Welcome tomskinny - Hello

[Guest guest]

Hello Tom,

In my experience there is a great deal of difference between

the energies of Kundalini and that of the reiki. Many practitioners of reiki do

not know or understand the difference between the two. Much of this is due to

the mass marketing of the Kundalini and of the reiki and of the many who have

heard of the Kundalini and its power and therefore have built a bridge between

the two. Attempting to supplant one with the other. Doesn't and shouldn't work

that way.

 

Which isn't to say that Dr. Usui did not activate the Kundalini, I think he

did. it is the masses that have followed that have had to contend with egoic

distortions of what he introduced. Trying to accomplish through transference

what he accomplished with hard work and dedication towards the helpful service

to others. Reiki can be a useful tool when practiced with a clear and loving,

helpful, approach. It can open folks to the possibilities of energy work. So

that being said......

 

Reiki can help to induce the Kundalini by opening the chakras, but it is not

the Kundalini. The Kundalini has some varied and some specific symptoms. Dharma

Wayfarer, for example, has been experiencing some of the classic examples of

Kundalini infusion. Read that post.

 

As for your intention to Shaktipat others. If you are not coming from an

already awakened state then your Shaktipat will likely be more of a reiki

transference. An intentional transfer of " energy " not the Kundalini. As yours

has not matured yet into viable expressive force - yet, but can and will if you

put in the time and effort.

 

What would you do, now, if the Shaktipat you have given produced viable

Kundalini results and the persons condition turned into a nightmare? Reiki

treatments? What if that did not work? How would you help those that you have

activated? How would you cool the fire for instance? What advice do have to

offer those who are now suffering (hypothetically) from your Shaktipat? A great

responsibility comes with this force and it is not to be doled out like reiki

masterships with out some safeties to help those who may run into trouble.

Kundalini is very different Tom. It can kill if not guided correctly.

 

I hope you are not offended by the bluntness of what I write. It is no way

intended to be hurtful. I respect you and am grateful for your presence here. It

just seems like a cart before the horse scenario. Which I have been guilty of

too. Just my opinion. -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

At this point I was more concerned about providing as little information as

possible just to get started. That way, if it is possible to ask you to use

clairvoyance to evaluate me and the people I experimented on, there would be

less of a risk of influencing what you would find. At the same time I had to say

something.

 

The Six Healing Sounds exercise is a good way to cool off the organs. So is

blocking the right nostril (the solar channel) and breathing only through the

left nostril (the lunar channel) for a while. I'm fairly sure that Gopi Krishna

activated the Inda nadi by visualization, but when possible I prefer physical

methods as well. Also, it can be helpful to have many small meals during the day

rather than just the regular meal-times. I found for a while that I was having

trouble keeping much more than a few bites of most foods in my stomach and I was

throwing up a couple of times every week. My food decisions were based more on

what it was going to be like coming back up than on my usual preferences. It was

particularly at night when I was trying to sleep that I began to heat up and

started to sweat. My wife found it uncomfortable to get too close to me. The

funny thing was that from my point of view I was extremely cold and sometimes

could not stop shivering. It was a nightmare for a while, there, but even as I

was going through that my only complaint was that I wanted more. My wife almost

took me to the hospital more than once during that time, but I wasn't satisfied

with the intensity of my efforts. I knew there had to be a way to make it go

faster and with more intensity. The problem was that it was hard to sit still

because every time I tried to meditate the chills would come and even under

heavy blankets in the middle of summer I was shivering too much to hold still.

It was good for me and I was determined to make the most of it. Mint tea is

good, too, for cooling. So was eating ice cream. At least, it worked for me and

I could keep it down well enough. If all else fails and I'm trying to help

someone through the too much heat stage I can ask my Guides what to do. They

always seem to have the most to say when I'm asking for help for another person.

 

One other thing, I've decided it is much better to base my progress and the

intensity of my practice on how much bliss I can feel rather than on my

tolerance for pain. My wife is just glad that I'm not in such a bad mood so much

of the time.

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

Tue, 15 Aug 2006 7:02 PM

Re: Re: Welcome tomskinny - Hello

 

 

Hello Tom,

In my experience there is a great deal of difference between the energies of

Kundalini and that of the reiki. Many practitioners of reiki do not know or

understand the difference between the two. Much of this is due to the mass

marketing of the Kundalini and of the reiki and of the many who have heard of

the Kundalini and its power and therefore have built a bridge between the two.

Attempting to supplant one with the other. Doesn't and shouldn't work that way.

 

Which isn't to say that Dr. Usui did not activate the Kundalini, I think he did.

it is the masses that have followed that have had to contend with egoic

distortions of what he introduced. Trying to accomplish through transference

what he accomplished with hard work and dedication towards the helpful service

to others. Reiki can be a useful tool when practiced with a clear and loving,

helpful, approach. It can open folks to the possibilities of energy work. So

that being said......

