Guest guest Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. Female 24-Oct-1975 11.20 PM(given birth time) Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. 3)Her health is not good. 4)She is very Intelligent. 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. With best Wishes Hussein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 05.04.10 Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 Dear Hussein ji and Group, For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. given events are; 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. 2. Ju delay in force. 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when the opportunity comes to your door). 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. Female 24-Oct-1975 11.20 PM(given birth time) Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. 3)Her health is not good. 4)She is very Intelligent. 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. With best Wishes Hussein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Dear Nikhlesh ji Thank you for your analysis,but this huge difference in Birth time is not acceptable ,as it has recorded in hospital.Yes,it may needs birth time rectification,but not with this huge difference. Best Wishes Hussein , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > 05.04.10 > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. given events are; > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when the opportunity comes to your door). > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > Female > > 24-Oct-1975 > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. > > > > With best Wishes > > > > Hussein > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am Regards Anjna , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > 05.04.10 > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. given events are; > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when the opportunity comes to your door). > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > Female > > 24-Oct-1975 > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. > > > > With best Wishes > > > > Hussein > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing something. I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being intelligent). I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my leisure time. So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am Regards Anjna , "nikhlesh mathur" wrote: > > > 05.04.10 > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. given events are; > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when the opportunity comes to your door). > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > Female > > 24-Oct-1975 > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. > > > > With best Wishes > > > > Hussein > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Dear Nikhlesh ji Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. But,one thing. What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister and this girl. Some other characteristics of this girl: - Some aggressive blunt - Sweet voice - Fair color - Some skin problems With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows skin problems. it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this chart. Best Wishes Hussein , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing something. > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being intelligent). > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my leisure time. > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > Regards > > Anjna > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote: > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. given events are; > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > Female > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 06.04.10 Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 PM for study, 27N11,78E01 Dear Hussein ji, With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that is what I got. Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju delay. Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), which is LoD and strong for 7th house. Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth time. Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have given marriage to her in its AD. But the marriage did not take place. That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be accurate. What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no connectivity in D-9 chart. My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu and Moon and then deducing the time. We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the correct birth time. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > Dear Nikhlesh ji Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. But,one thing. What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister and this girl. Some other characteristics of this girl: - Some aggressive blunt - Sweet voice - Fair color - Some skin problems With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows skin problems. it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this chart. Best Wishes Hussein , "nikhlesh mathur" wrote: > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing something. > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being intelligent). > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my leisure time. > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > Regards > > Anjna > > > > , "nikhlesh mathur" wrote: > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. given events are; > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > Female > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Dear Nikhlesh ji With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times to nullify bad effects. Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational aspects of her life. I don't know why group is so silent?!! Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in discussions. Best Wishes Hussein , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > 06.04.10 > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > Dear Hussein ji, > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that is what I got. > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju delay. > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth time. > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have given marriage to her in its AD. > > But the marriage did not take place. > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be accurate. > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no connectivity in D-9 chart. > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu and Moon and then deducing the time. > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the correct birth time. > > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > But,one thing. > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister and this girl. > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > - Some aggressive blunt > > - Sweet voice > > - Fair color > > - Some skin problems > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows skin problems. > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this chart. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing something. > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being intelligent). > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my leisure time. > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Dear Hussein ji,Nikhlesh ji and Group, I think gemini lagna can do justice to given past events. Her graduation in 1995 and its moon antra. Her post graduation in Mars antra in 1997. Again Phd is in Sa antra where Sa and Moon are SD. Moon is LoE for 9th house. She got her hand fractured in 1992 that time Ve antra was running. Ve is LoE for 7th house.So such event could be expected (in 8th house Ve is LoD). Mars is 6th lord and situated in lagna. Possibilties are that she might had engaged more than one time and circumstances might be not helpful,so things could not mature upto marriage. Sa is placed in karaksthan so functional Root karaka status slightly effected. Su-Ve distance,29 points in first house,delay by Sa etc are to me measured for this delay in marriage. We should always validate the events first either these go inline as per chart. Regards Anup --- On Sun, 4/4/10, Hussein <ahahosien wrote: Hussein <ahahosien A good case for study Date: Sunday, 4 April, 2010, 1:35 PM Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and membersAn astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date.Female24-Oct-197511.20 PM(given birth time)Mathura (UP),27N11,78E011)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?)2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992), then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister.3)Her health is not good.4)She is very Intelligent.5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage.6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured.7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997.These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl.With best WishesHussein Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Dear Anup ji Thank you for your good guides. In previous email,I also told 10.40 pm(Gemini Lagna) may be good for this chart. With this time Sa will be in 5th house in D9. Best Wishes Hussein , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji,Nikhlesh ji and Group, >  >  >  > I think gemini lagna can do justice to given past events. >  > Her graduation in 1995 and its moon antra. > Her post graduation in Mars antra in 1997. > Again Phd is in Sa antra where Sa and Moon are SD. > Moon is LoE for 9th house. >  >  > She got her hand fractured in 1992 that time Ve antra was running. > Ve is LoE for 7th house.So such event could be expected (in 8th house Ve > is LoD). >  > Mars is 6th lord and situated in lagna. > Possibilties are that she might had engaged more than one time > and circumstances might be not helpful,so things could not mature upto marriage. >  >  > Sa is placed in karaksthan so functional Root karaka status slightly effected. > Su-Ve distance,29 points in first house,delay by Sa etc are to me measured > for this delay in marriage. >  > We should always validate the events first either these go inline as > per chart. >  >  >  > Regards > Anup >  >  >  > > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, Hussein <ahahosien wrote: > > > Hussein <ahahosien > A good case for study > > Sunday, 4 April, 2010, 1:35 PM > > >  > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > Female > 24-Oct-1975 > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992), then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. > > 3)Her health is not good. > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. > > With best Wishes > > Hussein > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 08.04.10 Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, 27N11,78E01 Dear Hussein and Group, The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this time; i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. ii) Both FK NK become strong. iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more than this. Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects can delay marriage. The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of Ra. Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in the Nks of Ju. So both karak root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to the problem of marriage. Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the known factors is sweet voice of this lady). Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as provided initially. I have a question here for all. Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the evaluation becomes easy thereafter. But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. A point to ponder ! Regards, Nikhlesh On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > Dear Nikhlesh ji With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times to nullify bad effects. Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational aspects of her life. I don't know why group is so silent?!! Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in discussions. Best Wishes Hussein , "nikhlesh mathur" wrote: > > > 06.04.10 > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > Dear Hussein ji, > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that is what I got. > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju delay. > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth time. > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have given marriage to her in its AD. > > But the marriage did not take place. > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be accurate. > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no connectivity in D-9 chart. > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu and Moon and then deducing the time. > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the correct birth time. > > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > But,one thing. > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister and this girl. > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > - Some aggressive blunt > > - Sweet voice > > - Fair color > > - Some skin problems > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows skin problems. > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this chart. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > > > , "nikhlesh mathur" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing something. > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being intelligent). > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my leisure time. > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > , "nikhlesh mathur" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 08.04.10 Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, 27N11,78E01 Dear Hussein ji and Group, The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this time; i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. ii) Both FK NK become strong. iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more than this. Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects can delay marriage. The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of Ra. Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in the Nks of Ju. So both karak root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to the problem of marriage. Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the known factors is sweet voice of this lady). Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as provided initially. I have a question here for all. Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the evaluation becomes easy thereafter. But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. A point to ponder ! Regards, Nikhlesh On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > Dear Nikhlesh ji With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times to nullify bad effects. Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational aspects of her life. I don't know why group is so silent?!! Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in discussions. Best Wishes Hussein , "nikhlesh mathur" wrote: > > > 06.04.10 > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > Dear Hussein ji, > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that is what I got. > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju delay. > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth time. > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have given marriage to her in its AD. > > But the marriage did not take place. > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be accurate. > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no connectivity in D-9 chart. > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu and Moon and then deducing the time. > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the correct birth time. > > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > But,one thing. > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister and this girl. > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > - Some aggressive blunt > > - Sweet voice > > - Fair color > > - Some skin problems > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows skin problems. > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this chart. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > > > , "nikhlesh mathur" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing something. > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being intelligent). > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my leisure time. > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > , "nikhlesh mathur" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dear Nikhlesh ji Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju is in Navamsa of Sa. Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to nullify bad effects in the chart. thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation position,but it is in rasi sandhi. Also Mo is with Sa in D9. Afflications in this manner: 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. With best wishes Hussein - , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > 08.04.10 > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, 27N11,78E01 > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this time; > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more than this. > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects can delay marriage. > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of Ra. > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in the Nks of Ju. > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to the problem of marriage. > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as provided initially. > > I have a question here for all. > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. > > A point to ponder ! > > Regards, > Nikhlesh > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times to nullify bad effects. > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational aspects of her life. > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in discussions. > > > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote: > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that is what I got. > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju delay. > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth time. > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be accurate. > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows skin problems. > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this chart. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being intelligent). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dear Hussein ji, If Guru is at say 29 deg in Sag, would it be Rasi Sandi? Would you consider such a Guru weak? What is the basis of Rasi Sandi and what is the logic? Please give it some thought. As you know, everything we are saying here in KAS is based on concrete facts, so please give your understanding on what do you mean by Rasi Sandhi and what is the meaning and what is the implication of it? Your and everyone involved with discussion is excellent with the chart, I am just referring to points that are not clear to me and hence the above questions. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Hussein Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM Subject: Re: A good case for study Dear Nikhlesh ji Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju is in Navamsa of Sa. Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to nullify bad effects in the chart. thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation position,but it is in rasi sandhi. Also Mo is with Sa in D9. Afflications in this manner: 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. With best wishes Hussein ------------------------- , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > 08.04.10 > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, 27N11,78E01 > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this time; > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more than this. > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects can delay marriage. > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of Ra. > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in the Nks of Ju. > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to the problem of marriage. > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as provided initially. > > I have a question here for all. > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. > > A point to ponder ! > > Regards, > Nikhlesh > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times to nullify bad effects. > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational aspects of her life. > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in discussions. > > > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote: > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that is what I got. > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju delay. > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth time. > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be accurate. > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows skin problems. > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this chart. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being intelligent). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dear All, Particular reference of Mo with Sa is given in lesson on delayed marriage. Kindly read up on that. Secondly this lady is very intelligent and that everyone can see as per lesson i.e. lagna, su and mo in nav, Dreshkon and Trishansa. The facts are tallying. She is very educated and with Sa and Mo, in such cases, (I am taking Sa and Mo in 5th house in Nav), so that will delay marriage. She might be focused on education and pursuits of study. I have just checked the chart briefly, due to lack of time, however these are my thoughts. That said, I might be wrong as I haven’t spent enough time on the chart. Just thought of sharing my observation. Other observations that you all have shared is all perfect. Keep it up. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Hussein Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM To: Re: A good case for study Dear Nikhlesh ji Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju is in Navamsa of Sa. Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to nullify bad effects in the chart. thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation position,but it is in rasi sandhi. Also Mo is with Sa in D9. Afflications in this manner: 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. With best wishes Hussein ------------------------- , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > 08.04.10 > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, 27N11,78E01 > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this time; > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more than this. > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects can delay marriage. > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of Ra. > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in the Nks of Ju. > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to the problem of marriage. > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as provided initially. > > I have a question here for all. > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. > > A point to ponder ! > > Regards, > Nikhlesh > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times to nullify bad effects. > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational aspects of her life. > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in discussions. > > > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote: > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that is what I got. > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju delay. > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth time. > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be accurate. > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows skin problems. > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this chart. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being intelligent). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " nikhlesh mathur " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dear Ash ji I am Happy that you are here for guiding us with your good knowledge in KAS. Generally in Astrology when a planet is in the start or end degrees of a sign,say on 0-1,or 29-30 we say it is in Rasi sandhi.Such planet is considered weak unless when it is Vargottama,means if the planet is Vargottama and it is in Rasi Sandhi,we don't consider it as weak.I thought it's a general principle in Astrology and can use it here. With best wishes Hussein , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji, > > If Guru is at say 29 deg in Sag, would it be Rasi Sandi? > > Would you consider such a Guru weak? > > What is the basis of Rasi Sandi and what is the logic? Please give it some > thought. > > As you know, everything we are saying here in KAS is based on concrete > facts, so please give your understanding on what do you mean by Rasi Sandhi > and what is the meaning and what is the implication of it? > > Your and everyone involved with discussion is excellent with the chart, I am > just referring to points that are not clear to me and hence the above > questions. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of Hussein > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM > > Re: A good case for study > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju > is in Navamsa of Sa. > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to > nullify bad effects in the chart. > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation > position,but it is in rasi sandhi. > Also Mo is with Sa in D9. > Afflications in this manner: > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. > > With best wishes > > Hussein > > ------------------------- > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > <nikhleshmathur@> wrote: > > > > > > 08.04.10 > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, > 27N11,78E01 > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this > time; > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more > than this. > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects > can delay marriage. > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of > Ra. > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in > the Nks of Ju. > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to > the problem of marriage. > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the > known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as > provided initially. > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the > evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. > > > > A point to ponder ! > > > > Regards, > > Nikhlesh > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times > to nullify bad effects. > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational > aspects of her life. > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in > discussions. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 > PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that > is what I got. > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju > delay. > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth > time. > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have > given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no > connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu > and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister > and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows > skin problems. > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this > chart. > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 > AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being > intelligent). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my > leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. > given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when > the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder > sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and > they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in > education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that > Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dear Ash ji ,Anup ji and members After the good guides of Ash ji,It will be good if I add more things to my analysis.Here we need to check the delay's in women's chart too. 1-Mo is in 12th house,potentially it will add the delay, 2-The aspect of Ma and Ra on 7H/7L will increase the delay too,here,in her chart, Ma has sight on 7H(Ma is malefic as it is 6L),and Ra has its 5th sight on Ju as 7L. 3-Normal delay of Sa and Ju 4-Aspect of Ju on 2nd house I think These reasons plus other reasons I've written in previous message,she will marry at the age of 36/37 means Ju-Mo.I think Ma antra can't give marriage,though Ma is highest point planet in WS,but as it has sight on 7H,it can't give marriage(I want Ash ji and Anup ji to guide me here) .It is possible if she marry on Sa-Sa as another possible date.