Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Hello my lovely fireflies, There have been a lot of posts recently referring to the psychiatric system, which along with its embeddedness in the minds of the populace is the arch enemy of those passing through the delicate stage of handling newly awakened kundalini energies in our population. This is a problem that needs to be addressed, because it is possible that there are energy shifts occuring, or changes in the level of human evolution, that mean progressively greater numbers of people are going to " pop " . It almost seems like I just accept that we will have to deal with this system and apologise for our eccentric experiences to the " sane " majority, but in truth it is me and those others going through k awakening that are closer to the raw truth of reality, and these people need to be protected in the future, as more than likely they have something significant to contribute to society. This link is to a petition to the British government to end the abusive ways of psychiatry. Reading the comments really allowed me to come to terms with my own abuse, and to let go of the fear it imprinted on me. http://www.petitiononline.com/kissit/petition.html Love James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Signed!! Thank you, Ana James <milliondegrees wrote: Hello my lovely fireflies, There have been a lot of posts recently referring to the psychiatric system, which along with its embeddedness in the minds of the populace is the arch enemy of those passing through the delicate stage of handling newly awakened kundalini energies in our population. This is a problem that needs to be addressed, because it is possible that there are energy shifts occuring, or changes in the level of human evolution, that mean progressively greater numbers of people are going to " pop " . It almost seems like I just accept that we will have to deal with this system and apologise for our eccentric experiences to the " sane " majority, but in truth it is me and those others going through k awakening that are closer to the raw truth of reality, and these people need to be protected in the future, as more than likely they have something significant to contribute to society. This link is to a petition to the British government to end the abusive ways of psychiatry. Reading the comments really allowed me to come to terms with my own abuse, and to let go of the fear it imprinted on me. http://www.petitiononline.com/kissit/petition.html Love James Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 >>>> Japo: Reading the comments really allowed me to come to terms with my own abuse, and to let go of the fear it imprinted on me. <<<< Japo, I have also wanted to comment on this thread. First, I would like to say that when I read of your experiences in the psychiatric ward, I was horrified. And at the same time, I admire your strength, respect your wisdom, and honor your dignified manner in handling it. It seems to have brought out a Christ-like essence in you. Your story magnifies my belief that the deeper one falls into a hellish-type experience, the higher one can rise above it to capture a more serene, divine demeanor. I have used the metaphor before that the harder a bouncing ball hits the pavement, the higher it will go. Not saying that one has to go through hell to experience heaven, but it does seem to me that those who have develop a more meaningful appreciation of even the simplest of pleasures. Which seems to be a common thread of those experiencing K " symptoms. " Kind of like the pressure has built up, and exploded through the " mold " of some sort of physical veil of forgetfulness. I studied psychology in school, and find that all of the theories have some useful information, which would make me have more of an " eclectic " approach - making use of all theories. They taught us about " paradigms, " which are " schools of thought, " which can fall to the wasteside when a newer and better " paradigm " emerges. Obviously, there are new paradigms yet to be discovered. Someone in that field needs to " think outside of the box " and recognize that the subconscious realm is being consciously " remembered " by more and more people every day. And that doesn't make one " crazy, " but instead " awakened " to a whole other realm of reality. It would do the medical community good to embrace this possibility and spin off a new paradigm, as such. I'm sure there are some in this field who are open to this - but it needs to " hit the books. " The DSM-R-V Diagnostic Manual would be a good start! We can always hope. I believe the time is coming near. Best wishes to you. Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Hey Deb, Thanks for your kind reply. I'm still learning about myself and the experience, and I hope to grow stronger everyday. Sometimes I still automatically find myself telling myself things like " I'm the worst person in the world " or that I am a bad person or have no power because of the experience, but I know in time this will change so thank you for your kind words. I definitely felt a strong connection to being " Christ-like " when this happened, maybe because Christ is an obvious cultural figure with awakened K. Also, when I broke my back and my arms it was somewhat like being crucified!!! Thanks again for your response - Japo x , Deb111222 wrote: > > > >>>> Japo: > Reading the comments really allowed me > to come to terms with my own abuse, and to let go of the fear it > imprinted on me. <<<< > > > Japo, I have also wanted to comment on this thread. First, I would > like to say that when I read of your experiences in the psychiatric ward, I was > horrified. And at the same time, I admire your strength, respect your > wisdom, and honor your dignified manner in handling it. > > It seems to have brought out a Christ-like essence in you. Your story > magnifies my belief that the deeper one falls into a hellish-type experience, > the higher one can rise above it to capture a more serene, divine demeanor. > I have used the metaphor before that the harder a bouncing ball hits the > pavement, the higher it will go. > > Not saying that one has to go through hell to experience heaven, but it > does seem to me that those who have develop a more meaningful appreciation > of even the simplest of pleasures. Which seems to be a common thread of those > experiencing K " symptoms. " Kind of like the pressure has built up, and > exploded through the " mold " of some sort of physical veil of forgetfulness. > > I studied psychology in school, and find that all of the theories have > some useful information, which would make me have more of an " eclectic " > approach - making use of all theories. They taught us about " paradigms, " which > are " schools of thought, " which can fall to the wasteside when a newer and > better " paradigm " emerges. Obviously, there are new paradigms yet to be > discovered. Someone in that field needs to " think outside of the box " and recognize > that the subconscious realm is being consciously " remembered " by more and > more people every day. And that doesn't make one " crazy, " but instead > " awakened " to a whole other realm of reality. It would do the medical community good > to embrace this possibility and spin off a new paradigm, as such. I'm sure > there are some in this field who are open to this - but it needs to " hit the > books. " The DSM-R-V Diagnostic Manual would be a good start! We can always > hope. I believe the time is coming near. > > Best wishes to you. > > Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 >>>>> Japo: I'm still learning about myself and the experience, and I hope to grow stronger everyday. Sometimes I still automatically find myself telling myself things like " I'm the worst person in the world " or that I am a bad person or have no power because of the experience, but I know in time this will change so thank you for your kind words. <<<< I think the truth is that you have much more power because of the experience, but I understand what you mean. Those painful emotions can play hell with us long after the fact, even if we tell ourselves all the right things - because we have to come to believe those things, and that is easier said than done. A person cannot go through what you went through and be the same person. So, forget about whatever it is that you are beating yourself up over that happened before. That was " you-then " and this is " you- now. " And the truth is, no matter what happened, the price that you paid was unjust. Have you ever seen that movie, " The Shawshank Redemption? " Where Tim Robinson played the part of a banker who was unjustly accused of killing his wife. He went through all kinds of hell in prison and when he finally escaped, he told his fellow inmate, played by Morgan Freeman, " I have paid for every mistake I have ever made in my life, many times over. I deserve to be free. I have paid my dues. " That is you, Japo. You have paid your dues, and then some. You have escaped and now you are free. The only thing that can hold you hostage now are emotional chains. Let them go and feel the freedom. Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Thanks Deb I am so grateful for your reply, thank you its really lovely of you. I loved that film soooo much!! When he digs himself out with like a screwdriver or something... You are so right, I am just not who I was, and I need to let go of both the trauma and the person I was before, and the person I would have been if it hadnt happened. Ultimately its more important that I " popped " and woke up, however painful the experience. It was unjust, but then again we live in a world where we have (some) justice. Many people do not have justice, and neither to many beings in the ocean of life, many animals, many beings in hell, many who are ignorant. I guess I really need to key into who I am now... A spiritual person, eccentric and prone to " strange words, extraordinary behaviour " but at the same time, more sane than most in my own way. I want to write more but I just did like 2 hours of qigong and its 3am Im knackered. Part