Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 respected ash ji,anup ji,ramesh ji ,harjeet ji ,prabha ji and other learned members ,this is chart of a female who has saturn in 5th house and inspite of that she did not complete her full saturn delay and got married on 17th april 08, her details are 20-01-1982 14:39hrs 30n19,78e02 kindly put some light on this incomplete delay. regards Amit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Dear Amit, When Sa delay can be over? You need to study the KAS Visulas where a complete lesson is given. In this chart Sa enters previous sign i.e leo from fifth house in Nov2006. Accordingly Sa delay will end that time. Now check the antra after this. Saturn 2007-May-18 2008-Jun-25 Sa is strongest in 7th house with 25 points. What do you say? Regards Anup --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit <amitchauhan05 wrote: Amit <amitchauhan05 incomplete saturn delay Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 8:06 AM respected ash ji,anup ji,ramesh ji ,harjeet ji ,prabha ji and other learned members ,this is chart of a female who has saturn in 5th house and inspite of that she did not complete her full saturn delay and got married on 17th april 08,her details are20-01-198214:39hrs30n19,78e02kindly put some light on this incomplete delay.regardsAmit The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 dear anup ji ,saturn aspecting 7th house marriage should not have happened in saturn antara but in the next strong significator not aspecting houses A,B,C or samdharmi to saturnregardsAmit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Dear Amit, Here Sa is "eligilble" and as i wrote has 25 points in 7th house. Sa is also having 22 points as LoD in 12th house as well as it is LoE in 5th house. Here Sa is "eager" and can give marriage as such. Just check the relation of lagna,Mo,and Su from its 7th lord. Blessings are present too if we see from lagna and Su. Following antras are Me and Ve where Ve is 6th lord. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit Chauhan <amitchauhan05 wrote: Amit Chauhan <amitchauhan05Re: incomplete saturn delay Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 8:56 AM dear anup ji ,saturn aspecting 7th house marriage should not have happened in saturn antara but in the next strong significator not aspecting houses A,B,C or samdharmi to saturnregardsAmit The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Dear Amit ji and Anup ji, I just had a few mins and saw the chart. Lagna is at the border. If the time is different then just check the SAV and then marriage is in Sa with lowest power and there is blessing. That will change everything. No events are given to verify anything. First things first, the birth time should be accurate then anything can be said with certainty. Now, the question you have asked is that marriage happened before delay and u are assuming Sa in 5th house. So for academic purpose here is the explanation. Before jumping to any conclusion, one must study the system. Sa is at 29Vir26 so Delay is approximate 27.5 – 2.5 years so about 25 years. There is blessing but the blessing giving planet itself is causing delay. There is 1 zero due to Moon as well. Venus is close to Sun as well, however its Retro so it has some power. So as Anup ji gave delay is over when Shani antra starts. Now if this time is correct, then the native will receive good happiness in life. Marriage is in MD of Venus who is Natural Karak for marriage. Next after 25.5 years antra of Shani is running. Shani itself cannot give marriage as it aspects all 3 AB and C house. Now Shani is SD to mars as it is in nakshatra of mars and it is also SD to Mercury. Mars is LoE and Mars aspects House C as well. So itself or its SD can give, and Mars antra went in Delay period. So as soon as Delay got over, Shani who is eager but can’t give, came forward and represented Mars. So now its clear that Shani who has the highest power planet will give marriage. Next is that there is delay and Sa is representing an eager planet but there is 1 zero so delay will be there in Antra. So here Marriage took place in 3rd sector. Now selecting PDF. Since we selected Shani = 25 points we can select the next 2 most powerful planets for PDF. So here Mars who is LoE and Next powerful is Sun who is LoD and Ketu also represents Sun. So Ma and Sun will play a role here for marriage. So after 3rd sector starts, Mars-Ketu come 13th April to 26th April and it gave marriage in 2008. Everything written above is given in lessons and discussed in hundreds of charts solved on the list. Now all the above is for academic. If time is about 10 mins ahead.. .whole picture changes. 3 zeroes, marriage in lowest power planet. Blessing are there as well. So ......... In any case... just came by the list and saw the chart............. Interesting.... Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Amit Wednesday January 6, 2010 9:37 PM To: Subject: incomplete saturn delay respected ash ji,anup ji,ramesh ji ,harjeet ji ,prabha ji and other learned members ,this is chart of a female who has saturn in 5th house and inspite of that she did not complete her full saturn delay and got married on 17th april 08, her details are 20-01-1982 14:39hrs 30n19,78e02 kindly put some light on this incomplete delay. regards Amit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 respected ash and anup ji, The time reported was 14:35 but i corrected it to 14:39 as per tatwa and antartatwa method as told by rayudu ji so time cannot be much further than this. Also she is not leading a happy life and had a love marriage. she did her fashion tech course with great difficulty and is not able to repay it, and this loan has got doubled. she is working for I.T. company and os nowhere related to fashion industry. Could not complete her graduation too. (probably lord of 6th placed with more points in 9th could be the reason). her two younger brothers do not do anything (6th lord aspect on 3rd) and she remain worried for them. so lagna has to be taurus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Dear Amit Ji, I got asc. as 28 Ta 15. There is full delay caused by Sa and no delay by Ju but Ju is spoiled due being in Libra and positioned in 6th house in rasi and navamsa too. One very important point is here that the native has blessings between Sa and Ve. Sa is itself a delay causing planet. Sa delay gets over on 20 Oct 06 when Ju antra was passing. Next following antra is that of Sa. Sa is SD to Ma LoE and it has max.SAV point for 7th in WS. Sa being delay causing planet should have given the result in first sector itself but there is one zero in SAV so Sa has given the result in second sector. