Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Dear bpshiv 1)When a planet is in 6H in Navamsa,it will not spoil that planet,unless the Asc is Vargottama. 2)What is the meaning of this sentence you have told? " Sa is LoB, aspects Hs B. Moderate delay but her Lagna having 36 pts and her mind was focused on education " .There are problems in your analysis as per delay,Please check the delay of Sa and Ju and then the delay for Women's chart which have given in a lesson. 3)Why do you think 22.43 pm is wrong?Please give your reasons. We have discussed about that and take it as the correct time.If you are not agree with it,give your reasons. Best Wishes Hussein --- , " BPShiv " <chandni_99 wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji and group, > My analysis: sorry for the delay! > > > Oct 24/1975 17N11 78E01 > Time: 10:20 pm Gem Asc DoNot Match. > > Lagna has 29 pts. 7th Hs has 23 pts. > > > > Lag and 7th: Mer / Ju 1:7 > > Mo and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 > > Su and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 > > Ve and 7th: Su / Sa 4:10nMa and 7th: Mer / Ju 1:7 > > > > Moderate delay. Overall WS points are good. > > > > _____________ > > > > > > Time: 11:20 pm Cancer Asc Rectified time 11:30 pm. > > If we rectify the time to 11:30 pm then the sectors match per her education. > > Lagna has 36 pts vs 7th Hs has 30 pts. > > Lag and 7th: Mo / Sa 3:11 > > Mo and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 > > Su and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 > > Ve and 7th: Su / Sa 3:11 > > Ma and 7th: Me / Ju 1:7 > > > > Ve to Sun distance is > 46 degrees. Fairly High hence Ve is out of control and if this Ve is in nakshatra of Ve than I think it will be spoilt more. > > 6th Lo is Ju and also in 6th Hs in navamsa and hence guru is spoilt. Both karaks are spoilt and hence the result willnot be fruitful. > > This Ve is aspected by Ma. If Ve is out of control and aspected by Ma it will give more sexual energy. She might have a companion or a live-in relationship without wedlock during Me antra as Me is LoE but is also aspected by 6th Lo and hence might not have given +ve result. > > > > Delay: Sa is LoB, aspects Hs B. Moderate delay but her Lagna having 36 pts and her mind was focused on education. > > Sectors: 3 sectors of Me, 2 Sa, 1 Ma, 1 Ju, 1 Mo and 1 Ve. This shows her brilliancy and her education with her adamant nature. Also she has a sector of Mars which adds her aggressiveness. > > Conclusion: > > She must have had some strong relationship in Me antra Apr 2002 - Jul 2004 and might have broken in Ve antra Jun 2005 to Feb 2008. As 12th Hs is weak for Ve in WS. Hussein ji, it would be nice if you could find out if she had broken relationships in the past. > > Ma antra from Apr 2010 to Mar 2011 should give result. Ma is in Hs E, has good pts for 7th Hs in WS and also is with FK Su and aspected by LoE Me in navamsa. > > > > Thank you, > > -Bella > > - > Hussein > > Friday, April 09, 2010 6:54 AM > Re: A good case for study > > > > Dear Anup ji > > Yes,you are right.Excuse me for this mistake. > I am sorry for that. > Yes Ma has more than 20,so can give the results,then my 2nd possible date for her marriage is Ma (1 possibility was Mo as it has placed in HD) which is the highest power planet in WS,means in Ju-Ma, > 2010-Jul-06 2011-Jun-11 > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > , " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > >  > >  > > Planet having more than 20 points can give event irrespect of it's sight on > > houses A B or C.Here Mars becomes powerful by virtue of 4:10 relation > >  > > Now as you said about rasi sandhi in your previous mail,don't you think > > we consider power of a planet by it's placement in a particular sign. > >  > > Here this power is fixed and we can not condense or dilute this by considering > > it's degree in a sign.Ju at 1 deg have the same power in  worksheet for > > itself as it will have at 29 deg. > >  > > Again in SAV it will get the fixed support from other planets in a sign,no matter > > at whcih degree it situated. > >  > > So how Ju can be considered weak in it's primary or later stage? > >  > > As we are learning KAS and things are becoming crystal clear slowly so we can > > check these perverted things with the help this powerful system. > >  > >  > > Regards > > Anup > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > > > --- On Thu, 8/4/10, Hussein <ahahosien@> wrote: > > > > > > Hussein <ahahosien@> > > Re: A good case for study > > > > Thursday, 8 April, 2010, 5:16 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji ,Anup ji and members > > > > After the good guides of Ash ji,It will be good if I add more things to my analysis.Here we need to check the delay's in women's chart too. > > 1-Mo is in 12th house,potentially it will add the delay, > > 2-The aspect of Ma and Ra on 7H/7L will increase the delay too,here,in her chart, Ma has sight on 7H(Ma is malefic as it is 6L),and Ra has its 5th sight on Ju as 7L. > > 3-Normal delay of Sa and Ju > > 4-Aspect of Ju on 2nd house > > > > I think These reasons plus other reasons I've written in previous message,she will marry at the age of 36/37 means Ju-Mo.I think Ma antra can't give marriage,though Ma is highest point planet in WS,but as it has sight on 7H,it can't give marriage(I want Ash ji and Anup ji to guide me here) .It is possible if she marry on Sa-Sa as another possible date.(Though Sa is the lowest planet in WS but as it is SD for LOD,it may give marriage. > > > > With best wishes > > > > Hussein > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Particular reference of Mo with Sa is given in lesson on delayed marriage. > > > Kindly read up on that. Secondly this lady is very intelligent and that > > > everyone can see as per lesson i.e. lagna, su and mo in nav, Dreshkon and > > > Trishansa. > > > > > > The facts are tallying. She is very educated and with Sa and Mo, in such > > > cases, (I am taking Sa and Mo in 5th house in Nav), so that will delay > > > marriage. She might be focused on education and pursuits of study. > > > > > > I have just checked the chart briefly, due to lack of time, however these > > > are my thoughts. That said, I might be wrong as I haven't spent enough time > > > on the chart. > > > > > > Just thought of sharing my observation. Other observations that you all > > > have shared is all perfect. > > > > > > Keep it up. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of Hussein > > > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: A good case for study > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju > > > is in Navamsa of Sa. > > > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to > > > nullify bad effects in the chart. > > > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation > > > position,but it is in rasi sandhi. > > > Also Mo is with Sa in D9. > > > Afflications in this manner: > > > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H > > > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 > > > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD > > > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees > > > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there > > > > > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's > > > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. > > > > > > With best wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > <nikhleshmathur@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > 08.04.10 > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, > > > 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this > > > time; > > > > > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > > > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > > > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD > > > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > > > > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more > > > than this. > > > > > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points > > > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects > > > can delay marriage. > > > > > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of > > > Ra. > > > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in > > > the Nks of Ju. > > > > > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is > > > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to > > > the problem of marriage. > > > > > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house > > > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of > > > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > > > > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the > > > known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > > > > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by > > > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) > > > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > > > > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as > > > provided initially. > > > > > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. > > > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear > > > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the > > > evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > > > > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even > > > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. > > > > > > > > A point to ponder ! > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Nikhlesh > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when > > > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times > > > to nullify bad effects. > > > > > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational > > > aspects of her life. > > > > > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > > > > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and > > > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 > > > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 > > > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > > > > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in > > > discussions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 > > > PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 > > > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that > > > is what I got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. > > > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), > > > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have > > > given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. > > > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no > > > connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu > > > and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or > > > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the > > > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you > > > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in > > > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be > > > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister > > > and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows > > > skin problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 > > > AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was > > > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query > > > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was > > > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I > > > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many > > > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found > > > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being > > > intelligent) . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members > > > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all > > > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am > > > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my > > > leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the > > > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to > > > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm > > > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. > > > given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both > > > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also > > > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some > > > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when > > > the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime > > > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage > > > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it > > > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some > > > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need > > > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead > > > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992), then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder > > > sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and > > > they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd > > > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in > > > education > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Dear Hussein ji, The given time on this chart 11:20 pm which is 4 Ca 33. I have rectified the time by 10 min than the actual given time from 11:20 pm to 11:30 pm because I thought that according to the education that she possess the sectors are lining up in reference to 2 sectors of Sa and 3 sectors of Me and also the dates. Your second point, staying on the same wavelength, which is Cancer Asc, Sa will be LoB and will have the 7th aspect to Hs B. Her delay period should be till around 24 yrs of age which will be somewhere in 1999. Now that was Sa antra and Sa is weak for WS. Followed by Me antra which is LoE but aspected by 6th Lo might have spoilt the result and given her a relationship that didn't fructify. After that she is in Ketu antra which is SD to Sa and Sa is weak in WS therefore when Ve antra follows after that which is LoD might have given her a break in that relationship. Now why Cancer Asc and not Gemini Asc: According to the high Lagna points and a sector of Mars she has her strong will to do what she wants to do in life. Karaks being spoilt and if she wants to be focused on education that could be very well a reason for a man made delay. You also mentioned that she cannot get along with her brothers or sisters, so according to Gem Asc she should be very mild natured. So with few of this characteristics Cancerian lagna suits her better. So two reasons, one she could have had a relationship and the marriage was delayed due to the karaks being spoilt and the aspect of 6th Lo OR there could be manmade delay due to her adament nature and aggressiveness towards education. These are my reasons for rectifying the time by 10 mins staying with the same Asc, as you said that time needs rectification, I was trying to keep the events given like education, in line. Thank you, -Bella - Hussein Friday, April 09, 2010 11:48 AM Re: A good case for study Dear bpshiv1)When a planet is in 6H in Navamsa,it will not spoil that planet,unless the Asc is Vargottama.2)What is the meaning of this sentence you have told?" Sa is LoB, aspects Hs B. Moderate delay but her Lagna having 36 pts and her mind was focused on education".There are problems in your analysis as per delay,Please check the delay of Sa and Ju and then the delay for Women's chart which have given in a lesson.3)Why do you think 22.43 pm is wrong?Please give your reasons.We have discussed about that and take it as the correct time.If you are not agree with it,give your reasons.Best WishesHussein------------------------- , "BPShiv" <chandni_99 wrote:>> Dear Hussein ji and group,> My analysis: sorry for the delay!> > > Oct 24/1975 17N11 78E01 > Time: 10:20 pm Gem Asc DoNot Match.> > Lagna has 29 pts. 7th Hs has 23 pts.> > > > Lag and 7th: Mer / Ju 1:7> > Mo and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11> > Su and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11> > Ve and 7th: Su / Sa 4:10nMa and 7th: Mer / Ju 1:7> > > > Moderate delay. Overall WS points are good.> > > > ________> > > > > > Time: 11:20 pm Cancer Asc Rectified time 11:30 pm.> > If we rectify the time to 11:30 pm then the sectors match per her education.> > Lagna has 36 pts vs 7th Hs has 30 pts.> > Lag and 7th: Mo / Sa 3:11 > > Mo and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11> > Su and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11> > Ve and 7th: Su / Sa 3:11> > Ma and 7th: Me / Ju 1:7> > > > Ve to Sun distance is > 46 degrees. Fairly High hence Ve is out of control and if this Ve is in nakshatra of Ve than I think it will be spoilt more.> > 6th Lo is Ju and also in 6th Hs in navamsa and hence guru is spoilt. Both karaks are spoilt and hence the result willnot be fruitful.> > This Ve is aspected by Ma. If Ve is out of control and aspected by Ma it will give more sexual energy. She might have a companion or a live-in relationship without wedlock during Me antra as Me is LoE but is also aspected by 6th Lo and hence might not have given +ve result.> > > > Delay: Sa is LoB, aspects Hs B. Moderate delay but her Lagna having 36 pts and her mind was focused on education.> > Sectors: 3 sectors of Me, 2 Sa, 1 Ma, 1 Ju, 1 Mo and 1 Ve. This shows her brilliancy and her education with her adamant nature. Also she has a sector of Mars which adds her aggressiveness.> > Conclusion: > > She must have had some strong relationship in Me antra Apr 2002 - Jul 2004 and might have broken in Ve antra Jun 2005 to Feb 2008. As 12th Hs is weak for Ve in WS. Hussein ji, it would be nice if you could find out if she had broken relationships in the past.> > Ma antra from Apr 2010 to Mar 2011 should give result. Ma is in Hs E, has good pts for 7th Hs in WS and also is with FK Su and aspected by LoE Me in navamsa.> > > > Thank you,> > -Bella> > - > Hussein > > Friday, April 09, 2010 6:54 AM> Re: A good case for study> > > > Dear Anup ji> > Yes,you are right.Excuse me for this mistake.> I am sorry for that.> Yes Ma has more than 20,so can give the results,then my 2nd possible date for her marriage is Ma (1 possibility was Mo as it has placed in HD) which is the highest power planet in WS,means in Ju-Ma, > 2010-Jul-06 2011-Jun-11 > > Best Wishes> > Hussein> > , "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> >> > Dear Hussein ji,> >  > >  > > Planet having more than 20 points can give event irrespect of it's sight on> > houses A B or C.Here Mars becomes powerful by virtue of 4:10 relation > >  > > Now as you said about rasi sandhi in your previous mail,don't you think> > we consider power of a planet by it's placement in a particular sign.> >  > > Here this power is fixed and we can not condense or dilute this by considering> > it's degree in a sign.Ju at 1 deg have the same power in  worksheet for> > itself as it will have at 29 deg.> >  > > Again in SAV it will get the fixed support from other planets in a sign,no matter> > at whcih degree it situated.> >  > > So how Ju can be considered weak in it's primary or later stage?> >  > > As we are learning KAS and things are becoming crystal clear slowly so we can> > check these perverted things with the help this powerful system.> >  > >  > > Regards> > Anup> >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > > > --- On Thu, 8/4/10, Hussein <ahahosien@> wrote:> > > > > > Hussein <ahahosien@>> > Re: A good case for study> > > > Thursday, 8 April, 2010, 5:16 PM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji ,Anup ji and members> > > > After the good guides of Ash ji,It will be good if I add more things to my analysis.Here we need to check the delay's in women's chart too.> > 1-Mo is in 12th house,potentially it will add the delay,> > 2-The aspect of Ma and Ra on 7H/7L will increase the delay too,here,in her chart, Ma has sight on 7H(Ma is malefic as it is 6L),and Ra has its 5th sight on Ju as 7L.> > 3-Normal delay of Sa and Ju> > 4-Aspect of Ju on 2nd house> > > > I think These reasons plus other reasons I've written in previous message,she will marry at the age of 36/37 means Ju-Mo.I think Ma antra can't give marriage,though Ma is highest point planet in WS,but as it has sight on 7H,it can't give marriage(I want Ash ji and Anup ji to guide me here) .It is possible if she marry on Sa-Sa as another possible date.(Though Sa is the lowest planet in WS but as it is SD for LOD,it may give marriage.> > > > With best wishes> > > > Hussein> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner@" <kas@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > Particular reference of Mo with Sa is given in lesson on delayed marriage.> > > Kindly read up on that. Secondly this lady is very intelligent and that> > > everyone can see as per lesson i.e. lagna, su and mo in nav, Dreshkon and> > > Trishansa.> > > > > > The facts are tallying. She is very educated and with Sa and Mo, in such> > > cases, (I am taking Sa and Mo in 5th house in Nav), so that will delay> > > marriage. She might be focused on education and pursuits of study.> > > > > > I have just checked the chart briefly, due to lack of time, however these> > > are my thoughts. That said, I might be wrong as I haven't spent enough time> > > on the chart.> > > > > > Just thought of sharing my observation. Other observations that you all> > > have shared is all perfect.> > > > > > Keep it up.