Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage

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Respected Ashji

" Ju aspects 2nd house but it conjoins 7th lord but Ju has 5 bindus. Therefore Ju

will not cause delay. It also does not aspect Sa in navamsa. So no delay due to

Ju either. "

In the chart, why did you say that because Ju is with 5 points so there is no Ju

delay.

Thanks

Prabha

 

 

, " Ash's Corner " <kas

wrote:

>

> Dear Chakraborty ji and list members

>

> Thanks to my friend for bring this mail to my attention. Due to lack of time,

I am unable to follow the discussions.

>

> Chakraborty ji, No, not like that. MD gives the Karaktwa and AD is used for

timing of event. The primary rule of Vimshottari dasha is that if MD is not

favourable and AD is favourable then the event will happen and the reverse i.e.

if MD is fabourable and AD is not favourable then event will not happen.

>

> So, the timing of event is dependent on the power of antar dasha. So this is

basic.

>

> So it is not necessary for a person to run Ve MD to get married or Ju MD to

have a child, if u get what I mean. These are natural Karaks. Karak definition

is as per KAS i.e. 8th lord in Kalpurush chart for natural karak and 8th lord

from natal chart for Functional Karak.

>

> Lets take Bhaskar ji’s chart, and his date of marriage. The data I have is

>

> 28th June 1961

> 10:15 AM

> 16N45

> 81E09.

>

> KAY : 22:25:36

>

> Degree of planets

>

> Planet Degrees

> As 16 Le 54

> Su 13 Ge 50

> Mo 9 Sg 17

> Ma 7 Le 7

> MeR 12 Ge 44

> JuR 13 Cp 2

> Ve 28 Ar 21

> SaR 5 Cp 38

> Ra 7 Le 29

> Ke 7 Aq 29

>

> KAS Power

>

>

> Hse

> SAV

> Su

> Mo

> Ma

> Me

> Ju

> Ve

> Sa

>

> 1

> 31

> 2

> 8

> 4

> 1

> 20

> 18

> 26

>

> 2

> 26

> 7

> 13

> 8

> 22

> 10

> 14

> 27

>

> 3

> 33

> 15

> 17

> 7

> 15

> 18

> 6

> 12

>

> 4

> 35

> 18

> 1

> 22

> 10

> 15

> 19

> 13

>

> 5

> 21

> 2

> 12

> 5

> 15

> 7

> 19

> 7

>

> 6

> 27

> 5

> 14

> 10

> 25

> 10

> 19

> 11

>

> 7

> 27

> 15

> 16

> 14

> 14

> 12

> 9

> 10

>

> 8

> 26

> 17

> 17

> 10

> 5

> 16

> 5

> 9

>

> 9

> 30

> 6

> 11

> 9

> 23

> 20

> 19

> 31

>

> 10

> 32

> 6

> 8

> 7

> 1

> 3

> 16

> 27

>

> 11

> 32

> 6

> 7

> 16

> 6

> 19

> 6

> 12

>

> 12

> 17

> 7

> 13

> 15

> 9

> 18

> 19

> 9

>

>

> Now, for repeatable laws for Timing of Event.

>

> Delay due to Saturn

>

> 2nd lord and 11th lord are Mercury and 7th lord is Sa.

>

> Saturn is not aspecting Mercury in Rasi or Navamsa therefore no delay by

Saturn.

>

> Delay due to Jupiter.

>

> Ju aspects 2nd house but it conjoins 7th lord but Ju has 5 bindus. Therefore

Ju will not cause delay. It also does not aspect Sa in navamsa. So no delay

due to Ju either.

>

> There are no 0’s in SAV either so no delay indicate so far.

>

> Lagna and 9th lords of Rasi are in 5:9 indicates that there is blessing i.e Su

and Ma.

>

> So there is no delay and there is blessing so due to that, he will get

married.

>

> 21 is legal age to marry in India so from the above KAS power you can see that

Moon has the highest power.

