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Dear Sunil ji,

 

Now just think of this dictum that you gave using KAS only.

 

Guru can have

 

1) > 4 bindus

2) = 4 bindus

3) < 4 bindus.

 

Now, IN GENERAL guru is called most benefic planet BECAUSE it has been

distributed the highest numbre of SAV points of 56.

Which means it makes 56

good yogs with lagna and 7 planets. So its benefic.

 

Now IN GENERAL, Guru has mostly > 4 bindus going by the law of averages.

 

So now if a dictum states that if those with Guru in Kumbha

is and i am quoting

from what you gave as

 

" rogi ,durbhudhi

,moneyless,moorkha ( fool ),miserly ,loves to do bad

karma s and has

dental problems and stomach diseases "

 

end quote

 

then just think of Guru has less than 4 bindus.

 

Now Parasara or Varharamihira

or anyone else everyone agrees that a planet with

less than 4 bindus is weak for the house it is placed in.

 

Now, being in KARAK sthan for 4th house with less than 4 bindus will and Phal

sthan for 11th

 

1) Make one murkh (unsuccessful if interpreted that

way)

2) Miserly again that is a by product of not being successful and again its a

person who's happiness is reduced as its in KARAK sthan for 4th

3) Loves to do bad Karma as its in upchay from 6th house and in 2nd house from

10th with less than 4 bindus so malefic for 11th so again an interpretation if

I

may

4) have dental problems, so in 10th house from 2nd with less than 4 bindus.

 

So again, you can see how upchay theory is being used albeit this time with

consdering Guru as Malefic.

 

Now make this same Guru as a benefic viz-a-viz with GREATER THAN 4 bindus then?

 

Now nothing I have said above is not in line with what any of the Maharishis

have said.

 

I am just using Upchay theory and interpreting the same. Now, using this

theory, I need no remember all these special interpretation. One can use the

theory or anyone can to come to the same conclusion.

 

Now you can call this KAS theory or Theory given by our ancient seers etc etc,

that is just the name.

 

The essence is what I am interested in.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

 

,

" Sunil "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

> Dear ash

>

>

>

> Many thanks for all ur mails ,actually my net

connection is too low to

> recv signals and I was trying to reply u since

morning 10 intermittantly

> between consultation and then gone to hav some

rest .( I am using a

> mobile connection )

>

>

>

> Sure I agree with u that it is what parasara

implies and let me tell u

> my take abt KAS

>

>

>

> What I said is- it is not usual popular parasari

method which is used in

> general than it is not line with parasari

>

> In kerala we use more varahamihira

than BPHS it is due to fact that

> original parasari got lost ( means the original

text gone missing and

> only some sloka s was surviving and no body

knows is it was full text )

> tho even varahamihira

mentions abt yavan ,devala maninda parasara etc in

> his samhitas and hora

s .So we generally take what our guru s asked us

> to do it .As it is a sure path than we tread into something which is not

> sure and get burned our fingers .U know many modern schools of astrology

> wanted to try so many dasa systems and 100s of D

charts and then u can

> see none of their predictions comes true .tho

they r all as individuals

> better than me or rest of the crowd .

>

> Again KAS has diffrnt set of rules than the way

we usually discuss and

> that is why I asked shri Devi singh Ji to discuss it separately .

>

>

>

> Now coming to Kumbha sign as exaltation sign of

JUP

>

>

>

> I hav seen Varahamihira

says Jup in kumbha is akin

to it is in Kataka

> sign ,

>

> But diffrnt scholars has diffrnt

opinions and even don't know wheter

> parasara has endorsed it as Kumbha

guru can b taken as exaltation

>

> I know one shloka I think it is frm sarvartha chintamani

( may b even

> yavana hora ) that

which discuss abt Kumbha

guru

>

>

>

> ---kumathir draveenolsitha:

kripanatha niratha: krithakilbisha: Ghata

> ghate sati devapurohite

kudashanodasanodhara peeditha

>

>

>

> in short person with Guru in Kumbha is rogi ,durbhudhi

> ,moneyless,moorkha ( fool ),miserly ,loves to do

bad karma s and has

> dental problems and stomach diseases

>

>

>

> there is another one which says ----Guru Ghatasyal

gurustreegha:

>

> (means wont mind to sleep with wife of guru ) means finaly

will hav

> curse frm guru

>

>

>

> I discussed this here as I generally find this r one of the signs where

> guru in dasa need not b good which I promised

write abt guru in some

> difficult ( tricky ) places in chart and treat this as part of that

> promise .When there was a discussion which is intitiated

by Bhaskar ji

>

>

>

> Rgrds sunil nair

>

>

>

> i wanted to write separate mails and quality discussions but net is not

> cooperating

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

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