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit <amitchauhan05 wrote: Amit <amitchauhan05 incomplete saturn delay Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 8:06 AM respected ash ji,anup ji,ramesh ji ,harjeet ji ,prabha ji and other learned members ,this is chart of a female who has saturn in 5th house and inspite of that she did not complete her full saturn delay and got married on 17th april 08,her details are20-01-198214:39hrs30n19,78e02kindly put some light on this incomplete delay.regardsAmit The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010  Dear Amit Is it possible to get some events of her life. Regards Sudhir - ramesh mishra Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:00 PM Re: incomplete saturn delay Dear Amit Ji, I got asc. as 28 Ta 15. There is full delay caused by Sa and no delay by Ju but Ju is spoiled due being in Libra and positioned in 6th house in rasi and navamsa too. One very important point is here that the native has blessings between Sa and Ve. Sa is itself a delay causing planet. Sa delay gets over on 20 Oct 06 when Ju antra was passing. Next following antra is that of Sa. Sa is SD to Ma LoE and it has max.SAV point for 7th in WS. Sa being delay causing planet should have given the result in first sector itself but there is one zero in SAV so Sa has given the result in second sector. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit <amitchauhan05 > wrote: Amit <amitchauhan05 > incomplete saturn delay Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 8:06 AM respected ash ji,anup ji,ramesh ji ,harjeet ji ,prabha ji and other learned members ,this is chart of a female who has saturn in 5th house and inspite of that she did not complete her full saturn delay and got married on 17th april 08,her details are20-01-198214:39hrs30n19,78e02kindly put some light on this incomplete delay.regardsAmit The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 The navamsa lagna changes from Leo to Virgo, if you change time from 14:35 to 14:39. Nir. , Amit Chauhan <amitchauhan05 wrote: > > respected ash and anup ji, > The time reported was 14:35 but i corrected it to 14:39 as per tatwa and antartatwa method as told by rayudu ji so time cannot be much further than this. Also she is not leading a happy life and had a love marriage. she did her fashion tech course with great difficulty and is not able to repay it, and this loan has got doubled. she is working for I.T. company and os nowhere related to fashion industry. Could not complete her graduation too. (probably lord of 6th placed with more points in 9th could be the reason). her two younger brothers do not do anything (6th lord aspect on 3rd) and she remain worried for them. so lagna has to be taurus. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Dear Amit, Anupji, Rameshji,  and other members,                 Delay for this chart is Due to Saturn is only 25 years, as Saturn is in last degrees. ( Please read this in Saturn delay.) So marriage is in line with the laws of KAS. Date of marriage given by you is 17th April 08 in the antra of Saturn having highest points 25 in WS and Sun's transit is in the sign of Mars( second highest 19, and in the nakshtra of Ketu represents Sun 17 pts  and Jupiter which is SD to Saturn as it is in the navmansha of Saturn. As delay causing planet gives event in the first sector but due to one zero it happened in later sector. Now as Sixth lord is situated in Root karak house indicates love marriage. If sixth lord is situated in Karak or Root karak house generally person selects his spouse on his own. Points in 5th and 12th are also high. Other things regarding Education is clearly indicated from WS. Current antra of Ve in Ve MD also shows her current financial position. The original time given seems to be more correct 14:35, even few mins earlier 14:32 suits much better.                   Quality, quantity and timing events are very different things. This system is only for timing events only. Blessings krushana                  On 1/7/10, Amit Chauhan <amitchauhan05 wrote:  respected ash and anup ji,          The time reported was 14:35 but i corrected it to 14:39 as per tatwa and antartatwa method as told by rayudu ji so time cannot be much further than this. Also she is not leading a happy life and had a love marriage. she did her fashion tech course with great difficulty and is not able to repay it, and this loan has got doubled. she is working for I.T. company and os nowhere related to fashion industry. Could not complete her graduation too. (probably lord of 6th placed with more points in 9th could be the reason). her two younger brothers do not do anything (6th lord aspect on 3rd) and she remain worried for them. so lagna has to be taurus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 08.01.10 Sub: Female native, 20.01.1982, 14:35 hrs, 30.19.N; 78.02.E, Asc : 26Ta19. Validation of Marriage date 17.04.2008 by KAS. Dear Ash ji, Anup ji, Ramesh ji and Group, Can I please request for clarification of a technical 'funda' on the basis of the above mentioned chart. In context to the above chart I have noted that : There is full Sa delay. Sa is 29Vi26. Sa enters Leo on 20th Oct 2006 but soon after on 6th Dec 2006 it turns retrograde. So we cannot assume Sa delay to be over on 20th Oct 2006. On 24.01.2007 Sa goes back to the Cancer sign. On 20.04.2007 it stops being retrograde but continue to remain in the Cancer sign. So I think the delay period continues then. 08.07.2007 Sa re-enters Leo sign. On 19.12.2007 Saturn becomes retrograde once again in the Leo sign. On 03.05.2008 it stops being retrograde in the Leo sign and thereafter moves only forward in the Leo sign for its remaining stay in this sign. Question: So should not the technical delay of Sa be considered over only on 3rd May 2008 when Sa finally starts moving ahead in this sign?. Will the Sa delay said to be technically over on 08.07.2007 when Saturn re-enters Leo ? Or, Will it be over when Sa finally stops turning retrograde and starts moving only forward in Leo sign which it did from 3rd May 2008 onwards. What is that precise date on which Sa delay here is technically over? Thanks in advance for clarifying this technical issue. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:59:42 +0530 wrote > Dear Amit Ji, I got asc. as 28 Ta 15. There is full delay caused by Sa and no delay by Ju but Ju is spoiled due being in Libra and positioned in 6th house in rasi and navamsa too. One very important point is here that the native has blessings between Sa and Ve. Sa is itself a delay causing planet. Sadelay gets over on 20 Oct 06 when Ju antra was passing. Next followingantra is that of Sa. Sa is SD to Ma LoE and it has max.SAV pointfor 7th in WS. Sa being delay causing planet should have given the result in first sector itself but there is one zero in SAV so Sa has given the result in second sector. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra > >rcmastro > >--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit wrote: > >Amit > incomplete saturn delay > >Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 8:06 AM > > respected ash ji,anup ji,ramesh ji ,harjeet ji ,prabha ji and other learned members ,this is chart of a female who has saturn in 5th house and inspite of that she did not complete her full saturn delay and got married on 17th april 08, >her details are >20-01-1982 >14:39hrs >30n19,78e02 >kindly put some light on this incomplete delay. >regards >Amit > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Dear Nikhlesh ji As per charts I've soled,when Sa enters zero degree of previous sign,the delay will over,don't consider its retrogression after this.We just consider retrogression before entering it to zero degree of previous sign. With best wishes Hussein , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > 08.01.10 > > Sub: Female native, 20.01.1982, 14:35 hrs, 30.19.N; 78.02.E, Asc : 26Ta19. Validation of Marriage date 17.04.2008 by KAS. > > Dear Ash ji, Anup ji, Ramesh ji and Group, > > Can I please request for clarification of a technical 'funda' on the basis of the above mentioned chart. > > In context to the above chart I have noted that : > > There is full Sa delay. Sa is 29Vi26. Sa enters Leo on 20th Oct 2006 but soon after on 6th Dec 2006 it turns retrograde. So we cannot assume Sa delay to be over on 20th Oct 2006. > > On 24.01.2007 Sa goes back to the Cancer sign. > > On 20.04.2007 it stops being retrograde but continue to remain in the Cancer sign. So I think the delay period continues then. > > 08.07.2007 Sa re-enters Leo sign. > > On 19.12.2007 Saturn becomes retrograde once again in the Leo sign. > > On 03.05.2008 it stops being retrograde in the Leo sign and thereafter moves only forward in the Leo sign for its remaining stay in this sign. > > Question: > > So should not the technical delay of Sa be considered over only on 3rd May 2008 when Sa finally starts moving ahead in this sign?. > > Will the Sa delay said to be technically over on 08.07.2007 when Saturn re-enters Leo ? > > Or, > > Will it be over when Sa finally stops turning retrograde and starts moving only forward in Leo sign which it did from 3rd May 2008 onwards. > > What is that precise date on which Sa delay here is technically over? > > Thanks in advance for clarifying this technical issue. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:59:42 +0530 wrote > > > > > > Dear Amit Ji, > I got asc. as 28 Ta 15. > There is full delay caused by Sa and no delay by Ju but Ju is spoiled due being in Libra and positioned in 6th house in rasi and navamsa too. > One very important point is here that the native has blessings between Sa and Ve. > Sa is itself a delay causing planet. > Sadelay gets over on 20 Oct 06 when Ju antra was passing. > Next followingantra is that of Sa. > Sa is SD to Ma LoE and it has max.SAV pointfor 7th in WS. > Sa being delay causing planet should have given the result in first sector itself but there is one zero in SAV so Sa has given the result in second sector. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > > >rcmastro > > > >--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit wrote: > > > > >Amit > > incomplete saturn delay > > > >Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 8:06 AM > > > > > > > respected ash ji,anup ji,ramesh ji ,harjeet ji ,prabha ji and other learned members ,this is chart of a female who has saturn in 5th house and inspite of that she did not complete her full saturn delay and got married on 17th april 08, > >her details are > >20-01-1982 > >14:39hrs > >30n19,78e02 > >kindly put some light on this incomplete delay. > >regards > >Amit > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Dear Hussain ji, Thanks for your prompt reply. However I have in my notes that for calculating Sa dealy we must take the final transit of Saturn, the final entry into the sign after which it will not retro out. This was explained by Ash ji through the message no 21340 dated 2nd Nov 2009. In context to the chart under study (20.01.1982, 14:35 hrs, 30.19.N; 78.02.E), it is clear that Sa re-enters Leo on 08.07.2007 and therefore as per the teachings though message no 21340 the Sa delay for this female native would be over on 08.07.2007. So this is clear that Sa delay gets over on 08.07.2007 However, Sa once again becomes retro quite soon in this Leo sign (2nd time retro in the same sign on 19.12.2007). But this time it does not jump back to the previous Cancer sign. It stays in Leo, albeit in retro motion and becomes 'Forward' on 03.05.2008 It is not a regular happening that Sa becomes retro more than once in the same sign. So my question is do we consider Sa becoming 2nd time retro in the same sign before finally setting itself in the forward motion. If 'No' then Sa delay for this native would be over on 08.07.2007 If 'Yes' then the Sa delay would be over on 03.05.2008 What is that date at which Sa delay gets finally over technically for this native? This is the point I intended to seek guidance at. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:34:41 +0530 wrote > Dear Nikhlesh ji As per charts I've soled,when Sa enters zero degree of previous sign,the delay will over,don't consider its retrogression after this.We just consider retrogression before entering it to zero degree of previous sign. With best wishes Hussein , "nikhlesh mathur" wrote: > > > 08.01.10 > > Sub: Female native, 20.01.1982, 14:35 hrs, 30.19.N; 78.02.E, Asc : 26Ta19. Validation of Marriage date 17.04.2008 by KAS. > > Dear Ash ji, Anup ji, Ramesh ji and Group, > > Can I please request for clarification of a technical 'funda' on the basis of the above mentioned chart. > > In context to the above chart I have noted that : > > There is full Sa delay. Sa is 29Vi26. Sa enters Leo on 20th Oct 2006 but soon after on 6th Dec 2006 it turns retrograde. So we cannot assume Sa delay to be over on 20th Oct 2006. > > On 24.01.2007 Sa goes back to the Cancer sign. > > On 20.04.2007 it stops being retrograde but continue to remain in the Cancer sign. So I think the delay period continues then. > > 08.07.2007 Sa re-enters Leo sign. > > On 19.12.2007 Saturn becomes retrograde once again in the Leo sign. > > On 03.05.2008 it stops being retrograde in the Leo sign and thereafter moves only forward in the Leo sign for its remaining stay in this sign. > > Question: > > So should not the technical delay of Sa be considered over only on 3rd May 2008 when Sa finally starts moving ahead in this sign?. > > Will the Sa delay said to be technically over on 08.07.2007 when Saturn re-enters Leo ? > > Or, > > Will it be over when Sa finally stops turning retrograde and starts moving only forward in Leo sign which it did from 3rd May 2008 onwards. > > What is that precise date on which Sa delay here is technically over? > > Thanks in advance for clarifying this technical issue. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:59:42 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amit Ji, > I got asc. as 28 Ta 15. > There is full delay caused by Sa and no delay by Ju but Ju is spoiled due being in Libra and positioned in 6th house in rasi and navamsa too. > One very important point is here that the native has blessings between Sa and Ve. > Sa is itself a delay causing planet. > Sadelay gets over on 20 Oct 06 when Ju antra was passing. > Next followingantra is that of Sa. > Sa is SD to Ma LoE and it has max.SAV pointfor 7th in WS. > Sa being delay causing planet should have given the result in first sector itself but there is one zero in SAV so Sa has given the result in second sector. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > > >rcmastro > > > >--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit wrote: > > > > >Amit > > incomplete saturn delay > > > >Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 8:06 AM > > > > > > > respected ash ji,anup ji,ramesh ji ,harjeet ji ,prabha ji and other learned members ,this is chart of a female who has saturn in 5th house and inspite of that she did not complete her full saturn delay and got married on 17th april 08, > >her details are > >20-01-1982 > >14:39hrs > >30n19,78e02 > >kindly put some light on this incomplete delay. > >regards > >Amit > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Dear Nikhlesh ji and group, Here are few points as guruji tought regarding Sa delay. Lets take this chart as an example for this learning. When Sa enters in leo (previous sign) and becomes retro and return back to cancer then delay will not be over.But if Sa re-enter in leo sign then delay will be over. Few clarifications are... 1. if Sa enters a sign with a minimum distance of few degrees,say it covers atleast a navamsa or so and becomes retro then delay will be over. 2. If Sa after entering a sign while remaining in the same sign for the duration say arround three months then the delay will be considered over. 3. If Sa stays for a shorter duration and becomes retro while going back to cancer sign (like here) then delay will be not over but it will start showing some progress in this matter. So in this chart,delay will be over after re-entering irrespect it becomes retro on 8thJuly 2007 Regards Anup --- On Fri, 8/1/10, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathurRe: Re: incomplete saturn delay Date: Friday, 8 January, 2010, 4:46 PM 08.01.10Sub: Female native, 20.01.1982, 14:35 hrs, 30.19.N; 78.02.E, Asc : 26Ta19. Validation of Marriage date 17.04.2008 by KAS.Dear Ash ji, Anup ji, Ramesh ji and Group,Can I please request for clarification of a technical 'funda' on the basis of the above mentioned chart.In context to the above chart I have noted that :There is full Sa delay. Sa is 29Vi26. Sa enters Leo on 20th Oct 2006 but soon after on 6th Dec 2006 it turns retrograde. So we cannot assume Sa delay to be over on 20th Oct 2006.On 24.01.2007 Sa goes back to the Cancer sign.On 20.04.2007 it stops being retrograde but continue to remain in the Cancer sign. So I think the delay period continues then.08.07.2007 Sa re-enters Leo sign.On 19.12.2007 Saturn becomes retrograde once again in the Leo sign.On 03.05.2008 it stops being retrograde in the Leo sign and thereafter moves only forward in the Leo sign for its remaining stay in this sign.Question: So should not the technical delay of Sa be considered over only on 3rd May 2008 when Sa finally starts moving ahead in this sign?.Will the Sa delay said to be technically over on 08.07.2007 when Saturn re-enters Leo ?Or,Will it be over when Sa finally stops turning retrograde and starts moving only forward in Leo sign which it did from 3rd May 2008 onwards.What is that precise date on which Sa delay here is technically over?Thanks in advance for clarifying this technical issue.Regards,Nikhlesh MathurOn Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:59:42 +0530 wrote>Dear Amit Ji,I got asc. as 28 Ta 15.There is full delay caused by Sa and no delay by Ju but Ju is spoiled due being in Libra and positioned in 6th house in rasi and navamsa too.One very important point is here that the native has blessings between Sa and Ve.Sa is itself a delay causing planet.Sadelay gets over on 20 Oct 06 when Ju antra was passing.Next followingantra is that of Sa.Sa is SD to Ma LoE and it has max.SAV pointfor 7th in WS.Sa being delay causing planet should have given the result in first sector itself but there is one zero in SAV so Sa has given the result in second sector.Thanks and regards.Ramesh Mishra>>rcmastro>>--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit wrote:>>Amit >[astrologyandtiming events] incomplete saturn delay>astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com>Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 8:06 AM>>respected ash ji,anup ji,ramesh ji ,harjeet ji ,prabha ji and other learned members ,this is chart of a female who has saturn in 5th house and inspite of that she did not complete her full saturn delay and got married on 17th april 08,>her details are>20-01-1982>14:39hrs>30n19,78e02>kindly put some light on this incomplete delay.