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Thank you James. I'll look into this guy--I'm in Madison, WI--but maybe I can

work something out.

 

Blessings to you,

Ana

 

James <milliondegrees wrote: Hey

Ana

If I could sum up my experience it would be a big crazy scream.

Actually I have done some reading around and I think I have been

suffering from post traumatic stress due to the " treatment " .

It is very scary indeed when we muddy the waters between behaviour

and health... As you say, behaviour is to do with culture!! My

experience was akin to torture.

For masters in parapsychology, look at Motoyama and cihs in

california. I am seriously attracted to the " life physics " program.

He has done lots of work on kundalini and TCM.

Lots of love to you, if we can go through these terrible abuses and

still reach enlightenment then there is hope for the world!

Bless James

 

-- In , Anastasia Allan

<hosebunny815 wrote:

>

> James,

>

> Wow. I cannot believe that they were actually legally allowed to

do this to you in that psych ward! I myself have had pretty bad

experiences in them as I was a teenager in the 80's and the popular

thing for frazzled parents in the US to do back then was to lock

their kids away in these places (along with a bogus diagnosis and

unneccessary medications) for as long as the insurance would cover

it.

>

> I know this is negative, but I pretty much have a hatred for the

medical and consequent psychiatric establishment. This has prompted

me to get my undergrad degree (and Master's as we speak) in the

field of Psychology in order to " understand the enemy " more, and

perhaps (who knows?) contribute to some changes... As far as I

understand it, " sanity " or " normalcy " is entirely culturally defined

anyway--so who's to say really what is " normal " ?

>

> I'd love to get a degree in Parapsychology, but cannot seem to

find a college or university that offers one.

>

> Anyway, thank you for sharing that. It allowed me to talk about

something I had been ashamed to speak about before.

>

> Blessings to you and stay sane (lol, just kidding),

> Ana

> James <milliondegrees wrote:

No way!

> A really similar thing happened to me... In fact I remember

having a

> very similar conversation about stuff! You, me, this table, we're

> all made of the same stuff. I also started to realise the fact

that

> we, including all matter such as stars and planets, are one

thing.

> Anyway, psychiatry took me on a trip to hell, I am only just

getting

> over it, I think it has given me some kind of post traumatic

stress!

> now I am learning to release the fear and anger, it didnt help

that

> I broke my back and arms trying to escape from a top window after

> being held down by force and drugs forced in my mouth, which I

> wouldnt swallow, so they opened my mouth with their fingers to

get

> the pills from where I was trying to hide them underneath my

teeth

> and forced them down my throat. Terrifying experience. A guy I

know

> who was stuck in there for years killed himself last year by

jumping

> infront of a train. I went to primary (elementary) school with

him.

> He was sexually abused by a catholic priest, then got into drugs

and

> ended up in psych wards. It ruined him. I know that the only

thing

> that got me through it was refusing medication at all

> opportunities... as it makes you dependent, means you are under

> control of the whole system, and also changes your brain... not

what

> the K needs. I also felt that I had very bad energy while on

these

> drugs. So, my advice, dont take meds, but find an outlet for

> your " eccentricity " , be it artistic or exercise, or whatever

feels

> appropriate. I also had the same dettaching from smoking, alcohol

> and started eating healthy food... whats this infront of me? A

plate

> of stewed pumpkins and millet? Yum!

> So yeah, I dunno maybe the psych system is different where u are

to

> here in the UK, and it sounds like you had a less choppy ride

> anyway, remember to focus on love, nourishment, healing and

patience

> and not fear and anger, pour love into all the relationships u

> already have, including yourself, and don't listen to

psychiatrists!

> Who knows, what we are going through might actually become a lot

> more common in the coming decades or centuries, at some point the

> mainstream will become aware and stop sending us to psych wards!

> Stay free, and be lucky on your journey.. JApo

>

> , Jessi Dehne

> <jdehne88@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello. My name is Jessi and I am 19 years old. I just signed

up

> for

> > this group, and have found it very helpful and comforting. I

> recently

> > experienced what I believe to be an " awakening " , but a few

sites

> told

> > me to be careful when self diagnosing. I was wondering if

anyone

> has

> > had similar experiences. So here's the story: I started

changing

> > habits for no apparent reason. I started eating healthier,

> stopped

> > smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol, and taking more time

to

> do

> > just about everything. I just felt like I had no use for

these

> habits

> > anymore. Sleeping was becoming more difficult each night.

About

> two

> > weeks after " turning a new leaf " , I was having a conversation

> with a

> > friend about how we are all one, and how we're all made of the

> same

> > " stuff " . (I've believed in the power of words for quite some

time

> > now, but my experiences had never been this intense.) After

> > contemplating and conversing for twenty minutes or so, I felt a

> > tickling sensation travel up my spine. I said to my

> friend, " whoa,

> > that was weird. " The initial feeling was an intense bliss.

Then

> it

> > literally felt like my soul was leaving my body and perhaps

that

> I was

> > losing my mind, so I began to get very anxious. My heart

began to

> > race, my fingers went cold, and I began trembling. I didn't

feel

> > " real " , or " real " as I had experienced prior to this. I

watched

> > myself tap my arm with my fingers, but couldn't feel it. My

> friend

> > new something was up and asked if I wanted to go outside and

get

> some

> > fresh air. I agreed, and he tried talking me back " down to

> earth " .

> > Everything seemed to look different, and although he was

trying as

> > best he could to help, a part of me didn't want him to. He

was

> saying

> > that it would be okay, but I " knew " beyond any doubt, that he

> didn't

> > believe what he was saying. It took about forty-five minutes

to

> talk

> > me down, but was able to fall asleep later that evening.

> > The next morning, I started reading Tao Te Ching on the

> internet,

> > and the same feelings started to come again. I asked to be

taken

> to

> > the hospital, and knew I wouldn't be able to drive myself so I

> got a

> > ride. While in the emergency room, I was having extreme mood

> swings;

> > laughing one minute, crying the next. I felt my deceased

> grandmothers

> > presence around me. They ended up sending me to the psych

ward

> and

> > later I was diagnosed with bi-polar with psychotic tendencies.

> > Psychology is just one way of looking at the human experience,

> and I

> > don't feel it does spirituality much justice. I believe that

what

> > happened to me was spiritual in nature, and don't feel the

need to

> > take the medication prescribed. I have found some of my own

ways

> to

> > keep me grounded and more balanced. I've been out now for two

> weeks,

> > and more is revealed to me each day. I'm not anxious now

about

> what

> > is happening to me; I feel I'm exactly where I need to be. Any

> > comments would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > ~Jessi

> >

> >

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