC. Now any benefics placed in Kendras, will not aspect these 3

houses and will be eager to give results for 8th house. Only Ju from being in

7th house a Kendra sthaana aspects 3rd house. But Ju being in 7th house which is

12th from 8th house can give bad result. Therefore all benefics in Kendras give

bad results.

Ju in any house will aspect 5th house from itself. That means when Ju is placed

in Kendras (HoB), from its position Ju will aspect HoC and will not give results

for HoB unless it also happens to be the LoD/LoE.

We can easily say that Benefics in Kendras are not good and that is what is

meant by Kendadhipati Dosha.

Thanks

Prabha

 

 

, " ashsam73 " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Group,

>

> I came acoss some chats around Kendrapati Dosha and was not satisfied with the

answers. It reminded me that Guru ji had asked this question on the group as

well.

>

> Since a lot of people now are more eager to learn KAS, and are beginning to

get a good grasp of the system, I would want you all to do this exercise to get

the deeper understanding and depth of KAS.

>

> With the applicatin of the basic rules of KAS, you will see how everything

falls into place and exceptions also come out. The background reason and

understanding of the same is lost because of the absence of this system from

what is known today as Vedic Astrology.

>

> Therefore, I want to take this exercise up. Again, I would suggest that you

all make a table and write your replies in an organized manner so that it can be

used by current members and also the members that will join the group in future.

So that way, all your efforts will be of great use to them.

>

> What one misses can be their lessons learned.

>

> Why are Benefics (here benefics are Su, Mo, Ve, Me and Ju) considered bad when

placed in Kendra considered a dosh or bad? What is the deeper meaning behind

this.

>

> Let us have an organized discussion of the same

>

> Step 1: Lets get emails to only address the first question.

>

> Why would natural benefics as lords of kendra, being placed in kendras be

considred a dosh or bad?

>

> Once we get the answer to that or settle on the answer after discussion. We

will start a discussion to Prove it scientifically so that we can get concrete

answer and also the exceptions if any will get seperated as well and you will

also have a CONCRETE and scientific reasoning for the same.

>

> Step 2: We will draw a table giving EACH BENEFIC owning a lagna and place

them in different lagnas and then study the same. We can make a table for each

benefic. So we can take them 1 at a time and do an exhaustive study of the

same.

>

>

> Most importantly you will start to get the technique that lies behind all the

yogs that are given in standard texts or atleast you will start to see and

understand things in a different light (light of KAS).

>

> I hope that the aim of the exercise is clear and so are the objectives. Now

lets start the Analysis and then we will have a conclusion in an organized

manner.

>

> I suggest all to read the mail and ONLY ANSWER TO QUESTION GIVEN IN STEP 1.

>

> Please put the heading as Kedrapati dosha - Step 1 so that all mails for step

1 are organized properly.

>

> When we move to step 2 we can put the title Kendrapati dosha - Step 2.

>

> Good luck,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Prabha Ji,

 

After reading some questions came in my mind as below

--however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as same can be

applied for all planets they could be benific or malafic as far as

aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give results.

--Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

--by looking points owned by planets are as under

48 Sun

49 Moon

54 Mercury

56 Jupiter

52 Venus

39 Mars

39 Saturn

-- Ma and St are below average and other are on average 48 ...in case

more than 4 points probability would be 12*5=60,hence only Ju seems

near to this

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

 

prabha wrote:

 

 

Respected Ash ji and Group Members,

Benefics in Kendras are not good. Benefics usually get more than 4

points and therefore their aspect will be malefic ie negative. All

benefics Ve, Me, Mo, Su, Ju have 7th aspect from their respective

position. In a native's life the most important is the life, and health

ie 8th house as HoB, 3rd house as HoA, and 12th house as HoC. Now any

benefics placed in Kendras, will not aspect these 3 houses and will be

eager to give results for 8th house. Only Ju from being in 7th house a

Kendra sthaana aspects 3rd house. But Ju being in 7th house which is

12th from 8th house can give bad result. Therefore all benefics in

Kendras give bad results.

Ju in any house will aspect 5th house from itself. That means when Ju

is placed in Kendras (HoB), from its position Ju will aspect HoC and

will not give results for HoB unless it also happens to be the LoD/LoE.

We can easily say that Benefics in Kendras are not good and that is

what is meant by Kendadhipati Dosha.

Thanks

Prabha

 

 

,

"ashsam73" <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Group,

>

> I came acoss some chats around Kendrapati Dosha and was not

satisfied with the answers. It reminded me that Guru ji had asked this

question on the group as well.

>

> Since a lot of people now are more eager to learn KAS, and are

beginning to get a good grasp of the system, I would want you all to do

this exercise to get the deeper understanding and depth of KAS.

>

> With the applicatin of the basic rules of KAS, you will see how

everything falls into place and exceptions also come out. The

background reason and understanding of the same is lost because of the

absence of this system from what is known today as Vedic Astrology.

>

> Therefore, I want to take this exercise up. Again, I would suggest

that you all make a table and write your replies in an organized manner

so that it can be used by current members and also the members that

will join the group in future. So that way, all your efforts will be of

great use to them.

>

> What one misses can be their lessons learned.

>

> Why are Benefics (here benefics are Su, Mo, Ve, Me and Ju)

considered bad when placed in Kendra considered a dosh or bad? What is

the deeper meaning behind this.

>

> Let us have an organized discussion of the same

>

> Step 1: Lets get emails to only address the first question.

>

> Why would natural benefics as lords of kendra, being placed in

kendras be considred a dosh or bad?

>

> Once we get the answer to that or settle on the answer after

discussion. We will start a discussion to Prove it scientifically so

that we can get concrete answer and also the exceptions if any will get

seperated as well and you will also have a CONCRETE and scientific

reasoning for the same.

>

> Step 2: We will draw a table giving EACH BENEFIC owning a lagna

and place them in different lagnas and then study the same. We can make

a table for each benefic. So we can take them 1 at a time and do an

exhaustive study of the same.

>

>

> Most importantly you will start to get the technique that lies

behind all the yogs that are given in standard texts or atleast you

will start to see and understand things in a different light (light of

KAS).

>

> I hope that the aim of the exercise is clear and so are the

objectives. Now lets start the Analysis and then we will have a

conclusion in an organized manner.

>

> I suggest all to read the mail and ONLY ANSWER TO QUESTION GIVEN

IN STEP 1.

>

> Please put the heading as Kedrapati dosha - Step 1 so that all

mails for step 1 are organized properly.

>

> When we move to step 2 we can put the title Kendrapati dosha -

Step 2.

>

> Good luck,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Devi Singh ji

--however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as same can be applied

for all planets they could be benific or malefic as far as aspect is concern

they are not aspecting so can give results.

Ans) Yes all planets in Kendras when not aspecting ABC houses can give results

irrespective of them being Natural Benefic or Malefic. Kendras are what we term

as a very good position(in VA they are supposed to be Narayan Sthaanas). So when

Benefics are placed in such good position, should give very good results. But

they do not give good results. A malefic in good position will give bad results

as that is its characteristics.

 

--Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in 12th from HoD(5th house).

 

The last question of yours I didnt understand.

Thanks

Prabha

, devisigh <devisingh.rajput

wrote:

>

> Dear Prabha Ji,

>

> After reading some questions came in my mind as below

> --however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as same can be

> applied for all planets they could be benific or malafic as far as

> aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give results.

> --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

> --by looking points owned by planets are as under

> 48 Sun

> 49 Moon

> 54 Mercury

> 56 Jupiter

> 52 Venus

> 39 Mars

> 39 Saturn

> -- Ma and St are below average and other are on average 48 ...in case

> more than 4 points probability would be 12*5=60,hence only Ju seems near

> to this

> ------------------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> prabha wrote:

> >

> >

> > Respected Ash ji and Group Members,

> > Benefics in Kendras are not good. Benefics usually get more than 4

> > points and therefore their aspect will be malefic ie negative. All

> > benefics Ve, Me, Mo, Su, Ju have 7th aspect from their respective

> > position. In a native's life the most important is the life, and

> > health ie 8th house as HoB, 3rd house as HoA, and 12th house as HoC.

> > Now any benefics placed in Kendras, will not aspect these 3 houses and

> > will be eager to give results for 8th house. Only Ju from being in 7th

> > house a Kendra sthaana aspects 3rd house. But Ju being in 7th house

> > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad result. Therefore all

> > benefics in Kendras give bad results.

> > Ju in any house will aspect 5th house from itself. That means when Ju

> > is placed in Kendras (HoB), from its position Ju will aspect HoC and

> > will not give results for HoB unless it also happens to be the LoD/LoE.

> > We can easily say that Benefics in Kendras are not good and that is

> > what is meant by Kendadhipati Dosha.

> > Thanks

> > Prabha

> >

> >

> >

> > <%40>, " ashsam73 "

> > <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > I came acoss some chats around Kendrapati Dosha and was not

> > satisfied with the answers. It reminded me that Guru ji had asked this

> > question on the group as well.

> > >

> > > Since a lot of people now are more eager to learn KAS, and are

> > beginning to get a good grasp of the system, I would want you all to

> > do this exercise to get the deeper understanding and depth of KAS.

> > >

> > > With the applicatin of the basic rules of KAS, you will see how

> > everything falls into place and exceptions also come out. The

> > background reason and understanding of the same is lost because of the

> > absence of this system from what is known today as Vedic Astrology.