>

>

>

> Antardasha

> Start

> To

>

> Sun

> 1983-Aug-13

> 1983-Nov-30

>

> Moon

> 1983-Nov-30

> 1984-May-31

>

> Mars

> 1984-May-31

> 1984-Oct-06

>

> Rahu

> 1984-Oct-06

> 1985-Aug-31

>

> Jupiter

> 1985-Aug-31

> 1986-Jun-19

>

> Saturn

> 1986-Jun-19

> 1987-Jun-01

>

> Mercury

> 1987-Jun-01

> 1988-Apr-06

>

> Ketu

> 1988-Apr-06

> 1988-Aug-12

>

> Venus

> 1988-Aug-12

> 1989-Aug-12

>

> Moon has 16 points and it is Lord of 4th house (LoD) so most eager. Moon is

in 5th house, so House E or upchay for 12th with 6 bindus so again its

triggering 12th house so house of bed pleasures. For 5th house too it has 12

points so since this will be arranged marriage due to blessing which indicates

that the native will not oppose his father as he will have full respect for him.

>

> So as far as Timing of Event goes, it will happen in Highest power planet.

Therefore Moon gave the result.

>

> Next is the selection of the period, then since we selected Moon to give

marriage we can select the next 2 most powerful planets in the KAS power table

and use that to find the transit of sun.

>

> So on 9th May 1984, Sun transits the sign and nak of Ma and Sun (13 days

toleration is acceptable on either side of event). Ma is LoE i.e. 12th lord and

Sun has second highest power. So it gave marriage.

>

> Mo = 16 and trasit of Sun over Su-Ma (16-14) points.

>

> These laws are repeatable and can be checked in 2 other charts I had solved on

this list and it must be in the archives as well or studying the repeatability

of technique.

>

> Now, here if u notice, I am checking MD but its not a factor to NOT give

marriage. This chart has promise of marriage and for timing MD was not a

factor.

>

> Yes, here Me is Karak for marriage (FK) as its 2nd lord but MD of Sun is

running. So here Sun will show the karkatwa. Sun is Lagna lord so karak for

6th and its in 11th house with 4 bindus. Sun is samdharmi to Mercury who is

Karak so there is a link. Sun is also natural karak for authority i.e. 10th

house (5th lord, 8th from 10th).

>

> So these will be the “touch†or say “flavor†in all the antra’s in

Sun MD. So after marriage, the focus will be more on work, authority, happiness

(karak for 4th) as its in 11th house (8th from 4th), means kutumbik sukh etc

etc. His wife will be from a well to do family and will bring him good name and

respect, as Su is conjoined Me, karak for authority is with karak for marriage

so like that.

>

> Infact, in KAS we say that Marriage will happen in the antra of 4th lord or

12th lord or planets in these house. It does not have to be linked to 7th

house. 4th and 12th house are upchay to 7th and also 2nd i.e. karak and phal

sthan.

>

> The result of 7th house i.e Phal sthan (B) will depend on Karak (A), Phalit

© and samrudhi sthan i.e. D and E so in normal language

>

> The timing of 7th house result will depend on 2nd house (Karak), 11th house

(phalit), and 4th and 12th house samrudhi sthan.

>

> 3000+ members are here, all can check if they are married in the antra they

were married in. Yes one must use Krushna ayanamsa which is about 54 mins less

than lahiri.

>

> I hope its clear.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

>

>

>

> , " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > If I remember correctly, Ash-ji (of KAS Sageasita forum, also a member

> > of our AIA group) has done some statistical analysis about marriage and

> > role of different MD/AD.

> >

> > What I remember, 90% correlation was not achieved by any MD/AD lord.

> >

> > I will search the same when I get some time.

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Chakraborty

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

On Behalf Of Manoj Kumar

> > Monday, November 09, 2009 2:06 PM

> >

> > Re: Re: Looking for Practical inputs on

Timing marriage

> >

> >

> >

> > Over 90% of marriages shall take place in dasha of planets connected with

Lagna/7th house of birth chart and navamsha.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Mouji

> >

> > ________________________________

> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@>

> >

> > Mon, November 9, 2009 1:40:19 PM

> > Re: Re: Looking for Practical inputs on

Timing marriage

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Gopu ji,

> >

> > If Rahu is karaka for marriage (some call him Rahu-Byahu in the northern

Hindi belt), then how can one escape Ketu when he gets his seat in 7th from

Rahu. If not Ketu, who else!

> >

> > But on a serious note, let us test this theory practically on some charts

and ask Vandana ji to demonstrate it for us.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

> >

> >

> > 2009/11/9 gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 <gopi_b927@>>

> >

> >

> > Dear Chakraborty ji and vandana ji

> > HA,HA that's why astrology is wonderful super science.Sanivad Rahu;Kujavad

ketu it is said.May be it has got something to do with it.Kuja is the L/L & 8L

of natural zodiac.8th is 2nd(family) from 7th.May be Vandana ji can clarify.....