of my problem is I dont give myself space to heal, I keep pushing myself with my degree and think incessantly about trying to save the world... I'm learning to step back a bit, do some loosening exercises, get some girls and actually take time to breathe and process this crazy ride I've been on, and ultimately give massive thanks that I have this higher consciousness, cos its grace, something bigger than our limited illusion of being a separate entity, and there's no way that limited entity could ever repay the world... Only by loving it with all our heart. Love Japo , " Deb " <Deb111222 wrote: > > > >>>>> Japo: > I'm still learning about myself and the experience, and I hope to > grow stronger everyday. Sometimes I still automatically find myself > telling myself things like " I'm the worst person in the world " or > that I am a bad person or have no power because of the experience, > but I know in time this will change so thank you for your kind > words. <<<< > > > I think the truth is that you have much more power because of the > experience, but I understand what you mean. Those painful emotions can > play hell with us long after the fact, even if we tell ourselves all > the right things - because we have to come to believe those things, and > that is easier said than done. > > A person cannot go through what you went through and be the same > person. So, forget about whatever it is that you are beating yourself > up over that happened before. That was " you-then " and this is " you- > now. " And the truth is, no matter what happened, the price that you > paid was unjust. > > Have you ever seen that movie, " The Shawshank Redemption? " Where > Tim Robinson played the part of a banker who was unjustly accused of > killing his wife. He went through all kinds of hell in prison and when > he finally escaped, he told his fellow inmate, played by Morgan > Freeman, " I have paid for every mistake I have ever made in my life, > many times over. I deserve to be free. I have paid my dues. " > > That is you, Japo. You have paid your dues, and then some. You > have escaped and now you are free. The only thing that can hold you > hostage now are emotional chains. Let them go and feel the freedom. > > Deb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Hey Japo - that was one of my favorite movies, too! A lot of the things I said to you, I also needed to say to myself, so thank you for bringing that out in me! I think I needed to hear it, myself. But seriously, I think you are doing great. And yes, we both need to take time to just breathe. Great idea you had! Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Cheers Deb, you're alright. Thanks for the discussion. I'm in the middle of a take away 24hour exam paper on developmental biology. Its 4am and I'm writing about the joys of homeotic transcription factors in drosophila embryos. I love being a student! Its all about the navel centre isnt it? I'm getting more K up to there now and its really making me feel very strong and grounded. So much work to do... so many levels... Peace n love x x x , Deb111222 wrote: > > > > Hey Japo - that was one of my favorite movies, too! A lot of the things I > said to you, I also needed to say to myself, so thank you for bringing that > out in me! I think I needed to hear it, myself. > > But seriously, I think you are doing great. And yes, we both need to > take time to just breathe. Great idea you had! > > Deb > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 >>>>> Japo: Cheers Deb, you're alright. Thanks for the discussion. I'm in the middle of a take away 24hour exam paper on developmental biology. Its 4am and I'm writing about the joys of homeotic transcription factors in drosophila embryos. I love being a student! Its all about the navel centre isnt it? I'm getting more K up to there now and its really making me feel very strong and grounded. So much work to do... so many levels... <<<<< I loved being a student also, Japo! Something else we have in common! Best of luck with all of your studies. I definitely understand what hard work that can be. (Pat on the back for you!) More interesting discussions to come, I'm sure! And - just wanted to let you know that I started back with the 5 Tibetans today and I am so glad. Would love to be included in that shaktiput energy you are sending out next. I feel like I am finally coming to terms with some old issues that were causing me some difficulties and letting go of some old fears and feeling better. And, they started laying brick on our house today and it is coming out beautiful and that really boosted my mood quite a bit! (I know, I know - that is an ego thing.) But, it cheered me up, nevertheless. I will feel so much more peaceful there, which must be a good thing. This apartment is so dreary. (But, better than a FEMA trailer, for sure.) Just getting excited about having the house to look forward to (probably November) and allowing myself to enjoy the feeling. Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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