> > >

> > > Therefore, I want to take this exercise up. Again, I would suggest

> > that you all make a table and write your replies in an organized

> > manner so that it can be used by current members and also the members

> > that will join the group in future. So that way, all your efforts will

> > be of great use to them.

> > >

> > > What one misses can be their lessons learned.

> > >

> > > Why are Benefics (here benefics are Su, Mo, Ve, Me and Ju)

> > considered bad when placed in Kendra considered a dosh or bad? What is

> > the deeper meaning behind this.

> > >

> > > Let us have an organized discussion of the same

> > >

> > > Step 1: Lets get emails to only address the first question.

> > >

> > > Why would natural benefics as lords of kendra, being placed in

> > kendras be considred a dosh or bad?

> > >

> > > Once we get the answer to that or settle on the answer after

> > discussion. We will start a discussion to Prove it scientifically so

> > that we can get concrete answer and also the exceptions if any will

> > get seperated as well and you will also have a CONCRETE and scientific

> > reasoning for the same.

> > >

> > > Step 2: We will draw a table giving EACH BENEFIC owning a lagna and

> > place them in different lagnas and then study the same. We can make a

> > table for each benefic. So we can take them 1 at a time and do an

> > exhaustive study of the same.

> > >

> > >

> > > Most importantly you will start to get the technique that lies

> > behind all the yogs that are given in standard texts or atleast you

> > will start to see and understand things in a different light (light of

> > KAS).

> > >

> > > I hope that the aim of the exercise is clear and so are the

> > objectives. Now lets start the Analysis and then we will have a

> > conclusion in an organized manner.

> > >

> > > I suggest all to read the mail and ONLY ANSWER TO QUESTION GIVEN IN

> > STEP 1.

> > >

> > > Please put the heading as Kedrapati dosha - Step 1 so that all mails

> > for step 1 are organized properly.

> > >

> > > When we move to step 2 we can put the title Kendrapati dosha - Step 2.

> > >

> > > Good luck,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca>

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Prabha Ji,

 

I was trying to put reasoning that tells.... that except Ju all other

planets may not have more than 4 bindu in all 12 signs so probability

is low for same

and what logic for benific same can also be applied for malafic as well

so it seems that some thing is accepted without exception...i guess

something a scientific point is missing still.....

 

"But Ju being in 7th house

> > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad result"

 

"--Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in 12th from HoD(5th

house).

 

I was trying to tell that Ju aspects Hoc when consider 8 as HB so

generally it can not give result for 8th house so death can not be

expected here....

 

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

 

prabha wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Devi Singh ji

--however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as same can be

applied for all planets they could be benific or malefic as far as

aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give results.

Ans) Yes all planets in Kendras when not aspecting ABC houses can give

results irrespective of them being Natural Benefic or Malefic. Kendras

are what we term as a very good position(in VA they are supposed to be

Narayan Sthaanas). So when Benefics are placed in such good position,

should give very good results. But they do not give good results. A

malefic in good position will give bad results as that is its

characteristics.

 

--Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in 12th from HoD(5th

house).

 

The last question of yours I didnt understand.

Thanks

Prabha

,

devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:

>

> Dear Prabha Ji,

>

> After reading some questions came in my mind as below

> --however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as same

can be

> applied for all planets they could be benific or malafic as far as

 

> aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give results.

> --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

> --by looking points owned by planets are as under

> 48 Sun

> 49 Moon

> 54 Mercury

> 56 Jupiter

> 52 Venus

> 39 Mars

> 39 Saturn

> -- Ma and St are below average and other are on average 48 ...in

case

> more than 4 points probability would be 12*5=60,hence only Ju

seems near

> to this

> ------------------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> prabha wrote:

> >

> >

> > Respected Ash ji and Group Members,

> > Benefics in Kendras are not good. Benefics usually get more

than 4

> > points and therefore their aspect will be malefic ie

negative. All

> > benefics Ve, Me, Mo, Su, Ju have 7th aspect from their

respective

> > position. In a native's life the most important is the life,

and

> > health ie 8th house as HoB, 3rd house as HoA, and 12th house

as HoC.

> > Now any benefics placed in Kendras, will not aspect these 3

houses and

> > will be eager to give results for 8th house. Only Ju from

being in 7th

> > house a Kendra sthaana aspects 3rd house. But Ju being in 7th

house

> > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad result. Therefore

all

> > benefics in Kendras give bad results.

> > Ju in any house will aspect 5th house from itself. That means

when Ju

> > is placed in Kendras (HoB), from its position Ju will aspect

HoC and

> > will not give results for HoB unless it also happens to be

the LoD/LoE.

> > We can easily say that Benefics in Kendras are not good and

that is

> > what is meant by Kendadhipati Dosha.

> > Thanks

> > Prabha

> >

> >

> >

 

> > <%40>,

"ashsam73"

> > <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > I came acoss some chats around Kendrapati Dosha and was

not

> > satisfied with the answers. It reminded me that Guru ji had

asked this

> > question on the group as well.

> > >

> > > Since a lot of people now are more eager to learn KAS,

and are

> > beginning to get a good grasp of the system, I would want you

all to

> > do this exercise to get the deeper understanding and depth of

KAS.

> > >

> > > With the applicatin of the basic rules of KAS, you will

see how

> > everything falls into place and exceptions also come out. The

 

> > background reason and understanding of the same is lost

because of the

> > absence of this system from what is known today as Vedic

Astrology.

> > >

> > > Therefore, I want to take this exercise up. Again, I

would suggest

> > that you all make a table and write your replies in an

organized

> > manner so that it can be used by current members and also the

members

> > that will join the group in future. So that way, all your

efforts will

> > be of great use to them.

> > >

> > > What one misses can be their lessons learned.

> > >

> > > Why are Benefics (here benefics are Su, Mo, Ve, Me and

Ju)

> > considered bad when placed in Kendra considered a dosh or

bad? What is

> > the deeper meaning behind this.

> > >

> > > Let us have an organized discussion of the same

> > >

> > > Step 1: Lets get emails to only address the first

question.

> > >

> > > Why would natural benefics as lords of kendra, being

placed in

> > kendras be considred a dosh or bad?

> > >

> > > Once we get the answer to that or settle on the answer

after

> > discussion. We will start a discussion to Prove it

scientifically so

> > that we can get concrete answer and also the exceptions if

any will

> > get seperated as well and you will also have a CONCRETE and

scientific

> > reasoning for the same.

> > >

> > > Step 2: We will draw a table giving EACH BENEFIC owning

a lagna and

> > place them in different lagnas and then study the same. We

can make a

> > table for each benefic. So we can take them 1 at a time and

do an

> > exhaustive study of the same.

> > >

> > >

> > > Most importantly you will start to get the technique

that lies

> > behind all the yogs that are given in standard texts or

atleast you

> > will start to see and understand things in a different light

(light of

> > KAS).

> > >

> > > I hope that the aim of the exercise is clear and so are

the

> > objectives. Now lets start the Analysis and then we will have

a

> > conclusion in an organized manner.

> > >

> > > I suggest all to read the mail and ONLY ANSWER TO

QUESTION GIVEN IN

> > STEP 1.

> > >

> > > Please put the heading as Kedrapati dosha - Step 1 so

that all mails

> > for step 1 are organized properly.

> > >

> > > When we move to step 2 we can put the title Kendrapati

dosha - Step 2.

> > >

> > > Good luck,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca>

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Devi Singhji

Ju being in 4th house, aspects HoC when we take 6th house as HoB. This being the

case, Ju with more points in 4th house reduces its power for 6th house (Please

check WS for 6th house). That means Ju gives bad result for 6th house like

diseases, debts, slow recovery from illness, etc. Similarly, for 8th house Ju

gives bad results when placed in 4th house. And for 8th house too, Ju in 4th

house aspects HoB, HoC - thus reducing its points in WS for 8th house. Yes Ju

cant give death and death is a good event for a native.

Thanks

Prabha

 

, devisigh <devisingh.rajput

wrote:

>

> Thanks Prabha Ji,

>

> I was trying to put reasoning that tells.... that except Ju all other

> planets may not have more than 4 bindu in all 12 signs so probability is

> low for same

> and what logic for benific same can also be applied for malafic as well

> so it seems that some thing is accepted without exception...i guess

> something a scientific point is missing still.....

>

> " But Ju being in 7th house

> > > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad result "

>

> " --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

> Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in 12th from HoD(5th

> house).

>

> I was trying to tell that Ju aspects Hoc when consider 8 as HB so

> generally it can not give result for 8th house so death can not be

> expected here....

>

> ------------------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> prabha wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Devi Singh ji

> > --however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as same can

> > be applied for all planets they could be benific or malefic as far as

> > aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give results.

> > Ans) Yes all planets in Kendras when not aspecting ABC houses can give

> > results irrespective of them being Natural Benefic or Malefic. Kendras

> > are what we term as a very good position(in VA they are supposed to be

> > Narayan Sthaanas). So when Benefics are placed in such good position,

> > should give very good results. But they do not give good results. A

> > malefic in good position will give bad results as that is its

> > characteristics.

> >

> > --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

> > Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in 12th from HoD(5th

> > house).

> >

> > The last question of yours I didnt understand.

> > Thanks

> > Prabha

> >

> > <%40>, devisigh

> > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Prabha Ji,

> > >

> > > After reading some questions came in my mind as below

> > > --however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as same can be

> > > applied for all planets they could be benific or malafic as far as

> > > aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give results.