>regards>Amit>>The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Respected Guruji and all list members:I have a question as to what if a lagna is at the very end of a sign or at the very begining of the following sign even after a reasonably good effort at birth time rectification and even looking at the natives character,personality and body features reveal to be a combination of 2 signs,then the KAS work sheet gets hard to interpret as Antara in one sign may have high points and hence eager to give you timing for marriage and the same antara in the next sign could have less than 12 points and hence less eager or inadvisable time for marriage. Thank you and best wishes,VJ--- On Thu, 1/7/10, krushana Jugal <krushana wrote:krushana Jugal <krushanaRe: incomplete saturn delay Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 7:37 PM Dear Amit, Anupji, Rameshji, and other members, Delay for this chart is Due to Saturn is only 25 years, as Saturn is in last degrees. ( Please read this in Saturn delay.) So marriage is in line with the laws of KAS. Date of marriage given by you is 17th April 08 in the antra of Saturn having highest points 25 in WS and Sun's transit is in the sign of Mars( second highest 19, and in the nakshtra of Ketu represents Sun 17 pts and Jupiter which is SD to Saturn as it is in the navmansha of Saturn. As delay causing planet gives event in the first sector but due to one zero it happened in later sector. Now as Sixth lord is situated in Root karak house indicates love marriage. If sixth lord is situated in Karak or Root karak house generally person selects his spouse on his own. Points in 5th and 12th are also high. Other things regarding Education is clearly indicated from WS. Current antra of Ve in Ve MD also shows her current financial position. The original time given seems to be more correct 14:35, even few mins earlier 14:32 suits much better. Quality, quantity and timing events are very different things. This system is only for timing events only. Blessings krushana On 1/7/10, Amit Chauhan <amitchauhan05@ > wrote: respected ash and anup ji, The time reported was 14:35 but i corrected it to 14:39 as per tatwa and antartatwa method as told by rayudu ji so time cannot be much further than this. Also she is not leading a happy life and had a love marriage. she did her fashion tech course with great difficulty and is not able to repay it, and this loan has got doubled. she is working for I.T. company and os nowhere related to fashion industry. Could not complete her graduation too. (probably lord of 6th placed with more points in 9th could be the reason). her two younger brothers do not do anything (6th lord aspect on 3rd) and she remain worried for them. so lagna has to be taurus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Dear Anup ji, An excellent and powerful mail J and very good insight into the finer nuance of delay. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. M Saturday January 9, 2010 6:35 AM Re: Re: incomplete saturn delay Dear Nikhlesh ji and group, Here are few points as guruji tought regarding Sa delay. Lets take this chart as an example for this learning. When Sa enters in leo (previous sign) and becomes retro and return back to cancer then delay will not be over.But if Sa re-enter in leo sign then delay will be over. Few clarifications are... 1. if Sa enters a sign with a minimum distance of few degrees,say it covers atleast a navamsa or so and becomes retro then delay will be over. 2. If Sa after entering a sign while remaining in the same sign for the duration say arround three months then the delay will be considered over. 3. If Sa stays for a shorter duration and becomes retro while going back to cancer sign (like here) then delay will be not over but it will start showing some progress in this matter. So in this chart,delay will be over after re-entering irrespect it becomes retro on 8thJuly 2007 Regards Anup --- On Fri, 8/1/10, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur Re: Re: incomplete saturn delay Friday, 8 January, 2010, 4:46 PM 08.01.10 Sub: Female native, 20.01.1982, 14:35 hrs, 30.19.N; 78.02.E, Asc : 26Ta19. Validation of Marriage date 17.04.2008 by KAS. Dear Ash ji, Anup ji, Ramesh ji and Group, Can I please request for clarification of a technical 'funda' on the basis of the above mentioned chart. In context to the above chart I have noted that : There is full Sa delay. Sa is 29Vi26. Sa enters Leo on 20th Oct 2006 but soon after on 6th Dec 2006 it turns retrograde. So we cannot assume Sa delay to be over on 20th Oct 2006. On 24.01.2007 Sa goes back to the Cancer sign. On 20.04.2007 it stops being retrograde but continue to remain in the Cancer sign. So I think the delay period continues then. 08.07.2007 Sa re-enters Leo sign. On 19.12.2007 Saturn becomes retrograde once again in the Leo sign. On 03.05.2008 it stops being retrograde in the Leo sign and thereafter moves only forward in the Leo sign for its remaining stay in this sign. Question: So should not the technical delay of Sa be considered over only on 3rd May 2008 when Sa finally starts moving ahead in this sign?. Will the Sa delay said to be technically over on 08.07.2007 when Saturn re-enters Leo ? Or, Will it be over when Sa finally stops turning retrograde and starts moving only forward in Leo sign which it did from 3rd May 2008 onwards. What is that precise date on which Sa delay here is technically over? Thanks in advance for clarifying this technical issue. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:59:42 +0530 wrote > Dear Amit Ji, I got asc. as 28 Ta 15. There is full delay caused by Sa and no delay by Ju but Ju is spoiled due being in Libra and positioned in 6th house in rasi and navamsa too. One very important point is here that the native has blessings between Sa and Ve. Sa is itself a delay causing planet. Sadelay gets over on 20 Oct 06 when Ju antra was passing. Next followingantra is that of Sa. Sa is SD to Ma LoE and it has max.SAV pointfor 7th in WS. Sa being delay causing planet should have given the result in first sector itself but there is one zero in SAV so Sa has given the result in second sector. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra > >rcmastro > >--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit wrote: > >Amit >[astrologyandtiming events] incomplete saturn delay >astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com >Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 8:06 AM > > respected ash ji,anup ji,ramesh ji ,harjeet ji ,prabha ji and other learned members ,this is chart of a female who has saturn in 5th house and inspite of that she did not complete her full saturn delay and got married on 17th april 08, >her details are >20-01-1982 >14:39hrs >30n19,78e02 >kindly put some light on this incomplete delay. >regards >Amit > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji and all, As per this writeup I am now confused. In the discussion chart Sa is at 29 Vi 27 at the time of birth. For calculating the delay period, Sa enters in Leo on 20 Oct 06 at 0 deg 2 min. I did not calculate the exact time but on this date it was in the position of 0 deg 2 min then it becomes under retrogression in Leo sign itself at 2 deg on 08 Dec 06. It means he travelled for a period of 2 months 18 days covering the arc of 2 deg 33 min. It means he travelled only less than a navamsa.. Therefore according to the para 1 of clarification Sa delay becomes over on 08 Dec 06. Sa enters Karka sign while in retrogression on 24 Jan 07. He covers the arc of 29 Cn 58.. He covers the distance of only 2 deg 2 min which is again less than a navamsa. Sa becomes direct in Karka on 20 Apr 07 at the arc of 25 Cn 06 Again he moves to Leo sign on 08 Jul 07 at 0 deg. Anup Ji when you consider the end of delay on 08 Jul 07, in that case thiis delay ends in the first sector Sa antra and then Sa antra should not give the event. On the contrary when the end of delay is considered on 20 Oct 06, it falls during Ju antra and then Sa antra is ready to give the event. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Sun, 10/1/10, Ash's Corner <kas wrote: Ash's Corner <kasRE: Re: incomplete saturn delay Date: Sunday, 10 January, 2010, 8:30 AM Dear Anup ji, An excellent and powerful mail J and very good insight into the finer nuance of delay. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of Anup. MSaturday January 9, 2010 6:35 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] incomplete saturn delay Dear Nikhlesh ji and group, Here are few points as guruji tought regarding Sa delay. Lets take this chart as an example for this learning. When Sa enters in leo (previous sign) and becomes retro and return back to cancer then delay will not be over.But if Sa re-enter in leo sign then delay will be over. Few clarifications are... 1. if Sa enters a sign with a minimum distance of few degrees,say it covers atleast a navamsa or so and becomes retro then delay will be over. 2. If Sa after entering a sign while remaining in the same sign for the duration say arround three months then the delay will be considered over. 3. If Sa stays for a shorter duration and becomes retro while going back to cancer sign (like here) then delay will be not over but it will start showing some progress in this matter. So in this chart,delay will be over after re-entering irrespect it becomes retro on 8thJuly 2007 Regards Anup --- On Fri, 8/1/10, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur@ rediffmail. com> wrote: nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur@ rediffmail. com>Re: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] incomplete saturn delayastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 8 January, 2010, 4:46 PM 08.01.10Sub: Female native, 20.01.1982, 14:35 hrs, 30.19.N; 78.02.E, Asc : 26Ta19. Validation of Marriage date 17.04.2008 by KAS.Dear Ash ji, Anup ji, Ramesh ji and Group,Can I please request for clarification of a technical 'funda' on the basis of the above mentioned chart.In context to the above chart I have noted that :There is full Sa delay. Sa is 29Vi26. Sa enters Leo on 20th Oct 2006 but soon after on 6th Dec 2006 it turns retrograde. So we cannot assume Sa delay to be over on 20th Oct 2006.On 24.01.2007 Sa goes back to the Cancer sign.On 20.04.2007 it stops being retrograde but continue to remain in the Cancer sign. So I think the delay period continues then.08.07.2007 Sa re-enters Leo sign.On 19.12.2007 Saturn becomes retrograde once again in the Leo sign.On 03.05.2008 it stops being retrograde in the Leo sign and thereafter moves only forward in the Leo sign for its remaining stay in this sign.Question: So should not the technical delay of Sa be considered over only on 3rd May 2008 when Sa finally starts moving ahead in this sign?.Will the Sa delay said to be technically over on 08.07.2007 when Saturn re-enters Leo ?Or,Will it be over when Sa finally stops turning retrograde and starts moving only forward in Leo sign which it did from 3rd May 2008 onwards.What is that precise date on which Sa delay here is technically over?Thanks in advance for clarifying this technical issue.Regards,Nikhlesh MathurOn Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:59:42 +0530 wrote>Dear Amit Ji,I got asc. as 28 Ta 15.There is full delay caused by Sa and no delay by Ju but Ju is spoiled due being in Libra and positioned in 6th house in rasi and navamsa too.One very important point is here that the native has blessings between Sa and Ve.Sa is itself a delay causing planet.Sadelay gets over on 20 Oct 06 when Ju antra was passing.Next followingantra is that of Sa.Sa is SD to Ma LoE and it has max.SAV pointfor 7th in WS.Sa being delay causing planet should have given the result in first sector itself but there is one zero in SAV so Sa has given the result in second sector.Thanks and regards.Ramesh Mishra>>rcmastro>>--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit wrote:>>Amit >[astrologyandtiming events] incomplete saturn delay>astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com>Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 8:06 AM>>respected ash ji,anup ji,ramesh ji ,harjeet ji ,prabha ji and other learned members ,this is chart of a female who has saturn in 5th house and inspite of that she did not complete her full saturn delay and got married on 17th april 08,>her details are>20-01-1982>14:39hrs>30n19,78e02>kindly put some light on this incomplete delay.