Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Deb, I can certainly relate with the last part of your statement about " . . . strongly held belief systems will override the memories and make them impossible to remember . . . " in that I was pursuing OBEs many years ago (seemingly getting very close by the lucid dreams I was having every night) and talked to my priest about it (at my wife's firm request). He put the kabash on it in no uncertain terms and then wham, no more dreams! I am now trying to rebuild. I seem to be getting there, but it's a slow process. Love your posts! Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Yes, the man calls himself the 'mad scientist'. His mind never stops. His book is completely filled with information as well as his own theory and also researched data. I've met Robert as I attended his seminar here in Cleveland in June. Great guy and speaker. He plans to have a shaman style river boat workshop for 10 days down a MT river next year. He was going to look into the price of this and see if this was going to be worth it. I would love to go, but I know it will be past my budget for sure. When I first read his book, I had to laugh when I read 'mind-split'. This is exactly what I called my experiences! Have fun reading the rest of the book Lisa ---- Deb111222 wrote: > > > > > I just finished reading the first section of " Astral Dynamics, " part one. I > thought I would paraphrase some of what I learned that I found interesting. > It helps me to remember what I read. I have to admit that I am gaining more > respect for Robert Bruce after reading this. He is obviously an intelligent > man. But it is almost like a textbook, so impossible to grasp all of it in > one reading. > > But, this is what was interesting to me: He said (and I didn't > previously understand this) that while dreaming or having an OBE, consciousness > splits (commonly known as the " mind-split. " ) He helped me to understand that > what this means is that we are conscious of being in more than one place at the > same time. I think he said that consciousness can split as many as four > times or more. > > So, there is a part of our consciousness that is keeping our bodies > alive, another part of our consciousness that can be in " real time, " which is in > between the physical dimension and the astral dimension. And consciousness > can (at the same time) also be in higher levels of the astral dimensions. > > He says that the higher levels are almost always abstract and > metaphorical. In order for the " memory " to be " downloaded " into what he calls " base > consciousness, " it has to be able to be interpreted by this same base > consciousness. In other words, it is kind of like trying to teach algebra to > someone. The more abstractions that our " base consciousness " is able to understand, > the better the memory will be comprehended. He says that this is why higher > level dreams and OBE's contain so many symbols. Because it is trying to > transfer the information to us in a language that we can understand. > > He says that the lower levels of consciousness always have a stronger > pull into our memory than the higher ones for this reason. Because they are > more easily understandable, and therefore more easily remembered. But the > higher levels are still creating " memories " every night, but are being > downloaded (most of the time) into the deep recesses of inaccessible regions of our > subconscious mind. > > Bruce believes that the best way to gain memory of these higher regions > is to disregard all strongly held belief systems and begin to see through > the eyes of a child. (Hence, the biblical term, " be as little children if you > are to enter into the kingdom of heaven. " ) > > He says that strongly held belief systems will override the memories > and make them impossible to remember. Especially, he pointed out, if those > belief systems are " contradictory " to the memories picked up in the " higher > levels. " In other words, open-mindedness is the key to being able to bring these > memories into conscious awareness. > > He said a lot more than that in over 100 pages (out of 540!), but this > is what I found most fascinating. Hmmmm. Food for thought. > > Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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