...

> > Regards,

> > gopi.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com, " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vandana-ji,

> > >

> > > I am trying to understand the system.

> > >

> > > From Ketu's dispositor, counting to be started.

> > > From this system, marriage age will come in multiple

> > > of 12 years only.

> > >

> > > Marriage may also come from 7th of Ketu's dispositor.

> > > So, marriage may come in 19/31/38years and so on.

> > >

> > > If marraige comes from Ketu, then year of marriage

> > > will depend on distance between Ketu & it's dispositor

> > >

> > > Similarly for 7th from Ketu.

> > >

> > > So, looking at the probability of early/delayed/ very delayed

> > > marriage, one has to pick up a suitable year.

> > >

> > > Thanks for this gem of technique.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Chakraborty

> > >

> > > PS..... I do wonder why Ketu is deciding marriage.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com [ancient_indian_

astrology] On

Behalf Of vijay.goel

> > > Monday, November 09, 2009 11:20 AM

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs on

Timing marriage

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Vandana Ji,

> > >

> > > The use of ketu dispositer as your have explained is totally new to me.

> > >

> > > Thankyou for sharing this info, and regards to your generous teachers.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com<ancient_indian_

astrology% 40.

com<%2540>>, Vandna Misra

vandana_mishra_ 91@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Bhaskarji,

> > > > while judging a chart few things which we keep in mind is Desh, kal ,and

patra.then we try to findout wheather the chart is of early marriage,or delay

marriage. i don't think it isÃÆ'‚ very difficult to find out.

> > > > Now you can apply the rules,it goes like that,check ketu's dispositor in

the chart,in your chart it is saturn placed in sixth houseÃÆ'‚ ,note the

saturn and seventh from it,we have to start counting from saturn ,to complete

the circle when we reachÃÆ'‚ saturn again 12 years completed.since twelve

years is not the age of getting married we have to move further next time when

we reached saturn it would be 24 years, crucial age to get

married.in<http://married.in/> your caseÃÆ'‚ I don't see much delay in

your marriage so i decided thatÃÆ'‚ 24ÃÆ'‚ has to beÃÆ'‚

expected age of getting married.note that it is not just saturnÃÆ'‚ and 7

from it but also,,ketu and 7 from it which can decide the exact age.for instance

if it would have been delayed marriage I would have suggested 30ÃÆ'‚ {7

from saturn}ÃÆ'‚ or 31{7 from ketu}ÃÆ'‚ age for marriage.

> > > > while narrowing down the age group it is essential to note dasha pattern

running at that time plus -minus six months will do as we all know it is dasha

and transits which fructify the events.

> > > > Kindly don't ask me the source of this rule as these tested parameters

are theÃÆ'‚ nector poured by ourÃÆ'‚ teachers who areÃÆ'‚

devoting their lives in the devine service of astrology and selflessly

distributing among their pupils.sharing the knowledge is my way of showing

gratuitude towards them.

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > Regards.

> > > > Vandana Mishra

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > - On Sun, 11/8/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs on

Timing marriage

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com<ancient_indian_

astrology% 40.

com<%2540>>

> > > > Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:41 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vandana ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thank You for your inputs. My Date of marriage is 9th May 1984. Please

> > > > share the other method please. I am like a warrior who likes to learn

> > > > use of various weapons for warfare, and always curious to learn so. The

> > > > marriage timing part is very essential to be successful in field of

> > > > astrology. If one can do this then it does not take long for him to

> > > > become respected and well known in his circles. I consider that in fact

> > > > every astrologer must consider himself as an astrologer only if he is

> > > > able to overcome this Query in the beginning of his professional Career.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna Misra

> > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Bhaskarji,

> > > > > In my view the age 24,or 25 year 1985 is crucial

forÃÆ'ƒâ€š yourÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > marriage.this time i have neither checked dasha nor transits.kindly

> > > > confirm if it is correct i can further go ahead and shared the forum

> > > > with another tool ofÃÆ'ƒâ€š predicting correct year of

marriage.

> > > > > Regards.

> > > > > Vandana Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for Practical inputs

> > > > on Timing marriage

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Saturday, November 7, 2009, 9:30 AM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vandana ji,

> > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > I understand that the double transit of these slow moving planets

> > > > triggers the marriage.