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of Hussein> > > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: A good case for study> > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji> > > > > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju> > > is in Navamsa of Sa.> > > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to> > > nullify bad effects in the chart.> > > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation> > > position,but it is in rasi sandhi.> > > Also Mo is with Sa in D9.> > > Afflications in this manner:> > > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H> > > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9> > > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD> > > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees> > > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there> > > > > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's> > > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD.> > > > > > With best wishes> > > > > > Hussein> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> > > <nikhleshmathur@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > 08.04.10> > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same,> > > 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group,> > > > > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this> > > time;> > > > > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay.> > > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong.> > > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD> > > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time.> > > > > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date.> > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more> > > than this.> > > > > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points> > > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects> > > can delay marriage.> > > > > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of> > > Ra.> > > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in> > > the Nks of Ju.> > > > > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is> > > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to> > > the problem of marriage.> > > > > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house> > > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of> > > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles.> > > > > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the> > > known factors is sweet voice of this lady).> > > > > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by> > > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate)> > > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house.> > > > > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as> > > provided initially.> > > > > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay.> > > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear> > > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the> > > evaluation becomes easy thereafter.> > > > > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even> > > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not.> > > > > > > > A point to ponder !> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Nikhlesh> > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji> > > > > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when> > > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times> > > to nullify bad effects.> > > > > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational> > > aspects of her life.> > > > > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!!> > > > > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and> > > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15> > > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3> > > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas?> > > > > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in> > > discussions.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > > > Hussein> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43> > > PM for study, 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9> > > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that> > > is what I got.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju> > > delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over.> > > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04),> > > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth> > > time.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have> > > given marriage to her in its AD.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be> > > accurate.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon.> > > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no> > > connectivity in D-9 chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu> > > and Moon and then deducing the time.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or> > > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the> > > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you> > > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in> > > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be> > > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister> > > and this girl.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows> > > skin problems.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this> > > chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20> > > AM for study, 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was> > > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query> > > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was> > > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I> > > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing> > > something.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many> > > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found> > > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being> > > intelligent) .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members> > > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all> > > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am> > > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my> > > leisure time.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the> > > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to> > > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm> > > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t.> > > given events are;> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both> > > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also> > > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some> > > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when> > > the opportunity comes to your door).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime> > > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage> > > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it> > > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some> > > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need> > > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead> > > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992), then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder> > > sister.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and> > > they also are not interested in her marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd> > > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in> > > education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Dear Hussein ji, The given time on this chart 11:20 pm which is 4 Ca 33. I have rectified the time by 10 min than the actual given time from 11:20 pm to 11:30 pm because I thought that according to the education that she possess the sectors are lining up in reference to 2 sectors of Sa and 3 sectors of Me and also the dates. Your second point, staying on the same wavelength, which is Cancer Asc, Sa will be LoB and will have the 7th aspect to Hs B. Her delay period should be till around 24 yrs of age which will be somewhere in 1999. Now that was Sa antra and Sa is weak for WS. Followed by Me antra which is LoE but aspected by 6th Lo might have spoilt the result and given her a relationship that didn't fructify. After that she is in Ketu antra which is SD to Sa and Sa is weak in WS therefore when Ve antra follows after that which is LoD might have given her a break in that relationship. Now why Cancer Asc and not Gemini Asc: According to the high Lagna points and a sector of Mars she has her strong will to do what she wants to do in life. Karaks being spoilt and if she wants to be focused on education that could be very well a reason for a man made delay. You also mentioned that she cannot get along with her brothers or sisters, so according to Gem Asc she should be very mild natured. So with few of this characteristics Cancerian lagna suits her better. So two reasons, one she could have had a relationship and the marriage was delayed due to the karaks being spoilt and the aspect of 6th Lo OR there could be manmade delay due to her adament nature and aggressiveness towards education. These are my reasons for rectifying the time by 10 mins staying with the same Asc, as you said that time needs rectification, I was trying to keep the events given like education, in line. Thank you, -Bella. - Hussein Friday, April 09, 2010 11:48 AM Re: A good case for study Dear bpshiv1)When a planet is in 6H in Navamsa,it will not spoil that planet,unless the Asc is Vargottama.2)What is the meaning of this sentence you have told?" Sa is LoB, aspects Hs B. Moderate delay but her Lagna having 36 pts and her mind was focused on education".There are problems in your analysis as per delay,Please check the delay of Sa and Ju and then the delay for Women's chart which have given in a lesson.3)Why do you think 22.43 pm is wrong?Please give your reasons.We have discussed about that and take it as the correct time.If you are not agree with it,give your reasons.Best WishesHussein------------------------- , "BPShiv" <chandni_99 wrote:>> Dear Hussein ji and group,> My analysis: sorry for the delay!> > > Oct 24/1975 17N11 78E01 > Time: 10:20 pm Gem Asc DoNot Match.> > Lagna has 29 pts. 7th Hs has 23 pts.> > > > Lag and 7th: Mer / Ju 1:7> > Mo and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11> > Su and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11> > Ve and 7th: Su / Sa 4:10nMa and 7th: Mer / Ju 1:7> > > > Moderate delay. Overall WS points are good.> > > > ________> > > > > > Time: 11:20 pm Cancer Asc Rectified time 11:30 pm.> > If we rectify the time to 11:30 pm then the sectors match per her education.> > Lagna has 36 pts vs 7th Hs has 30 pts.