> > > --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

> > > --by looking points owned by planets are as under

> > > 48 Sun

> > > 49 Moon

> > > 54 Mercury

> > > 56 Jupiter

> > > 52 Venus

> > > 39 Mars

> > > 39 Saturn

> > > -- Ma and St are below average and other are on average 48 ...in case

> > > more than 4 points probability would be 12*5=60,hence only Ju seems

> > near

> > > to this

> > > ------------------

> > > Regards,

> > > Devisingh

> > >

> > > prabha wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Ash ji and Group Members,

> > > > Benefics in Kendras are not good. Benefics usually get more than 4

> > > > points and therefore their aspect will be malefic ie negative. All

> > > > benefics Ve, Me, Mo, Su, Ju have 7th aspect from their respective

> > > > position. In a native's life the most important is the life, and

> > > > health ie 8th house as HoB, 3rd house as HoA, and 12th house as HoC.

> > > > Now any benefics placed in Kendras, will not aspect these 3 houses

> > and

> > > > will be eager to give results for 8th house. Only Ju from being in

> > 7th

> > > > house a Kendra sthaana aspects 3rd house. But Ju being in 7th house

> > > > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad result. Therefore all

> > > > benefics in Kendras give bad results.

> > > > Ju in any house will aspect 5th house from itself. That means when Ju

> > > > is placed in Kendras (HoB), from its position Ju will aspect HoC and

> > > > will not give results for HoB unless it also happens to be the

> > LoD/LoE.

> > > > We can easily say that Benefics in Kendras are not good and that is

> > > > what is meant by Kendadhipati Dosha.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Prabha

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, " ashsam73 "

> > > > <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > >

> > > > > I came acoss some chats around Kendrapati Dosha and was not

> > > > satisfied with the answers. It reminded me that Guru ji had asked

> > this

> > > > question on the group as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since a lot of people now are more eager to learn KAS, and are

> > > > beginning to get a good grasp of the system, I would want you all to

> > > > do this exercise to get the deeper understanding and depth of KAS.

> > > > >

> > > > > With the applicatin of the basic rules of KAS, you will see how

> > > > everything falls into place and exceptions also come out. The

> > > > background reason and understanding of the same is lost because of

> > the

> > > > absence of this system from what is known today as Vedic Astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore, I want to take this exercise up. Again, I would suggest

> > > > that you all make a table and write your replies in an organized

> > > > manner so that it can be used by current members and also the members

> > > > that will join the group in future. So that way, all your efforts

> > will

> > > > be of great use to them.

> > > > >

> > > > > What one misses can be their lessons learned.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why are Benefics (here benefics are Su, Mo, Ve, Me and Ju)

> > > > considered bad when placed in Kendra considered a dosh or bad?

> > What is

> > > > the deeper meaning behind this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Let us have an organized discussion of the same

> > > > >

> > > > > Step 1: Lets get emails to only address the first question.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why would natural benefics as lords of kendra, being placed in

> > > > kendras be considred a dosh or bad?

> > > > >

> > > > > Once we get the answer to that or settle on the answer after

> > > > discussion. We will start a discussion to Prove it scientifically so

> > > > that we can get concrete answer and also the exceptions if any will

> > > > get seperated as well and you will also have a CONCRETE and

> > scientific

> > > > reasoning for the same.

> > > > >

> > > > > Step 2: We will draw a table giving EACH BENEFIC owning a lagna and

> > > > place them in different lagnas and then study the same. We can make a

> > > > table for each benefic. So we can take them 1 at a time and do an

> > > > exhaustive study of the same.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Most importantly you will start to get the technique that lies

> > > > behind all the yogs that are given in standard texts or atleast you

> > > > will start to see and understand things in a different light

> > (light of

> > > > KAS).

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope that the aim of the exercise is clear and so are the

> > > > objectives. Now lets start the Analysis and then we will have a

> > > > conclusion in an organized manner.

> > > > >

> > > > > I suggest all to read the mail and ONLY ANSWER TO QUESTION GIVEN IN

> > > > STEP 1.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please put the heading as Kedrapati dosha - Step 1 so that all

> > mails

> > > > for step 1 are organized properly.

> > > > >

> > > > > When we move to step 2 we can put the title Kendrapati dosha -

> > Step 2.

> > > > >

> > > > > Good luck,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca>>

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Group,

 

 

Members can also find some useful tips regarding this

in Krushna's FAQ Corner/Benefic Planets under point 3.

 

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

--- On Sun, 20/12/09, prabha <prabha.acharya wrote:

prabha <prabha.acharya Re: Exercise - Kendrapati dosha - Explain using KAS Date: Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 10:15 AM

Dear Devi SinghjiJu being in 4th house, aspects HoC when we take 6th house as HoB. This being the case, Ju with more points in 4th house reduces its power for 6th house (Please check WS for 6th house). That means Ju gives bad result for 6th house like diseases, debts, slow recovery from illness, etc. Similarly, for 8th house Ju gives bad results when placed in 4th house. And for 8th house too, Ju in 4th house aspects HoB, HoC - thus reducing its points in WS for 8th house. Yes Ju cant give death and death is a good event for a native.ThanksPrabhaastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ ...> wrote:>> Thanks Prabha Ji,> > I was trying to put reasoning that tells.... that

except Ju all other > planets may not have more than 4 bindu in all 12 signs so probability is > low for same> and what logic for benific same can also be applied for malafic as well > so it seems that some thing is accepted without exception... i guess > something a scientific point is missing still.....> > "But Ju being in 7th house> > > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad result"> > "--Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.> Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in 12th from HoD(5th > house).> > I was trying to tell that Ju aspects Hoc when consider 8 as HB so > generally it can not give result for 8th house so death can not be > expected here....> > ------------ ------> Regards,> Devisingh> > prabha wrote:> > > >> >>

>> > Dear Devi Singh ji> > --however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as same can > > be applied for all planets they could be benific or malefic as far as > > aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give results.> > Ans) Yes all planets in Kendras when not aspecting ABC houses can give > > results irrespective of them being Natural Benefic or Malefic. Kendras > > are what we term as a very good position(in VA they are supposed to be > > Narayan Sthaanas). So when Benefics are placed in such good position, > > should give very good results. But they do not give good results. A > > malefic in good position will give bad results as that is its > > characteristics.> >> > --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.> > Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in 12th from

HoD(5th > > house).> >> > The last question of yours I didnt understand.> > Thanks> > Prabha> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com>, devisigh > > <devisingh.rajput@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Prabha Ji,> > >> > > After reading some questions came in my mind as below> > > --however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as same can be> > > applied for all planets they could be benific or malafic as far as> > > aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give results.> > > --Ju in 4th aspects 12

as well which is HoC for 8th house.> > > --by looking points owned by planets are as under> > > 48 Sun> > > 49 Moon> > > 54 Mercury> > > 56 Jupiter> > > 52 Venus> > > 39 Mars> > > 39 Saturn> > > -- Ma and St are below average and other are on average 48 ...in case> > > more than 4 points probability would be 12*5=60,hence only Ju seems > > near> > > to this> > > ------------ ------> > > Regards,> > > Devisingh> > >> > > prabha wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Respected Ash ji and Group Members,> > > > Benefics in Kendras are not good. Benefics usually get more than 4> > > > points and therefore their aspect will be malefic ie negative. All> > > >

benefics Ve, Me, Mo, Su, Ju have 7th aspect from their respective> > > > position. In a native's life the most important is the life, and> > > > health ie 8th house as HoB, 3rd house as HoA, and 12th house as HoC.> > > > Now any benefics placed in Kendras, will not aspect these 3 houses > > and> > > > will be eager to give results for 8th house. Only Ju from being in > > 7th> > > > house a Kendra sthaana aspects 3rd house. But Ju being in 7th house> > > > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad result. Therefore all> > > > benefics in Kendras give bad results.> > > > Ju in any house will aspect 5th house from itself. That means when Ju> > > > is placed in Kendras (HoB), from its position Ju will aspect HoC and> > > > will not give results for HoB unless it also happens to be

the > > LoD/LoE.> > > > We can easily say that Benefics in Kendras are not good and that is> > > > what is meant by Kendadhipati Dosha.> > > > Thanks> > > > Prabha> > > >> > > >> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com>> > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com>, "ashsam73"> > > > <kas@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Group,> > > > >> > > > > I came acoss some chats around Kendrapati Dosha and was not> > > >

satisfied with the answers. It reminded me that Guru ji had asked > > this> > > > question on the group as well.> > > > >> > > > > Since a lot of people now are more eager to learn KAS, and are> > > > beginning to get a good grasp of the system, I would want you all to> > > > do this exercise to get the deeper understanding and depth of KAS.> > > > >> > > > > With the applicatin of the basic rules of KAS, you will see how> > > > everything falls into place and exceptions also come out. The> > > > background reason and understanding of the same is lost because of > > the> > > > absence of this system from what is known today as Vedic Astrology.> > > > >> > > > > Therefore, I want to take this exercise up. Again, I would

suggest> > > > that you all make a table and write your replies in an organized> > > > manner so that it can be used by current members and also the members> > > > that will join the group in future. So that way, all your efforts > > will> > > > be of great use to them.> > > > >> > > > > What one misses can be their lessons learned.> > > > >> > > > > Why are Benefics (here benefics are Su, Mo, Ve, Me and Ju)> > > > considered bad when placed in Kendra considered a dosh or bad? > > What is> > > > the deeper meaning behind this.> > > > >> > > > > Let us have an organized discussion of the same> > > > >> > > > > Step 1: Lets get emails to only address the first question.> > > >