> > > > > To put in straight sentences, both Jupiter and Saturn in transit

> > > > should touch either of these-

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > From Lagna (Jupiter)

> > > > > Lagna Lord and 7th Lord or

> > > > > Lagna and 7th Lord or

> > > > > Lagna and 7th House or

> > > > > Lagna Lord and 7th house.

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > Repeat from Lagna (Saturn)

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > Repeat above 8 points from Moon Lagna.

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > I feel that aboveÃÆ'ƒâ€š points being touched by

Jupiter or Saturn, could

> > > > happen at several

> > > > > times in a persons Life, and this could be too confusing and leave one

> > > > with a headache

> > > > > by the time he finishes studying, noting and writing down above

> > > > transits on a piece of

> > > > > paper. Or does it not happen several times ? I am not sure. We will

> > > > have to check

> > > > > this on a number of Horoscopes to understand.

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > What is the easiest way to go through above process ?

> > > > > from where to begin ?

> > > > > How should one start checking ?

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > The second rule mentioned, about Sodya Pinda I have not tried, so

> > > > cannot comment. Need someone to help me here.

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > Shall await the illustrations, and thanks once again to take pains for

> > > > replying.ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > You can also take my own chart if you wish, to illustrate.

> > > > > DOB 28th June 1961. 10.15amÃÆ'ƒâ€š Eluru 16.45N

81.09E

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Vandna Misra

> > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > Yes,it is astrological truth that for fructification of any events

> > > > especially marriage double transit of jupiter and sat

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š is very

> > > > important.right now i am presenting only rules,but later i will

> > > > definitely explain with few examples.for sat its connection with 7h

> > > > 7l,either from lagna or moon sign is important in determining the year

> > > > of marriage of course dasha must promised.

> > > > > > since jupiter transits for 13 months it helps in narrow down the

> > > > date of marriage.its connection with 7h,7l further confirm nearest dates

> > > > of months.mars manglya karaka making any connection with marriage

> > > > related houses decides months.

> > > > > > so far BAV of venus goes there is one rule,if we multiply the

> > > > shodhya pind of venus by the bindus in 7 from venus,divide by 27 and

> > > > count the remainder from aswani.when jupiter passes over this nak,or its

> > > > trines marriage may takes place.

> > > > > > I Will definetely explain with example in my next mail.

> > > > > > Regards.

> > > > > > Vandana Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Looking for Practical inputs on

> > > > Timing marriage

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:25 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Looking for Practical inputs on Timing marriage

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > There are many dictums which teach us how to determine the timing of

> > > > > > marriage. But most of them are too confusing and require a good

> > > > number

> > > > > > of critical planets in the chart, to be touched in transits. The end

> > > > results is

> > > > > > that a astrologer lands up with several dates of marriage which does

> > > > not

> > > > > > conclusively tell actually when the marriage will really take place.

> > > > If

> > > > > > we give several dates of marriage to a native, he will either throw

> > > > > > us out of his house, or will stop visiting our house.

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > 1)Saturn transit (As he is Kaal the time keeper), Jupiter transit

> > > > > > (For blessings) and Mars transit (For Mangalya) are again the

> > > > indicators

> > > > > > of marriage. How do we use these transits effectively

?ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > 2) Sodhya Pinda of Venus, BAV of Venus, and determination of the

> > > > > > right point, on which Jupiter transits, will determine Nakshatra

> > > > over

> > > > > > which Jupiter transits will again determine timing of marriage .How

> > > > > > to do this ?

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > Can anybody explain this in simple language without too much theory

> > > > > > or presenting shlokas, but illustrate with 2 examples, how to do

> > > > > > this ?

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > Please do not bring

inÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

Divisional charts, except maybe for

> > > > Navamsha,

> > > > > > and do not bring in KP

too.ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Prabha JI,

 

Lession 36 have text as below.

 

"Also when considering malefic aspects of Jupiter, we ONLY consider

the 5, 7 and 9

aspects, never the conjunction. Therefore, if Jupiter aspects

one house or lord and

conjoins another house or lord it does NOT cause a delay."

 

This tells that if Ju aspects A/LoA and cojoin LoB/B and Ju is having

more than 4 points it can not cause Ju Delay.