> > Lag and 7th: Mo / Sa 3:11 > > Mo and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11> > Su and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11> > Ve and 7th: Su / Sa 3:11> > Ma and 7th: Me / Ju 1:7> > > > Ve to Sun distance is > 46 degrees. Fairly High hence Ve is out of control and if this Ve is in nakshatra of Ve than I think it will be spoilt more.> > 6th Lo is Ju and also in 6th Hs in navamsa and hence guru is spoilt. Both karaks are spoilt and hence the result willnot be fruitful.> > This Ve is aspected by Ma. If Ve is out of control and aspected by Ma it will give more sexual energy. She might have a companion or a live-in relationship without wedlock during Me antra as Me is LoE but is also aspected by 6th Lo and hence might not have given +ve result.> > > > Delay: Sa is LoB, aspects Hs B. Moderate delay but her Lagna having 36 pts and her mind was focused on education.> > Sectors: 3 sectors of Me, 2 Sa, 1 Ma, 1 Ju, 1 Mo and 1 Ve. This shows her brilliancy and her education with her adamant nature. Also she has a sector of Mars which adds her aggressiveness.> > Conclusion: > > She must have had some strong relationship in Me antra Apr 2002 - Jul 2004 and might have broken in Ve antra Jun 2005 to Feb 2008. As 12th Hs is weak for Ve in WS. Hussein ji, it would be nice if you could find out if she had broken relationships in the past.> > Ma antra from Apr 2010 to Mar 2011 should give result. Ma is in Hs E, has good pts for 7th Hs in WS and also is with FK Su and aspected by LoE Me in navamsa.> > > > Thank you,> > -Bella> > - > Hussein > > Friday, April 09, 2010 6:54 AM> Re: A good case for study> > > > Dear Anup ji> > Yes,you are right.Excuse me for this mistake.> I am sorry for that.> Yes Ma has more than 20,so can give the results,then my 2nd possible date for her marriage is Ma (1 possibility was Mo as it has placed in HD) which is the highest power planet in WS,means in Ju-Ma, > 2010-Jul-06 2011-Jun-11 > > Best Wishes> > Hussein> > , "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> >> > Dear Hussein ji,> >  > >  > > Planet having more than 20 points can give event irrespect of it's sight on> > houses A B or C.Here Mars becomes powerful by virtue of 4:10 relation > >  > > Now as you said about rasi sandhi in your previous mail,don't you think> > we consider power of a planet by it's placement in a particular sign.> >  > > Here this power is fixed and we can not condense or dilute this by considering> > it's degree in a sign.Ju at 1 deg have the same power in  worksheet for> > itself as it will have at 29 deg.> >  > > Again in SAV it will get the fixed support from other planets in a sign,no matter> > at whcih degree it situated.> >  > > So how Ju can be considered weak in it's primary or later stage?> >  > > As we are learning KAS and things are becoming crystal clear slowly so we can> > check these perverted things with the help this powerful system.> >  > >  > > Regards> > Anup> >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > > > --- On Thu, 8/4/10, Hussein <ahahosien@> wrote:> > > > > > Hussein <ahahosien@>> > Re: A good case for study> > > > Thursday, 8 April, 2010, 5:16 PM> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji ,Anup ji and members> > > > After the good guides of Ash ji,It will be good if I add more things to my analysis.Here we need to check the delay's in women's chart too.> > 1-Mo is in 12th house,potentially it will add the delay,> > 2-The aspect of Ma and Ra on 7H/7L will increase the delay too,here,in her chart, Ma has sight on 7H(Ma is malefic as it is 6L),and Ra has its 5th sight on Ju as 7L.> > 3-Normal delay of Sa and Ju> > 4-Aspect of Ju on 2nd house> > > > I think These reasons plus other reasons I've written in previous message,she will marry at the age of 36/37 means Ju-Mo.I think Ma antra can't give marriage,though Ma is highest point planet in WS,but as it has sight on 7H,it can't give marriage(I want Ash ji and Anup ji to guide me here) .It is possible if she marry on Sa-Sa as another possible date.(Though Sa is the lowest planet in WS but as it is SD for LOD,it may give marriage.> > > > With best wishes> > > > Hussein> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner@" <kas@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > Particular reference of Mo with Sa is given in lesson on delayed marriage.> > > Kindly read up on that. Secondly this lady is very intelligent and that> > > everyone can see as per lesson i.e. lagna, su and mo in nav, Dreshkon and> > > Trishansa.> > > > > > The facts are tallying. She is very educated and with Sa and Mo, in such> > > cases, (I am taking Sa and Mo in 5th house in Nav), so that will delay> > > marriage. She might be focused on education and pursuits of study.> > > > > > I have just checked the chart briefly, due to lack of time, however these> > > are my thoughts. That said, I might be wrong as I haven't spent enough time> > > on the chart.> > > > > > Just thought of sharing my observation. Other observations that you all> > > have shared is all perfect.> > > > > > Keep it up.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of Hussein> > > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: A good case for study> > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji> > > > > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju> > > is in Navamsa of Sa.> > > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to> > > nullify bad effects in the chart.> > > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation> > > position,but it is in rasi sandhi.> > > Also Mo is with Sa in D9.> > > Afflications in this manner:> > > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H> > > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9> > > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD> > > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees> > > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there> > > > > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's> > > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD.> > > > > > With best wishes> > > > > > Hussein> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> > > <nikhleshmathur@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > 08.04.10> > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same,> > > 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group,> > > > > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this> > > time;> > > > > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay.> > > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong.> > > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD> > > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time.> > > > > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date.> > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more> > > than this.> > > > > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points> > > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects> > > can delay marriage.> > > > > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of> > > Ra.> > > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in> > > the Nks of Ju.> > > > > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is> > > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to> > > the problem of marriage.> > > > > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house> > > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of> > > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles.> > > > > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the> > > known factors is sweet voice of this lady).> > > > > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by> > > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate)> > > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house.> > > > > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as> > > provided initially.> > > > > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay.> > > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear> > > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the> > > evaluation becomes easy thereafter.> > > > > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even> > > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not.> > > > > > > > A point to ponder !> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Nikhlesh> > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji> > > > > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when> > > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times> > > to nullify bad effects.> > > > > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational> > > aspects of her life.> > > > > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!!> > > > > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and> > > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15> > > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3> > > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas?> > > > > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in> > > discussions.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > > > Hussein> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43> > > PM for study, 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9> > > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that> > > is what I got.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju> > > delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over.> > > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04),> > > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth> > > time.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have> > > given marriage to her in its AD.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be> > > accurate.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon.> > > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no> > > connectivity in D-9 chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu> > > and Moon and then deducing the time.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or> > > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the> > > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you> > > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in> > > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be> > > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister> > > and this girl.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows> > > skin problems.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this> > > chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20> > > AM for study, 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was> > > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query> > > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was> > > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I> > > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing> > > something.