 

Reiki can help to induce the Kundalini by opening the chakras, but it is not the

Kundalini. The Kundalini has some varied and some specific symptoms. Dharma

Wayfarer, for example, has been experiencing some of the classic examples of

Kundalini infusion. Read that post.

 

As for your intention to Shaktipat others. If you are not coming from an already

awakened state then your Shaktipat will likely be more of a reiki transference.

An intentional transfer of " energy " not the Kundalini. As yours has not matured

yet into viable expressive force - yet, but can and will if you put in the time

and effort.

 

What would you do, now, if the Shaktipat you have given produced viable

Kundalini results and the persons condition turned into a nightmare? Reiki

treatments? What if that did not work? How would you help those that you have

activated? How would you cool the fire for instance? What advice do have to

offer those who are now suffering (hypothetically) from your Shaktipat? A great

responsibility comes with this force and it is not to be doled out like reiki

masterships with out some safeties to help those who may run into trouble.

Kundalini is very different Tom. It can kill if not guided correctly.

 

I hope you are not offended by the bluntness of what I write. It is no way

intended to be hurtful. I respect you and am grateful for your presence here. It

just seems like a cart before the horse scenario. Which I have been guilty of

too. Just my opinion. -

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hmm ... thought I should add, my view/understanding is that Reiki is a simply a

healing practice among many others, like Qi Qong (which perhaps bears separate

discussion) ... energy transference/balancing but not dealing with root cause,

and practice of which is not a path to unfoldment/revelation/discernment of the

'Self' (let's not dance around .. enlightenment which in itself is a continuum

of unfoldment before the penultimate - hey ... is there an I who still thinks

they're doing the healing or has (s)he been relinquished and transcended , and

it is limited by the level of consciousness/attainment of the practitioner ...

'physician heal thyself' etc.

 

Metta, Alex

 

Dharma Wayfarer <dharmawayfarer wrote:

Dear Tom (and Chris),

 

I don't know if it's appropriate to interject in a dialogue like this and more

directed to Tom, but previous post(s) were referenced, so what the heck, I

thought I'd add my own caveat. In the (re)awakening (I know this is not the

first time because of the many things I have been 'shown') there is a

knowingness, among many, that the relative ease of the unfoldment of the process

this time around, is because of significant practice in previous lives. There

are persons I have met, or am aware of, who have been 'casualities' to the

premature awakening of the Kundalini, when the ego/notself was not yet

sufficiently ripened to encompass the experience, unbidden, or cultivated. There

is a lot of 'romanticism' and mistaken illusions about 'power/siddhis' which

from the unripened understanding of the 'merely labelled self at the base of the

mind' ... can take people grasping beyond their depth and capacity to sustain

what ensues. There is karma/maha responsibility omnipresent

in this field of endeavour, and how one uses it well intended or not, or

mistakenly abuses it (or has done so in past lives), is magnified to the nth

degree. Best to enter it with a deep sense of humility, not my will but thine be

done, rather than think that the " I " is qualified to do anything, until the

circuit is completed and the flow is liberated and is 'His " , not I, me mine, and

one knows that the guiding hand of the Divine as the predominant Presence in

one's life is the one who leads, not your mortal hand or wish to flex it to see

what happens.

 

Metta always.

 

Alex

 

chrism <> wrote:

Hello Tom,

In my experience there is a great deal of difference between the energies of

Kundalini and that of the reiki. Many practitioners of reiki do not know or

understand the difference between the two. Much of this is due to the mass

marketing of the Kundalini and of the reiki and of the many who have heard of

the Kundalini and its power and therefore have built a bridge between the two.

Attempting to supplant one with the other. Doesn't and shouldn't work that way.

 

Which isn't to say that Dr. Usui did not activate the Kundalini, I think he did.

it is the masses that have followed that have had to contend with egoic

distortions of what he introduced. Trying to accomplish through transference

what he accomplished with hard work and dedication towards the helpful service

to others. Reiki can be a useful tool when practiced with a clear and loving,

helpful, approach. It can open folks to the possibilities of energy work. So

that being said......

 

Reiki can help to induce the Kundalini by opening the chakras, but it is not the

Kundalini. The Kundalini has some varied and some specific symptoms. Dharma

Wayfarer, for example, has been experiencing some of the classic examples of

Kundalini infusion. Read that post.

 

As for your intention to Shaktipat others. If you are not coming from an already

awakened state then your Shaktipat will likely be more of a reiki transference.

An intentional transfer of " energy " not the Kundalini. As yours has not matured

yet into viable expressive force - yet, but can and will if you put in the time

and effort.