 

--hope this helps

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

 

prabha wrote:

 

 

Respected Ashji

"Ju aspects 2nd house but it conjoins 7th lord but Ju has 5 bindus.

Therefore Ju will not cause delay. It also does not aspect Sa in

navamsa. So no delay due to Ju either."

In the chart, why did you say that because Ju is with 5 points so there

is no Ju delay.

Thanks

Prabha

 

 

,

"Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Chakraborty ji and list members

>

> Thanks to my friend for bring this mail to my attention. Due to

lack of time, I am unable to follow the discussions.

>

> Chakraborty ji, No, not like that. MD gives the Karaktwa and AD is

used for timing of event. The primary rule of Vimshottari dasha is that

if MD is not favourable and AD is favourable then the event will happen

and the reverse i.e. if MD is fabourable and AD is not favourable then

event will not happen.

>

> So, the timing of event is dependent on the power of antar dasha.

So this is basic.

>

> So it is not necessary for a person to run Ve MD to get married or

Ju MD to have a child, if u get what I mean. These are natural Karaks.

Karak definition is as per KAS i.e. 8th lord in Kalpurush chart for

natural karak and 8th lord from natal chart for Functional Karak.

>

> Lets take Bhaskar ji’s chart, and his date of marriage. The data

I have is

>

> 28th June 1961

> 10:15 AM

> 16N45

> 81E09.

>

> KAY : 22:25:36

>

> Degree of planets

>

> Planet Degrees

> As 16 Le 54

> Su 13 Ge 50

> Mo 9 Sg 17

> Ma 7 Le 7

> MeR 12 Ge 44

> JuR 13 Cp 2

> Ve 28 Ar 21

> SaR 5 Cp 38

> Ra 7 Le 29

> Ke 7 Aq 29

>

> KAS Power

>

>

> Hse

> SAV

> Su

> Mo

> Ma

> Me

> Ju

> Ve

> Sa

>

> 1

> 31

> 2

> 8

> 4

> 1

> 20

> 18

> 26

>

> 2

> 26

> 7

> 13

> 8

> 22

> 10

> 14

> 27

>

> 3

> 33

> 15

> 17

> 7

> 15

> 18

> 6

> 12

>

> 4

> 35

> 18

> 1

> 22

> 10

> 15

> 19

> 13

>

> 5

> 21

> 2

> 12

> 5

> 15

> 7

> 19

> 7

>

> 6

> 27

> 5

> 14

> 10

> 25

> 10

> 19

> 11

>

> 7

> 27

> 15

> 16

> 14

> 14

> 12

> 9

> 10

>

> 8

> 26

> 17

> 17

> 10

> 5

> 16

> 5

> 9

>

> 9

> 30

> 6

> 11

> 9

> 23

> 20

> 19

> 31

>

> 10

> 32

> 6

> 8

> 7

> 1

> 3

> 16

> 27

>

> 11

> 32

> 6

> 7

> 16

> 6

> 19

> 6

> 12

>

> 12

> 17

> 7

> 13

> 15

> 9

> 18

> 19

> 9

>

>

> Now, for repeatable laws for Timing of Event.

>

> Delay due to Saturn

>

> 2nd lord and 11th lord are Mercury and 7th lord is Sa.

>

> Saturn is not aspecting Mercury in Rasi or Navamsa therefore no

delay by Saturn.

>

> Delay due to Jupiter.

>

> Ju aspects 2nd house but it conjoins 7th lord but Ju has 5 bindus.

Therefore Ju will not cause delay. It also does not aspect Sa in

navamsa. So no delay due to Ju either.

>

> There are no 0’s in SAV either so no delay indicate so far.

>

> Lagna and 9th lords of Rasi are in 5:9 indicates that there is

blessing i.e Su and Ma.

>

> So there is no delay and there is blessing so due to that, he will

get married.

>

> 21 is legal age to marry in India so from the above KAS power you

can see that Moon has the highest power.