>regards>Amit>>The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Dear Ramesh ji, Please go through messege#21748 where Ash ji has already explained this thing in detail. Sa here gave the marriage as samdharmi to Mars and not itself. Now you can well judge the scenario as this is as per our rules. Ma antra was covered by delay period where Ma is eager as LoE for seventh house matters. Hope it is clear now. Regards Anup --- On Sun, 10/1/10, ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002RE: Re: incomplete saturn delay Date: Sunday, 10 January, 2010, 2:10 PM Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji and all, As per this writeup I am now confused. In the discussion chart Sa is at 29 Vi 27 at the time of birth. For calculating the delay period, Sa enters in Leo on 20 Oct 06 at 0 deg 2 min. I did not calculate the exact time but on this date it was in the position of 0 deg 2 min then it becomes under retrogression in Leo sign itself at 2 deg on 08 Dec 06. It means he travelled for a period of 2 months 18 days covering the arc of 2 deg 33 min. It means he travelled only less than a navamsa.. Therefore according to the para 1 of clarification Sa delay becomes over on 08 Dec 06. Sa enters Karka sign while in retrogression on 24 Jan 07. He covers the arc of 29 Cn 58.. He covers the distance of only 2 deg 2 min which is again less than a navamsa. Sa becomes direct in Karka on 20 Apr 07 at the arc of 25 Cn 06 Again he moves to Leo sign on 08 Jul 07 at 0 deg. Anup Ji when you consider the end of delay on 08 Jul 07, in that case thiis delay ends in the first sector Sa antra and then Sa antra should not give the event. On the contrary when the end of delay is considered on 20 Oct 06, it falls during Ju antra and then Sa antra is ready to give the event. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra rcmastro--- On Sun, 10/1/10, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote: Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kasRE: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] incomplete saturn delayastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSunday, 10 January, 2010, 8:30 AM Dear Anup ji, An excellent and powerful mail J and very good insight into the finer nuance of delay. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of Anup. MSaturday January 9, 2010 6:35 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] incomplete saturn delay Dear Nikhlesh ji and group, Here are few points as guruji tought regarding Sa delay. Lets take this chart as an example for this learning. When Sa enters in leo (previous sign) and becomes retro and return back to cancer then delay will not be over.But if Sa re-enter in leo sign then delay will be over. Few clarifications are... 1. if Sa enters a sign with a minimum distance of few degrees,say it covers atleast a navamsa or so and becomes retro then delay will be over. 2. If Sa after entering a sign while remaining in the same sign for the duration say arround three months then the delay will be considered over. 3. If Sa stays for a shorter duration and becomes retro while going back to cancer sign (like here) then delay will be not over but it will start showing some progress in this matter. So in this chart,delay will be over after re-entering irrespect it becomes retro on 8thJuly 2007 Regards Anup --- On Fri, 8/1/10, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur@ rediffmail. com> wrote: nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur@ rediffmail. com>Re: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] incomplete saturn delayastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 8 January, 2010, 4:46 PM 08.01.10Sub: Female native, 20.01.1982, 14:35 hrs, 30.19.N; 78.02.E, Asc : 26Ta19. Validation of Marriage date 17.04.2008 by KAS.Dear Ash ji, Anup ji, Ramesh ji and Group,Can I please request for clarification of a technical 'funda' on the basis of the above mentioned chart.In context to the above chart I have noted that :There is full Sa delay. Sa is 29Vi26. Sa enters Leo on 20th Oct 2006 but soon after on 6th Dec 2006 it turns retrograde. So we cannot assume Sa delay to be over on 20th Oct 2006.On 24.01.2007 Sa goes back to the Cancer sign.On 20.04.2007 it stops being retrograde but continue to remain in the Cancer sign. So I think the delay period continues then.08.07.2007 Sa re-enters Leo sign.On 19.12.2007 Saturn becomes retrograde once again in the Leo sign.On 03.05.2008 it stops being retrograde in the Leo sign and thereafter moves only forward in the Leo sign for its remaining stay in this sign.Question: So should not the technical delay of Sa be considered over only on 3rd May 2008 when Sa finally starts moving ahead in this sign?.Will the Sa delay said to be technically over on 08.07.2007 when Saturn re-enters Leo ?Or,Will it be over when Sa finally stops turning retrograde and starts moving only forward in Leo sign which it did from 3rd May 2008 onwards.What is that precise date on which Sa delay here is technically over?Thanks in advance for clarifying this technical issue.Regards,Nikhlesh MathurOn Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:59:42 +0530 wrote>Dear Amit Ji,I got asc. as 28 Ta 15.There is full delay caused by Sa and no delay by Ju but Ju is spoiled due being in Libra and positioned in 6th house in rasi and navamsa too.One very important point is here that the native has blessings between Sa and Ve.Sa is itself a delay causing planet.Sadelay gets over on 20 Oct 06 when Ju antra was passing.Next followingantra is that of Sa.Sa is SD to Ma LoE and it has max.SAV pointfor 7th in WS.Sa being delay causing planet should have given the result in first sector itself but there is one zero in SAV so Sa has given the result in second sector.Thanks and regards.Ramesh Mishra>>rcmastro>>--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit wrote:>>Amit >[astrologyandtiming events] incomplete saturn delay>astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com>Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 8:06 AM>>respected ash ji,anup ji,ramesh ji ,harjeet ji ,prabha ji and other learned members ,this is chart of a female who has saturn in 5th house and inspite of that she did not complete her full saturn delay and got married on 17th april 08,>her details are>20-01-1982>14:39hrs>30n19,78e02>kindly put some light on this incomplete delay.>regards>Amit>>The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Dear Ramesh ji, The main essence of the mail is to provide us with a yardstick to help us judge if the delay will be over in the case when there is a retro effect and the planet enters the sign and then leaves and then re-enters the sign. So when is the delay over. Now here the benchmark is 1 navamsa in transit i.e 3deg20. So if the planet is staying in the house for more than 1 navamsa duration then it means that the delay is not over and then we must wait for it to return back into the preceeding sign. If shani exits the sign and then travels only for a duration which is less than 1 navamsa or less than 3 deg 20 and then returns back then in that case not to wait and u can consider the delay was over so like that. Just think over it, it makes perfect sense. This is a finer point and got to be judged in delicate cases like the case that was discussed. Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Ash Ji, Anup Ji and all, > As per this writeup I am now confused. > In the discussion chart Sa is at 29 Vi 27 at the time of birth. > For calculating the delay period, Sa enters in Leo on 20 Oct 06 at 0 deg 2 min. > I did not calculate the exact time but on this date it was in the position of 0 deg 2 min > then it becomes under retrogression in Leo sign itself at 2 deg on 08 Dec 06. >  > It means he travelled for a period of 2 months 18 days covering the arc of 2 deg 33 min. > It means he travelled only less than a navamsa.. > Therefore according to the para 1 of clarification Sa delay becomes over on 08 Dec 06. >  > Sa enters Karka sign while in retrogression on 24 Jan 07. He covers the arc of 29 Cn 58.. > He covers the distance of only 2 deg 2 min which is again less than a navamsa. >  > Sa becomes direct in Karka on 20 Apr 07 at the arc of 25 Cn 06 >  > Again he moves to Leo sign on 08 Jul 07 at 0 deg. >  > Anup Ji when you consider the end of delay on 08 Jul 07, in that case thiis delay ends in the first sector Sa antra and then Sa antra should not give the event. >  > On the contrary when the end of delay is considered on 20 Oct 06, it falls during Ju antra and then Sa antra is ready to give the event. >  > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > rcmastro > > --- On Sun, 10/1/10, Ash's Corner <kas wrote: > > > Ash's Corner <kas > RE: Re: incomplete saturn delay > > Sunday, 10 January, 2010, 8:30 AM > > >  > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, >  > An excellent and powerful mail J and very good insight into the finer nuance of delay. >  > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca >  > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of Anup. M > Saturday January 9, 2010 6:35 AM > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > Re: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] incomplete saturn delay >  >  > >   Dear Nikhlesh ji and group, > >  > > >     Here are few points as guruji tought regarding Sa delay. > >    Lets take this chart as an example for this learning. > >  > > >    When Sa enters in leo (previous sign) and becomes retro and return back > >    to cancer then delay will not be over.But if Sa re-enter in leo sign then > >    delay will be over. > >  > >  > >    Few clarifications are... > >  > > 1. if Sa enters a sign with a minimum distance of few degrees,say it >    covers atleast a navamsa or so and becomes retro then delay will be over. > >  > > > 2. If Sa after entering a sign while remaining in the same sign for the duration > >     say arround three months then the delay will be considered over. > >  > >  > > 3. If Sa stays for a shorter duration and becomes retro while going back to cancer > >    sign (like here) then delay will be not over but it will start showing some > >     progress in this matter.    > > >    So in this chart,delay will be over after re-entering irrespect it becomes retro > >    on 8thJuly 2007 > >  > >  > >    Regards >    Anup > > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > --- On Fri, 8/1/10, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur@ rediffmail. com> wrote: > > > nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur@ rediffmail. com> > Re: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] incomplete saturn delay > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > Friday, 8 January, 2010, 4:46 PM > >  > > > > 08.01.10 > > Sub: Female native, 20.01.1982, 14:35 hrs, 30.19.N; 78.02.E, Asc : 26Ta19. Validation of Marriage date 17.04.2008 by KAS. > > Dear Ash ji, Anup ji, Ramesh ji and Group, > > Can I please request for clarification of a technical 'funda' on the basis of the above mentioned chart. > > In context to the above chart I have noted that : > > There is full Sa delay. Sa is 29Vi26. Sa enters Leo on 20th Oct 2006 but soon after on 6th Dec 2006 it turns retrograde. So we cannot assume Sa delay to be over on 20th Oct 2006. > > On 24.01.2007 Sa goes back to the Cancer sign. > > On 20.04.2007 it stops being retrograde but continue to remain in the Cancer sign. So I think the delay period continues then. > > 08.07.2007 Sa re-enters Leo sign. > > On 19.12.2007 Saturn becomes retrograde once again in the Leo sign. > > On 03.05.2008 it stops being retrograde in the Leo sign and thereafter moves only forward in the Leo sign for its remaining stay in this sign. > > Question: > > So should not the technical delay of Sa be considered over only on 3rd May 2008 when Sa finally starts moving ahead in this sign?. > > Will the Sa delay said to be technically over on 08.07.2007 when Saturn re-enters Leo ? > > Or, > > Will it be over when Sa finally stops turning retrograde and starts moving only forward in Leo sign which it did from 3rd May 2008 onwards. > > What is that precise date on which Sa delay here is technically over? > > Thanks in advance for clarifying this technical issue. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:59:42 +0530 wrote > > > > > > Dear Amit Ji, > I got asc. as 28 Ta 15. > There is full delay caused by Sa and no delay by Ju but Ju is spoiled due being in Libra and positioned in 6th house in rasi and navamsa too. > One very important point is here that the native has blessings between Sa and Ve. > Sa is itself a delay causing planet. > Sadelay gets over on 20 Oct 06 when Ju antra was passing. > Next followingantra is that of Sa. > Sa is SD to Ma LoE and it has max.SAV pointfor 7th in WS. > Sa being delay causing planet should have given the result in first sector itself but there is one zero in SAV so Sa has given the result in second sector. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > > >rcmastro > > > >--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Amit wrote: > > > > >Amit > >[astrologyandtiming events] incomplete saturn delay > >astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > >Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 8:06 AM > > > > > > > respected ash ji,anup ji,ramesh ji ,harjeet ji ,prabha ji and other learned members ,this is chart of a female who has saturn in 5th house and inspite of that she did not complete her full saturn delay and got married on 17th april 08, > >her details are > >20-01-1982 > >14:39hrs > >30n19,78e02 > >kindly put some light on this incomplete delay. > >regards > >Amit > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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