>> > > > > Why would natural benefics as lords of kendra, being placed in> > > > kendras be considred a dosh or bad?> > > > >> > > > > Once we get the answer to that or settle on the answer after> > > > discussion. We will start a discussion to Prove it scientifically so> > > > that we can get concrete answer and also the exceptions if any will> > > > get seperated as well and you will also have a CONCRETE and > > scientific> > > > reasoning for the same.> > > > >> > > > > Step 2: We will draw a table giving EACH BENEFIC owning a lagna and> > > > place them in different lagnas and then study the same. We can make a> > > > table for each benefic. So we can take them 1 at a time and do an> > > > exhaustive study of the

same.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Most importantly you will start to get the technique that lies> > > > behind all the yogs that are given in standard texts or atleast you> > > > will start to see and understand things in a different light > > (light of> > > > KAS).> > > > >> > > > > I hope that the aim of the exercise is clear and so are the> > > > objectives. Now lets start the Analysis and then we will have a> > > > conclusion in an organized manner.> > > > >> > > > > I suggest all to read the mail and ONLY ANSWER TO QUESTION GIVEN IN> > > > STEP 1.> > > > >> > > > > Please put the heading as Kedrapati dosha - Step 1 so that all > > mails> > > > for step

1 are organized properly.> > > > >> > > > > When we move to step 2 we can put the title Kendrapati dosha - > > Step 2.> > > > >> > > > > Good luck,> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca> > > <http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca>>> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

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Dear Prabha Ji,

 

Please bare with me just trying to stretch more to get fact ......

In case Planet aspects House a/b/c it can not give good result But It

can give Bad results......here exception is that it should not be Lord

of HD/HE else it can give good results

In case it is Lord of HD/E then points are not reduces as sight is not

considered as malafic

 

does this mean for Sagittarius Ash...... it is exception and will not

do harm instead do good things?

 

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

 

prabha wrote:

 

 

Dear Devi Singhji

Ju being in 4th house, aspects HoC when we take 6th house as HoB. This

being the case, Ju with more points in 4th house reduces its power for

6th house (Please check WS for 6th house). That means Ju gives bad

result for 6th house like diseases, debts, slow recovery from illness,

etc. Similarly, for 8th house Ju gives bad results when placed in 4th

house. And for 8th house too, Ju in 4th house aspects HoB, HoC - thus

reducing its points in WS for 8th house. Yes Ju cant give death and

death is a good event for a native.

Thanks

Prabha

 

,

devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:

>

> Thanks Prabha Ji,

>

> I was trying to put reasoning that tells.... that except Ju all

other

> planets may not have more than 4 bindu in all 12 signs so

probability is

> low for same

> and what logic for benific same can also be applied for malafic as

well

> so it seems that some thing is accepted without exception...i

guess

> something a scientific point is missing still.....

>

> "But Ju being in 7th house

> > > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad result"

>

> "--Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

> Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in 12th from

HoD(5th

> house).

>

> I was trying to tell that Ju aspects Hoc when consider 8 as HB so

> generally it can not give result for 8th house so death can not be

 

> expected here....

>

> ------------------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> prabha wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Devi Singh ji

> > --however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as

same can

> > be applied for all planets they could be benific or malefic

as far as

> > aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give results.

> > Ans) Yes all planets in Kendras when not aspecting ABC houses

can give

> > results irrespective of them being Natural Benefic or

Malefic. Kendras

> > are what we term as a very good position(in VA they are

supposed to be

> > Narayan Sthaanas). So when Benefics are placed in such good

position,

> > should give very good results. But they do not give good

results. A

> > malefic in good position will give bad results as that is its

 

> > characteristics.

> >

> > --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

> > Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in 12th

from HoD(5th

> > house).

> >

> > The last question of yours I didnt understand.

> > Thanks

> > Prabha

> >

 

> > <%40>,

devisigh

> > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Prabha Ji,

> > >

> > > After reading some questions came in my mind as below

> > > --however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me

as same can be

> > > applied for all planets they could be benific or malafic

as far as

> > > aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give

results.

> > > --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th

house.

> > > --by looking points owned by planets are as under

> > > 48 Sun

> > > 49 Moon

> > > 54 Mercury

> > > 56 Jupiter

> > > 52 Venus

> > > 39 Mars

> > > 39 Saturn

> > > -- Ma and St are below average and other are on average

48 ...in case

> > > more than 4 points probability would be 12*5=60,hence

only Ju seems

> > near

> > > to this

> > > ------------------

> > > Regards,

> > > Devisingh

> > >

> > > prabha wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Ash ji and Group Members,

> > > > Benefics in Kendras are not good. Benefics usually

get more than 4

> > > > points and therefore their aspect will be malefic

ie negative. All

> > > > benefics Ve, Me, Mo, Su, Ju have 7th aspect from

their respective

> > > > position. In a native's life the most important is

the life, and

> > > > health ie 8th house as HoB, 3rd house as HoA, and

12th house as HoC.

> > > > Now any benefics placed in Kendras, will not aspect

these 3 houses

> > and

> > > > will be eager to give results for 8th house. Only

Ju from being in

> > 7th

> > > > house a Kendra sthaana aspects 3rd house. But Ju

being in 7th house

> > > > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad result.

Therefore all

> > > > benefics in Kendras give bad results.

> > > > Ju in any house will aspect 5th house from itself.

That means when Ju

> > > > is placed in Kendras (HoB), from its position Ju

will aspect HoC and

> > > > will not give results for HoB unless it also

happens to be the

> > LoD/LoE.

> > > > We can easily say that Benefics in Kendras are not

good and that is

> > > > what is meant by Kendadhipati Dosha.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Prabha

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

 

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>,

"ashsam73"

> > > > <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > >

> > > > > I came acoss some chats around Kendrapati

Dosha and was not

> > > > satisfied with the answers. It reminded me that

Guru ji had asked

> > this

> > > > question on the group as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since a lot of people now are more eager to

learn KAS, and are

> > > > beginning to get a good grasp of the system, I

would want you all to

> > > > do this exercise to get the deeper understanding

and depth of KAS.

> > > > >

> > > > > With the applicatin of the basic rules of KAS,

you will see how

> > > > everything falls into place and exceptions also

come out. The

> > > > background reason and understanding of the same is

lost because of

> > the

> > > > absence of this system from what is known today as

Vedic Astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore, I want to take this exercise up.

Again, I would suggest

> > > > that you all make a table and write your replies in

an organized

> > > > manner so that it can be used by current members

and also the members

> > > > that will join the group in future. So that way,

all your efforts

> > will

> > > > be of great use to them.

> > > > >

> > > > > What one misses can be their lessons learned.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why are Benefics (here benefics are Su, Mo,

Ve, Me and Ju)

> > > > considered bad when placed in Kendra considered a

dosh or bad?

> > What is

> > > > the deeper meaning behind this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Let us have an organized discussion of the same

> > > > >

> > > > > Step 1: Lets get emails to only address the

first question.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why would natural benefics as lords of kendra,

being placed in

> > > > kendras be considred a dosh or bad?

> > > > >

> > > > > Once we get the answer to that or settle on

the answer after

> > > > discussion. We will start a discussion to Prove it

scientifically so

> > > > that we can get concrete answer and also the

exceptions if any will

> > > > get seperated as well and you will also have a

CONCRETE and

> > scientific

> > > > reasoning for the same.

> > > > >

> > > > > Step 2: We will draw a table giving EACH

BENEFIC owning a lagna and

> > > > place them in different lagnas and then study the

same. We can make a

> > > > table for each benefic. So we can take them 1 at a

time and do an

> > > > exhaustive study of the same.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Most importantly you will start to get the

technique that lies

> > > > behind all the yogs that are given in standard

texts or atleast you

> > > > will start to see and understand things in a

different light

> > (light of

> > > > KAS).

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope that the aim of the exercise is clear

and so are the

> > > > objectives. Now lets start the Analysis and then we

will have a

> > > > conclusion in an organized manner.

> > > > >

> > > > > I suggest all to read the mail and ONLY ANSWER

TO QUESTION GIVEN IN

> > > > STEP 1.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please put the heading as Kedrapati dosha -

Step 1 so that all

> > mails

> > > > for step 1 are organized properly.

> > > > >

> > > > > When we move to step 2 we can put the title

Kendrapati dosha -

> > Step 2.

> > > > >

> > > > > Good luck,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca>

 

> > <http://www.ashtro.ca

<http://www.ashtro.ca>>

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Devi Singhji

I think you are getting confused here. For Sagittarius Lagna, if we study the

concerned houses viz

6th house:

LoA: Ju; LoB: Ve; LoC: Me; LoD: Sa; LoE: Ve

So in this case for WS for 6th house, Ju from 4th house will aspect HoC

malefically.

 

8th house:

LoA: Sa; LoB: Mo; LoC: MA; LoD: Ma; LoE: Ju

In this case, Ju from 4th house will aspect HoB, HoC NOT malefically as Ju is

LoE. But there will be some problem with Ju giving the results as it is placed

in 12th from HoD.

 

12th House:

LoA: Ve; LoB: Ma; LoC: Ju; LoD: Su; LoE: Ma

Here aspect of Ju from 4th house will be malefic on HoC.

 

Hope I have cleared your doubt.

Thanks

Prabha

 

, devisigh <devisingh.rajput

wrote:

>

> Dear Prabha Ji,

>

> Please bare with me just trying to stretch more to get fact ......