>

>

>

> Antardasha

> Start

> To

>

> Sun

> 1983-Aug-13

> 1983-Nov-30

>

> Moon

> 1983-Nov-30

> 1984-May-31

>

> Mars

> 1984-May-31

> 1984-Oct-06

>

> Rahu

> 1984-Oct-06

> 1985-Aug-31

>

> Jupiter

> 1985-Aug-31

> 1986-Jun-19

>

> Saturn

> 1986-Jun-19

> 1987-Jun-01

>

> Mercury

> 1987-Jun-01

> 1988-Apr-06

>

> Ketu

> 1988-Apr-06

> 1988-Aug-12

>

> Venus

> 1988-Aug-12

> 1989-Aug-12

>

> Moon has 16 points and it is Lord of 4th house (LoD) so most

eager. Moon is in 5th house, so House E or upchay for 12th with 6

bindus so again its triggering 12th house so house of bed pleasures.

For 5th house too it has 12 points so since this will be arranged

marriage due to blessing which indicates that the native will not

oppose his father as he will have full respect for him.

>

> So as far as Timing of Event goes, it will happen in Highest power

planet. Therefore Moon gave the result.

>

> Next is the selection of the period, then since we selected Moon

to give marriage we can select the next 2 most powerful planets in the

KAS power table and use that to find the transit of sun.

>

> So on 9th May 1984, Sun transits the sign and nak of Ma and Sun

(13 days toleration is acceptable on either side of event). Ma is LoE

i.e. 12th lord and Sun has second highest power. So it gave marriage.

>

> Mo = 16 and trasit of Sun over Su-Ma (16-14) points.

>

> These laws are repeatable and can be checked in 2 other charts I

had solved on this list and it must be in the archives as well or

studying the repeatability of technique.

>

> Now, here if u notice, I am checking MD but its not a factor to

NOT give marriage. This chart has promise of marriage and for timing MD

was not a factor.

>

> Yes, here Me is Karak for marriage (FK) as its 2nd lord but MD of

Sun is running. So here Sun will show the karkatwa. Sun is Lagna lord

so karak for 6th and its in 11th house with 4 bindus. Sun is samdharmi

to Mercury who is Karak so there is a link. Sun is also natural karak

for authority i.e. 10th house (5th lord, 8th from 10th).

>

> So these will be the “touch†or say “flavor†in all the

antra’s in Sun MD. So after marriage, the focus will be more on work,

authority, happiness (karak for 4th) as its in 11th house (8th from

4th), means kutumbik sukh etc etc. His wife will be from a well to do

family and will bring him good name and respect, as Su is conjoined Me,

karak for authority is with karak for marriage so like that.

>

> Infact, in KAS we say that Marriage will happen in the antra of

4th lord or 12th lord or planets in these house. It does not have to be

linked to 7th house. 4th and 12th house are upchay to 7th and also 2nd

i.e. karak and phal sthan.

>

> The result of 7th house i.e Phal sthan (B) will depend on Karak

(A), Phalit © and samrudhi sthan i.e. D and E so in normal language

>

> The timing of 7th house result will depend on 2nd house (Karak),

11th house (phalit), and 4th and 12th house samrudhi sthan.

>

> 3000+ members are here, all can check if they are married in the

antra they were married in. Yes one must use Krushna ayanamsa which is

about 54 mins less than lahiri.

>

> I hope its clear.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

>

>

>

>

> ,

"Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > If I remember correctly, Ash-ji (of KAS Sageasita forum, also

a member

> > of our AIA group) has done some statistical analysis about

marriage and

> > role of different MD/AD.

> >

> > What I remember, 90% correlation was not achieved by any

MD/AD lord.

> >

> > I will search the same when I get some time.

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Chakraborty

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

 

On Behalf Of Manoj Kumar

> > Monday, November 09, 2009 2:06 PM

> >

> > Re: Re: Looking for

Practical inputs on Timing marriage

> >

> >

> >

> > Over 90% of marriages shall take place in dasha of planets

connected with Lagna/7th house of birth chart and navamsha.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Mouji

> >

> > ________________________________

> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@>

> >

> > Mon, November 9, 2009 1:40:19 PM

> > Re: Re: Looking for

Practical inputs on Timing marriage

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Gopu ji,

> >

> > If Rahu is karaka for marriage (some call him Rahu-Byahu in

the northern Hindi belt), then how can one escape Ketu when he gets his

seat in 7th from Rahu. If not Ketu, who else!

> >

> > But on a serious note, let us test this theory practically on

some charts and ask Vandana ji to demonstrate it for us.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

> >

> >

> > 2009/11/9 gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 (AT) (DOT)

com<gopi_b927@>>

> >

> >

> > Dear Chakraborty ji and vandana ji

> > HA,HA that's why astrology is wonderful super science.Sanivad

Rahu;Kujavad ketu it is said.May be it has got something to do with

it.Kuja is the L/L & 8L of natural zodiac.8th is 2nd(family) from

7th.May be Vandana ji can clarify..... ..