 

What would you do, now, if the Shaktipat you have given produced viable

Kundalini results and the persons condition turned into a nightmare? Reiki

treatments? What if that did not work? How would you help those that you have

activated? How would you cool the fire for instance? What advice do have to

offer those who are now suffering (hypothetically) from your Shaktipat? A great

responsibility comes with this force and it is not to be doled out like reiki

masterships with out some safeties to help those who may run into trouble.

Kundalini is very different Tom. It can kill if not guided correctly.

 

I hope you are not offended by the bluntness of what I write. It is no way

intended to be hurtful. I respect you and am grateful for your presence here. It

just seems like a cart before the horse scenario. Which I have been guilty of

too. Just my opinion. -

 

 

[Guest guest]

Heh! Thank God for an understanding spouse! Glad she didn't get you to the

hospital. Well Tom, did you get a chance to read the safeties? I would advise

against experimenting on others until you have had it yourself for a while, but

if you must, read up on the K syndrome.

 

Testing my clairvoyance, to see if I'm the real deal eh? The super powered,

telekinetic, melt the ice caps with my pinkie, exalted GUru. Heh! I'm just a

person. Not exceptional. I have what everyone else has. Mines awake that's all,

and yet I too have more to do. There is no end point its continuous. My gifts

are used for the benefit of another and only then. They are not on display here

unless it is necessary or are part of the program of Shaktipat or healing or

other aspects of the Kundalini awakening format that is in practice here. -

blessings to you Tom and I look forward to your input! - chrism

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes, I am testing your clairvoyance. The next step would be to ask you what I'm

wearing and what the room I'm in looks like. The kinds of experiments I did with

trying to give Shaktipat were a bit like going out at night to go swimming in a

river after a big meal and a few drinks. If I'm just risking myself, no problem.

The dumber the better and we'll see what happens. Experimenting on other people

is a different matter. We spent months getting ready and I had at least two

clairvoyants watching over us. So now I'm in the habit of checking and I was

going to get around to seeing how clairvoyant you are. In return, you are

checking to see if I have done my homework. Spiritual development has been my

only real reason to live for a long time. Not just mine, of course. I plan to

teach some day and that is my motive for better understanding Shaktipat.

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:07 PM

Re: Re: Welcome tomskinny - Hello

 

 

Heh! Thank God for an understanding spouse! Glad she didn't get you to the

hospital. Well Tom, did you get a chance to read the safeties? I would advise

against experimenting on others until you have had it yourself for a while, but

if you must, read up on the K syndrome.

 

Testing my clairvoyance, to see if I'm the real deal eh? The super powered,

telekinetic, melt the ice caps with my pinkie, exalted GUru. Heh! I'm just a

person. Not exceptional. I have what everyone else has. Mines awake that's all,

and yet I too have more to do. There is no end point its continuous. My gifts

are used for the benefit of another and only then. They are not on display here

unless it is necessary or are part of the program of Shaktipat or healing or

other aspects of the Kundalini awakening format that is in practice here. -

blessings to you Tom and I look forward to your input! - chrism

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I sense goodness in you Tom, and a desire to be of service. The underpinnings of

a strong foundation. - blessings Tom - chrism

 

TomSKinney wrote: Yes, I am testing your clairvoyance. The next

step would be to ask you what I'm wearing and what the room I'm in looks like.

The kinds of experiments I did with trying to give Shaktipat were a bit like

going out at night to go swimming in a river after a big meal and a few drinks.

If I'm just risking myself, no problem. The dumber the better and we'll see what

happens. Experimenting on other people is a different matter. We spent months

getting ready and I had at least two clairvoyants watching over us. So now I'm

in the habit of checking and I was going to get around to seeing how clairvoyant

you are. In return, you are checking to see if I have done my homework.

Spiritual development has been my only real reason to live for a long time. Not

just mine, of course. I plan to teach some day and that is my motive for better

understanding Shaktipat.

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:07 PM

Re: Re: Welcome tomskinny - Hello

 

Heh! Thank God for an understanding spouse! Glad she didn't get you to the

hospital. Well Tom, did you get a chance to read the safeties? I would advise

against experimenting on others until you have had it yourself for a while, but

if you must, read up on the K syndrome.

 

Testing my clairvoyance, to see if I'm the real deal eh? The super powered,

telekinetic, melt the ice caps with my pinkie, exalted GUru. Heh! I'm just a

person. Not exceptional. I have what everyone else has. Mines awake that's all,

and yet I too have more to do. There is no end point its continuous. My gifts

are used for the benefit of another and only then. They are not on display here

unless it is necessary or are part of the program of Shaktipat or healing or

other aspects of the Kundalini awakening format that is in practice here. -

blessings to you Tom and I look forward to your input! - chrism