> In case Planet aspects House a/b/c it can not give good result But It

> can give Bad results......here exception is that it should not be Lord

> of HD/HE else it can give good results

> In case it is Lord of HD/E then points are not reduces as sight is not

> considered as malafic

>

> does this mean for Sagittarius Ash...... it is exception and will not do

> harm instead do good things?

>

> ------------------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> prabha wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Devi Singhji

> > Ju being in 4th house, aspects HoC when we take 6th house as HoB. This

> > being the case, Ju with more points in 4th house reduces its power for

> > 6th house (Please check WS for 6th house). That means Ju gives bad

> > result for 6th house like diseases, debts, slow recovery from illness,

> > etc. Similarly, for 8th house Ju gives bad results when placed in 4th

> > house. And for 8th house too, Ju in 4th house aspects HoB, HoC - thus

> > reducing its points in WS for 8th house. Yes Ju cant give death and

> > death is a good event for a native.

> > Thanks

> > Prabha

> >

> >

> > <%40>, devisigh

> > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks Prabha Ji,

> > >

> > > I was trying to put reasoning that tells.... that except Ju all other

> > > planets may not have more than 4 bindu in all 12 signs so

> > probability is

> > > low for same

> > > and what logic for benific same can also be applied for malafic as well

> > > so it seems that some thing is accepted without exception...i guess

> > > something a scientific point is missing still.....

> > >

> > > " But Ju being in 7th house

> > > > > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad result "

> > >

> > > " --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

> > > Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in 12th from HoD(5th

> > > house).

> > >

> > > I was trying to tell that Ju aspects Hoc when consider 8 as HB so

> > > generally it can not give result for 8th house so death can not be

> > > expected here....

> > >

> > > ------------------

> > > Regards,

> > > Devisingh

> > >

> > > prabha wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Devi Singh ji

> > > > --however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as same can

> > > > be applied for all planets they could be benific or malefic as far as

> > > > aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give results.

> > > > Ans) Yes all planets in Kendras when not aspecting ABC houses can

> > give

> > > > results irrespective of them being Natural Benefic or Malefic.

> > Kendras

> > > > are what we term as a very good position(in VA they are supposed

> > to be

> > > > Narayan Sthaanas). So when Benefics are placed in such good position,

> > > > should give very good results. But they do not give good results. A

> > > > malefic in good position will give bad results as that is its

> > > > characteristics.

> > > >

> > > > --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

> > > > Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in 12th from

> > HoD(5th

> > > > house).

> > > >

> > > > The last question of yours I didnt understand.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Prabha

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, devisigh

> > > > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Prabha Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > After reading some questions came in my mind as below

> > > > > --however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as same

> > can be

> > > > > applied for all planets they could be benific or malafic as far as

> > > > > aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give results.

> > > > > --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

> > > > > --by looking points owned by planets are as under

> > > > > 48 Sun

> > > > > 49 Moon

> > > > > 54 Mercury

> > > > > 56 Jupiter

> > > > > 52 Venus

> > > > > 39 Mars

> > > > > 39 Saturn

> > > > > -- Ma and St are below average and other are on average 48 ...in

> > case

> > > > > more than 4 points probability would be 12*5=60,hence only Ju seems

> > > > near

> > > > > to this

> > > > > ------------------

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Devisingh

> > > > >

> > > > > prabha wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Ash ji and Group Members,

> > > > > > Benefics in Kendras are not good. Benefics usually get more than 4

> > > > > > points and therefore their aspect will be malefic ie negative. All

> > > > > > benefics Ve, Me, Mo, Su, Ju have 7th aspect from their respective

> > > > > > position. In a native's life the most important is the life, and

> > > > > > health ie 8th house as HoB, 3rd house as HoA, and 12th house

> > as HoC.

> > > > > > Now any benefics placed in Kendras, will not aspect these 3

> > houses

> > > > and

> > > > > > will be eager to give results for 8th house. Only Ju from

> > being in

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > house a Kendra sthaana aspects 3rd house. But Ju being in 7th

> > house

> > > > > > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad result. Therefore all

> > > > > > benefics in Kendras give bad results.

> > > > > > Ju in any house will aspect 5th house from itself. That means

> > when Ju

> > > > > > is placed in Kendras (HoB), from its position Ju will aspect

> > HoC and

> > > > > > will not give results for HoB unless it also happens to be the

> > > > LoD/LoE.

> > > > > > We can easily say that Benefics in Kendras are not good and

> > that is

> > > > > > what is meant by Kendadhipati Dosha.

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Prabha

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%40>, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I came acoss some chats around Kendrapati Dosha and was not

> > > > > > satisfied with the answers. It reminded me that Guru ji had asked

> > > > this

> > > > > > question on the group as well.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since a lot of people now are more eager to learn KAS, and are

> > > > > > beginning to get a good grasp of the system, I would want you

> > all to

> > > > > > do this exercise to get the deeper understanding and depth of KAS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With the applicatin of the basic rules of KAS, you will see how

> > > > > > everything falls into place and exceptions also come out. The

> > > > > > background reason and understanding of the same is lost

> > because of

> > > > the

> > > > > > absence of this system from what is known today as Vedic

> > Astrology.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Therefore, I want to take this exercise up. Again, I would

> > suggest

> > > > > > that you all make a table and write your replies in an organized

> > > > > > manner so that it can be used by current members and also the

> > members

> > > > > > that will join the group in future. So that way, all your efforts

> > > > will

> > > > > > be of great use to them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What one misses can be their lessons learned.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why are Benefics (here benefics are Su, Mo, Ve, Me and Ju)

> > > > > > considered bad when placed in Kendra considered a dosh or bad?

> > > > What is

> > > > > > the deeper meaning behind this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let us have an organized discussion of the same

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Step 1: Lets get emails to only address the first question.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why would natural benefics as lords of kendra, being placed in

> > > > > > kendras be considred a dosh or bad?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Once we get the answer to that or settle on the answer after

> > > > > > discussion. We will start a discussion to Prove it

> > scientifically so

> > > > > > that we can get concrete answer and also the exceptions if any

> > will

> > > > > > get seperated as well and you will also have a CONCRETE and

> > > > scientific

> > > > > > reasoning for the same.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Step 2: We will draw a table giving EACH BENEFIC owning a

> > lagna and

> > > > > > place them in different lagnas and then study the same. We can

> > make a

> > > > > > table for each benefic. So we can take them 1 at a time and do an

> > > > > > exhaustive study of the same.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Most importantly you will start to get the technique that lies

> > > > > > behind all the yogs that are given in standard texts or

> > atleast you

> > > > > > will start to see and understand things in a different light

> > > > (light of

> > > > > > KAS).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope that the aim of the exercise is clear and so are the

> > > > > > objectives. Now lets start the Analysis and then we will have a

> > > > > > conclusion in an organized manner.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I suggest all to read the mail and ONLY ANSWER TO QUESTION

> > GIVEN IN

> > > > > > STEP 1.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please put the heading as Kedrapati dosha - Step 1 so that all

> > > > mails

> > > > > > for step 1 are organized properly.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When we move to step 2 we can put the title Kendrapati dosha -

> > > > Step 2.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Good luck,

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca>>

> > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> <http://www.ashtro.ca

> > <http://www.ashtro.ca>>>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Prabha ji,

 

Thanks for clarification...however i am not confused rather thinking

how Jupitor can give Bad result for such cases.

 

"Ju is LoE. But there will be some problem with Ju giving the results

as it is placed in 12th from HoD."

 

will look for any rule does that 12th from LoD can obstruct result or

can give malafic here even it is LoE !!

 

However As per my understanding such Jupitor will forms "hansh yoga" as

per vedic and also will not give malafic result atleast due to

kendradipati dosha as it is Lord of Ascendance too.

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

 

prabha wrote:

 

 

Dear Devi Singhji

I think you are getting confused here. For Sagittarius Lagna, if we

study the concerned houses viz

6th house:

LoA: Ju; LoB: Ve; LoC: Me; LoD: Sa; LoE: Ve

So in this case for WS for 6th house, Ju from 4th house will aspect HoC

malefically.

 

8th house:

LoA: Sa; LoB: Mo; LoC: MA; LoD: Ma; LoE: Ju

In this case, Ju from 4th house will aspect HoB, HoC NOT malefically as

Ju is LoE. But there will be some problem with Ju giving the results as

it is placed in 12th from HoD.

 

12th House:

LoA: Ve; LoB: Ma; LoC: Ju; LoD: Su; LoE: Ma

Here aspect of Ju from 4th house will be malefic on HoC.

 

Hope I have cleared your doubt.

Thanks

Prabha

 

,

devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:

>

> Dear Prabha Ji,

>

> Please bare with me just trying to stretch more to get fact ......

> In case Planet aspects House a/b/c it can not give good result But

It

> can give Bad results......here exception is that it should

not be Lord

> of HD/HE else it can give good results

> In case it is Lord of HD/E then points are not reduces as sight is

not

> considered as malafic

>

> does this mean for Sagittarius Ash...... it is exception and will

not do

> harm instead do good things?

>

> ------------------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> prabha wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Devi Singhji

> > Ju being in 4th house, aspects HoC when we take 6th house as

HoB. This

> > being the case, Ju with more points in 4th house reduces its

power for

> > 6th house (Please check WS for 6th house). That means Ju

gives bad

> > result for 6th house like diseases, debts, slow recovery from

illness,

> > etc. Similarly, for 8th house Ju gives bad results when

placed in 4th

> > house. And for 8th house too, Ju in 4th house aspects HoB,

HoC - thus

> > reducing its points in WS for 8th house. Yes Ju cant give

death and

> > death is a good event for a native.