> > Regards,

> > gopi.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology,

"Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vandana-ji,

> > >

> > > I am trying to understand the system.

> > >

> > > From Ketu's dispositor, counting to be started.

> > > From this system, marriage age will come in multiple

> > > of 12 years only.

> > >

> > > Marriage may also come from 7th of Ketu's dispositor.

> > > So, marriage may come in 19/31/38years and so on.

> > >

> > > If marraige comes from Ketu, then year of marriage

> > > will depend on distance between Ketu & it's

dispositor

> > >

> > > Similarly for 7th from Ketu.

> > >

> > > So, looking at the probability of early/delayed/ very

delayed

> > > marriage, one has to pick up a suitable year.

> > >

> > > Thanks for this gem of technique.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Chakraborty

> > >

> > > PS..... I do wonder why Ketu is deciding marriage.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com

[ancient_indian_ astrology]

On Behalf Of vijay.goel

> > > Monday, November 09, 2009 11:20 AM

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking for

Practical inputs on Timing marriage

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Vandana Ji,

> > >

> > > The use of ketu dispositer as your have explained is

totally new to me.

> > >

> > > Thankyou for sharing this info, and regards to your

generous teachers.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com<ancient_indian_

astrology% 40. com<%2540>>,

Vandna Misra vandana_mishra_ 91@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Bhaskarji,

> > > > while judging a chart few things which we keep in

mind is Desh, kal ,and patra.then we try to findout wheather the chart

is of early marriage,or delay marriage. i don't think it isÃÆ'‚

very difficult to find out.

> > > > Now you can apply the rules,it goes like that,check

ketu's dispositor in the chart,in your chart it is saturn placed in

sixth houseÃÆ'‚ ,note the saturn and seventh from it,we have to

start counting from saturn ,to complete the circle when we

reachÃÆ'‚ saturn again 12 years completed.since twelve years is

not the age of getting married we have to move further next time when

we reached saturn it would be 24 years, crucial age to get

married.in<http://married.in/>

your caseÃÆ'‚ I don't see much delay in your marriage so i

decided thatÃÆ'‚ 24ÃÆ'‚ has to beÃÆ'‚ expected age

of getting married.note that it is not just saturnÃÆ'‚ and 7

from it but also,,ketu and 7 from it which can decide the exact age.for

instance if it would have been delayed marriage I would have suggested

30ÃÆ'‚ {7 from saturn}ÃÆ'‚ or 31{7 from ketu}ÃÆ'‚

age for marriage.

> > > > while narrowing down the age group it is essential

to note dasha pattern running at that time plus -minus six months will

do as we all know it is dasha and transits which fructify the events.

> > > > Kindly don't ask me the source of this rule as

these tested parameters are theÃÆ'‚ nector poured by

ourÃÆ'‚ teachers who areÃÆ'‚ devoting their lives in the

devine service of astrology and selflessly distributing among their

pupils.sharing the knowledge is my way of showing gratuitude towards

them.

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > Regards.

> > > > Vandana Mishra

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > - On Sun, 11/8/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Looking

for Practical inputs on Timing marriage

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com<ancient_indian_

astrology% 40. com<%2540>>

> > > > Sunday, November 8, 2009, 6:41 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vandana ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thank You for your inputs. My Date of marriage is

9th May 1984. Please

> > > > share the other method please. I am like a warrior

who likes to learn

> > > > use of various weapons for warfare, and always

curious to learn so. The

> > > > marriage timing part is very essential to be

successful in field of

> > > > astrology. If one can do this then it does not take

long for him to

> > > > become respected and well known in his circles. I

consider that in fact

> > > > every astrologer must consider himself as an

astrologer only if he is

> > > > able to overcome this Query in the beginning of his

professional Career.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

Vandna Misra

> > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Bhaskarji,

> > > > > In my view the age 24,or 25 year 1985 is

crucial forÃÆ'ƒâ€š yourÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > marriage.this time i have neither checked dasha nor

transits.kindly

> > > > confirm if it is correct i can further go ahead and

shared the forum

> > > > with another tool ofÃÆ'ƒâ€š

predicting correct year of marriage.