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many> > > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found> > > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being> > > intelligent) .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members> > > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all> > > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am> > > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my> > > leisure time.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the> > > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , "nikhlesh mathur"> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to> > > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm> > > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t.> > > given events are;> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both> > > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also> > > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some> > > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when> > > the opportunity comes to your door).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime> > > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage> > > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it> > > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some> > > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need> > > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead> > > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992), then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder> > > sister.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and> > > they also are not interested in her marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd> > > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in> > > education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Dear bpshiv ji 1)How do you think Me as LOE but aspected by 6L can't give the results?!It is not good reason .We can see many charts which their marriage has taken place in Antra of 6L. 2)If you consider Gemini Lagna,you can see lagnadhipathi(Lagna lord) and 3rd lord are in 2/12 positions. 3)If we consider Gemini Lagna the items which may produce Delay in women's chart are obvious.Please refer to a lesson which is about delay in Women's chart. 4)Check educational status with 10.43 PM too and give your idea. 5)For 22.43 PM,the points of 1st house is high with 29 points. 6)Please check the accidents dates and match them with 10.43 PM.First is Feb-Mar 1992 ,means in Ve antra which is LOE for 7H,and also 6L for 6H. 7)Graduated July 1995,means in Mo antra ,as LOD for 5H and also with highest point.Again confirms 10.43 PM. 8)M.A. July 1997,means in Ma antra which has the highest points in WS for 9H and is also LOD for 9H.Again confirms 10.43 PM. 9)PHD.Jan 2001 ,means in Sa Antra,which is in House E,for 9H focus as House B though it has low point in WS.Again confirmS 10.43 PM. 10)8-Nov-1992 Her brother's death,means in Ve antra,which is in HE for 10H focus as House B.(10H is 8th from 3rd).Again confirms 10.43 PM 11)She has skin problems,we can see by 10.43 PM and ,Gemini Lagna,Ma as 6L is in Lagna.Again confirms that 10.43 PM is correct. 12)With 10.43 Pm she has 3 sectors of Sa,very good memory,which is one of conditions which allow a person to have higher education .Again confirms 10.43 PM. 13)By 10.43 Pm Sa is in 5H in D9 with Mo.Then Sa's delay.Also Ju has relation with both HA/HB.Also we can see the signs of delay in women's chart which has given in a lesson. With best Wishes Hussein --\ --------------------------- , " BPShiv " <chandni_99 wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji, > > The given time on this chart 11:20 pm which is 4 Ca 33. > I have rectified the time by 10 min than the actual given time from 11:20 pm to 11:30 pm because I thought that according to the education that she possess the sectors are lining up in reference to 2 sectors of Sa and 3 sectors of Me and also the dates. > > Your second point, staying on the same wavelength, which is Cancer Asc, Sa will be LoB and will have the 7th aspect to Hs B. Her delay period should be till around 24 yrs of age which will be somewhere in 1999. Now that was Sa antra and Sa is weak for WS. Followed by Me antra which is LoE but aspected by 6th Lo might have spoilt the result and given her a relationship that didn't fructify. After that she is in Ketu antra which is SD to Sa and Sa is weak in WS therefore when Ve antra follows after that which is LoD might have given her a break in that relationship. > > Now why Cancer Asc and not Gemini Asc: > According to the high Lagna points and a sector of Mars she has her strong will to do what she wants to do in life. Karaks being spoilt and if she wants to be focused on education that could be very well a reason for a man made delay. > You also mentioned that she cannot get along with her brothers or sisters, so according to Gem Asc she should be very mild natured. So with few of this characteristics Cancerian lagna suits her better. > > So two reasons, one she could have had a relationship and the marriage was delayed due to the karaks being spoilt and the aspect of 6th Lo OR there could be manmade delay due to her adament nature and aggressiveness towards education. > > These are my reasons for rectifying the time by 10 mins staying with the same Asc, as you said that time needs rectification, I was trying to keep the events given like education, in line. > > Thank you, > -Bella. > > > > - > Hussein > > Friday, April 09, 2010 11:48 AM > Re: A good case for study > > > > Dear bpshiv > > 1)When a planet is in 6H in Navamsa,it will not spoil that planet,unless the Asc is Vargottama. > > 2)What is the meaning of this sentence you have told? " Sa is LoB, aspects Hs B. Moderate delay but her Lagna having 36 pts and her mind was focused on education " .There are problems in your analysis as per delay,Please check the delay of Sa and Ju and then the delay for Women's chart which have given in a lesson. > > 3)Why do you think 22.43 pm is wrong?Please give your reasons. > We have discussed about that and take it as the correct time.If you are not agree with it,give your reasons. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > ------------------------- > > , " BPShiv " <chandni_99@> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji and group, > > My analysis: sorry for the delay! > > > > > > Oct 24/1975 17N11 78E01 > > Time: 10:20 pm Gem Asc DoNot Match. > > > > Lagna has 29 pts. 7th Hs has 23 pts. > > > > > > > > Lag and 7th: Mer / Ju 1:7 > > > > Mo and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 > > > > Su and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 > > > > Ve and 7th: Su / Sa 4:10nMa and 7th: Mer / Ju 1:7 > > > > > > > > Moderate delay. Overall WS points are good. > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 11:20 pm Cancer Asc Rectified time 11:30 pm. > > > > If we rectify the time to 11:30 pm then the sectors match per her education. > > > > Lagna has 36 pts vs 7th Hs has 30 pts. > > > > Lag and 7th: Mo / Sa 3:11 > > > > Mo and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 > > > > Su and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 > > > > Ve and 7th: Su / Sa 3:11 > > > > Ma and 7th: Me / Ju 1:7 > > > > > > > > Ve to Sun distance is > 46 degrees. Fairly High hence Ve is out of control and if this Ve is in nakshatra of Ve than I think it will be spoilt more. > > > > 6th Lo is Ju and also in 6th Hs in navamsa and hence guru is spoilt. Both karaks are spoilt and hence the result willnot be fruitful. > > > > This Ve is aspected by Ma. If Ve is out of control and aspected by Ma it will give more sexual energy. She might have a companion or a live-in relationship without wedlock during Me antra as Me is LoE but is also aspected by 6th Lo and hence might not have given +ve result. > > > > > > > > Delay: Sa is LoB, aspects Hs B. Moderate delay but her Lagna having 36 pts and her mind was focused on education. > > > > Sectors: 3 sectors of Me, 2 Sa, 1 Ma, 1 Ju, 1 Mo and 1 Ve. This shows her brilliancy and her education with her adamant nature. Also she has a sector of Mars which adds her aggressiveness. > > > > Conclusion: > > > > She must have had some strong relationship in Me antra Apr 2002 - Jul 2004 and might have broken in Ve antra Jun 2005 to Feb 2008. As 12th Hs is weak for Ve in WS. Hussein ji, it would be nice if you could find out if she had broken relationships in the past. > > > > Ma antra from Apr 2010 to Mar 2011 should give result. Ma is in Hs E, has good pts for 7th Hs in WS and also is with FK Su and aspected by LoE Me in navamsa. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > -Bella > > > > - > > Hussein > > > > Friday, April 09, 2010 6:54 AM > > Re: A good case for study > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji > > > > Yes,you are right.Excuse me for this mistake. > > I am sorry for that. > > Yes Ma has more than 20,so can give the results,then my 2nd possible date for her marriage is Ma (1 possibility was Mo as it has placed in HD) which is the highest power planet in WS,means in Ju-Ma, > > 2010-Jul-06 2011-Jun-11 > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > > > , " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > >  > > >  > > > Planet having more than 20 points can give event irrespect of it's sight on > > > houses A B or C.Here Mars becomes powerful by virtue of 4:10 relation > > >  > > > Now as you said about rasi sandhi in your previous mail,don't you think > > > we consider power of a planet by it's placement in a particular sign. > > >  > > > Here this power is fixed and we can not condense or dilute this by considering > > > it's degree in a sign.Ju at 1 deg have the same power in  worksheet for > > > itself as it will have at 29 deg. > > >  > > > Again in SAV it will get the fixed support from other planets in a sign,no matter > > > at whcih degree it situated. > > >  > > > So how Ju can be considered weak in it's primary or later stage? > > >  > > > As we are learning KAS and things are becoming crystal clear slowly so we can > > > check these perverted things with the help this powerful system. > > >  > > >  > > > Regards > > > Anup > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 8/4/10, Hussein <ahahosien@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hussein <ahahosien@> > > > Re: A good case for study > > > > > > Thursday, 8 April, 2010, 5:16 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji ,Anup ji and members > > > > > > After the good guides of Ash ji,It will be good if I add more things to my analysis.Here we need to check the delay's in women's chart too. > > > 1-Mo is in 12th house,potentially it will add the delay, > > > 2-The aspect of Ma and Ra on 7H/7L will increase the delay too,here,in her chart, Ma has sight on 7H(Ma is malefic as it is 6L),and Ra has its 5th sight on Ju as 7L. > > > 3-Normal delay of Sa and Ju > > > 4-Aspect of Ju on 2nd house > > > > > > I think These reasons plus other reasons I've written in previous message,she will marry at the age of 36/37 means Ju-Mo.I think Ma antra can't give marriage,though Ma is highest point planet in WS,but as it has sight on 7H,it can't give marriage(I want Ash ji and Anup ji to guide me here) .It is possible if she marry on Sa-Sa as another possible date.