> > Thanks

> > Prabha

> >

> >

 

> > <%40>,

devisigh

> > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks Prabha Ji,

> > >

> > > I was trying to put reasoning that tells.... that except

Ju all other

> > > planets may not have more than 4 bindu in all 12 signs

so

> > probability is

> > > low for same

> > > and what logic for benific same can also be applied for

malafic as well

> > > so it seems that some thing is accepted without

exception...i guess

> > > something a scientific point is missing still.....

> > >

> > > "But Ju being in 7th house

> > > > > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad

result"

> > >

> > > "--Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th

house.

> > > Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in

12th from HoD(5th

> > > house).

> > >

> > > I was trying to tell that Ju aspects Hoc when consider 8

as HB so

> > > generally it can not give result for 8th house so death

can not be

> > > expected here....

> > >

> > > ------------------

> > > Regards,

> > > Devisingh

> > >

> > > prabha wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Devi Singh ji

> > > > --however reasoning does not seems more convincing

to me as same can

> > > > be applied for all planets they could be benific or

malefic as far as

> > > > aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can

give results.

> > > > Ans) Yes all planets in Kendras when not aspecting

ABC houses can

> > give

> > > > results irrespective of them being Natural Benefic

or Malefic.

> > Kendras

> > > > are what we term as a very good position(in VA they

are supposed

> > to be

> > > > Narayan Sthaanas). So when Benefics are placed in

such good position,

> > > > should give very good results. But they do not give

good results. A

> > > > malefic in good position will give bad results as

that is its

> > > > characteristics.

> > > >

> > > > --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th

house.

> > > > Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be

in 12th from

> > HoD(5th

> > > > house).

> > > >

> > > > The last question of yours I didnt understand.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Prabha

> > > >

 

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>,

devisigh

> > > > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Prabha Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > After reading some questions came in my mind

as below

> > > > > --however reasoning does not seems more

convincing to me as same

> > can be

> > > > > applied for all planets they could be benific

or malafic as far as

> > > > > aspect is concern they are not aspecting so

can give results.

> > > > > --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC

for 8th house.

> > > > > --by looking points owned by planets are as

under

> > > > > 48 Sun

> > > > > 49 Moon

> > > > > 54 Mercury

> > > > > 56 Jupiter

> > > > > 52 Venus

> > > > > 39 Mars

> > > > > 39 Saturn

> > > > > -- Ma and St are below average and other are

on average 48 ...in

> > case

> > > > > more than 4 points probability would be

12*5=60,hence only Ju seems

> > > > near

> > > > > to this

> > > > > ------------------

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Devisingh

> > > > >

> > > > > prabha wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Ash ji and Group Members,

> > > > > > Benefics in Kendras are not good.

Benefics usually get more than 4

> > > > > > points and therefore their aspect will be

malefic ie negative. All

> > > > > > benefics Ve, Me, Mo, Su, Ju have 7th

aspect from their respective

> > > > > > position. In a native's life the most

important is the life, and

> > > > > > health ie 8th house as HoB, 3rd house as

HoA, and 12th house

> > as HoC.

> > > > > > Now any benefics placed in Kendras, will

not aspect these 3

> > houses

> > > > and

> > > > > > will be eager to give results for 8th

house. Only Ju from

> > being in

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > house a Kendra sthaana aspects 3rd house.

But Ju being in 7th

> > house

> > > > > > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad

result. Therefore all

> > > > > > benefics in Kendras give bad results.

> > > > > > Ju in any house will aspect 5th house

from itself. That means

> > when Ju

> > > > > > is placed in Kendras (HoB), from its

position Ju will aspect

> > HoC and

> > > > > > will not give results for HoB unless it

also happens to be the

> > > > LoD/LoE.

> > > > > > We can easily say that Benefics in

Kendras are not good and

> > that is

> > > > > > what is meant by Kendadhipati Dosha.

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Prabha

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

 

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%40>,

"ashsam73"

> > > > > > <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I came acoss some chats around

Kendrapati Dosha and was not

> > > > > > satisfied with the answers. It reminded

me that Guru ji had asked

> > > > this

> > > > > > question on the group as well.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since a lot of people now are more

eager to learn KAS, and are

> > > > > > beginning to get a good grasp of the

system, I would want you

> > all to

> > > > > > do this exercise to get the deeper

understanding and depth of KAS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > With the applicatin of the basic

rules of KAS, you will see how

> > > > > > everything falls into place and

exceptions also come out. The

> > > > > > background reason and understanding of

the same is lost

> > because of

> > > > the

> > > > > > absence of this system from what is known

today as Vedic

> > Astrology.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Therefore, I want to take this

exercise up. Again, I would

> > suggest

> > > > > > that you all make a table and write your

replies in an organized

> > > > > > manner so that it can be used by current

members and also the

> > members

> > > > > > that will join the group in future. So

that way, all your efforts

> > > > will

> > > > > > be of great use to them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What one misses can be their lessons

learned.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why are Benefics (here benefics are

Su, Mo, Ve, Me and Ju)

> > > > > > considered bad when placed in Kendra

considered a dosh or bad?

> > > > What is

> > > > > > the deeper meaning behind this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let us have an organized discussion

of the same

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Step 1: Lets get emails to only

address the first question.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why would natural benefics as lords

of kendra, being placed in

> > > > > > kendras be considred a dosh or bad?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Once we get the answer to that or

settle on the answer after

> > > > > > discussion. We will start a discussion to

Prove it

> > scientifically so

> > > > > > that we can get concrete answer and also

the exceptions if any

> > will

> > > > > > get seperated as well and you will also

have a CONCRETE and

> > > > scientific

> > > > > > reasoning for the same.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Step 2: We will draw a table giving

EACH BENEFIC owning a

> > lagna and

> > > > > > place them in different lagnas and then

study the same. We can

> > make a

> > > > > > table for each benefic. So we can take

them 1 at a time and do an

> > > > > > exhaustive study of the same.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Most importantly you will start to

get the technique that lies

> > > > > > behind all the yogs that are given in

standard texts or

> > atleast you

> > > > > > will start to see and understand things

in a different light

> > > > (light of

> > > > > > KAS).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope that the aim of the exercise

is clear and so are the

> > > > > > objectives. Now lets start the Analysis

and then we will have a

> > > > > > conclusion in an organized manner.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I suggest all to read the mail and

ONLY ANSWER TO QUESTION

> > GIVEN IN

> > > > > > STEP 1.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please put the heading as Kedrapati

dosha - Step 1 so that all

> > > > mails

> > > > > > for step 1 are organized properly.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When we move to step 2 we can put

the title Kendrapati dosha -

> > > > Step 2.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Good luck,

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca>

 

> > <http://www.ashtro.ca

<http://www.ashtro.ca>>

> > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca>

<http://www.ashtro.ca

 

> > <http://www.ashtro.ca>>>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Devi Singh ji

LoD/LoE are eager to give results for HoB but the quality of the result will

vary depending on its placement in the chart.

The yogas as considered in VA is all taken care of in Ashtakavarga as BAV points

of planets are all because of different yogas. One need not remember all yogas.

If as you say a chart with PanchaMahapurusha Yoga will never give bad results,

then you are mistaken because the degree of goodness/badness varies in such

charts and one needs to study each chart separately instead of applying a

certain rule blindly. Why did Bhagwan SriRam had to suffer in his life though

his chart was a perfect case of all Yogas present in it?

Thanks

Prabha

, devisigh <devisingh.rajput

wrote:

>

> Dear Prabha ji,

>

> Thanks for clarification...however i am not confused rather thinking

> how Jupitor can give Bad result for such cases.

>

> " Ju is LoE. But there will be some problem with Ju giving the results as

> it is placed in 12th from HoD. "

>

> will look for any rule does that 12th from LoD can obstruct result or

> can give malafic here even it is LoE !!

>

> However As per my understanding such Jupitor will forms " hansh yoga " as

> per vedic and also will not give malafic result atleast due to

> kendradipati dosha as it is Lord of Ascendance too.

> ------------------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> prabha wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Devi Singhji

> > I think you are getting confused here. For Sagittarius Lagna, if we

> > study the concerned houses viz

> > 6th house:

> > LoA: Ju; LoB: Ve; LoC: Me; LoD: Sa; LoE: Ve

> > So in this case for WS for 6th house, Ju from 4th house will aspect

> > HoC malefically.

> >

> > 8th house:

> > LoA: Sa; LoB: Mo; LoC: MA; LoD: Ma; LoE: Ju

> > In this case, Ju from 4th house will aspect HoB, HoC NOT malefically

> > as Ju is LoE. But there will be some problem with Ju giving the

> > results as it is placed in 12th from HoD.

> >

> > 12th House:

> > LoA: Ve; LoB: Ma; LoC: Ju; LoD: Su; LoE: Ma

> > Here aspect of Ju from 4th house will be malefic on HoC.

> >

> > Hope I have cleared your doubt.

> > Thanks

> > Prabha

> >

> >

> > <%40>, devisigh

> > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Prabha Ji,

> > >

> > > Please bare with me just trying to stretch more to get fact ......

> > > In case Planet aspects House a/b/c it can not give good result But It

> > > can give Bad results......here exception is that it should not be Lord

> > > of HD/HE else it can give good results

> > > In case it is Lord of HD/E then points are not reduces as sight is not

> > > considered as malafic

> > >

> > > does this mean for Sagittarius Ash...... it is exception and will

> > not do

> > > harm instead do good things?