(Though Sa is the lowest planet in WS but as it is SD for LOD,it may give marriage. With best wishes Hussein -- , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear All, > > Particular reference of Mo with Sa is given in lesson on delayed marriage. > Kindly read up on that. Secondly this lady is very intelligent and that > everyone can see as per lesson i.e. lagna, su and mo in nav, Dreshkon and > Trishansa. > > The facts are tallying. She is very educated and with Sa and Mo, in such > cases, (I am taking Sa and Mo in 5th house in Nav), so that will delay > marriage. She might be focused on education and pursuits of study. > > I have just checked the chart briefly, due to lack of time, however these > are my thoughts. That said, I might be wrong as I haven't spent enough time > on the chart. > > Just thought of sharing my observation. Other observations that you all > have shared is all perfect. > > Keep it up. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of Hussein > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM > > Re: A good case for study > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju > is in Navamsa of Sa. > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to > nullify bad effects in the chart. > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation > position,but it is in rasi sandhi. > Also Mo is with Sa in D9. > Afflications in this manner: > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. > > With best wishes > > Hussein > > ------------------------- > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > <nikhleshmathur@> wrote: > > > > > > 08.04.10 > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, > 27N11,78E01 > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this > time; > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more > than this. > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects > can delay marriage. > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of > Ra. > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in > the Nks of Ju. > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to > the problem of marriage. > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the > known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as > provided initially. > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the > evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. > > > > A point to ponder ! > > > > Regards, > > Nikhlesh > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times > to nullify bad effects. > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational > aspects of her life. > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in > discussions. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 > PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that > is what I got. > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju > delay. > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth > time. > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have > given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no > connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu > and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister > and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows > skin problems. > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this > chart. > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 > AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being > intelligent). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my > leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. > given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when > the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder > sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and > they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in > education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that > Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dear Hussein ji, Why is it considered weak? What is the theory behind it is what I am looking for? In GENERAL Rasi Sandhi is considered weak but why? Please put in some thought. Otherwise we can say that in General if there is marriage yog then one can marry from 21 to 40, a person will work from 18 in some cases to 65 (general retirement age in India), in general mostly in 7th or 8th MD a person might die etc etc etc..... Lots of General rules which are based on common sense will mostly be in line. However, here we are not talking in General, we are talking specifics. Think over it, and try to find the root of these GENERAL thinking. Cheers !!! Ash , " Hussein " <ahahosien wrote: > > Dear Ash ji > > I am Happy that you are here for guiding us with your good knowledge in KAS. > Generally in Astrology when a planet is in the start or end degrees of a sign,say on 0-1,or 29-30 we say it is in Rasi sandhi.Such planet is considered weak unless when it is Vargottama,means if the planet is Vargottama and it is in Rasi Sandhi,we don't consider it as weak.I thought it's a general principle in Astrology and can use it here. > > With best wishes > > Hussein > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > If Guru is at say 29 deg in Sag, would it be Rasi Sandi? > > > > Would you consider such a Guru weak? > > > > What is the basis of Rasi Sandi and what is the logic? Please give it some > > thought. > > > > As you know, everything we are saying here in KAS is based on concrete > > facts, so please give your understanding on what do you mean by Rasi Sandhi > > and what is the meaning and what is the implication of it? > > > > Your and everyone involved with discussion is excellent with the chart, I am > > just referring to points that are not clear to me and hence the above > > questions. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein > > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM > > > > Re: A good case for study > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju > > is in Navamsa of Sa. > > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to > > nullify bad effects in the chart. > > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation > > position,but it is in rasi sandhi. > > Also Mo is with Sa in D9. > > Afflications in this manner: > > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H > > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 > > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD > > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees > > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there > > > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's > > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. > > > > With best wishes > > > > Hussein > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > <nikhleshmathur@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > 08.04.10 > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, > > 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this > > time; > > > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD > > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. > > > > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more > > than this. > > > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points > > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects > > can delay marriage. > > > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of > > Ra. > > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in > > the Nks of Ju. > > > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is > > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to > > the problem of marriage. > > > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house > > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of > > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the > > known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by > > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) > > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as > > provided initially. > > > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. > > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear > > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the > > evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even > > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. > > > > > > A point to ponder ! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nikhlesh > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when > > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times > > to nullify bad effects. > > > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational > > aspects of her life. > > > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and > > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 > > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 > > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in > > discussions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 > > PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 > > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that > > is what I got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. > > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), > > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have > > given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. > > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no > > connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu > > and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or > > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the > > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you > > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in > > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be > > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister > > and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows > > skin problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 > > AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was > > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query > > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was > > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I > > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many > > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found > > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being > > intelligent). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members > > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all > > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am > > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my > > leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the > > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to > > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm > > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. > > given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both > > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also > > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some > > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when > > the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime > > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage > > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it > > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some > > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need > > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead > > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder > > sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and > > they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd > > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in > > education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that > > Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dear Ash,To the question that you have expressed, this is my view.When a planet is at assume 29 Degrees 59 Min in a House and is moving to the next house,the planet is still in the house and is functional in delivering results. But as it is almost in the next house (but not technically), the kinematic forces keep the planet's momentum towards the next one.That to an extent can reduce the strength of the planet and its ability to deliver the results. And I think Rasi Sandhi should be consdered differently for every planet; basic on their operational kinematic forces.Saturn who can stay in a house for 2.5 years, may not differ in his strength until he reaches 29 deg 59 Mins; where as Sun, who move every month may can considered for the case at 29 deg 45 min.Thanks and Regards,VamseeOn Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:25 PM, ashsam73 <kas wrote: Dear Hussein ji, Why is it considered weak? What is the theory behind it is what I am looking for? In GENERAL Rasi Sandhi is considered weak but why? Please put in some thought. Otherwise we can say that in General if there is marriage yog then one can marry from 21 to 40, a person will work from 18 in some cases to 65 (general retirement age in India), in general mostly in 7th or 8th MD a person might die etc etc etc..... Lots of General rules which are based on common sense will mostly be in line. However, here we are not talking in General, we are talking specifics. Think over it, and try to find the root of these GENERAL thinking. Cheers !!! Ash , " Hussein " <ahahosien wrote: > > Dear Ash ji > > I am Happy that you are here for guiding us with your good knowledge in KAS. > Generally in Astrology when a planet is in the start or end degrees of a sign,say on 0-1,or 29-30 we say it is in Rasi sandhi.Such planet is considered weak unless when it is Vargottama,means if the planet is Vargottama and it is in Rasi Sandhi,we don't consider it as weak.I thought it's a general principle in Astrology and can use it here. > > With best wishes > > Hussein > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > If Guru is at say 29 deg in Sag, would it be Rasi Sandi? > > > > Would you consider such a Guru weak? > > > > What is the basis of Rasi Sandi and what is the logic? Please give it some > > thought. > > > > As you know, everything we are saying here in KAS is based on concrete > > facts, so please give your understanding on what do you mean by Rasi Sandhi > > and what is the meaning and what is the implication of it? > > > > Your and everyone involved with discussion is excellent with the chart, I am > > just referring to points that are not clear to me and hence the above > > questions. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein > > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM > > > > Re: A good case for study > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju > > is in Navamsa of Sa. > > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to > > nullify bad effects in the chart. > > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation > > position,but it is in rasi sandhi. > > Also Mo is with Sa in D9. > > Afflications in this manner: > > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H > > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 > > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD > > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees > > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there > > > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's > > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. > > > > With best wishes > > > > Hussein > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > <nikhleshmathur@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > 08.04.10 > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, > > 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this > > time; > > > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD > > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. > > > > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more > > than this. > > > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points > > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects > > can delay marriage. > > > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of > > Ra. > > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in > > the Nks of Ju. > > > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is > > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to > > the problem of marriage. > > > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house > > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of > > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the > > known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by > > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) > > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as > > provided initially. > > > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. > > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear > > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the > > evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even > > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. > > > > > > A point to ponder ! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nikhlesh > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when > > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times > > to nullify bad effects. > > > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational > > aspects of her life. > > > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and > > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 > > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 > > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in > > discussions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 > > PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 > > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that > > is what I got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. > > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), > > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have > > given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. > > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no > > connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu > > and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or > > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the > > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you > > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in > > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be > > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister > > and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows > > skin problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 > > AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was > > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query > > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was > > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I > > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many > > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found > > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being > > intelligent). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members > > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all > > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am > > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my > > leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the > > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to > > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm > > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. > > given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both > > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also > > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some > > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when > > the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime > > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage > > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it > > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some > > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need > > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead > > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder > > sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and > > they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd > > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in > > education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that > > Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dear Hussein ji, Planet having more than 20 points can give event irrespect of it's sight on houses A B or C.Here Mars becomes powerful by virtue of 4:10 relation Now as you said about rasi sandhi in your previous mail,don't you think we consider power of a planet by it's placement in a particular sign. Here this power is fixed and we can not condense or dilute this by considering it's degree in a sign.Ju at 1 deg have the same power in worksheet for itself as it will have at 29 deg. Again in SAV it will get the fixed support from other planets in a sign,no matter at whcih degree it situated. So how Ju can be considered weak in it's primary or later stage? As we are learning KAS and things are becoming crystal clear slowly so we can check these perverted things with the help this powerful system. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 8/4/10, Hussein <ahahosien wrote: Hussein <ahahosien Re: A good case for study Date: Thursday, 8 April, 2010, 5:16 PM Dear Ash ji ,Anup ji and membersAfter the good guides of Ash ji,It will be good if I add more things to my analysis.Here we need to check the delay's in women's chart too.1-Mo is in 12th house,potentially it will add the delay,2-The aspect of Ma and Ra on 7H/7L will increase the delay too,here,in her chart, Ma has sight on 7H(Ma is malefic as it is 6L),and Ra has its 5th sight on Ju as 7L.3-Normal delay of Sa and Ju4-Aspect of Ju on 2nd houseI think These reasons plus other reasons I've written in previous message,she will marry at the age of 36/37 means Ju-Mo.I think Ma antra can't give marriage,though Ma is highest point planet in WS,but as it has sight on 7H,it can't give marriage(I want Ash ji and Anup ji to guide me here) .It is possible if she marry on Sa-Sa as another possible date.(Though Sa is the lowest planet in WS but as it is SD for LOD,it may give marriage.With best wishesHussein------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear All,> > Particular reference of Mo with Sa is given in lesson on delayed marriage.> Kindly read up on that. Secondly this lady is very intelligent and that> everyone can see as per lesson i.e. lagna, su and mo in nav, Dreshkon and> Trishansa.> > The facts are tallying. She is very educated and with Sa and Mo, in such> cases, (I am taking Sa and Mo in 5th house in Nav), so that will delay> marriage. She might be focused on education and pursuits of study.> > I have just checked the chart briefly, due to lack of time, however these> are my thoughts. That said, I might be wrong as I haven't spent enough time> on the chart.> > Just thought of sharing my observation. Other observations that you all> have shared is all perfect.> > Keep it up.> > Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of Hussein> Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: A good case for study> > > Dear Nikhlesh ji> > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju> is in Navamsa of Sa.> Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to> nullify bad effects in the chart.> thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation> position,but it is in rasi sandhi.> Also Mo is with Sa in D9.> Afflications in this manner:> 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H> 2)Mo is with Sa in D9> 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD> 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees> 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there> > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's> antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD.> > With best wishes> > Hussein> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> <nikhleshmathur@ > wrote:> >> > > > 08.04.10> > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same,> 27N11,78E01> > > > Dear Hussein and Group,> > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this> time;> > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay.> > ii) Both FK & NK become strong.> > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD> (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time.> > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date.> > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more> than this.> > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points> (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects> can delay marriage.> > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of> Ra.> > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in> the Nks of Ju.> > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is> always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to> the problem of marriage.> > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house> (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of> aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles.> > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the> known factors is sweet voice of this lady).> > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by> Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate)> might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house.> > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as> provided initially.> > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay.> There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear> delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the> evaluation becomes easy thereafter.> > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even> more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not.> > > > A point to ponder !> > > > Regards,> > Nikhlesh> > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji> > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when> it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times> to nullify bad effects.> > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational> aspects of her life.> > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!!> > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and> KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15> minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3> days) free to come to the group and give our ideas?> > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in> discussions.> > > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > Hussein> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10> > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43> PM for study, 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji,> > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9> chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that> is what I got.> > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju> delay.> > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over.> But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage.> > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04),> which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth> time.> > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have> given marriage to her in its AD.> > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place.> > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be> accurate.> > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon.> With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no> connectivity in D-9 chart.> > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu> and Moon and then deducing the time.> > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or> rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the> correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you> told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea.> > > > > > > > > > But,one thing.> > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in> navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study.> > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be> in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister> and this girl.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl:> > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt> > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice> > > > > > > > > > - Fair color> > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems> > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows> skin problems.> > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this> chart.> > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > > > > > Hussein> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20> AM for study, 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was> my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query> itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was> chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I> could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing> something.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many> times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found> something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being> intelligent) .