(Though Sa is the lowest planet in WS but as it is SD for LOD,it may give marriage. > > > > > > With best wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Particular reference of Mo with Sa is given in lesson on delayed marriage. > > > > Kindly read up on that. Secondly this lady is very intelligent and that > > > > everyone can see as per lesson i.e. lagna, su and mo in nav, Dreshkon and > > > > Trishansa. > > > > > > > > The facts are tallying. She is very educated and with Sa and Mo, in such > > > > cases, (I am taking Sa and Mo in 5th house in Nav), so that will delay > > > > marriage. She might be focused on education and pursuits of study. > > > > > > > > I have just checked the chart briefly, due to lack of time, however these > > > > are my thoughts. That said, I might be wrong as I haven't spent enough time > > > > on the chart. > > > > > > > > Just thought of sharing my observation. Other observations that you all > > > > have shared is all perfect. > > > > > > > > Keep it up. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of Hussein > > > > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: A good case for study > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju > > > > is in Navamsa of Sa. > > > > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to > > > > nullify bad effects in the chart. > > > > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation > > > > position,but it is in rasi sandhi. > > > > Also Mo is with Sa in D9. > > > > Afflications in this manner: > > > > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H > > > > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 > > > > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD > > > > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees > > > > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there > > > > > > > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's > > > > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. > > > > > > > > With best wishes > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > <nikhleshmathur@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, > > > > 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > > > > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this > > > > time; > > > > > > > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > > > > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > > > > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD > > > > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > > > > > > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > > > > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > > > > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more > > > > than this. > > > > > > > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points > > > > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects > > > > can delay marriage. > > > > > > > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of > > > > Ra. > > > > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in > > > > the Nks of Ju. > > > > > > > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is > > > > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > > > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to > > > > the problem of marriage. > > > > > > > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house > > > > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of > > > > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > > > > > > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the > > > > known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > > > > > > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by > > > > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) > > > > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > > > > > > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as > > > > provided initially. > > > > > > > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > > > > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. > > > > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > > > > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear > > > > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the > > > > evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > > > > > > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even > > > > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. > > > > > > > > > > A point to ponder ! > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Nikhlesh > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when > > > > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times > > > > to nullify bad effects. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational > > > > aspects of her life. > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > > > > > > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and > > > > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 > > > > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 > > > > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in > > > > discussions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 > > > > PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 > > > > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that > > > > is what I got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. > > > > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), > > > > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have > > > > given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. > > > > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no > > > > connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu > > > > and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or > > > > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the > > > > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you > > > > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in > > > > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be > > > > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister > > > > and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows > > > > skin problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 > > > > AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was > > > > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query > > > > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was > > > > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I > > > > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many > > > > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found > > > > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being > > > > intelligent) . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members > > > > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all > > > > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am > > > > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my > > > > leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the > > > > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to > > > > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm > > > > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. > > > > given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both > > > > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also > > > > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some > > > > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when > > > > the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime > > > > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage > > > > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it > > > > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some > > > > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need > > > > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead > > > > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992), then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder > > > > sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and > > > > they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd > > > > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in > > > > education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduate 1995, M.A.1997, PHD 2001, M.A.Economics 1997. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are all information that The Astrologer gave me about that > > > > Girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Dear Bella ji I have answered your message.It seems you have sent your message again. Best Wishes Hussein Heydari --\ --------------------------- , " BPShiv " <chandni_99 wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji, > > The given time on this chart 11:20 pm which is 4 Ca 33. > I have rectified the time by 10 min than the actual given time from 11:20 pm to 11:30 pm because I thought that according to the education that she possess the sectors are lining up in reference to 2 sectors of Sa and 3 sectors of Me and also the dates. > > Your second point, staying on the same wavelength, which is Cancer Asc, Sa will be LoB and will have the 7th aspect to Hs B. Her delay period should be till around 24 yrs of age which will be somewhere in 1999. Now that was Sa antra and Sa is weak for WS. Followed by Me antra which is LoE but aspected by 6th Lo might have spoilt the result and given her a relationship that didn't fructify. After that she is in Ketu antra which is SD to Sa and Sa is weak in WS therefore when Ve antra follows after that which is LoD might have given her a break in that relationship. > > Now why Cancer Asc and not Gemini Asc: > According to the high Lagna points and a sector of Mars she has her strong will to do what she wants to do in life. Karaks being spoilt and if she wants to be focused on education that could be very well a reason for a man made delay. > You also mentioned that she cannot get along with her brothers or sisters, so according to Gem Asc she should be very mild natured. So with few of this characteristics Cancerian lagna suits her better. > > So two reasons, one she could have had a relationship and the marriage was delayed due to the karaks being spoilt and the aspect of 6th Lo OR there could be manmade delay due to her adament nature and aggressiveness towards education. > > These are my reasons for rectifying the time by 10 mins staying with the same Asc, as you said that time needs rectification, I was trying to keep the events given like education, in line. > > Thank you, > -Bella > > > > - > Hussein > > Friday, April 09, 2010 11:48 AM > Re: A good case for study > > > > Dear bpshiv > > 1)When a planet is in 6H in Navamsa,it will not spoil that planet,unless the Asc is Vargottama. > > 2)What is the meaning of this sentence you have told? " Sa is LoB, aspects Hs B. Moderate delay but her Lagna having 36 pts and her mind was focused on education " .There are problems in your analysis as per delay,Please check the delay of Sa and Ju and then the delay for Women's chart which have given in a lesson. > > 3)Why do you think 22.43 pm is wrong?Please give your reasons. > We have discussed about that and take it as the correct time.If you are not agree with it,give your reasons. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > ------------------------- > > , " BPShiv " <chandni_99@> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji and group, > > My analysis: sorry for the delay! > > > > > > Oct 24/1975 17N11 78E01 > > Time: 10:20 pm Gem Asc DoNot Match. > > > > Lagna has 29 pts. 7th Hs has 23 pts. > > > > > > > > Lag and 7th: Mer / Ju 1:7 > > > > Mo and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 > > > > Su and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 > > > > Ve and 7th: Su / Sa 4:10nMa and 7th: Mer / Ju 1:7 > > > > > > > > Moderate delay. Overall WS points are good. > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 11:20 pm Cancer Asc Rectified time 11:30 pm. > > > > If we rectify the time to 11:30 pm then the sectors match per her education. > > > > Lagna has 36 pts vs 7th Hs has 30 pts. > > > > Lag and 7th: Mo / Sa 3:11 > > > > Mo and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 > > > > Su and 7th: Ve / Ma 3:11 > > > > Ve and 7th: Su / Sa 3:11 > > > > Ma and 7th: Me / Ju 1:7 > > > > > > > > Ve to Sun distance is > 46 degrees. Fairly High hence Ve is out of control and if this Ve is in nakshatra of Ve than I think it will be spoilt more. > > > > 6th Lo is Ju and also in 6th Hs in navamsa and hence guru is spoilt. Both karaks are spoilt and hence the result willnot be fruitful. > > > > This Ve is aspected by Ma. If Ve is out of control and aspected by Ma it will give more sexual energy. She might have a companion or a live-in relationship without wedlock during Me antra as Me is LoE but is also aspected by 6th Lo and hence might not have given +ve result. > > > > > > > > Delay: Sa is LoB, aspects Hs B. Moderate delay but her Lagna having 36 pts and her mind was focused on education. > > > > Sectors: 3 sectors of Me, 2 Sa, 1 Ma, 1 Ju, 1 Mo and 1 Ve. This shows her brilliancy and her education with her adamant nature. Also she has a sector of Mars which adds her aggressiveness. > > > > Conclusion: > > > > She must have had some strong relationship in Me antra Apr 2002 - Jul 2004 and might have broken in Ve antra Jun 2005 to Feb 2008. As 12th Hs is weak for Ve in WS. Hussein ji, it would be nice if you could find out if she had broken relationships in the past. > > > > Ma antra from Apr 2010 to Mar 2011 should give result. Ma is in Hs E, has good pts for 7th Hs in WS and also is with FK Su and aspected by LoE Me in navamsa. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > -Bella > > > > - > > Hussein > > > > Friday, April 09, 2010 6:54 AM > > Re: A good case for study > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji > > > > Yes,you are right.Excuse me for this mistake. > > I am sorry for that. > > Yes Ma has more than 20,so can give the results,then my 2nd possible date for her marriage is Ma (1 possibility was Mo as it has placed in HD) which is the highest power planet in WS,means in Ju-Ma, > > 2010-Jul-06 2011-Jun-11 > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > > > , " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > >  > > >  > > > Planet having more than 20 points can give event irrespect of it's sight on > > > houses A B or C.Here Mars becomes powerful by virtue of 4:10 relation > > >  > > > Now as you said about rasi sandhi in your previous mail,don't you think > > > we consider power of a planet by it's placement in a particular sign. > > >  > > > Here this power is fixed and we can not condense or dilute this by considering > > > it's degree in a sign.Ju at 1 deg have the same power in  worksheet for > > > itself as it will have at 29 deg. > > >  > > > Again in SAV it will get the fixed support from other planets in a sign,no matter > > > at whcih degree it situated. > > >  > > > So how Ju can be considered weak in it's primary or later stage? > > >  > > > As we are learning KAS and things are becoming crystal clear slowly so we can > > > check these perverted things with the help this powerful system. > > >  > > >  > > > Regards > > > Anup > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 8/4/10, Hussein <ahahosien@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hussein <ahahosien@> > > > Re: A good case for study > > > > > > Thursday, 8 April, 2010, 5:16 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji ,Anup ji and members > > > > > > After the good guides of Ash ji,It will be good if I add more things to my analysis.Here we need to check the delay's in women's chart too. > > > 1-Mo is in 12th house,potentially it will add the delay, > > > 2-The aspect of Ma and Ra on 7H/7L will increase the delay too,here,in her chart, Ma has sight on 7H(Ma is malefic as it is 6L),and Ra has its 5th sight on Ju as 7L. > > > 3-Normal delay of Sa and Ju > > > 4-Aspect of Ju on 2nd house > > > > > > I think These reasons plus other reasons I've written in previous message,she will marry at the age of 36/37 means Ju-Mo.I think Ma antra can't give marriage,though Ma is highest point planet in WS,but as it has sight on 7H,it can't give marriage(I want Ash ji and Anup ji to guide me here) .It is possible if she marry on Sa-Sa as another possible date.(Though Sa is the lowest planet in WS but as it is SD for LOD,it may give marriage. > > > > > > With best wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Particular reference of Mo with Sa is given in lesson on delayed marriage. > > > > Kindly read up on that. Secondly this lady is very intelligent and that > > > > everyone can see as per lesson i.e. lagna, su and mo in nav, Dreshkon and > > > > Trishansa. > > > > > > > > The facts are tallying. She is very educated and with Sa and Mo, in such > > > > cases, (I am taking Sa and Mo in 5th house in Nav), so that will delay > > > > marriage. She might be focused on education and pursuits of study. > > > > > > > > I have just checked the chart briefly, due to lack of time, however these > > > > are my thoughts. That said, I might be wrong as I haven't spent enough time > > > > on the chart. > > > > > > > > Just thought of sharing my observation. Other observations that you all > > > > have shared is all perfect. > > > > > > > > Keep it up. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of Hussein > > > > Thursday April 8, 2010 6:02 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: A good case for study > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > Please note that the aspect of Ju on Sa can't moderate the delay,because Ju > > > > is in Navamsa of Sa. > > > > Secondly,After ending Sa's delay,Ju has to hit 7H/7L for several times to > > > > nullify bad effects in the chart. > > > > thirdly, I think Mo as FK is not strong,though it is in its exaltation > > > > position,but it is in rasi sandhi. > > > > Also Mo is with Sa in D9. > > > > Afflications in this manner: > > > > 1)Ma as 6L has sight on 7H > > > > 2)Mo is with Sa in D9 > > > > 3)Ma as 6L has sight on HD > > > > 4)Distance between Su and Ve is more than 43 degrees > > > > 5)We have both Sa and Ju elays there > > > > > > > > Generally I think the girl will marry in the age of 35/36,means in Mo's > > > > antra.As Mo is in HE and also SD for Me as LOD. > > > > > > > > With best wishes > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > <nikhleshmathur@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 08.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), kept same, > > > > 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein and Group, > > > > > > > > > > The birth time 22.43 hrs (10.43 pm) might not be true because with this > > > > time; > > > > > > > > > > i) Ju aspects Sa to moderate its delay. > > > > > ii) Both FK & NK become strong. > > > > > iii) Me sits in house D with high points to facilitate marriage in its AD > > > > (which did not happen). Me is LoD also with this 22.43 hrs time. > > > > > > > > > > Me would always be there in house D when the ascendant is Ge on this date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that I am thinking that the Asc might not be Ge. > > > > > > > > > > Let us once again consider the given time 23.20 only and re-study. > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 pm birth time we get Asc 4Cn33. > > > > > > > > > > There is no Sa delay and no Ju delay. So there should be something more > > > > than this. > > > > > > > > > > Sa gives malefic aspect on 7th house. The 1st house has very high points > > > > (36). Ra aspects Moon in D-1 and is in Moon sign in D-9. All these effects > > > > can delay marriage. > > > > > > > > > > The karak of marriage Sun is in the Nks of Ra and so under full effect of > > > > Ra. > > > > > Here Ra also aspects the RK for marriage (Ju) and incidently Ra is also in > > > > the Nks of Ju. > > > > > > > > > > So both karak & root karak of marriage are affected by Rahu, which is > > > > always a problematic effect on the related event (here it is for marriage). > > > > > And this combined with Sa aspecting 7th house has added more bitterness to > > > > the problem of marriage. > > > > > > > > > > Ma also aspects 7th house. Ma controls Me which is the lord of 12th house > > > > (marital pleasure are seen from 12th house) and so the result of > > > > aggressiveness might be becoming one of the hurdles. > > > > > > > > > > Ve is in 2nd house and in 2nd house Ve gives good soft voice (one of the > > > > known factors is sweet voice of this lady). > > > > > > > > > > Skin problems are mainly given by Me and Ketu. Here Me is aspected by > > > > Ketu. The aspect of Ma on Me and the control of Me by Ma (boss: subordinate) > > > > might be weakening Me more.Ma aspects 6th house. > > > > > > > > > > This chart is worth analyzing with the same birth time 23.20 hrs as > > > > provided initially. > > > > > > > > > > I have a question here for all. > > > > > > > > > > Why do we always look for delay factors (Sa, Ju) to justify the delay. > > > > There can be something else also, as is quite evident from this chart. > > > > > > > > > > On the contrary I am beginning to think that if a chart exhibits clear > > > > delay then it also paves the way for the event to happen later and the > > > > evaluation becomes easy thereafter. > > > > > > > > > > But if a chart does not exhibit delay at all then one needs to be even > > > > more watchful as to whether the said event will take place at all or not. > > > > > > > > > > A point to ponder ! > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Nikhlesh > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:33:14 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > With 22.43 PM,when Ju's delay will over?I think it will over not just when > > > > it see 7H or its lord for one time,but it should hit them for several times > > > > to nullify bad effects. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway as I told it needs more study.As you told say about educational > > > > aspects of her life. > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why group is so silent?!! > > > > > > > > > > Yes,all of us are busy,I am also busy too,but what about Astrology and > > > > KAS?They should be stopped because of our works?don't we have at least 10-15 > > > > minutes per day(or if not in a day at least 10-15 minutes free after 2-3 > > > > days) free to come to the group and give our ideas? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you dear Nikhlesh ji for your attention and participation in > > > > discussions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 06.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 10.43 > > > > PM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With time 22.45 hrs (10.45 pm) I do not get Sa in 5th house in D-9 > > > > chart. I get this when I put time as 22.43 hrs. Not much difference but that > > > > is what I got. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analyzing further with birth time 22.43 hrs we get both Sa delay and Ju > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa delay gets over in April 2003 and later the Ju delay also gets over. > > > > But there seems to be more to her than the Sa + Ju delays for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After these delays are over She passes through the AD of Me (2003-04), > > > > which is LoD and strong for 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides both FK and NK become strong for 7th house with 22.43 hrs birth > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreoever Me gets placed in house D with 5 points and so should have > > > > given marriage to her in its AD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the marriage did not take place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason that birth time 22.43 hrs does not seem to be > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I feel is that her Rahu should be more connected with her Moon. > > > > With time 22.43 hrs her Rahu aspects Moon in D-1 chart but it has no > > > > connectivity in D-9 chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My earlier analysis was based on creating more connectivity between Rahu > > > > and Moon and then deducing the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to simultaneously focus on her high education with limited or > > > > rather zero income (?) even after such high qualification, to derive the > > > > correct birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:10:04 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your attention and giving your ideas.As you > > > > told,it is good if all group members participate and give their idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But,one thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's your idea about 10.45 PM,when Sa is in the 5th house in > > > > navamsa.We also have Ju's delay there.But it needs more study. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we can see that Me as Lagnadhipathi and also Su as 3rd lord will be > > > > in 2/12 positions.It may show bad relation between her brothers and sister > > > > and this girl. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some other characteristics of this girl: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some aggressive blunt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Sweet voice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fair color > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Some skin problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 10.45 PM we can see that Ma as 6th lord is in lagna.It may shows > > > > skin problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it will be great if all group members participate in analyzing this > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to 11.20 > > > > AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anjana ji, Hussein Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I sat to analyze the above chart I stated initially that it was > > > > my initial study on this chart and since it was mentioned in the query > > > > itself that time may need rectification, so I tried that and 11.20 am was > > > > chosen as a parameter for the 1st exercise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I began with the given 11.30 pm (23.30 hrs) time itself but I > > > > could not relate the chart with so much marriage delay. May be I was missing > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also thought that while communicating time for preparing chart, many > > > > times an error occurs in informing A.M or P.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I took A.M as a chance (1st attempt on this chart) and found > > > > something concurring to the events given (delayed marriage and girl being > > > > intelligent) . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted the ball to set rolling i.e. group members > > > > participating, contradicting the chosen time and it would also explain all > > > > of us as to why 11.30 am time, which I chose might not be true at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted group members to make a beggining with this chart. I am > > > > myself trying to further analyze it taking different birth times in my > > > > leisure time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So try to give your analysis and then perhaps we can zero in on the > > > > right birth time after deliberations and with the help of our Moderators. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 22:41:47 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Nikhlesh Mathur ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May i know the reason for changing time from 11:20 pm to 11:20 am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05.04.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: Female, 24-Oct-1975, 11.20 PM(given birth time), Changed to > > > > 11.20 AM for study, 27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 1st study (initial study) I changed the given time 11.20 pm > > > > (23.20 hrs) to 11.20 am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With 11.20 am we get Asc 11Sg42 and the striking aspects w.r.t. > > > > given events are; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Huge distance between Su and Ve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju delay in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Three sectors of Sa in divisional charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. F.K of marriage Sa is affected by Ra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. N.K. is weak for marriage (less than 12 points). Hence both > > > > karaks for marriage are not in good position. The root karak is also > > > > affected by Rahu ( it is in the Nks of Rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon is affected by Rahu (generally seen that this gives some > > > > eccentricity in thoughts and this could lead to negating things even when > > > > the opportunity comes to your door). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. The marriage age came in the MD of Ju and in that Ju MD the prime > > > > period 2003-2005, considering after the Ju delay, was negated for marriage > > > > by Sa because Sa aspects house A (hence would not allow marriage in its AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. With this birth time (11.20 am) her Ma becomes very strong and it > > > > being LoE can give marriage during Sept 2013 to Sept 2014 (Ma AD). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to analyze further and give more of my inputs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to a discussion on this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:34:31 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji,Anup ji and members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An astrologer gave me the birth details of a girl and I asked some > > > > events which have given here.Please check if her birth time need > > > > rectification or not.Also please discuss about her marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24-Oct-1975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11.20 PM(given birth time) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathura (UP),27N11,78E01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)She has not married yet.(When she will marry?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)had 2 elder brothers and 1 elder sister ...1 else brother dead > > > > (accidental death on 8-Nov-1992), then Now 1 elder brother and 1 elder > > > > sister. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Her health is not good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)She is very Intelligent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)She doesn't have good relations with her brothers and sisters and > > > > they also are not interested in her marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6)She had 3 accidents,both hand fractured in 1st and 2nd > > > > accidents,3rd accident was on Feb-Mar 1992 which her left hand fractured. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7)Her education status is :PHD economics pursuing 2nd PHD in > > > > education > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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