> > >

> > > ------------------

> > > Regards,

> > > Devisingh

> > >

> > > prabha wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Devi Singhji

> > > > Ju being in 4th house, aspects HoC when we take 6th house as HoB.

> > This

> > > > being the case, Ju with more points in 4th house reduces its power

> > for

> > > > 6th house (Please check WS for 6th house). That means Ju gives bad

> > > > result for 6th house like diseases, debts, slow recovery from

> > illness,

> > > > etc. Similarly, for 8th house Ju gives bad results when placed in 4th

> > > > house. And for 8th house too, Ju in 4th house aspects HoB, HoC - thus

> > > > reducing its points in WS for 8th house. Yes Ju cant give death and

> > > > death is a good event for a native.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Prabha

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, devisigh

> > > > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks Prabha Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I was trying to put reasoning that tells.... that except Ju all

> > other

> > > > > planets may not have more than 4 bindu in all 12 signs so

> > > > probability is

> > > > > low for same

> > > > > and what logic for benific same can also be applied for malafic

> > as well

> > > > > so it seems that some thing is accepted without exception...i guess

> > > > > something a scientific point is missing still.....

> > > > >

> > > > > " But Ju being in 7th house

> > > > > > > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad result "

> > > > >

> > > > > " --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

> > > > > Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in 12th from

> > HoD(5th

> > > > > house).

> > > > >

> > > > > I was trying to tell that Ju aspects Hoc when consider 8 as HB so

> > > > > generally it can not give result for 8th house so death can not be

> > > > > expected here....

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Devisingh

> > > > >

> > > > > prabha wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Devi Singh ji

> > > > > > --however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as

> > same can

> > > > > > be applied for all planets they could be benific or malefic as

> > far as

> > > > > > aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give results.

> > > > > > Ans) Yes all planets in Kendras when not aspecting ABC houses can

> > > > give

> > > > > > results irrespective of them being Natural Benefic or Malefic.

> > > > Kendras

> > > > > > are what we term as a very good position(in VA they are supposed

> > > > to be

> > > > > > Narayan Sthaanas). So when Benefics are placed in such good

> > position,

> > > > > > should give very good results. But they do not give good

> > results. A

> > > > > > malefic in good position will give bad results as that is its

> > > > > > characteristics.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

> > > > > > Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will be in 12th from

> > > > HoD(5th

> > > > > > house).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The last question of yours I didnt understand.

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Prabha

> > > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%40>, devisigh

> > > > > > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Prabha Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After reading some questions came in my mind as below

> > > > > > > --however reasoning does not seems more convincing to me as

> > same

> > > > can be

> > > > > > > applied for all planets they could be benific or malafic as

> > far as

> > > > > > > aspect is concern they are not aspecting so can give results.

> > > > > > > --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC for 8th house.

> > > > > > > --by looking points owned by planets are as under

> > > > > > > 48 Sun

> > > > > > > 49 Moon

> > > > > > > 54 Mercury

> > > > > > > 56 Jupiter

> > > > > > > 52 Venus

> > > > > > > 39 Mars

> > > > > > > 39 Saturn

> > > > > > > -- Ma and St are below average and other are on average 48

> > ...in

> > > > case

> > > > > > > more than 4 points probability would be 12*5=60,hence only

> > Ju seems

> > > > > > near

> > > > > > > to this

> > > > > > > ------------------

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Devisingh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > prabha wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Ash ji and Group Members,

> > > > > > > > Benefics in Kendras are not good. Benefics usually get

> > more than 4

> > > > > > > > points and therefore their aspect will be malefic ie

> > negative. All

> > > > > > > > benefics Ve, Me, Mo, Su, Ju have 7th aspect from their

> > respective

> > > > > > > > position. In a native's life the most important is the

> > life, and

> > > > > > > > health ie 8th house as HoB, 3rd house as HoA, and 12th house

> > > > as HoC.

> > > > > > > > Now any benefics placed in Kendras, will not aspect these 3

> > > > houses

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > will be eager to give results for 8th house. Only Ju from

> > > > being in

> > > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > > house a Kendra sthaana aspects 3rd house. But Ju being in 7th

> > > > house

> > > > > > > > which is 12th from 8th house can give bad result.

> > Therefore all

> > > > > > > > benefics in Kendras give bad results.

> > > > > > > > Ju in any house will aspect 5th house from itself. That means

> > > > when Ju

> > > > > > > > is placed in Kendras (HoB), from its position Ju will aspect

> > > > HoC and

> > > > > > > > will not give results for HoB unless it also happens to be the

> > > > > > LoD/LoE.

> > > > > > > > We can easily say that Benefics in Kendras are not good and

> > > > that is

> > > > > > > > what is meant by Kendadhipati Dosha.

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > Prabha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > > <%40>,

> > " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I came acoss some chats around Kendrapati Dosha and was not

> > > > > > > > satisfied with the answers. It reminded me that Guru ji

> > had asked

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > question on the group as well.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Since a lot of people now are more eager to learn KAS,

> > and are

> > > > > > > > beginning to get a good grasp of the system, I would want you

> > > > all to

> > > > > > > > do this exercise to get the deeper understanding and depth

> > of KAS.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > With the applicatin of the basic rules of KAS, you will

> > see how

> > > > > > > > everything falls into place and exceptions also come out. The

> > > > > > > > background reason and understanding of the same is lost

> > > > because of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > absence of this system from what is known today as Vedic

> > > > Astrology.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Therefore, I want to take this exercise up. Again, I would

> > > > suggest

> > > > > > > > that you all make a table and write your replies in an

> > organized

> > > > > > > > manner so that it can be used by current members and also the

> > > > members

> > > > > > > > that will join the group in future. So that way, all your

> > efforts

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > be of great use to them.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What one misses can be their lessons learned.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why are Benefics (here benefics are Su, Mo, Ve, Me and Ju)

> > > > > > > > considered bad when placed in Kendra considered a dosh or bad?

> > > > > > What is

> > > > > > > > the deeper meaning behind this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Let us have an organized discussion of the same

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Step 1: Lets get emails to only address the first question.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why would natural benefics as lords of kendra, being

> > placed in

> > > > > > > > kendras be considred a dosh or bad?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Once we get the answer to that or settle on the answer after

> > > > > > > > discussion. We will start a discussion to Prove it

> > > > scientifically so

> > > > > > > > that we can get concrete answer and also the exceptions if

> > any

> > > > will

> > > > > > > > get seperated as well and you will also have a CONCRETE and

> > > > > > scientific

> > > > > > > > reasoning for the same.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Step 2: We will draw a table giving EACH BENEFIC owning a

> > > > lagna and

> > > > > > > > place them in different lagnas and then study the same. We

> > can

> > > > make a

> > > > > > > > table for each benefic. So we can take them 1 at a time

> > and do an

> > > > > > > > exhaustive study of the same.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Most importantly you will start to get the technique

> > that lies

> > > > > > > > behind all the yogs that are given in standard texts or

> > > > atleast you

> > > > > > > > will start to see and understand things in a different light

> > > > > > (light of

> > > > > > > > KAS).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I hope that the aim of the exercise is clear and so are the

> > > > > > > > objectives. Now lets start the Analysis and then we will

> > have a

> > > > > > > > conclusion in an organized manner.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I suggest all to read the mail and ONLY ANSWER TO QUESTION

> > > > GIVEN IN

> > > > > > > > STEP 1.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please put the heading as Kedrapati dosha - Step 1 so

> > that all

> > > > > > mails

> > > > > > > > for step 1 are organized properly.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > When we move to step 2 we can put the title Kendrapati

> > dosha -

> > > > > > Step 2.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Good luck,

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

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[Guest guest]

Dear Prabha Ji,

 

Thanks for sharing information however i have that,I am looking for

reason how Antra of Ju (placed in 4th in Pisces) can give Bad results

concerning 8th house as HB?

--what i can think of that it can give Good results and if we say death

is good event then however it can give death as well.....but not sure

how reasoning does goes like this or else?

 

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

 

prabha wrote:

 

 

Dear Devi Singh ji

LoD/LoE are eager to give results for HoB but the quality of the result

will vary depending on its placement in the chart.

The yogas as considered in VA is all taken care of in Ashtakavarga as

BAV points of planets are all because of different yogas. One need not

remember all yogas.

If as you say a chart with PanchaMahapurusha Yoga will never give bad

results, then you are mistaken because the degree of goodness/badness

varies in such charts and one needs to study each chart separately

instead of applying a certain rule blindly. Why did Bhagwan SriRam had

to suffer in his life though his chart was a perfect case of all Yogas

present in it?

Thanks

Prabha

,

devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:

>

> Dear Prabha ji,

>

> Thanks for clarification...however i am not confused rather

thinking

> how Jupitor can give Bad result for such cases.

>

> "Ju is LoE. But there will be some problem with Ju giving the

results as

> it is placed in 12th from HoD."

>

> will look for any rule does that 12th from LoD can obstruct result

or

> can give malafic here even it is LoE !!

>

> However As per my understanding such Jupitor will forms "hansh

yoga" as

> per vedic and also will not give malafic result atleast due to

> kendradipati dosha as it is Lord of Ascendance too.

> ------------------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> prabha wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Devi Singhji

> > I think you are getting confused here. For Sagittarius Lagna,

if we

> > study the concerned houses viz

> > 6th house:

> > LoA: Ju; LoB: Ve; LoC: Me; LoD: Sa; LoE: Ve

> > So in this case for WS for 6th house, Ju from 4th house will

aspect

> > HoC malefically.