> > > > > Regards.

> > > > > Vandana Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

.... wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:

Looking for Practical inputs

> > > > on Timing marriage

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Saturday, November 7, 2009, 9:30 AM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vandana ji,

> > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > I understand that the double transit of these

slow moving planets

> > > > triggers the marriage.

> > > > > To put in straight sentences, both Jupiter and

Saturn in transit

> > > > should touch either of these-

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > From Lagna (Jupiter)

> > > > > Lagna Lord and 7th Lord or

> > > > > Lagna and 7th Lord or

> > > > > Lagna and 7th House or

> > > > > Lagna Lord and 7th house.

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > Repeat from Lagna (Saturn)

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > Repeat above 8 points from Moon Lagna.

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > I feel that aboveÃÆ'ƒâ€š

points being touched by Jupiter or Saturn, could

> > > > happen at several

> > > > > times in a persons Life, and this could be too

confusing and leave one

> > > > with a headache

> > > > > by the time he finishes studying, noting and

writing down above

> > > > transits on a piece of

> > > > > paper. Or does it not happen several times ? I

am not sure. We will

> > > > have to check

> > > > > this on a number of Horoscopes to understand.

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > What is the easiest way to go through above

process ?

> > > > > from where to begin ?

> > > > > How should one start checking ?

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > The second rule mentioned, about Sodya Pinda I

have not tried, so

> > > > cannot comment. Need someone to help me here.

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > Shall await the illustrations, and thanks once

again to take pains for

> > > > replying.ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > You can also take my own chart if you wish, to

illustrate.

> > > > > DOB 28th June 1961.

10.15amÃÆ'ƒâ€š Eluru 16.45N 81.09E

> > > > > ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com, Vandna Misra

> > > > <vandana_mishra_ 91@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > Yes,it is astrological truth that for

fructification of any events

> > > > especially marriage double transit of jupiter and

sat

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

is very

> > > > important.right now i am presenting only rules,but

later i will

> > > > definitely explain with few examples.for sat its

connection with 7h

> > > > 7l,either from lagna or moon sign is important in

determining the year

> > > > of marriage of course dasha must promised.

> > > > > > since jupiter transits for 13 months it

helps in narrow down the

> > > > date of marriage.its connection with 7h,7l further

confirm nearest dates

> > > > of months.mars manglya karaka making any connection

with marriage

> > > > related houses decides months.

> > > > > > so far BAV of venus goes there is one

rule,if we multiply the

> > > > shodhya pind of venus by the bindus in 7 from

venus,divide by 27 and

> > > > count the remainder from aswani.when jupiter passes

over this nak,or its

> > > > trines marriage may takes place.

> > > > > > I Will definetely explain with example in

my next mail.

> > > > > > Regards.

> > > > > > Vandana Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Bhaskar

bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology]

Looking for Practical inputs on

> > > > Timing marriage

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

> > > > > > Saturday, November 7, 2009, 6:25 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Looking for Practical inputs on Timing

marriage

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > There are many dictums which teach us how

to determine the timing of

> > > > > > marriage. But most of them are too

confusing and require a good

> > > > number

> > > > > > of critical planets in the chart, to be

touched in transits. The end

> > > > results is

> > > > > > that a astrologer lands up with several

dates of marriage which does

> > > > not

> > > > > > conclusively tell actually when the

marriage will really take place.

> > > > If

> > > > > > we give several dates of marriage to a

native, he will either throw

> > > > > > us out of his house, or will stop

visiting our house.

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > 1)Saturn transit (As he is Kaal the time

keeper), Jupiter transit

> > > > > > (For blessings) and Mars transit (For

Mangalya) are again the

> > > > indicators

> > > > > > of marriage. How do we use these transits

effectively

?ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > 2) Sodhya Pinda of Venus, BAV of Venus,

and determination of the

> > > > > > right point, on which Jupiter transits,

will determine Nakshatra

> > > > over

> > > > > > which Jupiter transits will again

determine timing of marriage .How

> > > > > > to do this ?

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > Can anybody explain this in simple

language without too much theory

> > > > > > or presenting shlokas, but illustrate

with 2 examples, how to do

> > > > > > this ?

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > Please do not bring

inÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

Divisional charts, except maybe for

> > > > Navamsha,

> > > > > > and do not bring in KP

too.ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Į'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'ƒâ€š

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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