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members> participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all> of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am> myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my> leisure time.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the> right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to> 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm> (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t.> given events are;> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both> karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also> affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some> eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when> the opportunity comes to your door).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime> period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage> by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it> being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some> events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need> rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead> (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992), then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder> sister.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and> they also are not interested in her marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd> accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in> education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that> Girl.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> >>Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. 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Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dear Vamsee ji, That is why we always are taking the effect of the transit of planets when the planets start a few degrees before they enter the sign and the full effects of the planet in transit to apply after its moved a few degrees into the sign in KAS, just like Dawn before sun rise and dusk after sun set (similar logic for all planets). However, that said that is a different subject. Here if Mo is in say 0.5 deg in Cancer or Ju is in 29 Deg in Sag or or Sun is in 1 deg in Aries, then is that considered weak due to infancy or rasi sandhi ? Think over it and also please discuss it with Rayadu ji if you get a chance and I am sure he will smile and ask u to think over it as well. I will not go into further detail on this, we will stick to timing of event. In VA, many things are given, but without understanding the theory in detail, applying in all cases is not correct. Yes, if one understands the theory behind it on what is exactly meant by calling a planet weak if its in rasi sandhi then there is concrete base, however, just because its given in the book, one size fits all does not work consistently, though can be used as good justification after the event. In any case, I think you have got the hint and direction, kindly think over it. But you point about kinematics is excellent and we are covering it. Same way with one MD or AD ending and other starting, the full effects of the antra starting we take after 18 days or so. Guru ji has also written on it and u can find the thread called " turning point " Cheers !!! Ash , Joe maya <joequest wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > To the question that you have expressed, this is my view. > > When a planet is at assume 29 Degrees 59 Min in a House and is moving to the > next house, > the planet is still in the house and is functional in delivering results. > But as it is almost in the next house (but not technically), > the kinematic forces keep the planet's momentum towards the next one. > That to an extent can reduce the strength of the planet and its ability to > deliver the results. > > And I think Rasi Sandhi should be consdered differently for every planet; > basic on their operational kinematic forces. > Saturn who can stay in a house for 2.5 years, may not differ in his strength > until he reaches 29 deg 59 Mins; > where as Sun, who move every month may can considered for the case at 29 deg > 45 min. > > Thanks and Regards, > Vamsee > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:25 PM, ashsam73 <kas wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > Why is it considered weak? What is the theory behind it is what I am > > looking for? > > > > In GENERAL Rasi Sandhi is considered weak but why? > > > > Please put in some thought. Otherwise we can say that in General if there > > is marriage yog then one can marry from 21 to 40, a person will work from 18 > > in some cases to 65 (general retirement age in India), in general mostly in > > 7th or 8th MD a person might die etc etc etc..... > > > > Lots of General rules which are based on common sense will mostly be in > > line. > > > > However, here we are not talking in General, we are talking specifics. > > > > Think over it, and try to find the root of these GENERAL thinking. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > > > I am Happy that you are here for guiding us with your good knowledge in > > KAS. > > > Generally in Astrology when a planet is in the start or end degrees of a > > sign,say on 0-1,or 29-30 we say it is in Rasi sandhi.Such planet is > > considered weak unless when it is Vargottama,means if the planet is > > Vargottama and it is in Rasi Sandhi,we don't consider it as weak.I thought > > it's a general principle in Astrology and can use it here. > > > > > > With best wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > > > If Guru is at say 29 deg in Sag, would it be Rasi Sandi? > > > > > > > > Would you consider such a Guru weak? > > > > > > > > What is the basis of Rasi Sandi and what is the logic? Please give it > > some > > > > thought. > > > > > > > > As you know, everything we are saying here in KAS is based on concrete > > > > facts, so please give your understanding on what do you mean by Rasi > > Sandhi > > > > and what is the meaning and what is the implication of it? > > > > > > > > Your and everyone involved with discussion is excellent with the chart, > > I am > > > > just referring to points that are not clear to me and hence the above > > > > questions. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > <%40.\ com> > > > > [ <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>] > > On Behalf Of Hussein > > > > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM > > > > To: <%40.\ com> > > > > Re: A good case for study > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the > > delay,because Ju > > > > is in Navamsa of Sa. > > > > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times > > to > > > > nullify bad effects in the chart. > > > > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation > > > > position,but it is in rasi sandhi. > > > > Also Mo is with Sa in D9. > > > > Afflications in this manner: > > > > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H > > > > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 > > > > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD > > > > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees > > > > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there > > > > > > > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's > > > > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. > > > > > > > > With best wishes > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > > > <%40<%2540\ >> > > , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > <nikhleshmathur@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, > > > > 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > > > > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with > > this > > > > time; > > > > > > > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > > > > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > > > > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in > > its AD > > > > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > > > > > > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this > > date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > > > > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > > > > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something > > more > > > > than this. > > > > > > > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high > > points > > > > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these > > effects > > > > can delay marriage. > > > > > > > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full > > effect of > > > > Ra. > > > > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is > > also in > > > > the Nks of Ju. > > > > > > > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is > > > > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for > > marriage). > > > > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more > > bitterness to > > > > the problem of marriage. > > > > > > > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th > > house > > > > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of > > > > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > > > > > > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of > > the > > > > known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > > > > > > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by > > > > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: > > subordinate) > > > > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > > > > > > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as > > > > provided initially. > > > > > > > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > > > > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the > > delay. > > > > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > > > > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits > > clear > > > > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the > > > > evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > > > > > > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be > > even > > > > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or > > not. > > > > > > > > > > A point to ponder ! > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Nikhlesh > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just > > when > > > > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several > > times > > > > to nullify bad effects. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about > > educational > > > > aspects of her life. > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > > > > > > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology > > and > > > > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least > > 10-15 > > > > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after > > 2-3 > > > > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in > > > > discussions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > > > <%40<%2540\ >> > > , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to > > 10.43 > > > > PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 > > > > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but > > that > > > > is what I got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay > > and Ju > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets > > over. > > > > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me > > (2003-04), > > > > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs > > birth > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should > > have > > > > given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her > > Moon. > > > > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no > > > > connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between > > Rahu > > > > and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited > > or > > > > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive > > the > > > > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you > > > > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in > > > > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord > > will be > > > > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and > > sister > > > > and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may > > shows > > > > skin problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > > > <%40<%2540\ >> > > , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to > > 11.20 > > > > AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it > > was > > > > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query > > > > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am > > was > > > > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself > > but I > > > > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was > > missing > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, > > many > > > > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found > > > > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl > > being > > > > intelligent). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members > > > > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain > > all > > > > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am > > > > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my > > > > leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on > > the > > > > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our > > Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > > > <%40<%2540\ >> > > , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed > > to > > > > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time > > 11.20 pm > > > > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. > > > > given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both > > > > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also > > > > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives > > some > > > > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even > > when > > > > the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the > > prime > > > > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for > > marriage > > > > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its > > AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong > > and it > > > > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked > > some > > > > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need > > > > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother > > dead > > > > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder > > > > sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters > > and > > > > they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd > > > > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand > > fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in > > > > education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about > > that > > > > Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Dear Ash ji I asked about the basics of Rsi Sandhi from an astrologer,the result of discussion was that: it is a space close to the border of the rasi. A planet is strongest at the middle and becomes weaker towards the border.one reason could be that rasis have different tatvas like air, earth etc. The planet at the border is caught between the two tatvas. even otherwise, a planet is said to be in young age at the beginning of a rasi, in youth in the middle of the rasi and in old age in the end of the rasi This also gives a hint why it is weakest at the border Anyway,I know it has not taught us by Guru ji,and as I told I thought I can use it here. It logical takes birth and dies in each rasi . Guru ji has not tought us this,it seems I shouldn't use it here and mix it with the principles of KAS. Anyway excuse me if I did it and mixed it . Waiting your more guides. Best Wishes Hussein --- , " ashsam73 " <kas wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji, > > Why is it considered weak? What is the theory behind it is what I am looking for? > > In GENERAL Rasi Sandhi is considered weak but why? > > Please put in some thought. Otherwise we can say that in General if there is marriage yog then one can marry from 21 to 40, a person will work from 18 in some cases to 65 (general retirement age in India), in general mostly in 7th or 8th MD a person might die etc etc etc..... > > Lots of General rules which are based on common sense will mostly be in line. > > However, here we are not talking in General, we are talking specifics. > > Think over it, and try to find the root of these GENERAL thinking. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > I am Happy that you are here for guiding us with your good knowledge in KAS. > > Generally in Astrology when a planet is in the start or end degrees of a sign,say on 0-1,or 29-30 we say it is in Rasi sandhi.Such planet is considered weak unless when it is Vargottama,means if the planet is Vargottama and it is in Rasi Sandhi,we don't consider it as weak.I thought it's a general principle in Astrology and can use it here. > > > > With best wishes > > > > Hussein > > > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > If Guru is at say 29 deg in Sag, would it be Rasi Sandi? > > > > > > Would you consider such a Guru weak? > > > > > > What is the basis of Rasi Sandi and what is the logic? Please give it some > > > thought. > > > > > > As you know, everything we are saying here in KAS is based on concrete > > > facts, so please give your understanding on what do you mean by Rasi Sandhi > > > and what is the meaning and what is the implication of it? > > > > > > Your and everyone involved with discussion is excellent with the chart, I am > > > just referring to points that are not clear to me and hence the above > > > questions. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein > > > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM > > > > > > Re: A good case for study > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju > > > is in Navamsa of Sa. > > > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to > > > nullify bad effects in the chart. > > > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation > > > position,but it is in rasi sandhi. > > > Also Mo is with Sa in D9. > > > Afflications in this manner: > > > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H > > > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 > > > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD > > > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees > > > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there > > > > > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's > > > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. > > > > > > With best wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > <nikhleshmathur@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > 08.04.10 > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, > > > 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this > > > time; > > > > > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > > > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > > > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD > > > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > > > > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more > > > than this. > > > > > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points > > > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects > > > can delay marriage. > > > > > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of > > > Ra. > > > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in > > > the Nks of Ju. > > > > > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is > > > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to > > > the problem of marriage. > > > > > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house > > > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of > > > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > > > > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the > > > known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > > > > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by > > > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) > > > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > > > > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as > > > provided initially. > > > > > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. > > > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear > > > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the > > > evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > > > > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even > > > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. > > > > > > > > A point to ponder ! > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Nikhlesh > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when > > > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times > > > to nullify bad effects. > > > > > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational > > > aspects of her life. > > > > > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > > > > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and > > > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 > > > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 > > > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > > > > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in > > > discussions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 > > > PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 > > > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that > > > is what I got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. > > > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), > > > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have > > > given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. > > > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no > > > connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu > > > and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or > > > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the > > > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you > > > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in > > > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be > > > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister > > > and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows > > > skin problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 > > > AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was > > > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query > > > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was > > > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I > > > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many > > > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found > > > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being > > > intelligent). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members > > > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all > > > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am > > > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my > > > leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the > > > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to > > > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm > > > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. > > > given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both > > > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also > > > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some > > > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when > > > the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime > > > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage > > > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it > > > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some > > > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need > > > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead > > > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder > > > sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and > > > they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd > > > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in > > > education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that > > > Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Dear Anup ji Yes,you are right.Excuse me for this mistake. I am sorry for that. Yes Ma has more than 20,so can give the results,then my 2nd possible date for her marriage is Ma (1 possibility was Mo as it has placed in HD) which is the highest power planet in WS,means in Ju-Ma, 2010-Jul-06 2011-Jun-11 Best Wishes Hussein , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji, >  >  > Planet having more than 20 points can give event irrespect of it's sight on > houses A B or C.Here Mars becomes powerful by virtue of 4:10 relation >  > Now as you said about rasi sandhi in your previous mail,don't you think > we consider power of a planet by it's placement in a particular sign. >  > Here this power is fixed and we can not condense or dilute this by considering > it's degree in a sign.Ju at 1 deg have the same power in  worksheet for > itself as it will have at 29 deg. >  > Again in SAV it will get the fixed support from other planets in a sign,no matter > at whcih degree it situated. >  > So how Ju can be considered weak in it's primary or later stage? >  > As we are learning KAS and things are becoming crystal clear slowly so we can > check these perverted things with the help this powerful system. >  >  > Regards > Anup >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > > > --- On Thu, 8/4/10, Hussein <ahahosien wrote: > > > Hussein <ahahosien > Re: A good case for study > > Thursday, 8 April, 2010, 5:16 PM > > >  > > > > Dear Ash ji ,Anup ji and members > > After the good guides of Ash ji,It will be good if I add more things to my analysis.Here we need to check the delay's in women's chart too. > 1-Mo is in 12th house,potentially it will add the delay, > 2-The aspect of Ma and Ra on 7H/7L will increase the delay too,here,in her chart, Ma has sight on 7H(Ma is malefic as it is 6L),and Ra has its 5th sight on Ju as 7L. > 3-Normal delay of Sa and Ju > 4-Aspect of Ju on 2nd house > > I think These reasons plus other reasons I've written in previous message,she will marry at the age of 36/37 means Ju-Mo.I think Ma antra can't give marriage,though Ma is highest point planet in WS,but as it has sight on 7H,it can't give marriage(I want Ash ji and Anup ji to guide me here) .It is possible if she marry on Sa-Sa as another possible date.(Though Sa is the lowest planet in WS but as it is SD for LOD,it may give marriage. > > With best wishes > > Hussein > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Particular reference of Mo with Sa is given in lesson on delayed marriage. > > Kindly read up on that. Secondly this lady is very intelligent and that > > everyone can see as per lesson i.e. lagna, su and mo in nav, Dreshkon and > > Trishansa. > > > > The facts are tallying. She is very educated and with Sa and Mo, in such > > cases, (I am taking Sa and Mo in 5th house in Nav), so that will delay > > marriage. She might be focused on education and pursuits of study. > > > > I have just checked the chart briefly, due to lack of time, however these > > are my thoughts. That said, I might be wrong as I haven't spent enough time > > on the chart. > > > > Just thought of sharing my observation. Other observations that you all > > have shared is all perfect. > > > > Keep it up. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of Hussein > > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: A good case for study > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju > > is in Navamsa of Sa. > > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to > > nullify bad effects in the chart. > > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation > > position,but it is in rasi sandhi. > > Also Mo is with Sa in D9. > > Afflications in this manner: > > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H > > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 > > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD > > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees > > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there > > > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's > > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. > > > > With best wishes > > > > Hussein > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > <nikhleshmathur@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > 08.04.10 > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, > > 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this > > time; > > > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD > > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. > > > > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more > > than this. > > > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points > > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects > > can delay marriage. > > > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of > > Ra. > > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in > > the Nks of Ju. > > > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is > > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to > > the problem of marriage. > > > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house > > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of > > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the > > known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by > > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) > > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as > > provided initially. > > > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. > > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear > > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the > > evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even > > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. > > > > > > A point to ponder ! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nikhlesh > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when > > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times > > to nullify bad effects. > > > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational > > aspects of her life. > > > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and > > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 > > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 > > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in > > discussions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 > > PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 > > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that > > is what I got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. > > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), > > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have > > given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. > > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no > > connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu > > and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or > > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the > > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you > > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in > > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be > > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister > > and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows > > skin problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 > > AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was > > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query > > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was > > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I > > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many > > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found > > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being > > intelligent) . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members > > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all > > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am > > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my > > leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the > > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to > > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm > > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. > > given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both > > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also > > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some > > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when > > the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime > > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage > > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it > > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some > > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need > > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead > > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992), then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder > > sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and > > they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd > > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in > > education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that > > Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Dear Hussein ji, So, if I have understood you correctly, you are saying that The planet is considered WEAK when its towards the end of the sign or in the initial part of the sign because there is influence of the prior / next sign effect on the planet and the planet is UNABLE to give deliver its full impact and hence considered WEAK. So that is same as what Vamsee ji has said. So, if u continue with the same line of thought, then u add in the layer of Vargottam and say that if the planet is Vargottam then it has " GAINED " some more power so it can show more of its OWN NATURE and OVERCOME THE HAZY EFFECT OF PRIOR / NEXT SIGN INFLUENCE ON THE PLANET or in other words, have more of SELF POWER. So, in that case, what about Saturn and when it is moving from Cap to Aqu? Both signs are owned by Saturn then what happens. If the above is in line with what you have explained, then that is being considered automatically in KAS. For any planet in Transit, we are taking the effects to start when it comes to the end of the sign and the effect of the planet to show full effect once it moves a bit into the sign. An analogy was there is DAWN before actual sun rise so effects start before the actual sun appears and same way, there is still light effect that remains AFTER sun set or in other words DUSK. Also we apply the same logic for start / end of MD, start and end of AD, start and end of sectors. So that is built in to the analysis and you have been doing that autoamtically and maybe unknowingly. Now the other portion that I talked about with Vamsee ji in my mail to refer to Rayadu ji, was different. Guru ji has not talked about all that so we shall let it be as that is not related with Timing of Event. Even Transit effect is not to do with timing of event. That is to study the environment. Yes, only AD is important and we do factor the above into our calculation. Even we take a bit of tolleration for PDF. So all this is being considered automatically in KAS SYSTEM. So by knowing the THEORY OF WHAT IS TERMED WEAK, you can easily see that we already do all these things that have specific names in VA, all automatically. Its a part and parcel of our study of each chart. We do not have to study it sperately. Cheers !!! Ash , " Hussein " <ahahosien wrote: > > Dear Ash ji > > I asked about the basics of Rsi Sandhi from an astrologer,the result of discussion was that: > it is a space close to the border of the rasi. A planet is strongest at the middle and becomes weaker towards the border.one reason could be that rasis have different tatvas like air, earth etc. The planet at the border is caught between the two tatvas. > even otherwise, a planet is said to be in young age at the beginning of a rasi, in youth in the middle of the rasi and in old age in the end of the rasi > This also gives a hint why it is weakest at the border > Anyway,I know it has not taught us by Guru ji,and as I told I thought I can use it here. > It logical takes birth and dies in each rasi . > Guru ji has not tought us this,it seems I shouldn't use it here and mix it with the principles of KAS. > Anyway excuse me if I did it and mixed it . > Waiting your more guides. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > --- > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > Why is it considered weak? What is the theory behind it is what I am looking for? > > > > In GENERAL Rasi Sandhi is considered weak but why? > > > > Please put in some thought. Otherwise we can say that in General if there is marriage yog then one can marry from 21 to 40, a person will work from 18 in some cases to 65 (general retirement age in India), in general mostly in 7th or 8th MD a person might die etc etc etc..... > > > > Lots of General rules which are based on common sense will mostly be in line. > > > > However, here we are not talking in General, we are talking specifics. > > > > Think over it, and try to find the root of these GENERAL thinking. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > > > I am Happy that you are here for guiding us with your good knowledge in KAS. > > > Generally in Astrology when a planet is in the start or end degrees of a sign,say on 0-1,or 29-30 we say it is in Rasi sandhi.Such planet is considered weak unless when it is Vargottama,means if the planet is Vargottama and it is in Rasi Sandhi,we don't consider it as weak.I thought it's a general principle in Astrology and can use it here. > > > > > > With best wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > > > If Guru is at say 29 deg in Sag, would it be Rasi Sandi? > > > > > > > > Would you consider such a Guru weak? > > > > > > > > What is the basis of Rasi Sandi and what is the logic? Please give it some > > > > thought. > > > > > > > > As you know, everything we are saying here in KAS is based on concrete > > > > facts, so please give your understanding on what do you mean by Rasi Sandhi > > > > and what is the meaning and what is the implication of it? > > > > > > > > Your and everyone involved with discussion is excellent with the chart, I am > > > > just referring to points that are not clear to me and hence the above > > > > questions. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein > > > > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM > > > > > > > > Re: A good case for study > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju > > > > is in Navamsa of Sa. > > > > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to > > > > nullify bad effects in the chart. > > > > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation > > > > position,but it is in rasi sandhi. > > > > Also Mo is with Sa in D9. > > > > Afflications in this manner: > > > > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H > > > > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 > > > > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD > > > > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees > > > > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there > > > > > > > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's > > > > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. > > > > > > > > With best wishes > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > <nikhleshmathur@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, > > > > 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > > > > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this > > > > time; > > > > > > > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > > > > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > > > > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD > > > > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > > > > > > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > > > > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > > > > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more > > > > than this. > > > > > > > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points > > > > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects > > > > can delay marriage. > > > > > > > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of > > > > Ra. > > > > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in > > > > the Nks of Ju. > > > > > > > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is > > > > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > > > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to > > > > the problem of marriage. > > > > > > > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house > > > > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of > > > > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > > > > > > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the > > > > known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > > > > > > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by > > > > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) > > > > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > > > > > > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as > > > > provided initially. > > > > > > > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > > > > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. > > > > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > > > > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear > > > > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the > > > > evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > > > > > > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even > > > > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. > > > > > > > > > > A point to ponder ! > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Nikhlesh > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when > > > > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times > > > > to nullify bad effects. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational > > > > aspects of her life. > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > > > > > > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and > > > > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 > > > > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 > > > > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in > > > > discussions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 > > > > PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 > > > > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that > > > > is what I got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. > > > > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), > > > > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have > > > > given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. > > > > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no > > > > connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu > > > > and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or > > > > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the > > > > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you > > > > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in > > > > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be > > > > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister > > > > and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows > > > > skin problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 > > > > AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was > > > > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query > > > > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was > > > > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I > > > > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many > > > > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found > > > > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being > > > > intelligent). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members > > > > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all > > > > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am > > > > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my > > > > leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the > > > > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to > > > > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm > > > > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. > > > > given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both > > > > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also > > > > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some > > > > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when > > > > the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime > > > > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage > > > > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it > > > > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some > > > > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need > > > > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead > > > > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992),then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder > > > > sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and > > > > they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd > > > > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in > > > > education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that > > > > Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Dear Hussein ji and group, My analysis: sorry for the delay! Oct 24/1975 17N11 78E01 Time: 10:20 pm Gem Asc DoNot Match. Lagna has 29 pts. 7th Hs has 23 pts. Lag and 7th: Mer / Ju 1:7 Mo and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 Su and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 Ve and 7th: Su / Sa 4:10nMa and 7th: Mer / Ju 1:7 Moderate delay. Overall WS points are good. _____________ Time: 11:20 pm Cancer Asc Rectified time 11:30 pm. If we rectify the time to 11:30 pm then the sectors match per her education. Lagna has 36 pts vs 7th Hs has 30 pts. Lag and 7th: Mo / Sa 3:11 Mo and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 Su and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 Ve and 7th: Su / Sa 3:11 Ma and 7th: Me / Ju 1:7 Ve to Sun distance is > 46 degrees. Fairly High hence Ve is out of control and if this Ve is in nakshatra of Ve than I think it will be spoilt more. 6th Lo is Ju and also in 6th Hs in navamsa and hence guru is spoilt. Both karaks are spoilt and hence the result willnot be fruitful. This Ve is aspected by Ma. If Ve is out of control and aspected by Ma it will give more sexual energy. She might have a companion or a live-in relationship without wedlock during Me antra as Me is LoE but is also aspected by 6th Lo and hence might not have given +ve result. Delay: Sa is LoB, aspects Hs B. Moderate delay but her Lagna having 36 pts and her mind was focused on education. Sectors: 3 sectors of Me, 2 Sa, 1 Ma, 1 Ju, 1 Mo and 1 Ve. This shows her brilliancy and her education with her adamant nature. Also she has a sector of Mars which adds her aggressiveness. Conclusion: She must have had some strong relationship in Me antra Apr 2002 – Jul 2004 and might have broken in Ve antra Jun 2005 to Feb 2008. As 12th Hs is weak for Ve in WS. Hussein ji, it would be nice if you could find out if she had broken relationships in the past. Ma antra from Apr 2010 to Mar 2011 should give result. Ma is in Hs E, has good pts for 7th Hs in WS and also is with FK Su and aspected by LoE Me in navamsa. Thank you, -Bella - Hussein Friday, April 09, 2010 6:54 AM Re: A good case for study Dear Anup jiYes,you are right.Excuse me for this mistake.I am sorry for that.Yes Ma has more than 20,so can give the results,then my 2nd possible date for her marriage is Ma (1 possibility was Mo as it has placed in HD) which is the highest power planet in WS,means in Ju-Ma, 2010-Jul-06 2011-Jun-11 Best WishesHussein , "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Hussein ji,>  >  > Planet having more than 20 points can give event irrespect of it's sight on> houses A B or C.Here Mars becomes powerful by virtue of 4:10 relation >  > Now as you said about rasi sandhi in your previous mail,don't you think> we consider power of a planet by it's placement in a particular sign.>  > Here this power is fixed and we can not condense or dilute this by considering> it's degree in a sign.Ju at 1 deg have the same power in  worksheet for> itself as it will have at 29 deg.>  > Again in SAV it will get the fixed support from other planets in a sign,no matter> at whcih degree it situated.>  > So how Ju can be considered weak in it's primary or later stage?>  > As we are learning KAS and things are becoming crystal clear slowly so we can> check these perverted things with the help this powerful system.>  >  > Regards> Anup>  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > > > --- On Thu, 8/4/10, Hussein <ahahosien wrote:> > > Hussein <ahahosien> Re: A good case for study> > Thursday, 8 April, 2010, 5:16 PM> > >  > > > > Dear Ash ji ,Anup ji and members> > After the good guides of Ash ji,It will be good if I add more things to my analysis.Here we need to check the delay's in women's chart too.> 1-Mo is in 12th house,potentially it will add the delay,> 2-The aspect of Ma and Ra on 7H/7L will increase the delay too,here,in her chart, Ma has sight on 7H(Ma is malefic as it is 6L),and Ra has its 5th sight on Ju as 7L.> 3-Normal delay of Sa and Ju> 4-Aspect of Ju on 2nd house> > I think These reasons plus other reasons I've written in previous message,she will marry at the age of 36/37 means Ju-Mo.I think Ma antra can't give marriage,though Ma is highest point planet in WS,but as it has sight on 7H,it can't give marriage(I want Ash ji and Anup ji to guide me here) .It is possible if she marry on Sa-Sa as another possible date.(Though Sa is the lowest planet in WS but as it is SD for LOD,it may give marriage.> > With best wishes> > Hussein> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner@" <kas@> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > Particular reference of Mo with Sa is given in lesson on delayed marriage.> > Kindly read up on that. Secondly this lady is very intelligent and that> > everyone can see as per lesson i.e. lagna, su and mo in nav, Dreshkon and> > Trishansa.> > > > The facts are tallying. She is very educated and with Sa and Mo, in such> > cases, (I am taking Sa and Mo in 5th house in Nav), so that will delay> > marriage. She might be focused on education and pursuits of study.> > > > I have just checked the chart briefly, due to lack of time, however these> > are my thoughts. That said, I might be wrong as I haven't spent enough time> > on the chart.> > > > Just thought of sharing my observation. Other observations that you all> > have shared is all perfect.> > > > Keep it up.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of Hussein> > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: A good case for study> > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji> > > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju> > is in Navamsa of Sa.> > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to> > nullify bad effects in the chart.> > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation> > position,but it is in rasi sandhi.> > Also Mo is with Sa in D9.> > Afflications in this manner:> > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H> > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9> > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD> > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees> > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there> > > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's> > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD.> > > > With best wishes> > > > Hussein> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> > <nikhleshmathur@ > wrote:> > >> > > > > > 08.04.10> > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same,> > 27N11,78E01> > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group,> > > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this> > time;> > > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay.> > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong.> > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD> > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time.> > > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date.> > > > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more> > than this.> > > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points> > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects> > can delay marriage.> > > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of> > Ra.> > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in> > the Nks of Ju.> > > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is> > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to> > the problem of marriage.> > > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house> > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of> > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles.> > > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the> > known factors is sweet voice of this lady).> > > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by> > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate)> > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house.> > > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as> > provided initially.> > > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay.> > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear> > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the> > evaluation becomes easy thereafter.> > > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even> > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not.> > > > > > A point to ponder !> > > > > > Regards,> > > Nikhlesh> > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji> > > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when> > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times> > to nullify bad effects.> > > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational> > aspects of her life.> > > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!!> > > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and> > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15> > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3> > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas?> > > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in> > discussions.> > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > Hussein> > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43> > PM for study, 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9> > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that> > is what I got.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju> > delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over.> > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04),> > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth> > time.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have> > given marriage to her in its AD.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be> > accurate.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon.> > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no> > connectivity in D-9 chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu> > and Moon and then deducing the time.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or> > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the> > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you> > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in> > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be> > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister> > and this girl.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows> > skin problems.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this> > chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20> > AM for study, 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was> > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query> > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was> > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I> > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing> > something.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many> > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found> > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being> > intelligent) .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members> > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all> > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am> > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my> > leisure time.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the> > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to> > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm> > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t.> > given events are;> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both> > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also> > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some> > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when> > the opportunity comes to your door).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime> > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage> > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it> > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some> > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need> > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead> > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992), then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder> > sister.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and> > they also are not interested in her marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd> > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in> > education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that> > Girl.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best Wishes> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein> > > > > > > > > > > > > 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