> >

> > 8th house:

> > LoA: Sa; LoB: Mo; LoC: MA; LoD: Ma; LoE: Ju

> > In this case, Ju from 4th house will aspect HoB, HoC NOT

malefically

> > as Ju is LoE. But there will be some problem with Ju giving

the

> > results as it is placed in 12th from HoD.

> >

> > 12th House:

> > LoA: Ve; LoB: Ma; LoC: Ju; LoD: Su; LoE: Ma

> > Here aspect of Ju from 4th house will be malefic on HoC.

> >

> > Hope I have cleared your doubt.

> > Thanks

> > Prabha

> >

> >

 

> > <%40>,

devisigh

> > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Prabha Ji,

> > >

> > > Please bare with me just trying to stretch more to get

fact ......

> > > In case Planet aspects House a/b/c it can not give good

result But It

> > > can give Bad results......here exception is that it

should not be Lord

> > > of HD/HE else it can give good results

> > > In case it is Lord of HD/E then points are not reduces

as sight is not

> > > considered as malafic

> > >

> > > does this mean for Sagittarius Ash...... it is exception

and will

> > not do

> > > harm instead do good things?

> > >

> > > ------------------

> > > Regards,

> > > Devisingh

> > >

> > > prabha wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Devi Singhji

> > > > Ju being in 4th house, aspects HoC when we take 6th

house as HoB.

> > This

> > > > being the case, Ju with more points in 4th house

reduces its power

> > for

> > > > 6th house (Please check WS for 6th house). That

means Ju gives bad

> > > > result for 6th house like diseases, debts, slow

recovery from

> > illness,

> > > > etc. Similarly, for 8th house Ju gives bad results

when placed in 4th

> > > > house. And for 8th house too, Ju in 4th house

aspects HoB, HoC - thus

> > > > reducing its points in WS for 8th house. Yes Ju

cant give death and

> > > > death is a good event for a native.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Prabha

> > > >

> > > >

 

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>,

devisigh

> > > > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks Prabha Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I was trying to put reasoning that tells....

that except Ju all

> > other

> > > > > planets may not have more than 4 bindu in all

12 signs so

> > > > probability is

> > > > > low for same

> > > > > and what logic for benific same can also be

applied for malafic

> > as well

> > > > > so it seems that some thing is accepted

without exception...i guess

> > > > > something a scientific point is missing

still.....

> > > > >

> > > > > "But Ju being in 7th house

> > > > > > > which is 12th from 8th house can

give bad result"

> > > > >

> > > > > "--Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is HoC

for 8th house.

> > > > > Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB will

be in 12th from

> > HoD(5th

> > > > > house).

> > > > >

> > > > > I was trying to tell that Ju aspects Hoc when

consider 8 as HB so

> > > > > generally it can not give result for 8th house

so death can not be

> > > > > expected here....

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Devisingh

> > > > >

> > > > > prabha wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Devi Singh ji

> > > > > > --however reasoning does not seems more

convincing to me as

> > same can

> > > > > > be applied for all planets they could be

benific or malefic as

> > far as

> > > > > > aspect is concern they are not aspecting

so can give results.

> > > > > > Ans) Yes all planets in Kendras when not

aspecting ABC houses can

> > > > give

> > > > > > results irrespective of them being

Natural Benefic or Malefic.

> > > > Kendras

> > > > > > are what we term as a very good

position(in VA they are supposed

> > > > to be

> > > > > > Narayan Sthaanas). So when Benefics are

placed in such good

> > position,

> > > > > > should give very good results. But they

do not give good

> > results. A

> > > > > > malefic in good position will give bad

results as that is its

> > > > > > characteristics.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which is

HoC for 8th house.

> > > > > > Ans) Ju in 4th house for 8th house as HoB

will be in 12th from

> > > > HoD(5th

> > > > > > house).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The last question of yours I didnt

understand.

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Prabha

> > > > > >

 

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%40>,

devisigh

> > > > > > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Prabha Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After reading some questions came in

my mind as below

> > > > > > > --however reasoning does not seems

more convincing to me as

> > same

> > > > can be

> > > > > > > applied for all planets they could

be benific or malafic as

> > far as

> > > > > > > aspect is concern they are not

aspecting so can give results.

> > > > > > > --Ju in 4th aspects 12 as well which

is HoC for 8th house.

> > > > > > > --by looking points owned by planets

are as under

> > > > > > > 48 Sun

> > > > > > > 49 Moon

> > > > > > > 54 Mercury

> > > > > > > 56 Jupiter

> > > > > > > 52 Venus

> > > > > > > 39 Mars

> > > > > > > 39 Saturn

> > > > > > > -- Ma and St are below average and

other are on average 48

> > ...in

> > > > case

> > > > > > > more than 4 points probability would

be 12*5=60,hence only

> > Ju seems

> > > > > > near

> > > > > > > to this

> > > > > > > ------------------

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Devisingh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > prabha wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Ash ji and Group

Members,

> > > > > > > > Benefics in Kendras are not

good. Benefics usually get

> > more than 4

> > > > > > > > points and therefore their

aspect will be malefic ie

> > negative. All

> > > > > > > > benefics Ve, Me, Mo, Su, Ju

have 7th aspect from their

> > respective

> > > > > > > > position. In a native's life

the most important is the

> > life, and

> > > > > > > > health ie 8th house as HoB, 3rd

house as HoA, and 12th house

> > > > as HoC.

> > > > > > > > Now any benefics placed in

Kendras, will not aspect these 3

> > > > houses

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > will be eager to give results

for 8th house. Only Ju from

> > > > being in

> > > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > > house a Kendra sthaana aspects

3rd house. But Ju being in 7th

> > > > house

> > > > > > > > which is 12th from 8th house

can give bad result.

> > Therefore all

> > > > > > > > benefics in Kendras give bad

results.

> > > > > > > > Ju in any house will aspect 5th

house from itself. That means

> > > > when Ju

> > > > > > > > is placed in Kendras (HoB),

from its position Ju will aspect

> > > > HoC and

> > > > > > > > will not give results for HoB

unless it also happens to be the

> > > > > > LoD/LoE.

> > > > > > > > We can easily say that Benefics

in Kendras are not good and

> > > > that is

> > > > > > > > what is meant by Kendadhipati

Dosha.

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > Prabha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

 

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > > <%40>,

 

> > "ashsam73"

> > > > > > > > <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I came acoss some chats

around Kendrapati Dosha and was not

> > > > > > > > satisfied with the answers. It

reminded me that Guru ji

> > had asked

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > question on the group as well.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Since a lot of people now

are more eager to learn KAS,

> > and are

> > > > > > > > beginning to get a good grasp

of the system, I would want you

> > > > all to

> > > > > > > > do this exercise to get the

deeper understanding and depth

> > of KAS.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > With the applicatin of the

basic rules of KAS, you will

> > see how

> > > > > > > > everything falls into place and

exceptions also come out. The

> > > > > > > > background reason and

understanding of the same is lost

> > > > because of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > absence of this system from

what is known today as Vedic

> > > > Astrology.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Therefore, I want to take

this exercise up. Again, I would

> > > > suggest

> > > > > > > > that you all make a table and

write your replies in an

> > organized

> > > > > > > > manner so that it can be used

by current members and also the

> > > > members

> > > > > > > > that will join the group in

future. So that way, all your

> > efforts

> > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > be of great use to them.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What one misses can be

their lessons learned.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why are Benefics (here

benefics are Su, Mo, Ve, Me and Ju)

> > > > > > > > considered bad when placed in

Kendra considered a dosh or bad?

> > > > > > What is

> > > > > > > > the deeper meaning behind this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Let us have an organized

discussion of the same

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Step 1: Lets get emails to

only address the first question.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why would natural benefics

as lords of kendra, being

> > placed in

> > > > > > > > kendras be considred a dosh or

bad?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Once we get the answer to

that or settle on the answer after

> > > > > > > > discussion. We will start a

discussion to Prove it

> > > > scientifically so

> > > > > > > > that we can get concrete answer

and also the exceptions if

> > any

> > > > will

> > > > > > > > get seperated as well and you

will also have a CONCRETE and

> > > > > > scientific

> > > > > > > > reasoning for the same.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Step 2: We will draw a

table giving EACH BENEFIC owning a

> > > > lagna and

> > > > > > > > place them in different lagnas

and then study the same. We

> > can

> > > > make a

> > > > > > > > table for each benefic. So we

can take them 1 at a time

> > and do an

> > > > > > > > exhaustive study of the same.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Most importantly you will

start to get the technique

> > that lies

> > > > > > > > behind all the yogs that are

given in standard texts or

> > > > atleast you

> > > > > > > > will start to see and

understand things in a different light

> > > > > > (light of

> > > > > > > > KAS).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I hope that the aim of the

exercise is clear and so are the

> > > > > > > > objectives. Now lets start the

Analysis and then we will

> > have a

> > > > > > > > conclusion in an organized

manner.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I suggest all to read the

mail and ONLY ANSWER TO QUESTION

> > > > GIVEN IN

> > > > > > > > STEP 1.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please put the heading as

Kedrapati dosha - Step 1 so

> > that all

> > > > > > mails

> > > > > > > > for step 1 are organized

properly.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > When we move to step 2 we

can put the title Kendrapati

> > dosha -

> > > > > > Step 2.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Good luck,

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

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